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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

May 16, 2022

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Welcome to the Dentsu Group 2022 first quarter earnings call. My name is Masaru Yokota from Dentsu Group Investor Relations Team. Please be aware today's call is being recorded. This call is simultaneously held in Japanese and English, so you can choose the language to listen to by selecting the language from the interpretation button at the bottom of the Zoom screen by choosing Japanese or English. Please make sure your original voice is always on, otherwise it cannot be disconnected. For those joining on the telephone line, you can listen to the original voice only.

Today's presentation materials are provided on our website named 2022 Q1 Earnings Call Materials, and it will be displayed on the screen. Joining me today are, from Tokyo, CEO, Dentsu Group, Hiroshi Igarashi, CFO, Dentsu Group, Yushin Soga.

Yushin Soga
CFO, Dentsu Group

Soga.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

CEO, Dentsu Japan Network, Norihiro Kuretani.

Norihiro Kuretani
CEO, Dentsu Japan Network

Kuretani.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

From Atlanta, CEO, Dentsu International, Wendy Clark.

Wendy Clark
CEO, Dentsu International

Hello, everyone. This is Wendy Clark.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

From London, CFO, Dentsu International, Nick Priday.

Nick Priday
CFO, Dentsu International

Hi, everyone. This is Nick Priday.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

This is Igarashi, Representative Director and CEO of Dentsu Group. Thank you for joining our first quarter earnings call. The situation in Ukraine remains at the forefront of our minds. We continue to support our colleagues in the region with accommodation arrangements, border transfers and legal assistance. We have made donations and provided humanitarian assistance to Ukraine, and we will continue to support Ukraine and the surrounding areas based on the guiding principles of We Must Be a Force for Good, which is a premise of the Dentsu Group code of conduct. With regards to our business in Russia, we continue to negotiate the transfer of the group's share of the local joint venture company to our local partners. To begin, let me start with the headlines from our first quarter. We started our new fiscal year with a better than expected performance.

The revenue in the first quarter marked the highest ever since the business listed. Dentsu Group reported 9.1% organic growth, Dentsu Japan Network 10% and Dentsu International 8.4% as clients continue to invest in brand experiences informed by data and analytics. Together, Japan and the Americas generate 72% of our net revenue. They are our two largest regions and continue to show very robust growth. Furthermore, our pitch pipeline remains active across the group. Considering these trends, today, we are upgrading the group organic growth forecast to 4%-5% from the 4% we announced in February. As a result of our group-wide effort to structurally reduce our cost base, underlying operating profit in Q1 marked the highest since the business was listed, with the first quarter operating margin reaching 21.2%.

The proportion of customer transformation and technology over net revenue, our KPI for business transformation, has reached 31.5% across the group. This slide reports our achievements in detail. In Dentsu International, we have won the new accounts of Santander, JCPenney and Renault, plus many other local accounts and projects. Dentsu Japan Network has taken a majority stake in Ignition Point Inc. That offers consulting services that combine innovation, creativity and technology. Ignition Point will be a consolidated subsidiary from Q2 2022 onwards. The collaboration with DJN has already started with significant revenue synergy opportunities across both the business transformation domain and in the digital transformation domain. In addition, Fujitsu, Dentsu Inc. and ISID announced a collaboration. This will enable all the firms to leverage their capabilities and client base to solve clients' issues among the supply, demand and engineering chain. Moving on to sustainability and ESG.

We are the first global agency to install and use Salesforce Net Zero Cloud to track our carbon footprint and accelerate our path to net zero. Salesforce Dentsu by Merkle is one of the few Salesforce partners with certified resources and implementation experience. I'd like to comment on our effort to share our professional knowledge around SDGs. To promote social contribution, we publish the Sustainability Communication Guide in Japan. Last but not least, it is my honor to report that Dentsu Group has won and were nominated to many awards across the service lines such as ADFEST, Spikes Asia, Drum Awards and the Agency of the Year Australia New Zealand by Google. Now, I would like to hand over to Soga-san to go over the financial update.

Yushin Soga
CFO, Dentsu Group

Thank you, Igarashi-san. I'd now like to take you through the financial results for Q1 2022. Our group had a stronger than expected start to the year, driven by continued client confidence across all areas of the business and the recovery of advertising markets, which contributed to higher year-over-year. Net revenues reached JPY 258.8 billion, with organic growth over 8.9%. Margins improved by 140 basis points, year-on-year to 21.2% on constant currency basis, driven by the transformation and the simplification that group has been undertaking over the past year. Operating margin of 21.2% is the highest Q1 group margin reported since listing. Please note, revenue less cost of sales is now referred to as net revenue throughout the presentation.

