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Earnings Call: Q2 2021

Aug 10, 2021

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome the Emera Second Quarter 2021 Analyst Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. David Bezanson, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.

David Bezanson
VP of Investor Relations, Emera

Thank you, Ren, thank you all for joining us this morning. Emera's second quarter earnings release was distributed this morning by Newswire, and the financial statements, Management's Discussion and Analysis, and the presentation being referenced on this call are available on our website at emera.com. Joining me for this morning's call are Scott Balfour, Emera's President and Chief Executive Officer, Greg Blunden, Emera's Chief Financial Officer, and other members of Emera's management team. Before we begin, I will take a moment to advise you that this morning's discussion will include forward-looking information, which is subject to the cautionary statement contained in the supporting slide. Today's discussion and presentation will also include references to non-GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the appendix for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP financial measure. Now, I will turn things over to Scott.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. This morning, we released our second quarter results, and I'm pleased to say that we continued to see solid results and steady growth in our business. We delivered quarterly adjusted earnings per share of CAD 0.54, an increase of CAD 0.06 over last year. Year-to-date adjusted earnings per share of CAD 1.49, up CAD 0.22 over 2021, despite facing pressure from foreign exchange rates. Our team also continues to safely execute on our capital program, and we're on track to complete our CAD 2.4 billion 2021 plan. The team is also making significant progress on the regulatory front. Last Friday, we filed a settlement agreement related to a request for a general base rate increase at Tampa Electric.

Unanimously supported by all intervening consumer parties, it's a balanced agreement that supports Tampa Electric and Emera's strategy to advance cleaner energy and investments in grid modernization and reliability, all the while never losing sight of affordability for customers. As you know, Tampa Electric has been significantly reducing the carbon intensity of its generation mix with major investments in solar and the Big Bend modernization project. Today, Tampa Electric is Florida's top producer of solar energy on a per customer basis. This three-year agreement allows Tampa Electric to continue this progress, providing rate support for investments already made as well as those planned over the period, giving us confidence in our ability to continue to deliver on many fronts. If approved, we'll see an increase in base revenues of $122.7 million starting in 2022. These are all U.S. dollars.

A further $90 million in 2023 and $21 million in 2024. The agreement also creates the Clean Energy Transition Mechanism, which will allow Tampa Electric to collect revenue of $69 million annually over the next 16 years, starting January 1st of 2022, to recover the full carrying and dismantling costs of Big Bend units 1, 2, and 3. This, together with the base rate increase in 2022 that I mentioned, means rates will increase by $191 million starting January 1st of 2022, and with the full one additions in 2023 and 2024. The agreement also provides for a 9%-11% ROE band, with a midpoint set at 9.95% for rate-making purposes, and no change to our equity thickness. Thank you to the team in Florida for their hard work in reaching this outcome.

In fact, this agreement reflects the hard work of all parties involved in securing rate certainty through the end of 2024 for Tampa Electric customers, while positioning the utility to make continued investments in resiliency, customer solutions, and a greener energy future. Tampa Electric's settlement is the third rate case in our U.S. utilities over the past year. As you'll recall, Peoples Gas and New Mexico Gas concluded rate cases last year. This is in addition to the successful application to recover fuel costs associated with Winter Storm Uri in New Mexico and a mid-course adjustment for fuel cost recovery at Tampa Electric. This track record is a testament to the caliber of our regulatory teams, as well as the quality of the regulatory jurisdictions where we operate. It also speaks to the collaborative approach we take that ensures balanced outcomes for all involved.

I know this is not easy work, I want to take a moment to thank all those involved for their expertise and efforts. We also announced another significant milestone on Monday morning. Delivery of the Nova Scotia block of clean energy from the Muskrat Falls Hydroelectric Project will begin to flow through the Maritime Link to Nova Scotia Power customers this coming weekend. This is a significant step that brings us closer to the shared goal of having 80% of Nova Scotia's energy coming from renewable sources by 2023. The Maritime Link was a bold idea that will deliver clean energy to Nova Scotians for generations to come. It's part of a long-term vision to support the energy transition in this region.

