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Earnings Call: Q2 2024

Feb 14, 2024

Pierre-Yves Terrisse
VP Corporate Development, NanoXplore

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's remarks, including management outlook and answers to questions, contain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements represent an expectation, as of today, February 14, 2024, and accordingly are subject to change. Such statements are based on assumptions that may not materialize and are subject to risk and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. A description of the risk factors that may affect future results is contained in NanoXplore's annual information form, available on our corporate website and in our filings with the Canadian Securities Administrators on SEDAR. On the call with me this morning are Soroush Nazarpour, NanoXplore's founder and Chief Executive Officer, and Pedro Azevedo, our Chief Financial Officer.

After remarks from Soroush and Pedro, we'll open the call to questions from financial analysts. Let me now turn the call over to Soroush.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Thank you, P.Y., and good morning. I will first start with the review of the economy as it relates to our business. I will then expand on our capital allocation plans and will end my remarks with an update on VoltaXplore. As the central banks are deciding on the timing of the interest rate cuts, we're seeing increased activities with our customers. Our customers' forecasts are strong and growing. The North American economy continues to show resilience and is giving confidence to our customers. Against that backdrop, I'm very pleased with the performance of the NanoXplore team. We continue to perform at a high level. Our balance sheet is strong, and we're executing on our capital allocation priorities. We delivered good results overall in the second quarter and made excellent progress in our graphene-enhanced composite products.

We announced new program awards and expansion of existing programs with more than CAD 30 million in annual incremental revenues. Demand is very strong for our graphene-enhanced composite products, and customers are open to covering the related capital requirements and supporting us financially to increase our production capacity. According to IDTechEx's graphene market report, composites are currently the largest segment of the graphene market and will continue to be nearly half of the global graphene market in the next 10 years. Our graphene-enhanced composite products are currently sold under the commercial name GrapheneBlack SMC. It provides up to 15% weight reduction versus conventional SMC at neutral cost to the OEMs through downgaging, which enables the use of less materials per part. Moreover, GrapheneBlac k SMC improves moisture resistance of the SMC-molded components, which leads to less surface blistering after painting and less quality defects as a result.

These improvements are so significant that their impact is visible on our gross margin and have been recognized by our customers. Furthermore, these graphene-enhanced SMC solutions improve mechanical rigidity, accelerate the molding process, and increase flame retardancy. All these improvements enable applications in lithium-ion battery enclosure business, which are of great interest to NanoXplore. Now, related to graphene sales activities outside of the composite market, our sales team has been quite active. We have started supplying graphene to five new customers, three of which are in the coatings market , one in the adhesive market, and another in the fabric market. This shows the great potential of our graphene products to enter multiple markets outside of what has been announced before, such as foam, concrete, drilling fluid, and recycled plastics. In these markets, we continue our work with customers and go through validation steps one- by- one.

For instance, the validation process related to our graphene-enhanced products for insulation foam has continued very positively with one of the largest chemical companies in the world. Related to drilling fluids, our graphene is performing very well and testing is ongoing with several oil and gas companies. Sales in the recycled plastic market are continuing, and we're expecting volumes to grow with new customers. All in all, we're seeing progress on multiple markets, and our graphene is performing well in trials. Even though the validation and certification process of a new material takes years and is a difficult endeavor, we're maintaining our financial discipline and successfully navigated the uncertainties of the last year. Now, looking forward, and as economic certainties are improving, our customers and partners are getting their confidence back to introduce new products, and along with them, we're continuing our R&D and customer validation trials.

Now, moving on to our five-year strategic plan, we have advanced further in the implementation of our plans, particularly related to capital requirements. I'm pleased to announce that the total capital requirement for our five-year plan is reduced by 15% to CAD 140 million -CAD 150 million from originally announced CAD 170 million, mainly due to optimization of engineering work and equipment cost reductions, as well as customer investments on the manufacturing equipment. To finance that, we are finalizing our new credit facility in the next few weeks and in the final discussion with the federal and provincial governments. These discussions started early last year, and we're anticipating a conclusion shortly as we have received positive feedback from both levels of the government recently. This should cover almost all of our capital requirements for our five-year plan and should remove uncertainties for our shareholders.