Now continuing on this Q1 result, net revenue increased over 12% on a constant currency basis in the first quarter, with underlying operating profit up over 20%. In Japan and internationally as well, the results demonstrate the continued growth in advertising and strength in the structural growth area of Customer Transformation & Technology, with significant year-on-year. In particular, Customer Transformation & Technology grew 22.5% on constant currency basis in the first quarter and reached 31.5% of group revenue, demonstrating progress against our stated strategy of reaching 50% of revenue over time. This slide shows the organic growth broken down across our four regions. Japan, the biggest region with 46% group net revenue, reported 10% organic growth year-on-year, with strong demand for digital solutions, as well as the recovery in advertising across both digital and TV.

In Americas, the second-largest region with 26% group net revenue, organic growth was 13.4%. This region was particularly strong, led by media and CXM across the U.S. and Canada. Japan and Americas generate 72% of our net revenue. They are our two largest regions and have continued to show very robust growth. In EMEA, organic revenue growth was 3.3%, including China, Russian businesses, or 5.3% excluding Russia. CXM growth across EMEA in the first quarter. The U.S. market, the largest market in EMEA, grew over 10%, Denmark 24%, Italy over 8%, and Germany over 5%. In APAC, excluding Japan, organic revenue growth was 5.2%. The Australian market saw good growth across all three service lines, and India returned to growth trajectory again. Dentsu Inc.

Continues to benefit from the take-up in advertising across the Japanese market, which has continued since last year. Dentsu Digital grew over 11% with a double-digit growth rate in the first quarter against as high as 40% comparable at least this year, demonstrating the strength of the model due to advertising and services. I am pleased to include Septeni Holdings as a consolidated company for the first time. Septeni grew almost 14% in Q1. Dentsu believes it has created a number-one player in digital advertising in Japan and the market. We continue to make progress as we shift our business towards the fast-growing customer transformation and technology area, with the ratio of revenues in Japan increasing 25.6% in Q1, up 2.1 percentage points year-on-year. The pitch environment remains active. Next, overview of the key business service lines.

In Dentsu International, media reported a solid 6.4% growth, driven by strength in Americas region. Creative also reported 0.4% growth over the last year, and in key markets, in India and Americas region, with expanding remits from existing clients. The whole creative business continues transformation under new leadership. CXM, including Merkle, reported almost 15% organic growth, maintaining a strong performance as our clients continue investing in redefining their connections with consumers through technology and digital transformation, which we believe will be accelerated. We continue to forecast a long runway of growth for Merkle and the CXM business with continued momentum throughout 2022 and beyond.

This slide covers the movement of net revenue on a year-on-year basis. Organic growth is the main reason for the increase, but I would like to add two additional points. The first is the impact of foreign exchange rate. The average rate used in Q1 was JPY 116 Given the current rate is JPY 129 , we can expect some further benefit as we move through the year if the rate remains at this level. Adding to the currency effect, acquisitions also contributed. The acquisition of Septeni and LiveArea combined delivered a JPY 6.6 billion positive impact.

The next slide shows that the group operating margin has taken a continued upwards trend over the past three years, demonstrating the impact of our transformation efforts to lower our cost base, as well as the operating leverage from strong top-line performance. Dentsu Japan Network delivered their best ever quarter margin at 35.8%, as shown on the blue dotted line. Dentsu International's margin at 9.9%, shown as the gray dotted line, dipped 30 basis points on a constant currency basis, including the impact from Russia. However, excluding Russia would have seen a 10 basis point improvement. The next slide shows the movement of underlying operating profit year-on-year, demonstrating revenues growing faster than cost in Japan. Although we do expect to see costs increase as we progress through the year due to additional hiring required.

Dentsu International costs grew largely in line with the revenues, with the resulting underlying operating profit being in line with our guidance given at the start of the year. Looking at underlying operating profit to statutory operating profit, the major changes year-on-year are gain on asset sales following the sale of property assets in Japan, which largely offset asset write-downs in Russia seen in the first quarter. The next slide is on the reconciliation from underlying to net profit, where we recorded JPY 23.9 billion, post adjustments, up JPY 19 billion year-on-year. Moving to our guidance for 2022. We are upgrading the expected organic growth rate for the group to 4%-5% from the 4% previously announced, driven by better than expected growth at Dentsu International.