We see the Maritime Link as the first step in the regional transmission interconnections that are critical to support more local renewables and enable continued carbon reduction in Nova Scotia, all moving us towards achieving the vision to achieve net zero CO2 emissions by 2050. The Maritime Link project was completed on time and within budget. It was an absolutely massive project, executed safely and expertly by the Emera team and many partners who helped make it a reality. Thank you to the Emera team and all our partners and stakeholders who share our commitment to a greener energy future through building stronger regional connections. This project is the result of the vision and hard work of so many, including Indigenous partners, provincial governments, the federal government, Nalcor, and countless local, regional, and national partners.

The commencement of the Nova Scotia Block flowing on the Maritime Link is a significant part of delivering on our climate commitment. With the Nova Scotia Block, Nova Scotia Power is on track to generate approximately 60% of its electricity from renewable sources by 2022. This helps deliver on Emera's overall commitment to a 55% reduction of CO2 by 2025. At Tampa Electric, we continue to build out of our solar program with 5.3 million panels currently up and operating, and another 700,000 to be installed this year. In early July, we released our 2020 sustainability report, which highlights our progress on all our environmental, social, and governance commitments through December 31st of 2020. The report captures not only the progress we're making, but the commitment from our team to advance our strategy.

We continue to enhance our ESG disclosures and remain committed to transparently reporting on the factors that are most important to our investors and stakeholders. Meanwhile, however, COVID continues to challenge many of our communities. While Nova Scotian case numbers remain low, case counts in Florida are concerning for everyone. Sadly, we lost one of our employees yesterday due to complications related to COVID-19. This tragic loss illustrates that this pandemic is far from over. This is a difficult loss for our entire team, and we extend our condolences to Bill's colleagues and family. I want to thank our employees for continuing to do their part, not only for our customers, but also for each other. Whether that is getting vaccinated, continuing to follow public health guidelines, and always keeping health and safety first in mind.

You've heard me say it before, but our response to the pandemic has really highlighted the strength of our team and strategy. Emera is on solid ground. With significant progress on the regulatory front, we have good visibility into our cash flows for the next few years. This allows us to focus our attention on growing the business by continuing to invest in our strategy of safely delivering cleaner, reliable, and affordable energy to our customers. Before I hand it over to Greg to walk through our financials, I'd like to officially welcome Gil Quiniones to Emera's board of directors. Gil is currently President and CEO of the New York Power Authority. His 30-year career extends across regulated and unregulated utility markets, public utilities, and state and local governments. He is an energy industry leader with deep experience in driving innovation, new technologies, and cleaner energy solutions for customers.

Welcome, Gil. We're fortunate to have you on the Emera team. Now I'll turn you over to Greg to walk you through our financial results. Greg?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone. This morning, we reported second quarter adjusted earnings of CAD 137 million and adjusted earnings per share of CAD 0.54. For the six-month year to date, adjusted earnings were CAD 380 million and adjusted earnings per share was CAD 1.49. Our adjusted earnings exclude mark-to-market adjustments that I will discuss in a few minutes. Emera's adjusted earnings per share increased for the quarter and year to date, despite foreign exchange headwinds of CAD 0.04 and CAD 0.08, respectively. The Q2 increase of CAD 0.06 per share was driven by a strong quarter in the gas utilities and infrastructure segment led by Peoples Gas, with the segment contributing $10 million more than in Q2 2020. Peoples Gas continues to benefit from new rates and continued growth in its customer base.

The timing of preferred share dividends also gave us a year-over-year increase of CAD 12 million, as we recorded two dividends in Q2 2020 and only one in Q2 2021. The Canadian utilities contributed modestly to the growth, with a higher contribution from the Maritime Link and Labrador Island Link projects. Lower corporate interest expense as a result of our efforts to reduce corporate debt continued this quarter. On the non-regulated front, we continue to see better results at Emera Energy due to strength in market pricing and increased volatility. These positive changes were partially offset by the impact of a stronger Canadian dollar and by slightly lower earnings at Tampa Electric, which experienced increased O&M and depreciation resulting from our continued investments in solar and Big Bend, and the effect of a regulatory settlement that led to an $8 million amortization credit last year.

