Good morning and welcome to the Ameris Bank First Quarter Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nicole Stokes, Chief Financial Officer.
Please go ahead. Great. Thank you, Andrea, and thank you to all who have joined our call today. During the call, we will be referencing the press release and the financial highlights that are available on the Investor Relations section of our website atamerisbank.com. I'm joined today by Palmer Proctor, our CEO and John Edwards, our Chief Credit Officer.
Palmer will begin with some opening general comments and then I'm going to discuss the details of our financial results before we open it up for Q and A. Before we begin, I'll remind you that our comments may include forward looking statements. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and the actual results could vary materially. We list some of the factors that might cause results to differ in our press release and in our SEC filings, which are available on our website. We do not assume any obligation to update any forward looking statement as a result of new information, early developments or otherwise, except as required by law.
Also during the call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures in reference to the company's performance. You can see our reconciliation of these measures and GAAP financial measures in the appendix to our presentation. And with that, I'll turn it over to you, Palmer, for opening comments.
Thank you, Nicole, and good morning to everyone who's joined our call today. It's hard to believe that this time last year, we sat on this call with a lot of uncertainty about the pandemic and the economy. But one thing I was certain about at that time was the ability of our team to survive really whatever the pandemic threw at us. And here we sit a year later and I'm proud to say not only did we survive, but we actually thrived. We've said consistently that we are focused on tangible book value growth to grow shareholder value.
On the past year from March 2020 to March 2021, we increased our tangible book value by over 23.6%. We increased our TTE ratio by 4%, all assets grew over 17.5%, and we increased our allowance for loan losses by over 19%. In addition, we increased our diluted earnings per share 29% year over year from core and that's exclusive of provision noise, that's just pure core operating results. This type of success is due to the disciplined culture we've cultivated here at Ameris Bank. And having said that, in my preview, I'm really excited to share with you a few highlights for the quarter and an update on our outlook for the future.
For the quarter, we earned $115,700,000 or $1.66 per diluted share on an adjusted basis, which is up almost 200% from this time last year. This represents a 2.26 return on average assets and a 27.66% return on tangible equity. Our adjusted efficiency ratio improved from 59.87 percent reported Q1 last year to 54.62% this quarter. Due to improved economic conditions, we did reverse $28,600,000 of provision for loan loss expenses quarter and we realized a recovery of $10,600,000 of previous service asset impairment. Exclusive of these positive events, our adjusted diluted EPS still exceeded expectations at $1.34 per share for the quarter.
Nicole is going to get into more of the financial details in just a few minutes. On the balance sheet side of things, I was really pleased with our loan growth for the Q1. Our annualized net loan growth was just over 3% after and that's after the PPP and our indirect runoff headwinds. We still expect to see mid to upper single digit loan growth for the year as we look at our pipelines and opportunities within our markets. We continue to see strong deposit growth this quarter and our non interest bearing deposits are now over 38% of total deposits.
Already touched on capital from a year over year. Just for the quarter, we saw great growth in TCE and tangible book value. During the Q1, we grew tangible book value by $1.58 per share or 6.7%, which is very strong. Our TCE ratio increased to 8.62%, which is getting very close to our 9% goal. Our capital position remains strong and it's going to continue to support our future growth and opportunistic transactions.
And while we do have a share repurchase program in place, we didn't buy anything back in the Q1. We really don't anticipate executing on this in the near future, but certainly like having the option to repurchase our shares at the right opportunity presents itself. John Edwards, our Chief Credit Officer is with us today and he's certainly available to take any credit questions after our prepared remarks. But I did want to hit a few high points in terms of credit. Our annualized net charge off ratio decreased to 12 basis points of total loans compared to 70 basis points last quarter.
Our non performing assets as a percent of total assets improved to 40 basis points compared to 48 basis points last quarter. Loans that remain on deferral at the end of the quarter were approximately 2% of total loans and that's down from approximately 19% of total loans at the end of the Q2 of 2020. As you know, we have no exposure to oil and gas and we've included additional details on our hotel exposure in the loan slides and our investor presentation as well as the diversification that you'll see across all our loan types within the loan portfolio. And our allowance coverage ratio excluding unfunded commitments was 1.29 percent net of our PPP loans in the quarter. Just a quick update on COVID and PPP.
During the Q1, we opened all of our retail branches and lobbies and business and traffic, I might add, is really picking up, especially in the Southeast. Vaccines are available to everyone over the age of 16 and they're easy to get. Most of the businesses that we're seeing are back open and we're even seeing new restaurants, for instance, coming in and taking over locations that were shuttered last year in the pandemic. So things definitely seem incrementally moving back to business around the Southeast. And we're just really fortunate to have a strong presence in many of these top growth markets.
