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Earnings Call: Q2 2014

Aug 21, 2013

Speaker 1

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Judy Meehan, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Thank you, Ms. Meehan. You may now begin.

Speaker 2

Good morning, everyone. Joining me today for our prepared remarks are Robert Hanson, Chief Executive Officer and Mary Bolin, Chief Financial and Administrative Officer. Before we begin today's call, I need to remind you that during this conference call, we will make certain forward looking statements. These statements are based upon information that represents the company's current expectations or beliefs. The results actually realized may differ materially from those expectations based on risk factors included in our quarterly and annual reports filed with the SEC.

We have posted a Q2 financial supplement on our website, which Mary will refer to. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Robert for opening remarks.

Speaker 3

Good morning. Needless to say, we're not at all happy with our 2nd quarter performance, which was a result of 2 factors. 1st, a disappointing women's assortment, primarily within our core and core fashion businesses, where we just didn't execute well. And second, a choppy and unpredictable external environment, including highly promotional retail competition, which has continued into the Q3. Store traffic in North America was uneven and below expectations with further deceleration in July.

With this as the backdrop combined with weak execution in women's deeper and broader promotions led to an increase in markdowns which pressured 2nd quarter earnings. Comparable sales declined 7%, net revenue fell 2% and EPS of $0.10 declined 52% from last year. Although most areas of our North American business were below our expectations, AEO's women's business had the biggest miss to plan, comping down 9% in the quarter. With the exception of dresses, fashion styles performed the best overall, particularly within pants and tops. We saw weakness primarily in core and core fashion styles.

While the assortment architecture was on strategy, as a team, we were overly focused on fashion and didn't pay enough attention to our foundational key items. We didn't deliver the trend relevancy, innovation and value that our customers expect from us. We've reassorted late Q3 and all of Q4 to ensure we have newness across the store, great style and outstanding value, while continuing to deliver compelling fashion. We've also revised our inventory plans and AUR expectations for the Q4 to reflect the environment and stronger value for our customers. The environment has been extremely challenging, with weak traffic and unprecedented price promotions.

We're disappointed that our marketing efforts haven't done more to mitigate these macro pressures. Our marketing and promotional execution needs to improve to build traffic back to our stores and gain new customers. We are strengthening our social media outreach and CRM. Moving forward, we've adjusted our efforts to ensure that creative branding, product innovation and clear value are embedded within our promotional plans and that we maintain a disciplined approach to planning, testing and executing our playbook. Although the business was disappointing overall, there were some bright spots and encouraging signs that our strategic initiatives are broadly on track.

Our men's business, while comping down 4%, delivered results closer to our initial plans. We felt good about the overall execution in men's, where the team delivered depth in foundational key items combined with relevant new styles. Men's pants, woven tops, polos and graphics performed best with seasonal categories underperforming expectations. Aerie's performance was solid, delivering an improvement to the bottom line and remaining on track to deliver double digit EPS this year. We've appropriately narrowed and focused the assortments rooted in intimates and with improved inventory principles and smarter distribution strategies have yielded an improvement to gross margin return on investment.

Factory stores performed relatively well considering the tough environment, comping slightly down, but with total revenue growth of 29%. We opened 18 new factory locations in the quarter, where we continue to see strong response. Our made for factory products, which is now 40% of the assortment and tracking to over 50% by holiday is being well received and delivering high margins. Our online business increased 11%. While not what we had hoped for, conversion increased on a decline in traffic and mobile continued to gain traction with volume more than doubling.

Our 3 new stores in Mexico continue to exceed our expectations and international license revenues increased 30% in the quarter compared to last year. With external challenges expected to continue, we're highly focused on the controllables, improving our overall execution and strengthening our assortments and marketing, while maintaining tight inventory controls and disciplined expense management. I'll update the progress on our longer term initiatives after Mary reviews the financials.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Robert, and good morning. It was definitely a tough quarter, resulting in unacceptable financial performance. The miss to our expectations came largely from weak traffic combined with a soft women's business, leading to increased promotions and markdowns. With the top line miss, we took action on the expense line, reducing SG and A expense from our original plan. Inventories ended the period flat to last year and on target, and we've revised our inventory plans for the 3rd and 4th quarters in light of the ongoing weakness in traffic.

Now looking at the details of the 2nd quarter, total revenue decreased 2% to $727,000,000 Consolidated comparable sales declined 7% against an 8% increase last year. Our conversion rate was approximately flat over last year. On weak traffic, transactions per store fell 3% and the average dollar sale was down 4% on a 1% decline in AUR and a 3% decline in UPT. Consolidated American Eagle Outfitters brand comps decreased 8%, Aerie comps decreased 2% and the total online business grew by 11%. The gross margin was under significant pressure, declining 360 basis points to a very disappointing 33.8%.

Increased markdowns, partially offset by IMU improvement, contributed to 2 50 basis points of the decline. Buying, occupancy and deleverage of rent on negative comps. Selling, general and administrative expense was up 5% to 186,000,000 dollars deleveraging 160 basis points as a rate of sales. The increase in dollars was largely due to hiring into open positions at the corporate office that were vacant a year ago. Additionally, there was incremental expense related to the opening of factory stores, Mexico, as well as our omnichannel initiatives.