Adjusting for the foreign exchange impacts and the amortization credit in 2020, Tampa Electric was modestly up quarter-over-quarter. Year-to-date increases in adjusted EPS of CAD 0.22 were due to higher earnings in the gas, utilities, and infrastructure segment, as discussed a moment ago, and better results in marketing and trading. Lower interest expense in corporate O&M and the preferred share dividend timing also improved earnings in the first half of 2021 versus 2020. These increases over last year were partially offset by the impact of a stronger Canadian dollar, which negatively impacted our earnings by approximately CAD 20 million or CAD 0.08 in EPS. We continue to be partially hedged through the remainder of 2021 at a rate of CAD 1.42 for approximately CAD 25 million per quarter. We look to layer on more hedges as foreign exchange rates return to normal levels as we have seen recently.

The recording of the amortization credit in Tampa Electric last year and the sale of Emera Maine added to approximately CAD 0.05 or CAD 14 million in earnings that we didn't have this year. Finally, higher share count reduced EPS by CAD 0.02 in the quarter and CAD 0.05 on a year-to-date basis. Overall, we are pleased with 2021 so far. Emera Energy's Q2 mark-to-market loss had a material impact on reported earnings. Many of you will remember that we had a similar situation in 2016. I'm going to take a minute to give a refresher on what is going on here. Emera Energy has a number of Asset Management Agreements, or AMAs, with gas and power utilities and natural gas producers, where they buy or sell gas for a specific term and take a corresponding release of the counterparty's gas transportation or storage capacity.

Mark-to-market adjustments on those AMAs arise on the price difference between the point where the gas is sourced and where it is sold. At inception, the mark-to-market adjustment is fully offset by the value of the corresponding gas transportation asset. Of course, the gas prices change over the term of the AMA, which means the value of the transportation also changes. However, the two elements are accounted for differently. The gas is mark-to-market, and the transportation is amortized evenly over the term. This results in some net mark-to-market gains or losses recorded in income. Ultimately, though, the gas transportation asset and the mark-to-market adjustment reduces to zero at the end of the contract term.

It is important to emphasize that these arrangements have no actual economic market exposure because regardless of the difference in the value of the gas between the receipt and delivery points, Emera Energy has transportation capacity that enables it to move the gas to the point at which it is priced. While year to date, we have seen a decrease in cash flow from operations before changes in working capital, it can be largely attributed to the significant increase in gas costs at New Mexico Gas related to Winter Storm Uri. Adjusting for that cash flow impact, cash flow from operations before working capital was up slightly over last year. Looking forward, there are a number of events that have occurred recently that will positively impact operating cash flow going forward, both in terms of incremental cash and greater certainty around the cash flow that we've been expecting.

As a point of reference, every CAD 50 million of cash flow improves our credit metrics by approximately 30 basis points. In Q2, we received regulatory approval for a mechanism to collect the $108 million of incremental fuel costs in New Mexico that we disclosed last quarter. Starting on July 1st of this year, we will collect the full amount plus carrying costs over a 30-month period. While simply timing, this will have the effect of increasing operating cash flow over the following 30 months. This will provide $43 million in incremental cash flow in each of the next two years, as well as an additional $22 million in the second half of 2021. This month, we also received approval for our mid-course correction related to our fuel adjustment clause in Tampa Electric.

As approved, it will provide for an additional $83 million in revenue over the remainder of 2021. Looking forward to 2022, we continue to make significant progress on improving our cash flow. With the rate cases of our three U.S. utilities behind us, our corporate interest costs coming down, and the Maritime Link and Labrador Island Link soon contributing their full amounts, we will have a good line of sight into strengthening cash flow positioning going forward. With that, I'll turn the presentation back over to Dave.

David Bezanson
VP of Investor Relations, Emera

Thank you, Greg. This concludes the presentation. We would now like to open the call for questions from analysts.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we would like to take any questions you might have for us today. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, simply press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We have our first question from the line of Ben Pham from BMO. Please go ahead.

