We'll take questions and turn during the Q and A session. And please note today's call is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to turn the program over to Lee McIntyre. Please begin, sir.
Good morning to those on the phone joining us by webcast. Before Brian Moynihan and Bruce Thompson begin their comments, let me remind you that this presentation available at bankofamerica.com does contain some forward looking statements regarding both our financial condition and financial results and that these statements involve certain risks that may cause actual results in the future to be different from our current expectations. Please see our press release and SEC documents for further information. With that, let me turn it over to our CEO, Brian Moynihan.
Thank you, Lee. Good morning, everyone. And just to start off, let me remind you where our focus is and has been for some time, on capital generation, on managing our risk, on continuing to reduce our costs and on addressing the legacy issues so that we can drive our growth strategy by simply doing more with our customers and clients. This quarter shows very clearly how the focus is paying off as we earn $4,000,000,000 We built our company over the last several quarters to maintain stability, we'll continue to make progress. To withstand the volatility that we saw in part at the end of this quarter, while delivering for our customers and that came through.
Even as mortgage demand has decreased, we saw a 40% increase in retail production over last year and an increase over last quarter. Even as interest rates rose, we were able to add to our capital ratios. And keep in mind with our $1,000,000,000,000 deposit book, rising rates will continue to increase the value of those over time. We have leading capabilities in the areas where our customers want us to be. We do more business with them.
We're gaining momentum across every customer group we serve. And while we're doing that, our balance sheet continues to strengthen. Our capital ratios again move higher and just as importantly, we've begun the process of returning capital to our shareholders. Our credit quality continued to improve. Expenses are down by $1,000,000,000 from a year ago.
LAS expenses or legacy asset servicing expenses, excluding our litigation are down by nearly $800,000,000 on a quarterly basis from the peak only a couple of quarters ago and are ahead of our projections. Our loans and our deposits continue to grow. All the businesses produce solid stable revenues and the focused areas where we are growing, they grew their revenues. And we're seeing growing activity levels across all our customer and client groups. So as we look forward, we're closely following recent regulatory proposals around capital and leverage just as you are.
Obviously, we've already taken significant steps in our company to build our current strong levels of capital liquidity and we maintain a comfort level here that Bruce will take you through the numbers later. The good news in all this is that we're seeing in our business is reflective of improving economy. The economy continues to improve across all areas. That benefits our company across multiple fronts. But most importantly with improving economy, it strengthens and creates opportunity for the people, companies and investors that we serve.
And that opportunity will continue to provide opportunity for us to capture as we connect all our capabilities to help those that we serve realize our financial goals. With that, let me turn it over to Bruce.
Great. Thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. I'm going to start on Slide 5 of our presentation materials. Total revenues for the quarter were very solid at $22,900,000,000 and we earned $4,000,000,000 or $0.32 per diluted share, which is up significantly both from the Q1 of this year as well as the comparable period in 20 12. We made significant progress in all of our primary businesses this quarter and on a linked quarter basis we had growth in 4 out of the 5 businesses.
Consumer activity levels were solid as mortgage production increased, credit card loan balances stabilized and both deposits and brokerage flows increased from the previous quarter of record revenues as well as earnings. Global Banking revenue showed continued strength driven by increased lending in both our commercial as well as our corporate bank and investment banking performance remains strong and close to record levels. Total non interest expense of $16,000,000,000 represented a significant improvement in expenses both relative to the Q1 of this year as well as the comparable quarter in 2012. And asset quality improved significantly as our provision expense declined to $1,200,000,000 this quarter. On slide 6, we give some balance sheet highlights.
First, the overall size of the balance sheet came down this quarter to about $2,125,000,000,000 Importantly, customer activity remains strong with loans led by our commercial loans up $10,000,000,000 did experience modest growth. I'd also call out on the page that tangible book value per share remained relatively flat from the Q1 of this year. That's significant in the context of our $4,000,000,000 of earnings largely offset the negative after tax impact from accumulated other comprehensive income driven by the increase in rates that we saw during the quarter. Also helping our tangible book value per share in the quarter was the return of roughly $1,000,000,000 of capital through the repurchase of 80,000,000 common shares at a price below tangible book value. And as we look forward, we have an additional $4,000,000,000 available for common share repurchases.
The combination of the earnings that I discussed on Slide 5 as well as the work that we did on our balance sheet led to a return on tangible common equity of just under 10% for the quarter and a return on average assets of 74 basis points. On Slide 7, we walk through some of the different regulatory capital ratios as far as where we ended up at the end of the Q2. If we start with Basel 1 Tier 1 common ratio, we ended the quarter at 10.83%, up 34 basis points from the Q1 of this year and 45 basis points on a pro form a basis at the end of 2012. Moving to Basel III, on a fully phased in basis under the advanced approach and based on final rules, our Tier 1 common ratio was 9.6%, showing progress from the Q1 of 2013 despite a 32 basis point negative impact from the change in OCI during the quarter. Risk weighted assets under Basel III were $1,310,000,000,000 or $43,000,000,000 lower than the Q1 of 20 13 due to an improvement in both the composition as well as the overall credit quality on the books.
If we move to the proposed supplementary U. S. Leverage ratio requirement, which will kick in at the beginning of 2018, Our preliminary analysis indicate that at the holding company, our leverage ratio for the Q2 of 2013 was in the range of 4.9% to 5%, which positions us very well relative to the 5% subsidiary and Fia, our card subsidiary. During the Q2 of 2013, both of those were in excess of the 6% proposed minimum. So net net from a regulatory capital perspective, we feel like we've made very good progress across all of the different measures that will be required to operate within.
On Page 8, funding and liquidity. You can see long term debt during the quarter declined $18,000,000,000 as maturities outpaced issuances during the quarter. Our global excess liquidity sources did decline during the quarter. It was expected as a result of our reductions in the long term debt footprint, our preferred stock redemptions, as well as the seasonal deposit outflows that I referenced earlier from tax payments. At the parent company, liquidity remains very strong at $95,000,000,000 due to capital returns from our subsidiaries during the quarter.
Time to require funding increased to 32 months, up from 29 months in the Q1 of 2013 and well above our target of approximately 24 months. And as we've indicated before, over the next 4 to 6 quarters, we will look to move that time to funding towards the 24 months as we repay the upcoming debt maturities in 2013 2014. Our net interest income, if you look at Slide 9, net interest income on an FTE basis was $10,800,000,000 down just about 1% from the Q1 of 2013. If you adjust our net interest income for market related items, it was 10,400,000,000 dollars which was less than $100,000,000 below our guidance as our trading related net interest income declined as a result of reduced balance sheet utilization in our global markets business during the last month of the quarter. On the positive side, we benefited during the quarter from lower long term debt, higher levels of commercial loan balances, as well as one additional day of interest in the Q2 relative to the first.