As the business became increasingly tough in the quarter, we cut expense by roughly $10,000,000 Expense management remains a major priority as we balance critical spending to support our strategic long term growth, while delivering near term results and expense leverage targets. Depreciation and amortization declined $2,000,000 to $30,000,000 and leveraged 20 basis points. The dollar decline relates to a combination of last year's store impairments and maturing assets. Operating income was $29,000,000 down 50 6 percent to last year and EPS of $0.10 decreased 52%. Now turning to the balance sheet, please refer to page 7 of the presentation.

Starting with inventory, we ended the quarter with inventory at cost per foot down 1%, right in line with our guidance, albeit at a higher markdown rate. Looking forward, we expect 3rd quarter ending inventory at cost per foot to be up slightly against a decline of 12% last year. We ended the quarter with $405,000,000 in cash and investments. We now expect annual capital spending of $230,000,000 to $250,000,000 versus our previous guidance of $250,000,000 to $280,000,000 as we re timed some of our projects and investments. Given the decline in margin, we continue to evaluate our spending in all areas and are also implementing working capital initiatives to drive a more efficient use of cash.

On store activity, please refer to Page 10. We opened 20 new stores, of which 18 were factory stores. We closed 7 locations, including 6 Aerie stores. Total square footage is expected to increase in the mid single digits in 2013. As seen on Page 11, we had a total of 57 international locations in 12 licensed countries.

Now regarding the outlook. Our 3rd quarter trends remain challenging. We've experienced weak store traffic across North America and the continuation of a highly competitive and promotional retail landscape. With this in mind and an assumption that sales remain under pressure, we expect 3rd quarter EPS to be in the range of $0.14 to $0.16 compared to EPS of $0.41 last year. This is based on a comp decline in the mid to high single digits and continued margin pressure due to increased markdowns.

We are cutting expenses and expect SG and A dollars to decline compared to last year. Looking ahead to the Q4, we are revising our plans holistically, including our assortments, AUR assumptions, expenses and investments in inventory. We will provide Q4 guidance on the next conference call in early December when we have visibility into consumer spending for the holiday season. We are absolutely committed to strengthening our performance in the near term, pacing our investments and controlling expenses and inventory. Looking beyond 2013, we remain committed to delivering our long term financial targets.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Mary. We continue to operate in a challenging environment. With high teen unemployment, there is intense promotional competition for every dollar, further enhanced by newer competitors and the impact of technology on consumer behavior. In this environment, we need to bring our A game every day. Across design, merchandising, marketing and operations, we are fortifying our processes to make sure that we strengthen our near term business and drive for ongoing growth and margin improvement.

Our initiatives to improve our go to market and product development processes are tracking with the 25% reduction in process cycle time. New systems implementations, including our merchandise planning tool and CRM tools are largely on track and we should begin to see benefits early in 2014. We begin to pilot flexible fulfillment this quarter, giving us the capability to scale up into the holiday season. The current environment underscores the importance of our strategic initiatives to diversify our base business. Our factory business, which was $235,000,000 in 20.11 is on track to reach over $425,000,000 this year.

Currently at 98 stores, we can double the store base over the next few years. After opening over 40 stores this year, we have an additional 23 stores already on deck for 2014. We continue to see favorable store productivity with 4 wall profit per store significantly higher than mainline stores. We're also progressing well on omni channel initiatives. It's important to note that we are spending a good part of this year strengthening the basics of our online business to fortify the foundation upon which to build.

During the Q2, we launched a new mobile app, which with much improved performance with integrated AE Rewards capability. We also launched product reviews via mobile, driving over a 20% increase in daily submissions. Our online business is expected to reach over $540,000,000 this year, up from $368,000,000 2 years ago. Ares delivering solid improvements. We continue to reposition the store fleet into more productive and higher margin side by side and shop in shop formats.

We expect to open 9 side by side and 24 shop in shop formats this year and have 30 additional plans for 2014. Aerie is on target to achieve EPS in the double digits. On international, we continue to see strong global appetite for our brands. By early next year, we plan to lay out our China growth plan beyond the 6 stores which are currently operating. And we continue to pursue new license to store growth, delivering earnings accretion to our international business, which is up 30%.

Our entire team is keenly focused on regaining our momentum across the brick and mortar North American AEO business. This business is our foundation and must be solid as we position the company longer term as a global omnichannel competitor delivering sustained profitable growth and top tier returns. Thanks for listening and now we'll take your questions.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting our question and answer session. Our first question today is coming from the line of Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group. Please proceed with your question. Hi.

Can you talk a little bit about the women's business in particular? How that business do you see changing in terms of product? What was off and how you see it improving in timing? And also just about the promotional environment, where do you see pricing going towards in this new promotional environment? And what's the ultimate margin structure should look like?

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Dan, I'll take the first two questions and I'll let Mary answer the question on margin structure. On women's, the reality is we had and continue to have generally strong performance on our fashion offering. It's about 30% of our customer choices. We did have a weak dresses business in the Q2, but beyond that fashion performed well. Where we did not execute well was in core and core fashion.

