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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Aug 3, 2023

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Spin Master Corporation Second Quarter 2023 Results Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Sophia Bisoukis. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Sophia Bisoukis
VP of Investor Relations, Spin Master

Thank you, Chris. Good morning. Welcome to Spin Master's Financial Results conference call for the second quarter ended June 30th, 2023. I'm joined this morning by Mark Segal, Spin Master's Chief Financial Officer, and Ronnen Harary, Chair and Co-Founder. Max Rangel, our Global President and CEO, will unfortunately not be able to join our call today. We are saddened to share he has experienced a loss in his family as his father has passed away. Our thoughts and prayers are with Max and his family during this time. For your convenience, the press release, MD&A, and interim consolidated financial statements are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at spinmaster.com and on SEDAR.

Before we begin, please note the remarks on this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about Spin Master's current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, level of activity, performance goals or achievements, and any other future events or developments. Forward-looking statements are based on information currently available to management and on estimates and assumptions made based on factors that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that certain estimates or assumptions will prove to be correct. Many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from these expected or implied by the forward-looking statements. As a result, Spin Master cannot guarantee that any forward-looking statements will materialize, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements.

Except as may be required by law, Spin Master has no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. For additional information on these assumptions and risks, please see our cautionary statements regarding forward-looking information in our earnings release dated August 2nd, 2023. Please note that Spin Master reports in U.S. dollars and all dollar amounts will be expressed today in U.S. currency, unless otherwise noted. I would now like to turn the call over to Mark.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Good morning, everyone, thank you for joining us. As Sophia mentioned, we're sorry to miss Max today with the passing of his dad yesterday, but we are happy to have Ronnen join us today. I'm gonna read the script, and then Ronnen and I will do the question- and- answer session. We are pleased to have delivered a solid second quarter, which was in line with expectations despite last year's unusually front-end loaded shipping patterns. Our results reflect our commitment to building three thriving creative centers and investing in long-term growth. Together with a winning combination of toys, entertainment, and digital games, we are expanding our reach and providing kids and families around the world with magical experiences by reimagining everyday play. As expected, toy gross product sales in Q2 were challenged by the clearance activity of carryover inventory at retail, particularly in the U.S.

These higher inventory levels caused retailers to slow orders in the first half of this year, resulting in Q2 revenue declining 20.9% in comparison to Q2 2022. Retailer inventory clearance activities have now been concluded. The clearing of retail channels creates a pathway for new items to be launched for the holiday season. From a Spin Master perspective, our U.S. retail inventory at the end of Q2 was down 17% over last year as of the end of Q2. Last quarter, we spoke about the expected softening of the toy industry in 2023, specifically in the U.S., a region that has traditionally held up well during tougher economic periods. Global toy POS in Q2 declined 10%, and we trailed the market with a decline of 17% per Circana.

As in Q1, most of our POS decline in Q2 occurred in the U.S., where POS declined 22% compared to the industry, which was down 12.4%. We are, however, encouraged that POS declines have begun to slow, and in late June and in July, we have started to see growth reemerge. For example, we had very strong results in the U.S. for Amazon Prime Day, with POS well ahead of our expectations and ahead of market growth. Our Prime Day performance increased 130% year-over-year and is at an all-time high. Internationally, our POS declined 4.6% in Q2, outperforming the total industry, which was down 6.4% per Circana. This result was in part due to less inventory clearance within Europe.

On a year-to-date basis, we have gained share in over half of the countries in the G10, according to Circana. The preschool category continues to be a key area of strength for Spin Master, led by Paw Patrol, our leading preschool franchise, which is celebrating its tenth anniversary this year. In Q2, Paw Patrol was the number one preschool toy property globally and has held that position since Q1 of 2020, per Circana. In Q2, we had three of the top 10 items within the infant, toddler, preschool category in the U.S., per Circana. Gabby's Dollhouse Perfect Play Set was number four, Paw Patrol Aqua Pups was number five, and the Paw Patrol Big Truck Pups was number nine. In Q2, our global POS for Paw Patrol declined approximately 10%, per Circana. In Q2, our U.S. POS for Paw Patrol was down slightly, per Circana.

However, in the U.S., on a year-to-date basis, Paw Patrol grew low single digits in the infants, toddler, and preschool category. We are optimistic for the toy line in the second half, coinciding with the release of our second feature film for the franchise on September 29th. We expect the second Paw movie to have a similar halo effect on the brand's performance as it did in 2021. Gabby's Dollhouse continues to produce incredible results, having built a strong consumer fan base around the world through the Netflix show and its robust digital ecosystem. Per Circana, Gabby's Dollhouse was the number five preschool toy property globally in Q2, compared to number nine in Q2 of 2022, and was a top 10 property in preschool toys for the sixth straight year, sixth straight quarter, sorry.

Within Dolls and Interactive, we are very excited about the launch of Hatchimals Alive, beginning this August, which will give kids a whole new way to hatch using water to bring these characters to life. The price point of this line lends itself well to parents seeking value during the holiday season. As many of you have seen, we have another exciting launch within the Dolls and Interactive category this fall. Bitzee, the digital pets you can touch, embodies the best of our innovation and leverages our brilliance in creating engaging, interactive toys. While the product only just set in the U.S. on August 1st, we are seeing early signs of very strong performance. Initial launches in China, Japan, Spain, and Portugal have shown strong reaction and very positive sell-through results. Bitzee is already nominated for a number of industry awards.

We have several strong properties within our Wheels in Action category, including Monster Jam, Bakugan, D.C., and Tech Deck, notably. Bakugan became the number one property in the battling toy category globally on a year-to-date basis, compared to number two last year, according to Circana. We are excited to reinvigorate the brand this fall with a new season of our anime adventure series hitting Netflix beginning September 1st, featuring a revamped anime style and a fresh storyline and new characters. The new season will first be revealed in Roblox, given our past success with leveraging the Metaverse to reach kids, and will be complemented by a new toy line with an enhanced way for players to battle. Spin Master became the number 1 manufacturer for the D.C. Universe globally, up from number two in Q2 of 2022, according to Circana.

