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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Mar 4, 2022

Operator

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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q3 2022 results conference call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Chantal Melanson. Please go ahead, Ms. Melanson.

Chantal Melanson
Executive Assistant, Major Drilling Group International

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. As mentioned, we would like to welcome you to Major Drilling's conference call for the Q3 of fiscal 2022. On the call, we will have Denis Larocque, President and CEO, and Ian Ross, our Chief Financial Officer. Our results were released yesterday after market close and can be found on our website at www.majordrilling.com. We also invite you to visit our website for further information. Before we get started, we'd like to caution you that during this conference call, we will be making forward-looking statements about future events or the future financial performance of the company. These statements are forward-looking in nature, and actual events or results may differ materially from those currently anticipated in such statements. I will now turn the presentation over to Denis Larocque. Please go ahead.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Thank you, Chantal. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Once again, I'm pleased to report that we are seeing strong evidence of an industry upcycle, most clearly demonstrated by Major Drilling's best Q3 performance in 10 years. In November, we saw elevated activity levels that continued well into December until the usual holiday shutdowns. Despite the Omicron variant causing minor delays, January got off to a much earlier start than in previous year and than expected. I must credit our teams that worked extremely hard and long hours over the holiday period to get rigs repaired and deployed in the field. Thank you for all your efforts to ensure continuity of operations for both Major Drilling and our customers.

We continued to see increased demand for our specialized services as customers turn to more challenging drill programs as the upcycle progresses. I'm really pleased to see that our proactive staff training and retention efforts have allowed us to support this early start to the year and deliver reliable service and value to our customers. Our strategy of holding rigs and inventory ready for immediate deployment to customers also continues to deliver results as the industry deals with supply chain disruptions. During the quarter, we benefited from both new contracts and contract renewals with incrementally favorable terms, which more than offset the impacts of our annual maintenance and overhaul work carried out over the holiday period. Inflationary headwinds continue to impact our industry on both the labor and supply fronts.

However, we have made mitigation efforts through our new contracts and renewals that have taken this into account and don't expect to see impacts on margins in the near term. With all of this in place, we were able to grow our EBITDA by 110% and turn a profit of CAD 5.7 million in a traditionally slow quarter. With that, Ian will walk us through the quarter's financials, and then, I'll come back to discuss the outlook. Ian?

Ian Ross
CFO, Major Drilling Group International

Thanks, Denis. Revenue for the quarter was CAD 138.8 million, up 38% from revenue of CAD 100.4 million recorded in the same quarter last year as drill programs continued later into December and started up early in January in our biggest regions. The unfavorable foreign exchange translation impact on revenue for the quarter when comparing to the effective rates for the same period last year was approximately CAD 3 million with a minimal impact on net earnings. We are pleased to see continued year-over-year top line growth as the company has demonstrated the ability to respond to customer demands amidst favorable market conditions. The overall gross margin percentage for the quarter, excluding depreciation, was 24.2%, compared to 20.3% for the same period last year.

Margins are typically lower in the Q3 due to seasonal slowdowns and significant scheduled maintenance. However, this year there was less impact in North America as many drill programs minimized their holiday shutdown plans. Australasia encountered a typical seasonal slowdown, while the South and Central American region was negatively impacted by seasonality as well as ramp-up costs in certain jurisdictions as activity levels began to recover from the impacts of the pandemic. G&A costs were CAD 14.1 million, an increase of CAD 2.4 million compared to the same quarter last year. The increase was driven by the addition of Australian operations, inflationary wage adjustments, and the resumption of some travel as COVID-19 restrictions loosened in most jurisdictions. The income tax provision for the quarter was CAD 1.3 million, compared to nil for the prior year period.

The increase in the income tax expense was related to an overall growth in profitability. Net earnings were CAD 5.7 million or CAD 0.07 per share for the quarter compared to a net loss of CAD 1.5 million or CAD 0.02 per share for the prior year quarter. EBITDA was CAD 18.4 million compared to CAD 8.7 million in the prior year quarter. Strong EBITDA growth in the quarter versus the same quarter last year is a direct result of the increased activity level and illustrates the operational leverage potential as revenue levels continue to grow.

The quarter saw strong cash generation as the balance sheet remains a competitive advantage for us in the industry. After taking on debt to complete the McKay acquisition in June 2021, we are pleased to see the return to a net cash position of CAD 6.1 million after generating CAD 36 million in cash during the quarter. We have achieved this cash generation while spending CAD 12.2 million on capital expenditures during the quarter, adding 5 new drill rigs and support equipment for existing rigs being deployed in the field. We also disposed of eight older, less efficient rigs, bringing the total rig count to 600. In order to respond to current market demand and stay out of supply chain challenges, we expect to take possession of at least eight drills next quarter. These rigs will be immediately deployed in the field.

