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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

Apr 15, 2020

Speaker 1

Everyone and welcome to today's Bank of America Earnings Announcement. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. Please note this call may be recorded. I will be standing by should you need any assistance.

It is now my pleasure to turn today's conference over to Lee McIntyre, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Thank you, Catherine. Thanks for joining the call to review our Q1 results. By now, I hope everybody's had a chance to review the earnings release documents that are available on the Investor Relations section of the bankofamerica.com website. For the many years I've been in IR, I've always joined the other speakers in the same room as we presented earnings.

But this quarter, look, we, like all of you, are practicing following safe physical distancing protocols and we're joining this morning from different locations. So first, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Brian Moynihan, for some opening remarks. And then I'll ask Paul DiNoprio, our CFO, to cover the quarter briefly before turning back to Brian to moderate a question session. So hopefully, this will make the session go a little bit smoother. Before I turn the call over to Brian, let me remind you, we may make forward looking statements during this call.

For further information on forward looking comments, please refer to either our earnings release documents, our website or our SEC filings. Over to you, Brian.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Lee, and good morning to all of you and thank you for joining us to review our results. It has been an eventful quarter, but I hope all of you are safe and your families are well during this war on the COVID virus. As you think about our quarter, our decade plus long discipline of responsible growth has resulted in us strengthening our balance sheet and making investments in technology and people and talent over the decade has helped us prepare for this environment. Today, we're going to do 3 things with you. First, I'm going to provide a couple of high level thoughts on the quarter.

2nd, I'm going to make sure you know how we're supporting our teammates, our customers, our communities and delivering for you, our shareholders, during this crisis and third, Paul will cover the results in more detail. I'll start this discussion by covering the chart on Slide 2 along with the comments on Slide 3, which go with the chart. Given the volatility in the last couple of months and the global slowdown, I'm proud of Bank of America and our team's results. I want to thank my 2,009,000 teammates across our company for all of their efforts this quarter, both in the frontline roles and support functions. It's been a company wide effort to continue to serve our customers well during these times.

As I said many times, we're in a war against the COVID-nineteen and at Bank of America, we're doing our part to help fight the effects of that war. We do that by living our purpose. We're helping people manage our financial lives through this crisis. My teammates know they're playing a critical role for their clients, whether the people, whether companies of all different sizes and institutional investors. Their role is to help keep the economy moving as best we can during this health care crisis.

The role is we have seen major disruption in the financial markets that affected every line of business as customers move to stay at home status through voluntary or involuntary measures. In the United States and around the world, governments have responded to historic measures in a very short period of time. Central banks, governments and others have responded to provide tremendous liquidity to keep the markets functioning and to protect individuals and businesses at an historic scale. The banking industry continues to play a vital role. We're well capitalized with strong liquidity and we have helped transmit the benefits of these programs as well as our own measures in the economy and markets.

So let's cover our Q1 performance. In the Q1 2020, Bank of America produced $4,000,000,000 of after tax earnings. This includes building our loan loss reserve by $3,600,000,000 over charge offs, and that's due to the economic deterioration of the global economy as a result of the virus. Earnings per share were $0.40 Earnings were down $3,300,000,000 from last year. This was led by the reserve build.

I think it's useful to draw your attention to the pretax, pre provision income line as we believe it helps illustrate the underlying earnings power of the company to support the credit costs that are inevitable in a downturn. We produced $9,300,000,000 of pre tax pre provision income in the Q1 of 2020. That was down 5% from the Q1 of 2019. That is relatively strong given the changes in interest rates that have occurred, the widening credit spreads and other changes across the past 12 months, particularly in the last quarter or so. During this period, we maintained our strong balance sheets.

Global Markets clients' needs for liquidity temporarily increased our balance sheet during the quarter by as much as $130,000,000,000 from year But through the efforts of Tom Montag and team, we ended the quarter marginally up. Small business originations, not from any of the special programs, were 2 point $4,000,000,000 during this quarter, showing support for that segment of the economy. We also met our larger commercial borrowing customers' demands with commercial loans increasing $67,000,000,000 as clients drew down against their unfunded commitments and new commitments were made. In addition to these fundings, which reduced commitments, we also had requests for new commitments. Remember, some of the commitments that we're making are for clients like grocers, healthcare companies and others who need liquidity because of the rising demand for their services during this time.

At the same time, we returned $7,900,000,000 in capital to our shareholders. And as you know, during the quarter, we voluntary chose to suspend the buyback portion of those distributions to share capital for expected customer growth. We did all that in our common equity Tier 1 ratio of 10.8%, still finished 130 basis points above 9.5% minimum. From our liquidity standpoint, we ended the period with $700,000,000,000 in liquidity, increasing $120,000,000,000 from year end. Driving that increase was deposits increasing $149,000,000,000 far exceeding our $67,000,000,000 expansion in our loan portfolio.

Moving away from the balance sheet and on to earnings, a couple of highlights I'd point out. NIA finished a bit better than expected at $12,300,000,000 on an FTE basis, flat with 4th quarter. Capital Markets revenue was strong. Sales and trading revenues, excluding DVA, were up 22% year over year and investment banking fees were up 10% year over year. We had a record quarter in Fab Gallo's equities trading business.

Our non interest expense was a touch better than expected as well at $13,500,000,000 Net charge offs remained low at a little more than $1,000,000,000 up $163,000,000 from last quarter driven by an uptick in commercial. Obviously, returns to the quarter moved lower given the reserve build, return on tangible common equity was 8.3%. Let's turn to Slide 4. Just as important as our financial results this quarter is what we're doing to take care of our teammates and to help clients and communities impacted by the virus. We do this not only because it's the right thing to do, but also in the end, it will benefit you, the shareholder.

