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Earnings Call: Q1 2015

Apr 22, 2015

Speaker 1

Thank you for standing by. Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Boeing Company's First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. The management discussion and slide presentation, plus the analyst and media question and answer sessions are being broadcast live over the Internet. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I'm turning the call over to Mr.

Troy Lahr, Vice President of Investor Relations for the Boeing Company. Mr. Lahr, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you and good morning. Welcome to Boeing's Q1 2015 earnings call. I'm Troy Lahren with me today are Jim McNearney, Boeing's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Greg Smith, Boeing's Chief Financial Officer. After comments by Jim and Greg, we will take your questions. In fairness to others on the call, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question.

As always, we've provided detailed financial information in today's press release and you can follow this broadcast and slide presentation through our website atboeing.com. Before we begin, I need to remind you that any projections and goals included in our discussion this morning are likely to involve risks, which is detailed in our news release, in our various SEC filings and in the forward looking statement disclaimer at the end of this web presentation. In addition, we refer you to our earnings release and presentation for disclosures and reconciliation of non GAAP measures that we use when discussing our results and outlook. Now, I'll turn the call over to Jim McNearney.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Troy, and good morning, everybody. My comments today will focus on our positive first quarter performance and what we see as a continued healthy business environment. After that, Greg will walk you through the details of our financial results and outlook. Now let's move to slide 2 please. Building on the strong performance trend we sustained through 2014, Boeing delivered solid Q1 2015 financial results, including higher revenue, healthy core earning healthy core operating margins and double digit growth in core earnings per share.

We also continued to return cash to shareholders in the Q1 by repurchasing $2,500,000,000 of Boeing stock and increasing our dividend as promised by 25 percent for a payout of $639,000,000 Revenue at Boeing Commercial Airplanes increased 21 percent to $15,400,000,000 and operating margins were 10.5%. We delivered 184 commercial airplanes in the quarter and added 110 net new orders. Key milestones in the quarter included delivery of the first 780seven-nine built at Boeing South Carolina. The opening of our South Carolina Propulsion Systems facility and startup of an automated wing panel assembly on the 737 program in Renton. Boeing Defense, Space and Security reported revenue in the Q1 of $6,700,000,000 and generated strong operating margins of 11.1%.

Key contract awards included orders for 43 Ah-64E Apache Helicopters, a multiyear combat logistics support contract and an order from SES for an all electric 702 SP satellite. In addition, the U. S. Air Force selected the 740seven-eight as the next presidential aircraft. Noteworthy program milestones in the quarter included launching the first two all electric propulsion satellites double stacked on a single rocket and building and breaking ground on the crew access tower which will support the commercial crew program and replicating a best practice for bolstering performance on development programs by establishing a single unified Defense and Space Development Programs organization.

Our success with a similar structure put in place at Commercial Airplanes starting with the development of the 787-nine shows that we can leverage synergies and expertise across different development programs to reduce cost and risk and better ensure performance as promised to our customers. This new organization will oversee current and future development efforts including work on the KC-forty six tanker, the 740seven-eight Presidential Aircraft, our commercial crew spacecraft and space launch system rocket, the 502 small satellite and our St. Louis based 777X work package. In summary, we delivered another strong quarter of operating performance, achieved significant program milestones, captured orders totaling $15,000,000,000 and returned significant cash to shareholders, all of which Greg will cover in more detail in a moment. With that, let's turn to the business environment on slide 3.

Strong airline profitability, healthy global air traffic trends and our backlog totaling more than 5,700 aircraft all combined to underpin our planned production rate increases over the remainder of the decade. Our long term outlook also remains positive as we expect airline fleet growth and replacement demand to drive the need for nearly 37,000 commercial aircraft over the next 20 years. As evidenced by the healthy pace of orders during the Q1, conversations with our airline customers continue to center on new purchases or accelerating delivery slots. Deferral requests are still running well below the historical average. These remain very good times for our industry.

As I mentioned on last quarter's call, historically airplane orders are highly correlated to airline profitability and lower oil prices have not fundamentally changed customers' view on fleet planning or their commitment to existing delivery schedules. The rapid return on investment from new more efficient airplanes remains a compelling factor in purchase decisions in a fuel price environment that remains even if it remains well below the 15 year average. As a reminder, in addition to far better fuel efficiency and lower maintenance costs, our new technologically advanced airplanes also often deliver higher passenger and cargo revenue, increased residual values, a better overall passenger experience and greater range that grows market opportunities by allowing for new city pairs and more optimal routes. All of these elements provide significant value to our customers over the life of the aircraft. Further to those points, demand for both the 777 and the 777X remains strong.