On the flip side, in addition to the negative impact of lower asset balances on the trading books, we also had slightly lower consumer loan balances and yields driven by our runoff portfolios. As we came into the Q2 of 2013, our interest rate sensitivity as we disclosed in the Q1 10 Q, estimated a $1,600,000,000 annual benefit to net interest income from 100 basis point instantaneous long end steepening if rates remained at that level. During the Q2, the 10 year rate did increase by more than 60 basis points and we realized $300,000,000 of that benefit immediately through the impact on FAS 91. We expect to realize the balance of the benefit approximately $700,000,000 over the course of the next 12 months. As a result of those different factors, we do expect net interest income excluding any market related impacts to build off of the Q2 of 20 thirteen $10,400,000,000 adjusted level as we move forward during the balance of 2013 and into 2014.
If you look at the work that we did on expenses on Slide 10, Total expenses were down significantly on both the linked quarter as well as a year over year basis as we continued to deliver on the expense reductions that we've discussed within our legacy assets and servicing area as well as the ongoing cost savings from our new BAC initiatives that we're implementing in the other businesses that we operate. Our number of full time equivalent employees in the quarter ended at just over 257,000, which was down 2% from the Q1 of 2013 and almost 7% from the comparable period a year ago. Total expenses did decline $3,500,000,000 from the Q1 of 2013 as we benefited from a $1,700,000,000 decline in litigation. Our LAS expenses ex litigation were down roughly another $250,000,000 Our retirement retirement eligible costs, which we only incurred during the Q1 of each year were down $900,000,000 and all other expenses were down approximately LIS expenses from the Q4 of 2012 when they peaked at $3,100,000,000 we are now down approximately $800,000,000 from that peak and we did all of that within the last two quarters. As a result, we previously had said that our LAS expenses ex litigation would be approximately $2,100,000,000 by the end of 20 13, meaning in the Q4 of 2013.
And with the progress that we've made, we now believe our 4th quarter LAS expenses will be below $2,000,000,000 in the Q4 of 13. And keep in mind that as we work through these, the realization of these savings can be somewhat lumpy. In addition to our LAS expenses, the $600,000,000 improvement in all other costs was driven primarily by lower incentive compensation costs during the quarter as well as our new BAC efforts. We remain on track to achieve $1,500,000,000 of new BAC quarterly savings by the Q4 of 2013. On Slide 11, we give some information on the trends from an asset quality perspective.
And as you can see, credit quality once again improved significantly during the quarter. Net charge offs declined to $2,100,000,000 an improvement of 16% on a linked quarter basis and 42% relative to the Q2 of 2012. Our Q2 of 2013 net loss rate of 94 basis points is the first time that we've been below 100 basis points since 2006. Given the improving trend in delinquencies in other metrics, we now expect our net charge offs will come in below $2,000,000,000 in the Q3 of 2013. Provision expense of $1,200,000,000 this quarter does reflect a reserve reduction of approximately $900,000,000 reflecting improving credit trends.
The allowance coverage remains strong and given the pace of improvement in credit quality, we do anticipate continued reserve releases particularly in our consumer real estate portfolios. Let's now move to a discussion of the performance within our lines of business on Slide 12. Consumer and Business Banking, before we go through the results, I do want to highlight a technical change that this quarter we did move our direct and indirect auto and other specialty lending into the CBB business from Global Banking given that it more closely connects with consumer lending activity. This book does include 30 $7,000,000,000 of loans and we have adjusted prior periods to have this data be comparable. Earnings in the business were relatively stable compared to the Q1 of 2013 and up 15% from the prior year, driven by both expense improvements as well as lower credit costs.
We do continue to do more business with our core customers. Our average deposits were up almost $9,000,000,000 from the Q1 of 2013 excluding the transfers that we had from the Wealth Management business. Loans declined a modest 1% as the decline in our credit cards was mitigated by a balance growth in both small business as well as auto lending. There's been a lot of discussion on our U. S.
Credit card balances. Those balances appear to have stabilized and at the end of the second quarter were at $90,500,000,000 up from $90,000,000,000 at the end of the Q1 of this year. Our card issuance remains strong in the Q2 and is its highest level since 2,008. U. S.
Consumer credit card retail spend per average active account was up 9% from the Q2 a year ago. We continue to optimize our delivery network and usage within the mobile channel continues to increase. And lastly, expense levels reflect both the benefits of the network optimization as well as the investments to build out our specialty sales force. If we move to Consumer Real Estate Services, on Slide 13, we address home loans, one of the 2 businesses within our Crest segment. 1st mortgage retail originations were $25,000,000,000 and were up 6% from the Q1 and 41% compared with retail originations in the year ago period.
Our market share in the retail mortgage space improved. We broke through 5% versus below 4% just over a year ago. We do anticipate some slowdown in mortgage production resulting from recent increases in interest rates and that is seen by the 5% reduction in our mortgage origination pipeline at the end of June relative to what we had seen at the end of March this year. While production has experienced a nice trajectory over the last year, we not unlike the industry have experienced compression on margins that affect revenue. While these margins do remain high relative to historical periods, the compression is most notable when you look at our year over year production revenue.
We continue to add mortgage or we continue to add mortgage loan officers during the Q2, primarily in the banking centers as well as other employees in our sales and fulfillment area in order to deliver a 1st class mortgage experience for our customers. These actions did contribute to higher expenses in the quarter. On Slide 14, we move to legacy assets and servicing, which still did report a loss in the quarter, but showed significant improvement from the Q1, which included the MBIA and RMBS litigation settlements as the reduction in expenses more than offset a decline in the revenues. Revenues were negatively impacted by a servicing revenue decline of $175,000,000 as the servicing portfolio declined 17% and we had less favorable MSR hedge performance. That was partially offset by higher sales volume of loans that returned to performing status.
As you look at LES, several key takeaways from this slide. The first is our level of 60 plus day delinquent loans, which is one of the primary drivers of the elevated cost dropped below 500,000 units at the end of June, a 27% decline from the results at the end of the Q1 of 2013. Recall, our number of 60 plus day delinquent loans peaked at almost 1,400,000 units at the end of 20 10. Looking ahead, we now 20 10. Looking ahead, we now expect our amount of 60 plus day delinquent loans to come down further than we originally expected to below 375,000 units by the end of 2013.
