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Earnings Call: Q2 2013

Aug 2, 2013

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the American International Group's second quarter financial results conference call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to today's host, Ms. Elizabeth Werner, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Elizabeth Werner
Head of Investor Relations, American International Group

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to AIG's discussion of our second quarter 2013 results. Speaking this morning will be Bob Benmosche, President and CEO, David Herzog, Chief Financial Officer, Peter Hancock, CEO of AIG Property Casualty, and Jay Wintrob, CEO of AIG Life and Retirement. Other members of senior management are also in the room and will be available for the question and answer period. Before we get started this morning, I'd like to remind you that today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Any forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance or events. Actual performance and events may differ, possibly materially, from such forward-looking statements.

Factors that could cause this include the factors described in our first quarter 2013 Form 10-Q and our 2012 Form 10-K under Management's Discussion and Analysis under Risk Factors. AIG is not under any obligation and expressly disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Today's presentation may contain non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of such measures to the most comparable GAAP figures is included in our financial supplement, which is available on aig.com. I'd like to turn the call over to Bob. Bob?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

Good morning, Liz and everyone, and thank you, Liz. I'm on slide three. Clearly, as you can see, another, and let me underline the word another strong quarter for AIG. We continue to show consistency, and we show very strong across-the-board earnings and fundamentals for all of our businesses. Two things that I know that you're focusing on that are not in the strong numbers, and that is what's going on with ILFC. Let me deal with that right up front. We're continuing to negotiate with the consortium. Keep in mind, we don't have a buyer, but we have a group that is buying ILFC. This is a very complicated transaction, first on the nature of the transaction and who are the people that we're negotiating with and expecting to sell to. We are continuing that dialogue. We're continuing those discussions.

We did not receive the money on time. Now both sides are working on whether we, and how we continue to do this. We are focused on an IPO at this stage of the game, so that if they can come together and the money comes in, we will proceed. If not, we are preparing ourselves for later this year for an IPO where we hope to be able to do a deconsolidating trade with ILFC. We also were named a SIFI during the quarter, which allows us to now deal with the AIG Bank. We had retained the bank, but not because we wanted to keep the bank as a business. It's less than $1 billion, so we felt it was time to close it.

We kept it such that we would be able to continue having the Federal Reserve in and getting started early with the Federal Reserve so that we're well prepared for when the SIFI designation comes in. It has come in. We are not under CCAR until late next year, possibly, or even the first quarter of 2015. We're still being regulated as a savings and loan holding company, and that's how it's proceeding. Although the auditing and the efforts working with the Federal Reserve is about getting ready for our SIFI period of time where we're regulated by those rules and regulations. We were also named a G-SIFI, again, by being regulated by the Federal Reserve.

We're assuming that will be the lead in this effort as we think about global regulation. We're going to continue to operate that way, looking at the Fed as the lead regulator, working with the others. Hopefully, that will simplify this very complex regulatory world that we're now facing as a company. As a result of the strong results of this quarter, and quite frankly, all the preceding quarters, we had recommended to the board of directors, and after a review with the rating agencies who were required to give us their green flag, if you will, on capital management, the board has approved a $0.10 dividend per share, as you saw, and also allowing us to begin to buy back shares with an authorization of $1 billion. In addition to that, we said that those are priorities. Capital management on debt is also important.

You saw we reduced our debt. In fact, we reduced our expense, interest expense, by about half the dividend that we're going to be paying out. We got about a $300 million savings in interest. We're talking about if the dividend continues at the rate we're talking about, you're talking about $600 million basically for the year. We continue to see strong dividends from our subsidiaries with $1.3 billion of dividends and overpayments of insurance company. Our parent liquidity, absent the bank lines, which is on top of this, we have almost $11 billion in cash. We are really very strong, both from a cash and capital point of view, as well as operating results. Peter's going to talk about in just a minute the Property Casualty business. It is continuing its strong turnaround.

You can see that in the accident year losses, the ability to get rate where it makes sense. We're still growing the top line in a very strong way. You can see that our reserve is continuing to be maintained at roughly the levels we think is necessary. The only exception, Peter will talk about this, is the add to the reserve for Storm Sandy, which as you know, is a very serious storm and a very complicated storm to deal with. On the mortgage guarantee front, we've talked about re-engineering that business. We've said that we're now on our way with our new approach to risk selection. We think we've got a very good, well-thought-out, state-of-the-art process. In fact, that's in the numbers that you see now as it's emerging because about half of our earned premiums are coming from our performance premium risk selection capability.

You also see new business coming in. While we have a strong risk selection model, we're continuing to show strong growth. Of course, in the legacy book, we're still seeing modest decline in our delinquency rates. AIG Life and Retirement, again, a very strong performer over time and for the quarter. Variable annuity sales continue to be strong as others struggle with what to do with that business. Our mutual funds also are very positive. Assets under management continue to grow, which is a key measure as you think about this business because you earn fees on assets under management. It's really a very simple method to say that if those are going down dramatically, eventually your fees will start to go down. Here we're seeing good growth and good net flows from our businesses. A lot of questions about low interest rates.

Isn't that a problem? It must be a problem. I'm sure it's a problem. We have said to you quarter after quarter after quarter, I guess that sounds like I'm repeating myself, I apologize, but I do that once in a while. Clearly, the way that Jay's organization is dealing with this and the way the investments department is dealing with it, we felt that it was within the realm of being able to manage it without severe problems. You can see again this quarter, looking at our crediting rates, Jay and his team has done an outstanding job of keeping our spreads pretty much what we need them to be. In addition to that, of course, when you have low interest rates putting some pressure on us, you also get the opportunity with a well-designed book.