As far as PPP, we received payments and forgiveness of approximately $638,000,000 on PPP Round 1 loans, leaving the outstanding balance of the 2020 rounds at $463,000,000 And we have the new Round 3 outstanding balance at $329,000,000 as of March 31 with about another $42,000,000 funded so far this month in April. We anticipate opening the forgiveness portal for the new round 3 in the next few weeks. So far we've received over 5,600 applications. Our average loan size request has been around $73,000 with the second request averaging around $103,000 and new participants are first time request averaging around $21,000 So this is a much smaller average balance than we saw in round 1, but has helped increase the overall return. And that's a great lead in into the last thing I wanted to touch on and that's ESG.
During the PPP process, Ameris had a specific outreach to our certain underserved communities and it was a great success. And that's just one example of how we've been working diligently on our ESG initiatives. In March of 2020, we established our 1st Chief Governance Officer role and then shortly thereafter announced our 1st Diversity Officer, Carlene Gordon. We have a management level ESG committee and that meets regularly and we report to the Board and we're actually preparing our 1st corporate social responsibility report or CSRs at Cuyahoga. And we hope to have that out in public in the near end of the second quarter, so we can share that with all our investors to show them everything we're doing on that front.
But I'll stop there now and turn it over to Nicole to discuss our financial results.
Great. Thank you, Palmer. As you stated for the Q1, we earned a record $125,000,000 or $1.79 per diluted share. We reversed $28,600,000 of provision for credit loss expense during the quarter due to those improving economic conditions. On an adjusted basis, we earned $115,700,000 or $1.66 per diluted share when you exclude the recovery on the servicing asset impairment, the gain on BOLI and also the gain on sale of premise.
So because there's been so much volatility in the provision, I thought I'd mention some pre tax pre provision adjusted numbers where we earned $122,600,000 for the quarter compared to $89,400,000 Q1 of last year, again kind of taking out that provision noise. That represents a 37% increase year over year from true core operating performance. And that's a direct result of the culture of discipline and focus that we've been talking about since the Fidelity acquisition. Our adjusted return on assets in the Q1 was 2.26, which was an increase from the 2.04 reported last quarter and 87 basis points reported this time last year. Our adjusted return on tangible common equity was 27.66% compared to $25.04 last quarter and $10.98 Q1 last year.
Both increases in these ratios are due to the reverse provision for credit loss expense described above. However, excluding the reversal of provision and the MSR recovery, our core ROA was still very robust at a 1.83% for the quarter. As Palmer mentioned, tangible book value we remain focused on that increased by $1.58 or 6.7 percent for the quarter from $23.69 to $25.27 For the year over the year, we increased that by $4.83 or 23.6 percent from the 2,044 that it was this time last year. In addition, our tangible common equity ratio increased 15 basis points to 8.62 from 8.47 at the end of the year. The PPP loans and approximately $2,000,000,000 of excess liquidity in our balance sheet negatively impacted this ratio by 129 basis points.
So excluding the PPP loans and the excess cash from total assets, our TCE ratio would have been approximately 9.9 at quarter end, which is well above our stated target of 9%. Having said that, you can see that we continue to be well capitalized and we feel comfortable with our capital and our dividend levels. Moving on to margin. As expected, our net interest margin declined by 7 basis points from 3.64% to 3.57% during the quarter. Our yield on earning assets declined by 13 basis points, while our total funding cost decreased 6 basis points, but our total interest bearing deposit cost decreased 9 basis points.
The approximate $2,000,000,000 of excess liquidity in our balance sheet negatively affected our margin by 24 basis points. Those 24 basis points were offset by the increase in yield on loans, both held for sale and investment, including PPP accretion for that net decline of 13 basis points that I previously mentioned. We continue to stay focused on our deposit costs, but the real driver to an improving margin going forward is putting that excess liquidity to work, which we anticipate occurring over the next three quarters. We've already mentioned that we reversed the $28,600,000 of provision expense for the quarter due to improvement in the economy, particularly our economic forecast related to unemployment, GDP and the CRE Index. We continue to carry qualitative factors on various segments of our portfolio to include commercial real estate, mortgage and hotels.
Our ending allowance for loan loss was $178,600,000 compared to $199,400,000 at the end of the year and $149,500,000 at the end of the Q1 last year when the pandemic had just begun. Concluding the unfunded commitment reserve and allowance for other credit losses, our total allowance for credit losses was $200,200,000 at quarter end compared to $233,100,000 at the end of the year at $167,300,000 at March of last year. Non interest income remained strong this quarter due to the continued elevated production in the mortgage division. Kind of taking out the MSR noise of an impairment prior quarters and the recovery this quarter and then the non recurring gain on BOLI that's also a non interest income. If you take out all that noise, non interest income increased 39% from Q1 last year to Q1 this year.
