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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

May 27, 2022

Operator

Good morning. My name is Annis, and I'll be your conference operator today. I would like to Welcome you to Canopy Growth fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I will now turn the call over to Tyler Burns, Director, Investor Relations. Tyler, you may begin the conference call.

Tyler Burns
Director of Investor Relations, Canopy Growth

Thank you, operator. Good morning. Thank you all for joining us today. On our call, we have Canopy Growth Chief Executive Officer, David Klein, and Chief Financial Officer, Judy Hong. Before financial markets open today, Canopy issued a news release announcing our fiscal results for the fourth quarter and full fiscal year ended March 31, 2022. This news release is available on our website under the Investors tab and will be filed on EDGAR and SEDAR. We have also posted a supplemental earnings presentation on our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our discussion during this call will include forward-looking statements that are based on management's current views and assumptions, and that this discussion is qualified in its entirety by the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements included at the end of this morning's news release.

Please review today's earnings release in Canopy's reports filed with the SEC and on SEDAR for various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections. In addition, reconciliations between any non-GAAP measures to their closest reported GAAP measure are included in our earnings release. Please note that all financial information is provided in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Following prepared remarks by David and Judy, we will conduct a question-and-answer session where we will first address questions upvoted by verified shareholders using the Say Technologies platform. Following that, we will take questions from analysts. To ensure that we get to as many analyst questions as possible, we ask that they limit themselves to one question. With that, I will turn the call over to David. David, please go ahead.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Thank you, Tyler, and good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call. Today, I'll outline Canopy's strategy and the foundation we've built over the past fiscal year, along with the key accomplishments in fiscal 2022, which support our fiscal 2023 priorities. Judy will then discuss Canopy's Q4 and fiscal 2022 results and provide greater detail on our ongoing work to accelerate our path to profitability. In fiscal 2022, we built a solid foundation for growth and clearly defined how Canopy will realize the massive opportunity ahead of us, not only as a company, but as part of a developing industry. Canopy Growth is a premium branded North American cannabis company with a fairly simple strategy.

We're focused on building beloved brands in markets and categories that will drive growth for the industry with strong routes to market that meet our consumers where they prefer to purchase, underpinned with operational excellence. In fiscal 2022, three distinct work streams were completed to build this foundation. First, we premiumized our cannabis branded portfolio in Canada. Second, we strengthened distribution of our high-performance CPG brands in the U.S. Third, we took concrete actions to build a competitive U.S. THC ecosystem. As it relates to premiumizing our Canadian cannabis brand portfolio, we maintained the number one market leadership position in premium flower in Canada. Through upgrades to our cultivation processes and facilities, we're consistently producing premium and mainstream flower with attributes that consumers demand. Our share of mainstream flower nearly doubled, a direct reflection of our focus on premium cultivation trickling down to our mainstream offerings.

We bolstered our premium cannabis portfolio by expanding DOJA, the best of the West Coast, into a truly national brand by bringing new flower, pre-rolled joints, and live resin vape products to consumers across Canada. 7ACRES continued to innovate and deliver industry-leading premium flower and infused pre-rolled joints, which we've highlighted through the Know to Grow series, providing an inside look at the talent, genetics, and grow techniques behind the brand and flower portfolio, highlighting the 7ACRES facility. In addition, we rebranded our iconic Tweed brand, which coincided with the new Tweed flower in pre-rolled joints that have drawn very positive consumer feedback. The new look made formats and strains easier to identify for consumers, and new flower packaging was designed to preserve freshness. We're also ensuring Canopy has a strong roadmap of new genetics supported by exclusive breeding rights with top craft growers.

We've taken best practices from the 7ACRES facility and implemented hang-dry capabilities at our Smiths Falls and Mirabel sites, as well as upgraded feeding systems, air circulation, and humidity control in flower rooms to consistently grow product with high THC and other in-demand attributes. In the face of a highly competitive Canadian adult- use market, we extended our beverage portfolio with Deep Space Limon Splashdown and Orange Orbit flavors and launched new Tweed Iced Tea and Tweed Fizz Seltzer beverage lines. Strong demand for these new beverages raised Tweed to the number one market share for under 5-milligram THC beverages, and Deep Space is the fastest-growing and number two brand in the over 5-milligram THC category.

We also introduced new gummies under the hero banners of Deep Space, Tweed, and Ace Valley, ranging from 2.5 milligrams to 10 milligrams with a rapid onset. We're investing significant resources in our commercial ground game in Canada, with higher education, our budtender engagement program. Budtenders are critical in guiding consumer purchase decisions. The goal of higher education is to strengthen our relationship with budtenders through investments in educational resources and dedicated unboxing sessions. To date, we've had close to 4,000 budtender interactions and have received valuable feedback from this important group. The second set of work we completed in fiscal 2022 was the significant strides made to strengthen the distribution of our high-performance CPG brands in the U.S.

We're continuing to see strong demand for Storz & Bickel's gold standard vaporizers, including the new VOLCANO ONYX and MIGHTY+, which help propel Storz & Bickel to its 22nd consecutive year of revenue growth. Storz & Bickel vaporizers set the industry standard for quality and performance with strong recognition among connoisseurs and mainstream consumers. In fact, the Storz & Bickel MIGHTY was recently highlighted by The New York Times for producing the best-tasting vapors of any portable vaporizer they tested. BioSteel saw gains in distribution and sales velocity of their ready-to-drink products, which drove a 50% increase in revenue in fiscal 2022 versus fiscal 2021.