You have the earnings benefiting from investment income during this quarter to offset some of that drag. Bottom line is we're having another great quarter. We're continuing to see strong fundamentals, we're optimistic about our future. What I'm going to do now is turn it over to David, who will take you through the details of the quarter. David?

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

Thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone. As Bob mentioned, we did deliver another strong operating quarter, and we importantly continued to execute on our capital management objectives. With respect to ILFC, I would add that we continue to think of ILFC as a non-core asset. It remains as a held for sale asset, given our intent and our plan to monetize it through either a sale or an IPO, as Bob referenced. On the operating front, we saw solid premium growth and positive pricing in our property casualty business, along with continued improvement in the accident year loss ratio. Peter will talk about that in a moment. Life and Retirement continued to actively manage spread, and it also benefited from strong investment returns.

On the capital management front, we continue to optimize our capital structure, and through the first half of the year, we've retired a little over $5.5 billion in debt, including $2.9 billion in face amount of debt and hybrids that we've either tendered for, called or repurchased. Of the total debt that we have retired year to date, approximately $1.2 billion of that was associated with the direct investment book. Going forward, we will opportunistically execute on our share repurchases as well as debt capital management. As Bob mentioned, we have reinstituted a dividend and have a further share buyback authorization, both of which point to our positive view of future profitability and capital generation. Turning to slide four, second quarter operating earnings per share were $1.12, up 17% from a year ago. Operating ROE, which excludes AOCI from equity, was about 7.4% for the quarter.

On a basis consistent with our long-term aspirational goals, which also excludes the deferred tax asset from equity as we tax affect our operating earnings, operating ROE was about 150 basis points higher. Net income for the quarter was $2.7 billion and includes net realized capital gains and the related DAC and loss recognition effects on those gains, certain legacy legal settlement gains of roughly $260 million net of tax, and a deferred income tax valuation allowance release of approximately $700 million associated with our capital loss carryforwards. Inception to date, we've been able to recognize a little over 50% of the deferred tax asset on our capital loss carryforwards. Book value per share excluding AOCI was $61.25, up almost 11% from a year ago. Reported book value per share declined during the quarter to just over $66, reflecting the impact from the recent rise in interest rates.

Operating results begin on slide five. Each of our insurance operating business reported operating income improvements over a year ago, driven by favorable fundamentals. Again, Peter and Jay will go into further detail. The direct investment book in Global Capital Markets benefited from positive marks in the quarter. The direct investment book earnings were driven by positive non-agency RMBS marks reflecting housing price appreciation, prepayments on the underlying collateral and spread tightening. Global Capital Markets also benefited from amortizations and market appreciation on the underlying covered securities in the legacy multi-sector CDS portfolio. This appreciation reduces the liability we carry on the related CDS. Interest expense from the prior year declined, reflecting the interest savings from our liability management actions we've completed thus far.

The corporate expenses, including the impact incurred during the quarter for continued infrastructure build-out, were modestly higher than our expected run rate of about $225 million a quarter. There's roughly $20 million or so of corporate expenses related to our data center consolidation that winds down going into 2014. Operating results for the quarter included higher compensation expense related to share-based legacy programs that are tied to changes in AIG stock price. AIG stock price improved about $6 a share, which translates into about $100 million of total compensation expense for the company. The effective operating tax rate was almost 32%, slightly higher than our expected run rate, reflecting certain discrete items in the quarter. We continue to expect that the operating tax rate will be roughly in the 31% range for the second half of 2013.

As you may recall, we will not be paying any U.S. income taxes for some time, given our NOLs, which we expect could provide annual liquidity to the parent of approximately $1 billion in 2014 and beyond. Our capital position remains solid, and on Slide six, you can see the current debt levels reflect the nearly $950 million in liability management actions completed in the quarter. During the quarter, we called our $750 million of our 6.45% hybrids. We called them at par, and we purchased nearly $200 million of debt in the open market. Annualized interest savings from the debt we retired this quarter is a little over $60 million. As Bob referenced, the total savings for the annual activities that we will have completed, either through scheduled maturities and the active debt capital management completed for the full year, will be about $300 million.

We received dividends from our insurance subsidiaries of $1.3 billion in the quarter, or $2.7 billion year-to-date, as shown on Slide seven. We continue to expect $4 billion-$5 billion in annual dividends and distributions from our insurance subsidiaries. Parent company cash and unencumbered securities are approximately $11 billion at the end of the quarter, reflect these distributions and liability management that I referenced earlier. This parental liquidity includes about $5.4 billion related to the direct investment book in Global Capital Markets, which is currently allocated towards future maturities and liabilities, and also contingent liquidity stress needs. Nearly 80% of the direct investment book's debt matures by the end of 2018. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Peter to comment further on our property casualty business. Peter?