As we have mentioned previously, the D.C. Universe continues to bring new films to fans throughout 2023 and through to 2026, which will have a halo impact on our toy lines. Within Games, Rubik's Cube continues to grow. Rubik's was up 16.9% year-over-year and was the number seven brand, according to Circana. While recognizing that the first half of the year has been challenging from a comparison perspective, we have strong confidence in our diverse toy portfolio moving into the fall. Infused with our signature innovation, popular franchise items and evergreen staples at solid price points, we believe we are in a good position to succeed. We expect that consumers will be looking to purchase at more modest price points and will be shopping even later in the season, given that Christmas falls on a Monday this year.

We have created robust marketing plans that cater to the current consumer and marketplace realities. Our paid media activities are in line to key tentpoles, retail activations, and promotional activity, and we have ensured maximum flexibility to remain agile in our targeted marketing campaigns to meet the consumer where and when they shop. Turning to entertainment, we had another strong quarter, with revenue increasing by over 19%, driven by higher distribution revenue. Previously, we shared that we have launched or are launching three brand-new entertainment properties in 2023: Rubble & Crew, Vida the Vet, and Unicorn Academy. Vida, which is a new animated preschool series, is set to debut on BBC's CBeebies in the U.K. and on Corus's Treehouse in Canada this fall. Since we last spoke, we have signed close to 10 new international distribution deals for Vida, including the U.S.

We are also approaching the launch of Unicorn Academy, a new fantasy adventure series that will start streaming on Netflix globally in November. The full franchise marketing plan will begin in September as we preview the content via Roblox, start paid media, and execute our influencer and YouTube content strategy. We have already made tremendous progress on building our licensed consumer product program, signing several licensors within fashion, publishing, bedding, sleepwear, health and beauty, and accessories. We are aligning our franchise marketing efforts to regions where Netflix has the deepest reach. Additionally, our digital games team is currently developing the Unicorn Academy mobile action-adventure digital game that encapsulates the magic of the series and expands overall engagement in the franchise. Earlier this year, we introduced our first spin-off for Paw Patrol, Rubble & Crew. I'm pleased to share that Rubble & Crew continues to be a top-performing series on Nickelodeon.

The show debuted very strongly and has maintained a leadership position as a top 10 series on Nick Jr. with kids two to five. Given its impressive showing in its inaugural season, Nickelodeon has greenlit a second season for Rubble & Crew. Our original Paw Patrol series also continues to perform well, ranking in the number one spot on Nick Jr. in May, and has been greenlit for its 11th season. Of course, we are approaching the release of our highly anticipated second feature film, Paw Patrol: The Mighty Movie, set for theatrical debut on September 29th, in association with Nickelodeon Movies and Paramount Pictures. The trailer was released on YouTube in June and has accumulated more than 70 million global views already. Within digital games, total revenue increased slightly over 2022, driven by higher in-app purchases in Toca Life World.

This is the first year-over-year quarterly increase we've seen in digital games since Q2 of last year. This was driven by new content releases, including the launch of our second licensed theme pack with SpongeBob, and higher engagement, with monthly active users up 3% year-over-year to 58 million. We now have 76 million monthly active users across the Toca Boca ecosystem. We think the fan community within Toca will be super excited with Toca Days, our first 3D player multi-game, which is currently in soft launch. Toca Days will allow the opportunity for open-ended play and creativity, coupled with the ability for social interactions between players. Player sentiment so far has been high. Based on the initial feedback and learnings, the team is making continuous improvements to ready for a full go live in 2024.

We are launching a Paw Patrol app, Paw Patrol Academy, this fall to coincide with the movie. This will be our first in-house developed Paw Patrol app, focused on integrating show content with fun learning experiences and missions for preschoolers. Our new Rubik's Cube casual game, officially known as Rubik's Match, will have its worldwide release in early 2024, in line with the Cube's fiftieth anniversary. With the continued popularity of Rubik's as a physical toy, we believe this mobile digital game will resonate with fans young and old, and will attract new gamers to the brand. We previously discussed Sago Mini's plans for a subscription bundle that will launch later this month, branded as Piknik. This comprehensive bundle of apps will include thousands of top-rated activities created by parents, child development experts, and kids.

Piknik will provide unlimited access to all the Sago Mini, Sago Mini properties, as well as Toca Boca Junior apps, a new collection of fan favorite apps like Toca Pet Doctor, Toca Kitchen, as well as the Endless learning apps, including Math Tango. At just CAD 11.99 a month, parents will have access to the very best touch screen content with one single membership at significant savings. Leveraging our IP across our creative centers is core to our strategy, we are excited about the opportunities for growth stemming from the initiatives underway in and across each of our creative centers. Turning now to our financial performance in more detail. As I mentioned, total revenue in Q2 was CAD 420.7. Against challenging year-over-year comparisons, this reflects a 17% decline in revenue compared to Q2 2022.

This decline can be primarily attributed to the return of traditional seasonal order timing in our toys creative center. As a reminder, in May, we discussed how the toy industry in the first half of 2023 felt the impact of retailer clearance activity after ending 2022 with significant inventory carryover. Comparisons from the first half of 2023 to the first half of 2022 looked especially unfavorable since we had unusually high sales in Q2 last year, as retailers bought inventory in much earlier than normal to avoid anticipated supply chain disruptions. On top of this, our toy sales in H1 2022 were inflated by the D.C. Comics Batman movie launch, and we were still shipping in Russia.