We believe that this challenger brand is quickly turning into a winner as we watch members of Team BioSteel dominate in the playoffs, including Luka Dončić of the Dallas Mavericks, Connor McDavid of the Edmonton Oilers, and Andrew Wiggins with the Golden State Warriors. Lastly, I'm pleased to share the concrete actions completed in fiscal 2022 that have built a competitive U.S. THC ecosystem that will provide Canopy with turnkey entry into the U.S. market. Canopy's model is fundamentally different from our competitive set, giving us unique positioning in the U.S. with our THC assets that include Acreage, Wana Brands, Jetty Extracts, and a sizable ownership stake in TerrAscend. I want to be clear, we aren't waiting for U.S. legalization to start extracting value from these assets. We've already paid for majority ownership positions in Wana and Jetty, with Acreage and TerrAscend offering valuable routes to market.

Critically, all these entities are already generating healthy profits. Our US ecosystem has significant room to grow with footprints in large addressable markets. Acreage is well-positioned to win in key Northeast states such as New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. In fact, both Acreage and TerrAscend are benefiting from the recently opened adult use cannabis market in New Jersey. We have a strong brand portfolio, including Wana, which is the number one cannabis edibles brand in North America, and Jetty, a top 10 cannabis brand in California and a top five brand in the vape category. As a leader in solventless vape technology, Jetty has proven itself in the highly competitive California cannabis market and is primed for rapid national expansion by leveraging Canopy's US ecosystem.

Jetty also gives us a critical route to market in California, which will pave the way for our high-impact Canadian brands such as Deep Space and Tweed. We're actively working to bring the Jetty brand and its innovative products to the Canadian market. We've seen the success that Wana, a highly respected premium U.S. brand, has had in Canada and look forward to bringing Jetty to consumers north of the border. When you add all these elements together, Canopy is among the top five cannabis players across North America. In fact, if you consider Canopy's annual revenue combined with the reported revenue of our U.S. THC ecosystem of Acreage, Wana, and Jetty, Canopy would generate over $1 billion in revenue with healthy margins. I firmly believe in the strength and competitive positioning in the U.S. THC ecosystem we're building.

Canopy's unique model is poised for rapid growth and emphasis on prioritized markets with fast-growing categories, strong brands, and a balanced operations footprint. Now I'd like to move to the strategic priorities that we'll focus on in fiscal 2023 that are designed to build on the foundation we built in fiscal 2022. Priority one is to continue improving the performance of our Canadian cannabis business and achieve profitability as soon as possible. Judy will outline our work on margin improvement as a core element of achieving positive EBITDA, but there are multiple aspects of this effort. We must continue to drive to win in premium categories that support higher margins.

We also expect our pipeline of new products coming to market in fiscal 2023 will strengthen our competitive positioning and, along with efforts to win the ground game with retailers, will drive market share gains. Our second priority is driving the growth of our high-potential CPG brands. We will be making strategic investments in marketing and new product development for our high-growth CPG brands of Storz & Bickel and BioSteel. There's considerable runway for both brands, and investment will be made to further build brand awareness and visibility among consumers and build a robust distribution pipeline. I'd like to reiterate that Storz & Bickel is already a $100 million brand with attractive margins. BioSteel is the fastest-growing sports hydration drink in North America, and our near-term aspiration is to grow the brand into a top- five position as we significantly increase distribution through continued onboarding of major retailers.

In US CBD, we await the regulatory unlock required to truly tap this category's potential, and we're adapting our approach by increasing focus on a direct-to-consumer e-commerce retail model and select key account partners, an approach that is currently winning with our Martha Stewart CBD brand. While this narrower approach is likely to mean more measured growth for our US CBD business over the medium term, we remain optimistic that following the passage of clear regulations to support a national CBD market, our leading brands are positioned to win. Lastly, we're focused on further strengthening our US THC ecosystem. We remain firm in our belief that investing in high-quality US THC assets gives Canopy the competitive positioning that will enable us to win in the largest cannabis market in the world and create significant value over time. We've done this now and not waited for a number of reasons.

We believe the components of our ecosystem are highly complementary. Most importantly, we have strong heritage brands that are highly scalable for the large East Coast recreational markets. Working together in the future, these companies will create synergies that will result in significant business growth for our ecosystem, meaning greater shareholder value generated for Canopy. Finally, we continue to benefit from our strategic relationship with Constellation Brands by leveraging their experience and capabilities to support the continued advancement of our US strategy, specifically in the areas of commercial sales, marketing, and operations. In summary, over the past year, we've taken decisive steps to focus Canopy, aligned our operations with market realities, and succeeded in premiumizing our brand offerings to meet the desires of our consumers and to match our vision for growth.

Lastly, we've built and continue to strengthen what we feel is the industry's strongest, fully North American premium branded company. With that, I'll now turn it over to Judy.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Great. Thank you very much, David, and good morning, everyone. I plan to focus my comments on a quick review of our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 results, discuss in detail the actions that we're taking to advance our path to profitability, and provide some perspectives on our fiscal 2023 outlook. Let's start with a review of our fourth quarter and our fiscal 2022 financial results. In Q4, healthy performance in our CPG business was offset by softness in our Canadian recreational business, and Adjusted EBITDA was further impacted by continued gross margin challenges despite a strong operating expense discipline. In Q4, we generated net revenue of CAD 112 million, representing a 25% decline over the prior year. Excluding the impact from acquired businesses and the divestiture of C3, net revenue in Q4 declined 26%.