The 777 production line is essentially sold out for 2016, approximately half sold out in 2017 and has a healthy number of slots already sold firm in 2018. As we've discussed before, the new 777X is scheduled to enter final assembly in the 2018 timeframe and will leverage new manufacturing processes and technologies being proven on the current to optimize the overall 777X production system. We will continue to assess the most efficient way to phase in this new technology and adapt as necessary to ensure we meet our customers' commitments. On the 787 program, we have now delivered more than 250 airplanes including 20-9s. Notable among the strong new bookings during the quarter was ANA's order for 3 787-10s.

787-ten development remains on track for first delivery in 2018. In the single aisle segment, demand for our new fuel efficient 7 37 MAX also remains high with cumulative orders totaling more than 2,700 airplanes from 57 customers. Development of the MAX remains on track for first delivery in 2017. Turning to Defense, Space and Security. We continue to see solid support for our major programs.

The President's fiscal 2016 budget request included increases for core Boeing production programs such as P-8A Poseidon, Apache and Chinook Helicopters. Key development programs such as tanker, long range strike and commercial crew also saw budget increases. International demand for our offerings remained strong, particularly in the Middle East and the Asia Pacific region. During the Q1, international customers for Defense, Space and Security represented 23% of revenue and 37% of our current backlog. Our investments in technology and innovation for organic growth continue in areas such as commercial derivatives, space unmanned systems, intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance and the few critical future franchise programs like Long Range Strike and the T X Trainer, which are priorities for our customers.

The relative strength of our Defense, Space and Security business stems from a portfolio that is reliable, proven and affordable, supported by our ongoing market based affordability initiative, which is focused on reducing operating costs by another $1,000,000,000 on top of the $5,000,000,000 already achieved, which will ensure competitiveness through the ongoing downturn in domestic defense spending. Overall, our business strategies are aligned to the realities and the opportunities of our markets and our teams are executing them well to deliver increased top line and bottom line performance, support the needs of our customers and capture new business to sustain our growth and profitability for the decades to come. Now over to Greg for

Speaker 3

our financial results and our updated guidance. Greg? Thanks Jim and good morning. Let's turn to slide 4 and we'll discuss our Q1 results. 1st quarter revenue increased 8% to $22,100,000,000 driven by strong commercial airplane deliveries.

Core earnings per share for the quarter increased 12% to $1.97 driven on higher commercial airplane volume and continued strong operating performance. Let's now discuss Commercial Airplanes on slide 5. For the Q1, our Commercial Airplanes business increased revenue 21 percent to $15,400,000,000 on 184 airplane deliveries and reported operating margins of 10.5%. Strong operating margins in the quarter were primarily driven by higher volume, continued focus on productivity and program mix. Commercial airplanes captured $9,800,000,000 in net orders during the Q1 and backlog remains very strong at $435,000,000,000 and over 5,700 aircraft equating to approximately 8 years of production.

Specifically on the 787 program, we continue to expect the program to be cash positive during 2015 and we still anticipate deferred production to decline shortly after we achieve the 12 per month production rate in 2016. No change to these fundamental milestones. We continue to see progress in key operational performance indicators for the 787 program as we further implement production efficiencies, while meaningfully increasing the 787-nine production and managing through some near term disruption in supply chain largely around cabin interiors. Despite these challenges and with a lot of hard work from the team, we delivered 3787s in the quarter and made further progress on reducing unit costs. On the 787-eight, we've seen a decline in unit cost of approximately 30% over the last 190 deliveries.

And furthermore, the 787-nine unit cost declined approximately 25% over the first 20 deliveries. In line with our expectations and at a declining rate, 787 deferred production increased 793,000,000 dollars to $27,000,000,000 in the Q1. And as we previously discussed, we continue to anticipate 787 deferred production to grow at similar levels for the next couple of quarters before seeing a healthy decline in the growth later in this year. We remain focused on the solid day to day execution, risk reduction and improving the long term productivity and cash flow going forward. We continue to manage the smooth ramp of the 787-nine production, prepare for the 12 rate per month introduction of the -ten while also driving efficiencies across all aspects of the program.