As we continue to reduce these loans, the number of employees and contractors will come down and you can see that by the decrease of 5,000 people during this quarter. Expenses ex litigation once again were down roughly $250,000,000 from the Q1 to $2,300,000,000 Global Wealth and Investment Management on Slide 15 had a great quarter with our results once again reflecting records in revenues, earnings as well as pre tax margin. Year over year revenue increased 10% and net income grew by 38%. Our 2nd quarter pre tax margin of about 28% benefited from strong revenue performance as well as improved credit costs during the quarter. Long term AUM flows were solid at nearly $8,000,000,000 in the quarter, more than double the flows that we saw in the prior year ago period.
Ending loan balances grew $5,000,000,000 due to the seasonality of tax payments. Global Banking on Slide 16 experienced strong loan growth and slightly higher investment banking fees compared to the Q1 of 2013, both of which helped drive $1,300,000,000 in net income and a 22% return on allocated equity. The investment banking strength kept fees near record levels and we retained our 2nd place ranking in net investment banking fees. Within the investment bank, debt underwriting fees continued the momentum from near record levels during the Q1 of 2013 and were up 53% from the Q2 of 2012. Equity underwriting fees grew 10% relative to the Q1 of 2013 and up 86% from the comparable year ago period due to the strong global IPO market as well as our focus on continuing to grow capabilities within this space.
On the balance sheet, average loans increased by almost $12,000,000,000 from the Q1 driven by growth in both corporate C and I as well as commercial real estate. As you look at that loan growth, I think it's important to note the strong diversity in lending to our global customer base as the U. S. Represented approximately 40% of the growth with the balance outside of the U. S.
We switched to global markets on Slide 17. We earned roughly $1,000,000,000 during the quarter on revenue of $4,200,000,000 which is up significantly from the Q2 of 2012 results, but down from the Q1 of 13. The business during the Q2 generated a 13% return on allocated equity. Sales and trading revenue, if we back out DBA was $3,500,000,000 solidly above our 2012 results. Fixed sales and trading was down versus the Q2 of 2012 as well as the Q1 of 2013 given the rate volatility and spread widening that we saw during the last month of the quarter.
Equity sales and trading had a very strong quarter, actually the best that we've seen since the Q1 of 2011. Results ex DVA were up 53% from the Q2 of 2012 and 4% over the Q1 of 2013 as we continue to gain market share in cash equities, improved our performance in equity derivatives and had higher client balances in our financing area. If you look at the balance sheet, trading asset levels did decline as we reduced risk during the end of the second quarter. Average bar at a 99% confidence level was $69,000,000 in the quarter, down from $80,000,000 in the Q1 of last year. On Slide 18, we walk you through the results of our All Other segment, which includes global principal investments, our non U.
S. Consumer Card business, our discretionary portfolio associated with interest rate risk management, insurance, as well as our international wealth management area. Gains on the sale of debt securities were $452,000,000 in the Q2 of 'thirteen compared to $67,000,000 in the Q1 and $354,000,000 in the Q2 of 2012. That coupled with the prior quarter costs for retirement eligible compensation, lower litigation expense, higher equity investment income and lower provision for credit losses due primarily to the improvement in the residential mortgage portfolio drove the significant improvement in earnings in this segment compared to both the Q1 of this year and the prior year ago period. Before we leave this slide, two things I would note for modeling purposes as it relates to preferred dividends and taxes.
The first preferred dividends, we expect our preferred dividends to drop from $441,000,000 this quarter to about $280,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and then settle in around $260,000,000 per quarter as we move forward. These declines are the result of the redemption of the $5,500,000,000 of preferred stock this quarter. We move to taxes. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 27%. As we look out during the balance of the year, we would expect the rate to be approximately 30% plus or minus any unusual items like the UK tax rate reduction.
As we've disclosed previously, this year's expected UK corporate income tax rate is likely to be reduced by 3% enacted in the Q3 of this year. As a result, for modeling purposes, you should include a charge of approximately $1,100,000,000 associated with the write down of our UK deferred tax asset in the Q3 of this year. But keep in mind, given where we are from a DTA dis allowance position this will not impact our Basel I or Basel III capital ratios. And before we wrap up and take questions, I'd like to leave you with a couple of thoughts about the Q2 performance. We achieved many of the objectives that we laid out for the quarter.
Revenue was solid, costs came down significantly, credit continued to improve and our capital ratios remained strong and improved despite the change in both OCI as well as the initiation of our share repurchase program during the quarter. The higher rate environment to the extent it stays with us allows us to improve our net interest income going forward and we plan to continue to drive forward, execute on our strategy and deliver on the earnings capability of our company. And with that, operator, we'll go ahead and open it for questions.
Thank you, sir. With that, we'll go first to the site of Betsy Graseck with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Good morning. Thanks.
Good morning, Betsy.
Couple of questions on improving RWAs. You mentioned that credit helped drive the RWAs down a little bit. Could you give a little bit more color on how much of the HPI improvement has already come through the RWAs or any more to come from what's happened so far in your 2Q in your 3Q and 4Q outlook?
Sure. When we reference Betsy the improving credit quality, you can look at it in 3 different buckets. The first which you've already pointed out, clearly HPI under Basel III as home prices go up, there is benefit to that and that improvement accounted for roughly a third of the improvement we saw during the quarter. The other two things that we benefited from was at the end of the quarter, we had less risk on the books, so that obviously the reduction in risk provided some benefit. And then third, the overall credit quality of the wholesale book that we had seen also improved.
So within that credit quality characterization, it was those three things. As we look forward, any improvement any further improvement that we have with respect to risk weighted assets is going to be a function of home prices. Obviously, the prints that we've seen during this quarter continue to be strong and to the extent that the improvement continues, we would expect to benefit from that. The other thing that is noteworthy and you see this is that we do continue to run off a fair bit of legacy positions within the consumer mortgage portfolio. And you saw that the home equity lines of credit reduced by about another $3,500,000,000 during the quarter and that obviously provides some benefit as well.
Okay, thanks. And then a follow-up on your comment regarding the outlook for NII, where you indicated that NII excluding market related items could build from the $10,400,000,000 at 2Q 'thirteen. Could you describe how you're thinking about that? I've had a lot of conversations over the last quarter about what you put in your Q, which is 100 basis points back of increase, a meaningful increase in EPS. That's got to come more from reinvesting the cash flow of the securities portfolio.
So could you give us a sense of how you drive higher NII?
Sure. Well, in the Q, we put out 2 different numbers. The first is that we put out is the parallel the 100 basis point parallel shift, which at the end of the Q1, I believe, we said was either $3,600,000,000 or 3 point $7,000,000,000 And then we had the steepening where just long rates went up and we had the $1,600,000,000 that I referenced. Obviously, as we look at and look at net interest income in the future, we've not seen a parallel shift at this point. We've just seen a steepening.