Mortgage production was right at $2,600,000,000 for the quarter compared to $2,800,000,000 last quarter and the gain on sale decreased to $3.95 compared to $4.34 last quarter. The open pipeline at the end of the quarter was 16% higher than at the end of the year finishing at $2,300,000,000 compared to an even $2,000,000,000 at year end. While we do see production slowing later in the year, to kind of quote Palmer from last quarter, we really don't foresee a cliff dive there. But we do continue to monitor it. Moving on to expenses.
Total non interest expense continued to decline this quarter from $151,000,000 last quarter to $148,800,000 almost $149,000,000 this quarter. Last quarter, I guided that we would continue to prudently examine non interest expense and anticipated minimal increases in the core bank. So I was really pleased with our efforts here this quarter and our determination to find ways to pay for new initiatives. As a result, expenses in the banking division declined $2,300,000 during the quarter and our efficiency ratio in that division improved by over 200 basis points. We continue to watch efficiency ratio by division very, very closely.
Overall for the company, our adjusted efficiency ratio increased this quarter to 54.62 from the 52.67 last quarter, but declined from the 59.87% reported this time last year. I previously guided for the efficiency ratio to stabilize in the 53% to 55% range, because we really don't anticipate the previous level of mortgage revenue and efficiency to be sustainable. So we came in right in line with that guidance. However, we do continue to monitor the variable costs in the mortgage division and we anticipate those reducing down as production declines in the second half of the year. On the balance sheet side, we ended the quarter with assets of $21,400,000,000 compared to $20,400,000,000 at year end.
We were pleased with our organic loan growth of $118,900,000 or 3.3 percent annualized for the quarter. As you can see on slide 14 in our slide deck, we had about $294,000,000 of headwinds against significant growth in CRE, residential and our new C and I division. We believe the decline in C and D and warehouse lines could be cyclical and we could see further growth over the remainder of the year, although we are watching those warehouse lines to determine if that's truly cyclical or if that's the beginning of a trend. We already discussed the excess liquidity that you can see in the other earning assets on the balance sheet due to the tremendous deposit growth this quarter. We grew deposits $918,000,000 or 22% annualized and over 71% of that deposit growth was in non interest bearing deposits.
While we did have the expected seasonal run off, we also had approximately $900,000,000 in extra PPP funds and stimulus money come in. So now the real question is how fast can we put that liquidity to work. We continue to anticipate net loan growth, net of PPP activity for the year in the mid single digits, kind of that 5% to 7% range, which is about $1,000,000,000 of growth. So that $2,000,000,000 of excess liquidity, we've got $1,000,000,000 going into loans and that leaves about $1,000,000,000 of excess cash to prepare for any deposit runoff that we might see from that PPP funds being deployed or the stimulus money being used and also as we begin to buy investments as rates become more appealing. So to wrap up, we're excited about the remainder of 2021.
We're in some of the best markets in the Southeast. Life is getting back to normal and businesses are starting to grow. We're protecting our margin as much as possible and we're ready to utilize this excess liquidity to fund loan growth. Mortgage and fee income remains strong and expense control is as always part of our company DNA. I appreciate everyone's time today.
And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Andrea to open up the Q and A session. Thank you, Andrea. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question will come from Casey Whitman of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Good morning, Casey. Good morning. I guess I'd start Nicole, thanks for that loan growth guide you just gave. With regards to that, I think you guys may have sold off some more of the consumer loans this quarter.
Can you tell us how much that was? And should we expect you to maybe continue to sell some of that off, I guess, on top of the auto runoff? And I'm assuming that that is part of the 5% to 7% growth expectation you just gave?
Correct. It is included in that. So we the only portfolio that we sold this quarter, we had already moved to held for sale in the Q4 of last year. It did not come out of the held for sale or I'm sorry, out of the held for investment this quarter. And we do not anticipate any other loan sales.
So that was the same loan sale that we talked about last quarter transferring into held for sale and then it went out of held for sale this quarter.
Okay, got it. And so it's really just the indirect auto run off still happening to us?
That's right. And that has slowed. Our indirect run off, if you think back closer to July of 2019 when we first acquired Fidelity, That was running off about $139,000,000 to $140,000,000 a quarter. That has slowed to about $100,000,000 a quarter and our portfolio there is down to less than $500,000,000 So we do have that headwind slowing and we are almost eventually going to get down to kind of just that little tailwind of it.