And if you think about 2012, in jeans, pants and shorts, there was a lot of innovation in woven and knit tops, a lot of innovation in core and core fashion key items that are foundational to our business. We don't feel that we executed that innovation, trend, relevancy and value in the Q2. And as we looked at the overall assortment, that was our view on the weakness. So as we've reassorted the business, we were able to impact the back the last quarter of last month of Q3 and all of Q4. So we've reassorted not only in women's, but also took a good hard look at our men's assortment to make sure that we have the innovation, the trend relevancy and value in those key items that are foundational to our business and that they are matched with compelling fashion offerings.

The promotional environment has been very challenging this year. We had hoped to get AUR leverage based on both innovation that we were putting into our product as well as a shift in the mix of the product by price point bucket. That has just not happened. And so moving forward, what we're expecting is AUR pressure. And as I mentioned in my prepared comments, until we see a shift in consumer behavior towards our brand, we're going to remain cautious.

Speaker 2

And then Dana, what I would add to what Robert said is the promotional environment is challenging, traffic is challenging as he just said. We are planning to see that continued pressure on margin as we've seen so far in the first half of the year. Obviously, our long term goals are still our long term goals to have margin north of 40%. But I think for this year, we're planning for challenging margin. I think that's a prudent way to plan the business.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Anna Andrida with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question. Great.

Thanks so much. Good morning. You guys talked about decline in traffic continuing here into the 3rd quarter. Could you maybe talk about the quarter to date comp trends? Just trying to kind of parse out, are you running in line with guidance for down mid to high single digits?

And then secondly, on inventories look high versus your comp guidance, Maybe provide some color on carryover levels. And I guess I'm trying to understand why would inventories be up after the Q3? I think previously you guys have guided for flattish. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Okay. So in terms of our guidance, our business is currently running in line with the guidance we provided of comps down mid to high single digits. So that was our guidance and that's what we're currently running. In terms of inventory, if you recall last year in Q3, our inventory was down 12% year over year. So as we looked at planning for the end of Q3, I think last year we probably were a little bit lean in some sizing and on some customer choices.

So we kind of adjusted for that. But the other piece that's out there too is, our direct business, as we said, we're adding a new distribution center to the portfolio because we've been a bit capacity constrained in our existing DC. So it's simply the flow of the inbound product into the DC that we have to retime a little bit differently, so they can manage that heavy flow into the DC and it just happens to fall a week into the Q3. But what I would say more broadly is we ended Q2 in really good shape on inventory despite the fall off in top line. That is absolutely our maniacal focus for Q3 to end up the same way.

I would the guidance of being up slightly is more around some operational and executional things and some lessons learned from last year. But we will drive to the appropriate ending Q3 inventory. Okay. Next question please.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of John Morris with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning. Maybe Robert, if you can talk a little bit to performance that you're seeing within the denim category and give us a little bit more color there and how you feel about it? Is it consistent with the kind of results and projections that we're seeing now? And then also maybe if you can talk a little bit about how the holiday merchandising might differ from the fall as you move into holiday just in terms of design and product and what you mean when you're talking about reemphasizing on core and core fashion?

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. Hi, Don. In terms of denim, look, we're taking a cautious outlook for the Q3 as Mary mentioned. And we have been in the throes of the back to school season. Our denim business is one of the most important businesses to us.

We have the highest share among our direct competitive set in this segment. And we've been running key item promotions on denim through the back to school season. The results thus far are consistent with what Mary has guided to. I would say that in general though, our denim business is among the best in the business. If you look at a 2 year comp trend, we're up about 11%.

So, we feel really good about our denim, our denim assortment, the innovation that we put into it for the back to school season. We are just disappointed in the overall performance that we delivered in the Q2 and are remaining cautious as we navigate through what we consider to be choppy external environment. For the late Q3 Q4, our AEO women's and men's merchandising and design teams went back and looked at the assortment. The architecture is strong, but we put a much greater emphasis on ensuring that we had innovation in those key item categories that we're famous for. I'm not going to provide specific direction for competitive reasons going into the back half of the year.

But if you look at the first half of the year, and I'll use our women's business as an example, where in 2012, we believe we led the category in innovation in jeans, pants, shorts, women's woven tops and women's core knits, and we also executed a really strong fashion assortment on top of that. And if you think about bottoms in particular, last year driven by color, prints as well as innovative wash, we just did not have that level of innovation and product execution in the Q2. So our intent in looking at our assortments in the back half of the year was just go back and look by gender, by category, by item to make sure that we believe we not only have the innovation in the key items that we need, but that we bought them at a cost that will position our average unit retails with a strong value that our customers expect from us. And that's what we intend to compete with them in late Q3 to Q4. And we are revisiting our marketing plans to make sure that they broaden the reach and bring new customers to both our stores and to our site.

And by doing that combined with expense management and inventory control that Mary mentioned, we're going to execute our playbook as effectively as we can in this difficult environment.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Oliver Chen with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question. Hi, everyone. This is Nancy Hellicker filling in for Oliver.

Thanks for taking my question.

Speaker 3

Hi, Nancy.