Details and drivers of net revenue in Q4 and fiscal 2022 are provided in the press release that we issued earlier today. Let me briefly touch on our Canadian recreational B2B revenue performance. In fiscal 2022, we made a deliberate decision to transition our Canadian business to focus on higher- margin, mainstream, and pro-premium products. We deliberately chose to not chase low- margin value flower sales, and for a cannabis company, transitioning your product mix can be challenging. As we continue to focus resources on actively pursuing low- margin value flower sales, our Canadian recreational cannabis business would have delivered significantly stronger revenue in fiscal 2022, but at the expense of doing what was right, which was putting our Canadian cannabis business on a path to sustainable growth and profitability. I'm pleased that efforts to premiumize our business in Canada is.

Drove over 25% revenue growth in our premium brands with strong growth from Doja and Deep Space brands during Q4. We also delivered a positive mix shift with premium and mainstream sales accounting for a combined 56% of Canada recreational B2B sales in Q4 of fiscal 2022, up from 32% in Q4 of last year. Turning to gross margins, our reported gross margin in Q4 was -142%, and our adjusted gross margin was -32%, which excludes the impact of CAD 4 million inventory step-up charges from the Supreme acquisition, as well as a CAD 119 million charge, mostly related to inventory write-downs resulting from strategic changes to our business.

Now, similar to prior quarters, gross margin in Q4 was further impacted by lower production output and price compression in the Canadian recreational business, higher supply chain costs, as well as inventory write-downs. Excluding inventory write-downs and payroll subsidies received from the Canadian government pursuant to a COVID-19 relief program, Q4 adjusted gross margin would have been negative 18%. Adjusted EBITDA in Q4 amounted to a loss of CAD 122 million. I'd like to now take this opportunity to speak to the efforts underway to improve our profitability. As David mentioned, achieving profitability in our Canadian operation is a key priority for us, and we've taken additional steps to improve our gross margins and reduce our SG&A spending. First, on gross margins. Over the past couple of years, we've faced three key headwinds for gross margins in Canada.

One, lower production output driven by reduced sales put significant burden on our fixed cost structure in our Smiths Falls manufacturing facility. Second, a combination of an unfavorable mix and price compression, particularly in our flower business, pressured net revenue and gross margins. Third, we incurred significant non-cash costs that amounted to nearly CAD 120 million in inventory write-downs in fiscal 2022, which we did not exclude from our adjusted gross margin as well as Adjusted EBITDA. A CAD 47 million of depreciation cost, which is included in our cost of goods sold. When adjusted for non-cash costs and the benefit from payroll subsidy, our cash gross margins in the global cannabis segment is estimated to be at 7% in fiscal 2022. We expect our cash gross margins in fiscal 2023 to improve significantly versus last year, driven by a few factors. First, our premiumization strategy.

We anticipate continued shifts in our Canadian recreational sales to higher margins, premium and mainstream flower and pre-rolled joints, edibles, beverages, and vapes. Second, our cost savings program should drive reduction in our cost of goods sold. Our cultivation productivity initiatives, including improvement in facilities, are expected to lower per gram cultivation costs. We're also reducing indirect fixed costs in our operations as we move to a more flexible manufacturing platform by outsourcing production of certain products. We've developed a number of productivity initiatives across manufacturing, supply chain, and procurement. In addition, we've improved our demand forecasting process to ensure that we're more agile in adjusting our production to reduce further inventory write-offs.

Some of these savings are expected to be offset by higher wage inflation and supply chain costs, but we are committed to delivering savings of CAD 30 million-CAD 50 million over the next 12-18 months, and we plan to look for additional opportunities to capture more savings throughout this fiscal year. The other key initiative is reducing our SG&A expenses. During fiscal 2022, we incurred 400 million of selling and marketing, G&A, and R&D expenses. Over the past few months, we took a hard look across all of our areas of our SG&A spending with realities that our expense structure was too high to support our near-term revenues. This has resulted in several cost savings initiatives, which we expect will reduce our SG&A expenses by 70-100 million over the next 12-18 months.

Roughly half of the savings is expected to come from reduced headcount across our businesses as we have further tightened our strategic focus and streamlined our business. The remainder is expected to come from lower professional fees, office costs, insurance fees, and IT costs. Let me now provide some perspectives on our financial outlook. Based on our fiscal 2022 results, changes to our business mix due in part to divestiture and continued volatility in the Canadian recreational market, we are removing our medium-term financial targets that were provided in February of 2021. We also believe that shifting consumer preferences, low barriers to entry in the Canadian recreational market, and slow regulatory progress across Canada and U.S. make it difficult for us to provide near- to medium-term targets.

That said, we expect the execution of our premiumization strategy in Canada, our cost savings initiatives, and growth in BioSteel and Storz & Bickel will over time result in strong revenue growth, attractive margin profile, and free cash flow generation that are in line with premium branded CPG companies. With that in mind, let me offer some perspectives on our outlook for fiscal 2023. First, we expect significant revenue growth from BioSteel as the team drives higher distribution and sales velocity, which is supported by sizable marketing investments in fiscal 2023. We expect another year of solid growth from Storz & Bickel, building on its strong foundation with investments to increase higher awareness. Our Canadian recreational B2B business is expected to show improved performance as it benefits from premiumization strategy and new product launches, with the growth weighted towards the second half of the year.