And that's why in my comments, I referenced the 1,600,000,000 dollars But as we look forward and look at it and look forward from a net interest income perspective, to the extent that long end rates are higher and we are investing excess liquidity of the company, we will benefit from being able to invest at higher rates. The other two items that we have that will benefit net interest income going forward is we do continue to take down the debt footprint and you can see that commercial loan balances are moving up as well. And we'd expect the combination of those things to more than offset some of the declines in both balances and yields we've seen on the consumer side.
Yes, Bruce, I'd just add. If you think about sort of over the last several quarters, we've been fighting the runoff portfolios and the impact of those going forward continues to mitigate. So if you look at some of the information was in the card balances actually growing quarter to quarter whether even the home equities the size of the runoff portfolio mortgage is lower. You assume those that had higher yields as a general case. So the stuff coming on replacement now helps replace those yields and is better in securities.
So that gives us confidence that we're starting to see the growth that helps drive the core NIM up.
And would you be looking to shift some of the liquidity pool into securities? Obviously, it would be longer duration than the liquidity pool.
I mean, as we've always said, the first place as we continue to build liquidity that we're looking to place it is within the lines of business to fund loan growth from those customers. And if you look at this quarter and you look at the balance sheet, you saw some of that in that our overall securities balances, I believe, were down about $18,000,000,000 whereas our average and overall loans were up. So clearly that the lines of business to the extent that we continue to originate priced loans that return the way that we'd like, that's where the liquidity is going to go first. The excess liquidity is invested and in this environment, we continue to be very mindful of the OCI risk and we'll manage with the mindset of mitigating that risk.
Okay, great. And then just lastly on the WIM, gross pretax margin, pretty strong number this quarter. And I know last quarter you called out some one timers. Were there any one timers in that this quarter?
Yes. The only one timer that I think jumps out is if you look at it, you can see that we actually had a negative provision of about $15,000,000 for the quarter. A more normalized provision number within that business is probably $25,000,000 to $50,000,000 but not unlike the balance of our consumer real estate portfolio. The probably the one anomaly that merits mentioning. That's probably the one anomaly that Merit's mentioning.
Betsy, we've been John Theel and David Darnell, John runs the business. And along with Keith Banks, Trust has done a good job. If you look at the revenue year over year, I think it's a 10% increase in expenses, went up 3% in the business, which as you know has high sensitivity to compensation increases. They just have been doing all the hard work and the new VAC work like everybody else. And so as the markets rose, they've benefited dramatically from
it. And so what's the targeted pretax margin there?
Over time as we look at where we are and I want to highlight over time we think that can get to a margin of 30 percent. But at the same time, I think you've accurately called out, we were 28% this quarter and we did have some benefit from the provision line.
Okay. Over time includes a higher interest rate environment?
Yes. Okay.
Remember they've got a lot of loans, deposits and lending in there too that benefits as rates run.
Absolutely. All right. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
We'll go next to the site of Matt O'Connor with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning.
Good morning.
Hi, Matt. Hi, Matt. Just within fixed income trading businesses, I mean, obviously June proved to be a tough month, I think, for a lot of folks. And it seemed like the trends were maybe a little bit weaker than we're seeing elsewhere when we factor in some of the charges that you had in the Q1.
Sure. A couple of things on the fixed income business. If we look at the and let's look at it year over year because they're tip of this business probably has the most seasonality with respect to the Q1. If you look at year over year and if you looked within the businesses within both the rates and currencies area as well as the different credit trading areas, which we look at investment grade, high yield, as well as our loan sales and trading. The performance year over year was actually pretty good.
Where we had weakness in the Q2 of this year was in 3 areas. The first is that we continue to run off the structured credit trading book and you had a pretty significant decline during the Q2 of 'thirteen relative to the prior year from the continued runoff of that book. From a P and L perspective, it's largely runoff at this point. So we're not going to have to discuss that much going forward. The other two areas on a relative basis that were weaker, we have a very significant business that's got number one market shares in the municipal finance space.
And if you look at the prices and the spread widening, it was very dramatic during the month of June in the muni space that negatively affected us. And then in the mortgage space, obviously, the market widened out significantly there and we had some lumpy items in the Q2 of 2012 as well. So I think as you look at the quarter and you look at the fixed income business, once again, we run it as a holistic business between new issue and sales and trading. The new issue business had a great quarter. Those areas where the markets were good, rates and currencies, fixed income credit trading across the board actually performed pretty well in the three areas that I mentioned.
1, because it's running off and 2, given the market dynamics didn't perform as well as we would have expected.
Okay. That's very helpful color. So just as we think about FICC going forward, maybe a little bit of a lower run rate as you're running down the or ran down the structured trading, but also hopefully less volatility given that?
I think that's fair. And just to give you a sense, Matt, the structured credit trading book this quarter was less than $100,000,000 So as you look at the go forward basis, there's just not much left.
Okay. And then separately
Matt, just
on that, just as you look at Slide 17, what Tom and Montag and team have been able to do is to continue to take advantage of opportunities. The equities business, last year we are still in a work in progress and but they have rebuilt that business and doing well. The fixed income Bruce just ran you through that. But look at the ability to drive the profit by getting the expenses lined up well. So on a year over year basis, the profit increased by $450,000,000 $460,000,000 because we're able to maintain the expense discipline at the same time as the revenue went up.
And so I think the key there is that we're trying to manage that business in the context of who we are as an entire company, I mean in the markets business and Tom and his team continue to drive where the opportunities are and FICC aside, I think had a very good quarter. But when you step back and look at it holistically, their ability quarter after quarter to drive the profit growth or a good return on capital even in more volatile spaces where we got you obviously hit a little bit and thick in the latter part of the quarter is pretty solid.
Okay. That's helpful color. I mean, we do see good core trends in the iBanking fees and of course the equities business as you mentioned. And then just separately, if we look at loan loss provision expense going forward, you gave us some components of charge offs and then just kind of big picture some more reserve release. But any thoughts on just a specific level of provision expense going forward?
I think you have been targeting 1 0.8 to 2.2 which obviously you broke through that now for a couple of quarters?
Yes. I think it's a good question. What I would point to is that credit quality across the board and particularly as you look at early stage delinquencies as well as what we're seeing as we move some of the consumer real estate out is quite strong. As we've said, we think the charge off number will come below $2,000,000,000 in the Q3. And as you look at the reserve release, the reserve release this quarter roughly $650,000,000 of it was from core reserves and roughly $250,000,000 of it was from PCI.
We can't project PCI, but I think if you look at the core $650,000,000 and take the charge off guidance that we've given absent any change in home prices, you get a sense as to where we're trending.
Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.
We'll go next to the site of John McDonald with Sanford Your line is open.
