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Earnings Call: Q2 2024

Nov 10, 2023

Yoshitaka Kitao
Representative Director, Chairman, President, and CEO, SBI Holdings

Thank you very much for attending today, despite your very busy schedule. Thank you very much for your attendance today. Second quarter of the year, so now, well, usually I ask Mr. Katsuji to talk about the first quarter and the third quarter of the year, but today, I'm going to speak about the financial results for this year. Because second half of this year, I believe, is going to be a major turning point. So what is meant by the major turning point? What is the idea behind that? And in the second half, when turning point is expected to be materialized, so what are we going to do? What do we plan to do? So that's what I'd like to explain today.

As for the numbers and the results, if we only talk about the results of the past, business activities, well, they are probably you, the, the, analysts and the professionals can understand the numbers. So I will go quickly for some part of my presentation. So the consolidated financial results for the, first half. So the, revenue increased by 28.3%, increased up to JPY 754.8 billion. So that means on the, on a full year basis, the JPY 1 trillion revenue is, we hope to achieve. Most likely, we will be able to achieve JPY 1 trillion on a full year basis. That's how I see it. And also, the profit before income tax expenses, JPY 70.2 billion, 31%, increase year-on-year.

And also, the profit attributable to the owner of the company was at JPY 37.1 billion, and this is the apples-to-apples comparison with our peers. Well, it is not a question of whether you lose or win, but the Daiwa Securities and the was the bigger than ours, looking at this. So now 65 years after, 64 years, so the nearly 65 years since the foundation, we came to the stage. Other companies have the history of more than 100 years, but this is the current status comparison, and it is a question of time. And, this may change quite immediately, and that is expected to happen in the second half of this year onward.

So the record high financial services, JPY 70.875 billion, which is a record high, and also the asset management, JPY 2.151 billion, and crypto asset business turned profitable, positive. And next generation business, so we used to call this non-financial services, but we renamed this business as NextGen business. And you look at the number. And as for the dividend, so excluding the special factors like the... So the total return of our shareholders and also combination of dividend and the share buyback are the total return that we consider, and the dividend is JPY 30 for the interim period.

The financial services revenue increased by 28%, and also the profit before tax increased by 0.9% year-on-year. In all these areas, as you see, the SBI Securities' performance are like this, at the record high for all these items. I talked about the turning point, because starting from October, we will introduce the Zero Revolution commission-free, and the trading will be realized starting from October this year. So this is the apple-to-apple comparison of the peers, and this looks like this in comparison. So we are number 3 right now, and it is the time will also tell you how this is going to change.

The FX and the SBI Liquidity Market, record high operating revenue of JPY 16.188 billion. Comparison with the other players, the second largest is GMO Financial Holdings, and this is a comparison. The overseas securities companies, they are securities companies, so they are influenced by the market situation, and they are keeping the profitability. In case of Cambodia, for the profit before income tax expense, the result was higher than that of last year, year-on-year. Now, looking at the banking business, SBI Shinsei Bank Group is the first point I'd like to mention. Yesterday, they made a financial result announcement. So the 29.6% increase in the ordinary business profit, JPY 53.8 billion, and also profit before income tax expense on the JPY 30.9 billion.

According to the IFRS, it is JPY 19.9 billion for the profit before income tax expense. Sumishin, SBI Sumishin Net Bank, on the 29th of March, they were listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange standard market, and the 50% holding has to be reduced down to 34.19%. But it is the on the equity method affiliate right now. So in terms of that equity method earnings, it increased by 24.2%. It is now JPY 1.625 billion. And this shows the number of accounts and the balance of deposits since the commencement of the-

... SBI Sumishin Net Bank, and the 6.57 million accounts we opened at the end of September, and deposits they grew up to JPY 8,639 billion. So it has been increasing constantly. Now, in Korea, SBI Savings Bank, well, the Korean economy right now is quite volatile. It is a volatile economy, and I do not forget about the experience back in Asian financial crisis. And the bank rent lending rate went up to 30% at that point, at that time. So the it is on the market affected by the external factors, particularly the negative impact influences the Korean market quite significantly.

It is because of the size of the market, but it tends to turn negative from time to time, but the recovery comes very quickly as well. So at the time of the recovery, at the time of the turning point, I believe that it will come in the second half of this year. But the equity ratio is improved. Capital adequacy ratio improved from 13.4%- 14.5%, and the rating given to this bank is A stable. So business itself is proceeding smoothly, but the environment was not so favorable. And as for other foreign banks, the Russian bank is now profitable. And in Cambodia, the SBIF Bank, there's some decrease in profit, but still, they're profitable.

TP Bank in Vietnam, some decrease in profit, but each one of these banks are expanding their business very steadily. Moving on to insurance business. Ordinary revenue up 9.6%, ordinary profit up 16.8%, with JPY 4,851 million. Very steady growth is observed. The number of in-force policies, at the CAGR basis, 14.1%, it is growing very steadily. Asset management business. As I mentioned earlier, JPY 3,151 million of pre-tax income, up, up 59.8%. As to asset management business, it is the combination of organic growth and M&A growth. That is the plan. So in a very steady manner, it is growing steadily. The cash is really abundant, and there is a proceeds of sale of Morningstar brand exist.

So if there is any good target, Asakura-san is always ready to buy. Rheos Capital. Now, it is SBI Rheos Hifumi Company Limited, and that is a name from April 2024. SBI Global Asset Management exceeded five trillion mark with JPY 5,073.6 billion, and the two thousand three hundred and fifty billion yen of the institutional investors, AUM. In total basis, in SBI Group AUM, JPY 8.5 trillion. And we would like to make it to 10 trillion or 20 trillion, and we are moving towards that. Moving on to investment business. The revenue up 89.8% with JPY 56 billion, and pre-tax profit up 117.2% with JPY 10.411 billion.

The environment of funding for venture capital is very tough, but still, they did very well. So the changes in the fair value, as you can see, increase of 126.9%. Here it says, "Listed securities, unlisted securities." For listed securities, that is profitable, and unlisted securities, the growth is negative, so only JPY 10.5 billion in the first half of the year. The M&A and IPO, 22 of them are exited, so the same level as the fiscal year 2022, and the JPY 7,695.5 billion investment trust. The crypto asset business year-to-year on year-on-year basis, this B2C2 market maker or the SBI crypto for mining. Some of the partners went under, and we incurred some losses. And there is a big negative number here because of that.

But for this fiscal year, relatively stable development in the crypto-asset industry, so we are enjoying profit. Next-gen business. The pre-tax income was negative for the first half. For example, SBI Pharmaceuticals and in their area, but the deficit decreased. But for example, the ALApromo—there's some IPO-related cost incurred, and because of that, results were slightly worse. But it is still, by the other business itself, is profitable. Here, this is what I talking about, SBI Pharmaceuticals and SBI ALApromo, as I mentioned earlier, some cost incurred. So from this page, just second half of this year, both for major macro and the same macroeconomic, we will see turning points. And with that in our minds, we are already making preparation, with respect to how to manage our business.