Ben Pham
Analyst, BMO

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. With the Tampa settlement, I recognize you got to get still approval for that, and you have the decision on the Mexico gas fuel costs and lows coming in. Do you have better confidence now in terms of where the cash flow is going to go in 2022?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Good morning, Ben. It's Greg. We do. I think it's fair to say we always had confidence. Certainly, the settlements that we reached are in alignment with what our expectations would have been, and I think it's fair to say what the expectations of the rating agencies would have been. The target of 12% FFO/CFO to debt in 2022 is very much achievable at this point in time.

Ben Pham
Analyst, BMO

Okay. When you actually head towards 2022, you have a step change in the Florida business and the cash coming in. Do you think you could be in a position where you can self-fund your CapEx program post-2022? I know there's a bit of DRIP still in the back end, but as you look forward, is there an increasing probability of that?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Yeah. I think that nothing's changed from our expectation of what our funding requirements are for the 2021 through to 2023 period. We'll, of course, refresh that in the fall when we also refresh our capital forecast. At this point in time, we're committed to maintaining our DRIP at the level we are. The ATM program is functioning quite well from our perspective, and we'll continue to access that for probably in the CAD 50 million-CAD 60 million a quarter on average going forward for at least the next couple of years.

Ben Pham
Analyst, BMO

Okay. Can you guys comment, maybe high level, you think your CapEx program, there's some advanced metering investments in there, NSPI. Is there more to go, maybe just broad automation and implementing digital systems and whatnot? Is there more upside and opportunity for that in your plan?

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Ben, I think broadly across the portfolio is, we continue to make investments to modernize the grid and make investments in customer-facing technologies. For sure, that'll be part of our CapEx plan going forward. There's aspects of that obviously within the plan now. AMI smart meters have been obviously the most significant part of that and part that we've talked about. There have been other components of that as well across the portfolio. For certain that'll continue to be an important part of our capital program moving forward and part of the transition that we're driving as well.

Ben Pham
Analyst, BMO

Okay. That's great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just wanted to come back to the question around the funding and now that you've got the settlement agreement. Maybe Greg, when you look at that sort of funding pie chart and you had equity at 15%-25%, as it stands now, are you kind of trending towards that middle, say, 20% equity when you talked about $50 million a quarter for the ATM? Is that sort of where you're guiding to in the midpoint of the equity requirements you flagged before?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Yeah, Mark. I'd say, I don't think there's anything that would necessarily suggest that we'd want to tighten that range. I think that range for equity requirements over the three years is still appropriate. As I mentioned in response to Ben's question, we'll update that when we update our capital program later in the year. At this point in time, I think that's the most appropriate guidance for us to have out there.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Fair enough. Coming to the Tampa, the fuel charge recovery, was there a bit of a drag in this quarter or last quarter in terms of just carrying the higher fuel cost? Just wondering if on that $83 million of higher revenue that comes through on the new rates, is any of that a bit of a catch-up or is that all just adjusting to where commodity costs are trending more in the back half of this year?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Yeah, it's a combination, Mark, of a catch-up for the first half of the year as well as capturing what we expect the incremental fuel cost would be above what's in the base fuel cost of rates in the second half of the year as well.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Any way to sort of give us a little bit of color in terms of how much of a grind might've been on Tampa earnings in the last quarter?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

It wouldn't have any impact on earnings at all, Mark, because it just flows through the fuel clause.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. Fair enough. My last question, just on the Muskrat Falls, the Nova Scotia Block coming through now. What's sort of the backup plan if there was ever any unplanned outages on that or issues with your own transmission lines in terms of obligations on sort of renewable electricity sort of mixed commitments and stuff in terms of how you guys either would be exposed on any penalties or how you would fill in if there was ever any sort of temporary losses in that power coming through?

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Mark, I'll start and then Peter I know is on the phone and he can sort of backfill my answer. Broadly, we expect now with the Nova Scotia Block flowing that will also enable incremental energy beyond the Nova Scotia Power Block also to flow. We expect that that will effectively allow Nova Scotia Power to procure the renewable energy that it needs in addition to that that's already being generated natively here in the province to be able to meet that standard. Peter, over to you to add any more clarity.