VoltaXplore financing is also continuing with the due diligence of our lead investor and continuation of the paperwork for government support. Even though it has been a long process to secure the financing of all these projects, I'm quite pleased that we are reaching the end of it and can start construction of these facilities next quarter. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Pedro, who will provide details about our financial performance.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

[Foreign language] , Soroush. [Foreign language] . Good morning, everyone. Today, I will begin with a review of our Q2 financial results, followed by an update on financing for our five-year strategic plan, and conclude with some commentary about our fiscal year 2024. Total revenues in Q2 were 6% lower than Q2 2023 at CAD 29.1 million. The decrease in revenue was directly attributable to two main items. First, a six-week strike at one of our customers impacted us by approximately CAD 3 million. Second, tooling revenues were CAD 700,000 lower, which was purely a timing effect that will be recovered in the second half of the year. If it were not for these two impacts, total revenues would have increased compared to last year, resulting from higher volume, including the demand for graphene-enhanced composite products.

With regards to gross margins, although total revenues during the quarter decreased, gross margins were the same as last year at CAD 5.5 million. This was due to gross margins as a percentage of sales increasing from 17.8% to 19.4% year-over-year and was driven by improved productivity, resulting in part from the manufacturing cost benefits of producing graphene-enhanced products, higher margin product mix, and various manufacturing efficiency improvements put in place over the last year. This year-over-year margin improvement has been a trend for the last six quarters, and we are pleased that it is continuing. Adjusted EBITDA was just shy of break-even at -CAD 92,000 and was comprised of +CAD 416,000 in the advanced materials, plastics, and composite product segments, an improvement of CAD 300,000 versus last year, despite the lower sales and CAD 509,000- in the battery sales segment, which encompasses the VoltaXplore initiative.

Since VoltaXplore was a shared cost with Martinrea last year and excluded from EBITDA, there is no direct EBITDA comparable to our previous year's numbers. If the quarter had not been impacted by the strike, adjusted EBITDA in the advanced materials, plastics, and composite segment would have been over CAD 1.2 million. Looking at our year-to-date numbers, while sales were approximately CAD 1 million below last year, mainly due to the two discussed impacts in the most recent quarter, our year-to-date adjusted EBITDA, excluding VoltaXplore initiative, was +CAD 590,000 and is CAD 2.4 million better than last year, largely due to the impacts of higher graphene-enhanced product sales mix and manufacturing improvements. With regards to our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with CAD 27.6 million in cash and cash equivalent, a reduction of only CAD 1.4 million during the quarter.

Operating cash flows resulted in net inflows of CAD 2.4 million and were offset by CAD 3.8 million of financing and investing outflows, which included the final tranche repayment of CAD 1 million for the acquisition of Canuck Compounders . Our cash, along with the CAD 10.3 million of unused space on our lines of credit, resulted in total liquidity of CAD 37.9 million. Moving now to the financing of our five-year strategic plan. As a reminder, this does not cover the battery gigafactory initiative, which is being done separately and through different financing. Over the last two quarters, we have been in discussions with various lenders, including our current lenders. At the end of the quarter, we had received offers from three lenders. After negotiating terms, we selected the preferred lender and secured a committed term sheet from them.

As a result of the progress made thus far, we expect to put in place the new credit facility in the coming weeks. Once in place, the new credit facility will provide an important financial support toward our five-year strategic plan. Turning now to our fiscal year 2024. Despite the headwinds during the first half of the year, we remain confident the second half revenues will be stronger than our first half and stronger than last year's second half. With the recently announced awards, new customer tooling will be required for the new programs before production begins. In addition, the program expansion also recently announced, benefiting our Sainte-Clotilde plant, will also generate tooling revenues and higher sales volumes than those recognized last year.

