Thank you for standing by. Good day, everyone, and welcome to The Boeing Company's first quarter 2015 earnings conference call. Today's call is being recorded. The management discussion and slide presentation, plus the analyst and media question and answer sessions are being broadcast live over the internet. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I'm turning the call over to Mr. Troy Lahr, Vice President of Investor Relations for The Boeing Company. Mr. Lahr, please go ahead.
Thank you, and good morning. Welcome to Boeing's first quarter 2015 earnings call. I'm Troy Lahr, and with me today are Jim McNerney, Boeing's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Greg Smith, Boeing's Chief Financial Officer. After comments by Jim and Greg, we'll take your questions. In fairness to others on the call, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question. As always, we've provided detailed financial information in today's press release, and you can follow this broadcast and slide presentation through our website at boeing.com. Before we begin, I need to remind you that any projections and goals included in our discussion this morning are likely to involve risk, which is detailed in our news release, in our various SEC filings, and in the forward-looking statement disclaimer at the end of this web presentation.
In addition, we refer you to our earnings release and presentation for disclosures and reconciliation of non-GAAP measures that we use when discussing our results and outlook. Now, I'll turn the call over to Jim McNerney.
Thank you, Troy, and good morning, everybody. My comments today will focus on our positive first quarter performance and what we see as a continued healthy business environment. After that, Greg will walk you through the details of our financial results and outlook. Now, let's move to slide two, please. Building on the strong performance trend we sustained through 2014, Boeing delivered solid first quarter 2015 financial results, including higher revenue, healthy core operating margins, and double-digit growth in core earnings per share. We also continued to return cash to shareholders in the first quarter by repurchasing $2.5 billion of Boeing stock and increasing our dividend, as promised, by 25%, for a payout of $639 million. Revenue at Boeing Commercial Airplanes increased 21% to $15.4 billion, and operating margins were 10.5%. We delivered 184 commercial airplanes in the quarter and added 110 net new orders.
Key milestones in the quarter included delivery of the first 787-9 built at Boeing South Carolina, the opening of our South Carolina propulsion systems facility, and startup of an automated wing panel assembly on the 737 program in Renton. Boeing Defense, Space & Security reported revenue in the first quarter of $6.7 billion and generated strong operating margins of 11.1%. Key contract awards included orders for 43 AH-64E Apache helicopters, a multiyear combat logistics support contract, and an order from SES for an all-electric 702SP satellite. In addition, the U.S. Air Force selected the 747-8 as the next presidential aircraft.
Noteworthy program milestones in the quarter included launching the first two all-electric propulsion satellites, double-stacked on a single rocket, and breaking ground on the crew access tower, which will support the Commercial Crew Program, and replicating a best practice for bolstering performance on development programs by establishing a single, unified defense and space development programs organization. Our success with a similar structure put in place at commercial airplanes, starting with the development of the 787-9, shows that we can leverage synergies and expertise across different development programs to reduce cost and risk and better ensure performance as promised to our customers. This new organization will oversee current and future development efforts, including work on the KC-46 tanker, the 747-8 presidential aircraft, our commercial crew spacecraft, and Space Launch System rocket, the 502 small satellite, and our St. Louis-based 777X work package.
In summary, we delivered another strong quarter of operating performance, achieved significant program milestones, captured orders totaling $15 billion, and returned significant cash to shareholders, all of which Greg will cover in more detail in a moment. With that, let's turn to the business environment on slide three. Strong airline profitability, healthy global air traffic trends, and our backlog totaling more than 5,700 aircraft all combine to underpin our planned production rate increases over the remainder of the decade. Our long-term outlook also remains positive, as we expect airline fleet growth and replacement demand to drive the need for nearly 37,000 commercial aircraft over the next 20 years. As evidenced by the healthy pace of orders during the first quarter, conversations with our airline customers continue to center on new purchases or accelerating delivery slots. Deferral requests are still running well below the historical average.
