Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the BRP Inc. Q2 Fiscal Year 2019 Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Philippe Deschenes.
Please go ahead, Mr. Deschenes.
Thank you, Elena. Good morning, and welcome to BRP's conference call for the Q2 of fiscal year 2019. Joining me on the call this morning are Jose Bojoli, President and Chief Executive Officer and Sebastien Martel, Chief Financial Officer.
Before we move
to the prepared remarks, I would like to remind everyone that certain forward looking statements will be made during the call that are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. I invite you to read BRP's MD and A for listing of these. Also during the call, reference will be made to supporting slides and you can find the presentation on our website at brp.com under the Investor Relations section. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jose.
Thank you, Philippe. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm happy to report that we continued our positive momentum into this quarter as we once again delivered solid results and our best Q2 ever. The demand for all our product lines remained robust, driving retail sales growth that continue to outpace our industry around the world. We also achieved significant milestone on projects that will allow us to sustain our growth trajectory in the future, notably by completing 2 acquisitions and the creation of the New Marine Group.
Through it all, our team continues strong execution by increasing production capacity in our site and are getting up for new product launches at our upcoming dealer meeting. Our result came in ahead of our expectation for the quarter and given the positive momentum we are experiencing the good visibility we have on the back half of the year, we are comfortable increasing our guidance for the end of the year with normalized EPS growth of 30% to 35%. Now let's turn to the financial highlights of the quarter on Slide 4. Our revenue reached a record level for our 2nd quarter at $1,207,000,000 representing a year over year growth of 18%, driven by the continued strong demand for our side by side and personal watercraft lineups. Our gross profit margins were up 2 10 basis points leading to a 72% increase in normalized EBITDA, which reached $144,000,000 and a 2 30% increase in normalized earnings per share that ended at $0.66 Our retail sales growth was also impressive.
In North America, the retail pace picked up starting in May and continue for all the quarter after a difficult month of April due to unfavorable weather as you remember. Our powersport product retail grew 16% in an industry that was up high single digit in the quarter. We outpaced all our sectors as our Can Am Off Road and Seadoo lineups continue to drive strong consumer demand and has the retail of the Can Am Spyder picked up after a slow start of the season. Our retail momentum was also strong around the world, mainly driven by our Can Am side by side and Sea Doo personal watercraft, which are gaining traction in all our major markets. Our powersports products are also performing well and outpaced the industry in all regions with retail up 13% in Latin America, 11% in EMEA and 21% in Asia Pacific.
As you are aware by the sheer amount of activity and other sectors that has seen healthy growth over the last few years is the marine industry. To reinforce our present intent in that industry and leverage our Evinrude asset, we announced earlier this summer the creation of the Marine Group. Our objective is clear to become a leading global marine company. And our strategy to achieve that objective is buy, build and transform. Concretely, we want to create a global marine business through acquisition to reach a critical mass, allowing us to accelerate our presence and be a significant player in the industry.
We'll then drive growth and efficiency by optimizing the dealer network, driving conversion to Evinrude engine, capitalizing on shared opportunity between brands and leveraging each brand know how and expertise. And based on our recognized approach to innovation and design expertise, we believe that we will we have the ability to transform the industry and to do for the marine business what we have done for the power of sport business. As a first step toward achieving our objective, we completed this summer 2 boat company acquisition. 1st, with the acquisition of Alumacraft, a premier manufacturer of aluminum fishing boat and secondly, with the well known Manitou Pontoon Company in Q3. These acquisitions allow us to enter the aluminum all around fishing and pontoon segments, which are the 2 fastest growing segments and represent over 50% of the U.
S. Boat industry. Entering the boating industry is a natural next step for us and it represents many opportunities in terms of leveraging the network of 275 Alumacraft dealers, 150 Manitou dealers and over 1,000 Evinrude dealers in North America. We are pleased to welcome these 2 company and their 400 employees to the BRP family. They provide us, along with Evinrude strong foundation on which to build our Marine Group.
Now quickly before moving to the review by product category, the creation of the Marine Group requires adjustment relating to our segment reporting. This will result in some slight changes to the product category for which we report revenue. Year round product and seasonal product will remain as is. However, the propulsion system and pack category will change and will now be the powersport pack and OEM engines category, which will include pack revenue for year round and seasonal product as well as OEM engine for cart, motorcycle and recreational aircraft and the marine engine both and related packs. Now let's turn Slide 10 for year round product highlight.
Revenue were up 26% for the quarter, driven by a higher volume and favorable product mix of side by side. On the retail side, both Can Am side by side and ETV ended their 2018 season on a strong note. For side by side, the North American industry completed its 2018 season on June 30, with retail up high single digit percentage. For the same period, Can Am side by side retail was up in the mid-thirty percent gaining market share in both the Utility and Sports segments. We are seeing solid growth across the lineup and the popularity of our specialized models such as the Defender Lone Star, the Mavic X3 Rockcrawler and our moderate day Mavic X3 and Defender is helping us deliver superior profitability for us and our dealers.