Outside of the top-line performance, we continued to develop consistent operational and financial results, achieving a strong earning and margin profile, with EBITDA at over CAD 88 million for the quarter at a 21% margin. Looking at Q2 performance by creative center, toy gross product sales were CAD 390 million, down 19.5%. Foreign exchange did not have a material impact. On a constant currency basis, GPS declined 20%. Geographically in Q2, North America was responsible for the decline, both in dollars and percentage terms, as the trends discussed earlier were more pronounced in the U.S. Preschool and dolls and interactive declined 20.8%, primarily from a drop in sales of Paw Patrol, Hatchimals, Wizarding World, and Purse Pets, partially offset by an increase in Bitzee, Rubble & Crew, and Gabby's Dollhouse.

Activities, games, and puzzles, and plush was down 24.4%, mainly due to a decrease in the games and puzzles portfolio and Kinetic Sand. Wheels in Action dropped 12.8%, driven by a decline in DC and Bakugan. Outdoor was down 11.7%. Q2 sales allowances were 11.2% as a percent of gross product sales, compared to 9.7%. A solid result considering the broader retail environment we were operating in. Q2 Adjusted EBITDA for Toys was CAD 47.7 million, compared to CAD 83.2 million at 13.8% margin, compared to 19%....The primary factor behind the lower EBITDA margin was the deleveraging effect of the reduction in toy revenue relative to administrative, marketing, and distribution expenses.

In Q2, entertainment revenue increased CAD 5.5 million, or 19.4%, to CAD 33.9 million from primarily higher distribution revenue from the first Paw Patrol movie, as well as new content deliveries of Vida the Vet, Rubble & Crew, and Unicorn Academy. These increases were offset by lower licensing and merchandising revenue. Adjusted operating income was CAD 16.3 million, down 9.4%, and adjusted operating margin was 48.1% compared to 63.4%. The decrease in entertainment profitability was driven by higher amortization of content production costs and lower licensing and merchandising revenue as a percentage of total entertainment revenue. Q2 revenue in digital games was slightly higher at CAD 40.5 million compared to last year.

This was a strong result for digital games, as mobile gaming in Q1 and Q2 2022 continued to benefit from COVID factors. Toca Life World was particularly strong in Q2 2023. Digital games adjusted operating margin in Q2 was 31.6%, up from 24.8%, because of lower marketing spending. Overall, Q2 consolidated gross margin was 54.9%, down from 56%, because of lower entertainment licensing and merchandising revenue, higher amortization of entertainment content, and higher sales allowances as a percentage of toy GPS, partially offset by favorable toy product mix. Consistent with the deleveraging we saw in Q1, SG&A in dollars was down year-over-year, but higher as a percentage of revenue.

SG&A was CAD 179.5 million, representing 42.7% of consolidated revenue, compared to CAD 190.4 million, or 37.6%. Marketing costs were down CAD 4 million, at 7.3% of revenue, compared to 6.9%. Administrative expenses were flat, with lower incentive compensation, personnel, and consulting costs offset by higher restructuring costs. We continued executing on our plan to close our last remaining manufacturing facility in Calais, France, which we inherited in 2013 with the acquisition of Meccano. As a result, we booked a restructuring charge of CAD 9.7 million in Q2, which is included in administrative costs. Adjusted SG&A was CAD 163.5 million, or 38.9% of consolidated revenue, compared to CAD 181 million, or 35.7%.

In Q2, net income was CAD 28 million or CAD 0.26 per diluted share, compared to net income of CAD 88.1 million or CAD 0.83 per diluted share. Adjusted net income in the quarter was CAD 48.8 million or CAD 0.45 per diluted share, compared to CAD 72.4 million or CAD 0.68 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was CAD 88.4 million, compared to CAD 113.7 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 21%, down slightly from 22.5% from lower operating leverage. Turning to the balance sheet, our on-hand inventory at the end of Q2 was in very good shape at just over CAD 150 million, down CAD 34 million compared to CAD 184 million last year.

We ended Q2 with CAD 554.9 million cash, down CAD 89 million from CAD 644 million at the year-end. Free cash flow in Q2 was CAD -5.9 million, compared to CAD +84.1 million, primarily from lower operating cash flow. Free cash flow was in line with our normal seasonality, where we consume cash in H1 as we build towards our seasonal peak, and then generate most of our free cash flow later in the second half each year. We continue to be in an extremely strong liquidity position, with available liquidity of over $1 billion. From a capital allocation perspective, investments in innovation, content, and M&A remain our top priorities. We continue to look at all avenues to maximize total shareholder value.

In Q2, we repurchased 156,200 shares for CAD 4.2 million, bringing the total to 397,700 shares year- to- date. We will continue to use the NCIB opportunistically and believe that, together with the dividend, this represents a prudent use of capital and an important part of our efforts to create value for shareholders. Turning to our outlook, 2023 has played out as we expected so far, and we are pleased to confirm our guidance for the full year. We should recognize that this is a unique macro environment, and that makes forecasting a challenge. Despite this macro backdrop, we are confident in our innovation, the strength of our entertainment and digital games content, and new toy launches planned.

We continue to expect the 2023 toy gross product sales to be flat to slightly down compared to 2022. In 2022, 45% of our gross product sales occurred in H1, compared historic compared to historical seasonality of 30%-35%, which created a difficult H1 comparator for us. This headwind will act as a tailwind in H2, especially in Q4, as the reversion to traditional seasonality, combined with a jam-packed toy entertainment and games release schedule, works in our favor. We expect sales allowances of approximately 13% for 2023, higher than our normal range of 10%-12%. This will allow us to ensure we meet our sell-through and year-end inventory targets, but will not negatively impact gross margins due to strong cost control measures and productivity within our supply chain.

We are maintaining our expectations for 2023 revenue to be in line with 2022, excluding the CAD 17 million Paw Patrol: The Mighty Movie distribution revenue expected in Q3. For the year, foreign currency translation is expected to provide a slight tailwind on revenue based on current market rates. We are maintaining 2023 Adjusted EBITDA margin guidance, which should be flat to slightly above 2022, excluding the CAD 17 million Paw Patrol: Mighty Movie distribution revenue. As a reminder, total depreciation and amortization is expected to increase from CAD 68 million in 2022 to just under CAD 145 million in 2023, primarily from more deliveries of entertainment content. From a phasing perspective, D&A will be approximately CAD 47 million in Q3 and CAD 55 million in Q4.