Our Europe and rest of the world business is expected to show strong year-over-year growth in medical sales in Germany, Australia, as well as continued opportunistic bulk sales to Israel. Our US CBD business will see a tighter focus against our brands, with emphasis on the e-com channel and key direct-to-ship accounts as we wait for further regulatory progress. From a phasing standpoint, we expect revenue growth on a year-over-year basis to be weighted to the back half, reflecting continued mix away from value flower that really began in earnest in the second half of last year and the timing of our new product shipments in Canada. Second, we expect fiscal 2023 to show significant improvement in our profitability, with expectations that this year being a transition year as we work towards profitability.

We are already profitable in select areas of our business, and we intend to further improve our profitability in S&B and This Works in fiscal 2023. We're focused on achieving profitability in our Canadian business as soon as possible, as we execute against our cost savings program to achieve profitability. During fiscal 2023, we intend to make strategic marketing investments in BioSteel to drive increased velocity, and as we've secured a significant number of doors over the past several months. We also plan to make investments in our U.S. THC ecosystem strategy. To be clear, our P&L reflects investments that we're making against the development and execution of our THC strategy in the U.S., but none of the revenue and profit in our U.S. THC investments are included in our P&L.

We anticipate to achieve positive Adjusted EBITDA in fiscal 2024, with the exception of strategic investments in BioSteel and advancement of our U.S. THC strategy. Let me now speak to our cash flow and balance sheet. We anticipate cash interest payments of at least CAD 120 million based on our current debt position in fiscal 2023, and our full-year CapEx is expected to be in the range of CAD 50-60 million. Our balance sheet remains strong with CAD 1.37 billion of cash and short-term investments as of our fiscal year-end. We have $2 billion of base shelf available to us, as well as additional debt capacity of $500 million. Regarding our convertible notes that are set to mature in July 2023, we have several options that we're currently reviewing and will update once we have any news to share.

We're diligently working to reduce our cash burn through OpEx savings, discipline around CapEx, and other initiatives that we are planning to really look into for fiscal 2023. Also, we expect cash proceeds from some of the divestitures of the non-core businesses. In conclusion, achieving profitability is critical for us, and we've undertaken initiatives to streamline and drive additional efficiencies for our global cannabis business. We're focused on executing our path to profitability in Canada while we continue to invest in high-potential opportunities, particularly in our BioSteel business, and to further develop our US THC ecosystem. This concludes my prepared comments. We'll now take questions. To begin your Q&A session, we'll first address investor questions that were upvoted through the questions and answer platform developed by Say Technologies. Tyler, can you take the first question?

Tyler Burns
Director of Investor Relations, Canopy Growth

How do you plan to incentivize shareholders as well as bring in new investors in this volatile market?

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Thank you for the question. So, I think the share price decline is really not unique to Canopy. When you look at the share price performance of the U.S. and Canadian LPs, many of those names are down pretty substantially from a share price standpoint. Now, from Canopy's standpoint, we are focused on really controlling what we can control, which is really laying the foundation for long-term sustainable growth, and really building a premium brand in cannabis company as the market goes through these types of cycles. Now, for investors with a long-term focus, we believe that Canopy really represents a compelling value, as we do have a unique and compelling strategy to win in the North American cannabis market.

We're really excited to engage and educate many of the current shareholders, and as well as new investors, going forward.

Tyler Burns
Director of Investor Relations, Canopy Growth

Okay. Thank you, Judy. The second question is, how is Canopy planning to make a name for itself in the U.S. market?

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah. As I called out in my script, we're not waiting because we're already doing this with brands like Wana edibles, with Jetty Extracts, and along with our MSO partners in Acreage and TerrAscend. We already have a sizable and profitable and growing U.S. presence, which across North American cannabis, with that focus on brands as well as a premium positioning. We think that surely like everyone else, we would benefit from the opening of the U.S. market from a federal permissibility standpoint, but we don't have to wait for that in order to have our businesses work together to create value in that marketplace.

As Judy pointed out, the difficult component of this strategy is communicating it because we don't consolidate their results into our results. For many of these assets, we've paid for them, and so while the cash has left our balance sheet, you're not seeing the P&L and cash flows from those businesses accrue to us. You know, rest assured that they're continuing to grow while the market grows in the US. You know, the other thing I just wanna point out there as well is that we, as well as people in the industry and experts around the industry, continue to believe that the North American cannabis market is in that $60 billion-$80 billion range at revenue.

That's not the hope that you sometimes see in a nascent industry that consumers are gonna adapt the products that you offer in that industry. This is an industry that's what we're looking at is how to shift consumers from the illicit market to the legal market. I think that the size of the prize in the industry, and in the US in particular, remains dramatic, and we think we're well-positioned to perform there. Operator, Judy and I are now happy to take questions from the analysts.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now conduct the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you'd like to withdraw your question, press star two. To ensure an efficient call that gets to the questions of as many analysts as possible, analysts are requested to limit themselves to one question. Your first question comes from Vivien Azer with Cowen. Please go ahead.

Vivien Azer
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Cowen

Hi. Thank you. Good morning.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Good morning.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Morning.

Vivien Azer
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Cowen

Judy, I just wanted to follow up on your commentary around the outlook for 2023. Appreciate that clearly it will be back half-weighted given the accelerating year-over-year declines that you guys are seeing for the total enterprise, and in particular for B2B. But as I look at the B2B segment specifically, it sounds like you guys are making some very specific, painful, but strategic decisions in terms of portfolio mix. But is it reasonable to think that segment can grow next year on a full year basis? Thanks.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Vivian, I'll make a couple of comments, and David, you can also chime in as needed. I think you have to think about the shift that we've made throughout fiscal 2022 from a premiumization strategy, where when you look at the first half of our last fiscal year, we still have sizable value flower sales that were flowing through our revenue base. On a year-over-year basis, I would expect that impact would continue to show up on a year-over-year basis with the value flower sales really being de-emphasized within our portfolio. I think the good news is on a sequential basis, we're starting to see stabilization even in our overall sales.