Our side by side business also continued to grow rapidly in international market with retail sales in Western Europe, Latin America and Asia Pacific region all growing above 25% in the quarter. Turning to ATV. The North American ATV industry also ended its 2018 season on June 30, with retail down low single digit. For the same period, Can Ami TV is up mid single digit and ended the season with the number 3 market share position in the North American market, a first for the Can Am ATV. Now looking at Fighter.
9 months into the 2018 season, the North American 3 wheeled industry is down high single digit percentage impacted early into the season by unfavorable weather. Can Am Spyder Retail was also down high single digit over the same period as retail picked up in the 2nd quarter with a growth in the low teen percent. Turning to seasonal product on Slide 11. Seasonal product revenue were up 21%, driven by a higher volume and a favorable mix of personal watercraft sold as well as a favorable mix of snowmobile sold. Looking at retail sales for personal watercraft 10 months into the season, the North American Industry Retail is up high single digit percentage.
Sea Doo Retail is up low teen percent over the same period, notably achieving strong market share gains in the higher end segment of the industry, driven by the success of the new platform and its multiple innovative new feature such as betterizing handling and the ease of use of our accessories and the popular new audio system. While Sidu growth in North America is solid, the growth in the rest of the world is even more impressive with quarterly retail growing over 25% in EMEA and Asia Pacific region and over 60% in Latin America. Continuing with a quick look at the 2 new revenue reporting category. Starting with the powersports PAC and OEM Engine category, revenues were up 3% in the quarter as the continued growth of our accessories sales notably for side by side and personal watercraft was partially offset by a lower volume of motorcycle engines sold due to the conclusion of the supply agreement with BMW. Revenue for the marine engine, boat and pack category were about flat in the quarter compared to last year as a slight decline in outboard engine volume was offset by 1 month of Alumacraft revenue following its acquisition.
Looking at retail sales, the North American outboard engine industry completed its 2018 season on June 30, up mid single digit and with Evinrude retail down low single digit. And with that, I will turn the call over to Sebastien and will return for closing remarks.
You, Jose, and good morning, everyone. Our momentum continued in the Q2 as we delivered solid results that came in ahead of our expectations. Revenue reached $1,207,000,000 for the quarter, up 18% over last year. We saw growth in all regions driven by year round products, seasonal products and our powersport pack and OEM engines category. Our gross profit margin was up 2 10 basis points and reached 23.2% driven by favorable volume and product mix primarily coming from our snowmobile, personal watercraft and Can Am SSV lineups and favorable pricing.
These elements were partly offset by higher production and distribution costs. Normalized EBITDA was up 72% to $144,000,000 and the normalized EPS reached $0.66 We generated $64,000,000 of free cash flow and invested $53,000,000 on CapEx. We also completed the Alumacraft acquisition in the quarter for a total consideration net of cash acquired of $80,000,000 The Manitou acquisition which closed this week will be reported in our Q3 results. These acquisitions were done with cash on hand and using our revolving credit facility. Turning to slide 15, our normalized net income grew $43,000,000 in the quarter resulting from a net favorable impact of volume mix pricing and sales programs for $73,000,000 and a favorable foreign exchange rate impact of $12,000,000 partly offset by higher production, distribution and depreciation expense for $15,000,000 higher operating expenses for $15,000,000 as we continue building our brand awareness through marketing efforts and higher normalized financing costs and normalized income tax expense for $12,000,000 Now moving to the network inventory position on slide 16.
Our network inventory is up 7% over last year's Q2 level, resulting from the increase in inventory of our Can Am SSV and PWC lineups to support continued growth in consumer demand. Partly offsetting these elements was a reduction in snowmobile network inventory resulting from the good end of season we had last winter. Our network inventory position is very healthy for all product lines. And finally turning to Slide 17 for an update fiscal year 2019 guidance. Before getting into the numbers, as Jose mentioned earlier, the creation of the Marine Group has resulted in some adjustments to our segment reporting and we have adjusted our guidance to reflect these changes.
All in all, the basis for the guidance remains unchanged with the exception of the modification of 2 product categories. Starting with this quarter and going forward, we will provide guidance on 2 new product categories, powersports packs and OEM engines and marine engines, boats and packs, and we will cease providing guidance on propulsion systems and pack product categories. The basis for all other metrics on which we are guiding remains unchanged. And now on with the numbers. In light of a better than planned results we have achieved so far this year, the continued strong momentum with our side by side business supported by the additional capacity at Juarez II plant, the sustained and robust worldwide demand for personal watercraft given the good retail season we are having, the improved outlook for the upcoming snowmobile season and the acquisition of the Alumacraft and the Manitou boat companies, we are increasing our revenue guidance for year round products to up 18% 21% and for our seasonal products guidance to up 9% to 12%.