Many of our teammates are on the front lines of this effort, including daily engagement with clients, whether it's in our financial centers, which remain open, financial advisors guiding their clients through the turbulent times or the capital liquidity we're providing to companies across the businesses. To be able to do all these great things to support clients, our first priority since this crisis was to address the health and safety of our teammates. We've taken that teammate centric view of our efforts because it's the right thing to do and we need these teammates to do a great job for the clients. We've taken extensive measures in our business continuity work to prevent teammate exposure to the buyers. We've established multiple occasions for important work of our trading operations and call center platforms and otherwise enabled social distancing by moving more than 150,000 people to work from home.

That means ensuring that they have appropriate tools and resources and we have the appropriate control protocols for them to do their day to day work. To give you a sense of scale, we have deployed about 90,000 laptops in the last 60 days across the company. We've moved quickly to assure social distancing in our facilities that are still open, installed additional protective barriers in all our branches, then the outstanding operations environments and post to healthcare professionals at our facilities to help anybody. We're also taking measures to help our employees better handle the stresses in their personal lives. You can see some highlight here.

One example has been our increased childcare support. We allow teammates to hire relatives and others so they can work given school and daycare outages. Our Life Event Services team provides teammates with personalized support, resources, tools and access to benefits and we're providing special compensation teammates in the financial centers, operation centers and call centers. We also hired 2,000 teammates in March to continue to increase the staffing we need, especially in the consumer related areas to handle our clients' needs. And we announced that there will be no layoffs during 2020 of our teammates.

Our previous announced $20 an hour minimum compensation is now in effect and reflected in the numbers you're seeing across the company. And we confirmed our commitment to bring on our 3,000 young kids for summer jobs and starting their first job whether graduating college or graduate school. Taking care of the employees is the right thing to do, enables them each to play the important role they must provide as critical providers of services to help the economy keep rolling through the virus. We're doing that in many ways. In addition to keeping our financial center open to many things I mentioned earlier, we're doing more for our clients through these times.

Customers are struggling to make their payments or calling the bank with deferral requests on loans and fees and waiver of fees. As in other disruptive events that we've done for hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes and other things over time, we work with them. Since the humanitarian crisis began, we received more than 1,000,000 requests for assistance through early April. We've seen the volume of the deferrals, however, reduced since the peak a week or 2 ago, and we'll see where the bill is next. We provide a chart on the material beginning on Slide 5 about the deferrals.

As you can see in our case, the largest number of requests has come from cardholders, but as a percentage of loans, we have the most requests from our small business clients. These clients are at the heart of the governmental programs and are also at the heart of businesses that were shut down due to the stay at home orders by governments. One of the things that's different about this business for us is it led to doctors, dentists and others. They have deferred payments until they can reopen their practices. We're a leading lender to them and you'll see those recover as they go back to business.

Our mortgage requests remain relatively low in volume For all our customers, we've also suspended foreclosures or repossessions of autos, which may have been pending. Our affluent clients are also looking for our company in these turbulent times. We've been there for clients with both upgraded systems and capabilities to allow them to trade a centralized investment office supplementing 20,000 advisors' capabilities to talk to the clients and give advice and counsel. Client engagement during the quarter was up 2 thirds from last year, even as our advisors work from home. For small business clients, we built the 1st digital platform for the PPP program We launched it 12 days ago.

The team is working hard to drive over 300,000 requests for funding through the process so that we can get those loans funded. As stated earlier, our regular way small business support was over $2,000,000,000 in the quarter. For larger clients, we provided $67,000,000,000 in access to earned funding commitments. Imagine the speed and capacity that our team did to absorb the request so quickly and get them funded over the course of the quarter. These commitments are much needed liquidity bridge for many clients, especially in light of the rapid changes that occurred in March in the commercial paper markets and in the debt markets.

As those markets opened up, we also saw strong debt capital markets issuances for clients. In fact, March ended up being the busiest month ever for U. S. High grade market with approximately $260,000,000,000 of total issuance. The previous record was $171,000,000,000 and we led the market.

April has continued at this busy pace and it's been good to see that Access is expanding to high yield clients. For our institutional trading clients, we have provided an operationally sound system with improving speeds of trading. In a single day, we had $1,700,000,000,000 in payment value made. Again, the investments made over the past years to our trading platforms delivered more speed and capacity to make that possible, and in all doing while maintaining good controls. The clients we serve in that business had witnessed severe volatility in markets, and we over provide them with liquidity when needed.

Do. Since the month end spike, you can see that Tom since the mid month spike, Tom and the team managed the balance sheet into the place we needed to be at the end of the quarter. Lastly, to assure communities around the U. S. Where we live and work got some assistance before the government money came to help.

We announced a $100,000,000 donation to fight to help fight the virus outcomes and supply bottle support across those communities. Our market presence and other leaders are playing a vital role in these critical actions. We've also increased our capital to community development financial institutions by $250,000,000 on top of our industry leading $1,500,000,000 commitment to these institutions. As we've discussed each quarter and frequently over the last decade, we've transformed our company so we can serve clients consistently across all areas. We've added a slide in the appendix to remind you how much the company has improved its balance sheet position and risk profile since the last crisis.

The self distress testing illustrate our preparedness, but we're now being tested in a new environment. We didn't know what economic challenge might cause us to have to demonstrate these resilience, and that challenge is upon us now. I remain very proud of what my teammates have accomplished across every dimension to help us be ready, and I'm proud of the part to playing to help the world win this war against this virus. An area that we've focused on also is consumer spending. We've seen a shift in consumer payments and this is on slide beginning on slide 6.