For example, of course, the monetary policy will make a shift both at home and abroad, as you know already. And for securities business, Zero Revolution. So in October, what was the result of Zero Revolution? Well, for the month of October, on a year-on-year basis, better, slightly better than the same period of last year. So we are going to make what, what we have made initiatives, and that effort will pay off from here. So maybe the JPY 20 billion or so reduction will come from, the Zero Revolution initiative. Some analysts, said that. I totally disagree with them. And for the whole group, there are some positive impacts for the group, with ecosystem of corporate and management.

Also, the Japanese government is trying to make a shift from savings to investment, and at that timing that we launched this initiative of Zero Revolution, and we will enjoy tailwind. And as to the coming of full-fledged digital world, because we believe in that, and in this area, we are making very aggressive investment. In a sense, it will bring a big change in the second half of this year. Also, there are big changes in the business environment, including volatility in the financial market. To be ready for that, we are going to make a new business portfolio, which includes semiconductor business. We made investment in Mynavi. So, for example, a partnership with Mynavi is part of this picture.

We see the income in the cash flow increasing in Middle East, like Abu Dhabi, and we are going to thoroughly increase the relationship with such area. In the past, we started in 2005, focusing on the China. We, we still have seven the operation bases in China. We started various businesses in China, then we moved on to Southeast Asia. There's a shift of the management resources to that area. And Southeast Asia will continue to be part of our business, but this with semiconductor business coming around, we will particularly focus more on Middle East. After the second oil shock, we talked with the Saudi Arabia monetary agency or the agency in Kuwait or in Abu Dhabi or UAE.

Every three months, I visited that area, and there was a halt of such visits for a while, but I will have to visit the Arab countries again. In Riyadh, in Saudi Arabia, we are going to start our operation basis. What kind of business would that be? And this business in the Middle East, what kind of positive results to be brought to our business? Because in the Middle East, the largest inflow of the money, and the money should be used. When I was with Nomura, the money coming into Middle East was diversified into the rest of the world. And here we are, we'll be using different perspective to work on Middle East again. More specifically, so the macroeconomic environment, the monetary policy will come to its big turning point.

So the U.S. policy rate, 5.5%, in a very short period of time. It comes up to 5.5% level, but still, its economy is solid in terms of GDP, at least. So the ten-year bond yield, it was stable for a while, but now, here, it started to come up. Obviously, significant rise. This means, based on my experience, the change of policy. Ten-year bond rate is moving, that's meaningful. And in Japan, yield curve control, yes, was present, and some changes because of that. And with Mr. Ueda, the major changes in the policy are not happening yet. But the rest of the world is changing, and if you do not change, the Japanese yen will continue to weaken. Some people might say, "What's the wrong about it?" But that means that the, the real wage will not go up.

The government was very focused on wage increase, raise it by 3%, for example. It is down by 2.4%. And because of the weaker yen, the material cost is rising, so it's impossible to expect wage increase under such circumstances. The tightening policy in Western countries, what is the impact on FX market? It's not only the U.S., but also Europe has been tightening their monetary policy. So the rate gap with Japan has widened, and dollar-yen, the euro-yen, in those pairs, yen continues to weaken. The volatility goes up because of that, and our business welcomes it, but for the general economy, that's a big negative. In the U.S., the Mr.

Powell, after the FOMC meeting, they said that the financial situation tightened significantly in recent months, driven by higher longer-term bond yields, among other factors. That's what he said. "Significantly tightened," he said. So that gives the impression that they will not raise rates anymore, but that he is prepared to raise it again, if necessary. But when you look at the long-term rate and employment, unemployment rate, maybe they will not raise any more. From 1974, every day, I have been looking at the markets all over the world, so I can use my instinct. Certainly, they will not. I would say that they will not raise rates anymore. Almost certainly.

In the past, at the Fuji Bank, working on SoftBank with Asakura-san, I was doing the FX dealings, profit, with profit of JPY 6 billion in the first half and second half, and I did not incur any losses. Fuji Bank asked me, "How are you doing it?" I mean, they, they asked the question to Asakura-san. But even at night, I called Asakura-san, for example, even midnight, but we have not made any failures back then. So anything you bet on your life, and as a result, you can brush up your instinct. If you stay relaxed, you will never have instinct. Now, in Japan, a positive response to the realization of its 2% price target, said Mr. Ueda. Now, anyone knows that the it is over 2% already.

But he says that the certainty is not sufficient. So he avoided mentioning a specific timing for the normalization of monetary policy. He does not make any clear-cut comments. Many academics, scholars are like that. As we said during the board meeting, Takenaka-san, outside director, disagreed. I mean, appointed by Mr. Koizumi, Japanese financial system was in a bad shape, and he did a very good job. And Mr. Takahashi, as he wrote in his personal history of Nikkei newspaper, saying that the Takenaka-san did a very good job. In the near future, Japan and the Western countries, their monetary policies will change. So what is the impact of the monetary policy on the real economy? As I mentioned earlier, when you look at the U.S. job numbers-...

So, now they are aware that the labor market was too overheated. GDP is very strong, 4.9% for Q3. And that could be misleading when you look at credit card results in the U.S. It seems risky, I think, and the office space since the COVID, people do not go to office anymore, and today, 33 people are here, but the total attendance is 116, so the rest is online, on the internet. That's fine, that's convenient. You can save time. But you should be careful. The real economy is different, and that's why WeWork went under. The U.S., Germany, real GDP. Germany, the economy is so weak, and of course, U.K. economy is weak. As you can see here, the CPI year-on-year basis coming down for both countries.

So each country, the U.S. and the European government will change their policies. And this is the example of Japan, the real wage, minus 2.4%. This is the result. So that explains why Mr. Kishida is not very popular. And distribution of money will recover the support rating. Well... And the finance minister says that the people are not using it. That's really laughable. Well then, we should not go down that path, so what should we do? This is what I am giving very serious thought to.

Thoroughly promote measures to strengthen both fundraising and investment in order to increase the profitability of the banking business after the change in monetary policy. Thoroughly promote is what we are doing right now. SBI Shinsei Bank Group business, the possible impact of rising interest rate to its business and the various initiatives being promoted in response. SBI Shinsei Net Banks, what's happening? Individually, in specific terms, because the situation differs for each one of them, so how we do it and the response has to be different. And also, the regional financial institutions, which we have a stake in, for this too, what is the best way that direction, especially those that we are investing a lot, we need to make detailed guidance to them. And SBI Savings Bank, as I have said before, this is time will solve it.

The recovery will be very quick. First of all, SBI Shinsei Bank. Basically, the bank business for short and long-term interest rate, either the increase, it is going to bring about the widening of our spreads. So for the banking business, it's a positive factor. And also, corporate loans, housing loans, unsecured loans, leasing, and shopping credit, each one of them, we need to look at in very detailed manner, and also implement detailed ways of doing things. Because the market business, expecting a positive revenue effect from higher yields on reinvestment, at the same time, this is important, projecting expanded valuation losses on fixed income, domestic bonds held, and higher costs for funds procured from the market. That means the deposit interest rate is going to, of course, increase.