I think the other good news is when you look at the market share performance of our premium brands in market, we really do think the evidence is that those brands are starting to gain traction in the marketplace and showing good momentum with the consumers. When you look at all of the premium segments, including flower, pre-roll joints and other categories, we are number one in all of the premium segments collectively. I think we've made really good strides. The premium segment itself is also growing on a year-over-year basis.

We feel pretty confident that as we execute on our premiumization strategy, that the growth of the category as well as our market share momentum will mean in the back half that we will see much improved performance from a Canada rec B2B perspective.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

The only thing I would add to that, Judy, is I think the key component of being able to win in mainstream and premium is the ability to consistently grow high THC, good terpene profile flower. We made some decisions during the course of the year to change the way we grow our plants in terms of feeding schedules and irrigation and lighting. We've made adaptations around our post-harvest process, in particular in areas like hang dry. We've started to add to our final packaging packets that allow us to retain moisture levels in our finished goods when they're going out to consumers. We've done all these things so that we can continue to consistently deliver flower in particular for the premium and mainstream segments.

To me, that's been the biggest issue, not just for us, but for many of the LPs over the last couple of years, is the ability to consistently remain on the shelf with the right value proposition. We think given all the changes we've made, we're there. With the caveat as Judy called out, that because it's an ag business, it takes a while for us to be fully producing at the attribute level that we wanna be producing at, but we're getting really close.

Operator

Your next question comes from Tamy Chen with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Tamy Chen
Director and Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Yeah, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to go back to the adjusted gross margin for the cannabis segment. I guess firstly, it's just a quick two-part of the question here is, Judy, sorry, you threw out a bunch of numbers like 18% gross margin excluding, I think there was COVID subsidies or write-downs or something. If you could just clarify that. Then there was a 7% gross margin that you also threw out. That's sort of the first little housekeeping item. Then just my second main question is, I just wanna go back to why the cannabis segment gross margin was so low this quarter.

Like, was it just that, because of all the difficult changes you've had to make, it was really sort of a one-time moment of, lower production that really couldn't offset the fixed costs? Or was there something else there that just really caused the margin to capitulate there? How do we think about that going forward the next couple of quarters here? Thank you.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Sure, Tamy. On your first question about sort of reconciling the adjusted gross margin percentages. The adjusted gross margin of negative 18%, when you look at what we reported on an adjusted gross margin basis, so negative 32%, that basically still includes the non-cash inventory write-downs that are not related to any of the strategic decisions that we made in Q4. There's a big chunk of that that's dragging down our adjusted gross margin. We did have a modest benefit in terms of our CEWS or the payroll subsidy payment. When you account for those factors, we estimate that we would've been at around negative 18% in our global cannabis business from a gross margin standpoint.

Now the 7% gross margin comment really related to the full year number. As I said earlier, excluding some of the non-cash costs, 'cause we also incurred some of that inventory write-downs earlier in the year. On a full year basis, if we excluded non-cash inventory write-downs, which are still part of the adjusted gross margin and Adjusted EBITDA in our P&L, we excluded non-cash depreciation costs, and then we also comp out the CEWS payment. Sorry, the payroll subsidy that we do not expect to continue in FY 2023. We would've been at around 7% from a cash gross margin basis for the cannabis business.

I hope that addresses your question on those numbers. From a cannabis gross margin performance in Q4, I'd say the inventory write-downs, you know, there's been, and frankly, a volatility in that number throughout the year. I think that is partially a function of continued shifting consumer preferences and our pivot in our strategy to really move away from value flower. As that has happened, we've decided to take some of those inventory write-downs as a result. I think the other factor is some of the price compression and the margin compression that we have seen in the cannabis market broadly.

I think as we come out of this premiumization shift, we expect our gross margins to benefit on a go-forward basis as we benefit from the mix improvement. As I said earlier, if we can really improve our demand forecasting process, which really have spent a lot of time on and reduce some of that inventory write-down, and then achieve the cost savings that we've outlined, we do expect a sizable improvement in our cash gross margins performance in our Canadian operations.

Operator

Your next question comes from Chris Carey with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Chris Carey
Senior Equity Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Good morning.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Morning.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Morning.

Chris Carey
Senior Equity Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

I just wanted to follow up on the question around gross margins. I think you mentioned the you kind of see a 7% gross margin underlying rate. Obviously, that's much better than the adjusted number in the quarter, but probably not satisfying to you over time in order to run a profitable business. Perhaps that becomes a bit of a challenge even with the SG&A reductions which you've announced. When we get through all of the mix evolution and the right sizing of the products that you want for the market, where do you see the gross margin for this business trending over a very long-term horizon? Do you have some sort of idea of where that is?

Secondly, on the non-cannabis gross margins, I wonder if you can just expand a bit on some of the factors that drove the sequential decline. Clearly, we're seeing inflation impacting a number of non-cannabis categories. Can you maybe, you know, expand on those and what you're doing to try and alleviate some of that pressure as we get into fiscal 2023?

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Sure, Chris. So yeah, I mean, look, we are focused and committed to gross margin improvement across all areas of our business, including cannabis and the CPG businesses. Now, if I just go through each of our businesses, note that we are already profitable and carry a healthy gross margin in Storz & Bickel, This Works, and international medical business. With the Canadian business, I talked about this in our prior question, but it's really some of the price compression and the non-cash cost that we've been incurring that's been really pressuring the gross margin.