Overall, a couple of months ago, in a healthy U. S. Economy, payments were running at high single digit, in fact, in some cases, a low double digit percentage increase over the same period prior of 2020, January February versus 2019, January February. And in fact, that would have shown that the economy this quarter probably was going to grow faster than people expected. That changed the virus spread and you can see that impact here on Slide 6.

We saw a severe immediate decline in discretionary payments for travel, leisure and other things that you've read about in entertainment This was followed immediately by large increases in payments for necessities around groceries and staples like health supplies, etcetera. Then as large cities and states began to move to voluntary and mandated stay at home status orders, we saw large declines in debit and credit card spending into other categories. At the same time, we've also noted a stabilizing going on in the level of payments in other areas like ACH cash, wires and P2B payments. The broader measure is the black line in the chart. As you can see, overall payments have declined but remained at a high single digit pace year over year, moving down from double digit pace to around 8%.

The total movement in the U. S. Has been pulled down by a significant decline in the card spending, which has been affected by the travel, entertainment and other related areas and retail areas, and that's gone from 7% to 8% to only 2% increases in the month of March, and it has fallen into negative territory in April. The overall spending, however, of all types of spending in our customers seems to have stabilized in the last few weeks. During mid April, we're seeing spending run at about a low $50,000,000,000 average level compared to a $60,000,000,000 average level before the crisis that's per week spending.

We'll see how that plays out through this quarter and that stability may provide insight to the level of economy activity in the shutdown status. Our digital bank capabilities have helped with both customer service and sales, while our financial center visits are down and sales are down because of that. We've seen consumer digital logins remain steady as people manage their financial lives on a digital basis. Digital sales are down, but they're now running about 50% of the total sales. Our loan production for cars, mortgage and other products has fallen week by week.

Through the 1st 2 weeks of April, comparing that to the February average levels, we're seeing them down 55% for card origination, 40% for mortgage and 60% for autos. Again, we're watching to see these stabilize at some level of activity even given the shutdown economy. And we'll keep watching that as states, cities and the federal government focuses on reopening the economy. On slide 7, you can see the couple of charts showing the commercial line draw velocity and deposits in March. In total, we saw a $67,000,000,000 increase in commercial loans due to draws from commercial clients in the month of March.

45% of these fundings came from large commercial clients, 40% were from large corporate bank customers and remainder was spread across all the businesses. As for the asset quality, what we funded, 92% of these were collateralized or were made to investment grade clients and less than $100,000,000 were made to clients whose loans became non performing. The draws were well diversified by industry and were largely driven by U. S. Borrowers.

From a capital standpoint, we're already at risk weighting these commitments at 50% under standardized capital, so the additional impact to CET1 from these draws was roughly 25 basis points for the quarter. The draw activity was pretty normal through the 1st week of March, but ramped up in the 2nd week before peaking in the 3rd week of the month. The requests have come down in every one of the last 3 weeks. And as we've seen, we've turned into April, draw requests and new credit requests have mitigated at these levels. We're seeing clients' attentions turn from securing liquidity to more structured view of their capital position and their needs to better understand how they will prosper and fare in the COVID-nineteen impacted business model.

We observed earlier that the commercial paper market froze in the middle of the quarter as new rounds of virus worsened, clients were unable to access the CP markets. As the Fed announced their programs, we saw that market stabilize and over time here we've seen it lengthen out so draws can be for long periods of time. It's worth noting since we have one of the premier global treasury service platforms in the world, we saw many of those draws come back in our balance sheets as deposits. While the 75% of loan draws were not used for other pay downs ended up as deposits with our company. In addition to that, at the bottom of the slide, you can see the growth in deposits by every line of business.

Global Banking deposits rose $94,000,000,000 which is unusual for sure. We also saw a 30 $2,000,000,000 increase in consumer deposits with 65% of that being checking. That has been our normal. In fact, it's the 28th quarter, the last 29 that we've had year over year growth of $20,000,000,000 or more in consumer banking deposits. Wealth managed deposits reflect a flight to cash in the Q1, but have been stabilizing last year, as you can see in the charts Paul will show you later.

So with that, let me turn it over to Paul.

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Thanks, Brian. Good morning, everyone. I am beginning on Slide 8 with the balance sheet. Overall, compared to the end of Q4, the balance sheet expanded 186,000,000,000 dollars driven by an increase in deposits of $149,000,000,000 Deposit growth in excess of our loan growth was invested primarily in cash or cash equivalents. As Brian mentioned, the team did an incredible job of not only providing our global markets clients needed liquidity from a mid March spike, but also reducing those levels by the end of the quarter.

Shareholders' equity of $265,000,000,000 was stable with year end, but included some offsetting factors. AOCI increased $6,500,000,000 reflecting several factors, but was driven by a $4,800,000,000 improvement in the valuation of AFS debt securities. Offsetting this increase to equity were 2 items, share repurchases and common dividends of $7,900,000,000 exceeded our $4,000,000,000 of earnings given the reserve build this quarter. And as a reminder, we booked a reduction in equity on January 1 by adopting CECL. Now with respect to CECL, we elected the 5 year transition option made available under the Fed rule to delay any capital effects of CECL until 2022.