Speaker 1

We're wondering, what your take is currently on state of the consumer related to the macro environment and your thoughts on the nature of volatility going into 3Q if that's continuing a little bit more specifically. And then just a modeling question if you could give us information on what your thoughts are for comp spread going into 3Q?

Speaker 3

I'll take the first question, then I'll let Mary take the question on comp spread. Thank you. So look, Nancy, we do see it as a very competitive environment out there. If you look at the macro environment, it's choppy and it's been unpredictable. There clearly is pressure on youth spending in particular with teen unemployment remaining very high.

That results in less discretionary dollars for spend. The population is expected to continue to decline at increasing rates. And so there's a lot of competitive pressure for every dollar of discretionary spending, particularly in the apparel category. And uniqueness of on the uniqueness of our brands, the relevancy, innovation and value of our brand and product driven customer experience. And even with fluctuations in consumer spending, we hope to be able to compete for market share.

There's been additional pressure. We still think the customers adjusting to spending their spending patterns based on the expiration of the payroll tax holiday that for a median AEO customer met the removal of about $30 weekly from paychecks or an estimated 8% to 9% of discretionary spending. So we're just conscious of that and the fact that, it is a competitive environment out there.

Speaker 5

I think last year we executed particularly well. The competitive

Speaker 3

environment was less severe. Executed particularly well. The competitive environment was less severe. There are newer competitors that are executing well and there's an impact of technology on both consumer behavior and consumer spending. So our intent is to compete effectively within that context.

Speaker 2

And Nancy, to answer your question on comp spread for Q3, it's about a point. But remember, we had the shift of the week, the 53rd week, from the high week from Q3 into Q2, and that was worth a little over $30,000,000 of revenue.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Tom Pallantra with SIG. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hey guys. Quick question hi, Robert. Quick question on AUR. That comment that you made on AUR, I was hoping that you could define a little bit more what you meant specifically, Robert. Are you guys basically saying in the Q4 you're expecting continued promotional activity?

Or are you adjusting your mix and that's affecting the AUR? And then just a step back question, I know the question was asked about product. Just your point of view, Robert, what would you guys have done differently in terms of your promotional messaging and or marketing Monday morning quarterback heading into the back to school season this year that you didn't do? Thank you. Sure.

Speaker 3

So in terms of the back half of the year, it's going to be we're anticipating a very strong and continued promotional environment. Many of our competitors have introduced new collections at very steep discounts, fighting for the discretionary spending among our core target, and we expect that to continue. We have also though reassorted from late Q3 to Q4 our range both in women's and men's. We've targeted corner price points that we know are the value price points for our core customer where they expect innovation, trend relevancy and great value and we bought into those price points. So that's our intent in terms of the back half of the year.

The issue in terms of hindsight, I'm not sure there's a lot more that I can say without revealing some of our competitive actions for the balance of the year. Tom and Seth to say, we have talked consistently about having a balanced assortment across core fashion and fashion. And while we did in terms of women's have the right number of customer choices across core, core fashion and fashion, frankly, we just over choices across core core fashion and fashion, frankly, we just over focused as an organization on fashion and did not put did not just maniacally focus on the relevancy trend relevancy, innovation and value that's required in those really foundational items. It's 80% of our revenue that come from core and core fashion, and the majority of our profitability. And while we need to have really relevant fashion assortments that represent about 30% of our mix, If we don't have the trend, relevancy, innovation and value in those core businesses, we don't have a foundation upon which to deliver that fashion assortment.

So we did not execute well particularly in women's, but we've taken a step back and looked in both men's and women's at our assortments for the balance of the year to make sure that we believe we do. And in terms of our promotional strategy, we I would say last year we were able to promote key item innovation with creative branding and great value messaging. And because our product strategies were off track at least in the Q2, our promotional strategy was predominantly value based. And we do best when we have great relevant creative branding that our messaging is key item innovation driven and that we're providing the right value to our customers and it's our intent to get back on our playbook, being very disciplined in testing, scaling and executing our promotional strategies on our playbook, as I mentioned in my prepared comments.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Richard Jaffe with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Thanks very much guys. And just a follow-up on the ad initiatives. Is there an opportunity to increase ad spend to do things a bit differently? Obviously, what didn't work in 2Q doesn't need to be repeated. Are there initiatives you can see today that could make a difference?

And could that cost more money? Are the resources available to try and perhaps to chase other advertising initiatives? And then secondarily, the product is not up to snuff. Is it materially different in the Q4 or in the second half, I should say? And is there an opportunity to impact the product in time for the holiday season?

Speaker 3

I'll take the question about advertising content and approach and Mary can talk about the investment level. And then I'll come back and talk about the product for the back half of the year. So in terms of our advertising initiatives, we're the one thing that I think is terrific about this team, we got to remember that this is the same merchandising design and marketing team that delivered great results in 2012, albeit with a weaker competitive base at the time. And I think a much greater execution of core and core fashion key item innovation trend relevancy, that enables our marketing to work harder for us. So I think in the end, we're pretty disciplined about testing and then scaling what we know to be successful strategies for the company.