Our capital expenditures are now expected to be 6% of revenue, down from 7% we communicated earlier this year. We continue to invest in entertainment and digital games content. This change is simply a timing shift between 2023 and 2024 for certain entertainment and digital games content. Later this month, some of you will be joining us in Stockholm, Sweden, for a deeper dive into the incredible work taking place within our digital games creative center. The purpose of our trip is to highlight in more detail the incredible development that the teams have done in the lead up to the launch of several new digital games. We know it's a big investment, but for those of you not yet signed up who may be interested, please contact myself or Sophia.

To conclude, we will continue to leverage our integrated creative center platforms to generate above-industry growth in the medium to long term, and to leverage our IP, scale, and talent across our creative centers. Combined with a strong balance sheet, we intend to capitalize on both organic and acquisition opportunities, and in doing so, build long-term shareholder value. That concludes our prepared remarks. We will now be pleased to take questions. Operator, please open the line.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies, and gentlemen, we will now begin the question- and- answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a three tone prompt acknowledging your request, and your questions will be polled in the order they are received. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Your first question comes from Brian Morrison, TD Securities. Brian, please go ahead.

Brian Morrison
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Okay, thank you very much. First off, my condolences to Max and his family. Second, Mark, when I look at guidance, you've had revenue sort of in line with guidance the first half of the year, but pretty strong margins, more than we would've anticipated, I think. Implies maybe a bit of a tailwind or cushion in terms of your full year margin guide. Are you, at this time, more comfortable with your full year margin outlook following the first half performance and the potential to meet or exceed that? Is there some sort of offset that we should be thinking of in the back half of the year?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Hi, Brian. Good morning. Thanks. I, I would say to you, we are obviously pleased with our EBITDA performance. I think we've done well. We've managed our margins, we've managed our costs very well, and there's been a lot of focus from Max, myself, and the rest of the executive team on this. I think it's a good measure of our ability to keep our gross margins up and stable and manage our costs for the balance of the year. However, Brian, as you know, we're sitting in late July, early August. We have a long way to go. We have 70% approximate, approximately of our GPS still to come in the second half. There's a lot of macro uncertainties that still exist out there, which make forecasting a challenge.

The season is later this year because there's an extra shopping weekend before Christmas, and that'll also impact e-commerce purchases. Whilst we're optimistic and we obviously aim to beat, I think we collectively feel that prudence is still required, which is why that even though we beat guidance in Q2 on margins, we're still holding our guidance for the year.

Brian Morrison
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Appreciate that. Then I want to talk about digital games for a minute. You're talking about, obviously, the exciting launch of your digital product and growth in digital games, and I assume we'll get more color in Stockholm. You know, you've got this 20% forecast, and I'm wondering if you can provide some data points. Like, should we think of this growth? I think it's 8% today. Should we think that it's more organic? Is it more M&A? Is the M&A physical properties that you develop in-house or more digital platforms? Are the acquisition multiples more reasonable now, now that you might get something done on this front?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

I'm gonna answer the first part of that, and then I'll let Ronnen comment on, on that as well. I, I think, yeah, if you look at, if you look at digital games, we're actually at around 12.7% of our total revenue on a year-to-date basis coming out of digital games....So that business has grown, and it continues to grow, and, and, you know, we're excited about it. We're seeing some good activity happening in the digital game space right now. Toca Life World, in particular, is resonating very well, both in Q2 but also in July, we're actually very comfortable with that. I think at least for the initial part of our, our growth, we're looking at organic growth.

We've got a number of big games that are launching in the next 12 months. I'll let Ronnen discuss those, we're also continuing to look at M&A as a complement to that organic strategy. Ronnen, do you want to add some color to that?

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Yeah, for sure. Hey, Brian, how are you?

Brian Morrison
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Hey, Ronnen, nice to hear your voice.

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Yeah, likewise. You know, I think that we'll continue with our strategy, which is, first and foremost, being located in two incredible places in the world for digital games, one being Toronto and the other one being Stockholm, Sweden. That gives us the ability to hire incredible local talent, so the ability to create our own in-house studio, which is Nørdlight, which is producing the Unicorn Academy game. Being able to hire local talent and then do smaller acquisitions like we did with Nørdlight in Stockholm, which we'll meet, which is building the Rubik's Match game. Then the acquisition with Originator, which has been an incredible acquisition for the company, which is now actually responsible for putting out the Paw Academy game that's coming out this fall. I wouldn't actually call it a game.

I'd call it a platform. I can talk to it more if you're interested. It's interesting. Now we've made two small acquisitions, those small acquisitions are gonna put out some incredible games. Then we have our own studios that are continuing to do magical things. I think it's, you'll see a combination of both those things, moving into the future and also growing the existing studios that we have. Now we now have a total of five studios globally around the world, you will see growth within those studios moving forward.

Brian Morrison
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

It sounds like a combination, and in terms of M&A, it sounds like it's going to be more tuck-ins than anything of significant material size. Is that fair?

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Listen, you, you never know. I think that, the tuck-ins are working well for us, the organic's working well, but if there's an acquisition of size, to help grow this part of the business, we're not gonna shy away from it.

Brian Morrison
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Would the multiples be more reasonable today than they were, say, 12 months ago?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah, Brian, we've definitely seen the multiples come down in this space, particularly in the emerging or newer companies. That, you know, those multiples were very frothy about 12 to 24 months ago, and with rates going up and venture capital kind of drying up in that area, we've definitely seen multiples come down in the digital games world. That's true of, I think that's true of, of all areas, in fact, that we're seeing in the acquisition area. I think multiples have come down.