The January 1 reserve build plus Q1's $3,600,000,000 build equate to a total increase in the reserve of $6,900,000,000 since year end. Assuming no regulatory relief, including the original relief planned for day 1 adoption, our CET1 ratio would be 22 basis points lower than we reported. The relief received in late March accounted for 12 of the 22 basis points. As you know, a portion of the CET1 impact of future reserve increases or decreases during the emergency period will also be delayed until 2022. Beginning in Q1 of 2022, we will begin phasing in the 22 basis point reduction for these impacts in equal quarterly amounts through 2025.

With respect to our CET1, our CET1 standardized ratio declined 40 basis points to 10.8 percent driven by a $70,000,000,000 increase in RWA. Increases in counterparty risk in global markets and increased loan revolver draws in global banking drove the RWA increase. Lastly, our TLAC ratios remain comfortably above our requirement. Given the time constraints and Brian's points earlier on ending deposits, I will skip the discussion on average deposits on Slide 8 and move to Slide 9. Earlier, Brian also discussed our loan growth near the end of the quarter, which was driven by revolver draws.

Some of that growth affected the growth of average loans presented on Slide 10. Q2 should further reflect this late quarter growth. Year over year average growth has been consistently in the mid single digit range and early Q1 trends were similar to that. Note the significant increases across consumer and GWIM, which was driven by residential mortgage given continued low interest rates. This quarter we originated $19,000,000,000 in first mortgage loans retaining 94% on our books.

We continue to see good follow through on a large pipeline, but apps are down in the past couple of weeks. I would also note credit card balances. Average credit card loans were down a bit more than the typical seasonality, given the drop off in consumer spending late in the quarter, while customer payment rates continued at a fairly steady pace. Given the significant drop in card spending, we expect card balances to decline further in Q2. Okay, turning to Slide 11 and net interest income.

On a GAAP non FTE basis, NII in Q1 was $12,100,000,000 $12,300,000,000 on an FTE basis and was relatively flat compared to Q4 2019. One less day of interest and lower asset yields, driven by lower rates, negatively impacted NII this quarter. 2 primary things offset these negative impacts. First, we saw good loan and deposit growth. 2nd, lower rates reduced the cost of our long term debt and improved our funding costs in global markets.

The lower rates also allowed us to price our deposits more efficiently in Wealth Management and Global Banking. Before I discuss our forward view of NII, I want to emphasize that future NII results will be influenced by interest rates as well as loan and deposit balances, which will likely be highly influenced by the virus's impact on the economy. Both of these drivers have been volatile and may continue to be. In terms of the forward guidance, as you know, interest rates dropped significantly over the past 90 days. On the short end, 1 month LIBOR, which impacts variable rate loan pricing, as well as longer term rates, which impact mortgage and mortgage related assets, have both dropped nearly 80 basis points on a

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spot basis.

Speaker 4

As you think about our NII for the rest of the year, I would point you to the asset sensitivity disclosure for our banking book at twelvethirty one before we experienced these rate declines. Banking book sensitivity from an instantaneous parallel drop of 100 basis points in rate at that time was estimated to reduce NII by $6,500,000,000 over the following 12 months. Since these rates moved less than 100 basis points, the change in NII over the next 12 months is likely to be less than $6,500,000,000 I would also note some additional items to consider that are expected to mitigate some of that decline. First, we have grown both loans and deposits significantly more than what would have been assumed in that asset sensitivity at year end. 2nd, our deposit pricing actions have been pretty swift.

And last, the asset sensitivity of the banking book does not include the benefits to NII of the trading book, which is a little liability sensitive. With that said, we would expect the largest decline in NII over the balance of 2020 to impact Q2 as the bulk of the repricing of our variable rate loans should happen fairly quickly. Considering all these factors, particularly the virus' impact on the economy and interest rates, we believe NII could approach $11,000,000,000 in Q2 and then begin to stabilize with loan and deposit growth mitigating the negative impacts of longer term asset repricing. Turning to Slide 12 and expenses. At 13,500,000,000 this quarter, expenses were up 2%.

They were 2% higher than Q1 2019 as increased investments throughout 2019 in people, real estate and technology initiatives were partially offset by savings from operational excellence initiatives. Compared to Q4 2019, expense increased roughly $250,000,000 reflecting nearly 400,000,000 dollars and seasonally elevated payroll tax expense. With respect to our outlook, we are still assessing the impacts both positive and negative that the virus has had on the company's expenses and as such are not in a position to provide any updates to our previous expectation that expense would be in the mid $53,000,000,000 range this year. As a reminder, that mid $53,000,000,000 number was before considering the dissolution of our BAM's JV and surrounding actions. With respect to impacts of the pandemic, on the one hand, there are many costs that decline such as travel, meeting costs, lodging, conferences and lower power costs for unused facilities.

Incentives will align with financial performance and market levels. But on the other hand, as you heard Brian mentioned earlier, there are costs associated with protecting, supporting and rewarding our employees during this health crisis, including suspending headcount reductions related to COVID for the rest of 2020. We also have costs from the setup, operation and cleaning of backup facilities for trading and other activities. This would include the cost of computers and other supplies and expenses to reposition 150,000 associates to work from home. Okay, turning to asset quality on Slide 13.

Our underwriting standards have been responsible and strong for years now, and we expect this strength to differentiate us as we advance through this health crisis. For years now, we have been focused on client selection and getting paid appropriately for the risk we take. As you all know, what really impacts banks in recession is not the loans put on your books during stress, but rather the quality of your portfolio booked during the years leading up to stress. One independent indicator of the relative quality of our balance sheet is the Federal Reserve's annual CCAR stress test. Our net charge off ratio under those stress tests has been lower than peers in 6 of the last 7 years.