Okay, got it. Makes sense. And then maybe just kind of a housekeeping question on PPP for you guys. The new $350,000,000 or so in 2021 originations in the latest round, do you have the associated fees with the new originations?
Sure. So on the PPP round 3, we have $17,000,000 of deferred fees, dollars 17,400,000 of deferred fees on round what we're going to call round 3. And then on round 12, which is both of the 2020 round, some people call it 1A and 1B, we have about $8,500,000 left there. So total deferred fees are just about $25,000,000 to $26,000,000 Got it. Thank you, guys.
Sure. Thank you.
The next question comes from Brady Gailey of KBW. Please go ahead.
Hey, thank you. Good morning, guys.
Good morning.
I mean, mortgage still remains very robust for you all, which is great to see. I keep thinking it's got to slow down at some point, but yes, it still feels like it's pretty robust. Any color just on what you're seeing within mortgage today and any sort of idea of when you think mortgage could start to normalize lower?
This is Palmer. I will tell you that as we've said all along and Nicole mentioned in her comment, the way our mortgage shop is set up, there was never going to be a cliff dive, which I think based on a lot of the Mortgage Bankers Association numbers you would expect that we didn't see that and nor did the industry see that. I can tell you that Q2 in terms of our pipeline now, we've had a strong April and things look positive there. The second half of the year is hard, but I think mortgage will continue to deliver into the second half. But one of the most encouraged with as of recent, if you look at our current production, 74% now of our production was purchase business, which is really encouraging.
We had so much refi business, all of us had as an industry. So it's nice to see that purchase coming. The demand for housing and especially in all the growth markets we're in, the housing sector will continue to grow through the remainder of the year, albeit at the temperate as we move the 2021.
All right. That's helpful. Then next, I just wanted to ask about the continued opportunity to take market share. We saw state sell to Cadence, now Cadence is sold to Bancorp South. You even saw it's much smaller deal, but South Progressive sold to Colony last night.
I mean, there just continues to be a lot of dislocation, especially in the Atlanta market. Can you just talk about the opportunity to continue to hire way and steal market share versus the opportunity to do something more transformational via some sort of M and A transaction?
Yes. And I
think when people think of transformational, they think of immediately a larger transaction. I think a transformational is something that takes place over time. And I think that's more sustainable transformation. And that's kind of how we look at things. So 1st and foremost, we focus on our organic growth internally and our ability to generate that growth, which I think we have delivered to the market.
And I think what happens is when you have disruption like we're seeing throughout the market, that's really music to our ears in terms of opportunity. And we now have people positioned in place. I couldn't be more excited about the potential we have for the commercial growth too, which we have been talking about and made some significant investment in. And that's beginning to deliver for us. And I think we'll see that accelerate as we get into the second half of the year, primarily due to 2 things.
Number 1 is the disruption that you mentioned. And then number 2 is the improvement economy. And you put those things together across our footprint and it's pretty meaningful. And then on top of that, if you layer in opportunities, M and A opportunities, I think that can further supplement our efforts there. But disruption is good for us, primarily because we're positioned well to take advantage of it and we'll continue to do that and we'll do that in the form of organic growth and then certainly explore M and A opportunities ourselves.
All right. And then finally for me, maybe just for Nicole, you mentioned that you have $2,000,000,000 of excess liquidity, half of that will hopefully go into the loan book. That leaves you another $1,000,000,000 to maybe put in the bond book. Is I know bond rates are up some, but they're still pretty low. What are your thoughts on kind of when you pull the trigger to deploy that cash into the bond book?
Is it now or do you wait for rates to go up a little more?
So Brady, we are probably in we would like to wait a little bit longer. We would like rates to go up a little bit more. And here's my logic there. And while we do have $1,000,000,000 again the $2,000,000,000 minus the $1,000,000,000 of loan growth and we've got about $1,000,000,000 left of what we're going to do with that. We do anticipate some deposit runoff as things even start to get back to normal and people start using that money.
So we do anticipate some of that and we do are starting to look at some purchases and some other investments. The piece that we're holding back on is right now with the yields that you can get at that duration, when rates do go up, we would be sitting we feel like we would be sitting in an unrealized loss position on those purchases. And that's going to come through OCI and that's going to be a negative to tangible book value eventually. And so for the little incremental that we could get today on a bond purchase versus that longer term outlook on the effect that it could have on tangible book, we've said repeatedly that we're focused on tangible book value growth. So I don't want to make a short term decision today for a very small increase in my margin.