Peter Gregg
President and CEO, Nova Scotia Power

Thanks, Scott, and hi, Mark. In terms if there were to be any transmission outages on that line, it's part of our reliability planning, we need to ensure we've got a portfolio of resources that's available to fill in any gaps. We'll continue to utilize our coal fleet as we shut those down over the next number of years. We've got gas facilities, we've got existing renewables, we've got hydro facilities. We've also got the tie line into New Brunswick. We've got options, and that's what we do every day is plan for those contingencies to make sure we can provide a reliable source of power.

Mark Jarvi
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Maurice Choy from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you and good morning. My first question is on Tampa Electric. You are obviously open to go right to the end on a fully litigated case, but you're also willing to engage in the settlement, which obviously was the route that you took. You mentioned earlier that this agreement aligned with your expectations, but as you look at this package holistically, can you discuss the puts and takes that led you to accept this settlement? Also how this deal may compare to the ones that your peers in Florida also filed, Duke Energy Florida this year as well as FPL yesterday.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Yeah. Thanks for the question, Maurice. Archie, maybe I'll get you to answer the first part of that question, and then I'll answer the second.

Archie Collins
President and CEO, Tampa Electric

Sure. Very good. Thanks, Scott. Good morning, Maurice. Maurice, I think your first half of the question was, were we prepared to go the full distance on a fully litigated rate case? We absolutely were. The team here was in parallel with the settlement we were working on, was busily prepping themselves for being on the witness stand during the hearing and preparing, filing testimony, et cetera. We were fully prepared. Is there a way for us to work through this and achieve an outcome that we believe is equal to, if not better than, what we might derive from a fully litigated settlement? Is there a way to do it that brings certainty to what the price increases will be for customers on the first of January of 2022?

There are other reasons as well, reputational and otherwise, why we would have saw fit to engage with all of the consumer parties. The agreement that we ultimately reached is one we feel really good about for us as an organization and where we sit today. It is a settlement that represents a significant for growth, all at a pace that we believe customers can afford. That is an important element for us as we work through this settlement. When we look at the settlement, we look at it in its entirety as opposed to looking at any one element of it. I say that because we look at it as an entire package of not just de-risking and an affordable pace and a platform for growth, but we also look at it from the perspective of doability.

We know what we negotiated, and we feel extremely confident that the agreement that we have reached will allow Tampa Electric to perform in the higher end of that ROE range. We don't view the 9.95% midpoint as a midpoint. We view that quite frankly, as a starting point. Based upon what we have negotiated with the consumer parties, we are extremely confident that that settlement with a subset of their interveners compares to the settlement that we have achieved with all of our consumer parties. Anything else, Scott?

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

No. I think that covered it, I think that largely answered the second question, too, Maurice. I think as Archie said, look, what we have in front of us, the settlement agreement that we have in front of us, unanimously supported. I think it gives us a clear pathway to approval. There is, of course, a process that needs to go through with the Florida Public Service Commission. Obviously with all of the intervening parties supporting that agreement, we have confidence in the outcome. This settlement agreement will allow us to deliver on our plans, our plan for our customers and our plans for shareholders as well.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Maybe just a follow-up to those comments. 9.95% is your starting point, and obviously the higher end is at 11%. Can you compare that expectation to what you've achieved for the last few years? From my recollection, it's probably around 10% or just above 10%, but happy to hear your thoughts on that.

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Yeah, Maurice, it's Greg. I think it's fair to say that we probably, and maybe one year might have been slightly higher than this or one year slightly lower, but I think we've generally been in around 10.25%-10.5% in its totality, probably positions us well that on average we would expect to kind of maintain that level of performance at the utility.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Just my final question on the Investor Day that you've scheduled for December. Notwithstanding that you're obviously still waiting for a decision from the regulator in Florida, but what are perhaps the two or three things that you're still waiting on over the next three or four months?

In order to provide us an update to the CapEx and funding plan.

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Yeah. I wouldn't say there's anything, Maurice, that we're waiting for from a regulatory perspective or anything like that. We're just going through. It's a natural part of our planning cycle right now at Emera, where we're going through and reviewing capital plans with all of our businesses, and there's just some internal work that needs to have to get rolled up, and we review that with our board to make sure that we have their full support. It's really more of an internal process thing than anything else.

Maurice Choy
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Understood. Thank you very much.