We now look for 5%-6% organic growth for Dentsu International this year instead of the originally announced 4%-5%. We are making no changes to the operating margin guidance nor the guidance on profit amounts. Please allow me to summarize. The strong start of the year delivered better than expected organic growth and a 20% increase in underlying operating profit. This has prompted us to raise our group organic guidance to 4%-5% for FY 2022. Our acquisition pipeline remains very active as we look to grow our exposure to customer transformation and technology in line with our stated strategy of reaching 50% of revenues over time.

We continue to improve shareholder returns with JPY 13 billion of the JPY 40 billion buyback already completed as of the end of April. We retain confidence in our midterm FY 2024 targets of 4%-5% organic growth, 18% group operating margin and an improving dividend payout ratio towards 35%. Thank you. I'll pass the microphone back to Igarashi-san.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Thank you, Soga-san. We recognize the uncertain macro environments and the remaining impact from COVID. However, we are confident of strong growth in the market following the first quarter due to increased investment in marketing by our clients. As Soga explained, we have updated the guidance for 2022, upgrading the organic growth guidance to 45% and maintain our margin forecast of 17%. Customer Transformation & Technology is the structural growth area of our industry, and where we see the biggest opportunity for growth. In Q1, net revenue from Customer Transformation & Technology reached 35% of group net revenue, 25.8% from group, and a 36.4% from Dentsu International. This brings us closer to our stated target of reaching 50% of group revenues from this area over time.

The growth will be driven organically and by M&A, where we will grow capability and geographical infill. We continue to grow our revenues in customer transformation and technology, recording 22.5% growth on a constant currency basis in the first quarter. This means that the group becomes more exposed to a faster growing area of our industry, allowing us to deliver a truly differentiated offer to our clients as we shift our business to a hybrid agency and consultancy model. As shown on the slide, Merkle and LiveArea respectively showed approximately 15% and 30% revenue growth in Q1. In Japan, ISID reached approximately 18% growth rate due to its strengthening in transformation.

We have further enhanced our capabilities within the business and digital transformation consulting space by acquiring Ignition Point, which is expected to continue to see top line growth of 30% year-over-year. By expanding our revenues in Customer Transformation & Technology, we plan to achieve further growth by establishing relationships with our client C-suite beyond the CMO. We see greater opportunities for recurring revenue through ongoing managed services, and we can leverage these services through more cost-efficient models, utilizing near- and offshoring capabilities. Growing our exposure in the structural growth area also lowers the cyclicality of our revenues as the proportion of media revenues falls, which provides more stable revenue. Our industry continues to evolve at an ever-increasing pace. We have our sights set on becoming the market leader in enabling and activating the whole customer experience.

That value we bring to society and our clients is by integrating our diverse capabilities across the customer journey. We see a long runway of growth in this space and believe we are well positioned to capture it with the collective strengths of Dentsu Group. Growing our exposure in customer transformation and technology positions the group for growth not only in 2022, but in the years to come. We are confident in our ability to achieve our midterm targets of 4%-5% organic CAGR in next three years, 18% operating margin, and a 35% payout ratio by 2024. We will continue our journey through the business transformation. Finally, I would like to thank all 65,000 of our talented people within the group, without whom today's results would not have been possible. Thank you very much. This concludes my presentation.

Now we would like to move on to the Q&A session.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

We will now start the Q&A session. Please use Zoom's Raise Your Hand function to ask your question, and please enter your name as well as your company's name. For people who are joining from the telephone line, please press star nine. I will select a person to ask the question. I will ask that person to unmute. To allow as many people as possible to ask questions, please limit your questions to two at a time, and please ask your two questions together. First question is from SMBC Nikko, Maeda-san. Please unmute yourself. Please state your name, your company name, and ask your question. Thank you.

Eiji Maeda
Research Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Maeda from SMBC Nikko. I have two questions, and is it okay if I ask the two questions together? Yes, please. First, in regards to organic growth target that you have upgraded.

Have you added a portion the strong result from the first quarter, or do you have aggressive views regarding second quarter onwards? You have the Ukraine issue, the lockdown in China, and also there is an increase in fuel prices that is applying additional pressure to Japanese companies' performance. Even if you take those into consideration, do you expect a strong performance second quarter onwards as well? This is my first question. In regards to the second question, not just for yourselves, but when we look at the ad agencies overseas, they tend to take quite aggressive outlook. The driver of organic growth, is that due to expansion of the simple advertising market?