If there's other things that we can do, we've continued to grow net interest income NII dollars. So we feel like as well with the mortgage portfolio as we continue to have that and have that margin held for sale, you'll see that bubbled up a little bit more. This quarter, we did that on purpose to kind of let that grow a little bit because we can get a much better yield there than what we could get in the bond portfolio. So as rates come down and we start maybe the mortgage loans held for sale come down at that same time rates are going up. So short answer is that we probably need another 25 to 50 basis points from what we could get today would be our preferred, but we may start buying a little bit ahead of that.
Great. Thanks for the color guys.
Thank you.
The next question comes from Jennifer Demba of Truist. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning.
Good morning.
Could you give us an update on your standard lending efforts, Palmer, and how that's going versus your internal budget? And what opportunities do you see in the future if there are more hiring opportunities? Or are you happy with the team you have now?
Jennifer, I'm sorry I missed the first part of your question. It was kind of muffled. Can you repeat it for me, please?
Sure. I'm sorry. Could you give us an update on your C and I lending progress to date and how that has panned out versus plan and if you plan on making any more hires in that area? Thanks.
Sure. Thank you. No, when you look at C and I, as I mentioned, that's probably where I'm really encouraged. Our pipeline right now is at an all time high as we sit here today. And I know loan growth is key to everybody's future success going forward.
And I'm pleased to say that we are at an all time high in our pipeline. We are certainly seeing a lot of activity in several different sectors. In terms of hiring, we did hire another 3 C and I lenders this quarter. And those continue to be opportunistic for us throughout the footprint. We've got a couple of opportunities in Atlanta now.
And then we also have another hire down in the Jacksonville market and 2 in the Carolina this past quarter. So we really feel good about that and the momentum that we're building there. And I think we'll start seeing a lot more of that. Now keep in mind too, as we've touched on, that's a slower growth model with the C and I initiative, but it's more meaningful in terms of relationships versus transactions. And at the same time, we certainly have a robust pipeline in the CRE initiatives.
So we're just fortunate that we're seeing all this activity and it's picking up considerably throughout the Southeast and we're going to take advantage of that.
Okay. Thanks a lot.
You bet.
The next question comes from Brody Preston of Stephens. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone.
Good morning, Brody.
Nicole, just a quick question. Do you have the average PPP loan balances by any chance?
I do. Our average balances for round 12 for the Q1 was $618,600,000 And when I say 1 and 2 that's kind of the 2020 1A, 1B. And then PPP round 3 was $146,000,000 average. So our total average was $765,000,000
Okay. All right. Great.
Thanks a lot.
And then I think there's yes.
So I wanted to ask then, so when I back that out, right, you get to like call it like a 435 core loan yield when you back out PPP. And so I wanted to ask just the new production yields, I think have come down about 20 basis points or so since the Q3 of last year and now about 380 at least from the Banking division. And so I wanted to ask like where do you see that core loan yield kind of trending as we head forward for the rest of the year, just given that dynamic?
Sure. So there's a couple of things there. We do our loan production yield, our new production did kind of come down this quarter. But a lot of that when you think about it is because of the pipeline. And so the pipeline that was already there funded in the Q1.
So what we're seeing kind of coming in the pipeline now is more stable and maybe even a little bump up. Now we're starting to see some competitive pressure on those yields coming in. We've had a couple of people in our markets, some other players that have kind of been out and they're starting to come back in. So we're starting to see some competitive pressure that's offsetting where we really think some of the yields would have or those production yields would have gone up. So kind of having those stabilized going forward.
So on the loan portfolio, just straight loan portfolio taking out kind of the PPP, could anticipate potentially 4 basis points. I shouldn't be that exact. I should say 3 to 5 basis points of kind of compression from the loan portfolio. But we also feel like we have 2 to 4 basis points of additional deposit cost savings. So those almost offset.
So I guess ex PPP, you're looking for the core margin to be flat to down slightly from here?
That's right. Ex PPP, probably 1 more quarter at least of some compression. With PPP, we're saying kind of that same 5 to 7 basis points, kind of mid- to high single digit. And I'll say there's 2 wildcards there really, Brody. 1 is that use of excess liquidity, and how quickly loan growth comes in, in the second quarter.
And then the other wildcard is PPP and how quickly that pays off.
Got it. Thank you for that. And then just on the growth that you have this quarter, commercial growth when you kind of add up the commercial categories, excellent business lines was solid, but the bulk of that was obviously carried by CRE. And when I sort of look at the breakdown of office, it's retail and particularly office and specifically grew by about 20% in the linked quarter. And so I just wanted to ask where is this growth sort of coming from, from a geographic perspective?
And sort of what gives you comfort originating these loans just given all the work from home peers? And then if you could provide some detail as to what the office exposure looks like? Is it like single tenant lawyers or is it bigger office building? Just give us a sense there.