As we execute our premiumization strategy and see the benefit of that mix improvement, as we achieve our cost savings that we've outlined, we do believe that we can achieve 35%-40% cash gross margin in our Canadian business over time. I think that is a margin structure that we think is reasonably attractive. For BioSteel, our growth margin in the near term, and frankly in Q4, was hampered by a higher co-packing cost as well as increased distribution and warehousing costs. This is in part a function of us scaling up in terms of the revenue as well as just the higher supply chain cost that everyone in the industry is incurring, including fuel costs.

We do have a number of initiatives in flight to reduce our co-packing costs, distribution and warehousing expenses, and we do expect improvement in the gross margins in the BioSteel business in fiscal 2023 and beyond. Globally, as you mentioned, we are dealing with some of the current inflationary pressure, wage inflation, the supply chain costs that are going up. We do believe that our cost savings program should drive overall improvement in gross margins in fiscal 2023, as well as on a go-forward basis.

Again, if we can think about our cash gross margin in the Canadian business in that 35%-40% range, and then the rest of the other businesses actually carrying a higher gross margin, we do think that over time we can be in that 40%+ gross margin as a total company.

Operator

Your next question comes from John Zamparo with CIBC. Please go ahead.

John Zamparo
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask about the EBITDA guide maybe from the revenue side. The cost cuts you announced get you to around one-third of the delta on current run rate EBITDA versus your target. Presumably you're planning for some significant sales growth. The changes you're referencing, especially in the Canadian market, are also ones competitors are undergoing. This is a market that's now growing 20%-30% a year. To get to your EBITDA guide, you'd need to grow significantly above that rate. I'm wondering what gives you the confidence you'd be able to get there given the pace of the market growth and given the level of competition you're seeing and presumably no end of price compression in sight. Thanks.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah. You know, I think that we're gonna continue to see strong competition in the Canadian market. I believe that we have some brands that are beginning to resonate with consumers, although it's Canada still isn't a full out brand story yet. I think our ability to execute at retail is exceptionally strong, and I talked about our

Our work with budtenders and our work in general in our ground game to get out at retail. Look, we're in a challenged retail environment at the moment with a lot of retailers having difficulty in the market right now, and we're able to work hand in hand with them to help them perform. We think that those items, coupled with our ability to grow premium quality flower consistently at large scale in Canada, ends up being a differentiator. You know, I will point out that we've retained the number one position in premium again this quarter, and we doubled our share in particular on the back of our Tweed brand in the mainstream segment.

The areas we're focusing on are showing green shoots. It's just the broader mix shift that Judy outlined that puts a significant drag on our revenue line.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

John, the only comment I would add though is that we do believe that making strategic investments in growth areas of the business like BioSteel and our U.S. THC strategy is still a critical part of our strategy. I think from our perspective that we can be more profitable if we choose not to invest in those areas, with that in mind. You know, we really are bullish on the prospects of BioSteel being the challenger brand in the fast-growing premium hydration segment in the U.S. market. As I said, we do have a compelling U.S. THC strategy that we are willing to invest against them.

It's really the investments in those areas, but ensuring that we can be profitable in all the other areas of our business.

Operator

Your next question comes from Andrew Carter with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Andrew Carter
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Stifel

Thank you. Good morning. My first question or it's actually all kind of related to the ecosystem in general. First one is, you've now done Jetty and Wana. Correct me if I'm wrong, on the agreement with Acreage, they have a first right of refusal ability to look at that. So I assume that they're going to be launching those brands soon in New Jersey, New York, and I believe there's also an MSA fee, which I think would help them and therefore help you.

Second part of my question is, with kind of what you've kind of committed to today on the cost structure side and pushing break-even EBITDA out to 2024, how does this not put Constellation Brands in the position to where they can either realize the success if you're successful, or be in that position of last resort to extract value or just simply walk away? Thanks.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah. What I'll say, Andrew, is that Constellation Brands remains committed to our business. Judy talked about some of the supply chain issues, for example, around distribution for BioSteel. Well, we actually have a Constellation Brands person fully dedicated to helping us unlock value from an operations standpoint. We also have people working in field and trade marketing as well as in distribution and sales. We're working very well together. I think, you know, for Constellation Brands, they remain committed. They still have a controlling stake in the business. They intend to retain that controlling stake in the business. Everything we do, and in particular as it relates to the U.S., is done jointly with them.

I believe it continues to be a very productive relationship between our companies. Yeah, you know, their expectation is that the combination of getting profitable with our premium Canadian strategy and being able to deliver on our already profitable and fast growth U.S. THC ecosystem and bring it all together, they believe along with us that that creates a really big value unlock at the right point in the future.

Operator

Your next question comes from Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Michael Lavery
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Thank you. Good morning. I just wanna come back to the EBITDA guidance and just sort of unpack it a little bit and try to understand the magnitude of the profitability headwinds that you anticipate from BioSteel and U.S. THC even by fiscal 2024. I guess partly would love to understand if the M&A activity you're doing in the U.S. it doesn't flow through the P&L, and those deals obviously are conditional on U.S. federal laws changing. What operating costs do come through that that are related to U.S. THC, and how significant are those? On the BioSteel side, it was growing quickly, but obviously just a little under 10% of revenues last year. What does it take for that to be profitable?