Brian Morrison
Equity Research Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you both very much.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Sabahat Khan, RBC Capital Markets. Sabahat, please go ahead.

Sabahat Khan
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, great. Thanks, and good morning. Mark, you gave some color earlier on just some of the, the prior year comps and how they played out. Can you maybe, you know, give a little bit of color on looking ahead, kind of the prior year comps, both on the shipping side and on the POS side, to help us think through the back half of the year, and maybe if you can also just tie in, just given all the moving pieces, your confidence on, you know, the full year guidance, both on the top line and on the margin front, and how confident you are at this point in the year?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Hi, Sabahat, good morning. That's, that's a big question. Let me, let me deal with it in two separate sections, if you don't mind. First, I'm gonna respond on the question around growth in the second half of the year and how we feel about that. Then I'll give you a little bit of a some color on our views on the comps and POS and everything that's going on, because obviously there's a lot of noise in the market around POS. I, I would say to you, when you look at the second half of the year, and you look at the toy area in particular, there are five factors that are driving growth and, and give us comfort for the year. Firstly, we have high-quality innovation that's coming out.

We've got Bitzee, we've got Bakugan, we've got Hatchimals Alive, and they're at the right price points. We think that innovation is gonna be critical to win in the second half this year. Secondly, we have incremental business that's coming. We have Rubble, which is new. We have Hexbugs, which we acquired. We have 4D, we have Gabby's, which is growing internationally very nicely, and we've got more, more points of distribution. Thirdly, we have a really good marketing strategy. I think our new CMO, CMO, Jeremy, has done a great job in terms of building out a strategy with the, with the, you know, agility, which is invested in key priorities, especially in the digital area, with strong content backing it up. We've got the Paw movie coming, which we're really excited about, and that it provides a halo effect.

I think the other key point for the second half is that we've got a really good pricing and promotional support. Our price point for the second half of this year, for the fall season, is less than $35 on average. We're helping consumers, and I think that's gonna be an important factor in the fall. Finally, I'd say to you that we have strong potential in digital games. I think that Toca Life World and other digital games areas are coming alive again, and so we're seeing some reemergence of growth there, and that's encouraging for us in the second half. If you actually look at it from a comp perspective.

Obviously, if you look at the POS, Sava, you know, it was not great in Q2 or in the first half in general. No one likes to see that. But I don't think you or anyone should really overread on the POS too much, because there was tremendously heavy clearance activity in the first half of the year. We had less inventory at retail to clear, and on-hand for that matter, and so, you know, we weren't the beneficiaries a lot of that clearance relet- related POS, because a big percentage of the POS was clearance-driven and very heavily promoted. If you look at our gross margins in toy relative to our competitors, you'll see that our gross margins were stable.

Our sales allowances were slightly higher, we did have some more, you know, enhanced promotional activity, but our gross margins were still stable and strong, which is an important point. In Europe, there was less inventory to clear, we outperformed. You know, even though POS in the U.S. was, was really bad in the first part of the second quarter, in late June and July, we've seen really good signs of consumption and growth reemerging. Prime Day is a good example of that. As I said to you, digital games is growing nicely as well. You know, overall, we feel confident that we're gonna get the tailwinds we expected in the second half, particularly when you look at the comps in the second half of 2023 against 2022. Sorry, that's a long answer, but I wanted to make it comprehensive for everyone.

Sabahat Khan
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

No, thanks for that. I guess you alluded to this a little bit. Just a question on the Paw Patrol movie. Can you maybe talk about, to the extent you can, you know, just your expectations for this movie, maybe in context of how the last one did and just kind of how you're planning for it, kind of through Q3 and Q4 with the products, product rollouts?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Sure. I'll answer the first part of that, and I'm going to ask Ronnen to just add some color around movies in general. 2021 was an August day and date release, and we were still in COVID. Day and date means that it went to theaters and streaming at the same time. This year, 2023, we're launching on the 29th of September, and it's actually got two windows. There's a 45-day theatrical exclusivity period before it goes to SVOD and streaming. That gives us two promotional windows and more marketing opportunities, so we feel good about that. It's also going to be in more theaters this year. It's in over 4,000 theaters, compared to 3,000 last year. There's also more retail points of distribution this year and more licensees.

We're actually licensing the paw product, generally, our toy is toy and non-toy in over 50 countries, and we've got 25 blue chip CPG licenses lined up. Obviously, that's great work by Paramount. Now, the other thing to keep in mind is that the later release at the end of September does have an impact. It's, it's good news for 2023 because we'll still get a big chunk of sales in 2023, but because it's later, we'll also have a flow-over and more impact in the first half of 2024 from the movie. As you would expect, you know, we always see a lift from a movie and you see a decline. That's normal. The reality is, we think that the decline will be less this time because of the flow-over into 2024.

We've also got the fact that Rubble is gonna be in its first full year in 2024, and that will help. That's some color around the movie, but Ronnen, do you wanna just give everyone a little bit of a sense of how you're thinking about movies in general?

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Yeah. Hey, Sabahat, I think that the second film is the quality of the film, the production, I think that it's, it's better than the first film. It's just such a different type of narrative to see the pups as superheroes come to the big screen. I'm just so proud of our team for being able to produce this film. Just to remind everybody that we produce the films in-house. We obviously finance the films partially ourselves, but the production is done in-house with Spin Master, with their own people. We don't outsource this, and the ability to do that is an incredible asset for the company and an incredible asset for us going forward. I'm really excited about the fact that we have this 45-day window. We're in more theaters.

It's gonna go on to Paramount + afterwards. The greatest thing about these films is that they have long lives, and the kids just watch them over and over and over and over again, and just reinforce and expand the whole Paw universe. Overall, I'm really excited. In terms of films, I think that we've seen, and I would actually say going back, but just basically in the last year, we've seen a lot of examples between Sonic and Mario and Barbie, just the strength of toy IP or, or kids-based IP being turned into films, and people wanting to see those IPs brought to life and those characters on the big screen.

