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Earnings Call: Q3 2014

Jul 22, 2014

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to this Apple Inc. third quarter fiscal year 2014 earnings release conference call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Nancy Paxton, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you. Good afternoon, thanks to everyone for joining us today. Speaking first is Apple CEO, Tim Cook, he'll be followed by CFO, Luca Maestri, then we'll open the call to questions from analysts. Please note that some of the information you'll hear during our discussion today will consist of forward-looking statements, including without limitation, those regarding revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, other income and expense, taxes, and future products. Actual results or trends could differ materially from our forecast. For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in Apple's Form 10-K for 2013, the Form 10-Q for the first two quarters of fiscal 2014, and the Form 8-K filed with the SEC today, along with the associated press release. Apple assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements or information, which speak as of their respective dates.

I'd now like to turn the call over to Tim for introductory remarks.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Thank you, Nancy, good afternoon, everyone. It's been a very busy and exciting time at Apple, I'd like to review some of the highlights of our June quarter. We hosted our best-ever Worldwide Developers Conference last month with over 20 million people from around the world watching our keynote session, which is a new record. We've had overwhelming response from customers and developers to the new features we previewed in OS X Yosemite and iOS 8. Yosemite has been redesigned with a fresh look and powerful new apps, iOS 8 is the biggest release since the launch of the App Store. With powerful continuity features, these upcoming releases will allow Macs and iOS devices to work together in even smarter ways.

Customers can start an activity like writing an email on one device and pass it to another, picking up where they left off without missing a beat. They'll even be able to make and receive iPhone calls on their Mac with just a click. These are features that only Apple can deliver. With iOS 8, we've opened over 4,000 APIs, providing more flexibility and opportunity for developers than ever before. iOS 8 provides developers with amazing new frameworks, enables wider use of Touch ID to securely authenticate users within apps, and lets developers further customize the user experience with major extensibility features such as third-party keyboards. We've also introduced Swift, an innovative new programming language for both iOS and OS X. Swift is the result of the latest research on programming languages, combined with decades of experience within building Apple platforms.

It makes writing code interactive and fun, eliminates entire classes of unsafe code, and generates apps that run lightning fast. It's easy to learn, allowing even more people to dream big and create whole new categories of apps. We believe our new OS releases combined with Swift will result in a huge leap forward for the Apple ecosystem, and we can't wait to see what developers will create with Yosemite, iOS 8, and Swift. When we introduced iOS seven years ago, it was a revolutionary operating system for iPhone. Over the years, we've extended it to the iPod family with iPod touch, and later to a tablet form factor with iPad. An explosion of apps, accessories, and services for these devices has created an incredibly vibrant ecosystem.

We're extending iOS in even more dimensions as customers around the world make iPhones and iPads an essential part of their lives at home, at school, at work, and on the go. We're putting a huge effort into delivering the best experience for our customers wherever they use iOS. That includes a safe and intuitive user interface while driving called CarPlay, which is being integrated by 29 major car brands including Audi, BMW, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Mercedes, Toyota, and Volvo, and aftermarket systems like Pioneer and Alpine. We've created a new tool for developers called HealthKit, which lets health and fitness apps work together and empowers customers to choose what health data they share. We're taking the first steps in this area in collaboration with the Mayo Clinic, whose new apps can automatically receive data from a blood pressure app, for example, and share it with a physician.

A nutrition app can inform fitness apps how many calories are being consumed each day. Our own health app will provide an easy-to-read dashboard of all health and fitness data. We're enabling new ways to control lights and doors and thermostats and other connected devices around the house using Siri with the HomeKit feature of iOS 8. In the enterprise, we're including new security, productivity, and device management features in iOS 8. We forged a relationship with IBM to deliver a new class of mobile business solutions to enterprise customers around the world. We're working together to provide companies access to the power of big data analytics right on every employee's iPhone or iPad. Using Swift, we'll collaborate to bring over 100 mobile-first apps to enterprise clients, each addressing a specific industry need or opportunity.