So we need to be paying attention to this, and at the same time, expand the spreads. The market risk, we need to thoroughly keep an eye on it and act. So compared to the past, management actions, it needs to be more in a granular manner. Our management needs to do that thoroughly. We anticipate the increase of the interest rate, and from a long time ago, from the Kudo administration, the number of accounts was on a declining trend, and also the total deposit and balance was not increasing. That was Kudo's management structure. Then it became to Kawashima management structure, then the number of accounts increased, and also the total deposit amount has risen rapidly as well.

How are we going to link this with a further widening the spread? That is important. And also, SBI Shinsei Bank, at this time, the collaboration of bank and securities, that has a very much of a large positive effect. It was approved, and we will be thoroughly working on it. And what happened because of that? In 2022, October, Shinsei Bank and the simultaneous SBI Shinsei Bank, the simultaneous opening of accounts with SBI Securities, has accelerated growth in deposit accounts. That is the blue line that is showing the growth or increase of the accounts. You can see it had a rapid increase. And the customers, including 60% or so coming over from SBI Securities, and the average age were 39.8. The former Shinsei Bank had customers that are in a higher age group.

But now, the SBI Shinsei Bank are in the younger generation that are going to become even more active moving forward, and they're going to become the core customers. And when their parents age, and when they go into the phase or stage of receiving inheritance, these are the people who will be receiving those inheritance. So with this strategy, we're able to achieve that, and so increase the deposit rates and also now waiving all ATM fees at convenience stores. We are implementing various measures, and foreign currency deposit withdrawal function between banks and security companies scheduled for release in November. So a future of increased linkage with SBI Securities is SBI Shinsei Bank's most important initiative, is what we think. And SBI Money Plaza, there are four co-managed stores.

The amount of AUM at the joint branches have steadily expanded, increasing by approximately JPY 120 billion in just over a year since it started, and that requires a lot of effort. SBI Shinsei Bank's various initiatives. In order to implement that, we need to increase the management flexibility. The voting rates is at 62.5%. Murakami-san's place has joined and will remain, therefore, it will become that way. Before he made the decision, he has visited me several times, and we had several discussions with Mr. Murakami, and I said that "You are very welcomed. If you join us, you can utilize your know-how and experience." And with him, we are going to be a cooperation-cooperation, meaning that we'll be sharing the benefits.

And so what's good for the bank is going to be good for him as well. So I welcome that. And what was even more welcoming was the JPY 56 billion money, he will let it stay untouched. And the JPY 56 billion, because it's untouched or will be untouched, when my decision became firm, I immediately instructed to increase investment amount to semiconductors from JPY 50 billion to JPY 100 billion. Said, "Let's have an abundant capital base." And because of Mr. Murakami, we were able to do such thing, so it was quite welcoming. That is my stance. But instead, because he has joined, I have asked him for various wisdom to be provided. He was in METI, and then he wanted to work for people, and that has not disappeared now, is what I think.

That is why suddenly joined, and people say, "Mr. Kitao, it must be puzzling." Well, there was one reporter who asked me that question, but I'm not puzzled at all or bothered at all. This is something that I have been saying from the very start. SBI Shinsei Bank, the achievements as a platform is steadily materializing within the relationship with the regional banks. They are generating various new businesses. SBI Sumishin Net Bank's main products is on variable-rate mortgage products, which are expected to be positively affected by rising interest rates. Mr. Maruyama, the policy interest rate is at 0.25%. When it becomes 0.25%, we assumed no decline in demand or increase in defaults. APS is estimated to rise 30% under certain assumptions.

And, we believe that that will actually happen at a high possibility, because here it's most of individual accounts. The regional financial institutions in which SBI Group has a stake, share prices have risen in line with expectations of increased profits from lending and market operations, among other factors, as they promote measures in anticipation of rising interest rates through collaboration with SBI Group. Based on my experience from 2005 April to 2007 March, and if you look at the five-year JGB yield, and the correlation coefficient is 0.80. If the interest rate increase, then the domestic bank share index increases as well. And from April to October, the correlation coefficient has increased even more to 0.92. Therefore, why did it become this way?

We need to think about this in this case. I, when I look at such a thing, I always think, "Why is it this way?" And I look into it. The variable lending ratio of regional financial institutions, including loans with a remaining maturity of a year or less, has reached 63%. Expected increase in interest income from funds as interest rate rise in case where the interest rate tracking rate on deposit is low. And this, a variable lending ratio of 63%, this is good. The interest rate increasing, and if this remains fixed, the interest, rate increasing benefit cannot be enjoyed, if that is the case. So these are the partners, business alliances partners with SBI Group's capital. It's listed up here, and our investment, and where we have a high shareholding ratio, like, Shimane Bank, 33.7%.

Voting rights-based shareholding ratio, 33.7%. When announced, it's at 0.19, and right now, it's 0.43. For Fukushima Bank, our shareholding ratio is 17.9. When announced, it was 0.20, now it's 0.30. Chikuhō Bank, we only have 2.9% of, shareholding. And Shimizu Bank, 2.4%. There's no consultation of, "Oh, our business performance is going to be such and so," to us. Those, type of banks, there's no way we can give them a proactive advice or do something proactively. That is why the PBR has gone down. And relatively speaking, Tōwa, our bank, is about the same because, 1.0, so 0.22, 0.23.

Jimoto Holdings is 0.36, became 0.60, and we have 17% shareholding ratio. Tsukuba Bank, voting rights based on shareholding ratio is 0.7%. But even though the holding ratio is small, the stock price is increasing. And various, Morita-san is a consultant on various bases, and we also actively provide them advice, and they actually implement that. And that is why their PBR is experiencing this much. Taiko, in that sense, is quite strong. 2.8% is our shareholding ratio. However, you can see that the PBR is increasing. If you look at the numbers, they will tell you the whole story. This as well, on July 28th, BOJ decided to make the operation of its yield curve control policy more flexible at the monetary policy meeting.

And of course, because of that, the share price will increase, so everybody is experiencing an increase in their share price, as you can see here. Basically, the regional banks, the share price will increase, especially for the banks. The banks, we have a close relationship, and where they have a deposit, they experience an increase. And like Shimane Bank, 2 banks that will implement our advice, all of them, and they have Shimane. The deposit balance has reached JPY 40 billion. And president of the bank, having this much of increase in the deposit balance never has happened. And university new graduates have joined us, so many.

The president of the bank was saying, "Because of you, SBI, we were able to change this much." We have been telling them, "No, it's because of your efforts, that you have changed this much." This JPY 40 billion is because Shimane using our data and using our methodology. Look at all the other banks; they're saying: "Oh, we have done this, we have utilized that." And how much of them are succeeding? Also, Net Kirayaka Sakuranbo, our branch, they have already surpassed JPY 10 billion in only two months. Next, finally, heading towards the next generation banking system. The core system is starting to build up. 2024, the first phase of Fukushima Bank will implement this.

