Earnings Call: Q1 2021

Nov 5, 2020

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the EMCOR First Quarter twenty twenty one Results Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Tracey Whitehead. Ma'am, the floor is yours. Thank you, and welcome to Amcor's first quarter earnings call for fiscal twenty twenty one. Joining the call today is Ron DeLea, Chief Executive Officer and Michael Cazimento, Chief Financial Officer. At this time, I'll direct you to our website, amcor.com. And under the Investors section, you'll find our press release and presentation, which will be discussed on the call today. We'll also discuss non GAAP financial measures and related reconciliations can be found in the press release and presentation on our website. Also a reminder that statements regarding future performance of the company made during this call are forward looking and subject to certain risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ from historical, expected or predicted results due to a variety of factors. Please refer to Amcor's SEC filings, including our statements on Form 10 ks to review those factors. With that, I'll hand over to Ron. Thanks, Tracy. Thanks, everyone, for being with us today to discuss Amcor's first quarter results for our 2021 fiscal year. We appreciate you making the effort to join the call. Any of our team members are on the call We appreciate their efforts as well, which have been really outstanding over the start to the fiscal year. As Tracy mentioned, joining me on the line today is Michael Casimano, Amcor's CFO. And we'll start with some brief prepared comments before we take your questions. I'll start with Slide three. Everything we do at Amcor starts with safety. As you would know from those who have followed us before, safety is a value at Amcor. So the priorities in the business may shift from time to time, but our values remain consistent and safety would be the most important of those values. And this year, given the context around COVID-nineteen, we're also clearly focused on keeping everyone on our team healthy as well. And as we continue to navigate the additional risk and complexity of operating during the ongoing pandemic, we remain confident and convinced that the protocols we implemented earlier this year in our facilities will enable us to continue to keep our coworkers healthy and to keep our plants running as they have been thus far. With regard to safety in a more traditional sense, our recent performance continues to be a real highlight for Amcor through the first quarter. Across the company, we achieved a thirty percent reduction in the number of injuries compared to the prior year and over half of our sites were injury free for at least twelve months. That's a significant achievement in our view, particularly in the current environment, and it's a direct result of the dedication, commitment and focus of our employees to keep themselves and their coworkers safe. Moving on to Slide four and the key messages we have for today. First and foremost, we've had a strong start to fiscal twenty twenty one. We delivered outstanding results in the first quarter, which were ahead of our expectations, and both segments produced strong organic growth. Our Flexible Packaging business is capitalizing on the strategic and financial benefits from the transformational Bemis acquisition, and the Rigid Packaging business is also building momentum with strong volume growth and cost performance. Second, the outperformance in the first quarter gives us the confidence to raise our outlook for fiscal twenty twenty one. We now expect adjusted EPS growth of 7% to 12% in constant currency terms. And today, we've also announced the dividend increase and a share buyback. And lastly, the investment case for Amcor has never been stronger. In the near term, organic growth from our consumer and health care exposure should remain resilient. We'll deliver further acquisition synergies, and we continue to offer an attractive dividend currently yielding more than 4%. And longer term, we're very well positioned. Momentum is building around innovations to deliver more sustainable packaging, and we have a strong balance sheet and annual free cash flow of over $1,000,000,000 which provides the capacity to invest back in the business, to pursue growth opportunities and to maintain an attractive dividend. Slide five provides a summary of our first quarter financial results. And earnings growth was strong with EPS increasing 20% on a constant currency basis, And that growth was really driven by three discrete components. First, eight percent of the EPS growth was organic, which was a real highlight for both the Flexibles and Rigid Packaging segments. On EBIT terms, organic growth in the Flexibles segment was more than 4% and all of the 7% growth in the Rigid Packaging segment was organic. And the strong performance in the operating businesses was partially offset by the phasing of some corporate expenses during the first quarter. Demand for our products remained resilient and we saw overall volume growth in North America and the Asia Pacific region, while volumes in Europe were marginally lower than last year. There was also good leverage through the bottom line, which was enhanced even further by favorable operating cost performance. 