These remain very good times for our industry. As I mentioned on last quarter's call, historically, airplane orders are highly correlated to airline profitability, and lower oil prices have not fundamentally changed our customers' views Fleet planning or their commitment to existing delivery schedules. The rapid return on investment from new, more efficient airplanes remains a compelling factor in purchase decisions in a fuel price environment, even if it remains well below the 15-year average. As a reminder, in addition to far better fuel efficiency and lower maintenance costs, our new technologically advanced airplanes also often deliver higher passenger and cargo revenue, increased residual values, a better overall passenger experience, and greater range that grows market opportunities by allowing for new city pairs and more optimal routes. All of these elements provide significant value to our customers over the life of the aircraft.
Further to those points, demand for both the 777 and the 777X remains strong. The 777 production line is essentially sold out for 2016, approximately half sold out in 2017, and has a healthy number of slots already sold firm in 2018. As we've discussed before, the new 777X is scheduled to enter final assembly in the 2018 timeframe and will leverage new manufacturing processes and technologies being proven on the current 777 to optimize the overall 777X production system. We will continue to assess the most efficient way to phase in this new technology and adapt as necessary to ensure we meet our customers' commitments. On the 787 program, we have now delivered more than 250 airplanes, including 20 787-9s. Notable among the strong new bookings during the quarter was ANA's order for three 787-10s. 787-10 development remains on track for first delivery in 2018.
In the single-aisle segment, demand for our new fuel-efficient 737 MAX also remains high, with cumulative orders totaling more than 2,700 airplanes from 57 customers. Development of the MAX remains on track for first delivery in 2017. Turning to defense, space, and security, we continue to see solid support for our major programs. The president's fiscal 2016 budget request included increases for core Boeing production programs such as P-8A Poseidon, Apache, and Chinook helicopters. Key development programs such as Tanker, Long Range Strike, and Commercial Crew also saw budget increases. International demand for our offerings remains strong, particularly in the Middle East and the Asia Pacific region. During the first quarter, international customers for defense, space, and security represented 23% of revenue and 37% of our current backlog.
Our investments in technology and innovation for organic growth continue in areas such as commercial derivatives, space, unmanned systems, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, and the few critical future franchise programs like Long Range Strike and the T-X trainer, which are priorities for our customers. The relative strength of our defense, space, and security business stems from a portfolio that is reliable, proven, and affordable, supported by our ongoing market-based affordability initiative, which is focused on reducing operating costs by another $1 billion on top of the $5 billion already achieved, which will ensure competitiveness through the ongoing downturn in domestic defense spending.
Overall, our business strategies are aligned to the realities and the opportunities of our markets, and our teams are executing them well to deliver increased top-line and bottom-line performance, support the needs of our customers, and capture new business to sustain our growth and profitability for the decades to come. Now, over to Greg for our financial results and our updated guidance. Greg?
Thanks, Jim, and good morning. Let's turn to slide four and we'll discuss our first quarter results. First quarter revenue increased 8% to $22.1 billion, driven by strong commercial airplane deliveries. Core earnings per share for the quarter increased 12% to $1.97, driven on higher commercial airplane volume and continued strong operating performance. Let's now discuss commercial airplanes on slide five. For the first quarter, our commercial airplanes business increased revenue 21% to $15.4 billion on 184 airplane deliveries and reported operating margins of 10.5%. Strong operating margins in the quarter were primarily driven by higher volume, continued focus on productivity, and program mix. Commercial airplanes captured $9.8 billion in net orders during the first quarter, backlog remains very strong at $435 billion and over 5,700 aircraft, equating to approximately eight years of production.
Specifically on the 787 program, we continue to expect the program to be cash positive during 2015, we still anticipate deferred production to decline shortly after we achieve the 12-per-month production rate in 2016. No change to these fundamental milestones. We continue to see progress in key operational performance indicators for the 787 program as we further implement production efficiencies while meaningfully increasing the 787-9 production and managing through some near-term disruption in supply chain, largely around cabin interiors. Despite these challenges, with a lot of hard work from the team, we delivered 30 787s in the quarter and made further progress on reducing unit costs. On the 787-8, we've seen a decline in unit cost of approximately 30% over the last 190 deliveries. Furthermore, the 787-9 unit cost declined approximately 25% over the first 20 deliveries.