With this, the system cost, the annual utilizing a model system cost, burden, will be leveled. And once every 10 years with the update, they have to spend JPY 10 billion or so, and they had a large amount of expense, and I felt that we need to change that. And regarding regional banks, I thought that this is a system we need to change for regional banks. And also, the operating efficiency was too low. And, there's an analyst who's saying that our operating system is not going well or failed. There's a foolish analyst saying that, but I think the situation is moving towards the sound situation. What do you think, Asakura-san?... Conducting the asset management and operation of that, it's not an easy thing that just because the regional bank has a portfolio manager.

And there's a JGB. And also, the foreign bonds, there are, you hear that they have failed, and because it's foreign for FX, it has to be hedged, but that has not been done, and of course, that's why it fails. So everything is behind the times, from my perspective. The launch of the SBI common ATM service will start at the Sendai Bank and Kirayaka Bank start its operation, and towards March of 2024, all ATMs will be replaced and turnover. Cost savings from the introduction of the system are expected to be around JPY 800 million over 10 years in total. Why do you, why do you have to change your bank book if you change bank? Because the bank account changes. Why don't we have a common bank book? Why do banks spend money on such so?

I kept saying that, and is it changing? Also, savings bank, as I said before, South Korea increased rapidly their interest rate, and in January from 1.25- 1.32, excuse me, 3.25- 3.5, and then the situation changed at that point. Us, in 2013, when I acquired this, the delinquency rate was 56% and 51.6%, and it has improved to 4.8%. When we got involved, the delinquency rate was improved. Because of that, their performance has went up at KRW 4 billion, and it's recovering. We are seeing signs of improvement in the Korean economy. The property price, even though it's slightly, is a turn to an increase.

Also, the property market has continued to fall, but it is starting to slightly increase. The insurance business, both the SBI Life Insurance and SBI Insurance, they need to have investment policies that anticipate a future phase of rising interest rate. The assets under management of yen bonds and alternative assets at the end of first half of 2023 increased by 22% from the end of FY 2022. So they need to make the interest rate a variable interest. If you make it a fixed, they'll get impact negatively. The investment income and expenditure are showing results with yen bonds and private funds improving approximately 1.4 x and 1.9 x respectively year on year. Look at the dividend yield. We are having this much a dividend yield.

We have many of those. And also the private offering fund, 1.2-1.9 x. I've been tracing the case of Bigmotor all the way, and the agency type nine life insurance business in such way cannot continue operation. The domestic market is saturated, and how increase the profitability and sales within the saturated domestic market, I felt that it ends up like that, watching TV. But in our case, basically, we don't have such a situation. And also, the online direct sales cost is low and is safe. And what we need to do is to grasp the major players' share. If that is so, the market is not going to saturate.

The major players, they say the market is going to saturate, so they're going to expand their business to Southeast Asia, go to Dubai, go to U.S. There are cases that have succeeded, there are cases that have failed, other cases that they have been impacted by FX. Various cases exist. Customer-centric principles, that's all. Focusing on developing products that capture changes in investment environment, such as interest rate in the asset management business. This centric character in Japanese, it is saying that you show with your own thoughts. Our strong feelings are incorporated. That's why we're using this Chinese character. Each Chinese character used in Japanese has a meaning. Plan to launch and manage a new JGB investment fund in anticipation of changes in the interest rate environment in Japan.

Establish a joint venture with the leading overseas asset management companies to provide alternative investment products. SBI, as you see, SBI JGB Fund, quarterly settlement type. This is the. This has the trust fee of only 0.099%, which is the lowest fee level in Japan. This is a new product, which is the active fund based upon bond. This is what we are going to launch. And then, this is about the asset management. What is important about asset management? We often people talk about alternatives.

... So in the past one year and four months period here, U.S. equity, 18.1% reduction, and the U.S. bond, it also dipped by 17.8%, so both of them dipped. In the past, when stock is good, then bond is lower, so there, that means you can choose one of these two. So that was the selection out of two. And, yeah, we start, that we were able to enjoy certain level of performance, but today, it is not available anymore. Then what shall we do? Then comes alternative assets. This is why we, in a thoroughgoing manner, we focus upon the alternative products. Institutional investors, they use actively the alternative assets, but how about the general investors? What shall we do? What the ordinary people should do?

That's what we'd like to supply and offer to them. That is the basic idea about our product. In the past, the PIMCO or the Vanguard, working together with them, they are, they are the leading, they are players in this, the area, and we expanded JPY 1.3 trillion, that is the the AUM surpassed by Vanguard, JPY 1.4 trillion for the in case of, or JPY 1.2 trillion in case of PIMCO. And the so they are, they are very thankful. The it was good that PIMCO created the joint venture with us, so they are thankful. But of course, this will not continue as it is.

So we need to create a new market based upon alternative assets, alternative, the strategy based upon the diversification, private equity, real estate, infrastructure. These are alternative assets, so they are to look into these opportunities as well. So that is the reason why we decided to work together with Man and KKR. We decided to create the joint ventures with them. So by the end of December 2023, we are going to establish. We are targeting to establish a joint venture with these two companies, and we are working on the contract right now. So under the current economic environment, the most suitable alternative products are to be offered. Man is the significant group. To tell you, it was established back in 1783.

It is one of the largest asset management companies focusing upon alternative asset management. They have the asset, which is JPY 20.3 trillion. There is the president, who is the lady and the respectable woman. Also, the smallest unit of investment is JPY 5 million. That is what is available in the market. But we are trying to create a product which can be purchased for as little as JPY 10,000, and it is for the benefit of the people. And KKR, well, this was the front page feature article by Nikkei.

So this is a company established in 1976 in the U.S., and one of the largest comprehensive asset management firms. And the JPY 74.9 trillion, that is the assets under management. Well, when the representative of KKR came to see me, well, I said that it is a waste of time if this is just the courtesy call. So the very rare for Japanese the management to speak so straightly and in a straightforward manner, but that's it. And between us, Asakura-san worked very hard on the negotiation. So after the first encounter, well, Asakura-san was in charge of the following negotiation process.

The KKR's founder was the person who is the head of this company. It is important to have the top-to-top communication. So they have the private equity, real estate, infrastructure, natural resources, and private debt. And by the first half of 2024, we are going to start providing products. So the AUM, by the end of 2027, we target to achieve JPY 20 trillion. Right now, it is JPY 8.5 trillion, but the AUM shall be increased up to JPY 20 trillion. Because of the Forex volatility, because of the change in monetary policy, trading revenues are expected to continue to grow in the securities business. FX, as you know, volatility. When volatility rises, well, the transaction volume increases, and that is the most profitable timing.