And our consistent focus on asset quality has been reflected in our results for many years now. Adjusted for the recoveries of loan sales in some periods as described before, we have reported net charge offs between 900 $1,000,000,000 for many quarters. Total net charge offs this quarter were $1,100,000,000 or 46 basis points of average loans. Net charge offs rose $163,000,000 from Q4, driven by commercial losses with the largest contribution coming from energy exposure. We saw a small seasonal increase in card losses.

Provision expense was 4,800,000,000 dollars Our reserve build of $3,600,000,000 reflects the expected increase in life of own losses given the weaker current and expected economic conditions as a result of the virus. On Slide 14, we break out the credit quality metrics for both consumer and commercial portfolios. Q1 is too early to see any significant effects of COVID on net charge offs. However, there were a couple of leading indicators of deteriorating asset quality in our commercial portfolio due to the virus as both NPLs and reservable criticized exposures increased. On the consumer front, COVID's effect on asset quality were less observable.

This is likely due to deferral offers extended to consumer borrowers. Moving forward, we believe deferrals coupled with government stimulus for individuals and small businesses should aid in minimizing future losses. Having said that, given the rise in unemployment claims, we do expect consumer losses to increase later this year and potentially into 2021. Turning to Slide 15. This table provides a full picture of our allowance increase since Twelvethirty Onetwenty 19, including the Oneonetwenty implementation of CECL, as well as this quarter's build given the worsening economic conditions.

As you can see, our allowance, including reserves for unfunded commitments was $10,200,000,000 at year end and now stands at $17,100,000,000 That is nearly a $7,000,000,000 increase or 67% since year end. Note that we ended Q1 with an allowance to loan and leases of 1.51%. I would also note the increase in the coverage ratio for credit card increased to 8.25 percent and the coverage ratios for U. S. Commercial and commercial real estate increased to 1.1 percent and 2.16 percent respectively.

These ratios reflect our underwriting standards over the 10 years as well as our loan mix with a large concentration of secured consumer loans. We sized the increase to our allowance in the quarter by weighting a number of different scenarios, all of which assumed a recession of various depth and longevity, including an assumption of some tail risk similar to what is in the severely adverse scenarios. A weighting of these scenarios produced a recessionary outlook, which includes a marked drop in GDP in Q2. Growth recovered slowly from there with negative growth rates in GDP extending well into 2021. Obviously, there are many unknowns, including how government's fiscal and monetary actions will impact the outcome and how our own deferral programs will impact losses.

But perhaps the biggest unknown is how long, how long economic activity and conditions will be significantly impacted

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by the virus.

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Okay, turning to the business segments and starting with Consumer Banking on Slide 16. Consumer Banking earned 1,800,000,000 dollars Results were impacted by COVID-nineteen through lower rates, higher provision expense and modest fee reductions. As you know, banking is considered an essential service and across the country, we have kept more than 75% of our financial centers open. In addition, we've added personnel to service calls and manage digital interactions, not only with respect to existing products and services, but also on small business applications to the Paycheck Protection Program. Many of these additional personnel are working from home.

While net income declined 45% from Q1 2019, it's worth noting that pre tax pre provision income declined 12%. Revenue decline driven by lower interest rates as well as the impact of COVID-nineteen. Aside from the higher provision costs, consumer fees also reflected modestly lower consumer spending and fee waivers beginning late in the quarter. We continued to invest in the franchise, driving expenses up 3% year over year. We added new and renovated financial centers, sales people and increased minimum wages, plus the additional associates added to service calls I just mentioned.

The expansion of these investments continued to be mitigated by process improvements, digitalization and technology improvements. Investments supported continued growth in loans as well as deposits. As a result, our cost of deposits declined to 150 basis Client momentum continued as we saw average deposits increase $40,000,000,000 from Q1 2019, average loans increased 8% and we continue to add consumer investment accounts and saw solid flows into our Merrill Edge platform. Let's skip Slide 18, as I think I covered much of the trends on Slide 17 already. The ability of our customers to connect through digital banking has never been more important.

As you can see on Slide 18, all aspects of digital engagements continued to increase with 1 third of sales now processed through digital channels. And as you heard that and as you heard that moved higher in the last few weeks of the quarter. We learned a lot from our digital auto and mortgage experiences and what we learned enabled us to quickly launch a digital pathway for our small businesses to apply for loans in the Paycheck Protection Program. Turning to Global Wealth and Investment Management on Slide 19. Here again, we saw lower rates and COVID-nineteen related credit costs impact an otherwise solid quarter.

Note the impact of lower market levels in March. Those impacts did not impact Q1 AUM fees as March fees were calculated based upon market levels at the end of February. Merrill Lynch and the private bank both continued to grow clients as well as remain a provider of choice for affluent clients. Net income of $866,000,000 was down 17% from Q1 2019, but here again, pretax pre provision income was down a more modest 4%. Revenue grew 2% year over year as a strong increase in AUM fees and brokerage fees were partially offset by a decline in NII as a result of lower interest rates.

Expenses increased from revenue related incentives as well as investments we made in the past 12 months in sales professionals, technology and our brand. Okay, let's skip Slide 20 and move to Global Banking on Slide 21. The early impacts of COVID-nineteen were more evident in this segment. First, LIBOR fell rapidly in March, impacting loan yields. At the same time, revolver withdrawals didn't happen until late in the quarter and will likely be more fully reflected in Q2 averages of our loans and NII.