In line with our expectations and at a declining rate, 787 deferred production increased $793 million to $27 billion in the first quarter. As we previously discussed, we continue to anticipate 787 deferred production to grow at similar levels for the next couple of quarters before seeing a healthy decline in the growth later in this year. We remain focused on the solid day-to-day execution, risk reduction, and improving the long-term productivity and cash flow going forward. We continue to manage the smooth ramp of the 787-9 production, prepare for the 12 rate per month introduction of the -10, while also driving efficiencies across all aspects of the program. Let's turn now to Boeing Defense, Space & Security results on slide six. First quarter revenue at our defense business was $6.7 billion, operating margins were strong at 11.1%, largely driven by solid performance and favorable mix.
Boeing Military Aircraft first quarter revenue declined to $2.7 billion, primarily driven by planned timing of C-17 and F-15 deliveries. Operating margins of 9.5% reflect delivery mix that offset improved operating performance. Network & Space Systems reported revenue of $1.7 billion increased operating margins to 9.6% in the quarter, resulting from higher ULA earnings. Global Services & Support revenue was $2.2 billion, operating margins increased to 14.1% on solid operating performance and favorable program mix. Boeing Defense, Space & Security reported a solid backlog of $60 billion, with 37% of our current backlog representing customers outside the United States. Next slide, please. Operating cash flow. Operating cash flow for the first quarter was approximately $100 billion, driven by solid operating performance, as expected, the timing of receipts and expenditures that were largely benefited late in Q4 of 2014.
We continue to expect 2015 operating cash flow to be more than $9 billion, with the majority of that being generated in the second half of the year. With regards to capital deployment, as Jim mentioned, we paid $639 million in dividends and repurchased 17 million shares for $2.5 billion in the first quarter, as we continue to deliver on our commitment to our shareholders. Furthermore, this reflects our ongoing confidence in the long-term outlook for our business. We continue to anticipate completing the remaining $9.5 billion repurchase authorization over the next two to three years. Returning cash to shareholders, along with continued investment to support future growth, remains top priority for us. Moving to cash and debt balances on slide eight.
We ended the quarter with $9.6 billion of cash in marketable securities. Our cash balance continues to provide solid liquidity and positions us very well going forward. Let's now turn to slide nine. I'll discuss our outlook for 2015. We are reaffirming our 2015 guidance for revenue, operating margins, core earnings, deliveries, and cash flow. Overall, we're very pleased with the first quarter performance as the core operating engine continues to deliver strong results, and we expect that performance to continue as we remain focused on production, program profitability, rate ramp-up, and ongoing productivity improvements. With that, I'll turn it back over to Jim for some closing comments.
Thank you, Greg. With a strong first quarter behind us, we remain focused on disciplined execution, quality, and productivity improvements, and meeting customer commitments. Our priorities going forward are clear and consistent. The profitable ramp-up in commercial airplane production, executing well on our development programs, driving efficiencies throughout the enterprise, continuing to strengthen our defense business, and importantly, providing increasing value to both our customers and our shareholders. Now, we'd be happy to take your questions.
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Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen.
Morning, Howard.
Morning.
Morning, Howard.
There could be a number of questions to ask, but you talk about being able to make some real progress with the Boeing 777 bridge. Could you elaborate a little bit on that? Jim, maybe talk about the quality and the characterization of the discussions you're having
I think 777, you've heard my speech before, Howard, unique airplane in terms of its capability and where it's positioned in the market. A real opportunity to manage this bridge well. So far so good. I think last year's performance was good. I think this year, where we stand now, we've got 25 orders and commitments in hand today. That's roughly half or just short of half of what we're looking for for the entire year. I mentioned the production skyline in 2016, 2017, and 2018, and it's beginning to firm up. We are increasingly confident that we can implement this bridge. It's important not only commercially and to keep the rate going, but as I mentioned in my comments, we're sort of feathering in some new technology on the current airplane, the ER, so it's tested and de-risked by the time we get to the X.
This bridge has lots of value for us, lots of value for our customers. Steady she goes.
Maybe just to follow up for a second. You talk about feathering in some of this technology, and in the press release, you talk about accelerating some of the development milestones. Are we to take that in fact, the R&D programs are, whether it's the MAX or the 10 or the X, are kind of coming in a little bit better than your current budgets?