So when the market moves, then that is the time when business will become most beneficial. In many countries from now on, at the various timing, at different timings, this will happen. So every time this happens, well, as a major event, well, the question is what's going to happen to the war? That's one of the major events. So when there is an event, of course, I'm not happy about such event. Well, the war should be finished as soon as possible. It is ridiculous to do something like that, a war. But the moves, the FX market and also the president who will be the next U.S. president? It seems that, well, I feel it may be Donald Trump once again, the that's-...

What may happen, well, yeah, that's what I feel from the atmosphere. Donald Trump, I know he has his own—he's talented man. America first, make America great again. So, looking at these phrases and the buzzwords or the slogans he uses, it is very skillful. And if I—well, when he speaks publicly, I usually watch him over the internet. It is interesting and fun to watch. He doesn't have a very good vocabulary. He repeats using the same words, so it is not a good learning experience when it comes to English learning. Yeah, this shows the comparison of number of accounts and the margin balance of deposits of 5 FX companies. So the 2 million, the account and the numbers were surpassed in June 2023 for us.

Other companies are staying flat. Among FX companies, the customer, the margin deposit of FX trading related to companies. So as you see, they are flat, but we are rising. And the commission-free trading, so this also contributes to these activities as well. So this is a positive impact on the entire ecosystem. Customers of the global asset allocation and we are focusing upon sales of foreign bonds as part of the efforts to strengthen customers' global asset allocation. When I was at the Nomura, global asset allocation, well, the Japanese equity started rising, and the Nikkei Dow rose sharply, and Ko-Tabuchi, the president back then, well, a couple of days ago, he passed away, but Ko-Tabuchi, GAA, he was always talking about the global asset allocation, GAA.

Kitao-san, yeah, Japanese equity, looking at the Japanese equity. Well, it is not a good idea to only focus upon Japanese equity. Please, look at other things like the U.S. equity or the European equity. And thanks to that experience, I visited the U.K. to introduce the Japanese issues. It was a hard time for me. So every three months or so, I had the business trip very frequently, and, well, the documents that I brought to these countries, they become obsolete after one month. So GAA, Ko-Tabuchi started this global asset allocation. Ko-Tabuchi, as far as I know, among the past president, Okumura, the Segawa, Tabuchi-san, Tabuchi-san, in the past, the Nomura presidents, well, Nomura's CEOs were chosen, and they were the best most suitable person at the time.

The most prominent person among them was Ko-Tabuchi. He was so smart, and I was impressed, and he was very kind to me. And SBI, the foundation, he served as the president of our foundation, of SBI, even after he turned 90 years of age. In many ways, so for example, he helped abuse the children, he had many ideas, and they give us many ideas to us. So among all the learnings that I did in the past, he was the person who gave me the most important and biggest learning, so I miss him very much. So this is about the foreign bonds, sales of foreign bonds. GAA, well, this word, expression, when I prepared this material, I remembered him and decided to use this expression.

So there is a shift from a savings to asset management, that is the policies. And we are going to promote the Zero Revolution in order to popularize the investment. And the impact of the Zero Revolution on the SBI Securities customer base, at the end of September this year, we reached 11 million accounts opened. So usually, well, the 13.1%, the CAGR growth rate. So this was the growth rate. Nomura is not growing so much, but in case of us, between March 2009 through September 2023, we grew at 13.1%. Our customer base is expanding, and our customers are young. Nomura's customers, they are in their sixties or even older. Well, when they face the inheritance issue, what's going to happen?

Well, there will be a significant difference. So this shows the number of newly opened accounts, as well as margin trading accounts opened. So after the announcement of Zero Revolution, we reached record high for both of them. In August, compared to July, 24.2% increase between July through August. In September, compared to July, 56.1% growth above July. That is the number of new accounts opened. So this is quite sharp, almost a vertical line. And when it comes to margin accounts opened, this is even more impressive. July 2023, compared to July 2023, 108.7% higher. And in September, 277.1% higher than July.

So this is totally different shape compared to the previous growth experience, and this happened after the announcement of Zero Revolution. So after announcement of Zero Revolution, the Rakuten Securities, well, you know, Rakuten, they are popular ones, and there has been an increasing transfer from Rakuten to us. So this domestic stock account, in and out transfers. So if June 2019 is one, then, back in September 2023, the outgoing transfer doesn't change, 2.7. However, the incoming transfer is 20.3 x more than June 2019. So there will be the second phase of Zero Revolution. I will talk about this later, but, yeah, please wait for that.

SBI Securities, we have been customer-centric since the founding of the company, and there has been a constant transfer, incoming domestic, stock, transfer to SBI. In case of Rakuten, so 1.9 outgoing out transfers, but, yeah, soon after the announcement, what comes, yeah, from Rakuten, the in transfer is 5.9 times higher. In case of Nomura Securities, compared to April 2022, in, on the out transfers are 1.6x , and in transfers, 9.3 x. Against the Daiwa Securities, compared to April 2022, they are 2.1 x versus 9.8 times. So after announcement, well, there some people said there will be no, not much impact. These were mentioned by many people. No impact? Well, do you think so?

Well, yeah, if that is what you think, then it may be good for us. So the effect of Zero Revolution also spills over to the customer acquisition through alliance. After the announcement of Zero Revolution, SMBC, so-called Olive, through alliance, the customer acquisition increased by 122% in September 2023, compared to the previous month of August. So as I mentioned, this impacts not just one channel. Through ecosystem, from various areas and the channels, it increases in many ways. SMBC Group, approximately 600,000 accounts was brokered by SMBC Group. Monthly accumulation amount through SMBC exceeds JPY 24 billion. So Ota-san, Mr. Ota, he wants SBI Securities so much, but of course, it doesn't work like Rakuten Securities.

Even if new businesses are introduced, well, they—I do not try to be too aggressive. I usually carefully introduce new businesses, and they nurture them, develop them to contribute to the entire group. That's what I do. When it comes to share of trading value, now they are 47.2%. This is the trend of share of individual stock trading value, and also, the share of individual margin trading value, 49.7%. Well, what I said is that both of them will be exceeding 50%. Well, this is before X day. SBI Securities' customer base is expanding, and it has positive impact upon the entire SBI Group. For the entire holdings, this will have a positive impact on what we do at the group as a whole.

The increase in the SBI Securities customer base spills over into various different cases. For example, in June 2019, SBI Shinsei Bank became the subsidiary in December 2021. In various other groups, a significant, significant expansion of the customer base was confirmed. For example, number of SBI Groups securities accounts increased by 134.3% compared to June 2019. Shinsei Bank the acquired in December, so that is how it is compared. However, for other operations, it is compared to June. Well, I didn't intend to announce this in order to disturb Rakuten's efforts. So we have been saying this since 2019, and, yeah, we spent time to be fully prepared. Then when we are ready we made announcement.