Let's turn now to Defense, Space and Security results on slide 6. First quarter revenue at our Defense business was $6,700,000,000 and operating margins were strong at 11.1%, largely driven by solid performance and favorable mix. Boeing military aircraft 1st quarter revenue declined to $2,700,000,000 primarily driven by planned timing of C-seventeen and F-fifteen deliveries. Operating margins of 9.5 percent reflect delivery mix that offset improved operating performance. Network and Space Systems reported revenue of $1,700,000,000 and increased operating margins to 9.6% in the quarter resulting from higher ULA earnings.

Global Services and Support revenue was $2,200,000,000 and operating margins increased to 14.1 percent on solid operating performance and favorable program mix. Defense, Space and Security reported a solid backlog of $60,000,000,000 with 37% of our current backlog representing customers outside the United States. Next slide please. Operating cash flow. Operating cash flow for the Q1 approximately $100,000,000,000 driven by solid operating performance and as expected the timing of receipts and expenditures that were largely benefited late in Q4 of 2014.

We continue to expect 2015 operating cash flow to be more than $9,000,000,000 with the majority of that being generated in the second half of the year. With regards to capital deployment, as Jim mentioned, we paid $639,000,000 in dividends and repurchased 17,000,000 shares for 2 point quarter as we continue to deliver on our commitment to our shareholders. And furthermore, this reflects our ongoing confidence in the long term outlook for our business. We continue to anticipate completing the remaining $9,500,000,000 repurchase authorization over the next 2 to 3 years. Returning cash to shareholders along with continued investment to support future growth remains top priority for us.

Moving to cash and debt balances on slide 8. We ended the quarter with $9,600,000,000 of cash and marketable securities and our cash balance continues to provide solid liquidity and positions us very well going forward. Let's now turn to slide 9 and I'll discuss our outlook for 2015. We are reaffirming our 2015 guidance for revenue, operating margins, core earnings, deliveries and cash flow. And overall, we're very pleased with the Q1 performance as the core operating engine continues to deliver strong results and we expect that performance to continue as we remain focused on production, program profitability, rate ramp up and ongoing productivity improvements.

With that, I'll turn it back over to Jim for some closing comments.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Greg. With a strong Q1 behind us, we remain focused on disciplined execution, quality and productivity improvements and meeting customer commitments. Our priorities going forward are clear and consistent. The profitable ramp up in commercial airplane production, executing well on our development programs, driving efficiencies throughout the enterprise, continuing to strengthen our defense business, and importantly, providing increasing value to both our customers and our shareholders. Now we'd be happy to take And our first question comes from the line of Howard Rubel with Jefferies.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen. Good

Speaker 1

morning, Howard. Good morning, Howard.

Speaker 2

You talk about there's going to be a number of questions to ask, but you talk about being able to make some real progress with the 777 bridge. Could you elaborate a little bit on that? And Jim maybe talk about the quality and the characterization of the discussions you're having with customers?

Speaker 1

Yes. I think 7 77 you've heard my speech before Howard, unique airplane in terms of its capability and where it's positioned in the market. So a real opportunity to manage this bridge well. So far so good. I think last year's performance was good.

I think this year where we stand now, we've got 25 orders and commitments in hand today. That's roughly half or just short of half of what we're looking for the entire year. I mentioned the production skyline in 2016, 2017 2018 and it's beginning to firm up. So we are increasingly confident that we can implement this bridge. And it's important not only commercially and to keep the rate going, but as I mentioned in my comments, we're sort of feathering in some new technology on the current airplane, the ER, so it's tested and derisked by the time we get to the X.

And so this bridge has lots of value for us, lots of value for our customers. So, steady she goes.

Speaker 2

Maybe just a follow-up for a second. You talk about feathering in some of this technology. And in the press release, you talk about accelerating some of the development milestones. So are we to take that that in fact the R and D programs are whether it's the MAX or the 10 or the X or kind of coming in a little bit better than your current budgets?

Speaker 1

No. What I would say is on budget slightly ahead on derisking. In other words, things are we're spending about what we had planned, But the technical advances or the reliability that we're shooting for is coming in a little bit more robustly than we'd hoped. And as you recall, we've got a development organization that is 100% focused on development now. And that gives us much greater visibility and much more objectivity around these kinds of milestones.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Yes. Our next question is from Cai von Rumohr with Cowen and Company. Please go ahead. Yes. Thank you very much.