No. What I would say is on budget, slightly ahead on de-risking. In other words, we're spending about what we had planned, but the technical advances or the reliability that we're shooting for is coming in a little bit more robustly than we'd hoped. As you recall, we've got a development organization that is 100% focused on development now, and that gives us much greater visibility and much more objectivity around these kinds of milestones.
Thank you very much.
Yep.
Our next question's from Cai von Rumohr with Cowen and Company. Please go ahead.
Yes, thank you very much. Your 787 deferreds per unit built looked like they went from $32 million in the fourth to $26 million. Maybe give us some color. This looks like better performance than we'd expected. Was this better than your performance expectations? How did the -9 and 8 do? Is the -8 now in a cash positive mode with regard to deferreds?
What I would say, Cai, when you look over that timeframe, we have seen improved performance. In particular, I noted on the -9 as they're coming down the learning curve in a very aggressive manner, I think that goes to the lessons learned off the -8 and getting those into the production system. That introduction of that airplane is going very well, as you know, that'll be close to half of our deliveries this year. That smooth introduction is important. When you look quarter-over-quarter, as you know, Cai, mix comes into play. We did have some early -9s, actually the first two coming out of Charleston. That played into the shift quarter-over-quarter. I'd say fundamentally, again, the program continues to make good improvements on unit cost.
Still got a long way to go, making good progress.
Maybe a follow-up. You'd mentioned the cabin interior disruptions.
Yeah.
What impact did that have on the 87, when do you think you'll have that behind you?
Well, I mean, Cai, we delivered 30 airplanes, which was the production rate, but it's disruptive. It added additional pressure, obviously, on deferred. You see by the growth in deferred, we were able to offset some of that through our own productivity. Certainly, it's been disruptive. There's recovery plans in place. We're part of that recovery. We're actively engaged with them, and we don't see that impacting our deliveries through the balance of the year.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Next we go to Doug Harned with Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead.
Yes, good morning.
Hi, Doug.
I'd like to just continue on that with the Boeing 787. If you look at the increases that you're seeing in deferred, as I look at the numbers for this quarter, it looks pretty much on the trajectory you described last quarter.
Yeah.
Can you parse this out into buckets? What I mean by that is things that would be one-time investments, I would say higher costs on early Boeing 787-9 deliveries, and potentially other factors related to operations or the supply chain. How would you divide this up? How much falls into each category?
I'd say roughly, Doug, it's about a third, a third, a third, breaking each one of those pieces down. Certainly, as we talked about maintaining some higher employment as we work through incorporating reliability and driving productivity initiatives, obviously getting ready to de-risk for the Boeing 787-10, the 12 a month, and the early introduction of Boeing 787-9. As you know, you've been covering this business a long time, this is about as smooth an introduction you've seen on a wide-body program, and particularly one that is at record production rates. That's attributed to really risk reduction
Focus early on in the program. Some of the supplier negotiations, as we talked about, moving some of those to the right as we get more mature on the learning curve within those suppliers. Some of the productivity initiatives, as I've highlighted, where we're really seeing opportunities to drive further value in the program over the long term, but requires some upfront investment. Those are very good business cases. Those are absolutely the right thing to do to drive long-term profitability and cash for this program, and those obviously remain a top priority for us. At the same time, we're looking for more opportunities to capture further productivity and cash that will require more investment. We're continuing to focus on that, and again, I think it's absolutely the right thing to do for the program, and again, driving long-term profitability, and that's the focus.
If I can, on a follow-up on this. On the Dash 9, in principle, this is an airplane that has higher pricing. You've done a lot of design work to lower manufacturing costs for it.
Yes.
In theory, this should be a very attractive airplane from a profitability standpoint. Can you give us a sense of when you expect the Dash 9 to become cash positive?
I don't really look at it that way, Doug. I look at it as a program as a whole, the productivity focus is not just on the Dash 9, it's across the entire value chain of Dash 8 and Dash 9. Again, on the overall profile, when you combine the Dash 8s and 9s, we expect to be cash positive during 2015. That hasn't changed. The fundamentals are more across the entire either supply chain or internally, whether it's a Dash 8, a Dash 9, or a Dash 10, where do we drive additional productivity?
Okay, thank you.
Okay.
Next, we'll go to Carter Copeland with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, Jim and Greg.
Hey.
Good morning, Carter.