Well, the, Rakuten, or I didn't think anything about, the impact upon others like Rakuten at all. SBI Group, the, number of FX accounts increased by 68%, and number of accounts of SBI Sumishin Net Bank increased by 81.2%. So 8.2%, increase from the end of June 2019 to September 2023. This is the increase in SBI Shinsei Bank accounts, 8.2%. So we will continue to focus upon NISA and iDeCo, and, try to expand the customer base. SBI Securities has established a dominant position in the securities industry for NISA. So this shows the number of newly opened NISA accounts and the transfer. So 28.2% higher than July, and announcement was on the 31 of August.

But, yeah, some people probably knew that before that announcement. 61.7% higher than July, and in October, 68.1% higher than July. So it has continued to expand and increase. And so transfer of accounts is shown here. So all of a sudden, August, September, it started to pick up 41.5% higher compared to July. In October, 721.4% higher than July. So there, please look at this sharp rise. And the transfer from Rakuten Securities accounts for 51.6% of the total of 59,784. So they come from Rakuten. So customers are quite honest in their view. They are worried about Rakuten.

Having an account at Rakuten, we are not able to move our securities at Rakuten because it will be fixed. So customers were upset, and the pricing has been changed. Numbers are quite honest. So in my management approach, I focus upon numbers. I look at numbers, and when something goes wrong, then I look into that more deeply, try to identify the reason for the number. So starting from zero. Oh, this is the reason why we—I have been able to build this company into this level, and I thoroughly thought about various aspects of the business. And recently, I do not make any mistakes.

So SBI Securities has focused on NISA initiatives as an important strategic area in the industry. So this Zero Revolution, the second part was announced, and this is the no commission for individual U.S. stocks, including ADRs and overseas ETFs, U.S., China, Korea, Singapore, in new NISA. We made this announcement, right? Yes. So this is the second part of the Zero Revolution. In anticipation of the launch of the new NISA, provide products that contribute to long-term asset building for individual investors, including investment beginners in the asset management business. Asset management business, 47 for the NISA growth investment and 44 from SBI Okasan and eight from Rheos Capital Works. And with focusing on a customer's perspective, new products have been developed. For new areas, especially India and Global South. When you go to international meetings, you will always hear the discussion, Global South.

That should be included in asset management as well. India, there was a surprise. It was not started yet, but on the reservation basis, we collected more than JPY 5 billion. It may be in the analogy of China. The trade and the capital could turn around, and at that timing, I would like to visit China. There were some political risks. Well, I chose for Temasek in Singapore to develop a joint venture. I talked with Temasek and made joint venture, and then in China. Back then, the son of the then prime minister was welcomed as the CEO for the entity, and we started venture capital investment there. It was a big success. That is New Horizon Fund that I'm talking about.

And we have created many funds since then, and now India is in a similar situation, and they are going to be the number one country with population, in terms of population. I wanted to start semiconductor, because in India, with such large size of population and the mid-income people will increase dramatically. Motorization, that will happen. That was what happened with China, and that what happened with, in India as well. Prime Minister Modi, he urged us to do business in India. And I think I could enter Indian market. Middle East, we bought two auto companies, but that is not sufficient. And when we had the press conference about our semiconductor business, I said that, that we are going to make ecosystem in semiconductor area as well. Because when you have Saudi Arabia in mind, it will be difficult to do business only with foundry.

There should be ecosystem in Saudi Arabia as well. And of course, we should invest for that. And I thought that would be the quickest way to start business there. So, we are very focused on the Saudi Arabia, and the, the minister of the country visited me to discuss the matter. We are not talking about specifics, when we are going to, to start, the foundry there, but, we'd like to make contribution to Saudi Arabia as well. In the past, in Abu Dhabi, Suwaidi-san , before he became the head of the energy agency, he invited me to Imperial Hotel and asked me what we should do about Abu Dhabi. And I said, "The population is small, and the money is the largest asset of your country.

So you invest in the promising companies all over the world, and capitalizing on the money. And industry, which is not so labor-intensive, should be invited. Probably pharmaceutical," I said. "Or about financial business." I also urged them to start financial business because they have money. So that's the discussion that I had with Mr. Suwaidi at the Imperial Palace, and also I recommended strongly 5-ALA business. And this time, the 5-ALA factory is to be developed in Saudi Arabia because or anywhere in Middle East, there are many the patients of diabetes, and there are some particular diseases which are very common in the Middle East area, and that decreases the absorption of oxygen, and so that increases anemia. And 5-ALA could be effective for such medical condition as well.

After I turned 55, after talking like this for two hours, I lose oxygen in my brain. So before starting my speech, I had this special equipment here and to provide oxygen to my brain, but not anymore, because with 5-ALA, I don't need it anymore. That's why the 5-ALA is taken by the Olympians as well. For example, Morita San is a sportsman, triathlon. And he can tell what difference 5-ALA makes. That will increase the oxygen consumption level by 50% or so. So the Olympians are taking it. It has nothing to do with doping, because this is the substance that your own body creates as well. So this was a big hit, really, 5-ALA. That's a big hit. So anyway, the global south, this is also selling very well.

Moving on, iDeCo. From the very beginning, I told my staff that to make commission-free, I started it in 2017. So the SBI Benefit Systems was launched, and they were in the red completely, but now they are profitable. 2015, the CAGR is 33.9%, individual type and corporate type combined, and the balance of the investment trust for 401(k), individual type, corporate type, by SBI Securities, is increasing 47.4% CAGR. Such track record. And it should be in Japan as well, because it is happening in the rest of the world. NISA was already there in the U.K. before it was started in Japan. Mr. Suga, 53% out of 54% of JPY 2,100 trillion should be shifted to investment. That's what Mr.

Suga said to me. And this is the only asset this country has, except human resources. Such huge savings of the people should be used in a better way. And this is the iDeCo's accumulated number. It exceeded 860,000 in September 2023. The Tokio Marine was surpassed by us. And now SBI Securities are going to work on the replacement of our revenue. The financial revenue is still big. SBI Securities has JPY 6 trillion. So financial revenues are increasing continuously. Trading revenues as well, including FX, for example. And of which, the 12.1% is related to online domestic stock transactions. So revenues from commissions not subject to the Zero Revolution has continued to increase. Commissions, transactions excluding online domestic stock, up 10.1%.

Online domestic stock transactions, up 25%. So this part will be zero. This JPY 12.3 billion will be zero. And it will be completely offset. Now, I have more confidence that the we can offset it completely after two or three meetings, giving instructions to do this and to do that, for example, to Takamura-san. And that kind of discussion is going on. And of course, Takamura-san and his team are working on some sources, some new projects. It will take some time. But I'm sure that the those works will pay off. The financial revenue, the open interest credit balance is on the increase. And the further increased financial revenue, actually year-on-year basis, up 51.3%. This is something.

The faster rating pace of increase in investment trust fees, up 10.7%, with such low fees still, +10.7%. Monthly accumulation amount has exceeded already JPY 100 billion. Investment trust balance accumulated more than JPY 1.2 trillion per year. And wholesale area, the growth is obvious. For the IPO, underwriting share is one thing, but not only that, for the PO underwriting business, we underwrote 14 POs and 32 bond offerings. The numbers continue to increase. For underwriting, online securities and large securities. What is the definition of large securities, and why large securities versus online securities? Such, the articles are written by someone who doesn't know, the real picture. Ten years ago, the real brick-and-mortar securities firms lost their leading edge. Look at the rest of the world.