Okay. That's fine. So the geographic dispersion is still very good. And if you think through some of the hires that we have been able to bring in over the last year, it had been in Tampa and Jacksonville and Charlotte and have been around. And so we've been able to get business and new business in those marketplaces.
So it's been a pretty well diverse market. So the types of loans, there have been from really MOB medical office buildings to larger offices really. But they've been we really have tried to stick to essential businesses and suburban mid rise is occasionally an okay product, but if we can stick to a long term lease with a group of businesses that have been there for quite a while and have an essential function in that market, then we feel better about it and that's kind of how we try to stick to the underwriting on
those. Okay, great. And then could you provide some thoughts around the growth outlook for some of your business line portfolios, particularly premium finance?
Yes. I think premium finance, what you'll find, it's been very consistent. I think it will continue to be a steady provider for us. The so that asset class we feel very comfortable with in terms of our ability to continue to generate sustainable revenue there. The one that oftentimes won't reflect a lot of growth, but reflects a lot of productivity is the residential construction lending group.
And because as you well know, inventories being so low and how quickly things are turning, there's been tremendous income generated out of that division, but the growth won't be there. And that's a sign of just overly healthy market right now, housing market. So we continue to see that as a real plus. Nicole mentioned the flexibility we've got with the mortgage portfolio and the held for sale and our ability to utilize that to our advantage. The C and I growth will continue.
That's as I mentioned, that's where a lot of our focus is. It does take longer, but we're encouraged by what we're seeing there. And a lot of that's due to some of the new hires that we brought on board over the last 12 months. And then and we're fortunate to be in all of our markets, growth markets for the most part. So the CRE that John touched on will still be a very viable product for us as well.
SBA is one that we want to ramp up. I think there are going to be some additional very meaningful programs coming out of SBA and we want to make sure we get our fair share of that. We've not had the growth there that I would like to have seen, but I think you'll see a continued focus on that, which ought to be meaningful as well as we go forward in terms of generating some good non interest income. I think that pretty much breaks down all of our asset classes there for you.
Yes. Thank you for that. Nicole, what was the dollar amount of the seasonal increases for expenses for both the core bank and the business lines? And does that come out of the run rate in the Q2?
Sure. So what we had in the mortgage, we had about $1,300,000 of payroll taxes that hit in the Q1 that will taper off as the year goes by. And then in the core bank, we had about $1,800,000 to $2,000,000 of those payroll taxes.
Okay, great. And then I just have one last one. And I appreciate you taking all my questions. Palmer, just wanted to follow-up on the M and A. So the bigger deals that we've seen, the buyers have lagged and I think the MOE types with higher execution risk.
So I just wanted to ask you, has your thoughts changed as you've seen all these deals kind of hit the tape? Or are you thinking along the same lines kind of that smaller $2,500,000,000 $3,000,000 $4,000,000,000 kind of deal bolt on that would maybe enhance Ameris a little bit? And if you could just provide some thoughts on the type of bank that you'd be looking to acquire in the current environment, I'd appreciate it.
Sure. And I think we've been pretty consistent on this. We've kind of said our sweet spot is really between $3,000,000,000 $10,000,000,000 I would tell you having said that regardless of whether it's a $10,000,000,000 bank or $3,000,000,000 whole bank, we're not going to do anything that would take on excess execution risk nor anything that wouldn't be accretive to our organization. We are very strategic in the way we look at M and A. And so as I've said before, it helps us garner additional market share in some meaningful markets where we need it or if it provides and helps further a line of business that we're interested in growing.
Those are certainly some opportunities for us for banks that are within that space. There are probably some other non bank opportunities that may be out there as well. So are going to remain consistent in our approach there in terms of making sure whatever we do is strategic and that it fits into our overall plan. And I do think there will be some meaningful opportunities out there, but it's going to have to be the right one. It's going to need to be a cultural fit and it's going to need to be able to further our strategic initiatives.
Got it. Thank you very much for taking all my questions, Ben. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you, Rohde. The next question comes from David Feaster of Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everybody.
Hey, good morning, David.
I just wanted to start on loan production and kind of what you're seeing there. Obviously, it's a bit slower than we had in the Q4, still trending below pre pandemic levels, but it's extremely encouraging to hear about the pipeline, especially the C and I pipeline. I'm just curious how much of the slower production was a distraction from PPP? And just whether you'd expect that to reaccelerate back north of 4th quarter levels or even closer to pre pandemic levels, kind of north of $900,000,000
Well, I think the opportunity for all banks, Hector, right now, 1st quarter is typically, it's seasonally a slower quarter to begin with. So we need to be mindful of that. And then second, you parlay on top of that, the whole issue with the pandemic and PPP. I would like to say that we were 100% distracted by PPP. That is not the case.