So your 787 deferreds per unit built looked like they went from 32 in the 4th to $26,000,000 Maybe give us some color. This looks like better performance than we'd expected. Was this better than your performance expectations? How did the -nine and -eight do? And is the -eight now in a cash positive mode with regard to deferreds?

Yes. I guess what I

Speaker 3

would say Cai when you look over that timeframe, we have seen improved performance in particular I noted on the -nine is they're coming down the learning curve in a very aggressive manner. And I think that goes to the lessons learned off the -eight in getting those into the production system. So that introduction of that airplane is going very well. And as you know that will be close to half of our deliveries this year. So that smooth introduction is important.

When you look quarter over quarter as you know Cai mix comes into play. So we did have some early -9s actually the first two coming out of Charleston. So that played into the shift quarter over quarter. But I'd say fundamentally again the program continues to make good improvements on unit cost. Still got a long way to go, but making good progress.

Speaker 1

And maybe a follow-up. You'd mentioned the cabin interior disruptions. Yeah. What impact did that have on the A-seven? And when do you think you'll have that behind you?

Speaker 3

Well, I mean, Kai, we delivered 30 airplanes, which was the production rate, but it's disruptive. It added additional pressure obviously on deferred. And you see by the growth in deferred, we were able to offset some of that through our own productivity. But certainly it's been disruptive. There's recovery plans in place.

We're part of that recovery. We're actively engaged with them and we don't see that impacting our delivery through the balance of the year.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much. You're welcome. And next we go to Doug Harnett with Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yes. Good morning. Hi Doug. I'd like to just continue on that with the 787. If you look at the increases that you're seeing in deferred and as I look at the numbers for this quarter, it looks pretty much on the trajectory you described last quarter.

But can you parse this out into buckets? And what I mean by that is things that would be one time investments, I would say higher costs on early 787-nine deliveries and potentially other factors related to operations of the supply chain. How would you divide this up? I mean how much falls into each category?

Speaker 3

I see. Roughly Doug, it's about a third, a third, a third through breaking each one of those pieces down. Certainly, as we talked about maintaining some higher employment as we work through incorporating reliability and driving productivity initiatives, obviously getting ready to derisk for the -ten, the 12 a month and the early introduction of -nine. And as you know you've been covering this business a long time. And this is about a smooth introduction you've seen on a wide body program and particularly one that is at record production rates.

And that's attributed to really risk reduction effort and focus early on in the program. Some of the supplier negotiations as we talked about moving some of those to the right as we get more mature on the learning curve within those suppliers. And then some of the productivity initiatives as I've highlighted where we're really seeing opportunities to drive further value in the program over the long term, but requires some upfront investment. Those are very good business cases. Those are absolutely the right thing to do to drive long term profitability and cash for this program.

And those are obviously remain a top priority for us. And at the same time, we're looking for more opportunities to capture further productivity and cash that will require more investments. So we're continuing to focus on that. And again, I think it's absolutely the right thing to do for the program and again driving long term profitability and that's the focus.

Speaker 4

And if I can and a follow-up on this. I mean, on the -nine in principle, I mean, this is an airplane that will have higher pricing. You've done design a lot of design work to lower manufacturing costs for it. So in theory, this should be a very attractive airplane from a profitability standpoint. Can you give us a sense of when you expect the -nine to become cash positive?

Speaker 3

So I don't really look at it that way Doug. I mean I look at it as a program as a whole. And the productivity focus is not just on the -nine, it's across the entire value chain of -eight and -nine. But again on the overall profile when you combine the -8s and 9s we expect to be cash positive during 2015. So that hasn't changed.

But the fundamentals are again are more across the entire either supply chain or internally whether it's a -eight, a -nine or a -ten where do we drive additional productivity. Okay. Thank you. Okay.

Speaker 1

Next we'll go to Carter Copeland with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning Jim and Greg.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning. Good morning, Carter.

Speaker 2

Greg, I wondered if you might clarify something on the 777 for me. I'm just sort of wondering what the implications of inserting some of these productivity investments into the ER production line are on the margin front for that program? Is that by including those in the sort of end of line ERs ahead of the 777X? Does that have a negative margin impact of any significance? And then secondly, how should we think about the impact of splitting the 777X into its own block and what does that will mean for overhead and non recurring investments?

Is that a material upper in the other direction? How should we think about those impacts?