Where I feel we did not execute well in the first half of the year is we were not able to deliver what I would say is a creative branding message that was rooted in core and core fashion key item innovation, because the product content wasn't as broadly there as we needed. And we also were not able to market in a way that brought a broader reach and new customers to the brand at the pace that we would need in order to offset the macro pressures out there. So our intent is to do our best to fix that in the back half of the year, putting a strong emphasis on social marketing as well as an improvement in our CRM capabilities. And there's evidence particularly of our investments in social, CRM, mobile of improvements in our execution thus far as we've built more foundational capabilities there. In terms of investment, I'll let Mary take that question.

Speaker 2

Yes. Overall for the year, our advertising year over year is up. But as we've looked and dig deep into the detail, not every element of our advertising

Speaker 5

is delivering the ROI we're

Speaker 2

targeting or expecting. So, the ROI we're targeting or expecting. So as we get into the back half of the year, in the spirit of looking at all SG and A expense, we'll look at the low ROI advertising, hopefully refocus it into something that we see is giving us a bigger return in the back half of the year. And then as I said earlier, we'll continue to focus on the rest of our expense line to try and keep advertising funded to the appropriate level.

Speaker 3

And where we can deliver return, of course, we'll invest. We plan to continue to invest behind growth because we have evidence where we're delivering growth that we're delivering high returns. In terms of the product that's due to the back half of the year, I'm not sure there's much more I'm going to say without giving away too much competitive intelligence. But the point would be as we're able to impact the final month of Q3 and all of the Q4 by reassorting across both men's and women's in those core and core fashion key items with an innovation and trend relevancy focus. In particular, we are moving into the back half of the year.

The back half of the year is more critical to American Eagle Outfitters. It tends to be about 60% of our revenue. Many of our Famous Four categories are stronger in the back half of the year, so we're maniacally focused on it. And we'll keep you posted. We were able to put greater emphasis on the display of those items that we already owned in the month of August September, but we were able to impact production from October forward.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The next question is coming from the line of Paul Lejuez with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Hey, thanks guys. Just two quick ones. Just curious if you are seeing any impact on your core stores as you open factory stores, if you just look at the stores nearby in malls, if there is any impact? And then also I was just curious about the $10,000,000 in expenses that you said were I think cut on the fly in 2Q. Just wondering what buckets those came out of?

Thanks.

Speaker 3

So Paul, I'll take the first question and then Mary can take the question on expenses. With the factory business, we're not seeing any material cannibalization or impact on the stores. In fact, the reality is that most of the factory stores we're opening in areas where we would have distribution voids. We very carefully look at the regional mall stores we have around factory store locations that we're planning to open. If there's an impact, it's relatively minor in the sort of 10% range.

But when you look at the positive net result for the company in total, it's accretive. There are a number of stores that we're looking to close. If you look at what we've said in the past, we're selectively pruning underperforming stores. We closed 29 stores in 2011. We closed 41 stores in 2012 and we're on track to close between 3550 in 2013.

Many of those stores that we're looking at would be stores where we are delivering to our replace those where we have distribution opportunities with more productive factory stores. The factory stores are delivering returns productivity greater than 50% of our mainline doors.

Speaker 2

In terms of the cost reduction for the Q2, it's the usual suspects around headcount, travel, supplies, that type of thing. I think in general, what we've tried to do is to protect long term growth initiatives as they are delivering to the return that we've expected them to. So trying to keep the right balance here of going after cost reduction in areas that don't impact the long term strategy. So pretty typical areas of expense reduction.

Speaker 1

Our next question is coming from the line of Brian Cunick with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Yes. Thanks very much. Two questions, I guess. Mary, maybe on the capital allocation side, it sounds like CapEx got pushed out a little. So just if you could remind us what your minimum cash views are on the balance sheet and the open to buy left on the buyback program?

And maybe for Robert, I thought it was interesting you guys opened a West Coast Technology Center and just curious what you plan to get out of that and how that fits in to what Mary's talked about, about a 23% SG and A goal over time? Thanks very much.

Speaker 2

Okay. In terms of cash and capital allocation, so we ended Q2 with about $400,000,000 of cash. We're projecting to end the year north of our kind of minimum target that we set, a bit north of the $600,000,000 Really proud of the team as they've So that's helped to mitigate a fair amount of the top line and margin shortfall that we've seen so far. In terms of the authorization, we have about 18,000,000 units left of our authorization this year or over the next 3 years. I think on that question, our priority has always been to invest in the company growth as the first priority, then look at obviously dividends and other shareholder return.

The first priority is to invest in company growth.

Speaker 3

And Brian, on the West Coast Technology Center, clearly, we're moving into a very different environment moving forward. I mean, we've competed quite successfully over the past 2 decades in a predominantly mainline stores, vertical specialty, predominantly U. S.-based environment. The future is clearly going to be impacted by technology. And it's our intent, as Mary said, to invest behind growth and be prepared to compete as a global omnichannel competitor.