This is a radical step for enterprise and opens up a large market opportunity for Apple. More importantly, it's great for productivity and creativity of our enterprise customers. From the pocket to the car, to the workplace, home, and gym, we have a very large vision of what iOS can be, and we're incredibly excited about our plans. Turning to our financial results, today we're reporting record June quarter revenue thanks to the very strong performance of iPhone, Mac, and the continued growth of revenue from the Apple ecosystem. Our teams executed brilliantly during the quarter with earnings per share up 20% year-over-year, our highest growth rate in seven quarters. We sold over 35 million iPhones, setting a new third-quarter record. We generated healthy growth in our entry price, mid-tier, and lead iPhone categories.

I'm especially happy about our progress in the BRIC countries, where iPhone sales were up a very strong 55% year-over-year. We also had a record June quarter for Mac sales, with growth of 18% year-over-year in a market that is shrinking by 2% according to IDC's latest estimate. Demand has been very strong for our portables in particular, and we've had a great customer response to the new higher performance, lower price MacBook Air. It was another strong performance for the App Store and the other services contributing to the thriving Apple ecosystem. In fact, for the first nine months of this fiscal year, the line item that we call iTunes Software and Services has been the fastest growing part of our business. iTunes billings grew 25% year-over-year in the June quarter and reached an all-time quarterly high thanks to the very strong results from the App Store.

We're continuing to invest in our incredible ecosystem, which is a huge asset for Apple and a very important differentiator of our customer experience. iPad sales met our expectations. We realized they didn't meet many of yours. Our sales were gated in part by a reduction in channel inventory and in part by market softness in certain parts of the world. For example, IDC's latest estimate indicates a 5% overall decline in the U.S. tablet market as well as a decline in the Western European tablet market in the June quarter. What's most important to us is that customers are enjoying their iPads and using them heavily. In a survey conducted in May by ChangeWave, iPad Air registered a 98% customer satisfaction rate, while iPad mini with Retina display received an astonishing 100% customer satisfaction rate.

The survey also found that among people planning to purchase a tablet within 90 days, 63% plan to buy an iPad and our own data indicates that more than half of customers purchasing an iPad are buying their very first iPad. Another recent study by Custora found that iPad accounts for 80% of all U.S. tablet-based e-commerce purchases. We're very bullish about the future of the tablet market, and we're confident that we can continue to bring significant innovation to this category through hardware, software, and services. We think our partnership with IBM, providing a new generation of mobile enterprise applications designed with iPad's legendary ease of use and backed by IBM's cloud services and data analytics, will be one such catalyst for future iPad growth. Looking ahead, we are very excited about our agreement to purchase Beats Electronics and Beats Music.

Music is part of Apple's DNA, and we think the addition of the Beats team will be great for music lovers. Beats provides Apple with a fantastic subscription music service, access to rare talent, and a fast-growing lineup of products that we can build upon. Not counting Beats, we've completed 29 acquisitions since the beginning of fiscal year 2013, including five since the end of the March quarter, and we've brought some incredible technology and, more importantly, some incredible talent into Apple in the process. We're hard at work and investing heavily on exciting opportunities across our business, and we have an incredible pipeline of new products and services that we can't wait to show you. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Luca to discuss our Q3 results in more detail.

Luca Maestri
CFO, Apple

Thank you, Tim, and good afternoon, everyone. We set a new June quarter record for revenue at $37.4 billion, up $2.1 billion or 6% year-over-year. This result was towards the high end of our guidance range, despite the reduction in channel inventory for both iPhone and iPad. The revenue growth was driven by strong sales of iPhones and Macs, as well as the continued great performance of iTunes, Software and Services. Gross margin was 39.4% above our guidance range, and operating margin was $10.3 billion, representing 27.5% of revenue. Net income was $7.7 billion, translating to diluted earnings per share of $1.28 at 20% year-over-year increase. For details by product, I'd like to start with iPhone. We sold 35.2 million iPhones, an increase of 4 million over last year, representing 13% growth. As Tim mentioned, iPhone sales grew well across all three of our enterprise, mid-tier, and lead product categories.