In your case, you have the CT&T, the technology area. In other words, we're seeing changes to the business structure of ad agencies. Is that the reason that is pushing up organic growth? When we try to look at the situation from the outside, we can't really identify the factors. Not just for yourself, but is there something occurring to the industry across the board? These are my questions.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Thank you very much, Maeda-san. We have received two questions. In regards to the first question, upgrading of organic growth, is that purely because of the strong performance in the first quarter, or is the company looking to see strong performance from second quarter onwards, despite there being various factors? I would ask Soga-san to respond to this question.

Yushin Soga
CFO, Dentsu Group

This is Soga speaking.

Maeda-san, thank you for your question. In February, we announced our guidance. Now, against that, we ended up with a result in the first quarter. Against the guidance we issued in February, the performance in first quarter was great. There were a number of risks that wasn't clear in February that has kind of surfaced, which is the Russia-Ukraine issue, and raw material prices, the increase in infrastructure supply chain issues, which is caused by the Ukraine-Russia issue. There are plus factors in the first quarter, and there are also the upside from second to the fourth quarter above the expected level, but there is also a downside because of uncertain factors.

Even if we actually put the two together, the new organic growth, the upgrade portion, we felt that is doable. It's not just purely based on the result from first quarter, but based on the first quarter, we have expectation for the performance in the second, third, and fourth quarter. There are additional factors, which they're more negative in nature, in risk. All these were put together to come up with updated group guidance on this occasion. Thank you. In regards to your second question, inclusive of ad agencies overseas, there tend to be quite an aggressive outlook being expressed. What is the driver? Has the business model changed? It's difficult to understand this from the outside.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

I would like to respond to this question. First of all, in regards to Japanese business and international business, we will provide a response to both. I will ask Kuretani-san to respond first and Kuretani-san will be followed by Wendy.

Norihiro Kuretani
CEO, Dentsu Japan Network

Thank you very much for the question. In regards to Japan, as you may be aware, there are no agency group that has expanded to include domains like CT&T. In regards to the situation in Japan domestically, as we've indicated, inclusive of the rival companies, we are not seeing the significant structural change for the industry as yet. That completes my response.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Next, Wendy Clark will provide a response for international business.

Wendy Clark
CEO, Dentsu International

Yes, thank you for the question.

While it's difficult for me to speak to competitor's business, I can speak to our own. If you sort of take apart our performance for the first quarter, you're gonna see that Merkle had its strongest quarter over the past four years. This was also the fourth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth for Merkle. We are starting to see the CT&T, CXM capabilities.

Perform in line with our expectations. Of course, the CXM area is the area of structural growth, so we see cyclical response and resilience in media and creative forthcoming. This is, as we think about the role of CXM, it is unquestionably the area of structural growth in the industry. You know, you can see that we're getting our fair share of that. CXM is now over a third of Dentsu International's revenue, so 36% of our revenue sourcing now from that area. We're just seeing all the right indicators. Our pipeline and both our pitch performance for Q1 this year versus Q1 last year is a stronger performance and showing steady and improved trajectory, so we feel very positive about that.

If you just look at it on a compounded basis versus 2019, now CXM is up 18% versus pre-pandemic levels. You're seeing the acceleration of that. I think if you look at a microcosm using our U.S. market, as Igarashi-san said, our second largest market, you see double-digit growth from CXM and you see strong mid-digit performance from media and CX and creative. That really makes up the complexion and the blend moving forward that we believe gets us the right cyclical resilience and structural growth delivery. That sort of represents what we see in the market moving forward. Thank you.

Eiji Maeda
Research Analyst, SMBC Nikko

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Next question will be entertainment from Kishimoto-san, Mizuho Securities. Please unmute yourself and please mention your name and company name and your questions.

Akitomo Kishimoto
Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Thank you very much for your presentation.

I am from Mizuho Securities.

Do you hear me?

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Yes, I do.

Akitomo Kishimoto
Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho Securities

I have one question. According to the presentation material, there is an active M&A pipeline. Recently, we have checked on the M&As deal flow. Similar to this fiscal year, 2022, what will be the size of the entire acquisition and mergers plan for this fiscal year? Could you please give us update on M&A? It is becoming very competitive now. Could you please explain what is your competitive advantage in getting the opportunity of the candidates of your targets. The size of the M&A plan for this fiscal year, as well as the cutting edge for Dentsu Group to acquire targets.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Kishimoto-san, thank you very much for your question. Regarding the M&A pipeline, which seems to be very strong and going forward, what is going to be the potential size of the M&A plan?

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

In the M&A strategy, what is the competitive advantage in Dentsu Group? First, I'd like to ask Soga-san to respond. Then regarding the M&As overseas, Nick Priday will also respond.