The reporters, journalists, have to learn more. SBI Securities is the only online securities in the top ten in equity underwriting ranking. And I'm sure that, our rank will be better. For example, let's take the example of semiconductor business. How many corporate clients that will bring to us? One of the major goals for us is that, we have been focused on retail, and now that should be linked up with wholesale business. Wholesale, it's about corporates. So the connection, with, the corporate will make a difference in the number of underwritings and the number of lead manager positions. So everything is connected. One might say that the semiconductor is, irrelevant. No, it is relevant. And when you have dinner with business people, the main discussion point is semiconductor. "How much semiconductor are you buying?

If we make in Japan, would that fit the your business?" And people say that, "Yeah, we would appreciate it very much. What about 27 nano, the, is it, usable? What is the demand for W-on-W?" And people say that, "If you can make it, Kitao-san, in Japan, we will buy your products." Then they don't need to import these products anymore, semiconductor products. If we make them in Japan, we have the very traditional, historic, the manufacturing culture. Actively promoting investments and business development in the field of digital assets, in preparation for the advent of the full-fledged digital world. So the, with people in Saudi Arabia, in Middle East, when we discuss with them, the, the Western countries are very interested in the digital area. It's no comparison, with Japan.

But SBI is an exception in the eye of those people in Middle East. So SBI Digital Space Fund, the size of JPY 100 billion, is to—was launched, and the crypto asset ecosystem and Global Corridor, it's showing good results. And NFT. NFT has not come to its end yet. You might have the impression, but there is the future for NFT. So as of JPY 100 billion was already collected... I mean, the JPY 55 billion was collected as of November, and the remainder will be collected, and already 43 companies are participating. And expand the crypto asset ecosystem and maximize profitability, driven by the recent recovery of the crypto asset market. Basically, crypto asset markets are inversely correlated to U.S. interest rates. When the interest rate goes up, Bitcoin price goes down, and that's what happened.

Now it is over JPY 5.5 million. That's the price of Bitcoin in terms of yen. So U.S. ten-year yield and Bitcoin price correlation. As rates go up, a risk of mood spreads, and clear negative correlation develops. For asset managers, such correlation, inverse correlation, is welcome, and you might want to increase such, the assets in your portfolio. When you look at the correlation, the correlation coefficient is very important. I always ask, a question about correlation. Ethereum, Bitcoin, are the similar movements. Big change is coming up because the filing for crypto asset ETF is happening, and we are waiting for the result, and that will dictate the future of crypto assets. Institutional investors start to involve more, or it will come to a halt. We are coming to that turning point.

SEC is losing, has lost lots of litigations in this space, and I'm paying lots of attention. Institutional investors, they are interested in this asset class, which moves differently from other assets, so it's something that they want to have in their portfolio. Ripple Labs won the litigation. And Chris, the founder, and Brad were in the litigation, but that was withdrawn by the SEC, and they are gaining momentum. International money transfer in that area, Ripple Labs is the leading player. And very early on, we became the outside top shareholder of Ripple, because I thought that they will be the leader in the space, and that's why I wanted to buy their shares when the share price was relatively low. Initiatives in the crypto asset business for the future. Everything, I think-

... forms ecosystem, semiconductor, financials, crypto asset. Ecosystem and supporting functions are there as well, and the core companies are strengthened in that ecosystem. So we are continuously making ecosystem. And making such ecosystem, so compared to 2021, in September 2023, the number of customers was fivefold. This, staking service, I think, is quite interesting. This staking means that it adopts the Proof of Stake system on the blockchain. Generation and approval of blocks and supporting the operation of the blockchain network, which adopts this mechanism in accordance with the amount of crypto assets. So as the reward to support such operation, the money is granted. Just holding it, not doing anything about it, money comes in. That is possible. This, the global financial institutions are having interest in this.

So this is showing the staking reward rates of the staking names that are named we provided by the SBI Group Crypto Asset Business. There are things—there, there are ones that make a lot of money. This is something that we need to thoroughly study. I have been instructing my subordinates to do so. And trade finance. We are investing in the trade finance. But, one more that we are focusing at is XDC Network with TradeFinex , which is a Dubai-based venture that we are going to establish under the basic agreements that we have entered to expand the crypto asset ecosystem. And this is interesting, too, Dubai, and it's—if you go to Riyadh in Saudi Arabia, you'll be surprised how much of skyscrapers there are located there.

When I went there in the past, it was all a desert, but with the desalination plant, the saltwater became desalted. I was surprised. In the past, get at the airport, go to Abu Dhabi, you get on the taxi from the airport. It took me about 2.5 hours, and all I see on the way was deserts. But nowadays, you see everything, hotel or the international so-called super grade hotels are located there. By the way, next time, at the Expo, Saudi Arabia is going to make the largest pavilion in the Expo here, and we are introducing them, a biotechnology companies to them, and we also, we will make an SBI exhibition, a pavilion for the biotechnology as well. SBI Group endeavors to establish the world's largest global corridor for the distribution of digital assets.

As Singapore's to Project Guardian, we are joined in as the main member, and Japan's Financial Services Agency has joined, too, and we did various pilot cases, and all of them are going well, as written here. The tokenized financial products, we have conducted the cross-border transaction of such, and the Singapore government is planning to progress this, granting the license moving forward. That is why they have conducted this pilot case. SBI, UBS, and Singapore Cboe are all participating. Also, Thailand, Siam Commercial Bank, ten exchanger. SBI Digital Asset Holdings and SIX Digital Exchange, and Germany's Digital Gold, and in Singapore, AsiaNext. This is institutional investors digital asset exchange, and this was allowed or approved by the Monetary Authority of Singapore.

Also, this SBI Digital Markets is located in Singapore, and it has acquired the capital markets services from the Monetary Authority of Singapore. So in a full-fledged, we are able to start various businesses. And furthermore, in Japan as well, under the tokenized economy, we have established the PTS, Proprietary Trading System, and we are distributing the security token. In the market, we have many markets, so we can issue them. The property-backed or asset-backed security token can be issued. And up to now, that was only in the issuing market, but not the distribution market, and we've been working on that. And we created the PTS, the Proprietary Trading System, for this.

Here you see the Osaka Digital Exchange, and this time, the Canadian, a major exchange like Cboe or the globally market maker, Virtu, and the option trading Optiver that has strengths in it. All these international players has joined and is going to increase the momentum of the international city, Osaka. We will have the PTS established that has the screening system. Developing business related to NFT, the use of which is expected to expand rapidly with the spread of digital asset. This as well, we are working on it actively. Looking at the statistics of the global demand, 68.2%, there will be a growing at the CAGR of 68.2% between 2022 and 2028. Yes, I think so as well.