Good morning. Bruce, I was wondering if you had any sense of where we might think of legal expense going forward, came down a lot this quarter, you got some things behind you. How should we think of that number going forward?
Yes, I think John, as we look at legal expense, it's always a little bit difficult to predict. But the just under 5 $100,000,000 that we saw this quarter is clearly at an elevated level from what we'd expect long term. At the same time within the $500,000,000 there was nothing lumpy from the quarter. So it's I always hesitate to say too much on that because it is lumpy, but the $500,000,000 number as it relates to a base level, at least what we can tell in the near term is probably not a bad level to keep.
Okay. And putting expenses altogether, the $16,000,000,000 is probably a pretty good jumping off point for us to think going forward starting in the Q3?
That's correct.
Okay. And then on the quarterly LAS trend, you mentioned getting below $2,000,000,000 by the end of this year. Any thoughts on what your destination for that might be by the end of 2014? Ultimately, you want to get that number down to $500,000,000 right?
Yes. I would as we make progress, we previously said we'd get $1,000,000,000 out this year and $1,000,000,000 in 2014. We will be at a lower level at the end of 'thirteen as we said today. And I don't think it's unreasonable to think we'll get another $1,000,000,000 out in 'fourteen relative to that lower level.
Okay. Just separately, you mentioned the DTA. I assume the DTA consumption is still helping drive up your capital ratios. Could you remind us how much DTA you have right now and how much is disallowed?
Right now on a disallowed basis under Basel 1.5, it's in the zip code of $15,000,000,000 to $16,000,000,000 I think the important thing to keep in mind is during the quarter, we didn't get the benefit that you would think from DTA because the impact of OCI offset that.
Okay. But normally you'd probably be building at close to the pretax rate you said before?
Absolutely.
Okay. Last thing for me on the NII. Can you just review that again? The benefit you've talked about that's a benefit from the 10 year moving up. And did you say that you received $300,000,000 of that benefit that's already in the $10,400,000,000 that we see this quarter?
No, the $300,000,000 was in the 10.8 percent, the $10,400,000 backs out to $300,000,000
Okay. So the benefit, the $700,000,000 that's to come over the next 12 months?
Yes, the $700,000,000 would be the benefit all other things being equal off of that $10,400,000,000 number and that's just the benefit from the move in rates, not anything else to do with the balance sheet.
Okay. But you're thinking of that as helping the core number grow, right?
That's correct. The $700,000,000 that's left is all core. The $300,000,000 was in the adjust or in the pre adjustment number that we reported of $10,800,000 this quarter.
Okay. Right. That 300 wasn't core, but the next one to come is. Okay. Got it.
Correct. Okay. Thank you. Yes, so do you have and you have additional benefits beyond that if short rates rise. Is that the point you're making earlier?
Yes, that's correct. And that's the important point. As you look at and I'm just going to speak to what we had in the Q1 Q, the difference between 100 basis point parallel shift in 100 basis point on the long end is an incremental $2,100,000,000 which is to your short end question.
I mean, John, the power of the deposit franchise and the short rate rise because the mix is so transactional and core oriented. It's just that's where there's a lot of lift left. It's not shown up yet obviously because of the seatness of the curve.
Okay. Thanks.
We'll take our next question from the site of Bren Hawkins with UBS. Your line is open.
Good morning, guys.
Good morning.
Quick question. I just want to confirm, I believe you guys said in the past that there's when we look at the revenue decline from the sales in the MSR and the LAS business versus the corresponding reduction in expenses, we should kind of count on a lag on that front. Is that right?
Yes. There's always a lag of 3 to 6 months from when the work goes away to when the actual employees that are working on that as well as the expenses associated with it leave the income statement.
Okay, great. Thanks for confirming that. And in your experience, generally, how sensitive what is the MSR market the MSR purchase market like at this point? Are you guys still out there shopping MSRs? And how sensitive are those buyers to home prices?
Sure. I want to make sure we clear up one question that we get a lot on this. We worked hard to enter into the MSR sales that we entered into at the end of 2012. And a lot of the goal associated with that was to be able to reduce the work, so we could take the expenses out of our legacy assets and servicing area. We entered into a number of transactions in the Q4 of 2012 and those will close throughout 20 13.
The most significant sales have already closed and there will be some smaller sales that closed during the balance of this year. Outside of the closing of those sales, any activity that you see from an MSR perspective will only be because it makes so much sense in a result in getting out loans that are very difficult to work out. But going forward, you should not expect to see any incremental MSR sales and all the guidance we've given you with respect to expense, as well as 60 plus day delinquencies is solely based on us doing the work that we control.
Okay, that's clear. Thank you.
Thank you.
And then on your AFS portfolio, I think you guys have indicated in the past it was a roughly 2 year duration. Given your allocation to RMBS in that portfolio, did we see an extension of that duration? Can you kind of help us give an idea about what the impact might have been during the quarter?
I would as you look at that and one of the conferences that we spoke at, the comment that we had made at that point was that as you look at the impact of OCI relative to net interest income that it took between 2.5 to 3 years to be able to earn back the OCI that's lost through net interest income. And you're absolutely right that durations do widen in mortgage backed securities. So as we leave 2012, it's more in the context of 3 years to earn it back as opposed to the 2.5 to 3 years that we've spoken about previously.
Terrific. Thanks for that. And then last one for me. The results in GUM have definitely been impressive. Can you guys speak to any change we've seen in the high net worth risk appetite or behavior over the last roughly year or so and how sustainable you view that?
Well, I think year or so, I mean, I think if you went back a little shorter than that, in the Q1 as the markets move, people started putting money back in the market on a retail level on a high net worth retail level. And I think that trend has continued. There's a but there's still a lot of cash out there. And so if you look at some of the deposit dynamics, you can see that repositioning. And so we feel people are constructive.
I'm not we've got our research experts to give you their view of the S and P levels and things like that. But from a general trend, from both in our private banking clients and the willingness to borrow money and put it to work for private banking and wealth management clients and their investment patterns, we've seen their willingness to take risk go up. And so you've seen growth in our lending across the board and that's been that indicates that people are willing to take risk. I think if you look back a year ago, people were not using lines and weren't asking for a lot of lines and that's changed this in the last couple of
quarters. Cool. That's helpful. Thanks.
We'll go next to the side of Paul Miller from FBR.
Switching to the mortgage banking side, you got 5% market share which you really build back your market share over the last year, year and a half, but most of them are refis. With the refi with rates going up, what do you think that market share goes to or you think you've done a pretty good job building up your purchase sales force to maintain that?
Bruce, why don't you hit on some of that and then I'll give you some broader share.