Is it so unprofitable that it overshadows obviously the entire rest of the business? I just would love to put all that together.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

I'll start, and David, you can also add any additional color. Michael, as I said earlier, we do view those BioSteel and U.S. THC strategies as critical strategic investments that we're making. I'm not going to give you exact dollar amounts in terms of the investments, but we do have sponsorships that we've signed on with, you know, sporting teams and the athletes. We also are really excited about the distribution that we've gained over the last several months. We've got 53,000 doors that are committed, that we've got commitments in for FY 2023. We really view FY 2023 as an important year for BioSteel to unleash all of those distribution points that we've gotten to drive sales velocity in those stores.

That's investments in field marketing, brand activation, and all other areas where we can really leverage the sponsorships and the athletes' partnerships, and to really unleash that brand in the marketplace. We are excited about the brand, but it is a sizable investment that we are planning to make in FY 2023. As it relates to U.S. THC strategy- related expenses. You know, I think, as you've seen, we've done acquisitions, so you know, expenses that are related to our M&A team. We really have worked on creating a compelling strategy. Development of all of that, the U.S. THC strategy, and others are really kind of built into that U.S. THC investment.

Now, if we, I think the point of that is that those are the investments that we're making today, but the profit that we are actually generating through those U.S. investments just doesn't show up in our P&L, right? It makes our P&L just look worse, versus if we can really consolidate the revenue and the profits of the investments that we have. It's just the expense shows up, but none of the benefits associated with it.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

The only thing I would add, Judy, is when you look at BioSteel distribution. We know the brand with its kind of clean, healthy hydration differentiator does well when it gets in the hands of consumers. Last year, we put all of the effort into building out those points of distribution that Judy called out. Going from about 1,500 points of distribution last year to, by the time we get them all up and running this year, will be over 50,000.

The spend in BioSteel is to make sure that now that we have points of distribution and we know we have a product that consumers love, we want to make sure that the consumer is aware of the product and pulls it off the shelf for that initial trial. Because we know when we get consumer trial that we build a fan. That's the investment that we're talking about there that we think will pay really big dividends in the near term.

Operator

Your next question comes from Adam Buckham with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Adam Buckham
Associate Director, Scotiabank

Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. On the U.S. THC investments that Canopy has made, I'm just curious as to what stipulations are in the deal in the event clarity on legalization doesn't come from the federal level anytime soon. You know, I guess what I'm asking is how do you realize the financial upside of these assets in the event cannabis only ever becomes regulated at a state level?

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah. There's a fair amount of flexibility because each of our agreements states that, you know, we can exercise our rights to full control. When we say we don't consolidate it's because we don't technically control the businesses even though we own them. Our ability to take full control is upon federal permissibility or at Canopy's discretion. We would want to get comfortable from a legal standpoint and a Controlled Substances Act standpoint. It leaves us some ability to take control of these businesses short of full up federal permissibility, but it, you know, would depend on the incremental legislation that would get passed. I...

What we're all thinking right now, and I'm sure you guys are as well, is that federal permissibility feels like maybe it's not entirely in the near term, but incremental change does look to be on the horizon as we talk about more and more things like, you know, like safe banking, and initiatives of that sort.

Operator

Your next question comes from Pablo Zuanic with Cantor. Please go ahead.

Pablo Zuanic
Managing Director, Cantor Fitzgerald

Yeah. Good morning, David. Actually, it's precisely related to your last comment on SAFE. It's a two-part question, right? When I think of the Wana deal and Jetty, does that mean that you think the triggering event may be sooner than expected, right? I mean, one from outside, we think that you wouldn't be making these investments if you think that that's being delayed, and now it's much further out. The second question, in terms of defining the triggering event, is SAFE enough for you as a triggering event, or would SAFE need to be followed by a listing in U.S. exchanges for plant-touching assets for you to define the triggering event? If you can expand on that, please. Thank you.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah, sure. Good question. You know, as it relates to the triggering event definition, I think that it has a lot to do with what gets included in any of the incremental legislation and what sort of safe harbors get created and how agencies such as exchanges and banks and so forth react to that. I think it's hard to say, Pablo, whether SAFE Banking is enough, but you know, there could be some scenarios where SAFE Banking is at least very helpful. In terms of timing, you know, when we think about a brand like Wana is doing quite well in Canada. It's the number one edibles brand in Canada. I'll also point out that Wana Canada is not in our financial statements.

Wana is the number one edibles brand in Canada. You know, for us, we do have the ability to do some different things with the US brands when they're operating in our home market in Canada, and we'll work on that. We'll continue to work on that. Then just as importantly, our ability to bring a brand like Jetty, which doesn't exist in Canada, but has really strong IP, really good brand credibility and heritage in maybe the most difficult cannabis market in the world in California, be able to bring that to Canada is pretty exciting for us. We do have ways to unlock some value prior to permissibility.

We're gonna keep looking for ways to unlock value and ultimately cash flows, as soon as we possibly can.

Operator

Your next question comes from Matt Bottomley with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Matt Bottomley
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Good morning, everyone. Yeah, just wanted to go back on the strategy of, you know, the new goal of inflection for Adjusted EBITDA. Maybe just if you could speak a little bit more on the potential disposition side. I know you chatted a lot on, you know, the BioSteel and Storz & Bickel prospects. What are the prospects for Canopy's longer-term views and participation in things like Canadian retail, you know, international infrastructure and cultivation outside of Canada, things like that. I'm just wondering, is there an expectation that maybe that'll start coming off the books through disposition, you know, within this upcoming fiscal year?

