Good morning. My name is Kecia and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Spin Master Corporation's Second Quarter Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.
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Thank you, Keisha. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Spin Master's financial results conference call for the second quarter ended 06/30/2020. I am joined this morning by Renan Harari, Co CEO and Mark Siegel, Spin Master's Chief Financial Officer. For your convenience, the press release, MD and A and unaudited interim consolidated statements for the second quarter twenty twenty are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at spinmaster.com and on SEDAR. Before we begin, please note the remarks on this conference call may contain forward looking statements about Spin Master's current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements or any other future events or developments.
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Currency. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Renaud.
Thanks, Sofia. Good morning, and thanks for joining us today. On behalf of Spin Master, I hope that you are staying healthy and safe. We are incredibly proud of our team who have remained committed through these unprecedented times. We're making meaningful progress towards resolving our operational challenges and at the same time mitigating the impact of COVID on our business and our customers.
COVID has brought our people together, and for a global company such as ours, it has in many areas increased productivity, collaboration, and creativity. This quarter reflects our commitment and the power of having built a diversified portfolio of brands, entertainment franchises, and digital games. In Q1, we felt the impact of COVID on our supply chain in Asia and through retail shutdowns towards the March. Throughout the entire second quarter, we felt the effects of both the retail disruptions caused by COVID as a significant number of our customers were shut down or in online only mode as well as the supply chain disruptions that began in q one in Asia. In the second quarter, families with kids home from school continue to look for ways to keep them engaged, and toys and games are an ideal way to do so.
As a result, the early part of q two was dominated by sales of stay at home activities as well as outdoor, which grew significantly later in the quarter. Our gross product sales were down 10.9% in Q2, which exceeded our expectations. Sales in North America were up slightly as our largest customers remained open through the quarter. We saw strong demand for home based products from our activities, games and puzzles and outdoor segments, all of which grew in the quarter. Global toy industry POS grew double digits in Q2, highlighting the resilient nature of the industry, especially the value of toys as low price entertainment for kids when other forms of entertainment are unavailable.
Mark will provide you with detailed POS data in a few minutes. We remain unsatisfied with the level of our profitability due to both the impact of COVID and the carryover of the challenges we experienced in the 2019. We are focused on improving profitability as 2020 progresses and into 02/2021. COVID has led to a series of rapid and dramatic changes in how we conduct business. Our top priorities remain the health and safety of our team, and we've instituted several protocols to ensure that they are safe while also remaining productive at work from home environments.
We continue to balance multiple dimensions of our global response, focusing on employees' well-being and safety, workforce engagement and productivity, business continuity and health, and finally, ensuring that we continue to live up to our core values. Currently, many of our offices around the world have reopened in China and Vietnam. Our offices are fully operational. In Hong Kong and India, our offices are in a work from home mode. And in Europe, our offices have now opened with employees rotating between office and home.
In North America, our Toronto and New York offices have opened in a phased approach with an emphasis on functions such as product development and packaging, where touching the physical product is beneficial. In LA and Mexico City, where COVID cases remained elevated, our offices remained closed. The situation is fluid, and we are prepared to readjust quickly to changing circumstances. As a result of the COVID outbreak in China in our first quarter, where sixty percent to 65% of our manufacturing capacity is located, We saw some disruption in product flow through Q2, but our Asian supply chain team did an outstanding job at limiting the impact in Q2 as much as possible. From a manufacturing perspective, we are currently operating at normal capacity for the 2020 when we sell approximately 70% of our annual volume and do not expect any material COVID related supply chain interruptions.
It's now been nearly five months since consumer demand for our products was affected by COVID. Stay at home protocols meant that many of our retail customers were closed for the entire second quarter. Given this disruption, we are fortunate to be operating in an industry that has that has held held up better than originally expected and better than many others. We believe the macro trend of families spending more time at home with their children, coupled with the fact they cannot spend on movies, theme parks, and travel has helped their industry and lifted certain categories. Categories that benefit from people spending time together continue to be in very strong demand, including games and puzzles and arts and crafts.
According to NPD, games and puzzles is the fastest growing super category in 02/2020. This category has been a focus of ours for over ten years. We're the number two player in the industry with a 4% US market share. In addition to games and puzzles, the activities category performed extremely well as we continue to see exceptional sales increase in Kinetic Sand, with the entire line benefiting from stay at home guidelines. POS grew triple digits this quarter with existing and new customers discovering the endless creative possibilities and sensory play that Kinetic Sand provides.
We believe that demand for these categories will continue to be strong throughout 2020. Whereas games, puzzles, and activities are benefiting from the pandemic environment, other categories across the industry suffered in q two. Purchases driven by school, social activities, and group play environments, including events such as birthdays, have declined, given kids have more limited opportunities to socialize. Most significantly impacted is the collectibles and action figure category, which as a super category has declined 18% this year according to NPD. However, we are seeing these categories begin to grow as stores and communities reopen in various geographies.
From a channel perspective, we are fortunate that in North America, which represents over 60% of our gross product sales, Walmart, Target and Amazon continued normal ordering patterns. Specialty and other retail closures shifted buying towards these big box retailers and pushed shopping online. The strong surge we saw in Q1 in e commerce continued throughout the second quarter. We estimate that approximately 2025% of our total sales in Q2 were through e commerce channels, and we expect this to be over 30% in q four. Our global scale with 28 offices around the world, combined with our diversified and innovative product capabilities, has represented a valuable asset in the current environment.
COVID has affected geographic regions in different ways and at different times. While we saw dips in consumer traffic in some of our markets during lockdown periods, others returned to normal consumer behavior, minimizing the overall impact. We have encouraged you to think of Spin Master not only as a toy company, but as an integrated entertainment business producing toys, entertainment content, and interactive digital toys and games. With kids at home all day and parents being more flexible screen time, we've seen a strong increase in the demand for entertain for our entertainment content and digital gaming. Our entertainment team is working with our third party animation studios to keep production of all our TV shows and movies on schedule.
We are not experiencing any production delays. It is much easier to keep on track with animated content, which lends itself more to work from home environment as compared to live action content. In late June, the first episode of the new Paw Patrol theme for 2020 Dino Rescue premiered. In the two to five age category, we garnered strong ratings, and with boys specifically, we saw the highest ratings since the Mighty Pups special in January. We're very pleased to see the premier also attracted older audiences in the six to eleven age category, which bodes well for our movie release next year.
Overall, PAW Patrol's Dine and Rescue ranked as the number one show on television in q two amongst preschoolers. We remain on track to deliver the Paw Patrol movie in August 21 as planned. We continue to build our library of content, including exciting new preschool franchise, Might Express, which will debut on Netflix this September 22. Might Express features cast of trains and kids in an expansive world filled with amazing adventures. This launch is another example of our ability to push the boundaries of quality children's entertainment.