In the U.S., iPhone accounts for 41.9% of the smartphone subscriber base, according to the latest data from comScore, up from 41.3% in the previous measurement period. Also, based on the latest survey by ChangeWave, iPhone earned a 97% customer satisfaction rate, and among respondents planning to purchase a smartphone within 90 days, 50% plan to purchase an iPhone, up from 42% in the March quarter and 44% a year ago. iPhone sales were at the high end of our expectations, despite new product rumors that we believe resulted in purchase delay. In addition, tax increases and the regulatory environment in Japan affected smartphone sales in what has been one of iPhone's fastest-growing markets in recent quarters. Considering these factors, the performance of iPhone was even more impressive in the June quarter, and it boosts our confidence for the future.

We reduced iPhone channel inventory by about 150,000 from the end of the March quarter, leaving us within our target range of four to six weeks. Apple continues to innovate through hardware, software, and services to make iPhone the best smartphone for business. Today, companies have equipped millions of employees with iPhones, and they're seeing tremendous benefits in productivity, employee satisfaction, and profitability. For instance, medical device leader Medtronic has developed over 175 internal iOS apps for over 16,500 iPhones used by its employees to facilitate sales, improve productivity, and ensure that essential marketing materials are up to date. Throughout the global offices of Nestlé, the largest food company in the world, over 25,000 iPhones are accessing corporate networks, improving communication, and connecting employees to critical internal resources. At NASA, over 26,000 iPhones are in use by scientists, flight crew members, technicians, and researchers.

Turning to iPad, we sold 13.3 million units compared to 14.6 million in the June quarter last year. iPad sales grew overall in the developing markets, with particularly strong year-over-year growth in the Middle East, where iPad sales were up 64%, in China, where they grew 51%, and in India, where they were up 45%. This growth was more than offset by lower sales in more mature markets. We reduced iPad channel inventory by 500,000 from the end of the March quarter, which left us within our target range of four to six weeks. In the enterprise, global companies are using iPad to improve customer service, boost worker productivity, and enhance critical processes. iPad continues to be the standard for teams across the airline industry.

Qantas Airlines has over 15,000 iPads deployed to pilots as well as cabin, customer service, and ground crews to enhance key processes across the daily operations. Governments are deploying thousands of iPads worldwide. One of the largest examples is Sweden, where over 100,000 iPads are being used by local government offices across the country. In education, iPad remains the tablet of choice, with 85% share of the U.S. education tablet market, according to the latest published estimate from IDC. We've now sold 13 million iPads to education customers globally. We're bringing teachers and students great new tools to build and experience educational content on iPad. As of this month, teachers using the free iTunes U app can create, edit, and manage entire courses directly on iPad for the first time.

Students can discover new ways to collaborate, including the ability to start class discussions and ask questions right from their iPad. Next, I'd like to talk about the Mac. We sold 4.4 million Macs compared to under 3.8 million in the year-ago quarter, an increase of 18% year-over-year, and a new June quarter record. The increase was driven by portables, thanks to very strong growth of MacBook Air. We achieved strong double-digit Mac growth across many countries, including the U.S., Canada, Mexico, the U.K., Germany, France, Australia, China, India, and the Middle East. This growth is particularly impressive given the contraction of the overall PC market. Macs have now gained global market share for 32 of the last 33 quarters. Macs performed well in the U.S. education buying season with double-digit growth in the K-12 market, driven primarily by large deployments of MacBook Air.

The Shawnee Mission School District in Kansas chose Apple to provide an entire solution that will equip every teacher with a MacBook Air and an iPad Air, every high school student with a MacBook Air, and every middle school and elementary student with an iPad. The Rowan-Salisbury School System in North Carolina is deploying thousands of MacBook Airs to students and teachers in grades nine through 12 as part of the district's digital learning initiatives. We ended the quarter with Mac channel inventory slightly below our four-to-five week target range. The Apple ecosystem continues to grow and thrive. Total revenue from iTunes, Software and Services was $4.5 billion, an increase of 12% year-over-year. Our iTunes stores generated all-time record billings of $5.4 billion in the June quarter, up 25% year-over-year, driven by very strong growth in App Store sales.