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

Thank you, David. Morning, everybody. AIG Property Casualty results in the second quarter reflect continued progress towards achieving our goals. Our second quarter results were driven by continued underwriting improvements and better than expected alternative investment returns. Turning to Slide eight, net premiums written grew 4%, excluding the effect of movements in the yen and the accounting changes for the excess of loss reinsurance premiums. Price increases and organic growth initiatives both contributed to this growth. We continue to expect modest net premium growth for the remainder of 2013 as we continue to write profitable new business. Our accident year loss ratio, as adjusted of 61.9% for the quarter, improved by 2.9 points from the second quarter of 2012 and was slightly better than trend. The improvement is due to business mix shift, continued enhanced risk selection, loss mitigation initiatives, and positive pricing.

Importantly, we see no signs that the trend is changing. Operating income was nearly $1.1 billion and included catastrophe losses of $316 million from flooding in Europe and the Americas, as well as U.S. tornadoes and hailstorms. Net unfavorable prior year reserve development for the quarter totaled $154 million, net of premium adjustments, largely from additional losses on Storm Sandy of $142 million. These losses resulted from higher severities on a small number of existing large and complex commercial claim notifications. The increased severity was driven by a number of factors, including the extensive damage caused to properties in the downtown Manhattan metropolitan area. On a year-to-date basis, net prior year development was favorable by $40 million if you exclude development related to Storm Sandy and was unfavorable by $102 million, including it.

Turning to Slide 9, Commercials net premium written on a reported basis grew by 5.5% from a year ago or 3.6%, excluding foreign exchange and the accounting change for excess of loss reinsurance. We saw growth in property, financial lines, and specialty, which all benefited from improved retentions, new business, and pricing. In the U.S., we saw rate increases of 7.3% for the quarter, led by U.S. Casualty with 9.4%. Property and Financial lines in the U.S. reported positive rate of 5.7% and 6.8% respectively. The market remains modestly more competitive outside of the U.S., but we continue to be encouraged by casualty pricing in the U.S. where rate is most needed. Our efforts to optimize mix, enhance risk selection, claims handling improvements, and increased pricing have lowered the accident year loss ratio for Commercial to 62.2%, down over five points from the year ago quarter.

Turning to Slide 10, Consumer net premiums written grew about 5%, excluding foreign exchange and the excess of loss reinsurance accounting change. Accident and health experienced growth outside the U.S., particularly in individual A&H in Asia Pacific, as well as in direct marketing. Net premiums written for our direct marketing business grew 5% for the second quarter of 2012 and accounted for 16% of total Consumer net premiums written. Consumer acquisition ratios increased a little over two points from last year and reflected our investment in the profitable direct marketing channel and other channels. The bulk of these costs are non-deferrable under U.S. GAAP accounting rules. Personal lines benefited from improved margins related to our Japanese auto business and should continue to improve through the remainder of the year. Slide 11 illustrates our investment portfolio mix.

Second quarter net investment increased 14%, reflecting strong performance of equity partnership investments and fair value increases associated with PICC Property and Casualty shares that were purchased in quarter and for which we elected the fair value option. As a result of our strong alternative investment returns and the PICC gain, net investment income was about $150 million above our expected return. We made $792 million in dividend payments to AIG Parent in the second quarter and look forward to contributing our planned dividends to the holding company during the remainder of the year. The second quarter marked continued progress towards increasing the intrinsic value of AIG Property Casualty. Our shift to high-value business, combined with underwriting and claims practice improvements, exemplified how our focus on balancing growth, profitability, and risk is helping to produce better margins. We maintain our commitment to capital efficiency and optimizing our risk profile.

As part of our continuing legal entity and capital restructuring efforts, we recently announced the planned merger of AIU and Fuji Fire and Marine companies in Japan. We expect synergies from merging these large companies and will result in improved customer service, greater management efficiency, as well as to provide us with greater capital flexibility and expense savings. In closing, I'm satisfied with our positive momentum and I'm confident that the progress we made this quarter will continue. Turning to slide 12, our mortgage guarantee business reported operating income of $73 million, which represented another quarter of improved profitability and growth in new business. Delinquency counts continued to fall, and in the second quarter, half of earned premiums related to high-quality business written after 2008. Mortgage guarantee results for the quarter also benefited from $49 million of income associated with commutations, settlements, and reserve releases.

We believe UGC is well-positioned to take advantage of the mortgage insurance market. The quality of the business written since 2008, improvements in home pricing, and increasing home sales should drive future profitability and allow UGC to capitalize on its unique underwriting approach, risk-based pricing, and strong capital position. Now, I'd like to turn it over to Jay.

Jay Wintrob
CEO of AIG Life and Retirement, American International Group

Thank you, Peter, and good morning, everyone. I'm going to begin on slide 13, where you can see that AIG Life and Retirement delivered solid results this quarter with operating income of $1.2 billion, up 23% from a year ago. This increase reflects growth in variable annuity fee income, effective spread management, and higher investment returns. Premiums and deposits grew 24% from a year ago, largely due to individual variable annuity sales, which exceeded $2 billion in the quarter. Net investment income increased 5% from the year ago period, driven primarily by higher returns in our alternative investment portfolio. Now, this was partially offset by an $84 million fair value loss we reported on our investment in PICC Group shares this quarter, which we now hold at slightly above cost. We continued our strategy of actively managing spreads in our interest-sensitive businesses.

Our strong results this quarter enabled us to provide additional liquidity to AIG Parent. As David mentioned, Life and Retirement paid $545 million in distributions to AIG in the quarter and $1.9 billion during the first half of the year. We're on track to meet our expected dividend payments for the full year. Assets under management grew 10% from a year ago, driven by increases across our business lines with strong account value growth in individual variable annuities and group retirement. As well as additional institutional assets accumulated through our stable value wrap business. Net flows increased substantially from the prior quarter and the year-ago period, reflecting robust sales of variable annuities and retail mutual funds. With the recent rise in interest rates, we saw the unrealized gain position in our general account partially erode, dampening the increase in AUM in the quarter.