Might Express, which represents an evergreen play pattern that has resonated with kids worldwide, is our biggest production to date and marks our first series launching directly on a streaming platform. Mighty Express toys will launch in fall twenty one following the global entertainment rollout. The Mighty Express marks are shipped for us as we will as we are taking a full franchise approach, and we will hold the rights for all consumer products, not just toys. The franchise strategy will allow us to improve the margins we make on non toy licensing and merchandising revenue streams. In addition, we secured the global mass toy license for DreamWorks Animation, the new animated preschool series, Gabby Dollhouse, which is set to debut globally on Netflix later this year.
Beginning fall twenty one, we will bring characters from the show to life through a new toy line that will include play sets, figures, plush, games, and puzzles. Gabby is an exciting addition to our growing portfolio, and we continue to focus our strategy on establishing ourselves as a global leader in the character based preschool category. Our digital games offering, including Toca Boca and Sago Mini, continues to experience significantly increased demand with parents looking for ways to educate and entertain their children at home. Toca Boca now has over 22,000,000 monthly active users, and Sago Mini now has over a 185,000 subscribers from the Sago Mini World, Sago Mini School, and Sago Mini Subscription Box platforms compared to just over a 100,000 in q two last year. In early twenty twenty one, we are planning to launch a new Toca Boca subscription box targeted at five to nine year olds as well as our first multiplayer game, Toca Days.
As part of the Bakugan franchise, in November, we're launching the Bakugan Champions of Destroyer, a new game for Nintendo Switch in conjunction with Warner Brothers and game developers Way Forward. I wanna briefly update you on the operational challenges we encountered last year, and Mark will add more details later. We're already seeing the benefits of the remediation efforts we discussed in q one, and we are gaining momentum. We've focused on consolidation, realignment, and simplification while ensuring we remain sufficiently agile to respond to the evolving industry and retail environment. One of the issues we had last year was that we created increased complexity by stocking the same SKUs in multiple locations.
We have now implemented a one SKU, one location strategy. Our goal is to improve operational efficiency to the point where the run rate of our cost structure is closer to the level we saw in 02/2018. We've used the process of addressing our 2019 operational challenges to build a continuous improvement mindset, which has become embedded in our organization globally. We plan to continue to drive operational efficiencies in every area globally. We're doing deeper and more proactive planning for 2021 earlier and more detailed than ever before.
We have also improved accountability over every line of t and l and are building operational procedures to ensure that we manage more consistently globally. We're always on the lookout for accretive m and a opportunities to support our organic growth strategy. We continue to apply a disciplined approach to assessing all opportunities. In the toy area, where the industry remains highly fragmented beyond the 10 large manufacturers, pressure on smaller suppliers supports our view that there will be opportunities over the next one to two years. We're also increasing increasingly focused on our entertainment and digital areas for m and a opportunities.
If we execute properly, our operational efficiencies combined with our capital structure and our M and A strategy will allow us to reinvest the cash we generate into the business in order to accelerate growth. From a market perspective, COVID has given rise to several challenges in consumer behavior, some of which we believe will be enduring and which are influencing our strategy. Personal safety will play an important role in future consumer behavior as consumers look to lessen the amount of time they spend shopping in stores. We anticipate more controlled foot traffic in stores, shorter, more mission focused trips, potentially without kids, and fewer opportunities for impulse purposes in store. We are seeing more parent driven decision making from the shift to ecommerce.
We expect the shift to ecommerce to continue and to represent around 30% or more of q four POS. Many customers who set up accounts with online retailers will likely find it easier to continue buying online. According to industry research, post COVID, 69% of shoppers expect to shop online and pick up curbside. 64% expect to shop online and pick up in store, and 37% expect to shop online for home delivery. Click and collect has become an increasingly popular method of purchasing toys.
This is helping Walmart and Target in particularly drive growth. Post pandemic world will have shoppers more focused on value and efficiency with greater sophistication in online buying and price sensitivity. That's good news for deep discounts and big box retailers that offer products from a wider range of categories at lower prices. We observed an increase in screen time where the content is being consumed continues to shift away from linear TV towards SVOD, gaming, and YouTube. Linear TV ratings are down 29% year to date and are expected to be down over 30% for 02/2020.
In response to all of the above, we wanna create a seamless shopping experience using digital tools and data to gain better insight on shoppers and guide them through the path to purchase. We will focus more on parents, gift givers, and shoppers with shopper focused messaging in store and shopper specific digital social and search marketing driven driving to ecom. Our fall marketing mix will see will see lower spend on linear TV and an increase in our mix of digital comprising social, influencer, and ecommerce. In addition, social distancing measures have resulted in fewer physical gatherings, which in turn have decreased our experiential marketing spending. Not only have we shifted spend, we've also built internal capabilities with deep expertise and changed our approach to increase productivity.
We've done this by moving our digital buying in house and establishing new marketing growth teams focusing on d to c and our spin channel network. Finally, we will build flexibility in real time optimization plans into our strategy to allow us to shift in season as needed. These challenges have positioned us to create marketing as as innovative as our toys, entertainment, and digital games, which you'll see come to life this fall. Looking forward to the fall season from a product perspective, we are excited about our innovation across multiple categories. The RC team has several innovative items, including the animal, motorized truck that embosses itself, in which kids can repeat over and over, as well as the new Monster Jam, Megalodome Storm, the RC truck for both land and water.
Our robotics team has developed Hatchimals crystal flyers, a Hatchimal Pixie that the kids can fly and control with their hands. The activity team continues to raise the bar on the DIY products and building on the success of Go Glam nail stamper, which we are launching a new deluxe version. This fall. The toy line from a new PAW Patrol Dino rescue theme, including the Dino Patroller, our first ever motorized preschool vehicle, has been very well received by retailers. This innovation complements our existing strong and diversified lineup, including Bakugan, Kinetic Sand, Games and Puzzles, Monster Jam, DC Outdoor, and many others.
To conclude, we remain very confident in our ability to create excitement and magic for children globally through the strength of our diversified portfolio of products, brands, entertainment franchises, and digital offerings. However, we need to balance our confidence against critical macro unknowns, including a potential second wave of COVID, uncertainty of spending around the US election, and the duration of fiscal stimulus packages in our key markets. Overall, our strategic direction, our solid financial foundation, and diverse geographic platform, combined with the commitment of our global teams, positions us to take advantage of the evolving opportunities and drive long term success. I will now turn over the call to Mark.
Thanks, Renan. Looking back to when we spoke in May, second quarter sales and demand came in stronger than we expected. Gross product sales declined by 10.9% in the quarter to 282,200,000.0, which included a favorable foreign exchange impact of 3,400,000.0. On a constant currency basis, gross product sales declined 12%. We generated revenue of 281,100,000.0 in Q2, which was down 12.4% from the same period last year and down 13.4% on a constant currency basis.