So I think as you step back this quarter, our purchase percentage of our overall total went up to 17% from what I believe was right around 7% during the Q1. So we've started to see the purchase share go up. As we look forward, we have roughly 12% deposit market share throughout the country. And if we're doing this business as well as we believe that we can, we clearly would expect over time that that mortgage market share can grow from the 4 that we started at a year ago to the 5 that we're at today up to a high single digit market share. And as we look at where we are today relative to going forward and as we look at what some of our peers have said, the 5% decline in pipeline end of second quarter this year or end of second quarter currently versus the Q1 is reflective of the fact that we are picking up share because the pipelines aren't it's down as much as some others.
Paul, the other
thing is about 70 5%, 72%, 4%, I think it is, of the activity that we do in mortgage is really off the customer base. And so we now have more than half the mortgage loan officers that we have working through the branch, the bankers. And so that business system is really taking hold and the amount they're producing continues to grow. And that's where we've placed a lot of the growth year over year. I think we're up 700, 800 or so mortgage loan officers and mostly in that platform.
That platform performs well from both real to referral basis plus direct to consumer basis. And so we think that serves us well as the market ebbs and flows between refi purchase. And then when you look at our purchase statistics, you also have to remember that we still have probably more than other of our peers a lot of the government related refinancing business going through, which we identified for you. So if you sort of back that out you see a more represented picture of how we're doing in the purchase market. But we've got to make that transition happen and the team will work hard at it.
And then can you add some color? I mean we've been in the 1st rates have really moved up, gain on sale margins are coming down. But can you give some color where you're seeing gain on sale margins so far into the quarter? Or is it too early to tell?
This quarter for the Q3?
Yes.
I think it's too early to tell. We only had a couple of weeks activity obviously, but they came down in the quarter, Bruce, won't you?
Yes. They were down roughly, Paul, 50 basis points during the Q2 relative to the first. And as Brian indicated, it's too early to tell this quarter. Generally in this business, remember, we are this business is
a business which ebbs and flows and you know it as well as anybody. Our goal in this business is to serve our customers well and I think we've rebuilt the platform to do that and that's why we're having success. And so as the margins have come in, they're still strong. We still make money in the business. And but we've got to monitor as we go forward.
It doesn't mean that we'll have to take expenses down like everybody else will if the volumes are not big.
And did you disclose what your HAR percentage is?
If you did, I missed it.
We can get you on that. We'll get to that. I don't know it off the top of my head. No, Bruce.
It's in the 40s.
It's the other 40% I thought.
Okay. Hey, guys. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
We'll go
next to the site of Guy Moszowski with Autonomous Research. Your line is open.
Good morning, Guy.
Thank you. Good morning. Thanks for the disclosure on the supplemental leverage ratio. I was wondering if you had any assessment of what the impact might be of the BIS proposal for add ons on disallowed repo and CDS protection sold and disallowed derivatives collateral?
Yes. I think at this point, Guy, we've worked hard given that these rules came out at the end of last week to be able to get to both the parent as well as to be very specific about our 2 primary banking subsidiaries. And from best that we can tell in the different releases, that's what the U. S. Regulatory framework is focused on.
There are obviously some different views that were put out in BIS, but we don't have a number for you on that.
Okay. That's fair. I know that's early days. How will you and stipulating to the fact that clearly based on what you've told us and some stuff that we've done, you are pretty much where you would need to be on the supplemental leverage ratio per the U. S.
Take, how would you think about managing your off balance sheet lending commitments to the extent that they do drive
the denominator there? It's one
of the
gets set on this, there is a concern of do some of the policies out there possibly have an impact on the availability of undrawn credit. And so directly to your point to the extent that over time you're required to hold capital in this case in the form of a leverage ratio for committed undrawn facilities by definition the cost of those facilities to have truly committed facilities will need to migrate up over time. So there's a fair return that's generated on the capital that needs to get help for those. To the extent that they're not committed, obviously, the percentage that you need to hold is much less. But across the industry to the extent that you need to hold capital for those in greater amounts the cost will need to change over time.
Keep in mind that doesn't kick in until 2018.
Yes, fair enough. And to the numbers you gave, you obviously don't have a lot of pressure to do anything there. But you're right, it would seem like pricing of those facilities probably has to get rationalized. On the shares, you did initiate the share repurchase and you talked about that, but there was still a fairly meaningful amount of share creep in the quarter. Was that just employee grants, although I would have head back down point kind of at a high for the year in terms of the share count?
Should it head back down to where it was say in the Q1?
Guy, I'd ask you to take a look at and if you flip back to the balance sheet data that we present on Page 6, you can see that the actual number of outstanding shares for the quarter came down by 80,000,000 which is the 80,000,000 shares that we told you we repurchased. The only variation in the share count on a fully diluted basis is the treatment of the 700,000,000 shares that were associated with the Berkshire investment. And depending on the price of the stock as well as where the preferred shares are that fully diluted share count can bounce around a little bit. But on a pure shares outstanding, we came down by the 80,000,000 that we show on Slide 6.
Fair enough. Okay. I just have one more question. Thanks for the clarity on that. When do you expect at this point to have completed the rationalization of the branch system?
As you go back through in the guidance and what we've spoken about is that we wrapped up and did the new BAC for the consumer businesses at the beginning of 2011. And we had a plan to work through and to rationalize that branch network down to in the zip code of 5,000 branches by the end of 2014 and beyond 2014 at this point, we'll continue to evaluate and optimize the branch network going forward. What we've been very pleased with as we look at that optimization of the network is 2 things. The first is we rationalize the network in the markets that we operate. We've been very pleased with our retention of both consumer deposits as well as overall relationships and that is we've rationalized that network.
Our customers have continued to do business with us and just use a different branch. And the second thing that I would mention is that you've seen some announcements that in some of the more rural markets, we've actually been able to sell those branches and generate decent premiums as we've sold those. But in the near term, we've got the plans through 5,000 and we'll continue to look to optimize based on the environment that we're operating in.
But it almost sounds like based on the success that you've had that you outlined that might encourage you to take it a little bit further or would that be reading too much into it?
No, I think if you look at Page 12, you can sort of you have to sort of look at all the dynamics in there. So deposits above $50,000,000,000 from last year's Q2, the branch count down about 270,000,000 and the rate paid on deposits from 19 basis points down to 12 basis points. But importantly, we look at the mobile banking customer and look at the and the uses behind that. So this is a matter of continuing to optimize as you said, Guy, the distribution system. And it but it's going to be led by the customer behavior change.