Rising interest rates, however, have a positive impact on sales and earnings in our interest-sensitive businesses in particular, which I'll elaborate on later in my comments. To provide additional insight into the diversity of our businesses, this quarter on page 13, we added disclosure on our assets under management by product line. Our scale and highly diverse business mix provide a strong platform for growth and enable us to perform well in various market environments. Slide 14 further illustrates the diversity of our businesses based on earnings contribution. The solid performance this quarter reflects favorable trends across both the retail and institutional segments. The growth of our retirement income solutions business is a good example of our ability to be opportunistic while maintaining our pricing and risk management discipline.

After significant de-risking of living benefit features beginning back in 2010, we continue to benefit from strong demand for our variable annuity product and remain comfortable with the current trajectory of our sales run rate. At quarter end, our variable annuity account value, including both fixed and separate accounts, was $32 billion in our retail or individual variable annuity business and $52 billion in our group variable annuity business. Because of our large presence in qualified plans in the group business, 69% of our total variable annuity AUM provide only a guaranteed minimum death benefit with no guaranteed lifetime benefits. In addition, 77% of our GMDB by account value is in the lower risk return of premium or roll-ups that revert to return of premium at age 70.

Of our $22 billion of variable annuities with guaranteed minimum withdrawal benefits, 59% are in benefits with strong de-risking features such as VIX indexing of fees, volatility control fund requirements, and required minimum allocations to fixed accounts. The combination of a relatively small legacy block and enhanced risk control in our current features has allowed us to capitalize on opportunities when competitors have chosen or been forced to pull back from the market. In addition, this quarter, we introduced a new suite of fixed index annuities with living benefits to further diversify and enhance our guaranteed income offerings. In our interest-sensitive businesses in both the retail and institutional segments, we continued our strategy of active spread management to enhance profitability. With the recent rise in interest rates, we are seeing an acceleration in sales of our fixed annuities, which we reprice weekly.

We're encouraged by these initial indications as it remains our view that a moderately rising rate environment will be positive for our operating fundamentals. Slides 15 and 16 depict our investment portfolio composition, returns, and yields. Overall base yields improved slightly in the quarter, benefiting from mortgage loan prepayments and increased accretion income, principally from structured securities. These were partially offset by the impact of investment purchases made at yields lower than the weighted average yield of the existing portfolio. Our total or reported yield reflects strong alternative investment returns, partially offset by the fair value loss in PICC Group shares, which I mentioned earlier. Net spreads benefited from our active spread management actions, principally the lowering of renewal crediting rates and maintaining disciplined new business pricing.

At the end of the second quarter, approximately 74% of our fixed annuity and universal life account values were at minimum guaranteed crediting rates, we remain focused on managing spreads actively. To sum up, we're pleased with our solid earnings and distributions to parent through the first half of the year. We'll remain focused on executing our growth strategies by leveraging our strong relationships with distribution partners to increase profitable sales of our broad product portfolio across all channels while continuing to look for opportunities to grow our businesses where we can achieve the most attractive risk-adjusted returns. Now I'll turn it back to Liz to open up the Q&A.

Elizabeth Werner
Head of Investor Relations, American International Group

Thank you, Jay. Operator, could we please open the lines for questions now?

Operator

Yes, ma'am. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to signal for a question or comment, please do so by pressing the star key followed by the digit one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone today, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, to signal for a question or comment, please press star one on your telephone keypad at this time. We'll pause a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions.

Elizabeth Werner
Head of Investor Relations, American International Group

Go for the first one.

Operator

We will take our first question from Joshua Shanker with Deutsche Bank. Mr. Shanker, your line is open, sir. If the line is muted, please unmute the phone line.

Joshua Shanker
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sorry, hello. Yep, thank you. Good morning, everyone. As the capital returns story unfolds and you get dividends from your subs, maybe ILFC closes. I'm wondering in the conversations you've had with the rating agencies, what kind of mix of debt retirement versus share repurchase are you thinking to keep in good stead with them?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

We've not had that level of conversation. We go to the rating agencies when we have something specific to say we want to do. As overarching, we continue to focus on taking care of the dividend. Doesn't mean we might want to increase that, our focus is on debt and share buybacks. David, do you want to comment?

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

Yeah, thanks, Bob, and good morning, Josh. As we think about our capital management, we've discussed in the past a targeted capital structure, and we're nearing that optimal mix of debt and capital. We still do have some expensive hybrids out that are of interest to us, but that'll occur over time. We have taken an approach with the agencies, with the other various stakeholders, with respect to our capital management, that we first raise the deployable capital, get it to the holding company. We then run through a rigorous set of internal stress tests and analytics, and then we consider the best way to deploy the capital. We do not get out in front of ourselves with respect to spending it before we get it.

Joshua Shanker
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Understandable. Peter, can you talk a little bit about where you are on Superstorm Sandy in terms of approaching the full limit of your, I guess, your deductible for the reinsurance?