Our initial guidance for powersport pack and OEM engine starts with a range of up 3% to 7% with the underlying assumption in growth in PAC partly offset by the reduction in volume of motorcycle engines sold to BMW. And our initial guidance for marine engines, boat and pack is a range of up 15% to 20% with the bulk of the growth resulting from the addition of the boat businesses we have acquired. Our total company revenues are now expected to grow 12% to 16% with 2% of that growth coming from the 2 Boat Company acquisition. The total company revenue also includes a 2% increase versus our previous guidance coming from favorable foreign exchange rates. Our normalized EBITDA growth has been reviewed upward by 3% and is now expected to be up 20% to 22% and our normalized EPS now expected to grow 30% to 35%.
The strong momentum we have is allowing us to increase for the year despite the continued headwinds coming from inflationary pressures notably related to commodities, tariffs and freight costs. These elements represent a negative impact of $20,000,000 versus our initial guidance that we provided in March and a negative impact of 5 versus our updated guidance we shared with you in May. Based on current trends, we expect that the continued inflationary pressures could impact next year by an additional $25,000,000 over this year. As for the Boat Company acquisitions, their impact on our bottom line is expected to be limited this year given their 3rd and 4th quarters are typically softer in terms of profitability due to the timing of boat deliveries, which are usually more concentrated in the first half of the year. On a full year basis, their impact in terms of normalized EPS is estimated at about $0.10 Finally, a quick word on our expectations for the back half of the year.
We expect the 3rd quarter normalized EBITDA to come in similar to last year as a better mix of products sold is expected to be offset by higher operating expenses and our lower volume of snowmobiles sold due to the timing of production which will shift some deliveries to the Q4. This implies that all of the H2 normalized EBITDA growth is expected to be generated in the 4th quarter driven by the continued strength across the business and by the shift of some snowmobile shipments from Q3 to Q4. That being said, visibility on the back half of the year and are confident in our ability to deliver on our guidance. With this, I'll turn the call back to Jose. Thank you, Sebastien.
Before I conclude my remarks for this quarter, allow me to take a few moments to share with you an update on our 2020 challenge. You will remember that we've launched 3 key objectives for the organization in April 2015 with a focus on growth, agility and being a lean enterprise. These were intended to get us to our objective to delivering $3.50 in normalized EPS by fiscal year 2021. We have been pleased with the progress we have experienced to date on almost every level. We have more than doubled our side by side retail volume since 2015 with 6 new platform introduced over the past 3 years.
Our ATV market share has made it to the top 3 in North America during that period. Our personal watercraft and snowmobile market share have reached record levels. We have developed a value proposition for dealer engagement that is the best in the industry. We have returned over 900,000,000 in capital to shareholders through share repurchase and dividend. And as you are aware, our Marine strategy is now launched with the acquisition of 2 Boat Company and the creation of the New Marine Group.
All of these accomplishments have been made possible by our dedicated workforce around the world and our focus on our strategic initiative. Despite the current geopolitical and economic climate and resulting headwinds such as commodity, tariff impact and freight cost, our strong momentum should allow us to achieve our objective to deliver at least $3.50 of normalized EPS in fiscal year 2020, 1 year earlier than initially planned. As for Q2, it is clear that we have been on a positive trend. There are a few highlights I believe worth sharing. Our latest results show strong retail momentum in most sector and markets.
The team is growing is showing great progress in improving the capacity at the Uara H2 plant, which will be operational in H1 fiscal year 2020. The introduction of the new side by side model has been positively received by dealers and consumers. The creation of the Marine Group will lead us into new opportunities and help to unlock Evinrude's full potential. We are increasing our guidance for fiscal year 2019 as Sebastien remarked. And finally, as I just mentioned, we are on the right path to deliver the 2020 objective 1 year in advance and have no plan to stop there.
All in all, we are very pleased with this quarter, but are taking nothing for granted. We continue steadily in our plan with the same strategic focus to continue to deliver the best result possible both for our customers and for our shareholders. To conclude, we have a lot of good news to share with you at our upcoming BRP club. I look forward to seeing many of you there on September 9 10 in Denver, Colorado. On that note, I will turn the call over to the operator for questions.
Thank The first question is from Robin Farley with UBS. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks. I wonder if you could put some more granularity around where you think Evinrude's sales growth can go with the new marine strategy? And then also, any sort of broad outlines about your market share targets in marine? And at this point, will you grow?
Are you looking to do more acquisitions or just sort of organic and synergy growth from here with these recent acquisitions? Thanks.