Speaker 3

Yes. First answer the answer to your last question is no. As far as the introduction of this, we extended the block by 50 units this quarter. And that investment that we've talked about that's going to apply on the 777 and eventually 777X some of that cost is incorporated. So those are in our booking rates this quarter.

I would tell you a very smooth introduction. When I say that proving out this technology outside the production system in an isolated again outside the mainstream production proving it out, making it rate capable and then a smooth implementation as you're continuing to build 8.3 a month. So a lot of that proved out again risk reduction investment upfront, but long term profitability in the program doing that outside the production system. So we've been doing that and that's the I'll say the plan to implement that into the mainstream production. So I don't view that as high risk.

I think the de risking activity has been very prudent. And if we see any issues along the way, we have a plan B or I'd say an off ramp to continue with the current production system. So I think the risk is very managed. Now the opportunity obviously is increasing or reducing flow time, better quality and ultimately better unit cost. Very good investment for us over the long term of the 777 plus the 777X.

And was there any impact on the program margin

Speaker 2

as a result of the block extension?

Speaker 3

Yes. Up or down? Slightly down. Okay. Thanks.

And keep in mind too Carter escalation comes into play here that some of the productivity that came through in the booking rates some of that was offset by escalation that impacted the booking rates across all the programs. But again strong productivity across all the programs. Great.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Greg. You're welcome. Next we go to Sam Perelstein with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 1

I was wondering if you could talk a

Speaker 4

little bit more about the supply chain and the $2,000,000,000 increase in the gross inventory. We know about the seat issue. GE talked about not being able to deliver all the engines that they would have liked. And so I guess to what extent did those delays impact that inventory number? And where do you see issues in the supply chain that concern you as you talk about going up to 12 a month?

Speaker 1

Well, I mean some of

Speaker 3

that Sam is just the fact that we're going up in rate. So there's some of that. The disruption we've talked about again the team has done a fantastic job managing through that disruption, reaching back into the supply chain and helping wherever we can help out and there's recovery plans in place. So watch item certainly been disruptive, but certainly not something we see impacting the deliveries for the year.

Speaker 4

And can you tell us when in 2016 you plan to go to 12 a month?

Speaker 3

Later in 2016.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thanks. Next question is from Jason Gursky with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning. Jim, I was wondering if you might spend a few minutes talking about the defense business. Yes. In particular comment on the sales efforts on the C-seventeen. And then maybe just provide some updated thoughts on say the next 5 years in the defense business.

Historically talked about this being flattish with some programs coming up and some coming down. Maybe just an update there would be helpful.

Speaker 1

I think the summary would be the outlook remains challenging, but recently looking a little better as I read the political dynamics. Just overall comment about the marketplace, particularly the U. S. Congress driven marketplace. The but to the specifics of your questions, C-17s, we've got orders and commitments that leave about 5 to go.

We have a lot of action on those 5. So I think the team made the right call on when to curtail the program. You always want to curtail these things where you end up having a little more demand than you've got airplanes at the end to hold pricing and production and that is playing out well for us. I think the in the face of sequestration, the reason for my optimism and it's not wild eyed optimism, it's a matter of sort of Ryan Murray 2.0 sort of maybe extending the kind of budget compromise that had been fashioned a couple of years ago another couple of years and that may turn into a broader consensus dealing with sequestration in a balanced way. So that's a little more optimism that that will sort out.

And based on newspaper reports I've seen Murray and Ryan are working together again trying to come up with some kind of a budget compromise that would include the defense portion. We're well marked up in the President's budget request, more than our fair share of sort of the jump balls, I guess is the way to put it. And so our backlog remains strong. Our profitability because our productivity plans assume the worst and what we'd like to do is be surprised. And so that's the reason that you're seeing strong margins in the Q1 in our defense business notwithstanding some timing on the deliveries, which we'll sort out by year end.

But it's does that give you the flavor you were looking for?

Speaker 2

Yes. Just and maybe just to put a little bit finer tooth on this is you've got risk on F-eighteen, F-fifteen towards the end of the decade. You've gone talked about tanker and P-eight offsetting those declines. Is that still the broad brush stroke view of your of the world?

Speaker 1

Yes. And I think F-eighteen and F-fifteen may have more legs to them yet to be proven than the last time I made that comment. So a little bit more bullish there. But long term that is the way I look at it. The only other thing I'd add to that is that there are 3 or 4 major development programs that are in play right now.