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

We haven't disclosed the attachment point on the reinsurance, suffice it to say that we don't expect to pierce it. On the other hand, we're not too far from it when you actually look at what we expect the ultimates to be. In terms of where we are in terms of the remaining tail, we're about 50% settled and about a third paid cash out the door on the Superstorm Sandy claims. There's still a number of repairs underway as we speak. It'll be probably another quarter before we really get to a final number.

Joshua Shanker
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, thank you, congratulations on the good announcements.

Operator

We will take our next question from Paul Newsome with Sandler O'Neill.

Paul Newsome
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for the call. I was wondering if you could go just in a little bit more detail into the steps that allowed you to announce the dividend and the repurchase. I guess I'm surprised that you were able to do this before the ILFC transaction. Maybe if you could just talk a little bit more about how that process worked in terms of discussions with the regulators as well as your own thinking. What's left that's contingent, if anything, on capital management given the ILFC transaction?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

I'm not sure I understand the last question. You want to know how much more I'm going to do? I'm not sure I would give you a specific answer, let me give you a general answer. That the way we did it, I know you're going to think I'm being trite, but I'm not. The fact is, you first get your fundamentals right, make sure the company is operating well, make sure all of the buckets of risks have been accounted for. While we need to improve our stress testing, we have to improve the systems, improve the process, improve the automation to be much more industrial strength in terms of what we do. We have a process that we know works well, you really need to satisfy yourselves as a management team that we can afford to do capital management.

That's number one. Number two, we sit down with the rating agencies and walk them through what we want to do, and they give us their opinion based upon the information we've provided them and the track record we're showing them. We spend considerable time with our board of directors, who want to make sure that we're not being premature in some of the things we want to do as a management team. We spend a great deal of time with the board in detail, taking them through our whole capital planning process, taking them through our stress testing. For example, our stress testing is basically modeled using a lot of the information from the Federal Reserve.

As I've said before, when you think about, and I think it's a shame that America doesn't understand the amount of stress testing that is done at financial institutions to make sure, forget about being too big to fail, they can't fail because of what they are required to maintain on their books. For AIG, we go through a process that says over the planning period of 2013 and 2014, what would happen if we underperformed our profit budget by $23 billion? What happens during that same time if the S&P is down close to 700? What happens if the credit aspect of credit spreads, not interest rate sensitive, but what happens if we have a period of WorldCom, Enron, and you pick any other periods you want, credit spreads widen dramatically about 400 basis points.

At the same time, what happens if unemployment doesn't go to the 10s but goes to 12.5%? By the way, if that's not enough, what would happen to AIG if in fact housing prices were to drop 20% from here, knowing the amount of mortgages we have on our books, plus the mortgage insurance business as well? By the way, since you're an insurance company, why don't you throw a Storm Sandy in there, and make sure that you've got enough money to cover that storm at the same time. That's in English, what a stress test is, and I've given it to you at 10,000 feet. We showed the board that after all of that, we could maintain our CMA levels, maintain the risk-based capital in this company at those levels which are required for our ratings.

I would think if that kind of scenario occurred, the states would be really pleased that we could at least meet our minimum regulatory requirements and work our way back up. We're not talking about minimums. We're talking about the CMA levels. Based upon that, the board said, "We think it's sound for you to, at this time, proceed with your dividend and proceed with a billion-dollar share buyback." If ILFC closes or when ILFC closes, the board will look at what we prepare. We will then update our stress test, update the information. We will share it with the board. We will share it with the rating agencies. Based upon all of that, the board will make a decision. That's how the process works. I know people are asking, well, did the Fed approve it? The Fed does not approve these things.

The Fed oversees what we're doing. If the Fed felt at any point in time that we're doing something as a savings and loan holding company, they would go and say, "Look, I think you're being imprudent." They don't approve things. Once we get under the CCAR test, however, then they will in fact, look at our CCAR, look at the amount of capital we have, and look at the process we have in place to calculate that information. Based upon the quality of our systems, we have a runway to get there, and we're working hard along that runway. That's why we wanted to actually people said, "Are you nuts? Why would you want to start early?" Is because you want to get prepared so that you have an acceptable process.

It's a repeatable process such that the Fed is very comfortable that not only do you have numbers that say you're okay, but you have a process that says your numbers are okay. That's all what we're working towards, and that's something at the end of 2014 into early 2015. For now, it's making sure we live with the first half of what I said, and that is we run the company the right way and we're being prudent. Long-winded answer, I apologize, but I know a lot of you are trying to figure out what happened here, and it's what we said all along. When we're ready, we will.

Paul Newsome
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

No, that was a terrific answer. Thank you very much. Very helpful.

Operator

We will take our next question from Jay Cohen with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Jay Cohen
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thank you. A couple of questions. I guess just to follow up on that last one. While the Fed didn't explicitly approve this, you obviously had discussions with them prior to making this announcement.

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

We inform the Fed of everything we're doing of any consequence so that they're aware of any issues we have, so they don't read about it in the paper. Yeah, they're our regulator. They're in many of our meetings. They're in many of my leadership meetings, attending it. This is important that you keep your regulator understanding what you're doing, and you are very transparent with that regulator. They're aware of not only this, but everything else we're doing.

Jay Cohen
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

That's great.

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

By the way, Jay, the key is the rating agencies. Right now that's where we go. If the rating agency said, "We're having some concerns with what you're doing," I can assure you we would not have done it.

Jay Cohen
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Exactly. Second question. I know the details of any prior year development will come out in the 10-Q. Peter, I'm wondering if you could talk, excluding the Sandy development, what you saw. Were there any particular lines where there was material adverse development?