Good morning, Robin. First, we have a long term plan and our acquisition strategy is about buy, build and transform. And I will say the buy and build and like you saw on the slide that we just presented, there is a lot of opportunities when you look only at the dealer network of Alumacraft and Manitou and The Evenrode in North America. Then today, if I look, Alumacraft is about high single digit market share of the aluminum fishing boat and Manitou is low single digit market share, then obviously those 2 brands is offering us a good base to grow market share, but again, it's a long term play. And on top of it, you're adding the dealer network optimization between the Evinrude and Luma Carafe menu to dealer network, the conversion to Evinrude, then there is a lot of opportunity and that's why we invested in those product categories.
But it's too early for us to give you some color on the long term plan is something that we'll do in the coming months.
And is the thought that you're still looking to roll up other brands out there in marine?
I mean, we there is many, many company for sales in the world and obviously we're still looking, but we are very happy with those first two acquisitions. The quality of the brand, Alumacraft, I've been there 70 years, many too for a long time. The quality of the brand, the quality of the product is offering us a good base then. Obviously, we're still looking at maybe acquiring more company, but it needs to meet our criteria in terms of quality and brand.
Okay, great. Thank you. And then if I could just squeeze in one quick one on the ORV market. It sounds like July ORV sales accelerated from sort of April, May, June levels. Has that continued through August so far?
Momentum, obviously the fall is always a bit influenced by program. I would say this year on off road, the program are slightly less than last year, but the momentum of the industry and our momentum is continuing.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from Gerrick Johnson with BMO Capital. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. I have a couple here. Of the 3 new platforms that you've used to attack the white space out there in the side by side market, the Defender, X3 and the Trail. Can you talk about where you are right now in dealer penetration for each sort of like Defender say you're 3 quarters of the way there or something in that context? And then also in the Marine segment, will you be showing us the intercompany sales of Evinrude to the boat group?
Thank you.
I will take the first one, Geraint and Sebastien will take the second one. On the side by side segment, obviously, we're very aggressive on the sport category with the X3, the Maverick Trail and now with the Maverick Sport. And we're filling a lot of space into the sports segment of the industry. The Defender, the utility is new for us. We're very happy with the momentum of the Defender retail quarter after quarter.
We see our numbers in unit growing, but there is also more thing we can do in that segment as long as we continue to penetrate that segment. This is totally new for us. It's new for many of our dealers and us, and there is more opportunity there than in the sports segment in terms of continuing growing.
On your second question, Garik, the way we do the reporting, we'll have 2 segments. We'll have the power Sports segment and you'll see that in our notes for the financial statements and we'll also have a Marine segment. So within that Marine segment, you will have the selling of the engines and the selling of the boats. And so there's no intercompany profit elimination that's going to be happening there or sales elimination. However, our objective is to increase penetration within Alumacraft and within Manitou and occasionally we'll be updating you guys on how that conversion is going.
Manitou today has about 40% of attachment rate of Evinrude engines and the Luma Craft is below 10%. And so we'll be obviously updating you occasionally on this.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from Greg Badishkanian with Citi. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. It's actually Fred Wightman on for Greg. So I understand there are still a lot of moving parts, but could you maybe just share some higher level thoughts on the trade negotiations that are going on today as far as NAFTA, Canada and Mexico? And what that could mean for you guys going forward?
Yes. Obviously, it's been a recurring topic as you know and this week has been a very active week on the trade front, which is positive because things are moving ahead and it's removing ambiguity. NAFTA still stands today, as you all know. However, what was tabled earlier this week Monday was an agreement between or Tuesday was an agreement between U. S.
And Mexico. So it's a bilateral agreement, very focused on the auto industry. And so when you look at the powersport industry, which product categories fall under what was announced earlier this week, it's the ATV product line which is being impacted. They've also indicated that regional value content or RVC would increase and depending on the component or the part from 65% to 75%. Today ATVs, in order for them to be NAFTA compliant, they need to have 62.5% of the parts of NAFTA origin.
And so that increases the level of compliance. So the teams will be doing assessments once the final regulations are out as to what the action business, the transaction value between Mexico and U. S. Is a little over $200,000,000 And so if you're not in compliance, and again, I'm not saying that that is our intention, but we'll refine our plans. If you're not in compliance, the total penalty would be in excess of $5,000,000 So it's obviously something we can manage through.
But we'll also look to minimize that impact either through more Asian sourcing strategy, which will compensate any penalties we might have. Great. That's really helpful.
And then I think you guys had mentioned $25,000,000 in cost headwinds that you were expecting or potentially looking at for next year. Can you just talk a little bit about what's baked into that number? Is it really just changes in commodities? Or is there some other stuff that you're including there?
Yes. The 2 big there's 3 elements, but the 2 big ones are commodities, which accounts for almost 60% of that amount. And the other one is freight. I mean, we've seen freight costs increase significantly this year. For truckers is high.
Demand for flatbeds for closed boxes as well is high. And that puts a pressure on all of the industry and all of the trucking industry. And that's another element which we factor. And yes, the other component which is minor is tariffs. Not extremely significant, but still impacting our business.