The new breakdown of our fleet and utilization factoring in seasonality is as follows. 302 specialized drills at 44% utilization. 117 conventional drills at 40% utilization. 181 underground drills at 56% utilization for a total of 600 drills at 47% utilization. As mentioned before, specialized work in our definition is not necessarily conducted with a specialized drill. Rather, it is work that requires that we meet the rigorous standards of our customers in terms of technical capabilities, operational and safety standards, and other related factors. Over time, we expect these standards to be increasingly important to our customers. In the Q3 , revenue from specialized work accounted for 62% of our total revenue, down slightly from the previous quarter, but specialized work is typically prone to more seasonality.

We expect this percentage to grow moving forward as we continue to see increased demand for our specialized services. Conventional drilling made up 10% of our revenue for the quarter, mainly driven by the increased demand for work from junior mining companies. Finally, underground drilling revenue was up slightly compared to last quarter at 28% of total revenue. Underground projects typically have less seasonality as most operating mines minimize their holiday shutdowns to keep producing. Juniors continue to raise money to fund their drilling programs, evidenced by our evolving revenue mix. They now account for 28% of our revenue in the quarter as many juniors kept drilling late into December. Senior and intermediates make up the remaining 72%. In terms of commodities, gold projects represented 54% of our revenue, while copper was at 16%.

We continue to see gold dominate our revenue mix while copper lags slightly from historic norms. We've seen an increase in our nickel revenue in recent months as the need for battery metals continues to provide strong tailwinds for the industry. With that overview on our financial results, I'll now turn the presentation back to Denis to discuss the outlook.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Thanks, Ian. The early start to operations we saw in January provides a strong indication of increased activity as we moved into the calendar 2022, which is reinforcing the market backdrop and pointing to exciting times ahead for us at Major Drilling. Going forward, we expect our new pricing to offset cost inflation and costs of supply and labor, while competition for skilled drilling crews is still a challenge across the industry, particularly in the most operationally intense markets. Supply chains continue to face disruptions in many industries around the world, but are magnified in the drilling industry as it enters a rapid growth phase. However, our strategy of using Major Drilling's strong balance sheet to stockpile inventory early has allowed us to stay ahead of delays on consumables, which keeps drills turning for our customers. We have experienced some minor delays on new drill orders.

However, as we've been proactive in placing orders, we've minimized the impact and have seen no effect on the business. We are seeing most senior companies increasing their definition drilling efforts on existing discoveries on both gold and base metals. As well, the amount of financing raised over the last 12 months by junior companies, we've seen, a considerable increase in exploration activity by these customers as the mining industry continues to try and replace depleting reserves. As of today, there are numerous positive drivers influencing the outlook for Major Drilling and the wider industry.

When you look at things like the gold price that is at high levels as reserves remain low and mining companies continue to struggle to replace resource depletions, you've got copper prices that have more than doubled over the last two years and have recently reached all-time highs at a time where the world is accelerating its efforts towards decarbonization, which will require an enormous amount of copper, which won't help solve the projected supply deficit. Nickel prices are up more than 40% over the last year as the world races to secure supplies for electric vehicle batteries. You've got the lack of exploration throughout the recent industry downturn that has led to depleting reserves. Finally, it takes 10-15 years to bring a mine into production, while new mineral deposits will come from areas more difficult to access, which will require more specialized drilling.

With all these fundamentals in place, the outlook for the company and the pricing environment through our fiscal Q4 and beyond remain extremely encouraging. Finally, Kelly Johnson, Senior Vice President Operations for North America and Africa, has announced his long-planned intention to retire in June of this year. Mr. Johnson will retain his position as Senior Vice President, continuing to assist in the strategic management of operations of the company until June, after which he will provide valuable consulting services to the company. Kelly started in the drilling industry in 1978 with Midwest Drilling until its acquisition by Major Drilling in 1998. He held a broad range of leadership roles across the company's operations.

With a career that spans more than four decades with the company, his leadership has made a significant contribution to Major Drilling's success, and he has certainly left his mark on the industry through his experience and knowledge. Kelly has been a mentor to many in the company, including myself, and his influence has made a lasting impact on generations of people. He leaves us both with an impressive managed leadership team, fully prepared to respond to future challenges and to meet the increasing expectations of our loyal customers. Going forward, the regional management of North America will be reporting directly to the CEO. With that, we can open the call to questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now take questions from the telephone lines. If you have a question, please press star one on the device's keypad. There will be a brief pause while the participants register. We thank you for your patience. The first question is from Daryl Young from TD Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Daryl Young
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Morning, gentlemen, and congrats on a good quarter.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Thank you.

Daryl Young
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

First question is around the capital discipline by some of the senior miners that we're seeing and commitment there to manage margins. Are you seeing any pushback on pricing, or is that. It sounds like you're able to get cost increases pushed through. Secondly, has it changed the way they're bidding jobs with drillers? Are they looking for longer term contracts or anything there, any color you can provide there?