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

You're welcome, Maurice.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have from Rob Hope from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

Morning, everyone. Just a follow-up question on the TECO ROE. Just want to further kind of clarify our understanding here. What are the key drivers that will move you kind of to the upper end of the band? Then through the agreement, do you think you'll kind of start towards the upper end and then, as a little bit of rate lag sets in, you could kind of drift lower to get you to that overall 10.25% average?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

I think the greatest variability that we'll see over the next couple of years is weather and load-related, Rob. Obviously, we're experiencing some customer growth, and we expect that to continue over the period. With that customer growth, obviously, comes some load growth. We do have also step changes in revenue in both 2023 and 2024, which also helps. Again, on its whole, we would expect to maintain a fairly consistent ROE profile with probably the variable being weather and then ultimately residential load as a result of that weather.

Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

All right. Thanks for that. Just in terms of your kind of capital outlook, the opportunities under development that you've been talking about for some time now have, we'll call it just under CAD 200 million of potential CapEx this year and over CAD 400 million next year. Where are we in moving those opportunities from under development into the secured bucket?

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

You've heard us articulate before, about half of it is projects related to the Atlantic Loop or direct investments in the Atlantic Loop. As we said, we expect to have greater clarity and be able to provide some additional color around that in the fall of this year. Some of the other projects, I can't say we're seeing necessarily material changes in them. We are seeing some progress in some of our utilities. New Mexico is an example where we're starting to look at gas storage as an opportunity in reaction to what was experienced with Winter Storm Uri. There's a few things like that, Robert, but I wouldn't say there's necessarily anything significant to call out for you.

Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

Great. Thank you. Appreciate the call.

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. The next one we have from Linda Ezergailis from TD Securities.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you. I know that my question has been answered, but maybe I'll switch the focus a little bit to your operating results. I'm wondering if you could give us a sense of the puts and takes in your operating expenses as it relates to any sort of inflationary pressures you're seeing versus any sort of ongoing or new productivity initiatives, especially perhaps leveraging learnings from remote learning and adopting new technologies during the pandemic.

Greg Blunden
CFO, Emera

Well, I can start, Linda, and then maybe Scott can add on. It's a big question. I can say on our kind of our day-to-day operating expenses, if you think of kind of corporate expenses and things like that, we're not really seeing any inflationary increases yet. Although I'm not sure what the level of activity would necessarily highlight that at this point in time, because clearly nobody's traveling and some of those things. We're still seeing a lot of benefits from that side of it. I think what we've experienced over the last year, how that will continue, I think there's no question that the volume of travel, some conferences, things like that, investor conferences and things like that, I think there's no question some of them will stay virtual, and I think we'll see some benefit from that side of it.

On our core operating utilities, minimal impact so far, I would say, from an inflationary perspective. The area we're starting to see some is on things like poles and wires, kind of just the day-to-day maintenance of our system. Fortunately, we're a cost-of-service utility. Those inevitably get passed through to customers. A lot of our costs are labor and labor-related costs that are through agreements with unionized workforces. Interest rates are certainly being helpful. I'd say collectively as a whole, it's something we're watching, it's not something that we've seen any kind of impact on our financial results to date.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Yeah, I think in terms of cost efficiencies, Linda, I think sort of remote aspect of work, I'm not sure that we'd point to anything of notable scale there. Where we are certainly seeing some efficiencies is we continue to invest in cleaner energy. Things like the conversion of coal units to natural gas-fired units drives a lot of operating cost efficiency. The labor component of running a gas plant is much less than that of running a coal plant. The same again when you think about renewables.

We're seeing those kinds of efficiencies as well, the impact of technology, smart meters, and the impact there of taking away some of the manual processes that were required, not just the reading of meters as was required in Nova Scotia, for example, but even the ability to remote disconnect and reconnect without needing to roll a truck in order to perform that service. We're seeing those kinds of efficiencies that the business is benefiting from, and that's an ongoing focus area for us for sure.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you.