Greg, I wondered if you might clarify something on the 777 for me. I'm just sort of wondering what the implications of inserting some of these productivity investments into the ER production line are on the margin front for that program. By including those in the sort of end of line ERs ahead of the 777X, does that have a negative margin impact of any significance? Secondly, how should we think about the impact of splitting the 777X into its own block and what that'll mean for overhead and non-recurring investments? Is that a material uplift in the other direction? How should we think about those impacts?
The answer to your last question is no. As far as the introduction of this, we extended the block by 50 units this quarter, that investment that we've talked about that's going to apply on the 777, eventually on the 777X, some of that cost is incorporated. Those are in our booking rates this quarter. I would tell you, a very smooth introduction. When I say that, proving out this technology outside the production system in an isolated, again, outside the mainstream production, proving it out, making it rate capable, then a smooth implementation as you're continuing to build 8.3 a month. A lot of that prove out, again, risk reduction, investment upfront, but long-term profitability in the program, doing that outside the production system. We've been doing that, and that's, I'll say, the plan to implement that into the mainstream production.
I don't view that as high risk. I think the de-risking activity has been very prudent, and if we see any issues along the way, we have a plan B or I'll say an off-ramp to continue with the current production system. I think the risk is very managed. Now, the opportunity, obviously, is reducing flow time, better quality, and ultimately, better unit cost. A very good investment for us over the long term of the 777 plus the 777X.
Was there any impact on the program margin as a result of the block extension?
Yes.
Up or down?
Slightly down.
Okay, thanks.
Keep in mind too, Carter, escalation comes into play here, that some of the productivity that came through in the booking rates, some of that was offset by escalation that impacted the booking rates across all the programs. Again, strong productivity across all the programs.
Great. Thanks, Greg.
You're welcome.
Next we go to Sam Pearlstein with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Good morning.
Morning.
I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the supply chain and the $2 billion increase in the gross inventory. We know about the seat issue. GE talked about not being able to deliver all the engines that they would've liked. I guess, to what extent did those delays impact that inventory number, and where do you see issues in the supply chain that concern you as you talk about going up to 12 a month?
Well, some of that, Sam, is just the fact that we're going up in rate. There's some of that. The disruption we've talked about, again, the team has done a fantastic job managing through that disruption, reaching back into the supply chain, and helping wherever we can help out, and there's recovery plans in place. Watch item, certainly been disruptive, but certainly not something we see impacting the deliveries for the year.
Can you tell us when in 2016 you plan to go to 12 a month?
Later in 2016.
Okay.
Okay.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
Next question's from Jason.
I'm wondering if you might spend a few minutes talking about the defense business.
Yeah.
In particular, comment on the sales efforts on the C-17, and then maybe just provide some updated thoughts on, say, the next five years in the defense business. Historically talked about this being flattish with some programs coming up and some coming down.
Yeah.
Maybe just an update there would be helpful.
I think the summary would be the outlook remains challenging, recently looking a little better as I read the political dynamics, just overall comment about the marketplace, particularly the U.S. Congress driven marketplace. To the specifics of your questions, C-17s, we've got orders and commitments that leave about five to go. We have a lot of action on those five, I think the team made the right call on when to curtail the program. You always want to curtail these things where you end up having a little more demand than you've got airplanes at the end to hold pricing and production, and that is playing out well for us.
I think, in the face of sequestration, the reason for my optimism, and it's not wild-eyed optimism, it's a matter of sort of Ryan-Murray 2.0, sort of, maybe extending the kind of budget compromise that had been fashioned a couple of years ago, another couple of years, and that may turn into a broader consensus dealing with sequestration in a balanced way. A little more optimism that that will sort out, and based on newspaper reports I've seen, Murray and Ryan are working together again, trying to come up with some kind of a budget compromise that would include the defense portion. We're well marked up in the president's budget request, more than our fair share of sort of the jump balls, I guess, is the way to put it. Our backlog remains strong.
Our profitability, because our productivity plans assume the worst, what we'd like to do is be surprised, That's the reason you're seeing strong margins, in the first quarter in our defense business, notwithstanding some timing on the deliveries, which we'll sort out by year-end. Does that give you the flavor you were looking for?