Yushin Soga
CFO, Dentsu Group

Yes, this is Soga speaking. Thank you for your question. In February of this year, we came up with the update on our medium-term management plan. We explained our concept behind that allocation. Up until 2024, JPY 350 billion-JPY 300 billion will be invested in order to expand CT&T business. 60% growth targets will be achieved. Regarding the M&A pipeline, which seems to be very strong and active. As for today, for each individual projects and deals, which are in different stages of the pipeline. Because of the confidentiality, we are not able to give you specific numbers planned for this fiscal year. We'd like to refrain from mentioning the specific numbers now.

Anyway, by 2024, as we explained in February, the CT&T business will be enhanced and strengthened in order to carry out our business transformation of ourselves. We have not changed anything to what we explained in February. This is what I would like to say. Thank you.

Akitomo Kishimoto
Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Yes.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

We are very sorry. Due to technical problems, Nick Dempsey wouldn't hear any audio. Please wait.

Nick Priday
CFO, Dentsu International

Sorry, this is Nick Priday speaking. Can you hear me? Just to answer the question on the M&A pipeline and the competitive nature of that space. Yes, it is competitive as companies both agencies and consultancies seek to expand capabilities beyond pure advertising into technology implementation and integration. That's partly how we've been able to access the high level of structural growth in CXM, CT&T, over the last few years, in particular over the last 12 months, as Wendy just set out. We build our pipeline through a combination of inbound activities, but also outbound target identification, across our three regions. The track record is strong with our return on investment being significantly higher than our weighted average cost of capital.

I would say in terms of the competitive nature of the environments that we are not afraid to walk away from deals when we think the price is too high. We've done that on many occasions. We need to be disciplined in terms of our approach. In terms of how we attract acquisitions and have a competitive advantage in that space, I think we've done a number of deals in the past. The focus of our acquisition efforts on CXM means that we get to leverage the experience of the Merkle team who joined our business and now are big proponents of acquisitions joining Dentsu. The instant scale that we get from acquisitions brings us benefit in terms of talent, reduced criticality of the business, obviously faster growth.

The acquisitions have the ability to integrate into our common systems and platforms and to really leverage their opportunity to access market-related growth and focus on what they're good at, which is focus on their clients. I think if you look at the opportunities we're focused on now, as Arinobu Soga said, we won't go into detail in terms of the pipeline. We do think it's not only the ability to access CXM and better growth going forward, but also the ability to continue to transform our operations via offshore delivery centers, which many of our recent acquisitions have brought for us.

For instance, Ugam, Paragon, Sokrati have all brought offshore delivery capabilities for us, which I think really does help, in terms of the environment moving forward, both in terms of being efficient but also accessing future growth opportunities. Thank you.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Kuretani-san, could you please give us your brief comment on Japanese business?

Norihiro Kuretani
CEO, Dentsu Japan Network

Yes. In Japan, our M&A pipeline, what competitive advantage we have. Carta, Septeni. Dream Incubator with only 20%. Recently we acquired Ignition Point. Well, we have a client base of over 6,000 companies, and I think this client base has been utilized. In addition, we are currently promoting Integrated Growth Partner. IGP, through which we are trying to enhance our quality of services, where our customers, our clients are resonating with us. More specifically, we have a good understanding of demand side. Which we are able to utilize our expertise in consulting for, businesses as well as the systems, establishment as well. We believe that we are able to provide a set expertise. In Dentsu Group. Actually, there are many people switching from other companies to Dentsu.

Of course, there is a vice versa. Anyway, overall, we are seeing increasing number of people leaving competitors and joining us, Dentsu Group. Because of perhaps the new culture of the group. We are offering a place for learning. I think these are the motivations for people to decide to join our group. That is my understanding. Thank you.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Thank you. Next question from Edison Investment Research, Ms. Fiona Orford-Williams. Please unmute yourself, state your name, your company name, and ask your question.

Fiona Orford-Williams
Senior Analyst, Edison Investment Research

Thank you. It's Fiona Orford-Williams from Edison. First of all, can I ask about the outlook for margins in international business? You're still guiding to flat for the year, but there was a slight dip in Q1. Perhaps you can take us through that in a bit more detail. My second question, I'd like to know about pitch activity levels and client reviews over the profile of the rest of the year, please.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Thank you very much, Ms. Fiona Orford-Williams. You had two questions. First, question is in regards to the margin outlook for the international business going forward, and I would like to ask, Mr. Nick Priday to respond to that question. In regards to the upcoming pitch activities, are you asking about the pitch, situation overseas? If that's the case, we'll ask, Ms. Wendy Clark to respond to that question.