Speaker 16

That as confidently as I can say that we certainly will be within the range. There's been a little July has been okay, but certainly not as sweet as June was. I guess how I would. Not bad, just not too exciting.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

That your annual planning process needs to run its course. I am just wondering how any sort of conversations with both your equity and debt investors are informing your thoughts going into that process around a potentially expanded investor base. Are you seeing some of your sustainability initiatives and reporting and targets translating into potentially broader access to new classes of investors or potentially shifting your investor base a little bit? Any context around that would be helpful.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Yeah. It's an interesting question, Linda. I'm not sure I'd necessarily say we've seen a really notable shift or extension. I would say that we've been getting really good feedback from existing investors and prospective new investors who are focused in the ESG space around our disclosure, around the language that we're using as it relates even to our carbon reduction initiatives and efforts. Look, we've been working hard to try and tell the story better. I think we've had a good story to tell for a long time. We just haven't really focused on telling it as well as we have in the last year or two and making steps that we did to really bring some robustness to our sustainability report.

The most recent one issued about a month ago now are not just telling the story about the carbon reduction efforts that have already been achieved, but what our plans and our goals are moving forward as part of our climate commitments. I think, frankly, being candid with our investors around our visibility to achieving an 80% reduction by 2040. The net zero component of our climate commitment being more visionary, if you were in ambition, without the ability to have perfect line of sight as to how that could be achieved affordably as we sit today. I think all those messages have resonated.

I think, frankly, within our two largest emitters, Nova Scotia Power and Tampa Electric, just even the clarity of the significant progress that both have already made in terms of carbon reduction, I think has been something that shareholders have welcomed more clarity around the significance of the achievements already made.

Linda Ezergailis
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you. I'll jump back in the queue.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Thanks, Linda.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Andrew Kuske from Credit Suisse.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you. Good morning. Your renewable power generation exposure has largely been tied to your rate-based activities in your utility businesses in several jurisdictions. What appetite do you have to either build or acquire renewables outside of a regulated framework?

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Yeah, Andrew, it's a really good question, and of course, one that we've asked ourselves about. I think, we continue to be comfortable with our approach, obviously, with an eye on the pace of investment, given its impact on affordability. Is to really focus on the transition of our generation-based in our regulated utilities towards renewables. Looking at it outside of our regulated service territories, we do look at it, we do think about it. Of course, our efforts with Emera Technologies today is, in a way, a part of that in terms of looking at how distributed renewable generation and backup battery storage can be part of a system, whether that's inside our service territories or in the service territories of others. That today would be our primary focus. It's an area that we've looked at.

Primarily, our focus is rate-based investments of renewables and continuing to push along our BlockE nergy concept that Emera Technologies has developed.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

That's very helpful context. Maybe it's just really a function of, you have so much growth within the embedded rate bases, and you're trying to avoid rate shock, and that's really the focus right now, because it's effectively captive solar efforts, for example, in Florida.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Yeah, exactly right. We look at the risk-return trade-off in doing something outside of the investment opportunity profile that we have now. We keep directing our capital towards those areas where we think the risk-return balance is most in favor of our shareholders.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

One small question, and maybe a bit of a blast from the past, but also ties into the renewable power side of things, and really just on tidal power. Are there any initiatives going on on the tidal power side at this point in time?

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Not by us. I know the province here in Nova Scotia continues to look at it. No. We've obviously taken two kicks at that. It's a really interesting concept, but it's a long way from being commercial. As I say, our capital continues to be focused on those places where the risk-return profile is to the best advantage of shareholders. That's not an area that we're currently pursuing.

Andrew Kuske
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from David Quezada from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

David Quezada
Analyst, Raymond James

Thanks. Morning, everyone. My first question here, just on Maritime Link. I believe there's a comment in the MD&A that you have the potential to purchase additional power from Nalcor under an energy access agreement. Just curious what would cause you to exercise that and how you could make use of it. Potentially, I guess, flexibility on the cap and trade program or requirements in Nova Scotia.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Peter, are you comfortable to answer that?