Long range strike is 1. Tanker is another one. The U class is another one. And so there's some major programs. And if we win our market our sort of our market shares worth of those or maybe a little better that will provide some upside to the equation you mentioned.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 1

Our next question is from Ron Epstein with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yeah. Hey, good morning guys. Hey, Ron.

Speaker 2

Just a quick question on customer advances. It seems like more recently that's been more volatile

Speaker 4

than it has been in

Speaker 2

the past. And just kind of thinking about it, has there been a change in policy around how you collect the PDPs, meaning with backlog going out so far? And is it to your advantage to try to collect some of those PDPs maybe sooner monetizing it sooner than waiting say 8 years for those PDPs. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3

No change Ron. No change. I mean what you're really just seeing is just the timing of those. And as you've heard me talk about before, as you go up in rate obviously and with the strong order book, we've seen more advances. Advances.

But the timing of those quarter over quarter very difficult to see a trend there. And you really got to look at it over a year over year and frankly over a 24 month period because of the size of those some of those as well as milestone payments. So very difficult to look at quarter over quarter, but no change. I would tell you as far as cash flow goes, the outlook for operating cash from us remains unchanged. And we still see strong cash flow this year again greater than $9,000,000,000 and continued growth as we come out of 2015 into 2016.

Advances are certainly a part of that, but just the core operating performance and the fact that our delivery rates will continue to go up as we deliver on the 5,000 700 airplane. So our view on cash flow again is very solid and remains unchanged.

Speaker 2

Okay. Great. And if I can just follow on with just a more technical question. Yeah. On the 777X, I think you guys have said that the center wing box is going to be aluminum as opposed to carbon fiber.

How what can we read into that? I mean, would that move on that aircraft compared to what was done on the 787?

Speaker 3

I wouldn't read anything into it Ron. Obviously, when we go through the design of the airplane, I won't be pretend to be a design engineer here, but everything's taken into consideration as far as efficiency of the operating economics of the airplane and the weight. And that gets taken into consideration maturity of technology and obviously development costs and recurring costs to build the airplane. So those are a few things that obviously important key factors we take into account when we're making trade offs between one type of I'll say application versus another.

Speaker 1

And there was no change there. That was always the plan. Yes.

Speaker 2

Okay. Great. Cool. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. And next we go to Myles Walton with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning. Good morning, Myles. Greg, you did 10.5% of BCA margins in the quarter. It looks like mix and volume would actually be modest helps for the rest of the year.

It doesn't look like R and D should be much of a headwind. And it sounds like the 777 kind of extension was a negative in this quarter. So other than conservatism, how do you put it to the 9% to 10% guidance for the year?

Speaker 3

Yes. I kind of put it into 3 main areas Miles. I mean R and D, we do expect R and D to pick up a little bit in the back half with in particular the 777X ramping up. We'll have more -nine delivery, 787-nine deliveries and then with more 747s as well. So that's the I'll say the dilutive impact for the margins going through the balance of the year.

And having said that, obviously, we got everybody extremely focused on continuing to drive productivity and we will through the balance of the year. But it's really that mix that's driving.

Speaker 5

And just one clarification, you said the majority of cash in the second half. Are Are you thinking 2 thirds? Or are you talking 80%?

Speaker 3

Well, I would say traditionally as you know we're back loaded, but 3rd and fourth quarter will be heavier than 1st and second quarter. And again progress payments milestones and then just delivery profile.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thanks. Our next question is from Ram Spingarn with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Good morning.

Hey, Ram. Good morning. I just wanted to get a clarification from Jim and then a question for Greg. Jim, on the 777 you mentioned 25 orders and commitments, but I think you printed just the 7 orders in the quarter. So are these still in process?

Or they fall into Q2? Well, we don't mention commitments unless things are largely done. Okay. And so things are largely done. And there's timing considerations and in some cases driven by customer requirements and things.

And so we let the customer decide when to finally approve and release. But I have a very high degree of confidence in the 25 number. Okay. Okay. And then Greg on cash flow just going back sort of follow-up to Ron's question.

So you'll probably have let's call it after tax a $1,000,000,000 to 2 $1,000,000,000 tailwind on 787 deferred. And you're guiding to a flattish OCA operating cash flow, somewhat flattish net income. And I know at the end of the year here? I imagine that there's some offset to the deferred tailwind in terms of a headwind on advances and physical inventory. Yes.