Yeah, maybe just to put a little bit finer tooth on this is, you've got risk on F-18, F-15 towards the end of the decade. You've long talked about Tanker and P-8 offsetting those declines.
Yeah.
Is that still the broad brushstroke view of the world?
I think F-18 and F-15 may have more legs to them, yet to be proven, than the last time I made that comment. A little bit more bullish there, but long term, that is the way I look at it. The only other thing I'd add to that is that there are three or four major development programs that are in play right now. Long Range Strike is one, Tanker is another one. The U CLASS is another one. There's some major programs, and if we win our market share's worth of those, or maybe a little better, that will provide some upside to the equation you mentioned.
Perfect. Thank you.
Yeah.
Our next question is from Ronald Epstein with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys.
Morning, Ron.
Just kind of thinking about it, has there been a change in policy around how you collect the PDPs, meaning with backlogs going out so far, and is it to your advantage to try to collect some of those PDPs maybe sooner, monetizing it sooner than waiting, say, eight years for those PDPs? Does that make sense?
No change, Ron. No change. What you're really just seeing is just the timing of those, as you've heard me talk about before, as you go up in rate, obviously, with the strong order book, we've seen more advances. The timing of those quarter-over-quarter, very difficult to see a trend there. You really got to look at it over a year-over-year and frankly, over a 24-month period because of the size of some of those, as well as milestone payments. Very difficult to look at quarter-over-quarter base, but no change. I would tell you as far as cash flow goes, the outlook for operating cash remains unchanged. We still see strong cash flow this year, again, greater than $9 billion. Continued growth as we come out of 2015 into 2016.
Advances are certainly a part of that, just the core operating performance and the fact that our delivery rates will continue to go up as we deliver on the 5,700 airplanes. Our view on cash flow, again, is very solid and remains unchanged.
Okay, great. If I can just follow on with just a more technical question.
Yeah.
On the 777X, I think you guys have said that the center wing box is going to be aluminum as opposed to carbon fiber. What can we read into that? With that move on that aircraft, compared to what was done on the 787.
I wouldn't read anything into it, Ron. When we go through the design of the airplane, I won't pretend to be a design engineer here, everything's taken into consideration as far as efficiency of the operating economics of the airplane and the weight.
That gets taken into consideration, maturity of technology and obviously development costs and recurring costs to build the airplane. Those are a few things that, obviously, important key factors we take into account when we're making trade-offs between one type of, I'll say, application versus another.
There was no change there.
Yeah.
That was always the plan. Yeah.
Okay, great. Cool. Thank you.
Yep.
Next we go to Myles Walton with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning.
Good morning.
Greg, you did 10.5% of BCA margins in the quarter. It looks like mix and volume would actually be modest helps for the rest of the year. Doesn't look like R&D should be much of a headwind. It sounds like the 777 kind of extension was a negative in this quarter. Other than conservatism, how do you put it to the 9%-10% guidance for the year?
Yeah, I kind of put it into three main areas, Myles. R&D, we do expect R&D to pick up a little bit in the back half with, in particular, the 777X ramping up. We'll have more dash nine deliveries, 787-9 deliveries, and then more 747s as well. That's the, I'll say, the dilutive impact for the margins going through the balance of the year. Having said that, obviously, we got everybody extremely focused on continuing good productivity, and we will through the balance of the year. It's really that mix that's driving it.
Just one clarification, you said the majority of cash in the second half, are you thinking two-thirds, or are you talking 80%?
Well, I would say, traditionally, as you know, we're back-loaded, but third and fourth quarter will be heavier than first and second quarter. Again, progress payments, milestones, and then just delivery profile.
Okay, thanks.
Our next question's from Ram Spingarn with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
Good morning.
Hey, Ram. Good morning.
I just wanted to get a clarification from Jim and then a question for Greg. Jim, on the 777, you mentioned 25 orders in commitments, but I think you printed just the seven orders in the quarter. Are these still in process, or they fall into Q2?
Well, we don't mention commitments unless things are largely done.
Okay.
Things are largely done, and there's timing considerations.
Got it.
in some cases driven by customer requirements and things. We let the customer decide when to finally approve and release. I have a very high degree of confidence in the 25 number.