These iTunes billings translated to quarterly iTunes revenue of almost $2.6 billion, up 8% from the year-ago quarter. Software and Services revenue was $1.9 billion, up 19% from a year ago. App Store momentum remains very strong, cumulative app downloads have topped 75 billion. We continue to be amazed by our vibrant and diverse developer community. We're extremely proud that our developers have now earned over $20 billion for sales of their apps through the App Store, nearly half of which have been earned in the past 12 months. This number truly stands out among our competition as our developers continue to benefit from the broad reach and thoughtful design of the App Store, coupled with Apple's large, loyal, and very engaged customer base. Let me now turn to our cash position.

We ended the quarter with $164.5 billion in cash plus marketable securities, a sequential increase of $13.9 billion. Our domestic cash was $26.8 billion at the end of the June quarter, a sequential increase of $8.3 billion, and $137.7 billion or 84% of our total cash was offshore. Cash flow from operations was $10.3 billion. We executed another very successful debt offering in April, issuing a total of $12 billion in notes across three, five, seven, 10, and 30-year maturities. In addition, during the quarter, we entered the commercial paper market for the first time, with $2 billion in short-term obligations outstanding as of the end of June. We also continue to execute our shareholder return program with $8.3 billion of capital returned to investors during the June quarter. We spent $5 billion to repurchase 59 million Apple shares through open market transactions.

We paid almost $2.9 billion in dividends and equivalents and utilized over $400 million to net share sale vesting employee RSUs. We've now taken action on over $74 billion of our $130 billion capital return program, including $51 billion in share repurchases, with six quarters remaining to its completion. Finally, our board has declared a dividend of $0.47 per common share payable on August 14, 2014, to shareholders of record as of August 11, 2014. Now, as we move ahead into the September quarter, I'd like to review our outlook, which includes the types of forward-looking information that Nancy referred to at the beginning of the call. We expect revenue to be between $37 billion and $40 billion, compared to $37.5 billion in the year-ago quarter. We expect gross margin to be between 37% and 38%. We expect OpEx to be between $4.75 billion and $4.85 billion.

We expect OIE to be about $250 million, we expect the tax rate to be about 26.1%. Finally, we expect the Beats transaction to close this quarter, we expect the acquisition to be accretive to our earnings in our fiscal 2015. With that, let me open the call to questions.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you, Luca, we ask that you limit yourself to one hard question and one follow-up, please. Operator, may we have the first question?

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, you may do so by pressing star one. Your first question will come from Katy Huberty with Morgan Stanley.

Katy Huberty
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes, thanks. Luca, this is the third quarter in a row that gross margin came in above your guidance. Can you talk about what's driving that gap and why you expect the margin to come down sequentially in the September quarter?

Luca Maestri
CFO, Apple

Yes, Katy. It was obviously a surprise also to us. We were expecting, obviously, a loss in leverage from the sequential decline in revenue, which obviously happened. We also expected some unfavorable mix, which also happens. It's typical as we move away from the launch quarter. We were expecting some cost improvements. These cost improvements came in. They came in stronger than we were anticipating. The commodity markets continue to be favorable. The product quality continues to be excellent. Our teams executed really well. All these things came together at the same time, and it was a very nice surprise for us. As we look forward into Q4, yes, we've guided to 37%-38%. Again, the mix is the normal mix that we see as we continue to move through the product cycle.

Obviously, in Q4, we got some transition costs because we're expecting a very busy fall. We're very excited about what we got in the pipeline. That's the reason why we guide to that range.

Katy Huberty
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Then just a follow-up on that last point, Luca. In the press release, you referenced the excitement about new products and services. Can you remind us of your guidance philosophy as it relates to product cycles? Do you embed assumptions around the contribution from new products? If so, do those tend to be more conservative than for products that already ship today?

Luca Maestri
CFO, Apple

Our guidance, Katy, is that we put out numbers that we believe at this point in time, with all the information that is available to us, we're going to land within. Okay, we take into account the fact that we've seen some purchase delays already during Q3, but we've seen in some sales trends in certain geographies that continues to happen. What you see this quarter is that our guidance range is $3 billion as opposed to $2 billion during the third quarter, just to take into account the fact that we got many moving pieces.