Peter Gregg
President and CEO, Nova Scotia Power

Yeah. I think Rick can add as well. Hi, David. I think it's certainly an option. As we look to decarbonize our resource fleet, if it makes sense economically to expand that source of power, when you compare it to other options, I would say it is an option for us to further decarbonize as we shut down coal. We'll judge that based on how it stacks up to other options. As Scott mentioned before, as we decarbonize, the most important thing for us is that we do that in an affordable way. It would need to be a cost-competitive option for us.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

I think Peter said it great, David. It really is something that's available to Nova Scotia Power if it's in the best economic interest of its customers. It's got that option to procure that energy. If it can procure other energy or generate other energy for less cost, it will do that. It really provides that incremental benefit to Nova Scotia Power's planning and Nova Scotia Power customers as it relates to cost and affordability of energy moving forward. I think that's probably the best way to describe it. Rick, was there anything else that you'd like to add? I wasn't sure if you were on or not, Rick.

Rick Janega
COO, Emera

No. You've both covered it.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Thank you.

David Quezada
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay, great. Thank you for that color. Appreciate it. Then maybe just one kind of higher-level question in the U.S. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on how a potential clean energy standard federally could affect things or, I guess, create opportunities maybe even across your footprint.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

I think the way I'd describe it, David, is as a regulated utility, through regulation, we have an obligation to produce for customers the cheapest electron that is compliant to whatever the rules and regulations and legislation exists in that environment. The renewables that Nova Scotia Power has been investing in over the last two years have been part of that journey to meet the 40% renewable requirement that was set provincially here. The renewables that are being invested in in Florida have been made on the basis that they are the most cost-effective sources of energy for the overall mix for Tampa Electric. To the extent that there is a renewable standard that's imposed, it's another consideration.

It's another factor as it relates to the generation planning for Tampa Electric, if it's a U.S.-based or Florida-based standard that may change, i.e., accelerate the pace of investment in order to produce that cheapest electron that is compliant with regulation. It would be directionally positive, but in the moment, Tampa Electric continues to decarbonize its fleet, both with things like Big Bend modernization and the investment in renewables, because it's in customers' best interests now, even before consideration of a renewable energy standard. It's not holding us back from doing the right thing for customers today. If there was a change, obviously Tampa Electric would factor that into its own planning, and that might cause an acceleration. We also want to make sure that we're balancing affordability for customers at all times, and that would be part of the planning as well.

David Quezada
Analyst, Raymond James

Excellent. Thank you very much for that, Scott.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Dariusz Lozny from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Dariusz Lozny
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just wanted to clarify and follow up on the inflation comments from earlier, specifically as it relates to your solar initiatives in Florida. Are you seeing much as far as inflationary pressures on the prices of panels or things like that? It sounded like maybe the answer is no, but I'll let you respond there.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Archie?

Archie Collins
President and CEO, Tampa Electric

Yep, happy to take that. Good morning, Dariusz. We're not seeing any inflation on the panels because we would have purchased those in advance. We have a long-term agreement with First Solar at fixed pricing that goes out for the full term of the construction period. That goes beyond just the panels. It goes to the inverters, the trackers, and other elements that we had to safe harbor as part of those investments in order to secure the investment tax credit. We're seeing some inflation on things like the steel that's used for the posts and some other smaller aspects of the projects, but nothing substantive that changes the economics of those investments.

Dariusz Lozny
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, excellent. Thank you very much. One more, if I can, just now that you've [audio distortion] as far as the growth or potentially the payout ratio, just curious how you're thinking about it.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Yeah. I don't think we're thinking about it any differently today than we were last week or last year. Obviously, any change in the dividend is always a purview of board of directors. It's typically a discussion that we have on an annual basis, typically in the fall. Look, when we set the dividend growth target at the level that it currently is, we did that with an eye to the long term as to what we believed was sustainable over the long term. Of course, our guidance period will be adjusted from time to time, but really had a view as to what do we believe the earnings growth potential of the business is on an EPS basis. Looking to ensure that we see an earnings growth potential that exceeds the rate of growth of the dividend over the long term.

That's how and why the dividend growth target of 4%-5% was set a few years ago. We continue to look through that lens and with that outlook today as we have before.

Dariusz Lozny
Analyst, Bank of America

Excellent. Thank you very much. I'll leave it there.

Operator

Thank you. I am showing no further questions at this time. Mr. Scott Balfour, please continue.

Scott Balfour
President and CEO, Emera

Okay. Thank everybody for participating in the call, and we look forward to our call as part of the third quarter. Wish everybody a healthy and safe balance of the summer.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.