And so that's built into that $25,000,000
Great. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from Mark Petrie with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Just wanted to come back to the Marine division and I wonder if you could just sort of comment about the industry at large. Obviously, it's had some nice growth over the last number of years, sort of rebounding from a tough period following the financial crisis. But could you just talk about sort of the performance over the course of time? And then any comment about the used inventory today and how you're sort of thinking about that?
Good morning, Marc. Obviously, we're not specialists yet on those product category. And you might find that funny, but Luma Crafts is building a lot of small boats that are sold without engine and we need to be fine with them with the management what we consider power boat and not power boat. But just to give you a sense for the U. S.
Market, pontoon and aluminum fishing represent about 60% of industry in U. S. Of about 175,000 units. Then we entering with those 2 brands in a big portion of the industry. Our reading for H1 for the industry and our 2 brands is the industry and the 2 brand have raised about mid single digit.
Then the industry is very healthy. It had a very, very good momentum in the last few years. Q1 was a bit affected by also the bad weather in April, but it turned pretty good in the Q2. But overall, very happy with those acquisition because it's a big market. Like Sebastien mentioned, Adumakalev is rigged with about 10% only of even road engine and Manitou about 40, then there is a lot of leeway to grow market share, but also to increase the even road conversion going forward.
Okay, thanks. And could you just comment about sort of the evolution of used inventory in the industry and how important that is an element in terms of expectations for industry health and sort of growth going forward?
Yes. Maybe I'll comment, Marc. Obviously, the industry was very focused on used probably 10 years ago out of the recession, but the trend that we're seeing is new boat sales are up positively and that trend has been continuing. And the increase in the overall watercraft. So yes, there's a used boat market out there like any industry, but the demand for new boats is there and we don't see it stopping in the short term.
And that's why for us an acquisition in the boat industry was logical. Got it. Thanks. And Q2, in
terms of sort of contribution to the total annual EBITDA, Q2 in terms of sort of contribution to the total annual EBITDA looks like it's substantially higher than what you guys have delivered in years past. How much of that is sort of the change in accounting impact, the IFRS 15% to 9% and how much is just sort of a change in your business? And just how should we sort of think about that, I guess?
Well, the first thing, the number under IFRS 15 change in accounting last year numbers are restated as well. So there's zero impact coming from changes in accounting. If you see the growth in gross margin at 2 10 basis points, that's the big driver of profitability increase. And the 2 main elements on the increase in gross margin, volume drives 150 basis points of margin improvement and mix and pricing as well about 220 basis points. The mix continues to be rich on watercraft as Jose talked about.
The new platform we launched last year is extremely well received and the demand for that product is strong and that's where we've gained market share. And that's a very mix a very rich mix. Side by side continues to be rich as well in terms of mix with the Defender and the Maverick X3. And snowmobile as well, the units that we delivered this quarter were the higher end models and that drove profitability upward as well.
So I guess, sorry, just to follow-up. I mean, I guess bigger picture, there's no reason to think that the sort of seasonality of the business is such that you could have 20% of annual EBITDA coming in Q2, something like that?
We with side by side growing, the annual the weight of Q2 should increase in terms of EBITDA contribution progressively, yes.
Okay. Appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. The next question is from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. Thank you
for taking my question. It has to do with Evinrude capacity. Given the incremental demand you may see from Alumacraft and Manitow, what will you need to invest in capacity at Evinrude to supply that?
Good morning, Craig. First, before those acquisition and we said it very often, the Avon Road was very good to sell on the Deep Power business, but that industry has shrank year over year. And right now, we are in the middle of the transition between G1 and G2. But the G2 transition will be finished in the next 18 months. And after, the layout the layout in the factory will be a lot simplified, less complex for the operation.
And we believe we could probably double our volume with minimum investment. Some equipment here and there, but we have plenty of capacity in sort of it.
That helps a lot. And then you had mentioned that Evinrude is on maybe 40% of your pontoon platform and under 10% of your aluminum fishing boat platform. Have you done any work to understand that customer base? To what extent does your Alumacraft customer, for example, have an engine preference? And if there is little preference there, could that number approach 100% over time?
Yes, that's a very interesting question. It's always the same debate. Is the customer shop for a boat or customer shop for the engine? And we believe that the majority of the customer shop for a boat. The engine is important for maybe 20% of the consumer, but typically the consumer decide of the boat, visit the dealer and with the dealer decide which engine, which power he will buy.
And that's why it's always the same discussion we had. Is it the tail driving the dog or the other way around? And we were at the point with the Depower business shrinking so much that we needed to enter the boat business to unlock. And we believe that by offering integrated product engine and boat from the factory, we have first, it will be better quality product for the dealers and the consumers, but also will make the choice easier for
the The next question is from Martin Landry with GMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. On your two brands of Olumicraft and Manitou, wondering where's the what's the geographic breakdown of sales? Is that mostly North American?
That's only North America, mainly Midwest.