On a geographic basis, North America was the strongest region with gross product sales of $2.00 4,000,000 up slightly compared to last year. This was a strong performance under the circumstances. As Ronen noted, we saw a continued shift away from collectibles and action figures in favor of activities and games and puzzles. Growth in North America was led by games and puzzles, Kinetic Sand, Outdoor, and DC licensed products. Offsetting the strong performance from these brands were declines in Dragons, Hatchimals, Bakugan, Paw Patrol, and Gund.
In Europe, gross product sales declined 21.6% to just under 50,000,000, and in the rest of the world, gross product sales declined 42.4% to 28,500,000.0. Many of these markets saw a larger negative impact on consumer activity as a result of COVID in North America for two reasons. Firstly, many do not have sufficiently broad e commerce adoption to offset store closures. Secondly, many of these markets have a much larger specialty toy component compared to North America, where mass retailers are more dominant. Although product lines, Bakugan, Dragons, and Paw Patrol were most significantly affected, our newly launched DC line partially offset this weakness.
In the quarter, international gross product sales represented approximately 28% of total gross product sales, down from 36% in 2019. The relative strength in North America during COVID was the key driver. The Activities, Games and Puzzles and Plush segment led our gross product sales growth for the quarter, increasing 19.2%. According to NPD, The U. S.
Games and puzzles market was up 46% year over year. We benefited from this with particular strength in our cardinal games and puzzles portfolio. In activities, we are seeing exceptional growth in Kinetic Sand, which doubled this quarter over last year. Plush, which comprises Gund, has, however, been disproportionately affected by COVID since its business is largely driven by US specialty stores, most of whom were not open in q two. Gross product sales in preschool and girls declined by 22.9%.
Paw Patrol, which was down for the quarter, remains among the top 10 properties in the toy industry, but was under pressure from the COVID driven reduction in birthday parties and other events driven sales. We are currently seeing this start to shift, and I will provide details on PAW Patrol POS performance shortly. We saw a significant decline in gross product sales in the Boys Action and Construction segment, which was down 30.5%. As Ronnen noted and as we called out in May, the industry wide shift towards stay at home games, puzzles and activities came at the expense of other categories, most notably action figures and collectibles, which rely on social interaction. The decline was driven by dragons, which was expected as it's in a post full year, as well as Bakugan, partially offset by sales of DC licensed products and Tech Tech.
The Remote Control and Interactive Characters segment continued to decline and was down 25.4%, driven by lower sales of Hatchimals, Juno and Lavavela. These declines were partially offset by increases in Monster Jam RC and PAW Patrol RC. Monster Jam RC was up despite large scale live event cancellations. Gross product sales in our outdoor segment rose by 9.1% as parents looked to get their kids active outside and in pools and on beaches as the weather warmed up. Let's now look at POS.
The global toy industry grew mid double digits in q two. Globally, our POS in q two exceeded the industry growth rate and was up 18%. We are very pleased with this performance as it demonstrates that our brands are resonating with consumers and is a testament to our product diversification strategy. In The US, our POS for Q2 rose 23%, in line with the industry growth rate. Looking at h one, according to NPD, POS for the global toy industry grew 9%.
Globally, our h one POS was up 14%. In The US, our POS for h one was up 15% compared to 16% for The US industry. However, if the outdoor and sports category, where we have a limited presence relative to size of the industry is excluded, our POS was up 15% and the industry was up 11%. Industry POS is strong, but retailers are remaining cautious replenishing inventory, resulting in POS exceeding shipments and retail inventory levels being drawn down. In the 2020, as is typically the case, we expect to see a rebalancing between shipments and POS as retailers replenish channel inventory.
The scale of this replenishment will likely be affected by macro factors, including global back to school decisions, which could emphasize stay at home and educational play categories, especially if online or hybrid school models emerge. In The US, Paw Patrol POS recovered in Q2 to negative 1% from negative 17% year over year in Q1 and reducing the year to date decline to negative 10% year over year. The Ultimate Fire Truck performed well with Q2 POS growing 12% year over year. In store displays at Walmart and Target supported the recovery in Q2 as more customers returned to stores. Outside of The US, PAW showed POS growth in Q2 in markets such as France, Benelux, and Australia.
PAW Patrol is currently rebounding strongly with high teen POS growth in most markets. Kinetic Sand continues to show triple digit year over year POS growth. And we're starting to see an overall strong rebound in European POS, especially in France, The UK, and Germany, driven by growth in PAW Patrol and other core brands. We are fortunate to have strong retail partners such as Walmart, Target, and Amazon, which remained open during the worst of the lockdown and have picked up a larger share of consumer spending. Target and Walmart comprised approximately 50% of our global volume in Q2, including Amazon, our next largest customer globally, our top three represented 60% of global volume in Q2.
Turning back to the P and L, sales allowances increased to 10.5 of gross product sales compared to 8.3% last year. The main driver of the year over year increase was higher non compliance charges from customers related to our 2019 performance issues. This was offset to some extent by a shift in geographic sales mix towards North America, which has a lower sales environment sales allowance environment. Although these charges are higher compared to Q2 twenty nineteen, we are steadily making progress in remediating the underlying causes of these charges and are seeing significant sequential improvements over Q1 when sales allowances were over 15%. Non compliance charges are a key part of our efforts to improve operational performance in 2020 and beyond.
On a year to date basis, sales allowances are 12.7%, which is approximately where we expect to be for the full year. Other revenue, which primarily reflects licensing and merchandising royalties, television distribution revenue and app revenue, declined by €2,000,000 or 6.3% in Q2. The decline resulted from lower licensing and merchandising royalties, which was offset by increased app revenue from Tokaboka and Sago Mini as we continue to ramp up our digital games business. Gross profit for the quarter was 118,200,000.0 or 42% of revenue compared to 164,300,000.0 or 51.2% last year. The decline in gross profit margin arose from several factors, higher sales allowances as I just described, unfavorable shifts in product mix from increased volumes in lower margin project products such as Cardinal Games and Puzzles, the closeout of non carry forward products at lower margins such as Marshmallow Furniture, older games and puzzles, and Hatchimal Slides, as we realigned inventory as part of our operational improvement initiatives.
We also incurred cost to suppliers related to procurement commitments that were made in 2019. Finally, we had higher inland and ocean freight expenses this quarter compared to last year, which related to inventory purchased in 2019 and sold in 2020. Overall, we estimate that in Q2, approximately $13,000,000 of the $46,000,000 decline in gross profit relates to inefficiencies arising from the 2019. There will continue to gross margin in H2 twenty twenty as a result of our ongoing inventory cleanup. However, the scale of the impact will decline in H2 as we ship our full line, which should more than offset any compression.