Lastly, COVID related credit costs are higher in this segment as the reserve build was more heavily weighted to commercial loans. The business earned $136,000,000 which included adding $1,900,000,000 to the allowance for credit losses. On a pre tax pre provision income basis, results declined 21%, driven by lower interest rates and by roughly $450,000,000 of net markdowns in the value of loans and underwritten commitments recorded at fair value in our Capital Markets books and FBO book. On the positive side, in Q1, we were able to improve our investment banking revenue and market share. We generated $1,400,000,000 in investment banking fees this quarter, a 10% increase year over year.

In fact, despite a 20% year over year decline in the volume of investment banking transactions across all banks, we processed 9% more transactions in Q1 than the previous year. Growth in Investment Banking fees, loans and deposits reflected not only what we believe to be a flight to quality in uncertain times, but also the addition of hundreds of bankers over the past few years, increasing and improving client coverage. Turning to Slide 22, Brian covered the most important points around loan and deposit growth. I just want to reiterate one point. We believe companies viewed us as a safe haven in this period of stress.

Quarter over quarter on an ending basis, deposits increased $94,000,000,000 while loans increased 58,000,000,000 dollars Not only were we able to capture as deposits the bulk of the cash that customers drew on the revolvers that wasn't used to pay down debt or for other purposes, we were also able to attract billions more in additional deposits even as pricing deposits lower with falling rates. Turning to Slide 23. As in Consumer and GUM, our digital capabilities are more important and useful than ever, enabling clients to work from home and seamlessly manage their treasury needs. And it's no surprise that in this environment, we continue to see increased use of these capabilities. Switching to Global Markets on Slide 24, as I usually do, I will talk about results excluding DDA.

Despite the volatility experienced in the quarter, global markets produced $1,500,000,000 of earnings in Q1, a 34% increase year over year. Year over year revenue was up 15% from both higher sales and trading results and improved investment banking fees. Expense was up a more modest 2% year over year on higher related revenue related costs. Within revenue, sales and trading improved 22% year over year, driven by a 39% improvement in equities and a 13% increase in FIC and a significantly more volatile market environment when compared to Q1 last year. FIC revenue reflected better trading performance across macro products, offsetting weaker performance in credit sensitive products resulting from widening credit spreads, which impacted asset prices.

Equity revenue of $1,700,000,000 was a record for the company. All right, skipping Slide 25 and moving to All Other on Slide 26. All Other reported a loss of $492,000,000 The loss reflects approximately $500,000,000 for several valuation reductions, including marks on derivative positions and certain non core securities, which were impacted by wider spreads toward the end of the quarter. Our effective tax rate this quarter was 11.5%. It included the impact of a fairly normal level of tax credits from our commitment to sustainable energy products and other ESG efforts, many of which are tax advantaged.

Applying this fairly normal level of tax credits against a lower pre tax earnings base resulted in a lower tax rate. It's just math. For the full year, I would expect the ETR to be in a range of 14% to 15%. Okay. With that, I think we'll open it up to questions.

Speaker 1

We'll take our first question today from Betsy Graseck with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. Thank you very much for all the detail and insight in particular. Your slide that talked about the percentage of folks who have been asking for deferrals is extremely interesting as well as the detail on the reserving analysis. My question has to do with how you thought about that reserving analysis. I know we've been through stress tests here for 10 years now and it would just be helpful to understand how you decided to size this very significant increase in the reserve and how you think it trajects from here?

All

Speaker 3

right. So Paul, why don't you hit that please?

Speaker 4

Yes, sure. So I mean let me ask the last part, answer the last part first. We put a reserve on our balance sheet that we think reflects the information that we had at the end of Q1. And so in terms of what's going to happen in the future, that reserve is going to go up or down based upon the facts and circumstances and our view of the future when we get to the end of Q2. I think when you think about reserves, you've got to really focus on loan mix and the quality of the portfolio.

And then you have the added variable under CECL of everybody coming up with a view of the future. We sized our reserve build in Q1 by weighing a number of economic scenarios, all of which assumed a recession of various depth and longevity. And that included assuming some tail risk similar to what's in the severely adverse scenarios. So when we weighted the scenarios that produced clearly a recessionary outlook, which included a significant drop in GDP in the 2nd quarter, with negative GDP growth rates extending well into 2021. We also consider the impact of various groups of credits and stressed industries and while small relative to the impact of scenario waiting, we incrementally factored that analysis into the sizing of our reserve bill.

Obviously, there are many unknowns, including how government fiscal and monetary actions will impact the outcome, but we can try to consider that as well. And we also had to consider how our own deferral programs will impact losses. But perhaps the biggest unknown is how long economic activities and conditions will be significantly impacted by the virus.

Speaker 3

So Betsy, I might add a couple of things. If you sort of benchmark, this has nothing to do with setting it under GAAP, it just sort of okay, now you have it, let's look at it. I think we're about 65% of the last year's Fed supervisor, severely adverse total losses type of numbers. That's one way to think about it. And then another thing to think about is the construct of the portfolios.

Those of you like yourself who have been around our company a lot, I went back and started saying sort of are we sure how much different we are and people forget things that it won't mean a lot to people on the phone. The gold option program which was a restructuring of card debt that went on in the mid-2000s. There was it started going into crisis in 2,008 timeframes at $25,000,000,000 8 quarters later, 6 quarters later, something like that is down to $12,000,000 Half of that was charge off. There's none of that around now. And so it's not only the FICO scores and all the things that you have, it's also that there's pieces of portfolio that cost us a lot in the last crisis that aren't there.