7% of the EPS growth came from synergies resulting from the Bemis acquisition. We delivered an incremental $20,000,000 in cost synergies during the period and we're well on track for the full year. And third, the remaining 4% of the EPS growth came from the benefits of the share buyback that we completed in the last fiscal year. Free cash flow was also in line with our expectations and the business continued to make good progress on working capital and our balance sheet remains strong. The strength in the underlying business and financial position means we've also been able to increase cash returns to shareholders during the quarter. Today, the Board declared a quarterly dividend of $0.01 $1.07 $5 per share, continuing our long track record of dividend growth. And we also announced plans to repurchase $150,000,000 of shares. So the key message here is Amkor had a strong start to the 2021 fiscal year with both segments delivering excellent results and building momentum. And with that, I'll hand over to Michael to provide some more color on the financial performance for the quarter and our outlook for 2021. Thanks, Ron, and hi, everyone. I'll start with some comments on the Flexibles segment on Slide six. So overall, segment volumes were 2% higher than the prior year, with particularly good growth in North America and higher volumes in Latin America and the Asia Pacific region. This was partially offset by marginally lower volumes in Europe and unfavorable pricemix in North America where, over the last quarter and relative to last year, we saw some variable demand shifts across the portfolio. A combination of higher volumes and lower price mix resulted in net sales being 1% higher than last year, excluding the unfavorable impacts of currency, the pass through of lower raw material costs and the impact from divested businesses. The adjusted EBIT for the period grew 11% in constant currency terms and margins expanded by 140 basis points. This was driven by a combination of these higher volumes, synergy benefits and strong operating cost performance, which mainly reflects productivity improvements and waste reduction. Overall, we are very happy with the performance across the flexible business, which has been significantly enhanced as a result of the Beams acquisition. Before moving to the Rigid Packaging segment, I'll provide a brief update on Beam's cost synergies on Slide seven. As Ron mentioned, we delivered an incremental 20,000,000 of synergies during the quarter, which was in line with our expectations. Our teams remain resolutely focused on achieving our goals, and we continue to see benefits accrue from flexible G and A, procurement and from the initial work we've undertaken on plant closures. The business outperformed against our initial synergy expectations last year, and we are on track to meet our objective of 50,000,000 to £70,000,000 in cost synergies for fiscal year 'twenty one. And we are well on our way to delivering £180,000,000 by the end of fiscal year 'twenty two, a milestone we remain confident of reaching. Turning to Rigid Packaging on Slide eight. In summary, the business delivered an outstanding result with organic growth driving earnings 7% higher than last year. Sales growth included a 4% increase in volumes as well as 4% pricemix benefit, which includes higher pricing to recover cost inflation in Latin America. Volume performance was strong in North America and mix was positive. Beverage volumes were up 7% compared with last year and hot fill container volumes were up 12%. There was growth across most beverage segments on higher consumption of packaged beverage products and the launch of innovative new products in PET containers. Specialty container volumes were also higher as a result of continued growth in spirits, personal care and home cleansing categories. As a partial offset, volumes were lower with 3% lower in Latin America, and whilst represents a sequential improvement, performance continues to be mixed by country. As I mentioned, adjusted EBIT for the period grew 7% in constant currency terms. This reflects higher volumes, favorable mix and lower plant operating costs. This was partly offset by lower fixed cost absorption related to a demand driven drawdown of inventories in North America. So overall, we are really happy with the commercial and cost performance of the business during the quarter and believe we are very well positioned for continued growth. Moving to cash, balance sheet and currency on Slide nine. Adjusted free cash outflow of £119,000,000 was broadly in line with the prior year and within our expectations for the period. As a reminder, our cash flow is seasonally weaker in the first half of the fiscal year, and this quarter also includes approximately £50,000,000 of U. S. Cash tax payments that were deferred from Q4 in 2020. We remain focused on improving working capital management. And as you can see, momentum continued this quarter with our rolling twelve months average working capital to sales ratio at 8.8%, down from 9.5% at the June just past and ten point seven percent when we completed the Bemis acquisition back in June 2019. We continue to have a strong BBB, Baa2 investment grade balance sheet and leverage stands at 3x on a trailing twelve month EBITDA basis, which is in line with the expectations for this time of the year. We have no material refinancing over the next twelve months. And with this strong financial profile, Bancorp continues to have significant capacity and flexibility to invest in many growth opportunities available to us. We've also highlighted our currency mix and the impact from currency movements in Q1 on this slide. While the net translation impact of currency movements was unfavorable during you can see it's been a result of significant depreciation in our basket of approximately 20 different currencies, which began to depreciate through the second half of last year, being partly offset by strength in the euro in the quarter. Which brings me to our outlook for the 2021 fiscal year on Slide 10. Today, have increased our guidance for constant currency EPS growth to a range of 7% to 12%, and we continue to expect adjusted free cash flow of approximately 1,000,000,000 to 1,100,000,000.0 The strong start to the year and the momentum we see in the business are the two factors which have given us the confidence to raise our 2021 full year guidance. We expect the business to continue demonstrating resilience as a supplier for essential consumer goods, but we're also maintaining a reasonably wide range of outcomes for the remaining nine months of our fiscal year, which is appropriate given the ongoing uncertainty and complexity related to the COVID-nineteen pandemic. So in summary for me today, the business is