Katy Huberty
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you, Katy. Could we have the next question, please?

Operator

From Goldman Sachs, we'll hear from Bill Shope.

Bill Shope
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, great. Thank you. With the pockets of market weakness you noted for tablets, could you give us some more detail on how you're thinking about the category longer term, in particular in the context of your usage comments? How are you thinking about the competitive landscape now and how that may evolve? Then, I guess related to that, what do you think could be the next driver of renewed growth for the category?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Hi, Bill, it's Tim. If you sort of back up from this, the category that we created, which has just been a little over four years, we've now sold 225 million iPads which is, I think, probably a larger number than anyone would have predicted at the time, including ourselves, quite frankly. We still feel the category as a whole is in its early days, and that there's also significant innovation that can be brought to the iPad, and we plan on doing that. When I look at the top-level numbers, I get really excited when I see that more than 50% of the iPads that we're selling are going to someone who is a first-time tablet buyer. I get excited when I see that the retail share, according to NPD in the month of June, was 59% in units and over 70% in terms of dollars.

Of course, Luca had mentioned in his preamble that our education share is 85%. We also are in virtually all Fortune 500 companies. We're in 99% of them, to be exact, and 93% of the Global 500. However, when we dig into the business market deeper, though our market share in the U.S. in the commercial sector is good at 76%, this is according to IDC, the penetration in business is low. It's only 20. To put that in some kind of context, if you looked at penetration of notebooks in business, it would be over 60. We think that there's a substantial upside in business, and this was one of the thinkings behind the partnership with IBM that we announced last week. We think that the core thing that unleashes this is a better go-to-market, which IBM clearly brings to the table.

Even more importantly, apps that are written with mobile first in mind. Not all, but many of the enterprise apps that have been written for iPad have been essentially ports from a desktop arrangement and haven't taken full advantage of mobile. We're excited about bringing that to business, along with partnering with IBM, which we think is a first-class company, and seeing what that can do to sales and business, which I honestly believe the opportunity is huge. The market is still predicted in 2018, I think these are Gartner numbers, to be about $350 million in size. To put that in some context, I think the PC market right now is about 315.

I think our theory that has been there honestly since the first time that we shipped iPad, that the tablet market would eventually surpass the PC market, that theory is still intact. I just think we have to do some more things to get the business side of it moving in a faster trajectory. I think we're now onto something that can really do that. As I look at it and sort of back up from the 90-day clock kind of thing, I'm incredibly excited. I'm excited about the plans that we have on the product side and also on the go-to-market side and in particular, the IBM announcement. One other point I might add on this, because I think this is interesting. I don't think it came out in our commentary so far, is the market's very bifurcated on iPad.

In the BRIC countries, iPad did extremely well. The growth was very high. Like in China, it was in the 50s; in the Middle East, it was in the 60s. Luca may have mentioned those numbers. In the developed countries like the U.S., the market is clearly weaker there. It's interesting to note, however, that the U.S., as an example, we had a very strong Macintosh market in the U.S. There's probably a bit of higher ed kind of stuff beginning to play out, too, where higher ed is clearly still very much notebook oriented. K-12, on the other hand, we sell two and a half iPads for every Mac into K-12. We're clearly headed into that season now, and it typically starts in the graduation timeframe in fiscal Q3 for us. I think that's probably another thing that we're seeing

Bill Shope
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. One more question, if I could. You had obviously great performance in the BRIC countries, and you touched on China for a few categories. Can you talk about the overall demand environment you saw for China in the quarter? Obviously, there's some seasonal factors to consider, but how should we think about your performance versus your expectations and how you're thinking about it the rest of the calendar year?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yeah. China honestly was surprising to us. We thought it would be strong, but it well went past what we thought. We came in at 26% of revenue growth, including our retail. If you look at the units, the unit growth was really off the charts across the board. iPhone, 48% up. That compares to a market estimate of 24%, so growing at two times the market. iPad was up as well, as I'd mentioned before. The Mac was up 39%, and that's versus a market in China that's also contracting along with markets in most parts of the world. In China, it was projected to contract by 5%.