Well, like I

Speaker 3

said, Rob, timing around advances and milestones can swing significantly quarter over quarter and as you said year over year. So that comes into play as well as as I said delivery mix and even the way the orders are profiled through the balance of the year. So again, the outlook on cash flow for this year unchanged, greater than $9,000,000,000 that's what everybody is focused on generating. Again, quarter over quarter, you're going to see variance in there. And those elements I described are really what the big shifts in quarter over quarter, I'll say, fluctuation you're going to see.

But nothing's changed on the cash flow, Rob, and we continue to remain extremely focused. And I think as you've seen $2,500,000,000

Speaker 1

share repurchase

Speaker 3

just in the quarter alone, I think should give you some idea of the confidence we have in executing to our business plan and just the overall business environment and executing

Speaker 1

on the total backlog. But Greg, just to be clear, you can do the $9,000,000,000 even if advance balances decline? Well, we

Speaker 3

don't anticipate any change from what we talked about when we gave guidance. So again, I see Advance is about flattish year over year from 2014. But those are all scheduled. We know where they're timed and we know where they're coming from and we have the confidence that we'll obtain all those as we normally do. So I don't see any change there.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thanks guys. And our next question is from Peter Herrmann with Stern AG. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, yes. Good morning Jim and Greg. Jim, a question on the you mentioned the deferral request continuing to run at record low rates and kind of accelerated purchases. Do you still feel confident about kind of the bookings environment? I guess it speaks to healthier backlog, but do you still think you can get

Speaker 2

a book to bill of 1 this year?

Speaker 1

Yes. I think we'll get a book to bill of 1.

Speaker 2

I mean

Speaker 1

there's when I look at the pipeline, I look what's happened so far in the Q1 that remains how I see it coming in. And I think that's a healthy sign after a number of years at well above that. But it's remember a lot of the demand out there is replacement demand, new technology replacing old technology. We're in a technology cycle. Now we're not tied to GDP growth.

We are tied to very favorable replacement economics. And so half our growth is replacement, half is sort of new routes, new airlines opening up new deliveries more tied to GDP. But that's the nice thing about what innovation can do for you.

Speaker 4

Yes. And is there any concern about just in when you mentioned oil that you're not seeing any pushback just related to that. Are you some of your leasing customers that has production rates not to go up as where they as high as they indicated. Are you worried about kind of the capacity aspect? Or is it just related to that replacement cycle?

Speaker 1

Yes. I think said another way, the replacement cycle numbers still work really well with oil at current prices. Remember, we launched the 787 at roughly 20%, 25% lower oil prices than we have today, okay? So we felt very confident then and we even more so do now in a higher oil price environment from then that this is an attractive proposition for our customer. And as I said, the order trends relate more when you just look at the stats, you look at the R squared, they relate more to airline profitability than it does to temporary fluctuations in the dollar or in oil prices.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Very helpful.

Speaker 1

Very profitable now.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jim. Yes. Operator, we have time for one more question.

Speaker 1

And that will be from the line of Hunter Keay with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, thanks a lot for getting me on.

Speaker 5

Sort of a follow-up to the previous question actually, it was about the historic the comments you made, Jim, over the last couple of calls about running below historical deferral cancellation rates. I Can you give me some more color on that? How are you tracking that? Do you look back at that metric to sort of where we are in prior cycles at this point in time? Or is it sort of like a rolling historical look back?

Is there any way you can sort of give us some more color on how you look at that metric and help us sort of think about it

Speaker 1

in quantifying it? It's sort of a rolling look back the specific metric. I think this question I started working this into our presentations when we this is before the last back in the last dip and people were concerned rightly so about that metric and we've just sort of kept it in place. And but just in my experience over the last decade, we have remained in bottom ish parts of the cycle, top part of the cycle. For the last decade or so, we've remained below that historical average, which is a good thing.

We can break out the number for you a little more finally if you'd like. But in general, I think the point is valid through the cycles of the last 10 years.

Speaker 5

Okay. Great. And Greg maybe a quick follow-up for you on the comment you made about advances being roughly flat. I thought you'd said at a conference last month that they were going to be maybe down a little bit because of lack of rate break. Were you just referring to PDPs?

Or is there any other noise in the advances line that would cause that maybe disconnect? Or am I just could I just hear you?

Speaker 2

Yes. I

Speaker 3

mean, I was talking on commercial. There's a little bit more on the BDS

Speaker 2

side. Okay.