As our operational performance continues to improve, we expect gross margins for the 2020 to be in line with prior years. SG and A as a percentage of revenue declined to 40.8% in q two, down from 42.9% last year. The biggest driver of the decline was a 14,100,000.0 reduction in marketing costs due to lower spending as a result of COVID. As a percentage of revenue, marketing decreased to 4.1% from 7.9%. We spent less on both traditional media, experiential marketing, and trade shows.
Offsetting this were increases in influencer and e commerce marketing spend. We intend to increase our marketing spend in H2 and expect marketing spend for the 2020 to be higher compared to 2019. Selling expenses were lower in absolute terms, but higher as a percentage of revenue due to an increase in the sales mix of licensed products. Warehousing and distribution expenses were 18,800,000.0 or 6.7% of revenue, up from 16,300,000.0 or 5.1% last year. The increase related primarily to higher freight related and warehouse handling charges as part of our ongoing operational improvement initiative to ship one SKU out of only one physical warehouse location.
These transfers of inventory between DCs in The US will not reoccur in h two as we are not now largely set up to successfully execute our distribution strategy. In q two, our adjusted net loss was 9,500,000.0 or $09 loss per diluted share compared with adjusted net income of 19,800,000.0 or $0.19 per diluted share last year. Adjusted EBITDA was 21,500,000.0 compared to 55,100,000.0 last year. EBITDA margin was 7.6% compared to 17.2%. The decline in EBITDA was primarily driven by lower gross profit offset by marketing savings.
We estimate that approximately 15,000,000 of the $34,000,000 decline in EBITDA in Q2 relates to inefficiencies arising from the 2019. The tax rate for the quarter was adjusted to reflect our forecasted tax position for 2020. We expect the tax rate for 2020 to be 15%, well below our normal rates of approximately 26%, driven by the results for the 2020 and the jurisdictions we expect taxable income to be earned for the remainder of the year. For 2021, we expect to revert to our historical effective rate. From a capital allocation leverage and liquidity perspective, we are in a strong position.
Our balance sheet remains in great shape. We ended the quarter with just over four ten million dollars in cash, with net cash of over 110,000,000 compared to 77,000,000 last year. In the first quarter, we drew a total of 350,000,000 on our committed 510,000,000 revolving credit facility. And during the second quarter, we repaid $50,000,000. We plan to continue to pay down more in Q3.
Given the amount of cash on hand at the end of the quarter, the cash flow we will generate in H2, and the capacity in our credit facility, we are very solidly positioned regarding available liquidity. Net working capital was €173,500,000 at the end of Q2, down from €222,000,000 last year. Free cash flow for the quarter, excluding changes in working capital, was negative 9,800,000.0 compared to positive 18,600,000.0 last year. However, free cash flow for the quarter, including changes in working capital, was positive 40,200,000.0 compared to negative 34,700,000.0, a nearly $75,000,000 improvement in free cash flow. Inventory was 154,300,000.0 compared to 185,300,000.0 at the 2019 and 145,400,000.0 last year.
We are beginning to make meaningful progress reducing our inventory levels, although our progress was hindered to some extent by COVID as some outlets for sales were closed through the quarter. We are constantly weighing gross margin against inventory and the benefit of reducing our inventory carrying costs and improving cash flow. Let's now turn to our efforts to improve operating efficiency. In q two, we generated strong momentum towards remediating the challenges that emerged late in 2019, and we have begun to see a decline in the elevated cost levels from q four twenty nineteen and q one twenty twenty. We made significant progress in reorganizing and simplifying the structure of our North American third party distribution center network.
In North America, we began the year with 18 DCs and storage locations. As of today, we are at eight, and we will close a further two by the '3. By the 2020, we'll be down to a steady state number of five DCs, four in The US and one in Canada. We have also significantly improved our sales and operations planning processes as well as our freight management processes. Our goal is to ship more cost effectively and manage inventory flow to minimize storage requirements.
We are focused on rebuilding our operations and IT teams and improving internal and external cross functional collaboration. Along with the leadership changes made in q one, we continue to strengthen these teams. We have now implemented our customer focused teams strategy. These are customer first internal hubs focused on a single large customer or customer group and comprise a blend of dedicated sales, order management, demand planning, logistics, and credit management team members, all focused on serving a customer or group of customers. These teams are ready to serve our customers as we enter our seasonal shipping peak.
I want to now turn to the balance of 2020. We have made significant progress aimed at driving structural cost savings and improvements to get our operating margins back to where they belong. Our overall goal is to spend more judiciously, reallocating overhead spending to improve efficiency and redirecting marketing spending to brands most likely to exhibit strong sell through in the current environment, all while we prudently manage discretionary spending. Our goal was to enter q three with a more refined supply chain infrastructure and to exit 2020 at a normalized warehousing and distribution run rate. We are on track to do this.
Although we are encouraged by the strength of our POS across almost the entire product line and by the progress we have made with our operating improvements, we are not providing formal guidance at this time. Several factors drive this decision, including the fact that many parts of of The US, our largest market, continue to see rising cases of COVID. 2020 is a presidential election year in The US, and in past years in which there has been a hotly contested election, consumer spending often slows until after the election. In addition, we are also mindful of other variables such as possible tariffs, the level of retail store openings, especially specialty stores, and physical ecommerce channel rebalancing, which may impact the timing and mix of orders and replenishment. We will therefore hold of providing a detailed outlook for 2020 and beyond until a clearer picture emerges.
That said, we believe we have an exciting, innovative product portfolio and very strong entertainment and digital game content. Our solid financial foundation and diversification has allowed us to weather a challenging nine months. We have made significant progress on many fronts and believe we are now in much better shape to handle seasonal second half volumes. And we have built an asset light platform capable of generating sustainable long term growth. That concludes our formal presentation.
Ronen and I are now happy to take questions. Operator, please open the line.
And our first question comes from Derek Dley with Canaccord Genuity.
Thanks. This is Luke on the line for Derek. My first question, the sales allowances obviously came in much lower than what we expected. I guess, just broadly speaking, are those noncompliance charges largely behind you then at this point?
Yes. We've made a lot of progress on remediating the underlying causes to those noncompliance charges. As you saw, they were extensive in q four and in the q one as well. They're now trending down, and we believe we are well positioned operationally to execute well. And if we do that, then the noncompliance charges will continue to decline.
Thanks. I also wanted to follow-up on the color mark that you gave on marketing expenses and how you expect that to kind of accelerate, I guess, compared to relative to 2019 in the back half of the year. I'm just curious with, obviously, the trade shows and other events that previously would have been put on in past years and not necessarily occurring this year. I'm just curious to know where you can maybe you can talk to where you expect those dollars to be allocated across your marketing programs for the back half of the year.
Yeah. So so we held back overall on marketing in in q two for obvious reasons, as I just described in my script. We do expect our marketing spend in the second half to increase. There will not be things like trade shows and experiential marketing in the second half due to COVID, but we are gonna be leaning in into other areas, particularly digital. And, Renin, why don't you why don't you describe some of the activities that we're gonna be doing in that area?