Okay. And is there a sorry, is there a potential to expand these products internationally or that'd be challenging?
There is we already have some requests from other countries that there is interest for those type of boat. The difficulty to ship outside North America is the cost, but it's something that we'll definitely look at, but it's probably more a midterm, long term play than short term. Okay.
And my last question is on Spyder. You had a good retail sale performance during the quarter. I think it was up low teens. Was this a bound from delayed purchases in Q1 due to the harsh weather or is this you think a sustainable trend?
No. What happened, Mark, there was a delay because of weather also. Like we've said, in Q1, retail was affected by the availability of some model with the new cluster, the new gauge, and this resolved in Q2. Also, the other thing, when we saw the slow start in the spring, we've launched some programs earlier than typical, maybe a month earlier than typical. Then the combination of the incredible summer we had and the program launched earlier picked up in Q2.
Okay.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from Jean Francois Lavoie with Desjardins Capital. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. Congratulations on the quarter.
Thank you.
So I was wondering if you could provide an update on how you feel or your position in the Spider market, especially ahead of the introduction of the Project S, please?
Obviously, there is a lot of hype around the small spider that is coming. We're happy. 2 years ago, we had too much inventory and we depleted the inventory in the last 2 years. Then the inventory level is pretty comfortable in North America. There is pockets here and there, but overall, we're happy with the inventory level we have.
And this with just before the introduction of the entry level spider is very promising. And don't forget, our strategy is to repeat what we've done with the Spark with Watercraft. The Spark has generated a lot of interest, bringing a lot of new customers into the store and many customer who came in for a spark were upsell to a high end watercraft. And since the introduction of the spark, the market grew, I think, 65%, 70%. Now the we believe the same thing.
We believe that first, the price is the biggest barrier for purchase. That's why the use is so popular right now. And if you look, the price of the used is very high. And we believe by arriving with a family of product below 10,000 U. S, it will bring new customers, help the high end RT and F3 lined up, but also bring a lot of hype into the 3 wheeled vehicle business.
Then very, very upbeat. The inventory is at a good level and very enthusiastic about what we'll launch in a few days.
Great. Thank you very much for the color. And maybe if you could provide an update on the initiative for increasing the numbers of drivers in this segment?
Yes. We it's going quite well. We have opened in North America right now, and I'm going by memory, but over 125 schools so far, and we'll give you some update in a few days when we are in Denver. But we definitely have a very good momentum there. The take rate of the people taking the class is good.
Then we feel good, and it's part of the strategy. Obviously, the small spider will generate a lot of hype, but we need to facilitate the training, the training for the consumer. Then it's coming together. Very happy about signing over 125 schools so far and we're targeting more to come in the back half before the end of 2018 and it's coming together.
Great. Thank you very much. And maybe lastly for me, you mentioned that the performance of the BW market in the higher end of the segment, I was curious to know a little bit more about the lower end market with the Spark or how is the growth performing so far in this segment?
Yes. First, this year, the just to give you a sense, the luxury high end is about a third of the industry. The mid range recreational is 1 third and the spark category is 1 third of the industry. And we are slightly above last year for recreational and spark, but luxury performance, we are over 30% versus last year. Then we've gained significant market share on the high end because of the new platform.
I think worldwide we're sold out with the new platform. That's why we're going to the club in few days very happy with our position and very well positioned with the watercraft industry, I would say, worldwide.
Great. Thank you very much and congrats again.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from Jamie Katz with Morningstar. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. So I'm curious about the gross margin of the marine business. It looks like when you break it out, it's around mid teen level. And given where we are in the cycle and the improvement that these manufacturers have had, I'm curious where you think that might be able to get to over the next few years and what sort of growth is implied in the top line to boost the gross margins?
Yes. Obviously, when you compare the two businesses, the Marine business, margin is lower than our powersport business. This quarter was a bit tougher quarter in terms of wholesale, in terms of production and so that impacted the margins this quarter. As Jose said, we have capacity in the plan to easily double production. And so we're not running at full efficiency for that business.
And so the long term prospect for that business is obviously to increase margins. On the engine side, margins can come to where the powersport business is. On the boat side, boat margins industry wide are lower, probably, I'd say, 500% to, let's say, 5% to 10% lower than the powersport industry depending on both segments. However, they've got lower operating costs in terms of overhead and lower CapEx investment and they still deliver good profitability. And so our target is to bring the engine business closer to the powersport over our plan of buy, build and transform.
Okay. And then your full year guidance implies that there is some slowdown in the back half relative to the first half. And while the Q3, that you're lapping last year is pretty robust, The Q4 wasn't as great. And so I'm curious if there's anything that's giving you pause in the back half of the year or if maybe you're just being cautious? Thanks.
No. Obviously, we're still as I said, we're still going to be showing growth in the 4th quarter. But we are investing in OpEx. So the top line is going to be there in terms of growth. Margin is going to be there as well.