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

Thanks, Matt. I'll start. First of all, I'd say we've already made significant strides in simplifying our businesses and exiting several non-core categories and businesses that we just didn't feel like it fit our strategy. You know that we divested C³ in last year. I'd say we've made significant progress. Now I think for us really we continue to look for ways of sharpening our focus and, you know, I think there are areas where we will continue to really invest in because we believe in the prospects and the growth aspirations of those businesses.

I think, you know, there are other areas whether the market dynamics are shifting or we need to further simplify our businesses, we'll consistently and constantly review those businesses. Some of the proceeds that I mentioned that we expect to come in FY 2023 are already the businesses that we either closed down or have made decisions to walk away from. It doesn't include additional activities that we potentially would look into. You know, I think we do have a pretty compelling strategy, and we'll continue to look for opportunities to simplify our and sharpen our focus.

Operator

Your next question comes from Ty Collin with Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Ty Collin
Equity Research Analyst, Eight Capital

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow up on the cost reduction announcement that you made last month. Could you provide some more color on the plans to leverage third-party manufacturing? What's the rationale behind that particular action, and which product formats would that relate to? Thanks.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah, we wanna be able to produce the best quality products I can put on the market. I guess when I say best quality, what I really mean is I want the right attributes that our consumers love, and I'm talking specifically about flower. You know, when we look outside of our own facilities, we're really looking to engage with craft growers both for their ability to grow through our 7ACRES Craft Collective offerings as well as connecting with them on some of the strain development and evolution that's going on in the market. We just think it's a way to keep our offerings fresh and at that highest level of attributes in the market that the consumers want.

When we look outside of flower into our other, some of our other categories, you know, there are just producers that can take our formulations and produce them in an asset-light way to Canopy, which just creates better returns for us and better margins for us. We continue to look at how to just put the best product we can in the market, and if that means we produce it, we will. If it means someone else produces it on our behalf, we'll do that as well.

Judy Hong
CFO, Canopy Growth

The only thing I would add, you know, first I think it's really aligned to us building a premium branded company, right? We really do wanna lean in in terms of our brand-led strategy. Number two, it's really about flexibility. As we've mentioned some of the heavy indirect fixed costs that we've been incurring in our Canadian operation, if we can look to variabilize those, some components of those costs and reduce our indirect labor costs, we do actually think that that's a flexible strategy where we can flex up or down as we need from a demand perspective.

Operator

Your next question comes from Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Aaron Grey
Managing Director and Head of Consumer Research, Alliance Global Partners

Hi, good morning, and thanks for the question. For me, I just wanna talk about, you know, the U.S., the Jetty acquisition. You obviously had a shift now of Jetty and Wana to brands more so than MSOs previously. I just wanna kind of get your kind of overarching view. Number one, you know, why you believe now is the appropriate time to really focus more on the brands. Obviously, very early days many people believe in terms of brand equity within the space. Then number two, because you don't have ownership, you know, how are you able to leverage, you know, core competencies, Jetty, strong presence in California. Wana, limited in California, but Wana obviously is stronger in terms of licensing in other markets, and you also have, you know, Acreage and TerrAscend as well.

Just last is overarching kind of brand versus MSOs. How do you look at, you know, building the brands considering, you know, TerrAscend and Acreage have their own brands, and then you're also bringing on your brands through these purchases of the Jetty and Wana? Thank you.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Yeah. I'll come at this from a couple of different ways and Judy fill in the holes here. Again, we start from the point where we believe that sustainable value was created by being that North American, you know, brand-driven, premium-focused company. We see brands like Wana and Jetty really almost in their emerging phase, where they have really good credibility with their consumer bases. They're well regarded in the markets that they exist in today. You know, quite honestly, Wana has shown that they do really well when they come to new markets as well.

We think the same thing is true with Jetty, where you know, we look forward to the day where New Yorkers can consume a Jetty vape product, you know, relying on that California experience and heritage and recognition from a consumer standpoint. We think that the brands are important to build a base for consumers, but the brands have to have a reason for being, and that's why we like brands like Wana and Jetty because they already have the provenance that you like to see in a brand over time. In terms of why now, we think that the timing is right to begin to work together or to have the brands work together to find ways to grow.

For example, you talked about Wana's success running their licensing model. Jetty hasn't really begun to expand outside of California. It will be great for those businesses to work together to take the learnings that Wana has, apply them to Jetty, and be able to bring Jetty into the legal markets across the U.S. In terms of control, I guess, is what you're really talking about around, you know, without us being able to be in there on a day in and day out basis. The way the agreements work is that we have guardrails in place in terms of what the companies can do and cannot do.

Most importantly, and maybe almost as important as the brands, we chose to invest in these companies because they have very strong management teams. We have a lot of confidence in the ability of the individuals running Acreage and TerrAscend and Jetty and Wana to be able to find the best path forward and create a lot of value before permissibility.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Klein, you may proceed.

David Klein
CEO, Canopy Growth

Thanks again for joining us today. If you're in Canada, I really encourage you to try one of our new 7ACRES Jack Haze infused pre-rolled joint innovations or one of our new great tasting cannabis beverages such as Tweed Iced Tea Guava. These are superior experiences, and I would really love for you to give them a try. If you're in the US, I encourage you to try a BioSteel ready-to-drink beverage to hydrate over the Memorial Day weekend. Investor relations will be available to answer additional questions throughout the day. Have a great day, everyone.

Operator

This concludes Canopy Growth fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 financial results conference call. A replay of this conference call will be available until August 25, 2022 and can be accessed following the instructions provided in the company's press release issued earlier today. Thank you for attending today's call and enjoy the rest of your day. Goodbye.

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