We're very excited about this movie, and we're excited about turning Bakugan into a film and looking into our treasure chest and taking things like Tech Deck and potentially turning that into a film and things like Unicorn Academy. We're already working on scripts to turn that into a live action film. Lots of stuff to come from Spin Master in terms of the film area.

Sabahat Khan
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for that. Just one quick one. I, you know, there's some mention of the Paw Patrol app coming out later on in conjunction with the movie. I guess, just trying to think through the revenue side of that, is that more of a brand building platform? I think you indicated there's some games and things like that on there. Was just thinking how you plan to maybe monetize that, or is that just largely a marketing and brand building exercise, that app for Paw Patrol?

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Yeah, you know, if, if I was a developer, if I was Originator working on this and hearing this call, I, I would be a little upset because I wouldn't call it an app. It's, it's actually a, I'd say, it's a misnomer to call it an app. Maybe get it on the App Store, but it's, I would actually call it a platform, and it's 100% a revenue generator for, for the company. The reason why I use the word platform is because it's actually a combination of learning, music, and video all combined together. I have to just take my hat off to the whole digital team and to Originator for bringing this to, into birthing it, because we've been talking about doing something like this for 10 years. Yes, it will over...

enhance the overall franchise, but I think this is gonna be a catalyst to ignite our subscriber growth in our whole digital games area. we're currently sitting with about 330,000 subscribers, and this platform is going to kick in and drive a lot of subscriber growth. We'll be talking about it in the future in terms of what our outlook would look like and numbers and stuff like that. It's gonna retail for CAD 7.99?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

CAD 7.99 a month or CAD 49.99 a year.

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Yeah. This is to have 100%, this is a revenue driver for the company.

Sabahat Khan
Equity Research Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great! That was helpful color . Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Adam Shine, National Bank Financial. Adam, please go ahead.

Adam Shine
Managing Director and Assistant Head of Research, National Bank Financial

Thanks a lot. Obviously, my condolences to Max and his family, and welcome, Ronnen, back to the call. A couple of housekeeping items for you, Mark, and then maybe two, two more. First off, just in terms of the cost savings, you know, we've seen the restructuring charges move up into the CAD 10 million-CAD 11 million zone. Is that the level of related cost savings or potentially incrementally more than that?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

No. The cost savings on a run rate basis will be more than that, going forward, Adam, I think on the Calais side, we're looking at, around CAD 3 million a year, on a run rate basis, cost savings. The earlier workforce reduction we did earlier in the year is gonna be around CAD 10 million annualized. A total around CAD 13 million of run rate savings going forward.

Adam Shine
Managing Director and Assistant Head of Research, National Bank Financial

Okay, thank you. That's helpful. going back to your comment on sales allowance and the fact that it's a bit more, more towards 13%, I could see obviously, or we could all see the, you know, the, the increase in H1 for, for obvious reasons, some of which you've already touched on on this call. When I look, you know, to what the guidance then represents for H2, you know, can you speak a little bit more to that? 'Cause that seems to be tracking a bit higher, particularly in the context of what transpired last year, especially in the Q4. Then I'll follow- up with two more, please.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah, sure. Listen, I debated that 13% sentence in the script quite a bit. I'll tell you there's two, there's two reasons for it. One is, one is the fact that we've seen growth in Europe. Europe is a higher sales allowance environment, as I've explained to you before. There's just a geographic mix element to this, regardless, right? The second element is, I think, goes back to the overall tone that I answered, I think, Brian, this question on, on, on guidance in general and our EBITDA margin. You know, I, I think that the, the second half of the year, there will be more promotions, more discounting, and so we have factored that into our guidance and into our outlook, and I wanted to call that out for you.

I think if you speak to Chris Beardall and our sales team, I don't think they're actually gonna wanna spend that money, to be honest with you. We're gonna try not to, but we thought it would be prudent to call it out just because of the macro uncertainties. The one thing I will say to you, Brian, Adam, is that we don't think it's gonna reduce our gross margins because we're actually seeing some tailwinds coming from ocean freight. We're managing our supply chain costs very tightly. So from a gross margin perspective, that's neutral if you look at our guidance right now. If we don't need to spend it for whatever reason, then it will represent upside to margin.

Adam Shine
Managing Director and Assistant Head of Research, National Bank Financial

Perfect. Okay, I expected those to be the two, the two explanations. I just wanna wanted to hear you say that. you know, you've talked about how you're positioning for the consumer. You talked about the context of, you know, how, how things evolve in the second half. Can you just maybe talk a little bit about how retailers beyond, you know, the inventory, destocking dynamic that has largely run its course, you know, how they're thinking about the overall market? Does it remain, you know, very cautious, very last minute, a greater burden on you to take on more inventory? Can you just characterize, you know, the general retailer, particularly the big box retailers, as we move through the early part of Q3?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah. If you look at, if you look at the retail environment now, I think you have to look at it in the overall context of the cycle that we've been through, where if you, if you go back to the first half of last year, there was real concern about supply chains, and so retailers were building up their weak supply on hand quite significantly. We had the whole issue arising in the second half of 2022, all the macro factors that led to the massive overstocking and all the retail clearance activities that have happened in the first half. Retailers have been particularly cautious, very profit focused and very focused on reducing inventory and getting weeks supply way down. What we're seeing now is that things are starting to normalize.

... We've actually, we've really gone through that retail clearance activity. you know, weeks supply on hand are starting to normalize and overall, the retail tone is such that, you know, we've seen a turnaround towards the latter part of June and into July, where retailers are starting to actually position themselves now for the second half of the year, with many of the problems actually behind them and behind all of us.