We believe by having a technology center based in San Francisco partnering with our teams in Pittsburgh and in New York that we'll be able to attract the best talent possible in predominantly in the San Francisco Bay Area and Pittsburgh, in technology architecture, in CRM, in mobile, in social and in the operational management required to be a sector leader in omnichannel retailing. So that's where those investments are made. We've been extremely excited about the talent that we've been able to attract to the company. They're enthusiastic about the brands, the potential and the strategy. And we believe we can both invest in this important area for our future growth as well as be able to deliver within the 23 percent SG and A range that we've been guiding for a couple of years.

So stay tuned for that.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Jennifer Davis with Lazard Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 2

Hey, guys. Good morning. Hi, Jennifer. Hi. A quick clarification for Mary and then a question.

I'll start with a question. It's around the AE Rewards program. How many customers do you have now? What's on the list? Or how many customers do you

Speaker 5

on the list? And what are

Speaker 2

you seeing in terms of your most loyal customers? And then just a clarification for Mary, adjusting for the flow of the inventory for the new DC, what would Q3 ending inventory look like? Would it be more in line with sales trends? Thanks.

Speaker 3

So in turn let me take the royalty program question and then I'll let Mary answer the balance. So in terms of the total customer base, we have, as we've guided to in the past, we have roughly in the kind of 30 ish million range of customers in our database. If you look at active customers in the rewards program, that's about 10,000,000. If you look at active customers in the total database, that's about 18,000,000. Those are both up against prior year, but they're not up at the levels that we would like from a new member standpoint in order to deliver an improvement against the tougher macroeconomic environment that we're facing.

So we're highly focused on that. That's the purpose of our social CRM and mobile activities in

Speaker 2

particular. And then on inventory, that obviously wasn't clear in my statement. Guidance, I said we'd be up slightly. That's on a cost per square foot basis. We'll be down on units at the end of Q3.

So just want to clarify that. The new DC doesn't open until next year. My point was that our current DC, given that it is a bit capacity constrained, we have to be very careful how we manage the flow of units into that DC. So we're receiving some units a little earlier at the end of October, which happens to be end of Q3. So it's just bumping it up a little bit.

But I think the most important point is that we'll continue to manage our inventory, like we did in Q2 in line with whatever the top line results end up being for the quarter.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The next question is coming from the line of Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Robert, I guess, I understand that it's a tough compare to last year when you executed really well. Maybe you can just address the reasons for why you feel the core junior merchandise execution got off track? Was there a shift in responsibility? Did processes change? Why do you think things went wrong?

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. Hi, Jeff. Look, I think I've said what I have to say on that question. It's a team effort. I think from top to bottom, we have the same people who delivered great results last year from Roger and Fred and Tana and Amy on through working on the assortment this year.

I think we as a team, myself included, although we have the right assortment architecture, just got off track. We, I think, overly focused on the fashion portion of the assortment. It's 30% of customer choices, but 20% of the business. There's a lot of new fashion competition in the marketplace. And I think we are delivering in that portion of our assortment.

Our fashion assortment broadly performed outside of dresses, as I mentioned. But our business is built on the success of our core and core fashion key item foundational and heritage products. We need to innovate those to make sure that they're relevant. I think the example I used was the terrific performance in our bottoms business last spring, which does not anniversaried this year. And I think we took our eye off the ball in terms of obsessing.

We have to obsess on those Famous 4 categories and make sure that we put out the best product that's most innovative, most trend relevant and with the greatest value. And against a weaker competitive set last year, we didn't innovate as effectively as we should have. We just didn't execute well. It's the same team that did it last year and it's the same team that's focused on fixing it from late Q3 into Q4 and then setting us up for success into 20

Speaker 5

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Speaker 1

you. The next question is coming from the line of Matt McClintock with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Yes. Hi, good morning. Hi. I guess a couple of times you've made the comment that you perhaps over focused on the fashion assortment. And I was just wondering how do you think about that assortment as providing differentiation versus your core competitors, especially in this what is it looks like an increasingly intense promotional environment?

And then when you're thinking about the optimal mix, 30% as you said a couple of times, is that perhaps too high right now for what your customers demanding? Or is there perhaps room to increase that mix in a way to further differentiate yourself? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yes.

Speaker 3

Hi, Matt. Look, this business has generally been trending with about 70% of the customer choices in core and core fashion and 30% in fashion. But the revenue mix is typically about 80% in core and core fashion and 20% in fashion. We're very conscious of the fact that the competitive dynamics are shifting. We have both a group of traditional competitors who we compete for market share in our core Famouswear categories, jeans, solid knit, graphics, fleece, sweaters, etcetera, as well as a new set of faster fashion competitors that have obviously changed the way that the dynamics work in the market, which is why we're putting a strong emphasis on ensuring that our fashion collections are relevant.

I think as I've said, Matt, we did execute fashion well in the quarter. We executed well in women's too except in the dresses category. It's just that we didn't get that innovation in those core and core fashion items that we expect. I think our ability to compete is and I've said this strategically in the past is having the best product at the best value for the customer in those core and core fashion key items that are in our Famous 4 categories. In American Eagle Outfitters, it's jeans and pants, it's shorts, it's our solid knit programs, it's our graphic programs, it's fleece and sweaters, and Aerie, it's bras and undies.