Gross margins in the second half should be 100-150 basis points higher than the first half due to higher volumes, but be limited to this level due to the higher tooling revenues, which were sold at lower gross margins. Based on the visibility we have today, our guidance for full fiscal year 2024 remains at CAD 130 million. With that, I will pass it back to Pierre-Yves.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse
VP Corporate Development, NanoXplore

Thank you, Pedro. Operator, we can now open the lines for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question today comes from James McGarragle of RBC Capital Markets.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Hey, good morning, guys.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse
VP Corporate Development, NanoXplore

Good morning, James.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Good morning.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Yeah, so I just had a question on the outlook for our VoltaXplore, specifically. We've been hearing a number of electric vehicle battery manufacturers tapping the brakes on expansion. Most recently, Panasonic decided not to build an EV battery factory in Oklahoma. I guess from your perspective, are you seeing anything from either a demand or even potentially a cost perspective that has changed recently that could impact some of the long-term profitability assumptions for the buildup for VoltaXplore?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Not for us. The fact is we are in VoltaXplore. The target market is not purely EV batteries. We are looking at customers and applications for power cells and also for long-cycle life batteries for energy storage and grid storage, peak shaving applications. So technically, the bulk of the market of the batteries are in EVs and the middle part of the volume forecast. And then the batteries that we are working in, the markets we are playing at, are in the power cells, let's say military applications and power tools, plus the grid storage and peak shaving. These two parts of the market that Volta is playing at mostly, they're not seeing impacts similar to the EV market.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

I appreciate the color. Coming back to it, to NanoXplore on the long-term capacity expansion, you get some cadence surrounding the total CAPEX, but can you give an update on how you see that CAPEX spend evolving, in particular in the next two quarters and then into fiscal 2025 and into fiscal 2026?

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

I think that message came in.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Hey, guys, were you able to hear my question?

Operator

Please remain on the line. Your conference will begin shortly again.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Yeah.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Yeah, we're back.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Hey, it's James here. Were you able to hear my follow-up question there?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

No.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Can you repeat that question, please?

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Yeah. Yeah, so I was just asking on the long-term capacity expansion with regards to NanoXplore. You provided an update on the total CAPEX spend, but can you just give us an update on how you see that CAPEX evolving during the remainder of the year, potentially in the next two quarters and then into fiscal 2025 and into fiscal 2026, just so we can see how the cash flow will evolve over the next number of quarters?

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

So in the next two quarters at least, or even before the end of this calendar year, the CAPEX that is going to be spent is mainly going to be on the SMC, and we're waiting for the final credit facility to be in place. So that should be in the next few weeks. So before the end of the fiscal year, I expect maybe CAD 5 million, possibly up to CAD 7 million, of additional CAPEX that relates to that if everything goes well. And before the end of the year, the calendar year, there could be another CAD 5 million out again. So let's say CAD 5 million and CAD 5 million in the next two quarters and then two quarters after that.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Then into fiscal 2025 and 2026, would that just be kind of an even split for the remaining amount?

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Yeah, it'll probably be about CAD 3 million - CAD 5 million every two quarters after that.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Okay. And then on the loans for the new CAPEX, are you able to provide any color on interest rates or anything you'd call out that's attractive regarding the terms of those loans?

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

I can't go into specifics as we haven't finalized the agreements, but the interest rates on the committed term sheet that we've received are very similar to what we have today. It's based on a prime plus basis points depending on debt to EBITDA ratios, and they're very much in line with what we pay today. We wouldn't expect anything to explode in terms of interest costs or anything of that nature.

James McGarragle
Senior Equity Analyst, RBC

Okay. Thank you very much. I'll turn the line over.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Yeah.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Rupert Merer of National Bank.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

Hi. Good morning, everyone.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Hi, Rupert.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

Morning. I'd like to focus in on a couple of the materials in your five-year plan. If I could start with the SMC business, your original plan, you were looking at GBP 12 million per year, revenue potential of GBP 80 million. Have the goalposts on that part of the plan changed at all? And if you can give us a little more color about how this business develops, you have some long-term contracts. By the time you are ready to commercialize this business, what level of contracting would you anticipate?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

So just for me to understand, you're asking the question on the SMC part, or you're asking for the RBC?