Yeah. It's Luke. Right?
Yep.
Hey, Luke. You know, our marketing for the third and fourth quarter are gonna change considerably compared to previous years. We're taking a very we're taking a digital first approach to our marketing this year. And the acceleration of the digital shopping is it's really it's moved us from 2020 almost to 02/1930. You know, we've jumped ten years in short amount of time.
And, you know, we're very fortunate that we were on this digital marketing path early on by making some key hires, brings people in from BuzzFeed. Person who runs marketing is originally from BuzzFeed. And, realigning our team and thinking about our spends. And so we've done some fundamental things like bringing our buying in house. So we buy all our digital media in house, and what that enables us to do is to make real time, changes to the creative.
When we see that the effectiveness of the creative is not working, then we can actually change it on the fly, and we can actually modify the buying to match the creative. The other thing is that, you know, in the past, the marketing was traditionally spent on television or experiential, but now there's so much fragmentation in the marketplace where it goes from linear TV to SVOD to video games, to influencers, to YouTube, to Facebook, to Instagram, to Roku. It just goes just goes on and on to Echo at Walmart, to different things at Target. And so with that fragmentation, it it really entails actually doing the creative specifically for the actual medium itself. And so traditionally in the past, we would have, you know, one bit of creative, and we use that across other across all the mediums.
Now creative is made specifically for the medium. And you could have for one brand over 250 piece of creative made at a time. And so that's really the iterative, agile approach to advertising and the interplay of digital buying that we brought in house. And you'll see the the the effects of that this third and fourth quarter, and we're we're looking forward to sharing more with you guys in the future.
Understood. Last one for me, and then I'll pass the line. I appreciate the commentary that you guys gave about how the PAW Patrol movie is still on schedule to be introduced a year from now on August 2021. I'm just curious if you've had any discussions internally or with your partners about maybe changing the distribution method for that movie, just given what happened with COVID-nineteen, maybe going straight to SVOD or something of that nature?
Yes. We're still early. The the production, fortunately, because it is animation, is on track and has not been affected by COVID. That being said, it is not easy on any of the animation studios to produce content for us. So, you know, we really appreciate the hard effort that everybody's making by a work from home environment.
But things are on track. And currently, right now, we're still on plans to deliver the movie theatrically in 2021. If we get closer to the time, we'll we'll evaluate some other options if the COVID is still persisting at this high level.
Thanks. Appreciate the comments.
And our next question comes from Adam Shine with National Bank Financial.
Thanks. Good morning. Maybe one first for you, Ronen. Usually as we as you guys get through sort of June, July and you have your conversations with retailers heading into the second half, you get a you have a good sense of what they're thinking. Can you maybe talk about or characterize how those discussions were given the backdrop of COVID, a sense of caution or with the reopening, a sort of cautious optimism, you know, in terms of as you alluded to, the replenishment cycle that, you know, seems to lie ahead in the seasonal stronger period?
And then maybe one for you, Mark, just in terms of other, you know, given some of the closures that existed and disruption on the entertainment side in the H1, can you speak maybe a little bit in terms of how H2 other revenue should evolve, the presumption being that we should see some degree of growth going into the second half on other revenue? Thanks.
Hey, Adam. Nice to hear from you. I would say that we're very fortunate as an industry where our industry has held up better than I personally expected. And so we're very fortunate to be in this position. And from a retailer perspective, you know, as we noted in our in our opening remarks that there are certain retailers that are doing very well in in these categories of goods.
But at the same time, I would categorize it as cautiously optimistic. You said you said it well. I mean, they're still you know, they're they're buying and and they're buying in a in a healthy manner. But that being said, they're cautiously optimistic, and there's still some caution in the way they buy and and how they buy. So they're they're they're I would say that they're being measured.
And I think that can bode well for for the the overall industry, and I think it could bode well for everybody because retail could end up being very clean come the fourth quarter and set everybody up for a healthy first and second quarter of next year. So it's it's almost like an opportunity to clean out the inventory, both ourselves and our warehouses and retail and stuff like that. But I think they're looking for to keep their rate of sale high and inventory, levels moving very quickly.
Okay. I'll deal with I'll deal with the second part. Adam, just to add one point, you know, to what Renee just described. You you obviously, our p o POS results are significantly higher than than shipments right now, and so that means retail inventories are being drawn down. You know, every week that goes by, retailers are getting a better line of sight to Christmas, more data points.
And at some point, they're gonna have to step in offset by the by the macro cautions that that Renan just described. But but overall, you know, we feel optimistic about that. In terms of other revenue, other revenue, as you know, combines comprises the licensing and merchandising income, TV distribution income, and app revenue from TOCA and SEGA. So I think for the second half of the year, as we see a rebound in in PAW Patrol and other franchises, which we generate a lot of licensing and merchandising income from, we should see a a pickup in that. I think it's going to be tempered to some extent by the environment in which we're operating.
So we're not expecting to see a significant increase. And it's certainly overall, I think other revenue will be down relative to prior years. But we are seeing a strong increase in app revenue and revenue related to our subscription activities in Toka and Sego. So there's a nice balance there.
Oh, okay. So I'm sorry. Just so just to be clear, we you think in the second half, there's gonna be tempered growth or an actual decline year over year in the other revenue line?
I I I think there will be a overall decline in other revenue relative to prior years.
Okay. Thanks. And maybe just one follow-up if you don't mind. Mark, for you, just in terms of what's happening in Europe where there seems to be the lack of e commerce in terms of reliance while there are store closures, Is there a risk in regards to any bad debt or other concerns related to potential closures among specialty and other retailers outside of North America?
You you know, the one thing, Adam, that we are seeing in Europe is that we actually are seeing a fairly significant shift in some of our key retailers towards ecommerce there. Although The US and North America is way ahead of Europe in terms of their capacity and capability, we are seeing that change very rapidly. And so I'm actually quite encouraged by the way that the industry is shifting towards e commerce over there and I think it's accelerating very rapidly. Having said that, there were obviously some very significant shutdowns in in countries like France and Italy and in UK etcetera, and that has put the retail industry under pressure and also in places like Mexico. So we have seen an uptick in our provision for doubtful accounts.
Just keep in mind that we are credit insured in all of our major markets. We do have a deductible, you know, which is not covered, and we also have some coinsurance. So we have seen an uptick, but it's very minor. And I would have no concerns from your end on any material bad debts or impacts to our receivables during either the rest of the year or next year because we do have credit insurance policies in place for all of our major markets.
Great. Thanks a lot for that.
Our next question comes from Jerick Johnson with BMO Capital Markets.
Hey, good morning. Worldwide POS That's pretty impressive. It is second quarter, so I won't get too excited just yet. But I want to be more specific on POS.