Nick Priday
CFO, Dentsu International

Hi, Fiona. It's Nick Priday. Thank you for the question. In terms of our operating margin confidence in the outlook, given a small dip in Q1, I would say that by way of context, that we achieved a historically high margin in the first quarter of last year. It was the first time we'd achieved a double digit margin percentage in the first quarter for Dentsu International. We came very close to that same level of margin in the first quarter of 2022, just being fractionally behind it. If we do exclude the impact that our Russian business has suffered in the first quarter, our margin would have actually been up against the prior year by 10 basis points.

I think as we shift more of our business to Customer Transformation & Technology, we are certainly recognizing more profitability earlier in the year, and that structurally improves our margins in terms of the phasing of margins throughout the year. It structurally improves the phasing of our operating margin going forward. I think the other thing I'd say by way of context is the ongoing transformation and deduplication of the business. The simplification of the business definitely supports margins over the long term. The offshoring that we are really pursuing with some vigor, and the reduction in the number of brands in the past two years have really allowed us to radically think about how we organize our business, how we deliver services to clients, and what the right cost base is across the business.

The savings plans we've put in place over the last two years have certainly paid dividends in that respect. As we look forward on a full year basis, we are confident in the margin outlook for the business. I should also note that we did achieve our 15% margin target one year early in 2021, and we're some 90 basis points ahead of that target. In 2022, we're confident that we will achieve flat margins as guided, and at the same time reinvest in people and talent attraction and retention too. Hopefully that gives you some confidence.

Wendy Clark
CEO, Dentsu International

Thank you, Nick. It's Wendy. I'll just answer Fiona's second question, and that was in regards to the pitch pipeline that we see in the international business. The pipeline stands right around $5 billion at the moment, and that's roughly 72% offensive for DI. We like that mix and blend. I mentioned on my previous answer for CXM, both the pipeline and the value of pitches is up year-over-year versus this time last year, which again is positive. Perhaps some of the detail underneath this that would be helpful. We saw our top 20 clients grow by 15% in Q1. We do very well on expanding our existing relationships with our biggest clients like Microsoft, P&G, GM, and others.

We are actually just notified a very big one on Friday, which I can't talk about, but exciting news coming within the growth of our existing base, which of course is significantly cheaper and more efficient for us to expand our existing revenue with existing clients. As we also kind of look at the complexion of our wins, we have a 70% conversion rate locally. Again, these pitches don't tend to get some of the bigger headlines, but of course, for our business and the complexion of our business and you know, dozens of countries around the world, being able to convert local revenue is core to our business proposition. A 70% win rate feels good.

So far this year, our media conversions stand at about $600 million, and that's on track with our plan. All in sort of looking at the pipeline, looking at the prospects, we feel very confident as we sit here at the end of Q1. Thank you.

Fiona Orford-Williams
Senior Analyst, Edison Investment Research

Thank you very much.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Are there any questions? If you have any questions, please utilize the function available in Zoom to raise your hand. If through telephone call, please press star and nine.

Next, from Barclays, Julien Roch , please have the floor. Please unmute yourself. State your company name and question, please.

Julien Roch
Managing Director, Barclays

Yes. Good morning. It's Julien Roch with Barclays. Thank you very much for taking my question. The first one is you've upgraded your organic guidance by one point like all the other agencies, and you already answered that, based on the balance of what you were seeing, the beat in Q1, but also, what you were seeing at the moment, despite the macro headwinds, you were comfortable upgrading guidance. All the agencies have upgraded guidance by one point. The stock market believes we're going into a recession, so someone's gonna be wrong. Hopefully, it's gonna be the stock market. Recession is never nice. Any color on client budget versus macro you can tell us the discussion you're having with your clients. Are some of them saying, "This is my budget, but I might cut.

I'm a bit worried. So any color on budget macro, why are you so confident versus the market being not confident? Sorry for the long question. The second one, much faster, following up on Wendy's answer. Out of the $5 billion of pitches, if she could give us the public ones, the large public one. Thank you.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Julian, thank you very much for your first question regarding organic guidance upgraded. Considering the headwind in the macro environment, and why are we able to be so bullish and confident considering the budgets of the clients, but what is the rationale for us to be so confident? Regarding this question, I'm ready to respond.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Regarding the second question regarding the pitch, the public information. Could you please disclose the public information regarding the pitches to which Wendy Clark is going to respond?