We are seeing because of our customer base and because of our capabilities like our online banking system is rated best in business 9th year in a row and things like that. The mobile banking system gets great feedback from our customers, the constant improvement that our ability to do this is still in front of us because we've got to watch the customer behavior and how we change. There'll be some point where the core store level will probably settle in, but you're seeing it work through that if you sit there and say have 10% more deposits and 5% less branches and 30% more mobile customers, that's a pretty good dynamic towards the expense base of the platform. And so we'll continue to optimize it, but it's going to be led by our customers.
Great. Thanks so much for that.
We'll go next to the site of Chris Kotowski with Oppenheimer and Company. Your line is
open. Yes. Hi. I'm looking at the supplement on Page 23 where you go through the consumer real estate services. And looking down the column that says home lending and year to date, you have nearly $2,000,000,000 of revenues and only $94,000,000 drops to the bottom line.
And I'm wondering is that lack of profitability some vagary of segment accounting? Or is it that the business is just or is the business just kind of so marginally profitable and if so then why be in it?
Yes. The big thing there, Chris, is that remember in the home loan space, the only activity that's reflected within that is the front end or the origination side as well as a small amount of the home equity book that's held there. Keep in mind relative to our peers, the service all of the servicing asset and the profitability that comes out of the servicing asset for what I would characterize as the quote good or current servicing is all based within the legacy assets and servicing segment. So it's a little bit of apples to oranges relative to our peers as to how we will afford it.
Wait, I'm sorry, the servicing revenues are in the LAS?
That's correct.
And this is just origination?
Correct.
Okay. And is that kind of historic the norm that origination is sort of a loss leader almost? I wouldn't
extracted through servicing over time. But I think the reality is we've been building this up and investing in it. And as we sort of reach a level that where the investment is paying us back, we still have a lot of efficiency to get in this business to.
Okay. And then overall in terms of liquidity, I mean it looked like your non loan earning assets were down by almost $40,000,000,000 this quarter. How much further do you suppose you can run those down as you reduce your debt footprint?
Well, the liquidity, I think, let go back and you have to be careful with your are you referring to on the liquidity side, keep in mind the a big chunk $18,000,000,000 of what you saw was a result of what we saw in running down the debt footprint. And as we said, we've got $13,000,000,000 of maturities left in the balance of $13,000,000,000 and just under $40,000,000,000 during 2014. So we will continue to be a net reducer of our debt balances and we'd expect that to continue to benefit the net interest income line.
Okay, great. Thank you.
We'll move next to the site of Moshe Orenbuch with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Great. Thanks. Could you talk
a little about whether you either have it doesn't look like it, but whether you have or planning to kind of retain mortgage loans in the second half of the year? And I've got a follow-up question too.
I'm sorry. I'm not sure I understand your first question.
Well, I mean, when you
think about you said in terms of the investment portfolio, you'd be cognizant of the AOCI impact. You could achieve a similar objective without that by retaining just retaining residential mortgages.
Sure. Okay. So the we would expect and if you look at during the quarter and you look at the composition, and keep in mind, Moshe, that you do have loans repay, but during the quarter, as it relates to the origination activity that we had with our core clients that there were about $13,000,000,000 of residential mortgage loans that were originated through the core platform, roughly a third of which were through our wealth management area and the balance through our CBB segment. So there is an origination of activity. And as I said, the investment portfolio is there to invest the residual of what's used.
There will be some incremental investments during the year, but I don't think in the aggregate you should expect to see the overall level of securities balances change dramatically between now and the end of the year. Got it.
And maybe given that you've been kind of ahead of or meeting at least or regulatory capital levels kind of faster than some of your large peers, what are the areas that you think could benefit from incremental kind of capital investment or where they might be divesting? Are there any opportunities there?
What we're focused on and you've seen 2 different levels of activities amongst our peers. You've seen some looking to deploy and to invest in those areas where there are things that are being sold. What you're going to see us and I think you see some of it as you look at our commercial loan activities, We're very much focused given the capital and liquidity that we've built and using that capital and liquidity within our core customer segments. And so when you look at that liquidity, if you look at our wealth management business, you'll see that the loan balances were up $5,000,000,000 Q1 to Q2 because of what we're doing from a securities lending perspective and a mortgage lending perspective. You look at the commercial loan balances and so they were up $10,000,000,000 that's not from buying loans or doing anything else.
I do think though to your point, some of that comes from being able to lend where other people are pulling back. So you're not going to see anything inorganic that we're doing. What you will see and what you should expect of us is to continue to driving those growth in those customer areas where because of the dynamics that you've mentioned, other people may be doing less. If
you link this question to the last question about sort of the efficiency of the mortgage business, year over year we deployed about 5,000 people, about 25% increase to make sure we can close mortgage on time and meet the demand of the customers. So at the same time, the headcount of the overall company is down significantly. We've had that kind of investment go on. We have more commercial bankers today than we had a year ago. We have more small business bankers, financial service advisor branches.
So we continue to make the investment. It's not really about capital, I think, because we still have so many loan portfolios are running off that if we replace them, it'd be good core growth to replace them. It's more about expense dollars and redeploy them and that's where we make the judgments right now. And so the business is returning our cost of capital on the allocated capital which is regulatory minimums or above. But it's really the question where you put expense dollars and that's where we're focused on sort of the core business if we have the best opportunity.
And so maybe just to follow-up on that Brian, I mean do you have a number in mind as to how much you would look to kind of reinvest of the expense savings that you're generating?
It's a net number. So we don't give you a number that doesn't take account. But for this year, just to give you an example, we'll spend $1,100,000,000 to in connection with the new BAC ideas, which are expense revenue and improving our company basis that is on top of the $2,500,000,000 we spend otherwise in systems development, that's pure systems development initiatives to help drive this company. So there's investment going in, but all the numbers we give you are net of all the investments we're making. So we just we're giving you a net number, but we are investing significantly at the same time.
And that was what Bruce and the team management team set out a few years ago was we had to make sure we progress the core franchise at the same time we bought the expense base and headcount down.
Great. Thanks.
We'll go next to the side of Nancy Bush with NAB Research. Your line is open.
Good morning. Two questions for you. You've made gains in market share in mortgage and you said that you have stabilized the credit card. Are you going to be able to gain share in credit card? And how do you look to do that?
I think we're in a position, Nancy, the first time in a long while to we've been saying stabilizing credit card for a couple of quarters because we've seen it sort of settle in. We divested some portfolios, as you know. We sized out of some of the business that we didn't find attractive. In this quarter, we saw an increase for the first time, I think, in almost 5 years. And so the team produced about 975,000 cards through the new cards this quarter, up from 9.50 ish last quarter.
That is a multi year high in production, I think goes back to 2,008. So we should see this go on. Now you have activity levels, you got to be careful in the summer and things like that. But overall, the baseline is set now. That restructured portfolio, which we've shown you guys, I think started $15,000,000,000 $20,000,000,000 several years ago and is down a few 1,000,000,000 So the underlying dynamics are there that we should be able to grow the business and hold our share.