Is this a clean number? Does it exclude Hatchimals or something like that? And does it include all your retailers, top customers, NPD? What is it based on?
So, Gerrick, in the past, we've actually always split our POS including and excluding Hatchimals. We're not doing that anymore as Hatchimals is declining as a as a as a part of our business. So the numbers that you're seeing are all in, and they include NPD and all other forms of data that we actually get. So as you know, NPD doesn't measure everything. They're very extensive, and and we rely on them extensively, and they're excellent.
But we also have our own, other tracking mechanisms, and so this represents our, our numbers, in terms of what POS represents.
Oh, okay. Maybe if I could drill in a little bit more specifically since we are comparing, you know, retail versus, you know, retail POS for shipments. It could be a little bit apples to oranges there because your shipments are to everybody, and if your POS is only a slice of it. So is your POS covering 100% of your customers, 80%? That's what I'm trying to get at.
Yeah. I I actually don't have a specific number for you that says our POS covers an exact proportion of our our customer base. But, obviously, our shipments are to the whole market. The POS numbers that we have is to a large segment of the market, but it's not 100%. We don't get POS from every single retailer around the world.
So there is a there is an element of of a disconnect with that. But I think that's true for everybody in the industry.
Oh, yes. And and definitely, the MPD numbers are overstated because you don't have those small specialty retailers included that are obviously being closed and backlogged. But moving on, the massive declines in international kind of mask real performance of some of your brands. And I know, Mark, you talked about a couple, but you went a little quickly and I might have missed. But can we talk maybe in terms of North America only, your performance of some of your key brands that are most interested in like PAW Patrol, Bakugan, Hatchimal, and and then Games and Activities, how how they perform both shipments and retail in in North America only?
Sure. In North America, are you talking about for the quarter?
Yes.
Okay. Let me just refer you back to what we said. So overall, POS in The US was up 23%. Okay? And, you you know, in in The US, PAW Patrol was actually down 1% in q two from minus 17 in q one.
Overall, the year to date decline in POS is is 10%. Currently, we're seeing that that POS even grow further. Kinetic Sand POS is up triple digits. And really, if you actually look what's happening right now in The US, current POS continues to accelerate. We've seen continued strength driven by features at Walmart and Target and the Dino SKUs are beginning to set, so that's driving POS up at PAW Patrol.
Kinetic Sand remains a triple digit POS growth. Cardinal and Board Games and Puzzles are showing high double digit growth POS. Bakugan POS has picked up to mid teens. It was actually lower than that in the quarter. Bakugan, as you know, was affected by COVID in Q2 itself.
Monster Jam is showing consistent 20% plus POS growth, and POS for Batman in DC is solid. The negatives from a POS perspective are Hatchimals and Dragons, which are both down double digits from a POS perspective. And just one interesting data point, it's not material in dollars, but Etch A Sketch is showing very strong mid double digits POS growth due to the introduction of our licensed lines. So that's an interesting data point in one of our acquisitions. So hopefully that That helps
does. That's very helpful. I appreciate it. And yes, on Etch A Sketch, we've been seeing the big programs out there. They look excellent.
One more for me. Similar to Luke's question, looks like your DC movies for next year, Batman, I guess, are still on schedule, so is Paw Patrol. How are you thinking about entertainment next year? Because it looks like we're gonna have a huge logjam with everything moved into 2021. You know, Minions moved.
You still have Jurassic World. You still have, you know, Ghostbusters moved. You have all the Marvel movies moved. So how are you thinking about about those programs next year? Does that give you some pause with all the other stuff cluttering, cluttering the landscape?
It's a good question, Gerrick. First of all, hey. How how are doing?
Hi, Ronan.
You know, I would say I'd say with PAW Patrol, I mean, there really is not a lot of offerings in the feature film area for the younger set. So I think we really stand alone in that in that space. And then when you look at things like, you know, the Batman DC movies, it's gonna be interesting. You know, they're gonna be, you know, tackling you know, they're gonna be fighting it out for for audience share and stuff like that. But I think that when you look at the strength of the franchise itself, when you look at Batman, it is such a strong franchise that it's holding up right now, not even in a movie year quite well.
I also put a lot of, let's call it, emphasis on the product line itself. I mean, our team has put an incredible program together, and you see the results in the sales themselves with the product, and I think they'll do the same with an exceptional product line that will match the movie at at in the theater. So, you know, I think at the end of the day, the the underlying property is extremely strong and the product will match it very well. And I don't know whether or not sales if the theater receipts will be down a little bit, whether or not that will affect the overall sell through of the line. But it's yet to be determined, and you don't know whether or not you know, there's a lot of uncertainty.
So things may move at continue to move, and people may move their move to 02/2022, and and, we don't know. So we'll see.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Think it's great. Thank you, everyone. I think it's something it's something we should drill down a little bit more, you know, probably on the next call or call after that.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you, guys.
Thanks, Gary.
And our next question comes from John Garfinkel with Scotiabank.
I'm stepping in for George Doumet. I just had a couple of questions. There have been a lot of a lot more online sales that typically have a larger impact on Q4 compared to Q3. I was wondering if you could quantify the new seasonality in terms of gross product sales in the back half of the year.
Yes. So typically, the second half of the year comprises around 70% of our sales and give or take a few percent either way. And if you go back to the days where Toys R Us was in existence, typically, q three was around 45% and q four was around 25%. With the growth in in online, with the demise of Toys R Us, we've seen q three decline and we've seen q four increase. And I think we'll see the same trend this year.
I'm not gonna give you specific factors or specific percentages because we we're not giving guidance, but I think you will see a shift towards more domestic, and you will see a shift towards a larger Q4 as a result of more domestic due to online just in time type buying than you have seen in prior years.
Okay. Great. Thanks for that. And just one more for me. I was wondering if you could break out the percentage of the percent of gross product sales under a normalized environment that you generate from specialty stores as a whole and maybe by geography.
Yeah. We we don't break that out specifically, but I can tell you it's it's actually very small. Our specialty business is actually quite quite minor. It's in the low single digits in terms of our total volume. I don't know what the exact number is, but it is quite small.
Okay. Great. Thanks a lot.
And our next question comes from Steph Winsink with Jefferies.
have been asked but I have two bigger picture questions. This one is for you. It caught me off guard a bit when you talked about in your prepared remarks that, you know, profit more important than sales or profit versus sales. So maybe just extrapolate a little bit on that, respecting that you are a large shareholder yourself, just help us think through the balance of the agenda between kind of protecting profits and growing the business. And then secondly, Mark, one's for you.
It also struck me that you talked about Mighty Express as a shift to a full franchise model versus what you have with PAW Patrol. Can you maybe just walk us through some of the financial articulation of that just so we can go back and refer to the differences between the two in terms of how the financial structures work to your benefit? Thank you.