We need to lead in terms of product innovation and trend relevancy in those categories. But we also have to do it at a value that is acceptable to our customer. I think we got a little ahead of our customer in this environment in terms of their willingness to spend. So our AUR assumptions were inaccurate. We've adjusted them for the back half of the year.

And we're very clearly developing our assortment with a focus on innovation trend relevancy and a smart value from late Q3 onward. And we believe by maintaining that balance and then obviously we will shift to the mix as the customer moves with us, but our intent is to compete in a balanced way across the assortment. That combined with sharpening our brand DNA and differentiating our marketing messaging, putting a particularly strong emphasis on technology enabled marketing, and increasing new to file customers and broadening our reach, we think is the formula to enable us to be successful moving forward.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Kimberly Greenberger with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Hi, good morning. This is Jay Sole on for Kimberly. Hi. Hi, Robert. I just have a question on guidance.

It looks like the 3Q guidance implies gross margins will be around 35%. That's down over 600 basis points versus only 3 60 basis points in this quarter. So my question is, first, is that accurate? And if so, why is the magnitude of the decline so much higher in 3Q than 2Q? Because American Eagle hasn't been below 38% in the Q3 in over a decade, and we're talking about 35%.

So maybe could you add some more color around that for us, please?

Speaker 2

I think as we looked at the 3rd quarter and reflected on the results of the Q2, watching the continuation of the highly promotional environment that's out there, as Robert said earlier, new floor sets heavily discounted from day 1. We just step back and said we have to assume the same thing going into the Q3. And that's what we have planned for. So as I said earlier, we'll continue to see margin under pressure here, we believe. At least that's what we're planning for.

Hopefully, it's something different than that. But at this point, that's what we know. It's prudent to plan that way and thinking that's how it will play out for the balance of the year.

Speaker 1

Our next question is coming from the line of Seth Lissink with Piper Jaffray. Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 1

Robert, I have a question for you. You've mentioned several times this morning that there are significant changes in how your consumer is trafficking your stores, responding to promotions, shifting from mainline to maybe online and outlet. Can you just give us a window maybe into the boardroom conversation around how the business model evolves from here? Is there an opportunity to build in more variability or flexibility into the cost structure to respond to these periods of volatility? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Sure. One of the things again I find impressive about this team is their our ability to manage the business in real time. You know, I think as Mary mentioned, we responded within the quarter to a very tough performance and we're able to address a lot of the variable expense, we think responsibly without divesting of the strategic growth initiatives are critical to our future success. I think, Steph, the way that we look at it is, if you look at the business 5 years ago, a decade ago, it was predominantly U. S.-basedverticalspecialtybrickandmortar retailers.

Today, it's global omnichannel competitors with the leaders and the high performers today having made significant investments in omnichannel technology innovation and capability as well as in making sure that they have the ability to be much faster in delivering trend relevancy and innovation to the marketplace. What we're focused on in terms of speeding up our cycle times, putting a foundational technology capability in place, improving our customer facing technology innovation, putting our advanced technology center in San Francisco and partnering it with the talent that we have in Pittsburgh and to make sure that we're building future that's based in our ability to compete as a global omnichannel competitor. We need to pace that investment with the fact that the foundation to our businesses are American Eagle Outfitters mainline stores business here in the U. S. And Canada.

But those businesses are clearly under pressure from a broader competitive set that's fighting for market share in a tough youth environment, particularly with high teen unemployment and predominantly at very sharp prices to fight for discretionary spending. So it's balancing, delivering in the short term while setting up the future. We think the evidence that we've provided to you of where our strategies are working. Our direct business is growing. It's over $500,000,000 business.

Our outlet business is on track to be over $500,000,000 business. Our Aerie business, which was shareholder dilutive just a few years ago, shareholder accretive today. We are putting investments behind initiatives such as flexible fulfillment to make sure that we can deliver our customers' expectations with little channel conflict. If we own the inventory anywhere in our system and we want to fulfill a customer's order, we want to be able to do that. We're making the investments that we need to make to be a competitor that's robust in the foundation.

We don't expect huge growth from it moving forward. But as we've said, if we can get modest comps from these businesses in the U. S. And Canada moving forward and the organic growth on top of that from our strategic initiatives, we'll be able to deliver longer term to the guidance that we provided.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The next question is coming from the line of Dorothy Lachner with Tohoku Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Wanted to go back to the issue of testing. I know last quarter you'd said you'd tested the entire back to school line. You were pleased with the read.

So I'm just wondering if you could give us a little bit more color about the testing process and how confident you are that the next time you can get it right and that you've made the right changes to the mix to hopefully get some improvement in the back half of the year?

Speaker 3

Sure. Hi, Dorothy. The team there's a disciplined process that Roger and the merchandising team follow, where we're able to take an extraction of each future season's floor set and put it into stores. Obviously, it's not in the relevant season, so you have to actually read the results with that as an understanding. But it enables us to get a feeling for how the customer is reacting.

But it is reacting to the context of our assortments. And I think as we get into the season, we're putting our assortments up against the broader competitive context. And that's where I think we fell short in the Q2 when we should have been innovating more aggressively in core fashion and we didn't. I think we probably could have read those results a little bit more self critically and made adjustments a little bit earlier. As we've looked at the results for the back half of the year on our bottoms and tops businesses, it's what led us to take a big step back, look at the corner value price points that our customers expect from us.

