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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Nov 3, 2022

Moderator

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to this audio webcast interview on Mayr-Melnhof Group interim results for the first three quarters of 2022 with the company CEO, Peter Oswald. Peter, having just reported third quarter results, what is your summary on the MM Group's development so far this year?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

I'm very pleased that we managed to achieve a strong performance throughout the first three quarters of this year, and this despite huge unprecedented challenges from spiraling cost inflation, instability of supply chains, persisting COVID, and increased global uncertainties. Demand for our renewable consumer packaging stayed strong and resilient. The past two years transformation of MM has started to pay off. We've concentrated on value-enhancing acquisitions and focused organic growth, combined with a strong emphasis on the improvement of productivity, sustainability, and innovation. In the first nine months, organic volume growth in packaging was close to 6%. On top, our income statement has been particularly influenced by the inclusion of the cardboard and paper mills, MM Kwidzyn, and MM Kotkamills, which we acquired a year ago. I'm very pleased to say that their returns have exceeded plans by a wide margin.

Now the acquisition of Essentra Packaging, which we finalized at the beginning of October, marked a further milestone in our strategic transformation. This acquisition positions MM as a global player in secondary pharma packaging and contributes to more resilience and growth throughout our business.

Moderator

In your Q3 report, you are addressing a looming recession. How are you preparing for this scenario, and how far are you already experiencing early indicators?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

Yeah, I don't know if there will be a recession and how tough it will be, but as a matter of fact, the packaging order book remains very strong. The order book in board and paper has significantly come down from all-time highs towards a normal pre-pandemic range, and the reason for that was de-stocking in the supply chain path, and that's very important, not a drop-off in final demand. Now, how are we preparing for it? We are continuously reducing our costs. We're improving our service and sticking to a conservative financing.

Moderator

In Q3, capacity utilization in board and paper came down to 91% from 99% in Q2. Do you expect more downtime to come in the next months or quarters?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

Over the next six months, there will be further de-stocking in the supply chain. As I said before, our consumer markets are resilient, and non-cyclical.

Moderator

Prices for energy, gas, electricity, and recycled fibers have come down significantly from past months' peak levels. What impact do you expect on your margins looking forward?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

We apply a flexible pricing strategy, among others with energy surcharges. If energy prices go down, we pass this reduction on to our customers with some delay.

Moderator

Since you are within a historically high CapEx program, how does cost inflation and availability of technical parts affect your planning?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

Most of our long-term CapEx project target to increase quality, reduce energy consumption, and raise output. Indeed, they do face some delays, but overall, we are on track. All machine rebuilds in board and paper, which are at Frohnleiten in Austria, Neuss in Germany, and Kočevje in Slovenia, are now scheduled for implementation during 2023, and we stick to the indicated CapEx range of up to EUR 300 million per annum for both 2022 and 2023.

Moderator

A competitor has announced a 750,000-tons machine for FBB, which is virgin fiber-based cartonboard, by 2025. What will be the impact on the FBB markets?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

Just to look at the numbers, this volume of 750,000 tons represents 30% of current European demand of around 2.5 million tons, so it's huge. Market growth has been improved due to a plastic substitution, but it's around 1%-3%. In overseas markets, we see more and more competition from Chinese overcapacities which have been built over the last two years. This CapEx will create significant overcapacity in FBB from 2025 onwards and will last for many years. However, we will defend our position as our FBB mills, Kwidzyn, Kočevje, and Kotkamills, are already well placed on the cost curve, and we will move them further down the cost curve with a number of investments.

Moderator

When presenting the Essentra Packaging acquisition for the first time, you mentioned that on the one hand, it is a great move market-wise, but on the other hand, the business is underperforming. What profit impact do you expect for this year and the years to come?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

Yeah. First, we are very happy that we've become a global leader in secondary pharma packaging. Since closing beginning of October, I've had the possibility to visit many customers and have a number of meetings with the new management. This makes me very confident to achieve and probably over-achieve our business plan. We have started to work on improving customer service, operational efficiency, and realizing our synergies. For the fourth quarter of this year, the impact on operating profit will be close to zero because of non-recurring acquisition accounting. Over the next three years we will increase our operating margin to MM standards.

Moderator

A secure energy supply and the move to alternative, more sustainable sources is a much-discussed topic. What are your precautions and how are you planning for MM's future energy supply?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

There is indeed a risk from potential gas rationing, except our mill MM Kwidzyn, and this has been mitigated with three actions. One is we've built up some reserve cartonboard stocks. Secondly, we have rented gas storage facilities in Austria, from which we could supply not just our Austrian, but also our German mills. We've done investments in alternative oil firing in Finland. I think overall we are well prepared, and midterm we will invest in energy savings, that's the most important, significantly to biomass and to some extent also photovoltaic to replace carbon-based energy. On top of reducing our economic risk from high energy costs, we follow ambitious science-based targets to mitigate climate change. This includes the reduction of both direct and indirect emissions from operations, as well as emissions from the value chain.

Moderator

Looking on the MM Group balance sheet, net debt currently amounts to around EUR 1.5 billion. How is this financed and do you see room for further acquisitions?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

Yeah. As everyone may recall, we financed most of our acquisitions and CapEx activities through Schuldscheindarlehen issued earlier in 2021 with an average duration of about eight years and an average fixed interest rates of 1.6%. We are with a very solid financing. We consider a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 2.5 times as a conservative threshold, and currently we are well below this threshold. As we focus on post-merger integration, acquisitions will not be a priority over the next 18 months. However, we might do smaller bolt-on acquisitions if they appear attractive to us, and we have the financing to do that.

Moderator

Finally, can you give a flavor on your perspectives and priorities beyond 2022?

Peter Oswald
CEO and Chairman of the Management Board, Mayr-Melnhof Karton

We will continue our strategy of long-term profitable growth by promoting innovative, renewable consumer packaging, and we will put strong focus on cost reduction, productivity, innovation and sustainability. 2023 will most likely be a difficult year, but I'm convinced we are well-positioned to develop our business further.

Moderator

Peter, thank you very much for this interview.

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