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

On SMC. Yeah. That's right.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Just on SMC?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

No.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Okay. SMC, we expect once everything is in place, it'll probably drive between CAD 10 million and CAD 15 million a year of additional revenues depending on the adoption of the graphene-enhanced materials. This will grow over time, and our ability also to sell SMC materials to third parties will also be an additional amount. Our internal financial models do expect for there to be a strong third-party market for us to sell material into.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

So Rupert, yeah, just to clarify, when we talk about SMC, there's SMC materials, and there's SMC parts, right? So I think Pedro's answer was just on the SMC materials.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

I see. Okay. So the original plan was annual revenue potential of about CAD 80 million. Is that still consistent with the potential for this business? And how much of it do you think you will contract? We have seen some contracts already that you've announced, CAD 24 million per year, I believe. What percentage of the business will be contracted?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

In this business, historically, most of it is contracted. Pretty much all of the programs we have today, they are contracted, and the contracts will continue for.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Many years.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

10-15 years in many cases. Then there's new contracts and also expansion of the existing programs. So all in all, we still have, I think, I would say more than half of the new capacity that's coming allocated, but we adjust the CAPEX investments following the contract awards. So we're not just putting capacity in place and then going out and get customer for it. In that part of the market, demand is strong. We get the contracts, and then accordingly, we're putting CAPEX for it.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Yeah. About 60%-65% of our business today is contracted, leaving up the other part that is more dependent on customer purchases on a monthly basis. An important part of our total revenue is contracted and will go up and down based on the cadence of our customers' manufacturing.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

Great. Thank you. And then on the SiG pilot line, you have 100 tons per year of capacity, and you've given some more details on the relative performance of the material. I'm wondering if you can give us some color on the reception you're getting from the industry for this product and maybe talk a little about who you're targeting. Is it the same as VoltaXplore? Are you focusing on non-EV batteries here, or is this material more open to the broad market?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

So it's not just Volta. We're discussing the product is in the hands of a couple of battery makers now, and they're testing that. The target of this pilot facility was to get the product and do the validation with the battery makers. Now, in general, silicon additives are not really used for EVs, maybe at a very low concentration in the anode. The focus of silicon is to increase the capacity and energy density of batteries, so it gives much higher application, much more applications in military, in power tools, in drones, and those types of markets.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

Can you give us any color on the reception that you're getting for the product from the market?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Look, as we disclosed in the press release, we are getting 1,150 watt-hour per liter. This is one of the highest numbers recorded in the volumetric energy density. The battery makers are confirming as well these data. So there's interest to partner up with us on that material.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

And then just finally, then I imagine the SMC business, you'll let orders lead before you invest in the CAPEX to grow capacity?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Yeah. 100%. 100%.

Rupert Merer
Managing Director & Senior Equity Research Analyst, Sustainability & Clean Technology, National Bank Financial

All right. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Michael Glen of Raymond James.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Hey, good morning.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse
VP Corporate Development, NanoXplore

Morning, Michael.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Just wanted to circle back to the CAPEX question. So Pedro, you indicated that CAD 5 million - CAD 7 million before the end of this fiscal year and then an additional CAD 5 million, and then you talked about CAD 3 million - CAD 5 million every two quarters post. I'm just trying to what's the gap there? I mean, because the plan is CAD 150 million. When does the bulk of the CAD 150 million go out?

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Okay. So to be clear, my comments were based specifically on the SMC investments. So I'm only talking about that CAD 30 million part that relates to SMC. The related CAPEX for the anode materials investment will be at a later time. It'll be based on expectations of when the financing is fully in place, when we have offtake agreements. So it'll be dependent on that. So I can't give you a specific timeline other than once that occurs, we will come back to the market and let everybody know that we are starting this process. So right now, I would say it would be at least into 2025 before the investments would start.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Okay. Okay. So the bulk of that number is dependent on the VoltaXplore package whenever that gets announced?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

No, no, no, no, no, no[crosstalk]. VoltaXplore is only a part of the capacity for the anode material going to go there. The rest of the capacity will go to the other customers. So that's the offtake we're talking outside of VoltaXplore.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Yeah. Okay. And then, Soroush, as we think about how the NanoXplore business is evolving and you make more of these investments into SMC, should we think about this business evolving into predominantly a parts supplier for the mobility industry over time?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Not at all. If you look at our five-year plan, you see out of, let's say, CAD 140 million-CAD 150 million investment, two-thirds of it is outside of transportation. That's not at all evolving into an auto parts supply.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Okay. And then the SMC business wins that you're recording right now, are the customers paying a premium for these parts over and above what was supplied to them on a legacy basis?