We're seeing some substantial strength there, the thing that's actually growing the most is the iTunes, Software and Services category, which has the App Store in it, et cetera, and that area is almost doubling year-over-year. It's very exciting what we're seeing there. We are still in the process of rolling out, along with our partner, China Mobile, the TD-LTE into more cities, so we're still in the early going on that. That just started in January, as you know. My understanding is that later this year, there will be a license for the other operators to begin shipping FDD LTE, which I think is another big opportunity in China.

Bill Shope
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, great. Thanks, Tim.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yep.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you, Bill. Could we have the next question, please?

Operator

Next, we'll go to Toni Sacconaghi with Sanford Bernstein.

Toni Sacconaghi
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Yes, thank you. I have one for Luca and one for Tim, please. Luca, I wanted to revisit the gross margin question. You talked about guidance for next quarter, the drivers of the sequential decline being a normal mix through the cycle and transition costs. Your guidance to the midpoint is down 190 basis points in gross margin. Last year in Q4, gross margins were up 10 basis points sequentially, in fiscal Q4. The product transition issues or cycle issues that you allude to seem essentially identical. I'd like to try and understand what might make this Q4 different, let's say, than last Q4.

Luca Maestri
CFO, Apple

Yes, I understand the question. Also, when you look at it in terms of absolute levels of gross margin, last year it was 37%, our range is above that level. There's obviously many things that affect us in different ways from one year to the other. Foreign exchange is a case where a lot of the emerging market currencies and the yen and the Australian dollar, the Canadian dollar, they've been weaker against the US dollar. That has an impact on margin. Also when you think about our product cycle, I think we don't get into the specifics, but you know that this is not exactly the same cycle as we've had a year ago.

Toni Sacconaghi
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Okay. Is it better? If we look back 2 years to the iPhone 5, your product margins were down 260 basis points sequentially. Is the reference there that we should be thinking in terms of changes that are more akin to what we saw 2 years ago rather than to this year?

Luca Maestri
CFO, Apple

I wouldn't necessarily draw that analogy. I think we need to start thinking from the fact that we had a very strong Q3. A lot of things came together extremely well. 37%-38% is a range that we think is very good, and that's where we are right now, and we still have several weeks in the quarter.

Toni Sacconaghi
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Okay, thank you. Tim, I wanted to get your input on the impact of trade-in programs for the iPhone, particularly in mature markets where they're most prevalent. As best I can tell, if I look at the last 4 quarters, not hyper-focused on 90 days, it looks like the iPhone's been about flat in unit terms in the Americas and up low single digits in Europe, and I think Europe includes India, which is obviously very fast-growing. Perhaps low single digits in Europe. If we look at those Western geographies, we've seen relatively flattish iPhone unit sales over the last year. I know you don't report it, but just sort of based on overall revenue reporting.

I'm wondering if you can comment on what you're seeing in terms of iPhone trade-in programs, this is 4 quarters, over a complete cycle, whether you think they're elongating or shrinking and what impact these very increasingly prevalent trade-in programs might be having on them, and what impact your pricing of older generation devices might be having on them.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yeah. The theory that you have, Toni, is not precisely correct. If I look at Europe, the operating segments of Europe for year-to-date for 2014 versus the same period last year, iPhone units were actually up 10%. Your more macro question, or what I understand to be your more macro question, do I think there's some sort of cannibalization going on of trade-in programs on new product sales?

What I think is happening in the aggregate, if you look across the world, is that trade-ins are actually hugely beneficial for our ecosystem because we have more people that are able to join the party when we have a trade-in, because in essence, it winds up being used by, probably the prime example, someone else within the family, or in the example that has become more common in the last year, someone trades it in and then that goes to either somebody else in that country that is very price sensitive, or somebody in a different country. I see all of this as good. In looking at how much of it cannibalizes, it is very hard to answer that question with any degree of preciseness.