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

First, Igarashi speaking. To your first question. Since last year or two years ago, we started our structural reforms. Our transformation started. Against the headwind in the macro environment, we believe that we have become very resilient in operational efficiency, and I believe that that has been already securely reflected in the numbers for the 21. On the other hand, we are having very close communication with clients through hearing interviews and dialogue with them. Now we are expanding our numbers significantly, as we explained earlier, in this particular area of CT&T. So-called marketing communication area, which is exposed to cyclical changes.

Differently from that area, this CT&T is the area where we are focusing on the transformation of the business of the client. Indispensable reforms are needed to be carried out. That is evident from clients. That is the clear needs of the clients. Our business is expanding in this particular area towards the second half of this fiscal year. Although we will face a headwind in the macro environment, but even with that, we believe that we are able to continue to grow our business. This is the reason why we are confidently upgrading the guidance. Now, Wendy, could you please have the floor?

Wendy Clark
CEO, Dentsu International

Thank you, Igarashi-san, and thank you, Julien Roch , for the questions. I'll just build a little bit further on what Higurashi-san was saying and pull it down into the DI side of the business. As Igarashi-san said, we are in constant conversation with our clients. Obviously these are times where we need to be partnering and you know, understanding the challenges they may be seeing. There has been, you know, increases in both tech and finance, in CPG and pharma. We're seeing resilience in those categories. I would also say, I think there's been some reporting on autos scaling back, but we have not seen that. In fact, in the U.S., our two largest auto clients are growing.

I think, you know, we can only report to you what we see and hear from our clients. I think to the points that Igarashi-san was just making around CXM, you do have that sort of more structural long-term investment coming from clients now as they seek to deliver those deep consumer experiences, build and grow loyalty, which has, you know, obviously lasting and long-term effects. That's the acceleration we're seeing in the business now from our clients, so it does make us more defensive. Media will always naturally be more sensitive to upturns and downturns in particular markets. As you know, you know, our clients can switch that on and off.

We do see sensitivity around that, and you saw a little bit of that in our EMEA numbers from the impacts of the war particularly. Look, taken together because we've got this now fourth quarter of double-digit performance from CXM, that does give us this sort of more foundational base from which to jump in terms of the structural growth, and it gives us a little bit more insulation from some of those short term, you know, shifts and changes that we may see. The final comment I would make is that in gaming and health, those are two verticals that we've announced in the last year. We've seen, you know, really strong uptake on those. Our health practice is now a top five network. I mean, it just launched within the last two years.

We're a top five global network with an extremely robust pipeline. I think those verticals and the investment in those verticals are also helping our resilience. As to the pitch pipeline, you know that we are under lots of NDAs on those, so I can't actually validate. You would, you know that we are participating in all of the usual suspects globally. As I mentioned earlier, I mean, I think that the majority of our growth does come locally and re-regionally, just given the complexion of our business. While those get a little more press with a 70% conversion rate, they're very fundamental to our delivery. Thank you.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Thank you very much, Mr. Julien Roch . The next question is from JP Morgan, Mr. Panjwani, Rajesh. Please unmute yourself, state your name, state your company name, and ask your question. Mr. Panjwani, please ask your question.

Rajesh Panjwani
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Hi. Thank you very much. First question is on, you know, there seems to be a disconnect between the confidence, you know, you seem to have in the future outlook as well, and the guidance for the full year. Wendy said that we should expect double-digit growth in CXM and mid-single digit growth in Creative and Media. However, for both domestic business as well as the international business, if I take out the growth achieved in the first quarter and then see what the full year guidance implies, it essentially suggests a flattish revenue on a YY basis for the remaining nine months, both for domestic and international businesses.

Similarly, on margins, like if I see the margin guidance for the domestic business specifically, and look at the rest of the year, it essentially implies a decline in domestic margins for the remaining nine months. Can you please address this? Are you being overly conservative in your guidance because of the macro uncertainties? My second question is on what Nick said. I'm happy to hear that you are being disciplined in your acquisitions and happy to walk away if the price is too high. I also hope the management balances between M&A and buybacks.

When you're looking at some of the buying companies trading at 15x EBITDA, it would be also good to look at your own company, which is trading at under 6x EBITDA, has a net cash balance sheet, strong margins, and as you yourselves have said, very good growth outlook?

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Thank you very much, Panjwani-san. We have received two questions from you. First, in regards to the guidance, that is, with a strong confidence. If we look at the revenue for second quarter onwards, it seems to be flat. You suggest that there is a lot of conservatism. Mr. Soga would respond to that question. The second question is related to M&A and share buyback. Disciplined M&A is good, but how would that relate to the buyback going forward? I'll also ask Soga-san to respond to that question and ask Nick to add if there is anything that Nick would like to add.