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

No, it's very benign. Everything was immaterial in the context of our results. I don't know whether, John, you want to give your comments?

John Q. Doyle
CEO of Global Commercial Insurance, American International Group

I certainly agree with the way Peter described it. We had some movement up and down for, I guess within casualty, some loss sensitive adjustments that were offset by premium accruals. Outside of that, we had a bit of adverse development in a construction defect related claims out of a program that's been in runoff for a number of years, largely around legal expenses. Inconsequential and material relative to the total.

Jay Cohen
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

That's great. Thank you.

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

We had a slight favorable in Japan consumer.

Jay Cohen
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Good. Thanks, guys.

Operator

We will take our next question from Jay Gelb with Barclays.

Jay Gelb
Analyst, Barclays

Thank you. Can you give us a sense of how long you think it would take to complete the $1 billion buyback authorization?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

I would appreciate giving you all advance notice, we will continue to do what's prudent, and we'll continue to evaluate different options and different techniques. For now, we'll let you know when we're done, and we'll keep you posted as we buy them back and what the average price per share is.

Jay Gelb
Analyst, Barclays

In terms of future buybacks on top of this authorization, does the sale or IPO of ILFC need to be complete before we can expect additional buybacks to this authorization?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

What I said when I was asked the other question, we look at our capital, we look at our results, we look at how we're faring. We do our stress testing. We update our stress testing throughout the year. We would continue to do what we think is prudent and for AIG. If ILFC were to close, depending upon what kind of transaction we do, we would factor that into our thinking.

Jay Gelb
Analyst, Barclays

Okay. For Peter, based on the first half results, it still appears that there's 5-10 points of combined ratio improvement that's needed to get to that 90%-95% calendar year goal by 2015. What's your confidence level in achieving that?

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

Well, I think that I listed out the various initiatives that have led to the trend in accident year loss ratio improvement that we've had now for 10 quarters. I think that there's no sign that any of those initiatives are sort of experiencing diminishing returns. Eventually, obviously, we will experience diminishing returns, but we're making good progress on all of them. The actuaries take time to recognize initiatives that are emerging in the loss triangles, but may not be confirmed with enough statistical significance yet. We have sort of some line of sight into the sort of future momentum. Obviously, pricing is outside of our control. Again, as I mentioned, where we felt there was the greatest pricing inadequacy in the US casualty lines, we continue to have seen quite good pricing trends.

In Europe, where the pricing's been a bit softer, we already had pretty decent adequacy. I see no change in my level of confidence that we'll accomplish that target.

Jay Gelb
Analyst, Barclays

Right. Then in the meantime, does that also mean you have confidence in the adequacy of AIG's overall property casualty reserve position?

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

Yes.

Jay Gelb
Analyst, Barclays

All right. Thank you.

Operator

We will take our next question from Jimmy Bhullar with J.P. Morgan.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Hi, good morning. The first question's on the P&C business. Your expense ratio picked up a little bit sequentially, I think you've talked in the past about expenses being elevated in the near term as you're investing in the business, then starting to improve sometime in 2014 and beyond. Are you still comfortable with that? Then on the ILFC transaction, I don't think there's a breakup fee, when you talk about deconsolidating trade, I'm assuming you're implying over a 50% sale, I just wanted to make sure that that's correct. The last question is on the fixed annuity business. We've seen industry sales improve as rates have gone up. Your sales sequentially were actually down and your surrenders were up. Not sure if that's because the block is aging or what's going on there.

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

Well, as I've said before on the expenses, yes, we are spending on infrastructure and a number of analytical resources, data improvements that are integral to our improved risk selection and claims handling. We're seeing benefits in the loss ratio offset by increases in the GOE ratio. We continue to invest in acquisition costs. The overall expense ratio remains elevated. I would expect the GOE ratio to come down, as you point out, in the sort of mid-2014 period. A lot of the heavy lifting in terms of investments will start to tail off in that period.

The one area, though, I would point out where there may be slightly a more delayed expense benefit is what I announced in the comments earlier, which is the merger savings between AIU and Fuji Fire and Marine, which is a very substantial merger integration effort that'll take some time to execute because of the sheer scale of it. It's between the two companies, almost 6,000 people, so it's very substantial.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay.

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

Jay, why don't you cover the fixed annuity comment and then turn it over to David, who will finish up with a question on ILFC.

Jay Wintrob
CEO of AIG Life and Retirement, American International Group

Great. Thanks. Jimmy, I think your presumption is correct. Being the largest in the fixed annuities, we probably have the biggest book, and the block is aging. That's as expected, leading to higher surrenders, which because the vast majority of those surrenders are from contracts with high guaranteed minimum interest rates, 3% and above in some cases. That's actually a very good thing from a profitability standpoint. We did see some interesting competitors come in early in the quarter and increase their sales. We stuck with our pricing discipline as we always do. Having said that, late in the quarter and through the month of July, as I mentioned earlier, we have begun to see an acceleration in sales of fixed annuities now that rates have spiked up. The block is behaving as expected.

Again, the vast majority of what's surrendering is at high guaranteed minimum interest rates.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay.