We had several people that were obviously wearing 2 hats and helping out with PPP in addition to their day jobs and everybody pitched in to get that done and it was a meaningful effort and I commend the industry for stepping up and making it all happen. With that being said, what we've been able to do is kind of take advantage of this pandemic time to bring in new talent and also to build up the commercial opportunity. So we've been out actively calling. I think when a lot of people have been focused more inwardly, we were out calling. And I think what we're starting to see is those pipelines that have been built, that doesn't happen overnight.
It takes, as you well know, 60 to 90 days to kind of get things going. And we're now in that 60 to 90 day period. So that's the benefit and the lifts we're seeing in the pipeline. And then you compound that with what we all hope is going to be an improving economy between now and the end of the year. I think you'll see accelerated growth as we get into the second half of twenty twenty one.
We'll probably preempt that a little bit in the second quarter just given our current pipeline and we're probably about a quarter ahead of most. But I think for everybody second half of the year looks pretty opportunistic for all of us.
Okay. That's great. And I guess just where are we at kind of in the migration of the new PPP clients that you just where we at in bringing those over? And then just how much of your pipeline do you think is this growth is from either new clients coming over versus improved sentiment and improved demand and existing clients being ready to invest?
Well, like most banks, we did a lot of outreach that touched on with this round 3, but the majority of most banks production, ours included, that 80% of it remains with existing customers. Ours included, that 80% of it remains with existing customers. The other 20% was new customers. And some of them meaningful customers, they're all meaningful, any customer is. But I think in terms of moving the needle, I have not witnessed the huge lift that I've heard others talk about.
I don't know if I've seen it and others either in terms of a huge in migration of new customers as a result of PPP. We certainly have garnered new customers and value those customers, but it has not been I wouldn't hang our hat on the growth coming from that 20%. So what we're doing is taking care of the PPP customers, embracing the new ones that came in, but more importantly going out and hunting for new customers. And I think that's the opportunity exists for our bank right now with all the disruption in our markets. So I would tell you that we remain pretty much focused in the way we've always been in terms of our outreach of maintaining and retaining existing customers, but more importantly going out and trying to identify new opportunities.
Okay.
That's great. And then
just curious, I wanted
to touch on asset quality. And just maybe if you could give us some detail on what drove that criticized balances? And then just how you think about the reserve going forward? It sounds like there's still a decent amount of qualitative factors there. I guess, would you expect to kind of maintain the reserve ratio here, exclusively PPP?
Or do you see opportunity for maybe some additional reserve releases or you can just grow it into the reserve?
Let me take that in reverse. So the reserve being built off of the primarily on the forecast models, as those continue to improve and businesses get back to work, I think we are we certainly are under pressure for release. We really don't want to do that. And so we are looking at opportunities that are within the CECL framework to hold on to the reserves. But forecast models generally kind of drive today on a lot of that.
The first part of the tell me again the first part of the question.
Just asset quality and trends you're seeing and then what drove the increase in criticized?
Yes. Thank you. So the criticized increase in the Q1 was really just 2 relationships, both of which were really single loans. 1 was an ALF, 1 was a hotel and they were both still impacted by COVID restrictions, slow lease up. And so it was not anything that was systemic by any stretch.
It was just kind of extraordinary to those 2 properties. And I will say as we look out, most all of the deferrals we did on hotels were through the middle of this year, which is coming up on us very quickly. So I think we've got as we approach that and we kind of finalize what these customers are going to be able to do going forward and whether or not they've reached sort of that breakeven or back to profitability, we'll see some opportunities I believe for improvement in the watch list just because we had so many hotels that comprise the watch list and we're really at that point where we did the kind of the final deferrals on those. So we'll be watching that very, very closely this next quarter. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you.
The next question comes from Christopher Marinac of FIG Partners. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks. Good morning. Just wanted to follow-up on the mortgage gain on sale this quarter. And going forward, is some of the expense initiatives in the mortgage business and efficiencies you're building into that, does that help the gain on sale fall less than it otherwise would?
No, not necessarily. But that's a great question as you think through that. So the thing is with mortgage, so our gain on sale did decline from 4.34 to 3.95, so about a 39 basis point decline. I don't know that that I don't anticipate another 39 basis point decline by any means. But one thing that I did want to add on to that you touched on there was the expense side.
And our production was actually very stable. And so even though the production was stable and the units were stable, you saw kind of those expenses remain pretty stable, even absorbing the cyclical, kind of 1st quarter payroll taxes. But that's really based on production. And so when the gain on sale went down, our revenue went down, but our expenses kind of stayed the same. So seeing that gain on sale move back up, will certainly help that and then or stabilize or move up will help that.