But in terms of operating expenses, we are investing more in the Q4 and the second half than last year. And that's what's going to slow down a bit the profitability growth versus the first half.
Also, that's okay. Severity and tariff impact. Yes.
Thank you. Thank you. The next question is from Cameron Doerksen with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Yes, thanks. Good morning. I guess just a couple of questions on the following up on the questions about the NAFTA or U. S.-Mexico deal and the impact on you guys. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like only ATVs, as you understand it are impacted?
Yes. The oddly enough, ATVs fall under auto industry legislation for NAFTA and what's been proposed between the U. S. And Mexican government is auto industry vehicle qualifications. And so side by side personal watercraft that's all excluded from the current discussions.
And they still I mean NAFTA is still valid and they still fall under NAFTA.
Okay. What about Spider? Because I guess the new Spider is going to be manufactured in Mexico?
Spider as well is going to fall under same category as side by side and personal watercraft.
Okay. And I guess any issues around, I guess there's been part of the deal has to do with certain percentage of auto industry jobs have to be at $16 an hour or minimum or something like that. Does that have any potential impact on your labor force there?
Yes. Well, that's again a so there'll be regional value content and there'll be a certain percentage of labor. So if you don't meet that, then you won't qualify for free trade and you'll pay the penalty of 2.5%. There's still a lot of questions as to okay what is $16 per hour? Is it the direct labor that goes into the manufacturing and assembly of the vehicle?
Or it's also supervisory, management and even R and D costs that are associated with the development of the parts. So that's out there. It's still preliminary, but there's more information to come as to what is the definition of a labor cost, that's $16 an hour.
Okay. Very good. Just second question, I guess, maybe a bigger picture on M and A. I mean, you guys filed a $2,500,000,000 shell prospectus last week. I'm just wondering what we should read into that?
And what your sort of bigger picture plan is for M and A? Obviously, you've got some potential plans to do additional boat building acquisitions. But are you still sort of thinking about something of a larger scale that's perhaps a new product line for BRP?
Yes. Well, I'll take that question into 2 parts. The first part, filing the shelf prospectus is something that a lot of Canadian companies do. And we've every time we've had secondary offerings, we've needed to file a prospectus every time. And so by having a shelf that will facilitate future offerings that our major shareholders might want to do to the market.
And that's the primary purpose why we did the shelf. On the M and A side, as Jose has alluded to in the past, I mean, we are open to M and A and we'll do the acquisitions which makes sense to us. We do have the balance sheet, the flexibility to it. And so that is still out there, but it's not because we filed that shelf prospectus that we have an intention of closing a material transaction in the next few months.
Got it. Very good. Thanks very much.
Thank you. The next question is from Tim Conder with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Also congratulations gentlemen on the ongoing good execution.
Thank you.
A couple here, just wanted to follow-up. Just wanted to clarify, are you looking, if we heard right, to consolidate some of the dealer networks on the Alumacraft and MAM2 acquisitions?
I don't think consolidated is the right word, but there is a lot of when you look when you map the 1,000 dealers that we have with Devello, East to West, South to North in North America, there is a lot of opportunities for Evinrude dealers who are not carrying Evinrude or Alumacraft to take over the line and open Aliyah market. There is some dealers that might decide to stop selling our boat because we have we will promote more Evinrude. Then there is a lot of optimization to be done with the dealer network. It will take probably a year, a year and a half to see what the dealer will do and to open up new dealers. But this is definitely something that we believe will have a lot of benefit for both company and Evinrude, I would say, midterm.
Okay. Okay.
And then you've talked about it several times what you've done, what you're coming up doing with Spider, what you've done in personal watercraft. And the boat acquisitions appear to be obviously a transom strategy also after admittedly good brands you acquired. But some of the step up in expense, it just seems the technology of Evinrude relative to other major multiple competitors and with 4 stroke, 6 cylinder, 8 cylinders types of things also being introduced. Should we anticipate a quantum leap at some point here? Is that part of the broad strategy?
I would say that first, like I said this morning to another question, a lot of customers shop the boat first and second the engine, not all of them, but most of them. And many customers don't even understand the difference between 2 stroke and 4 stroke is the dealer who sometime most of the time influence them. And we believe that with 2 stroke, we have an incredible technology that is cleaner in many aspects of the 4 stroke. And we believe and that's part of the transform play. We believe that we can do a better integration of the engine and the boat if we design and engineer them together.
And that will be a long term play. But we have some idea to really make a good integration of the package that we believe will make a difference for the consumer.
Okay. And then just maybe one other clarification, Sebastian. Did you say for fiscal 2019, the marine contribution would be about $0.10 in EPS?
No, for next year.
For next year.
Okay. And neutral in fiscal 2019?
Yes.
Okay. Great. Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks.
Thank you. The next question is from Derek Dley with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hey, guys. Just quickly wanted to follow-up on your commentary around potential M and A and acquisitions. Where would you be comfortable taking your leverage level to complete a larger scale acquisition?