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Yeah. Well, first on, in terms of, you talk about cost discipline and everything. What we're seeing in our discussions is not as much a focus on price anymore, more about delivering service. There's been last year there's a few companies, well, many companies that weren't able to achieve the amount of drilling they wanted to do when they started the year for different reasons. Either, I mean, you had COVID, but also, either they didn't have the quality they needed or things like that. This year, that explains the early start for one, because they wanna make sure they get the drilling that their drilling budgets drilled.

When we have discussions this round, the discussions have been more with operational people than it's been with the purchasing department. Really, that's been really good because we're having conversations about, you know, getting the job done and that's the main focus, which really helps. It's not just pricing. It helps on the productivity as well because then you get full cooperation and you get the best results for both. That reduces when things go well and productivity is good. It reduces their overall cost because they get more meters per their dollars. From that perspective, I wouldn't say that there's been a pressure on pricing.

It's been more, like I say, more about working together to deliver. In terms of looking for long-term, it was more early on when pricing was better, we were getting requests to lock those prices for five years because they knew what was coming. Lately we do get those conversations, but those conversations again are not necessarily about price. It's about, okay, can I make sure I'm gonna have these rigs for the next two years? Because I've got lots to do, and I wanna make sure I'm gonna have the rigs. It's more those types of conversations in terms of long-term than pricing.

Daryl Young
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Gotcha. Okay. Just one other question with regards to greenfield exploration budgets. Tracking some of the senior gold exploration budget, it looks like they're relatively flat year-over-year. Can you just give us a little bit more color on where some of the really robust demand is coming from? We're certainly seeing it across the entire industry. All the drillers are seeing it, but just trying to reconcile the gold, the flat gold budgets with the really robust outlook.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Yeah. On pure greenfield exploration, you're right. The seniors from the looks of it didn't increase their effort by much going into calendar 2022. What we're seeing is, we're adding rigs to existing projects on definition, on defining existing projects that they have, and they're ramping up their efforts in terms of trying to bring mines into production over the next few years. That's where the drilling efforts are going on the senior side. We're seeing an uptick on that side. That side, when they get going, it's more intense, and it takes years to define deposits and things like that. That's one part of the uptick that we're seeing.

Ian gave you the numbers, juniors is up 28%. Just a year ago, we were below 20% of our revenue, of our total revenue on a much smaller revenue number. Therefore, juniors are doing a lot more as well, and because they've raised money and they're going out. They're gonna be the ones that are gonna add to the exploration. When S&P Global come out with their numbers for 2022 in a year from now, I suspect that it's gonna be much higher in terms of growth of exploration dollars, much higher than what seniors have been projecting, because the juniors are gonna pick up the slack on that, on that part.

Daryl Young
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Got it. Okay. That's terrific. I'll turn the call over to someone else. Thanks, guys.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from James Vail, from Arcadia Advisors. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Good morning, gentlemen. Good quarter.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Mark, Jim.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Danny.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Thank you.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

I'm well, thank you. You talk about availability more key. You talk about lack of new copper supply, gold, et cetera. It seems to me this cycle is setting you up to have extremely better margins than you did in the last upcycle. Is that a reasonably good assumption?

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

I mean, we're still a long way from where we were in 2012 in terms of the peak of the cycle. The outlook, when you look, it takes. Again, the key is it takes 10-15 years to bring a mine into production. That's the part that you need to look at, and we're still only in year, like, two of this upcycle. The last upcycle that went from 2004 to 2012 really, you know, lasted eight-nine years.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Okay.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

There's a long runway ahead of us, but I won't give you that. There's certainly a possibility of us having better margins than the last peak. At this point, our margins are already better than they were in the second year of the last upcycle. That's. I'll let you draw your own conclusion on what that could be for the future.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Great. Just a second question. You went through the utilization rates of all your different rigs. In all practicality, what is the highest utilization you can get to? I mean, you can't go to 100%, but is 47%-

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Yeah.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Is there a lot left to go in from these numbers, or are you getting close to where you're essentially at full utilizations?

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Yeah. We've always said the highest utilization, the way we count utilization, because not everybody counts it the same way. The way we count utilization is if a rig is earning its keep. Every quarter you have rigs that are moving around, being mobilized, demobilized, plus we have rigs that are in the Arctic that will only work six months of the year. For those reasons, 75% is kind of the max. At the very peak when there was nothing available, we were at 78%.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Okay.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

That's the highest we've ever achieved, and I think that's the highest that we can probably achieve as a utilization. The 47% is, well, for the Q3 , so this was lower than what we had in the previous two quarters. Also, you know, it's indicative of, you know, we've entered the quarter with that 47%, but things are picking up week by week and, you know. I think you're gonna see that utilization keep growing as we go through the year.