Within that environment, I think this is going to also increase Gumi's blockchain game. We are going to support the launch of this, and we have been conducting activities in Oasys. We have an alliance with them, and providing the gaming specific blockchain. And also at the Expo 2025, Osaka, Kansai, us, SMBC Group and Resona Group, a creative consortium. And we'll provide the wallet service, Expo 2025 Digital Wallet, and I have attended the ceremony of this the other day. Creating a new business portfolio that will lead to lower performance volatility due to major changes in the business environment, such as financial market fluctuations. What I mentioned briefly before for the semiconductors, this is one of the perspectives we had for the business as well.

When we do such a thing, how we look at this is that we need to target where there is most demand. Rapidus, where are there going to be their customers? They haven't determined the customers, and they went received the request from the customers, and they're saying that they're going to make such a thing. Making a large investment, and you don't know how it is going to be what the profitability is going to be, then why are you making that? We know clearly who will be using. It's EV because it use three times the semiconductor components to the compared to the gasoline-run vehicle. Telecommunications, infrastructures, and AI is going to further grow and increase from now onwards.

The logic semiconductor, you can see that the demand is continuously increasing. And also, JSMC Holdings was established. And within the holdings, various ecosystem building companies will come under. And also, in the future, within Japan, we will be establishing a new site in Japan, and we will list it and create various values in the future. It's what we are thinking. The ecosystem is created with these, the front end and the back end. Having both available is important, not just the foundry, but that way of thinking did not exist in Japan. It has to exist together. Well, to begin with, the way of thinking of foundry did not exist for a long time. Well, in a full-fledged way.

That is why Taiwan, everything is in Taiwan or, the United States, the global foundries have been taking over. TSMC's Morris Chang, it seems that he was saying to my partner, our partner, Frank: "Japan is the best location. I have a large plant in Arizona, but it's stuck." Meaning that one after another, there are various regulations, and with that, we are facing a situation that we can no longer move forward. And also in Japan, the reason why we have decided the plant location in Miyagi Prefecture is because... Well, as an information, I heard that Kioxia is not, going to last that long. Listening to, Mr. Nishimura's, talks, it seems, they will still, survive. However, what is going to happen to them? We don't know.

And then we can take in the people from there if something happens there. Such a decision was made. Oh, whether it's a rumor or is it talks from the industry? Well, this is information from PSMC. So I think that such situation does exist, meaning that discussions don't bear fruit amongst the partner candidate companies. We are already making investments in these companies. They're all semiconductor-related companies, and we are going to further narrow this down, aggregate them, and create a ecosystem. That's the way of thinking. And also, Miyagi Prefecture, we are very appreciative. This location, they have created an office to welcoming us, and I hear that there's a banner that is put up at the close by a station.

So at the foundry, the production plan, we are going to 40 nano. Phase two is from 2029, and I think this foundry has the most promising future because the things will gradually transfer over to 28 nano. And what will be the base of our design is Taiwan's PSMC's latest P5 that will manufacturing the 28 nano. We will be constructing the exactly the same thing. And so the design fee can be kept low, and the equipments that will be ordered for this foundry, we will bring it in at a low price as much as possible and establish this a foundry. And we are thinking of sales under the J-GAAP, approximately JPY 40 billion.

The first page, the second phase, one hundred and ninety billion and fifty billion in operating income. And W-on-W, which is a 3D stacking technology. What they do is they actually touch the wafers all at once. Previously, the logic and the memory were separately manufactured and connected with wiring. But with that, it has very low energy efficiency. But with this W-on-W, they were able to save 90% of power consumption, and the transmission speed is very fast, too. Strengthening our global online structure by leveraging our experience in the field of digital asset and other advanced technologies. And this is what I'm talking about, about Saudi Arabia, KACST. It's difficult to pronounce. It was like King Abdulaziz.

Well, the pronunciation is difficult, but King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology. It's not just a pure alliance. Please read this thoroughly. Cooperation and investment in the field of semiconductors in Japan and Saudi Arabia. Development of biotechnological solutions and ethical drugs centered around products using five ALA. And the promotion of innovative banking solutions utilizing digital technology and fintech. Development of human resources exchange programs targeted to nurture talent in the field of semiconductor, fintech, and biotechnology. In the semiconductor area, the talent from there sent over to Taiwan, and who has been sent to Taiwan, have them come here. That we are going to be actively conduct, and from Japan, we'll send people to Taiwan, and at the peak, there will be about 250 people. So again, it's actually the prince. Well, the prince.

Well, the king, who became king, have put all the efforts in this national science and technology lab. It's a prominent national research institute in Saudi Arabia and focusing on R&D and promoting innovation in a wide range of fields, including environment, energy, and medicine, in collaboration with organizations inside and outside Saudi Arabia. So like this, one after another, there's something that we will announce next week also. So in such way, the relationship with Saudi Arabia is something... is a relationship that is going to determine the SBI groups the prosperity or failing in the future. And PTS, let's create another one. Or furthermore, in Saudi Arabia, we have two already.

In Thailand, when we're talking about creating one in PTS, the Minister of Finance came to myself and seek for explanation. In the end, meaning that ours is quite highly evaluated internationally, so trying to enter this area in some way. Through Middle East, go to Africa, in Europe, especially with the United Kingdom, they have a long-term relationship with Africa. The remaining continent, Africa, how are we going to- entered the market, that's important theme. We have started with the second-hand vehicles. It is creating a profit, however, not remain at such a small scale business, but we need to think of something more grand. Business alliance and capital alliance with MyNavi.

We have acquired 10.59%. What MyNavi has is, at hiring the new graduates as of March 2023. Number of registered users is 820,000, number of companies listed, 28,200. MyNavi Tenshoku, number of member users, 7.94 million, and the number of companies listed is approximately 12,500. And, furthermore, starting from entering the company, making their own money, and how are they going to manage their asset and money, or from there, within their own lifestyle design, what kind of a house, what kind of housing loans will they have? It will start from entering a company, or it starts from changing jobs. Various things happen. So how are we going to grasp that timing fully?

Not just us. We, on a fee basis, will establish, will provide that to MyNavi. And in addition to that, well, you can read this, read through this later. With the regional financial institutions, we'll further strengthen MyNavi's partners, which is 34 regional banks and 42 Shinkin banks and credit cooperatives. How many are our partners? Well, MyNavi can should fully leverage this. And SBI Art Auction and Contemporary Art is the number one. In MyNavi Auction, around 30 auctions per year. And they have various products, so they have the largest number of auction products. They have M&A, they have real estate, they have BPO business, business process. In these areas, MyNavi is doing various things there. So what we can do together, we should put them together and improve efficiency.

So in that sense, we are saying that, let's pursue this synergies between both groups and collaborating on regional revitalization projects. Well, that's all, and my explanation, it's five minutes to six. So with this, I would like to conclude my explanation, and if you have questions, please go ahead.

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