Speaker 3

Driving that.

Speaker 4

Yes. Great.

Speaker 1

Thanks a lot. Okay. Thank you. That completes the analyst question and answer session. I'll now turn you to the Boeing Company for introductory remarks by Mr.

Tom Downey, Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications. Mr. Downey, please go ahead. Thank you. We'll continue this morning with media questions for Jim and Greg.

If you have any questions following this part of the session, please call our media relations team at 312-544-2002. Operator, we're ready for the first question. And in the interest of time, we ask that you limit everyone to just one question please. And we'll go to John Ullstrawer with The Wall Street Journal. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 2

Good morning, John. Hey, question about Boeing, South Carolina. The I'm just withdrew their request for a election there late last week. I'm just curious, Jim, your thoughts on the site today and looking forward as far as the relations with the union more broadly and whether or not there are any lessons to learn from how Boeing has dealt with its workforce there in terms of more broadly looking at what's going on back in Puget Sound and sort of how to manage that relationship and whether or not they're essentially, Boy, South Carolina in your view, have to stay nonunion for it to be a competitive site?

Speaker 1

Listen, I mean, you're right. I mean, they decided not to go through the election. I presumably, because they felt they didn't have the votes, but you'd have to ask them specifically about why they withdrew. We are very happy with our relationship with our teammates down in South Carolina. The site is technically and on a manufacturing engineering basis doing very well.

I'm very pleased with its progress. But I also highly value the relationship I that we all have with our employees in Puget Sound. I mean it's we one group has a union, one doesn't. We prefer to have a direct relationship with our employees. But when they choose to have a union, we want to work with them.

So it's not either or. Our task is to work with both environments to grow them to their potential. And so but very happy with developments down in South Carolina. That place is really doing well. Our next question is from Julie Johnson with Bloomberg News.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning all. Good morning. Airbus said today that they're looking at boosting A320 production past 60 a month. And I'm just wondering if Boeing is studying a similar increase in narrow body output. And if there are concerns at this point about the supply chain's ability to keep pace with some of the increases coming down?

Speaker 1

I didn't see Airbus' comments today, but it's the I think our supply chain has anticipated robust growth probably from both of us. They see the orders and the backlogs as we do. We spend a lot of time talking with our supply chain and working on them with readiness on readiness issues I should say. We've announced 52. They count a little bit differently.

60 is not is roughly the same as 52, 54. I've forgotten how the math works. But it's I think the supply chain is ready. And we spent a lot of time investing in getting them ready. Our next question is from Dominic Gates with the Seattle Times.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning. Good morning, Dominic. Hi. I wanted to ask for an update on tanker. And very specifically, we learned from the GAO report this month a couple of things.

First of all, that the flight tests are going to go ahead you're going to start production ahead of the flight test. So could you speak to the risk of that? And a very specific question, the GAO report says that Boeing's own estimate of the cost overrun on the initial development phase is $380,000,000 Is that amount covered by the charge you took last July, the pretax $425,000,000 Or is that some anticipated new charge later?

Speaker 1

I'm not sure about the last

Speaker 3

number. There's no anticipated charge here Dominic. I don't know where they got it. From. Yes.

I mean, we our estimates have taken all that into consideration on first flight as well as completing the balance of the airplanes. Certainly, there's work left to be done here and we're going to get the airplane into the air sometime this summer and that will be fully militarized and we'll see how that goes and continue to execute the balance of the program. But there's no change to the financial position on the program at this point.

Speaker 1

Operator, we have time for one last question. And that will be from Alwin Scott with Reuters. Please go ahead. Hi. Can you hear me?

Yes. Yes. Good morning. Thanks for taking the call. I wondered if you could say a bit more about why you feel confident that the Zodiac seed problems are resolved.

They've said today they got to the root of the problem, but that they're still anticipating some disruption. Can you tell me more about that? What gives you confidence that it won't disrupt fewer deliveries this year? Yes. I think that all the problems are not resolved.

We do have a high confidence in the plan to resolve them. We have and it's because our people are deeply involved with them in the resolution. We don't anticipate a lot of it being worked through till the end of the second quarter. But it's we've all figured out a way to work together that it's not going to disrupt our production plans. And we're pleased to see their response now to getting this fixed.

That concludes our earnings call. Again, for members of the media, if you have further questions, please call our media relations team at 312-544-2002.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

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