But then also as production comes down, we've worked really hard in the mortgage group. They're very cognizant of their variable costs, which are about 75% to 80% of total cost. So as that production as the production starts following down as the production starts going down, that's when you'll see the shift in costs.
And Chris, if you look at last year's production, about 84% of last year's production is variable expense. So the key is, as Nicole touched on, is being able to move very quickly with that. And we've got a pretty disciplined culture across the board and especially in mortgage. So as we see that taper and back, the expenses will adjust accordingly. Because it is people always tell us how scalable that business is, but the reality of it is, is how quickly can you move and should you move and be prudent and not be hasty in what you're doing.
So, I think we've got a good handle on that. And as we see the production pull back, you'll see the expenses move accordingly.
Sounds good. I appreciate the color on that. And then just a follow-up on the sort of outreach from new customers that you talked about Palmer. To what extent are you seeing the account openings that you want in Wealth Management and New Commercial Business? It sounds like it is moving in the right direction.
Just want to get
a little more background there. It is. There's a void in our market with that type of wealth initiative. And I see that as a big opportunity for our bank as we go forward. In my opinion, it can't grow fast enough because I look at the client base that we've grown, our grads have done a wonderful job of doing that.
We're starting to see the benefits of it in terms of the earnings and the contribution, but you know the contribution it can make. And so we've got to double down on our efforts there in terms of growing those assets under management. And right now, I think the market due to all the disruption and quite frankly due to a lot of the scarcity of these types of wealth groups within banks, there are a lot of RIAs outside of banks and those may present opportunities for banks as we go forward. But that's certainly an area for us that creates quite an annuity. And if you can grow it and grow it in a meaningful way and we've done a good job of cross selling existing customers and at the same time bringing in some meaningful business over the last 90 days that I think will continue to grow that area.
But that is certainly an area of focus for us as we go forward and I'd like to see more growth out of it.
Great. Thanks again.
Okay. Thank you.
The next question is a follow-up from Brody Petitmans. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, sorry to hop back on. I'm just getting question inbounds from some folks. And so I wanted to ask just on the if you back out the MSR write up on mortgage each quarter, it was actually lower this quarter. And I wanted to ask, is that due to lower hedge income on the locked pipeline?
When you say it is lower, do you mean revenues? Yes. Yes. No, it's actually that gain on sale dropping, those 39 basis points because our production was fairly stable. Production last quarter was, I think, dollars 2,800,000,000 and production this quarter was almost $2,650,000,000 So production was fairly stable, but it was at 39 basis points of gain on sale.
Gain on sale is what kind of drove that net revenue down.
Okay. And then the last one is just the PPNR of the banking division when you look at the segments that you break out. Since the LION deal sort of went through, I think you guys have been bouncing around in the mid-40s up $60,000,000 and now we're back down to $47,000,000 or so for the core PPNR of the banking division. And so I wanted to ask just what are going to be some of the levers that you pull to move that PPNR for the banking division higher just because it's going to become more important as mortgage kind of normalizes in the back half of the year and into 2022?
Absolutely. So that's really where you see some of the initiatives that we've talked about with the occupancy expense as far as leases. We've got some of it there. We've also got some efficiency, just movement going with really evaluating everything that we do and how we do things. After you do a big acquisition like a Fidelity and you kind of have your cost saves built out and you get through conversion and you go through those and then you really start looking at everything.
One other aspect in that banking division is our treasury. We've done a really good job. We've got some efficiencies going on in treasury as well as some initiatives there to increase in treasury income. So that has helped as well. And then we've got a huge technology benefit.
When we look at our technology costs, about 25% of that is really forward future, what we think about has future benefit as far as integration, automation or delivery platform. And then another 20% roughly of our IT, when I say IT, I include kind of our IT and our PMO, project management office, about another 20% of that is related to efficiency projects. And so this is really the kind of all of that coming to fruition and gaining that synergy that we have through those areas.
Got it. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
Sure.
This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Palmer Proctor for any closing remarks.
Great. Thank you, Andrea. Once again, I want to thank everybody for listening in on our Q1 2021 earnings results. I did want to close just by emphasizing how energized we are over here at Ameris about our future. We are clearly in some of the best markets in the Southeast and more importantly, we have the right bankers in market to take advantage and capture some additional market share where we are.
And so we position ourselves well for the future, remain focused on producing top quartile results and strong asset quality and continuing to focus on efficiencies and garnering a lot of those through our technology initiatives. We're really looking forward to the rest of 2021 and beyond. And I want to thank you again for listening in today. Thank you.
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