Adam Shine
Managing Director and Assistant Head of Research, National Bank Financial

Okay. Just one last question for Ronnen. You know, the Rubik's Cube, as complicated as it is, at least has a solution. A lot of investors sort of look at your cash hoard and, you know, in the absence of perhaps patience and an eventual materially sized acquisition, it's a dilemma in terms of how to cope with, you know, a float that's, you know, certainly suboptimal. The fact that, you know, M&A has not been big, and you've alluded to a comfort in doing some of the tuck-ins. Maybe more from your perspective, the board's perspective, you know, how do you look at the cash hoard and at sort of, you know, the suboptimal leverage that, you know, clearly has not helped the stock?

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Well, first, I'd like to admit that I can only do one side of the Rubik's Cube. I can't do all six. I would say, listen, it's, it's a good problem to have. These are good problems to have. I'd rather have that problem than, than, you know, being, being drowning in debt. I think that, you know, people should look at Spin Master over the course of our 30-year track record and history, and, we're a prudent company, and when the opportunities arise, we'll be there, and we'll take advantage of them. It's been really, you know, choppy waters in the last few years, and sometimes, you know, you make the wrong acquisition, and you pay the price for it and start writing it down.

I think that we are a growth company, and we will allocate and deploy the cash to get the highest type of growth for the company and the best strategic growth for the company. That is, if that takes some more time, then I, I request the patience on behalf of the shareholders. It's funny, I was reading a, a Warren Buffett book last night, and they were talking about how he held on to the Washington Post for so many years, and when he bought it and, and how it was such an underleveraged stock and company, and people just didn't understand the value. I feel the same way about Spin Master.

I don't think people fully appreciate everything that's going on here in this company and all the levers that we have to drive growth and the depth of the portfolio. I'm super proud of our management for the way they've managed, especially these choppy waters, and to deliver the profitability and keep the margins high in this environment is incredible. I think that the strategy of our three creative centers are just starting to bear fruit, and you will see that coming out in this third and fourth quarter. The ability to produce the Paw Patrol Academy platform in conjunction, launching with the film, launching on package of QSR codes. That, that platform with the Paw Academy could not be outsourced.

You could not get the outcome of that, the quality of that platform and the innovation that you guys will see when it comes to market, if it was done or outsourced to another gaming company and licensed with some sort of licensing model. The same thing with Unicorn Academy. I mean, I'm so excited for that franchise to hit Netflix, starting with a special one-hour movie. It's incredible. The world, I wouldn't even call it a game, but the, the immersive fantastical world for kids that's gonna launch in the first quarter of next year, again, could not have been done by outsourcing it to another, to another party.

I think that, not I think, but that combination of the three creative centers and the amount of money that we're putting in, and I think the shareholders should look at the amount of capital allocation that we're starting to put into all our games and put into our entertainment franchise. We are deploying money. We're just being very strategic about it. I think that the story is continuing to be written, and I encourage people to dig deeper into the assets of the company and, and see our return to good quality growth coming into 2024 and 2025 and 2026.

Adam Shine
Managing Director and Assistant Head of Research, National Bank Financial

Thanks, Ronnen, for that. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Martin Landry, Stifel. Martin, please go ahead.

Martin Landry
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Hi, good morning, everyone. I, I would like to touch on, you know, new product introductions and, and, and the- your product portfolio for this fall. You know, you, you touched a little bit about it, you know, inflation and interest rates are, are stretching the consumer. You know, just want to hear you talk a little bit about your pricing strategy. I think you mentioned in a, in a previous question, that your average price is around $35. Just trying to understand how that compares to last year, that would be helpful.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Good morning, Martin. Thanks for the question. Yes, I, I did mention earlier, to, that our average price point for 2023 is actually less than $35. Let me just give you a little bit more context on pricing for toys. In the environment that we're in, with, with, you know, interest rates the way they are.

Consumers are stretched and are actually buying down, so to speak, from a price point perspective. There's definitely pressure on products above $70 retail. For us this fall, we only have two items that are greater than CAD 69.99 for fall 2023. One of them is the big Paw movie lead item with the egg carrier. We only have two. Our average price is less than $35, and that's down just around 10% from 2022's average price. If you look at the key drivers that we have for this fall, like, and I mentioned some of them earlier, like Bitzee, great innovation, CAD 29.99. Bakugan, Hatchimals Alive, these are all CAD 5-CAD 10 dollar price points. We think we are pricing the line very effectively to help the consumer.

Obviously, the consumer is gonna buy toys. Birthdays come and Christmas comes, and everything, you know, will drive regular purchases in toys, but we're helping them at the lower price points. The other point I just wanna call out while we're talking about pricing is that we're actually thinking hard about 2024 as well, and we expect the average prices to come down around another 9%-10% again from fall 2023. Pricing appropriately and our pricing strategy is a very big part of what, you know, Max and the commercial teams in toy, Chris Biddle and our marketing teams are looking at very closely.

Martin Landry
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Okay, that's helpful. Then, you know, you launched your new Paw Patrol toy line that's related to the movie. In your, in your press release this week, I think, there was five new toys that were featured. Just wondering, do you have more SKUs coming than, than those 5 toys in relation to the movie and the 10-year anniversary?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

I, I don't actually know the, the exact number of SKUs that are related to, to the movie. Certainly those are the five primary SKUs that we're promoting. Ronnen, do you, do you know any?

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

I don't have the exact number, but I know it's more than five. Yeah. I think we just highlighted those for the consumer. Yeah.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Martin, we can get back to you with the full line for the movie. There's definitely different price points as well, but those five were just highlighted in the press release. We can get back to you with a follow-up on that one.