performing well. Organic growth is strong, synergy delivery is on track, our financial profile remains solid, and we are positioned to deliver another year of EPS growth in fiscal year 'twenty one, which is ahead of our original expectations. So with that, I'll hand back to you, Ram. Thanks, Michael. Just picking up on Slide 11. Many of you will be aware Amcor hosted an investor briefing a few weeks ago, and this was an opportunity for several members of our management team to provide an overview of the company and to highlight our growth opportunities. And the materials from that briefing are available on our website, so I'd encourage anyone interested in learning more about Amcor to have a look. But the main theme of the event really was to outline our investment case, why invest in Amcor. And before turning to the Q and A, I'll just take a couple of minutes to reiterate and reaffirm those key messages that we used to answer that question, and these are shown on Slide 11. To start with, we're a global industry leader with a one hundred and sixty year history, strong track record of performance and a clear strategy going forward. Organic growth has been very consistent as a supplier to stable end markets, and we have several levers to pull to continue to grow, including product innovation and capitalizing on our leadership positions in faster growing emerging markets. Our dividend remains compelling and currently yields greater than 4%, and that dividend will continue to grow. We have a strong investment grade balance sheet with substantial capacity to invest and no shortage of opportunities. And lastly, we have momentum right now, which is very clear in the results delivered today, and we expect this to continue as we realize further synergy benefits and organic growth. So collectively, these drivers have resulted in 10% to 15% of shareholder value each year, that's EPS growth and dividend yield, and we expect that to continue. The way to look at this return is through our shareholder value creation framework on Slide 12. We generate strong cash flow from relatively defensive end markets, and we redeploy that cash flow in the way shown on the slide here. Through a combination of reinvestment in the business, M and A and share repurchases, we'd expect to generate 5% to 10% constant currency EPS growth. And our dividend is growing and has historically yielded between 45%, continues to be especially compelling in such a low interest rate environment. So again, when you add these components together, the outcome has resulted over the last six or so years in annual shareholder value of 10% to 15%, and we're very well positioned to continue that trend. One of the reasons we remain confident in that model that I just referred to is because of our sustainability agenda. And we believe, without question, the sustainability will be the biggest organic growth opportunity in the business over time. It's part of our winning aspiration and our best opportunity to differentiate and it's our best opportunity for competitive advantage and ultimately to create shareholder value. We've developed a reasonably well informed perspective over the years on the topic of sustainability, and we believe we're uniquely positioned to leverage our scale and resources to help address growing consumer concerns about both climate change and waste. And we believe the best answer to addressing those consumer needs and sustainability concerns is responsible packaging, by which we mean a system based solution across three elements: first, packaging design, accounts for the full environmental impact, including the carbon footprint through the full product lifecycle. This would include packaging made from recyclable or compostable structures, packaging made with recycled material, packaging made with less material in the first place or reusable packaging. Second, the right waste management infrastructure, whether it's recycling or composting facilities or returnable systems to enable the packaging to stay out of the environment. And lastly, consumer participation to properly reuse or dispose packaging after its use. Amcor already offers a full range of responsible packaging options today, including packaging made from 100% recycled material or compostable packaging and packaging made from bio based materials, And we're continuing to make meaningful progress, leading the way in defining and developing the innovative, more sustainable solutions our customers want and their consumers expect. A great example of a differentiated breakthrough innovation from Amcor is the Anlite HeatFlex product for retort, which we launched a few weeks ago. This is the world's first fully recyclable retort pouch, which Nestle has introduced into the market for wet pet food. And there's a wide range of end market applications for this multilayer structure, and we're really excited about the demand potential for this product over time. In summary, on Slide 16, Amkor has delivered an outstanding first quarter results with both the Flexibles and Rigid Packaging segments delivering strong organic growth and building momentum. On the basis of the strong start, we've raised our outlook for fiscal twenty twenty one. We've increased the dividend and we'll buy back shares. And finally, the EMCOR investment case has never been stronger. With resilient organic growth, further acquisition cost synergies, substantial capacity to invest in growth to grow the business and to maintain an attractive dividend. With that, operator, we'll open up the line for Q and A. Your first question comes from the line of Anthony Pettinari with Citi. Hi. On full year guidance, could you talk a little more about the drivers of the raise? Is it fair to say that improved expectations around organic growth is the primary driver? Or are there others that you'd highlight? And then when you think about pricemix for the year, are you thinking about that as a positive, neutral, negative? Kind of any color you can give there? Yes. So I'll take the question on the