But let me and that's just how we position the portfolio. So even some of the industries which people we are focused on as a credit grantor and you're focused on as an analyst are relatively 1% in this industry or that industry. So the list of sort of concerning industries, entertainment, travel, things like that, we have low exposures to because of diversity and mix of portfolio. You touched on the deferrals. Let me just give you a couple perspectives on that.

One, on that small business, as I mentioned earlier, the reason why it's high is there's a lot of doctors and dentists in there, and you would expect that they would pay. But to give you a sense, before their deferral, 95%, 97%, 98% of these people were current under all the measures. And so they're not people who were struggling. They were people who were current that just needed a hiatus due to change. The FICO scores for 90 plus percent of the mortgage deferrals, 95% plus or on the cards, again, about 90%, 85%, I guess, are 600 or better.

So the average FICO is almost 700 of a deferral. So you'd expect that people who have deferred are doing it as a matter of convenience and will get back into the back in the flow once the economy reopens. And so and the LTVs on the mortgages again 95% or 195% only 5% or 10% are really the FHA VA of the deferred program and they're 95% or better, all the rest of it's low. 75% of it's below 80% LTV and stuff. So these are core people who've had a change that we're going to we'd expect to start to perform.

So we'll see how it plays out, but it's very different, I think, than past deferral statuses we've had.

Speaker 6

It's a very impressive reserve ratio. And in addition, your CET1 stayed relatively high this quarter as well. I just wanted to ask a follow-up, Brian, around how you're thinking about the dividend. It's been a question that many investors have been asking. And maybe you can give us a sense as to how you think through that question.

Speaker 3

Let me just Lee is correct. I mean, it's 65% of that adverse, not severely adverse, I think, is what Lee is telling me. We're in 2 different locations. So usually you can wave at me when I made a mistake. In terms of the dividend, we kept the dividend payout ratio below 30% of the sort of normalized earnings level and we did it for a reason that we one of our operating principles, we wanted to maintain a dividend.

And given what we know, we earned twice the dividend this quarter at $0.40 versus an $0.18 payout ratio, and we expect that to continue. And that shows you that the 100 basis points 130 basis points of excess capital, we've tested it lots of ways, as you might expect, as we talk to our Board about capital managers, we talk to our Board about dividends. On any given time, we're showing them severely adverse cases, adverse cases and thinking through the pretax PPNR capability of withstanding different reserve builds and outcomes. And so that's what we're doing. We plan to keep it going.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 1

We'll go now to John McDonald with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Hi. Just a quick follow-up on that. Paul, I know you mentioned in terms of the macro assumptions, it's a weighted average. But what you described is kind of a 2Q deep dive in GDP and then continuing negative for the rest of the year.

Is that kind of the central case? And is there any more details you could provide on that as just we compare different banks and what macro assumptions are embedded into the reserve? It's helpful to know the kind of maybe the central case of assumptions. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, just to be clear, what I said was it's a significant drop in GDP in the Q2 and then negative GDP growth extend well into 2021, I think approaching all the way to the end of the year. So we view it as a recessionary outlook. Wouldn't describe it any other way. None of the scenarios that we're looking at are anything other than a recession.

And again, we've captured sort of the tail risk of a severely adverse situation. In terms of providing yes, go ahead.

Speaker 7

No, no, go ahead please.

Speaker 4

I was going to say in terms of providing specifics on one variable or another, I mean you've got a lot of variables that go into these models, many, many, many, many variables. And so we really believe that to provide that level of detail could be a little misleading. Unless you have the full context of all the factors that we considered when we set the allowance, picking 1 or the other and starting to compare here or there just to us, I think, would be misleading. Plus, very importantly, the impact of all those multiple inputs that go into the process will be different for each bank depending upon the bank's loan mix and very importantly, the quality of the loan portfolio that they've been putting on the books for years. I think Brian just sort of talked about it, but I'll say it again, we've been very focused on prime and super prime customer borrowers for many years now.

So the impacts to us of all those inputs is going to be different. And I guess that's what all the information I would want to give you about like one input or another. Hopefully that helps you in terms of how we think about it.

Speaker 7

And the reference point to CCAR, it's helpful too. It sounds like what you provided for built into the reserve is about 60% of the cumulative losses from the Fed's adverse in 2019?

Speaker 4

Yes. Again, as Brian said, that's more of an output, not an input, right? We are developing scenarios based upon the information we had at the end of the quarter, but it is interesting and it's maybe helpful for all of you in terms of comparing reserves to really think about the loan mix, the quality of the portfolio and then of course what people assumed about the future. But in terms of the loan mix and the quality of the portfolio, there is an independent view out there. There's an independent view every year.

And so if you look at our losses in the severely adverse, the Fed's stress test, our losses under the severely adverse or our losses under the adverse, and then you look at our reserve and you divide by those losses, you're going to get percentages that are in the range or better than what you're seeing across the industry.

Speaker 8

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Speaker 4

And remember those tests basically are an independent way to evaluate the quality of somebody's portfolio and the mix of somebody's portfolio. So we think, again, we didn't size it that way, but we think that's an interesting way for you to kind of get some sort of independent perspective on allowances.

Speaker 7

Yes. I think it's helpful for us to compare across banks that way. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes, you still have the issue though by the way that every bank is going to have a this is the Q1 we're all doing CECL and everybody's going to have to develop their own view of the future. And there's no evidence right now that you can point to of asset degradation. There's a little bit of NPLs, there's a little bit of reserve criticize. So we're all doing this based upon just our view of the future based upon all those inputs that we use in our models.

Speaker 8

Got it.