My gut is that the cannibalization factor is low, because you wind up attracting people that are much more price sensitive than there. I think the great thing is our products command a much higher resale value than others do, so that leads to a larger trade-in. From my perspective, that means a larger ecosystem, more people that wind up getting on iPhone. As you know from following us for quite some time, if we get somebody to try an Apple product and then buy an Apple product, the likelihood that they begin buying other Apple products that may be in different categories or upgrading to one in that category in the future is very high. So net-net, I view it to be positive. It's very difficult to quantify with certainty.

Toni Sacconaghi
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Thank you.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you, Toni. Could we have the next question, please?

Operator

From UBS, we'll hear from Steve Milunovich.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Thank you.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Steve, we lost you.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Steve, are you there?

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Yes.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Okay, go ahead.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thanks. Tim, you mentioned that Japan was fairly flat due to regulations and taxes. Could you elaborate on that and what kind of comparisons perhaps you see going forward?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yeah, that was actually Luca, but I can comment on it. VAT was increased from 5% to 8% at close to the beginning of the quarter. I think it was actually April 1 or so. That was the first planned VAT increase. There are other, or at least one additional planned VAT increase in the future. This was a part of the overall tax reform package in Japan. Secondly, the carriers received some guidance from the regulators to essentially stop incenting people to transfer from another carrier at a higher amount than they were retaining their own customers. It appears that the combination of these two things dampened the whole market for smartphones in Japan. We haven't been able to get very detailed data on share, but my expectation is we're not going to see very much of a share change.

We're beginning to see some coming back of that market as we step into this quarter. Maybe not back to the level that it was previously, but you can begin to see the market growing again, which we view as very positive. In the past, when we've seen these type of things, tax changes, et cetera, there's usually a rush to buy before the tax increase, a pause that happens thereafter, and then the market eventually goes back to some kind of steady state that may not be exactly where it was, but it nears it. I think that's likely our guts are that that's what happens on the VAT side. The other piece is a little harder to conclude what will happen in terms of that guidance and how long that might be in place. I don't know that part.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Okay, that's very helpful. You talked about your 3 tiers of iPhones. I wonder if you would be willing to break out in any more detail the growth, and particularly kind of defend the 5c in the mid-tier. I know our surveys continue to find in the U.S. that it's falling a little bit as a percentage of business, but you seem to believe it's doing exactly what you expected it to do.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

I can tell you this, that if you look at the growth rates, we don't divide out each one, but if you look at year-over-year growth rates, this would be comparing the 5c to last year, it would be comparing the 4S, which was in the mid-tier. The growth in that sector was the highest growth during the quarter we just finished.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Of the 3 tiers?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Of the 3 tiers. We're extremely happy with how it performed last quarter.

Steve Milunovich
Analyst, UBS

Thank you.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yeah.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thanks, Steve. Could we have the next question, please?

Operator

Kulbinder Garcha with Credit Suisse.

Kulbinder Garcha
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks. I have just one question for Luca and one for Tim. For Luca, you mentioned that commodity pricing, I guess the environment was good for you. Is it your working assumption in your guidance that continues and can continue to be favorable and a tailwind for you? My question for Tim is that with the installment plans that are being introduced in the U.S., I imagine that given that it increases the flexibility for people to upgrade faster, would you expect that to happen for iPhone? Are you seeing any evidence of that as these contracts come up? We've had them out now for several months, and how do you see that impacting your business? Obviously the U.S. iPhone part of your business is still very significant, and it could be quite a big catalyst for your iPhone business going forward, I would imagine.

Would you be more tempted, and how would you see that playing out?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

I'll take both of these. This is Tim. On the component question, what we saw in the June quarter was that NAND, mobile DRAM, and LCD, the pricing on all of those declined, while PC DRAM increased despite the market for PCs contracting. In the September quarter, what is factored in our guidance is that LCDs and mobile DRAM continue to decline, that NAND pricing remains essentially flat from last quarter, and that PC DRAM has a slight price increase. In terms of other commodities that I didn't talk about, we've assumed that they would decline at historical rates. That's factored into the gross margin guidance that Luca gave you. In terms of the installment plans that you mentioned in the U.S. relative to iPhone, there's a lot of different models that are being tried in the U.S. and throughout the world.