guidance. So look, the increase in the guidance really just reflects the increase in the performance in the first quarter, which was ahead of our expectations. So we had we were pleased with the performance on that front. In terms of the balance of the year, there's no real change in the range of outcomes that we anticipated back in August to what we see today. And so really, the key driver was that was the Q1 performance. Clearly, we've got good momentum in the business, and we're comfortable with where it's heading. So that gave us some confidence to raise the guidance. Okay. That's helpful. And then with regards to the mid single digit volume growth in North American flexibles, do you feel like you're growing faster than the market? Was there any kind of comp issues that you'd flag to the extent that you're seeing maybe higher level of demand in CPG categories? Do view that as maybe sustainable? I'm just wondering if you kind of frame the relative strength in North American flexibles because it's a bit better than what the business has done historically and I think what some of your peers are doing. Yes. I'll take that one, Anthony. Look, first of all, where was the strength in North America in Flexibles? It was in some of the real important segments for us going forward. So meat, cheese, pet food, these are all high value added segments back to your question on mix. We also had growth in Home and Personal Care, is important as well. Would say that our growth, generally speaking, is relatively consistent with some of peers and customers that we track. But I do think that we're performing very well and not missing any opportunities to pick up business along the way. So look, we would expect the business over time to grow roughly with the market as we try to manage mix and optimize mix over time. That's low single digit growth. That's what the expectation would be. Okay. That's helpful. I'll turn it over. Your next question is from Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. Hi, everybody. Just as a follow-up to Anthony's last question, again, back to North American flexibles. Was the trend line of mid single digit growth pretty consistent during the quarter? Are you seeing comparable momentum going into your second quarter? And then you called out unfavorable mix for the region. Can you also expand on that? I assume it's partly health care weakness, but any color there would be helpful. Thanks. Yes. Look, I think generally speaking, month to month, week to week volatility is still pretty high relative to historical patterns. I mean, we look at generally across Amkor, and this would apply to North America too, we had a stronger July, a weaker August, probably a stronger September. It's a little early to talk about the second quarter, but things haven't really changed dramatically. So I'd say where we ended at mid single digits is pretty indicative of the exit run rate, if you will. And then on the unfavorable mix comment, yes, you picked up on the comment on Healthcare. Healthcare volumes in North America are more weighted towards Medical than Pharmaceutical, and Medical sales have been slow. And a lot of that material goes into the operating theater for elective procedures or just general health care consumption that's sometimes a bit more discretionary. So we're not really surprised to see that, but that's a negative mix impact for us. Okay. And then second question, for the in terms of your outlook for resin and just raw material prices more broadly, specific 2Q and possibly 3Q, there have been some substantial resin increases that have been implemented, for example, in North America, less so in Europe. And also freight has picked up, lot of your peers are calling that out in terms of incremental costs. So just help us think through the margin paradigm for North America, excluding the Bema synergies, of course, is very specific to you. Yes. Look, maybe I'll just take the freight part. That's the easier one. Freight most freight is passed through to the customer in this business. And so that's really a pretty benign input cost for us. So I wouldn't expect much material impact on freight in any parts of our business. Raw materials is obviously a big part of the cost of sales. It's 50% to 60% depending on the business of the sales line. And no question, we've seen relatively strong increases in several categories, particularly in North America. The outlook is for moderation of those increases and more stability going forward. So we could have a little bit of a lag impact in the quarter coming, the second quarter, but nothing that we would project to be material for the full year. And we factored in our outlook on raws around the world into the upgraded guidance today. Thanks so much, Ryan. Thanks. Your next question is from Jon Petrel with Macquarie. Day, Ron and Michael. Hey, John. Just had a couple of questions. Thank you. Look, just in terms of emerging markets, looks like sort of things are starting to, particularly in Asia, starting to get back to traditional growth rates thereafter some challenges. Obviously, you sort of saw some decent growth in Asia and also in LatAm. Just in terms of the drivers of that, Ron? Yes. Look, it's a good pickup. We're pretty excited about the growth, particularly in Asia. China seems to be tracking along at kind of mid single digits. And India, which is a smaller base, is up in the double digits. I think we're performing well in the market. I certainly don't think we're getting any help from the market. Those businesses, especially India, still those economies are still somewhat constrained a bit by COVID. And in Southeast Asia, in particular, some of the smaller businesses for us are continue to be constrained from COVID impacts. But generally speaking, I think we're executing well. I think the value proposition in those markets for Amkor as a blue chip global supplier with good technology, good business practices, product safety and all the things that have helped us grow over the last several decades, I think, are true as