Well, pro form a after the Manitou acquisition, which will be recorded in Q3, our leverage will be about 2 times net debt. When we IPO ed, we were at 3 times leverage, and that's some place where we were very comfortable operating at. And so we have that flexibility. And for me what I've always said is making sure you have, 1, a credit facility that is covenant light, and that's what we have today, making sure you have a facility as well that matures with a long term horizon and that's what we have today. And so could we go higher than 3 if the acquisition was super attractive?
Well, that's a discussion we'd have with the Board, but I wouldn't exclude it from our from the possibility.
Okay. That's helpful. On your inventory position heading into the back half of the year, you mentioned it's up 7%. It looks like it's very clean. In terms of the combination of your inventory and then lower promotional activity within at least the year round product space.
How comfortable are you? And what sort of the visibility that you have on the promotional environment going forward outside of year round? Like are you seeing a more promotional environment on snowmobiles at all? Or is everything looking pretty manageable at this point?
Yes. Snowmobile, it's always a bit tougher to call. We know that some OEMs have a bit of non current inventory out there. So we expect non current inventory to be promoted quite heavily. But again, the current model is very dependent on snow.
And so we always plan for a normal snow season. And if the snow is there, then good, probably less promotional. If it's a bit tougher and it takes a bit of time before the white stuff gets on the ground, then we might have to put a bit of more programs to work to get the retail moving. But in terms of overall inventory position, as we said, Q2, we're comfortable. My outlook for the end of the year is probably inventory up year over year, probably in the high single digits with SSV continuing to grow, personal watercraft as well is going to continue to grow and we might have a bit more snowmobile inventory as well.
Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you very much.
Thanks. Thank you. The next question is from Seth Wolf with Northcoast Research. Please go ahead.
Good morning, guys. Great quarter. Thanks for sneaking me on here at the end. Just wanted to touch on 2 topics, the year round products and then the new what you guys are doing in the boat space. So first, when we look at the side by side business, you had a peer in the powersports business last month.
Your quarters don't overlap exactly, but they said that the market was up or they said it was flat. And now your if we kind of look at what you guys are seeing that would imply that the market is up much more than that probably mid single digits. So I was just wondering if getting into those numbers, is it just a function of the different layout of your quarters or is there something else going on? Just trying to understand how that could be so different.
Yes, there is one, Herman, that maybe this. All the OEMs announced their new lineup June, July And at that time, a non current program for the model year 2018 like everyone have announced their 2019 models. And there is program right now going on in 'eighteen and you always have a blip of retail in the back end of our Q2 and the beginning of their Q3 that could influence. Also don't forget they had April in their quarter, which was a bad month because of the weather. And I would say that's the 2 things that I believe could influence the data.
Okay. And then just kind of piggybacking off of that, I noticed when you guys make your estimates, you continued to significantly outperform the industry, but that outperformance did that spread contracted quite a bit from 1Q to 2Q. Do you think that's largely a reflection of the programs that other OEMs are running in July? Or is there something else going on there?
Well, obviously, we've had good retail as well in Q2. The industry grew, so that's another good But our retail quarter over quarter was still very strong. Obviously, are we expecting that retail growth to continue on side by side? We'd like for it, but we're realistic in the fact that yes, we've entered into a lot of dealerships. We've launched a lot of new products.
And so our expectation is that there is going to be a slowdown in the retail growth as we take our place in the industry and as we take our place in the dealerships as well.
Okay. Got it. And then, Jose, if we could I know you talked about it at the beginning of the call with there's a lot of boat builders out there that are potentially for sale. And one of the strategies shorter term is to continue to buy. And I think you've talked about attaining critical mass.
So can you just maybe talk about what that looks like? How big do you think that, that segment needs to get before you feel comfortable saying that you've reached the critical mass to be a global power in this space?
First, there is a lot of company for sales out there, but we are very selective in what we are acquiring. As you can notice, Manitou and Alumacraft are both aluminum products where we have expertise. There even road content 10% for Alumacraft, Manitou 140, we can we have opportunity there. The dealer network, we see optimization that we could do mid term, then we will definitely we continue to look. We are looking at opportunities, but we will be very selective to acquire the right brand and also that offer the synergies that we're looking for.
Then today, we are right now continuing looking at what is available out there. But again, very happy with those 2 brands, strong brand, a lot of the know how, good product. And if we find the same type of company, we'll definitely look at it. Just to give you a timeline, you can expect that we could continue in the next 12 months to look at the opportunities.
Okay, excellent. Thank you.
Thank you. There are no further questions registered at this time. I would like to turn the meeting back over to Mr. Deschenes.
Great. Thank you, and thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning and for your interest in BRP. We look forward to speaking with you again on November 30th for our Q3 conference call. Thanks again everyone and have a good day.
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