Hey, Stephanie. You know, I think that at at the end of the day, I mean, growth and profitability have to go hand in hand. They're just they're both they're they're both equal and they're both important. And us as a company, you know, we we stumbled last year from a profitability perspective, and we're working very hard to remedy that, fix it, and make sure that the company is set up from a profitability perspective, first and foremost, so that you can when you layer on the growth and you take the growth, you can maintain the profitability at the same at the same time. So, you know, don't don't miss misunderstand my comments in terms of growth.
I mean, we're constantly out there planting seeds and producing lots of television shows and movies and developing new product lines and doing everything we do and, you know, growing in the digital area. But everything has to be done in a in a measured approach so that we don't give back profits at the at the end of the day. So it's it's managing the two. And and I think, you know, happy you asked asked the question because, you know, there's such a such a interesting interplay. You know, when you look at inventory and stuff like inventory, you know, at the end of the day, you ship in a lot of inventory at the in the third and fourth quarter, but then you end up paying the price in the first and second quarter with markdowns and allowances and things clogging up at retail and then your POS going down and your new themes can't get traction.
So, you know, we're really pushing the company to be really a best in class operator on top of a best in class innovator on top of a best in class growth company. And all three things combined together. And I think it's a different skill set. And I think the days, you know, when we went public in 02/1516, and we had this big ride with Hatchimals, and, you know, it's hundreds of millions of dollars and stuff like that. But it's a different company today when you're diversified and you have 28 offices around the world and you have a company like, you know, the games division and you're selling and you have a plush company and now you have mobile studios in Europe and in Canada, and your entertainment office production office is much bigger than it was before, and you have way more productions happening.
The company is just way more diversified. And I think that just takes a different mindset to operate. And so I think we're we're on this beautiful transition to being those three things that I just described before. And then just in terms of maybe, Mark, I'll take the just in the terms of Mighty Express, you know, in the way we were structured with PAW Patrol, it's really an amazing partnership with with Nickelodeon. And Nickelodeon handles all the licensing and merchandising.
They do all the style guides. They vet all the the partners. They work with the partners. They do all the retail meetings for PAW Patrol. They help promote the the franchise itself.
And so with Mighty Express, this is our our first foray into Spin Master managing the franchise first and foremost. So we'll be producing the style guides. We'll be actually bringing on all the various different licensing partners. We'll be doing all the retail campaigns. You'll see, in the fourth quarter third and fourth quarter, a lot of spending, that will go to actually promote Mighty Express and drive viewers actually back to Netflix to watch the the, the show.
And you'll see other other marketing activities plus also content activities to actually build franchise in in what I would say is a new point in time with how kids view content. And so and as a result of that, you know, we've staffed up and we have a new head franchise, which is reporting to Jennifer Dodge, and we're peaking out we're building out the team. And as a result of that, we will be garnering a larger share of or a much bigger share of the licensing and merchandising revenues if we'll be so fortunate that Might Express will connect with the consumer.
That's great. Thank you so much, Ronan. Appreciate it.
And our next question comes from Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets.
Thanks and good morning. Your comment earlier around increasing marketing spend on some key brands through H2, I guess, we assume that's primarily focused on PAW Patrol? Or are there other brands that you're looking to increase investment behind over the next quarter or so? I think I think that it goes across the pretty much the whole portfolio, Saba. You know, as as Mark shared with you with the POS numbers, we're we're having good traction in the marketplace.
And to keep that traction going, we've got to support with marketing across the board. So there is a whole host of marketing activities that are gonna happen. Again, as I mentioned, slightly different than previous years because of all the digital shopping and the transformation to digital that our society is seeing. But everything's gonna be supported. Obviously, there'll be more support in some of the larger franchises, you know, Monster Jam, Bakugan, activities, games, Kinetic, PAW Patrol, everything.
Okay. And then on your DC Comics agreements, I guess, the licensing agreements that you have with Warner Brothers, and this is probably a issue that's affecting the whole industry, but I guess depending on how those timelines move and some of the minimums that you may have agreed to, I guess, there room for some flexibility there as you move into 2021 and the outlook is somewhat unclear on the movie release schedules and so forth? Yeah. I think I think our if it moves into '22, it's still part of our our overall deal with them, so I wouldn't see any risk there.
Saba, were you referring to minimum guarantees and advances and those kinds of issues?
Yeah. Just exactly. Just on the the economics of it. Yeah. I think I think there's I don't know the specific details of the the deal, but I think they're they're great partners, and I'm sure that there is some flexibility in there.
And but I would also say this is that the I I you know, I can't speak to the specifics of the deal. I think it's not probably appropriate on the call either. But I I would say that I don't think it's an issue.
Yeah. In general, I would say, Saba, we you know, we're we're aware of all of these issues with all of our license agreements, MGs, you know, advances, whatever, we we we're not currently seeing any major issues or concerns. And and we have good relationships with people, and if something was to need to be negotiated for whatever reason, then I'm sure we'd have a reasonable business conversation. But that's not nothing that's like front and center right now in any way.
Great. Thank you.
And our next question comes from Brian Morrison with TD Securities.
Hi. Good morning, guys. For the interest of time, I'll keep this short. Just on the supply chain where you've obviously made good progress, I want to understand, Ronen, just quickly, the backup plans you have in place as you rationalize the footprint down to five at year end.
First of all, Sofia is hitting her head because she's embarrassed about the the ambulances outside, but I'm I'm happy you guys are hearing because then now you know that we're actually in the office, which is kinda You know, Brian, I I think that I I would say that what we had before was was one of the most bloated, inefficient, strange warehouse and distributions setups. I'm embarrassed by what we actually grew into, and we're going back to something that is what Mark what Mark stated is something that we've had traditionally for many, many, many years. And I think if you look at us compared to our competitors, it's a very similar warehouse and distribution footprint. One in Canada, which is more than enough to cover the country and the four that we have in The United States. Even the four, I think, is is is probably one too many, but we'll we'll net out there.
So I'm I'm confident that we're going to the right spot. Plus, also, I can tell you this that the our partners, the engagement, more important than anything else, the engagement of our partners is so high now. We have top to top relationships. I've I have we have CEO to CEO meetings with our teams and their teams with our warehouse at DSV. The the CEO, he calls in from from Europe.
He's there every two weeks on our meetings. The CEO on our East Coast warehouse is there all the time. Our freight forwarder, Robinson, the CEO is very engaged. So all our partners are more than our structure, everybody's really engaged in the and the integration between the teams is the highest it's ever been. And our systems and our EDI setups between the warehouses and our visibility is far better than it's ever been before.