much today as ever. And I think we're executing well. And just in Europe, obviously, saw marginally lower volumes there. Just to sort of understand the drivers of that, was health care also a factor there? You also talked to lower closure volumes? Yes. Look, again, pretty consistent with the peers and the customers that we track in that part of the world. Healthcare, a bit soft for the reasons that I referred to in North America. Same applies in Europe. Closure businesses or the capsules business there is really levered to the champagne and spirits and wine segments, which have been a bit soft. Nothing particularly out of the ordinary, but just for the ninety day period, softer volumes in some of those segments. Okay. So would you have an expectation that some of this starts to sort of normalize through the course of the year? It's probably hard to call, but do you see some of this as sort of there's a little bit of cyclicality there? Look, I think it's a short period of time, and part of it is the summer months, which are hard to read. What's very encouraging about our European business is the offset of mix because of the growth in the higher margin segments. So we had really strong growth in cheese, snacks, pet food, ready meals. And so those segments offer accretive mix benefits to us and we did a positive mix in Europe benefiting the bottom line in the quarter. Got it. Just last one if I can. In terms of the buyback, is there anything to read into that as far as less M and A opportunities in the near term, because you mean multiples are still pretty full? No, no, definitely not. I mean multiples are certainly full. That's a separate topic. We'd expect us to be acquisitive, but we monetized investment we had and realized some proceeds and we've simply redeployed those proceeds or simply announced an intention to redeploy those proceeds into share repurchases. Got it. Thank you. Thanks, John. Your next question is from Salvator Tiano with Seaport Global. Yes. Hi, Ron, Michael, Tracy. So first thing I wanted to clarify is if you can provide a little more color on the beverage strength. And in North America, the volume growth you saw was very strong. I would have thought that even with lockdown season, people are not going out as much. And I know a lot of the beverages, the beverage packaging you make is for on the go consumption. So was there some inventory restocking there, some pent up demand from the prior quarter? Generally, color would be very helpful. Yes. Look, business did have a good quarter. It's had volume growth like that before, so it's not unprecedented. But it certainly was strong. I mean, I think longer term, we would expect low single digit growth across that beverage space. That's what we've been seeing for a number of years, and that's what we're expecting to continue. I would say we benefited from good customer mix. Some of our hot fill business in particular grew quite well on the back of some strength from particular customers. And has there been any inventory restocking? It's possible. I don't know that that would be a material driver. When we look at retail sales in period against our sales by segment, we see close match. It is possible there's a bit of inventory in there though because that number in hot fill of 12% is not what we would typically expect, although it's not unprecedented. Yes. Okay, perfect. And my second question is a little bit on the M and A front. During the Investor Day also, you said you are looking actively, obviously, your leverage allows that and you're over one year into the BINS acquisition. I was wondering, would you consider expanding into areas beyond the traditional plastics? And I know it's a bit unusual given that you did span out everything for Aurora, but you did talk a lot about paper, for example. So does something in the folding hardsome space make sense to you at this point? First of all, yes, we are on the lookout for acquisitions, and we have been acquisitive over the journey. I think we've done 25 or 30 deals in the last ten years. The priority, just to be crystal clear, is to complete the integration of Demis in the Flexibles businesses, which is a substantial part of Amcor. We're about sixteen, seventeen months into that, and we're not the current victory yet. That's the first priority. But we will keep our eyes out for deals. I wouldn't expect us to go outside of our current segment participation, our segment mix. To the extent that we can build out the flexibles portfolio in Asia and bolt on in some of the bigger markets, the Rigid business in North America outside of beverage is a place that we find pretty attractive and we've been on the diversification path of our Rigid business for the last five, seven years. So I'd like to be more active there. But I think the big constraint is likely to be valuations. Valuations are quite high. And that doesn't seem to be abating. So we'll continue to be on the lookout and we'll be active. We have the balance sheet as you suggested. We'll have the management bandwidth in flexibles. I would say we have it already in Rigids and we hope to be active. Thank you very much. Thank you. Your next question is from Brook Campbell with JPMorgan. Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I just had one around the targeted synergies there for this financial year. There's a range there. Just trying to understand the buckets of cost to sort of explain that range. And I'm trying to understand really what needs to happen to get to the top end there for FY 'twenty one. Look, it's Ron. Let me try and I think I'm not sure I heard the question completely, but let me see if I've gotten it. So question was about synergies this year, the composition of the synergy benefits and what would it take to get to the upper end of the range, I think. The range for the year is 50,000,000 to $70,000,000 of benefit. We've hit 20,000,000 in the first quarter, so a little bit ahead, I guess, of the pace. The composition through the quarter is a bit balanced between continued G and A reductions and procurement and a little bit of footprint. If we look out over the remainder of the financial year, we would expect we went into the year expecting footprint to be a bigger component of that 50,000,000 to 70,000,000 And so that often is the footprint initiatives will often be dependent on our ability to execute and get to the sites that need to be rationalized, get OEMs and contractors and technicians out to those sites. And some of those things can be impeded with mobility restrictions and other implications of COVID. So we've been a bit cautious with regard to that source of synergies. And for us to get to the top end of that range will require us to be able to execute unimpeded some of the footprint initiatives. That's very clear. And then my second question, just on I might have missed this in the release, any sort of guidance you can provide on corporate expense and interest for the full FY 'twenty one period would be great. Hi, Brook, it's Michael here. Look, we're not giving any specific guidance on those items. We gave they're kind of all covered in the EPS range that we put out there. I guess what I can tell you is if there was something materially different, we'd let you know. But I think so corporate expenses, we're on track and will be similar to prior year, perhaps a little higher. Interest, I think you've to look at interest and tax on a combined basis. You saw in the quarter, we had some interest benefit there year on year with an offset in tax. And that's going to be similar as we head our way through the year. So you'd expect that on an absolute basis, the spend in interest and taxes is going to be similar and perhaps slightly higher than prior year. But I guess, overall, that's all factored into our EPS guidance range. Your next question is from George Staphos with Bank of America. Hi, everyone. Good day. Thanks for all the details. I wanted to drill into Rigid Packaging a little bit, if we can go back to Slide eight, guys. And so you mentioned very strong volumes in North American Bev, hot fill up 12%, specialty up. You mentioned good mix. The volume growth and the mix considerations you mentioned would have normally led me to believe you'd see a bit more incremental volume or excuse me, incremental margin 1Q versus 1Q. I think you said there were some absorption issues as well. Can you help me go from what was real good volume and good mix to 4% EBIT growth at the reported level? And then I had a follow on. Yes. Look, first of all, the EBIT growth, as we were looking at it, was 7% off the 4% volume. I mean, simply stated, I mean, you pretty much called out the drivers. We had good mix in North America and good volume growth, Although the profit impact of that was tempered a bit by drawing out inventories given the strength of those volumes. So you know that when you pull out of inventory, you've got a bit of a negative impact there. I would say that that normalizes over time. How much was that inventory factor, if you could comment to that? George, I mean, in the grand scheme of the whole financial year, not material. It's just it would have held back the growth a couple of percentage points potentially. And then you have to remember, we also had negative volume growth in Latin America. We were down 3%. So those are the building blocks. The headline here, though, is this business performing really well. It's very healthy and it's growing in the right segments. Okay. Appreciate that. My other question is on sustainability and kind of a two parter, if I could, I'll turn it over. First of all, from the work that you've done, what do you think or what are your customers telling you is most resonating with the consumer in terms of sustainability? Is it footprint? Is it recyclability? Is it lightweighting? I know it's going be all of the above, but if you had pick one thing that right now is most resonating with the consumer, what is on sustainability? And on the mLIGHT, when that comes back it's end of life story, what is that what's occurring? Is that going back into polypropylene recycling structure? How is that ultimately recycled on a positive? Thanks, guys, and good luck in the quarter. Yes. Thanks, George. Look, that's two really good questions. The first one is an excellent question because I think we got to remember that the consumer ultimately has a massive role to play in this. They've got to participate at the end, whether it's reusing something or composting it or recycling it. And there's a lot of there's an expansive narrative in the space that covers a lot of different things. What seems pretty clear to us and to our customers, and we have good insights here through a number of the organizations and associations that we sit side by side with the big brand owners on, that the consumer gravitates more towards recycling. And I think it's because it's the easiest thing for the consumer to get their head around. The idea to recycle something, if the infrastructure exists, is the easiest thing for the consumer to embrace. Composting can have a place, but that also requires infrastructure, which is just less ubiquitous around the world and is a little complicated if you think about the science of it. And the reuse systems, while they have a place and they'll have a role and there's a lot of buzz about some of those reusable systems, we've not seen and we've done a bit of research primary research on this ourselves, we've not seen lots of consumer take up at scale on reusable systems. And I know that's not doesn't make us popular necessarily with some of the rhetoric from the NGOs, but I think it's the reality. And if we want a better outcome here, we need to embrace what the consumer is interested in adopting. So that would be the long answer to a short question. We would say its recyclability is the outcome that resonates most with the consumer. On AMOLITE HEAT FLEX, really quickly, that's a multilayered structure, which is constructed with basically the same base polymers, which allow it to be consistent which are consistent and