And if you look over the last couple of quarters, we're basically flat as share wise and card balances, a little bit down, but in line with the peers. And so we feel good that we finally reached this point after 5 years of hard work of restructuring that business.
So though do you feel that I mean is it a business where you want to gain share? If you could just sort of give your overall philosophy on the credit card business right now?
We will continue to drive share among our customers. We have low penetration in certain segments and low uses of our cards in other segments. And so we're driving it through the 3 or 4 core products, the Cash 1, 2, 3 product for people to feel that's what they want in a card through the travel rewards and other rewards products. And we're seeing the cards come in through those core products and we're driving. And yes, we want to grow share in the context of our customers and in select affinity teams that we work with across the country.
The second question I have is somewhat imprecise and I apologize in advance. But I think what everybody is waiting for with your stock and with the earnings outlook is for this massive deposit gathering network to get profitable. And we understand that that is a function of short rates going up. Is there an idea I mean, can you kind of walk us through this? Is there an ideal yield curve?
Is there an absolute level of short rates? I mean, whatever what do we have to see to begin to see the branches get massively profitable?
Well, the first thing to your point, if we look at and if you go to the Q2, the deposit segment within CVV did make $500,000,000 during the quarter. As we look forward though more directly to your point, to the extent that the overall yield curve shifts up and this is once again in our Q1 Q that the benefit from a net interest income perspective on a 100 basis point parallel shift as of the end of the Q1 was over $3,500,000,000 the lion's share of which is going to flow through the consumer segment. So as it relates to where we are now, it is profitable. We made almost $500,000,000 We continue to optimize and to reduce the expenses to make it more profitable. And you're correct, once rates go up, it will become much more so.
If I could just finally ask a corollary to that question. Because of all the issues that you've had in the past few years with closing branches, changing branch models, several different sort of programs to change the retail footprint of the company. Is there going to be a need as rates go up to give more of that benefit to your customers? In other words, are you going to have to act differently in deposit pricing this time around than you have in previous rate cycles?
I think Nancy, think about a lot of adjustments we made on the fee side for the general consumer customer have already been made. And I think they have the customers have benefited dramatically from our position and how we overdrafts and other types of fees. So I think that that will be that is the following up your point that payback to customers. As deposit as rates rise, we will meet the market and grow with the market as we've been doing. But interesting enough, remember that the constitution of our deposits across the last 3 years, we have run off a lot of CDs and other things, which are not advantage products and it's really become more and more core every single quarter and that will play to our benefit because transactional deposits, checking accounts, non interest at this point.
So as rates rise, there's no extra cost.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
And we'll take our final question from the site of Mike Mayo from CLSA. Your line is open.
Good morning. I have 3 real small questions and then one bigger question. What tax rate should we assume to be normal?
At this point, as we've said, 30% is a reasonable effective tax rate for the last two quarters of the year, realizing that you need to add about $1,100,000,000 to that for the U. K. Tax. And as we go into 2014 and 2015, that 30% migrates into more of a 32%, 33% effective tax rate based on what we think we will be earning as we go into
secondly, the G win margin of 28%, I'm just trying to compare that to the old Merrill Lynch Wealth Management margin and you have the Asset Management and U. S. Trust in there. Can you just give us some estimate where that 28% margin would be? Would it be 26% or 25% or?
Where would it be? I'm not sure Mike what
Excluding U. S. Trust and excluding asset management, in other words just a pure brokerage business, what kind of margin did that have? I'm just I'm trying to see if this is the highest brokerage margin ever perhaps if you can go back to the old Merrill Lynch?
We don't disclose the difference between I think what you're asking is, is the margin in U. S. Trust materially different than what it is in the traditional Merrill Lynch Wealth Management model. And you should not assume that the margin improvement and the 28% is driven by a mix. Virtually all of that margin is driven by overall what we're seeing within what you characterized as the traditional wealth management business of Merrill Lynch.
Okay. Thank you. And then as far as net interest income, you said you had a $300,000,000 benefit this quarter from the increase in the 10 year. So am I just doing the math right? You had $10,500,000,000 of net interest income.
So it added 3% just this last quarter or really in the last month. It just seems like a lot. I mean that's a nice benefit.
Well, keep in mind, Mike, and if you flip to Slide 9, we show both the reported as well as the actual number. And the reason why that increase in interest rates led to the improvement in NII is because you need to adjust the way you look at premium securities when rates go up to reflect the slowdown in the rate at which you'd expect to be paid back. So that is a more of a life of loan type adjustment and that's why it's $300,000,000 It's the reason why we show you the number both ways.
Okay. And then lastly, the legal expense came way down, you expect to stay around $500,000,000 but I'm still focused on the $8,500,000,000 settlement and I go down to the courthouse in Lower Manhattan. And what I think I hear and again correct my thinking, what I think I hear some lawyers say that Bank of New York rubber stamped the $8,500,000,000 therefore throw the $8,500,000,000 deal out. What I think I hear the Kathy Patrick side say is except the $8,500,000,000 deal it's the best economic alternative out there. So my question is you have $8,500,000,000 of reserves to the $8,500,000,000 settlement.
Your disclosures say if the judge does not approve the deal your reserves would go higher. So my question is how much higher would your reserves go if the judge does not approve the deal? And what part of my logic would you like to perhaps correct?
The first is that we're not going to comment on the ins and the outs on the $8,500,000,000 because as you know, technically that's we're not a part of that. The second thing is it relates to that that I would say is and I think if you go back and look at one of the comments that was made, we accrued the $8,500,000,000 assuming that all 4.24 trusts were at the point where they got to the 25% to where there was a negotiation. So at this point to comment whether or not we think the reserves would be higher or they could be lower is really not appropriate because right now there's an $8,500,000,000 settlement that's going through the process. We've accrued based on what 22 of the largest investors said was a fair deal. And as you know, when we set up the reserves, we applied that same methodology to a variety of our other exposures and to speculate or to comment before then given where we are on this, I just don't think is appropriate, Mike.
Sure. I think last quarter, you thought it would all be wrapped up by now. Any sense of when this might be wrapped up, when you might have this behind you?
I'm not sure that we ever said that we thought it would be wrapped up in the Q2. What we do know is what you know now given how you followed the case that I believe that there is a court schedule set up through the 26th July. It's not clear whether or not it will be wrapped up by the 26th or will go beyond that and we'll just have to see how the process unfolds.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you. And I believe at this point that we're through all the questions. So thank you very much for joining us this morning and we'll look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you.
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