So I think it's I think it really comes down to part of the structure and the one SKU one location, which is really imperative, which simplifies everything for us, and also the connectivity between our teams and our people and the collaboration, and also the visibility of the sight lines for the products coming in and on the water when they're coming, you know, how many how many pallets we have in each warehouse, pallet per per brand, what's going down. We also have different things like, you know, year end targets now. So it's it's much more it's it's very, interlinked. But, again, just going back to your original question, common awareness, I I think that we're we're set up with with the the right amount, to service our customers and get our customer levels back to where where they need to be. And also, set ourselves up to, supply for this ecommerce world, which is really, becoming a big deal.
Got it. So follow-up then, Mark, just point blank. You did say exit 2020 at normalized distribution levels. Is the message here that we should expect a recovery toward normalized EBITDA margins in the back half of 2020 and then for 2021 to be at historical margins for the year or to achieve a run rate of historical margins in 2021?
Brian, you asked me a point blank question. I have to give you a point blank reply. I mean, we're not giving guidance, right? Like we're not being that specific on guidance. But directionally, what you're saying is what we're trying to get to.
You know, we've we've actually now positioned ourselves to be in a position to get back to normalized margins, but we have to execute. And so really, what it comes down to for the second half of twenty twenty for Spin Master is execution. I think we've done all the right things to get us to the the point where we can execute, and now we gotta do it. And and so when we end when we exit 2020, as I said to you before, 2020 will obviously, as a year, not get us back to where we wanna be. But going into 2021, we wanna be at those run rates where for 2021, we are operating at levels that you and the market have come to expect from us.
Excellent. One last small one. In terms of the strong ratings at PAW Patrol, are you seeing any shift in the demograph demographics of your audience with the new theme? Are you seeing expansion of it with the with the Dino added?
You know, it's interesting. It's I think that the the answer is I the answer is yes. I think that the themes if you if you watch, and I encourage everybody on the call to watch the latest theme because it's amazing, It's slightly aged up versus the traditional PAW Patrol show that we make. And I think that that's actually enabled us to get a wide breadth of audience where we can still capture some six and seven year olds. It's funny.
The themes I think the themes give the older kids some cover, you know, over their younger siblings where they're watching a themed version of Paw Patrol versus watching the traditional Paw Patrol. So I think the themes at the end of the day and things like the movie are enabling us to keep keep the fans into the franchise longer. So I think the answer is yes.
Thank you.
And our next question comes from David McFadden with Cormark Securities.
Hi. A couple of questions. So there's been a few questions asked about the PAW Patrol feature film. I was just wondering if you could tell us what the level of capital is at risk for you, or if you can't get specific, is is there anything to be worried about, you know, just given what we're seeing in the theatrical market here with people pulling films and so on. And then secondly, you gave us an outlook on the gross margin you expect for the second half of twenty twenty.
And I was wondering, can you give us something similar for the selling, marketing, distribution and product development expenses as a percentage of revenue?
Yes. So in terms of PAW Patrol, maybe I think that we're on track right now to finish the film and have the film ready to go to to wider audience. We'll see closer to the time if the theatrical is the right option for it. But what we're seeing in the marketplace, if you look at things like trolls that changed their strategy last minute as a result of COVID, they were still able to garner huge audience share and also garner a lot of revenue as a result of it. So other options have emerged as a result of COVID that give optionality for us for for PAW Patrol, and we'll look at the optionality closer to the time.
But right now, we're we're on track for the theatrical. And if COVID persists, we'll look at all options. But the fans are gonna the fans are there, and the fans are excited to see something like a theatrical, and the content is very different from a traditional TV show.
Yeah. So again, I I gotta be a little careful in terms of forward looking numbers. But if you if you look at historical numbers and if you look at the breakdown of SG and A, you know, SG and A as a total of this percentage of revenue has been as low as 38% in 2018. And that's the direction directionally where we want to be back to. I think it's going to take us a little while to get there.
And obviously, as our top line has compressed, we've seen deleveraging from an operating leverage perspective. And so as we continue to grow, that will help us as well. But if you look at the major components, warehousing is running close to 7%, and that really should be around 5% or below. Marketing is typically at around 10% of sales. Selling expenses are typically around 7% of sales depending on product mix.
That's totally variable. Product development typically runs at around 2% of our sales, and then you have admin for the balance around 15% or 16%. So that gives you the cost structure effectively, David.
Okay. Okay, great. Thank you.
We'll make this last question, operator.
And our last question comes from Jerick Johnson, BMO Capital Markets.
Hey. Good morning again. So Brian wanted to keep it short. I wanna keep going. Hey.
Two two quick questions, I guess. You know, FOB versus domestic, that's been in flux over the last couple of years, shifting shifting more to domestic versus FOB. But, how are things looking, this year, relative to last year on that on that on that shift between the ways of fulfilling? And how is your your distribution system? How are you setting that up?
You know, what are you planning for, in that regard? And then just if you could be a little bit more specific on what proportion of your stores that you sell through on a retail basis were closed, in the quarter, you know, how that, how many were closed at the beginning? How many were closed at the end? And and how's it looking right now?
So on the FOB versus domestic, Gary, just for for context for everyone on the line, you know, if you go back historically to around 02/2018, our FOB was around 60% of our sales. Domestic was around 40%, give or take a few points either way for the longest period of time. And that was with TRU in the market. And then in 2019, things shifted. TRU was not around anymore.
We had we had our own issues in terms of bringing more in domestically, and we had tariffs, and we had the whole issue in debacle in in 2019, as you know. What we said at the time and what we've continued to say is that we think a mix of around fifty-fifty is the right place for us to be. There's obviously no specific wrong or right answer here. This is a negotiation between us and retailers, and it does depend on product lines. Having said that, in 2020, because of the large inventory carryover balance that we had, we've seen for the 2020 a much higher domestic versus FOB ratio, particularly because we've had all this inventory on hand and we needed to actually clear it out.
So for the 2020, our Dom ratio was 60% compared to 40 FOB. Now that will shift in q three as we'll ship some more FOB, but but as online continues to to grow in the industry and for Spin Master, we'll see a trend towards more Dom. So I would say to you, we are planning to be at around fifty-fifty. I think we'll be slightly higher Dom for this year than that target, but that's directionally where we want to be. In terms of store closures, to be honest, I know some of our larger competitors actually track specific numbers of stores, but we we actually don't have that data.
I I would say to you, you know, from a commentary perspective, we've given you the data on our top three. You know, in The US, the department stores and toy specialty stores have been were very badly affected in q two, as you know. Some of them are beginning to open. Some of them may never reopen. In Europe, in France, in Italy, where there's a much bigger specialty market, I think things are starting to reemerge there.
But again, some may never reappear. But we don't have the specific data, Gareth, that you may see from some of our our other larger competitors.
Okay. Fair enough. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate it.
Okay. So operator, I think that concludes the call. I'd like to thank everybody. We did go over extra time just to give you more information and more insight. We appreciate your interest, and we look forward to seeing you in November for our q three results.
Thanks, everyone. Thanks, guys.