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

I would just follow up, and we've said this, I believe, on a previous call, and that is that Jay and his team are holding to a very strong discipline. When you think about rising interest rates, and I don't need to, if you look at book values this quarter, you all understand it clearly of what can happen with rising interest rates. You don't want to have a very tightly priced fixed annuity book sitting at these rates right now. If you do see 200 basis points rise, that will be very helpful for AIG and for Jay's business. If you have a large block of low interest rate annuities, fixed annuities in that kind of environment, you could see some expensive disintermediation.

Part of our hedging strategy is to make sure we don't have an oversized book at these levels that we have to worry about rates going up and what happens to that block. I think right now we see rising interest rates, at least for the first 200 basis points, is a big positive for the company.

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

Jimmy, it's David. With respect to your ILFC question, as I said in my remarks, ILFC is a non-core asset, and we will pursue our plan to dispose of it either through a sale or through an IPO. With respect to the sale, again, you would ask about a breakup fee. The deposit is not a breakup fee, but we will protect our rights to that deposit. That's all I would say with respect to that. With respect to the 51%, yes, that is the level at which we deconsolidated. We, of course, would evaluate market conditions and valuations, et cetera, at the time of an IPO to optimize the value of that monetization for the benefit of AIG and our stakeholders. We haven't set any predetermined notion, but we'll optimize the value.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Protecting, I don't understand what protecting the rights on the deposits means. Maybe you could just?

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

Well, I'm not going to say any more than that, just we'll protect them. It is not a breakup fee, which was your question, and we'll-

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

We'll pursue our rights under the terms of the contract.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

That's what I thought. Maybe if I just ask one more, I think Peter mentioned that the actuaries were being somewhat conservative in their loss picks. I'm assuming that's implying that there's some level of cushion in your reserving. Is that the right read? If that is the case, how do you reconcile that with the fact that if you look at the last six quarters you've had, I think four of those quarters where you've had actually adverse reserve development.

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

What he said was, let me be really clear, that until you see the emergence of a pattern that the actuaries are comfortable with is not a short-term blip, but in fact that's what we call vectors in math. You begin to look at it over an extended period of time that you have a clear pattern. Until that emerges, they're not going to make some early judgments. The judgments they make are what they believe is the best estimate and the most accurate estimate based on the data that they're seeing. They want to see more of an observable period before they make any judgment. That's what he said, don't misinterpret it.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

All right. Thank you.

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

I'd also add that the reserve adjustments that you witnessed in the last two and a half years have been largely related to older accident years. I've been talking about accident year loss ratios and the impact of new underwriting guidelines and risk selection techniques. They will take longer to emerge, I think they're really separate issues.

Jamminder Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay, thanks.

Operator

We will take our next question from Josh Stirling with Sanford Bernstein.

Josh Stirling
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Hi, good morning. Thanks for having us on the call, and congratulations. Good quarter and exciting news. A question on capital returns. When you began this journey, you guided to $25 billion-$30 billion of capital management. On rough math, I think you're somewhere around $9 billion-$14 billion remaining by 2015. As you're now finally being allowed to act like a normal company, should investors expect measured, regular, and recurring buybacks like we see at your peers? Or is this something where we should expect this to be very opportunistic and episodic, as we've seen over the past couple of years?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

I'm going to turn it over to David. I would say that our first, and really, we said dividends, capital management, but our first priority is to find businesses that may be strategic and make sense for AIG and are not closed blocks, but growing blocks. We'd like to continue to invest our money in those businesses. We're going to continue to look at the best way to deploy our capital with the stock price, as you saw last night where it's at. You have our book value, and you see what's going on. Obviously, as you get closer and closer to book, you want to think more carefully about what you're doing. If you get over book, you think a lot about what you want to do. I think all of that as an overarching concept, which is not new to any of you.

David wanted to talk about the particulars on our aspirational goals.

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

Yeah, sure. Thanks, Josh. Just again, to recap, we've done a total to date of a little over $18 billion with the $13 billion of equity we did last year, equity buyback. A little over $3 billion of debt capital management going after some of the callable, very expensive hybrids. The recent share buyback we just announced on the authorization and then the couple of years worth of the dividend, they sort of add up to 18. You're right. We've got $7 billion-$12 billion to go, and I think the fundamental foundation, as we've said, is we've raised the deployable capital to the holding company, and a very important part of that is the dividend flows that both Jay and Peter referred to, is raise the deployable capital. In addition to that, we have the ILFC proceeds that are unencumbered of the holding company.

I also referenced in my comments about the tax sharing payments that in 2014 should be in the $1 billion range, and they grow from there, and they're annual after that. You can see a path, and we can see a path to raising the deployable capital, and then that is input to the framework that Bob laid out in terms of how we and how the board and the various stakeholders think about how we go about deploying it.

Josh Stirling
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

It could be lumpy.

David Herzog
CFO, American International Group

Again, it's going to be opportunistic as we have done in the past. We will be prudent, and I think Bob laid out a very clear framework for how we think about it and how you should think about it.

Josh Stirling
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

That's helpful. Thank you. If I might switch to Peter, you guys have made a really relatively dramatic progress in the accident loss ratios and combined ratios in P&C commercial, and it's great to see that playing out. The question I would ask is, as you continue the journey to get to a low 90s combined ratio, the consumer lines don't seem to be going the same direction, and it looks like maybe there's some noise in the quarter, but just generally, I wonder if you can give us some more color on the relative magnitude of some of the key levers and how you think about the status of the initiatives on that side of the house.