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

I wouldn't say that they're paying a significant amount more. They are paying more for the parts, yes, but they're also getting a better benefit in terms of the materials and the quality of the materials that they're receiving. So there's an acceptance by the customer that they're getting a better product, and they're paying a little bit more for it.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Okay. And then one more for me. And you can correct me if I'm wrong when I heard this. There was a comment when you talked about the VoltaXplore financing update. I think, Soroush, you mentioned something about discussions with your lead investor or a lead investor. Is that what I understood?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Yeah. Due diligence with the lead investor.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Okay. That's not the lead investor. That's not your current lead investor. That's somebody else?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

No, Volta. It's somebody else. VoltaXplore lead investor, the investment is done outside of NanoXplore, so it's totally a different group.

Michael Glen
Senior Analyst, Transportation and Industrials, Raymond James

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Mac Whale of CSI.

Mac Whale
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, CSI

Hi. My questions have been asked, but I thought I'd follow up with just a broader question on the market for the high power outside of EVs. Those batteries, do they tend to have a higher margin? When you compare that, say, to the EV space, I'm just wondering, as we fine-tune our models, what we should be thinking about in terms of the sort of revenue per KWh or margin that you can get from that.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Yes. So well, first, our cell model is a raw material cost plus a lump sum. So it's a full transfer of the raw material, which is about 80% of the cost of production of the cell. Our lump sum covers the production cost plus the gross profit. So looking at power cells, they're normally, in terms of gross profit, are about 10%-15% higher on a per kilowatt-hour basis.

Mac Whale
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, CSI

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And there are technical reasons why you're looking at that market. Obviously, there's some commercial reasons as well. If we see these delays, as we spoke earlier in the call about the delays on the OEM side for rolling out capacity, is that an opportunity that you could go after if you saw particular contracts or opportunities, or do you just not want to be in that market for some of these issues around margin?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Yeah. Even to start with, we didn't want it to be in the EV market, in the direct EV market. For that, you need not a 2 GWh battery. You need a 50 GWh battery or more. It's a very competitive market. Raw material cost is becoming 95% of the cost of production. Just not enough margin for us to play. So from the beginning, we went after higher margin type batteries at the lower gigawatt-hour gigafactory, which you can actually absorb higher gross profit from them. But also, there's less competition in that part of the market. So if you look at the grid storage, even if you look at Tesla's financial, you see that grid storage part and residential batteries are even though they're not the highest selling part of their business, but the margins are just much better than the rest of the business.

We're looking at that high-end, high-margin part of the battery business, which requires much lower production volumes.

Mac Whale
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, CSI

That's great. Thanks. Thanks, Soroush.

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ahmad Shaath of Beacon Securities.

Ahmad Shaath
Senior Analyst, Beacon Securities

Good morning, guys. I guess most of my questions have been asked and answered. But maybe on the cost on the R&D side that is noticeable down quarter-over-quarter, is that by design? Should we expect that line to stabilize at around CAD 1 million or not much to take away there and historical trends are better?

Soroush Nazarpour
Founder and CEO, NanoXplore

I would say the R&D team came on the budget, so the budget was a bit higher. It's not designed to be lower. It just happened that the cost is coming lower. I think the team is being more optimized and efficient in terms of the investments. And at this point, it's slightly lower. We anticipate that as we grow into this SMC market, into a drilling fluid market, into the concrete market, some of these markets that are more newer for us, like drilling fluid and concrete, require a little bit more of R&D dollars. And SMC, which is more mature, requires less of R&D dollars. So I think. There is, in general, we will see R&D expenses staying at this level for a little bit, for a couple of years.

We will see how the graphene market as a whole evolves, and we're okay to increase our R&D expenditure if needed.

Pedro Azevedo
CFO, NanoXplore

Yeah. It's been a targeted approach. We've really nailed down in terms of what we wanted to be focused on, and that allowed us to reduce the R&D spend. But as Soroush said, as we kind of move on into other areas of interest to us, the R&D may increase in the future, but not for the next year.

Ahmad Shaath
Senior Analyst, Beacon Securities

That's really helpful. Thanks, guys. I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Pierre-Yves Terrisse for closing remarks.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse
VP Corporate Development, NanoXplore

Thank you, operator. We'd like to thank everyone for participating in this call, and we wish everyone a great day. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.

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