allow it to be compatible with the polyolefin recycling stream that exists in places in Europe where that pouch has hit the market. So hopefully that answers the question on AMOLED. And your next question is from Richard Johnson with Jefferies. Thank you very much. Just a quick one to start with. Michael, could you clarify whether any of the £20,000,000 incremental synergy was in the corporate line, please? No, it was all in flexibles, Richard. Fantastic. And then just on the topic of restructuring. If I look at your adjusted reconciliation table for adjusted EBIT and I look at the material restructuring and related costs, I was just wondering if you could just clarify whether the number in Flexible has all been misrelated? And then talk a little bit around what's going on in on Rigid Packaging because that number has already gone up a lot year on year. And I'm just interested to know as well whether there's any footprint reduction across the group that's outside of the two effective restructuring programs we know about, which has obviously been the synergies and the Richard's restructuring? Yes. So I can take that one, Richard. So under flexibles, yes, that's all Bemis things related. Under rigid packaging, yes, I mean, it's just a timing point around some of the actions we've taken relating to some of the G and A and the plant work that we've been doing. So we'll finish that program this year. We've only got really one site left to close on that front. So that will be finished this year with full run rate by the end of the year as we exit the year. So that's covered off. And then the And then Yes, we just had one we had one plant closure during the period, which we took in the EBIT line. It was about $9,000,000 of cost, which is in the result. And what was that? It's a plant in Switzerland. Fantastic. Great. Thanks very much. Your next question is from Mark Wilde with Bank of Montreal. Hi, Ron. Hi, Mike. Hey there, Mark. First question, I wondered if you could just give us a little color on the strength that you had called out in the specialty carton business this quarter. And kind of related to that, whether tobacco packaging is an issue at all any of the ESG investors? Yes. Look, the business in specialty currencies had a really good first quarter. Volumes were essentially flat. We had some strength in The Americas, as we highlighted, some softness in Asia and Southeast Asia in particular, flat in Europe. So all up, a pretty good top line and the business has executed really, really well, continues to drive cost out and optimize its operations. So we're pleased with that business. It's a good margin business, big cash generator, and it's got a leadership position in each of the markets around the world. The second part of the question, the short answer is no. I think investors realize we're not actually in that end market. We're printing the carton board and shaping it and then it gets filled with a product that sometimes creates issues from an ESG perspective. But we're not an active participant in that end market any more than the bank who finances those companies and those customers is an active participant. So short answer on the ESG related point is no, no issue. Okay. And then I wanted to just toggle over to Brazil. That was a big business for Bemis historically. We've seen in a number of other packaging products a pretty marked pickup over the last two or three months. It sounds like you didn't get any of that in the first quarter. But I wonder if you're seeing any pickup right now in Brazil. Yes. Look, we actually had a good quarter in Brazil. We had higher volumes in rigid packaging Brazil. And our flexible business our core flexible business in Brazil and flexibles grew as well. Now the offset somewhat was we have a disposable business there, which is one of the old Dixie Toga businesses. And that's really impaired because there's no foodservice and there's not much action happening from a disposables perspective. These are paper plates, paper poly plates and cups and things. So there was some softness there is softness continuing in that segment in Brazil. But the core of what we're going to do there long term, packaging and flexibles and thermal forming, has grown and did grow in the quarter. Okay. And then if I could just slip one other thing in here. You raised guidance. I think you held the free cash flow number for the year. Any thought to being able to bump that up at all? Look, it's Michael here. The free cash flow number has a reasonable range in it. So it's $1,000,000,000 to 1,100,000,000.0 The guidance increase really fits within that range. So we've kind of left it for there for the moment. If we think that's going to change over the year, we'll update you as we progress through it. Our next question is from Larry Gandler with Credit Suisse. Ron, my question is about synergy, first one. Encore being as constructive and proactive company as it is, is it possible to think that as you guys close the Bemis deal after you went to your largest customers in North America. Of course, happens. Hang on a second. Can you hear me, Ron? Yes. No problem. Sorry about that. So you would have gone to your largest customers in North America and said, look, we have some gross synergy that will develop out of the merger. Can we work an arrangement where we share some of this synergy, but it's a win win, we get a larger part of your business? And if those sort of conversations happen with your larger customers, very persistent, can you kind of maybe describe some of that and how that's influencing these more recent results? I'm going put my phone out the window in a second. Yes. No, that's all right. Yes. Look, I don't know that we're seeing material impact on our top line yet from those discussions. But there's no question that there's good things happening from a commercial perspective that are coming from this acquisition. The most obvious is the ability to engage with some of these big brand owners to help satisfy their needs around the world, not just from