Actually last quarter, as we estimated, and this is subject to an estimating error, but we're estimating that less than one out of four iPhones were sold on a traditional subsidy plan. That number is markedly different than it would have been two years ago. The installment plans that you're speaking about, which gives a customer the right to upgrade fast or faster than a usual two-year cycle, we think that plays to our customer base in a large way. That makes us incredibly bullish that customers on those plans would be very likely to upgrade when we announce a new product.

Kulbinder Garcha
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you. Very helpful.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you, Kulbinder Garcha. May we have the next question, please?

Operator

Next, we'll hear from Ben Reitzes with Barclays.

Ben Reitzes
Analyst, Barclays

Hey, thanks a lot. Tim, my question is for you. I guess during the quarter, you did two very big things, in our opinion. Obviously buying Beats, biggest acquisition in your history, and you also did this IBM deal, which obviously was this quarter, but since the last call, that was very interesting. Obviously, you really collaborating with another huge company to get further into the enterprise. I was just wondering, what are you seeing at Apple that's changing? These seem like big deals that change your direction a bit, something that you wouldn't have done in the past. Do you see a lot more partnerships and larger acquisitions on the horizon to grow your TAM in various markets?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Well, I think we have a lot of really great people, Ben, I think we have the capability. As I've said before, I think we have the capability to acquire a sizable company and manage it. Relative to IBM, I feel the same way. I think you can only do so many partnerships well, it's unusual that we enter into a partnership. In this particular case, I think arguably the companies are so complementary, I've gotten to know Ginni fairly well over the last couple of years, and I think we see the importance of the customer a lot of the same way and both feel that mobile and enterprise is just an enormous opportunity. We're not competing with each other. I think a partnership in that case is particularly great.

Would we do more of either of the things we did? We're always looking in the acquisition space, but we don't let our money burn a hole in our pocket, and we don't do things that aren't strategic. With Beats, we felt we were getting a incredible subscription service, a very rare set of talents that we think can do great things in Apple and access to a very fast-growing business in their headphone and earphone space. Culturally, we felt there was a match, and music has been deeply embedded in Apple's DNA for many, many years. It was a great marriage, and I think the partnership with IBM is a great marriage as well. If more like that presented themselves, I think we can manage more things. I think we have a very, very strong executive team and can do that.

It's not my goal to acquire a certain number of companies or spend a certain amount of money. We want to do things that help us make great products and are great for our customers and so forth. That's how-

Ben Reitzes
Analyst, Barclays

oh, sorry. Just really quick on the IBM. Does this say something about Apple doing more in big data and taking a cut maybe of some of the analytics opportunities as well?

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yeah. We didn't talk about how the business model is going to work. Generally speaking, I think that each of us have revenue streams in the enterprise, and each of us win from having those revenue streams. That's how I look at that. We win if we can drive that penetration number I spoke about from 20 to 60. That would be incredibly exciting here. The walls would shake. That's what I hope for.

Ben Reitzes
Analyst, Barclays

Thanks a lot.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

Yep.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

Thank you, Ben. Could we have the next question, please?

Operator

We'll hear from Ben Schachter with Macquarie.

Ben Schachter
Analyst, Macquarie

Thanks, Tim. I just wanted to talk about the app market for enterprise. Right now, I believe that app developers can sell to the enterprise directly, and therefore, that they can bypass the sharing revenue from these app sales with Apple. Is Apple going to allow that to continue? Can you also just more broadly discuss how Apple thinks about the opportunity to sell apps directly to the enterprise? Thanks.

Tim Cook
CEO, Apple

We have no plans to change the rules with enterprise. Some enterprises write proprietary apps that they do not want to offer to others. We obviously have a way for them to distribute those into their enterprise on just the employees that they want to. I'm not worried about changing that. We're all for taking friction out of the system and not adding it. Again, the big thing for us is getting the penetration number up and getting our product iPhones and iPads and Macs in more people's hands. We think there's a huge opportunity in enterprise to do that.

Nancy Paxton
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Apple

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's presentation. We do thank everyone for your participation.