We've matched our products in core and core fashion, particularly famous for categories against those corner price points. And we've really gone back and looked at the innovation that we're providing relative to any feedback we've gotten, all the way down to every graphic that we are going to be putting on knits programs. They've all been tested and we feel like we're doing everything we can to get the core and core fashion assortments back on track.

Speaker 1

Thank you. The next question is coming from the line of Randy Konik with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Has really been lower than the Q2 gross margin. You have higher volumes in the Q3 versus the Q2. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why would the gross margins be lower in the Q3? And if they are indeed lower in the Q3, is there has to be a rethought process on how you think about your operating margins outlook from a longer term perspective given that your operating margins today are obviously higher than your 2 closest competitors. How should we be thinking about I think we've heard about where you're thinking with SG and A.

You can control those expenses. You took some out in the quarter. But the gross margins obviously surprised people in the Q2, where the Street is pretty surprised about Q3 gross margins being below Q2. So just trying to get some color, like why would it actually be lower in the Q3 versus the Q2? And why would and how do we think about these operating margins trending over the next couple of years?

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. So Randy, as the Q2 played out, what we saw was May June were pretty choppy months, some good weeks, some not so good weeks. As we moved into July, kind of post 4th July weekend, we saw a pretty rapid deceleration in the business as the weeks went on in July. And so what we've assumed here in our guidance for Q3 is that level of deceleration we saw in July playing through to Q3. So that's why it looks a little bit out of whack because obviously the Q2 numbers are average for the quarter.

So that's what we've assumed here for Q3. I think as we've said, we are replanning the second half of the year. We've got a lot of it done already. We're obviously closely watching inventory. Part of the margin pressure we're assuming here is a heavy promotion environment, but also some of what we saw in Q2 was clearing inventory as the top line fell.

I think our long term goals are still our long term goals. That 40% margin still feels right to me when I look at our growth initiatives and our strategic plan. As Robert just articulated around the growth of factory and direct and so on and so forth, they are all higher margin as well, too. So that still feels like the right long term target for us. Obviously, this is a bump in the road here in 2013, but still focused on getting ourselves back to that overall target of the 40% range.

Okay. Jesse, we have time for one more question.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our final question of the day is coming from the line of Adrienne Tennant with Janney Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Great. Thanks. Robert, I was wondering, the team is now working obviously on spring 20 14 flows. I was wondering are you making changes to the price architecture for those flows? And specifically are you bringing down the average initial retails to be more price competitive?

And then longer term you talked a lot about the mainline stores domestically with AE kind of in that 800 store range. Does the whole change in moving to online and omnichannel, does it philosophically make you think about the mainline store base and whether it could be smaller? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Hi, Adrienne. So the way that this has played out is obviously we had a disappointing first half. The team and I took a step back and basically rejected what we had set up for the second half and replanned it and reassorted it, which is why I think from October through January, we have what we believe is the right focus, albeit it will be in a highly competitive environment where we think there's going to be a lot of promotional pressure for every dollar of discretionary spending. But we feel like we've got the focus on the core and core fashion key item innovation that we need. That said, Adrianne, we've also taken a step back and looked at our holiday trans floor sets, our spring 1, spring 2 floor sets and we're in the process of looking how we transition from spring to summer.

We have looked at the way we performed in the first half of this year. We've identified the opportunities where we were very disappointed in our performance where the performance was unacceptable. We had in women's, for example, in the Q2, an unacceptable bottoms performance and an unacceptable women's lowman's performance. And our intent is obviously to go back and not only in women's, but also in men's, make sure that in those core and core fashion categories that we've got the right product, it's innovative, it's trend relevant and it's really smartly priced. That would imply that we understand our corner price points.

We know where the consumer buys at the highest velocity and we're going to develop our product into those price points with an appropriate promotional cadence. And obviously, we don't want to face the level of markdown pressure that we faced through the first half of twenty thirteen moving forward. So by having the right assortment with the right AUR assumptions, with the right innovation and trend relevancy, we think we can compete more effectively. In terms of your question on Mainline Door philosophy, I think as I mentioned earlier in answering one of the questions, we're on track to close anywhere between 35 to 50 doors this year. We look at every single door we have for its ability to be accretive in sales per square foot return on invested capital.

We are looking very carefully at the shift in customer demand and as technology impacts the way customers behave, we want to make sure that we've got the right balance between stores and direct online and omni businesses. We're piloting, as I mentioned, initiatives such as flexible fulfillment and plan to scale them. Before we make any broader moves on our store base, we want to understand how to use the assets we have. We only have 20 doors that are unprofitable and disappointing in terms of their returns at the moment and that's on a large store base of around 1,000 doors. So I would say we're very carefully considering it.

And as we move forward, if we need to accelerate store closures as the customer patterns of demand shift, we're prepared to do it, but we're going to do it responsibly and with the shareholders' interest in mind as we take those actions.

Speaker 2

Okay. Everybody, that concludes our call today. Thanks for your participation and interest in American Eagle Outfitters.

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