a supply perspective, but back to the sustainability agenda, the joint development programs we have on R and D and product development. So that started really from the beginning. There's other examples where we've been able to secure business in certain parts of the world because of strength and our value proposition in other parts of the world. So I think that will continue and the benefits will accrue over time. The other part of the commercial story for us is just leveraging the commercial capabilities that Amkor has refined over the years around margin management and mix management and layering those onto the legacy Bemis portfolio. And then taking some of the segments that we've acquired here, particularly around meat and cheese and protein packaging that's foam based and levering that across our structure, layering it across our structure around the world. We're getting more active in that regard, but that will take some time to see real top line benefits. So I'm not sure you're seeing it in this result. I'm not sure you'll see it this financial year, but I think over time we expect to have commercial benefits. It was meat that particularly piqued my curiosity because you do seem to be bucking the performance of many companies participating in that space. Even Kraft Heinz, your largest customer in the first quarter, called out, I think, weaker meat volumes. You have COVID impacting that sector with difficulty to get people to avatars, labor to avatars. So you do seem to be talking the performance. Look, think in that segment, you're right. There is some disruption in the supply chain there and some of the meat packing plants have been constrained a little bit. But despite that, I think we're performing pretty well, probably be taking some share and probably outgrowing the market in that space as we believe we should do. We've got great products. And that's not related to sort of constructive conversations with customers around sharing energy? All of our conversations are constructive, but it's just on the back of the value proposition that starts with the product. Okay, great. And a financial question for Michael. Just on Ambig, there's some associate income or equity accounted income reported. Is that AMVIG? And will that zero out for the rest of the financial year? That's exactly right, Larry. Yes. So we had £3,000,000 for the first quarter, and now from that one, it will be 0 versus the prior year where we had £11,000,000 for the full year. I think the equity accounted on was £19,000,000 in the quarter. Yes. That includes the gain on sale. So the underlying, which we SI'd out, if you look at the table with the adjustments that gain on sale was taken out of the result. So it was just the base £3,000,000 that was in the base result. Your next question is from Keith Chow with MST Marquee. Just going back to interest cost, Michael, the full year. I think at the full year result, you called out interest expenses weren't going to change materially for the year. I think at the time, you made mention of the $500,000,000 bond rollover at a higher cost and then lower interest rates balancing out to a net kind of similar outcome for this year. Seemingly, the first quarter net interest expense was significantly lower than the first quarter of last year and also the fourth quarter of last year as well, notwithstanding a high net debt balance. So I'm just wondering, the guidance this year, know you spoke about it earlier today, I just want to dig into that a little bit further and just trying to work out what the order of magnitude and change could be at the interest line going forward, please? Yes. As I said, I mean, we're not going to call out numbers specifically. Clearly, in interest, we had some benefit during the period, continued low interest rates. So this quarter versus this time last year, I mean, it's a 200 basis point reduction in LIBOR. And we're still getting really good access to commercial paper, both in The U. S. And Europe. So we've had quite a strong benefit there in the period, more pronounced than it will be for the rest of the year because interest rates started to come down this time last year and progress through the year. That said, look, we will have a lower interest number, but you've got to look at that interest number in line with tax as well. And the offset clearly, we saw an offset, and we've seen increased tax in absolute terms and ETR. So as I said earlier, we will see some lower interest now at the full year, but the offset will be taxed. So we're going to have a higher tax bill just based on higher earnings and perhaps a slightly higher ETR as well. So when you put all that together, net net, you add those two together in absolute terms, they're to be pretty similar to the number last year. Okay. Okay. Fantastic. Perhaps maybe if we look at first quarter to fourth quarter last year because rates, albeit, have gone down, but not as much as kind of the first quarter versus first quarter last year. The $45,000,000 in the interest in the fourth quarter last year, playing the 37,000,000 for the first quarter, is there any kind of timing issues there that we should be thinking about for quarter on quarter basis? There were some additional costs we had just on some of the bonds and the like in that period. But I think overall, the interest bill will converge as we head through the year. Okay. Excellent. And then the second one, just a very quick one, on Bemis synergies. Can you give us some guidance as to whether there will be some Bemis synergies allocated to corporate for the full year? Keith, it's Ron. It's unlikely. Most of the synergies in corporate were executed very, very early on post close. And so we were for all intents and purposes, all the synergies this year will be in the flexible segment. Okay, great. Thanks very much, James. Thanks, Keith. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Ron for closing remarks. Okay. Thanks, operator, and thanks, everyone, for joining the call. And I think we'll close it there. Thank you.