Martin Landry
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Okay. Then I think you mentioned in that press release that, you know, the, the, those products are starting to be available on August first at retailers. Just want- wondering how, how does your shelf space look like for, for the toy line? Are you satisfied with where you're located? Do you have any end caps up- upcoming? Just love to hear a little bit about where you're positioned in the stores.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah, I think, I think our shelf space is, is either consistent with 2021 or even better. We have a lot of promotional activity, end caps, out of aisle, tremendous amount of promotional activity that's going on around the movie in store. I think the other point to call out is that we actually have more points of distribution. I think that's something that, you know, we're excited about, not only is the movie in more theaters, but we actually have more retail points of distribution. I think we have close to 300 points of retail distribution for the movie, and I think, it's, it's, it's certainly something, you know, we feel very comfortable and excited about.

Martin Landry
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Okay. And just to wrap this up, you know, you did say in your opening remarks that, you expect the, the Paw movie to have a, a similar boost to the toy line that, the first movie did. You know, if I recall correctly, you know, you had alluded to the first movie boosting your, your toy line sales by 20%-25%. Is that a fair expectation?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah, I don't wanna quote a specific number in terms of a forward-looking view on that, but I think in general, your point is correct. There's always a boost from the movie, and then, obviously as the movie tails off, that does come down. We expect the same profile, but what I would say to you, I just wanna key in on a point that I raised earlier, is that because we have a later release in 2023, it's nearly two months later than it was in 2021, there'll be more rollover and carryover of the movie toy line into the first half of 2024. We think, you know, that at least from a calendar perspective, the up and the down will be less pronounced.

Then also the fact that we actually have Rubble, in the line for a full year in 2024, as opposed to a partial year in 2023, will help soften some of that as well.

Martin Landry
Managing Director of Equity Research, Stifel

Great. Thank you.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Thanks, Martin.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies, and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star one on your touchtone phone. Your next question comes from John Zamparo, CIBC. John, please go ahead.

John Zamparo
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask about the international business, both, both Europe and rest of the world. These geographies seem to be continually materially better than, than North America. Obviously, there's the, the inventory issue with retailers in North America, but I'm wondering if, if there's anything else we should be focusing on there, particularly in Europe, that's not considered a high growth market?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah. Good morning, John. Just for operator and others, I think this will be our second-to-last question, just from a timing perspective. John, thanks, thanks for that question on international. You know, Europe POS was actually not great in the second quarter, but we are actually seeing strong activity in Europe, and it actually had far less inventory clearance activity and far less inventory issues than we had to deal with. I think if you look at our international business, we're in the early innings of our growth there because we've really been building out our international strategy now for around 10 years. Many of the markets that we're in, we've only been in for a few years.

We, we literally just opened Spain last year. Spain is going incredibly well for us. We're about to open Portugal on the first of January 2024, we move into Portugal. Even though we've, we've lost Russia as a market, which was around $20 million-$30 million of sales, our international business is growing. Our headquarters are based in London, but we have offices around Europe. Central Eastern Europe is expanding. You know, Germany is a growing market for us. It's one of the biggest toy markets in the world, and we have low penetration rates there. If you look at our market share in North America relative to our market share in Europe, you know, we're gonna see growth in, in Europe just, just to get back to what our North American type market share looks like.

If you actually think about the, you know, the growth in that market, there's a tremendous amount of potential still to come as we mature as a company.

John Zamparo
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. One quick follow-up. My guess is that the answer to this is still no, but is there any change in your view on whether you're impacted by the ongoing writers' strike?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

No, the writers' strike does not impact, what we're doing on the movie. You know, we're completing the movie now, and we're gonna deliver it, and it's animated, and it's done in Canada, so it really doesn't have much of an impact at all. I think the only impact on the movie for us might be some of the promotional activity regarding some of the actors and actresses that, that would normally be doing some promotional activity around the time of the launch. There might be a little bit of an impact on that from the strike. There might also be an impact, depending on when this gets resolved, on some of the movies in 2024 and 2025 that are coming out.

The big movies that are coming out in 2025, in early 2025, are the D.C. movies for Batman and Superman, which are currently scheduled to be in the first quarter of 2025. I don't know what impact this strike has on some of the schedules, but it's likely to cause some delays. Rene, do you have any other insights on that? That's it, John.

John Zamparo
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Okay. That's all from me. Thank you very much.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Thank you.

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Thank you.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

We'll make this the final question.

Operator

Yep. Your last question comes from Luke Hannan, Canaccord Genuity. Luke, please go ahead.

Luke Hannan
Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Thanks. Good morning. Just, just one from my end here. The Paw Patrol Academy or Paw Academy being a platform rather than a game, does imply that there's sort of a multi-layer multi-year approach to how it is that you're gonna be managing content on that, that platform. I'm just curious to know how the efforts of the team, I guess, are gonna be balanced between developing the content that's going to be on that platform versus maybe some of the other newer launches that you guys are gonna be having over the course of the next couple of years here.

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Sorry, when you mean the newer launches?

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Yeah, he's talking about the other games. That's what.

Luke Hannan
Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Correct. Yeah.

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Oh. You know, I think the, the most amazing thing is that, you know, we've been building up the capabilities to have five studios in the last number of years. The Paw Academy platform is being done by Originator, which is based in San Francisco. They're dedicated on this and this other game that we're bringing out in 2024 called Cubric. They're dedicated as a standalone, and all the other games have their own studios that are dedicated to it.

We've actually taken this interesting approach, which is kind of, the model that the largest, video game companies take, which is each studio has their own dedicated one or two titles, and that's what they specialize in, and they go deep, and they continue building that out over long periods of time, and they just become experts in, in that, in that domain.

Luke Hannan
Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Got it. Thank you.

Ronnen Harary
Chair and Co-Founder, Spin Master

Going on. Yeah. Thank you.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions. I will now turn it back for closing remarks.

Mark Segal
CFO, Spin Master

Well, thank you, everyone. It was good to talk to you today, and we look forward to seeing some of you, hopefully, in, in Stockholm in a few weeks for our Digital Games Investor and Analyst Day. We look forward to talking to you all again, in November with our Q3 results and conference call. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies, and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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