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

Sure. The big noise in the quarter is the JPY exchange rate. There's a very big portion of our consumer business in Japan. You need to strip that out before you even think about it. There's some significant opportunities in Japan to improve profitability, as we talked about, in terms of both the expenses, but also as we reinvigorate the brand in Japan. Outside of Japan, there's another one-off item that came through the loss ratio but not net income, which is in one very large extended warranty program where there's an offsetting profit-sharing agreement that is not in this. It's an issue of geography on the income statement. That's a one-off adjustment you need to make when you look at the loss ratio in the second quarter.

Beyond that, I think that the emerging market story is very positive in terms of long-term profitability and growth. The startup costs of that are quite substantial, that adds to the expense ratio. We've talked many times about the direct marketing business, which we feel has excellent lifetime profitability over customer relationships, but has a pretty unfavorable GAAP accounting. We want to take a measured approach to how much of that we do, but we like it from a marginal ROE point of view over the lifetime of the customer relations based on the persistency that we've been seeing in that book. We'll be doing that in a number of additional countries. I think in general, we see continued growth in consumer. I think we have opportunities to focus more than we do today.

We operate in 90 countries, I think that that will bring some efficiency gains, the convergence to common technology platforms will make it also more efficient.

Josh Stirling
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Great. Thank you. Keep up the good work.

Elizabeth Werner
Head of Investor Relations, American International Group

Operator, I think since we're getting close to 9:00, we'll only be able to take one more question. Please reach out after the call with your additional questions, we will certainly do our best to follow up as soon as possible.

Operator

Thank you, ma'am. We'll take our final question from Mark Finkelstein with Evercore.

Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore

Good morning, everybody. Maybe I'll start with Peter on international commercial. The numbers were just a little bit lighter than I had expected, maybe user error. I guess the way I would frame out the question is, I get the point about less need for rate than you have in North America. Are you satisfied with these margins, do you feel like you need to improve them on a core basis in terms of achieving your overall targets?

Peter Hancock
CEO of AIG Property Casualty, American International Group

I think that, again, a little bit of a foreign exchange element in terms of the top line there. There is continued opportunities for streamlining our technology and reaping the full benefits of legal entity consolidation. As you may know, at the end of last year, we consolidated all 25 European countries into one legal entity, that's starting to give us efficiencies. On the capital efficiency, that hasn't fully come through. In general, the international business has a better ROE because it's shorter tail, less dependent on investment income. I'd say that the success of our commercial property business internationally has been very pleasing. We've seen a good take-up rate of our large limit, highly engineered property

activities, further diversifying our book away from over-concentration in U.S. commercial property. I don't know whether John, you'd want to elaborate on your level of satisfaction with international operations.

John Q. Doyle
CEO of Global Commercial Insurance, American International Group

Yeah. I see an opportunity for us to continue to grow that business. Peter mentioned the FX pressure from Japan. That obviously had an impact on the top line in the quarter. We saw, outside of Japan, the rest of Asia, 18% growth in the quarter. Middle East and Africa, 19% growth, 27% growth in Latin America. Obviously, those are smaller parts of our overall commercial insurance franchise. You know, in terms of pricing or rate adequacy, on a major line basis, right? If you think of it from a property, casualty, financial lines, and specialty point of view, all of our major regions outside of the United States, in those major lines cover their cost of capital currently.

There are some opportunities for margin improvement, obviously, there are some smaller lines that, you know, in any given jurisdiction have some profitability challenges that we'll always be dealing with. There were some cats in the quarter, right? As well, in Argentina, modest amount in Australia, then the flooding in Europe as well. You know, all of those events had an impact on the bottom line in the quarter. We think we're very well-positioned outside of the United States and inside the United States. But we see good opportunities for profitable growth all throughout the rest of the world.

Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. Maybe a question on the DIB. I think every quarter I look at my model and what you guys produced, and at least for the last four or five, I feel like the DIB has beaten my expectations pretty widely in a lot of cases. I guess you've got 80% of the maturities, coming within 2018, I think you said. Maybe the way to ask the question is, how far do you think we are from that so-called intrinsic value? Is there any framework for how to think about DIB earnings going forward?

Robert H. Benmosche
President and CEO, American International Group

Brian, you want to cover that for us as we close down the call?

Speaker 15

Sure. I'd be happy to. Again, the performance of the DIB is not going to be linear. We've had market conditions that have allowed us to recognize the gains you've seen over the last few quarters. As we talked about, we gave some rough ideas of what we think the pull to intrinsic is. At the end of last quarter, we said it was around $5 billion, a little under $5 billion. We've had approximately $750 million or so of gains, and we've also sold some assets in the DIB to the operating companies. Those are the gains and the sales of those assets reduce that future upside. If you think about it now, at around, you know, $4.1 billion, $4.2 billion, that's probably where we are.

Another way to think about it is if you look at the DIB capital, the NAV of the DIB, and you look at the composition of the assets, you could think about it as having roughly a 10% return on that capital over time. Again, that's probably the simplest way to think about it if you're trying to model. This will come in again over time. We could have down quarters. Again, a lot of it depends on the markets. I think, you know, from the sort of 2018 period forward, you're probably looking at six to eight years before you see a bulk of that capital start freeing up and coming through.

Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 15

Sure.

Elizabeth Werner
Head of Investor Relations, American International Group

Thank you again for joining us this morning. Certainly, if you have any follow-up questions, please reach out. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter.

Operator

That does conclude today's conference. Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.