James Vail
Analyst, Arcadia Advisors

Great. Okay. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, please press star one on the device's keypad if you have a question. The next question is from Maggie MacDougall, from Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Morning.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Good morning.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Must ask the question if you've got any exposure to Eastern Europe that we should be aware of, or that we should, you know, be thinking through if there's a supply chain effect from that or anything of that nature, because clearly a really difficult situation in that part of the world right now.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Yeah. Very unfortunate what's going on there. On our part, we don't see much impact on our operations. We don't have any operations in Russia or Eastern Europe. Our closest operation would be in Mongolia, which is a small operation for us. Even there, the supplies are coming from other directions that should not be impacted from what's going on.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Mm-hmm.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

For us, we don't see, unless things change in the world, then all bets are off. We don't see an impact on our operation.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Okay. Thanks. It sounds as though you are in a great position, as a few people have highlighted here, on the demand side and with regards to pricing, given commodity inflation and you know, just generally a lack of new reserve additions over the last decade. On the flip side, we are seeing fuel costs at almost back to peak levels last seen in 2006, 2007. It's possible that they overshoot just, you know, with what's going on in the world.

I'm wondering on the consumable side, the fuel side, and against, you know, a backdrop of the constructive discussions you've been having with your clients, are you at all thinking ahead about how to position yourself in the event that inflation in inputs does become somewhat out of control and perhaps begins to outpace pricing?

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Yeah. On the fuel side, we have escalation clauses specific to fuel in all of our contracts. In a lot of cases, the fuel is supplied by the mine themselves. That one shouldn't be an issue going forward. On the consumables, we started the year expecting inflation on consumables with everything going on, and our last round of pricing is reflective of that. We do have escalation clauses in there as well, should it go beyond a certain percentage. We have mechanism to sit down with our customers and revise our pricing.

Right now, when we say that we've renewed contracts with favorable terms, those are the terms that in the downturn we were not able to get in our contracts, whereas now we're able to put escalation clauses to make sure that we're covered for things like that.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Okay. Good. When you look out around at your competitors, you know, how do you feel going into this type of environment? It does seem as though you have prepared for the upcycle for some time, both in terms of inventory, just getting the fleet ready and with the balance sheet that you've maintained in a very clean shape. Do you think that there will be some who find themselves kind of stuck lacking inventory, perhaps without appropriate pricing pass-throughs? I wouldn't mind hearing your comments on that because it does seem like, you know, you may be in a strong competitive position both for organic market share gains, but then also if you were to see someone sort of struggling for some tuck-in acquisitions.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Well, on the supply, we're seeing issues in terms of delays on everything, which is why we stocked up. We have that buffer. The way we operate is we're not letting that buffer go. In other words, as we take something off the shelf, we place an order to replace on the shelf to replace that buffer. That's how we're managing. If you don't have that buffer and you have to put rigs in the field, it's quite a struggle right now because there's delays on everything.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Mm-hmm.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Then you have to wait, which to your point, I think it is a great competitive advantage by having that extra inventory on hand. On the acquisition front or, I mean, we get, we just like before we continue to get phone calls from companies, for the most part, they're the small private companies looking to sell. For us, it always comes down to quality of equipment. It needs to fit our strategy, specialize or on the ground or, and also, you know, it needs to have good people that comes with it. For us, that's what we look at. Also there's sometimes also valuation.

We've had people, they tend to have big valuation because they wanna sell on the future. For us, there needs to be something for our shareholders if we're gonna make those. That's all I'm gonna say. I mean, we get those phone calls on a regular basis. We've been getting those for the last three years, and it's just when the time is right, when it makes sense, then we sit down and look at it. Right now, McKay is the last one that made sense for us.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Yeah. Last question for me. I'm watching the 10-year yield fall like a stone today. You know, we've talked a lot about how the base metals copper cycle is potentially gonna be the big one. However, it looks like in the near term, gold could be a really good place to be. What has been sort of the scuttlebutt amongst your client base? Are you seeing more activity in one versus the other?

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Interestingly, I would have thought that moving into 2022, we'd see a bigger uptick on base metal. Gold has kept up with base metal in terms of the demand or the increased demand that we've seen going into this year or so. Pretty much all commodities are doing more. They all have reserve issues because they've all cut back on exploration through the last six years. I wouldn't say that there's one more than the other these days. They're all busy going out looking for stuff at the moment.

Maggie MacDougall
Vice Chairman and Head of Research, Stifel

Okay. Well, thanks so much for your time. I will get back in the queue if I have further questions.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions registered at this time. I will turn the call back to Monsieur Larocque. Sorry. Yes.

Denis Larocque
President and CEO, Major Drilling Group International

Okay. Thank you. We'll be talking next quarter.

Operator

Thank you. The conference has now ended. Please disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.

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