Yushin Soga
CFO, Dentsu Group

This is Soga speaking. Thank you very much for your question.

First of all, the guidance in February, we ended up with the performance in the fourth quarter. We also upgraded our guidance for DI and also for the group. You said that this was somewhat conservative. Now, for us, in 2019 and 2020, we ended up with quite a tough earnings result. We were unable to engage in appropriate communication with the market in 2021. Thankfully, we were able to end up with a very good term, the financial results. In February last year, we announced the medium-term management plan, so we are executing on that plan right now.

Needless to say, the guidance that we issue is not just a guidance, it is something of a commitment, in my view, for the Japanese business and so for the international business, in regards to the outlook. We feel that we'll be able to achieve the guidance that we've announced in February. We're quite confident of that. At the same time, for the Japanese business and the international business, there are still risks associated with the macro factors that I've mentioned before. We still have the second, third and fourth quarter remaining within the year. At this point in time, to come up with a further upgraded guidance was something we've decided against.

At the end of the second quarter in mid-August, we will be relooking at the outlook for the full year. If necessary, we may make a further upgrade at the appointed time. In any case, when we look at our peer groups in the West, as against their guidance, our guidance upgrade on this occasion may look somewhat conservative. In reflection of the communication with the market in the past, we want to come up with a guidance that we are fully committed to, and that is what we have issued on this occasion.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Thank you very much, Soga-san. I'd like to ask Wendy to also add a comment to this question.

Wendy Clark
CEO, Dentsu International

Yes. Thank you, Igarashi-san. I just wanted to clarify in your question, when I'd mentioned the mix of double-digit growth from CXM and mid-single digit performance from media and creative, that is what we're seeing this quarter for Q1 from the U.S., but it is not where our other two regions are. That has our focus. As you know, we've had continued drag on the business from creative. We are underway with our creative restoration with the joining of Fred Levron six months ago. We will make announcements around that business in Cannes next month. We have work to do to have that same look of success we see in the U.S. replicated in the other regions.

Just wanted to clarify that point of our ambition versus where we sit today. Thank you.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Next, in regards to the Japanese business, I would like to ask for Kuretani-san to simply make additional comments.

Norihiro Kuretani
CEO, Dentsu Japan Network

In regards to the Japanese domestic business, you've suggested that the margin will go down for the rest of the year. Now, in that regard.

As Mr. Igarashi has been explaining thus far, the CT&T domain is progressing very well. We are trying to accelerate hiring of employees. The costs associated with hiring and investment in that regard are taken into consideration with some conservatism. Thank you.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Now to the second part of your question in regards to M&A strategy and share buyback. I would like to ask Soga-san and also Nick to comment.

Yushin Soga
CFO, Dentsu Group

This is Soga. Allow me to respond. In February this year, we have updated a medium-term management plan. At that point in time, we've also talked about the capital allocation plan.

By 2024, in the three years, we'll spend between JPY 250 billion and JPY 300 billion for M&A, so that we can work towards increasing the proportion of CT&T business towards 50%. By doing this, we want to achieve structural change. We want to make our growth structural growth. We've only been doing this for the several months thus far, and the buyback that we've announced in February is still in progress right now. We've already talked about the progress about that before. At this point in time, I think it's too premature to talk about additional buyback.

What we have promised to the market, the midterm management plan, we will look at the progress of that plan, and we will continuously look flexibly about the shareholder return. It'll always be part of the consideration, but we are still midway through May, and so we feel that this is not the right timing to think about additional buyback. That's all from me.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Nick, please make additional comment.

Nick Priday
CFO, Dentsu International

Thank you, Igarash i-san. Look, I think the only thing to add to that is, as Soga-san implied, investing for growth certainly remains the priority for now. I think if you look at the nature of acquisitions and how they've helped to transform our revenue profile over the last few years, it's really been quite transformative. It's, and obviously, we're very focused on providing good returns to shareholders, but it's not just a short-term consideration on returns. We also need to make sure that we're focused to capture the highest growth we can on a go-forward basis. That means that investing for growth and investing in scaling our CT&T capability will, I think, be beneficial for the group in the longer term. Thank you.

Rajesh Panjwani
Executive Director and Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you very much.

Masaru Yokota
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Dentsu Group

Thank you very much. We believe that the time is approaching to close the meeting. With this, we'd like to close this earnings call. Thank you very much for taking time out of your busy schedule to participate in this meeting. Thank you. You may now leave. Thank you.

Hiroshi Igarashi
CEO, Dentsu Group

Thank you.

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