Okay. Greg, on cash flow, just going back, sort of follow-up to Ron's question. You'll probably have, let's call it after-tax, a $1 billion-$2 billion tailwind on 787 deferred, and you're guiding to a flattish OC operating cash flow, somewhat flattish net income, and I know timings at work there a little bit. Given that, how should we think about the advance and physical inventory balances at the end of the year here? I imagine that there's some offset to the deferred tailwind in terms of a headwind on advances and physical inventory.
Yeah. Well, like I said, Rob, timing around advances in milestones can swing significantly quarter-over-quarter, and as you said, year-over-year. That comes into play as well as I said, delivery mix and even the way the orders are profiled through the balance of the year. Again, the outlook on cash flow for this year, unchanged, greater than $9 billion. That's what everybody's focused on generating. Again, quarter-over-quarter, you're going to see variance in there, and those elements I described are really what the big shifts in quarter-over-quarter, I'll say, fluctuation you're going to see. Nothing's changed on the cash flow, Rob, and we continue to remain extremely focused, and I think as you've seen, $2.5 billion share repurchase-
just in the quarter alone, I think should give you some idea of the confidence we have in executing to our business plan and just the overall business environment and executing on the total backlog.
Greg, just to be clear, you can do the $9 billion even if advanced balances decline?
Well, we don't anticipate any change from what we talked about when we gave guidance. Again, I see advances about flattish year-over-year.
Okay
From 2014. Those are all scheduled. We know where they're timed, and we know where they're coming from, and we have the confidence that we'll obtain all those as we normally do. I don't see any change there.
Okay, thanks, guys.
Yeah.
Our next question is from Peter Arment with Sterne Agee. Please go ahead.
Yes, good morning, Jim and Greg. Jim, a question on the, you mentioned the deferral requests continuing to run at record low rates and kind of accelerated purchases. Do you still feel confident about the bookings environment? I guess it speaks to the health of your backlog, but do you still think you can get a book-to-bill of one this year?
Yeah, I think we'll get a book-to-bill of one. When I look at the pipeline, I look at what's happened so far in the first quarter, that remains how I see it coming in. I think that's a healthy sign after a number of years at well above that. Remember, a lot of the demand out there is replacement demand, new technology, replacing old technology. We're in a technology cycle now where we're not tied to GDP growth. We are tied to very favorable replacement economics. So half our growth is replacement, half is sort of new routes, new airlines opening up, new deliveries, more tied to GDP. That's the nice thing about what innovation can do for you.
Yeah. Is there any concern about, just when you mentioned oil, that you're not seeing any pushback just related to that. Some of your leasing customers have had production rates not to go up as high as indicated. Are you worried about the capacity aspect, or is it just related to that replacement cycle?
Yeah, I think, said another way, the replacement cycle numbers still work really well with oil at current prices. Remember, we launched the 787 at roughly 20%-25% lower oil prices than we have today. Okay. We felt very confident then, and we even more so do now in a higher oil price environment from then, that this is an attractive proposition for our customer. As I said, the order trends relate more when you just look at the stats, you look at the R-squareds, relate more to airline profitability than it does to temporary fluctuations in the dollar or in oil prices.
Thank you. Very helpful.
Very profitable now.
Thanks, Jim.
Yeah.
Operator, we have time for one more question.
That'll be from the line of Hunter Keay with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks a lot for getting me on. Sort of a follow-up to the previous question, actually. It was about the comments you've made, Jim, over the last couple of calls about running below historical deferral or cancellation rates. Can you give me some more color on that? How are you tracking that? Do you look back at that metric to sort of where we are in prior cycles at this point in time? Or is it just sort of like a rolling historical look back? Is there any way you could sort of give us some more color on how you look at that metric and help us sort of think about it and quantifying it?
Yeah. It's sort of a rolling look back, the specific metric. I think this question, I started working this into our presentations when we, this was back in the last dip, and people were concerned, rightly so, about that metric, and we've just sort of kept it in place. Just in my experience over the last decade, we have remained in bottom-ish parts of the cycle, top part of the cycle. For the last decade or so, we've remained below that historical average, which is a good thing. We can break out the number for you a little more finely if you'd like. In general, I think the point is valid through the cycles of the last 10 years.
Great. Greg, maybe a quick follow-up for you on the comment you made about advances being roughly flat. I thought you'd said at a conference last month that they were going to be maybe down a little bit because of lack of rate break. Were you just referring to PDPs, or is there any other noise in the advances line that would cause that maybe disconnect, or did I mishear you?
Yeah, I mean, I was talking on commercial. There's a little bit more on the BDS side.
Okay
driving that.
Yep. Great. Thanks a lot.
Okay.
Thank you.
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Thank you. We'll continue this morning with media questions for Jim and Greg. If you have any questions following this part of the session, please call our media relations team at 312-544-2002. Operator, we're ready for the first question, in the interest of time, we ask that you limit everyone to just one question, please.
We'll go to Jon Ostrower with "The Wall Street Journal." Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Morning, Jon.
Hey, a question about Boeing South Carolina. The IAM withdrew their request for a election there late last week. I'm just curious, Jim, your thoughts on the site today and looking forward as far as the relations with the union more broadly, and whether or not there are any lessons to learn from how Boeing has dealt with its workforce there in terms of more broadly looking at what's going on back in Puget Sound and sort of how to manage that relationship and whether or not, essentially, Boeing South Carolina, in your view, would have to stay non-union for it to be a competitive site.
Listen, you're right. They decided not to go through with the election, presumably because they felt they didn't have the votes, you'd have to ask them specifically about why they withdrew. We are very happy with our relationship with our teammates down in South Carolina. The site is technically and on a manufacturing, certification, engineering basis, doing very well. I'm very pleased with its progress. I also highly value the relationship that we all have with our employees in Puget Sound. One group has a union, one doesn't. We prefer to have a direct relationship with our employees, but when they choose to have a union, we want to work with them. It's not either/or. Our task is to work with both environments, and to grow them to their potential. Very happy with developments down in South Carolina.
That place is really doing well.
Our next question is from Julie Johnsson with Bloomberg News. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning all.
Good morning.
Airbus said today that they're looking at boosting A320 production past 60 a month. I'm just wondering if Boeing is studying a similar increase in narrow body output. If there are concerns at this point about the supply chain's ability to keep pace with some of the increases coming down.
Didn't see Airbus's comments today. I think our supply chain has anticipated robust growth, probably from both of us. They see the orders and the backlogs as we do. We spend a lot of time talking with our supply chain and working on them with readiness, on readiness issues, I should say. We've announced 52. They count a little bit differently. 60 is roughly the same as 52, 54. I've forgotten how the math works. I think the supply chain is ready. We've spent a lot of time investing in getting them ready.
Our next question's from Dominic Gates with The Seattle Times. Please go ahead.
Good morning.
Morning, Dominic.
Hi. I wanted to ask for an update on Tanker, very specifically, we learned from the GAO report this month, a couple of things. First of all, that the flight tests, you're going to start production ahead of the flight test. Could you speak to the risk of that? A very specific question, the GAO report says that Boeing's own estimate of the cost overrun on the initial development phase is $380 million. Is that amount covered by the charge you took last July, the pre-tax $425 million, or is that some anticipated new charge later?
I'm not sure about the last number.
There's no anticipated charge there, Dominic.
I don't know where they got it from.
Yeah. Our estimates have taken all that into consideration on first flight, as well as completing the balance of the airplanes. Certainly, there's work left to be done here, and we're going to get the airplane into the air sometime this summer, and that'll be fully militarized, and we'll see how that goes and continue to execute the balance of the program. There's no change to the financial position on the program at this point. Operator, we have time for one last question.
That will be from Alwyn Scott with Reuters. Please go ahead.
Hi, can you hear me?
Yes. Good morning.
Thanks for taking the call. I wondered if you could say a bit more about why you feel confident that the Zodiac seat problems are resolved. They've said today they got to the root of the problem, but that they're still anticipating some disruption. Can you tell me more about that? What gives you confidence that it won't disrupt your deliveries this year?
Yeah, I think that all the problems are not resolved. We do have a high confidence in the plan to resolve them. It's because our people are deeply involved with them in the resolution. We don't anticipate a lot of it being worked through till the end of the second quarter, but we've all figured out a way to work together that it's not going to disrupt our production plans. We're pleased to see their response now to getting this fixed.
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