Speaker 1

We'll go now to Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hey, Paul. Same question. Maybe more specifically, how much more could you answer? Same answer. Well, just how much I mean, how much more could the reserves get built in the 2nd quarter?

And when you defined a significant drop in GDP, how you define significant? I mean, look, you I mean, the stock pre market looks like it's going to open down 6% or 7%, if my numbers are right. And you just guided for better NII and you earned your dividend at least 2 times up to 4 times depending how you compute it. Your book value grew. You have good capital ratios.

You have the balance sheet strength to take the additional charges. So why not just take it for like the worst case that you're allowed to do so and communicate that and say, all right, your capital is still fine. So you had one of your peers kind of telegraph that you seem to be hesitant to do so given all the different variables, I understand. But can you give us any a little bit more guidance for reserve builds say in the Q2 or Q3?

Speaker 4

Yes, sure. And again, like you said, we have the liquidity, we have the capital. Our reserve bill, if you look at independent perspectives from the Fed or other sources, our reserve bill as a percentage of future losses under multiple scenarios that they publish is higher or in the range of our competitors. So that's a lot of information for you right there. In terms of your question about, hey, what's the likely reserve build in the future?

If we thought we were going to have to add more reserve build in the future, we would have put it into this quarter. That's how the rules work. You reserve for your expected lifetime losses. So our reserve build reflects what we think as of the end of this quarter, we're going to have to have in losses for the life of the assets on our books. Now when we get to the end of the second quarter, we may have a different view of the future.

And so we may release reserves or we may increase reserves. The quality of our loan book won't change that much because that doesn't change that much in the quarter. The mix doesn't change that much because that doesn't change in the quarter. We've built this loan book based upon years of underwriting standards. And so it will go down the reserve will go down in the Q2 or go up in the Q2, but it will be based upon a change in our outlook on the future.

Speaker 9

Got it. If I could follow-up with Brian then. I mean, clearly the biggest input is when does the economy come back online. And Brian, you and your firm have as many touch points nationally as anybody. There must be some underlying thought process that goes into the reserve build and the losses about when the economy comes back online.

What kind of what's your base case, best case, bad scenario? What are you seeing? What are your thoughts?

Speaker 3

Well, one thing that is different, Mike, and you well know is the flin area authority embedded in governors and mayors and the president to tell us what to do is overriding here. So we could have a view of what can happen, but given the healthcare crisis as opposed to demand changes and things that would be out of general economic flow or credit risk because commercial real estate got overvalued, the things that we've dealt with in our lifetimes as you've dealt with, this is just different. So we have to remind ourselves always this is going to come down to solving this healthcare crisis and number 1. Just to give you some facts of where we stand and we'll see this play out. As I said earlier, if you look at sort of the weekly flow of payments across all the means, meaning cash taken out of the ATMs and spent through checks written through ACH wires and credit and debit card, that was around $60,000,000,000 a week in January, February, and now it's running like 51%, 52% average for the last couple of weeks.

But you're seeing that rate of decline flatten at this point. And if you go in and look at geographies based on the data we see, we've seen it sort of flatten. So you're seeing what might be a relatively and that's after the unemployment claims have been filed and we're seeing the unemployment come into the accounts. You're seeing a rate of the rate of decline sort of flattened. And as you look at it sort of compared to the rate of decline year over year by week and things like that in different types of industries, They've gotten to the bottom in some, travel or entertainment, you've gotten to more sustainable maybe in drugstores and grocery stores.

And you sort of see the economy running at that level and that for that I'd apply whatever the 10% over 16%, 15%, 16% decline. That will hold on. We'll watch, but right now that seems to be holding on. The place have been shut down longer and we'll see that play out as it goes forward to see if that starts to grow from there. Remember gas prices are down a lot and gas usage is down a lot.

That impacts those numbers also. So we're looking for those signs. I'm not saying we have anything yet. We're looking for those signs. We're also looking for how the unemployment affects our customer base.

And so we've seen as households that we have as unemployment, 1, the participants of the household, we have a lot of dual earning households. 75% of the households that we have who received unemployment also have someone receiving a regular paycheck still. And so those types of things will be interesting to see play out is that a change in behavior in terms of what people spend on versus a real crisis in the household because of one wager work, we'll figure that out. So we're seeing balances and households, especially among the moderately affluent and up grow in terms of checking account balances because people are spending less than storing cash. We've seen in the wealth management side, people can delay paying their taxes.

So all these factors will play in. It's just a little premature to call anything, Mike. And so that's the factors we're looking at as we look at not only to your point about how you set potential losses based on our customer base and their behavior and what happens to them, but also based on our view of the economy opening up and frankly our advice to people who want as to what parts of the economy could have a faster impact with less they are the healthcare experts, but less risk of people congregating versus others that might help support a reopening of good activity. Go back to the dentist or something like that. You can put dentist back to work that will open up part of the economy that is usually not closed down for these things and it's a relatively few number of people in a given space at a given time.

So I'll leave it to healthcare experts to make those judgments, but all that's going to come together. As we move through the quarter, we'll try to give you better insight, but right now that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 9

All right. So that's why you say reserves could go up or they could be released. You just don't know yet.

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, it's just that's people are we all want to see where the end is, you included Mike, we do too, but the questions, we've got to wait for some time to pass to have a feel for them.

Speaker 9

Thank

Speaker 1

you. Our next question comes from Glenn Schorr with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hello. Thanks very much. Maybe one more quickie on allowance and reserves. When I look at the healthy reserve on card, it makes sense given the macro backdrop we're looking at and unemployment and kind of the linear relationship with unemployment and card. If you look at, say, U.

S. Commercial and non U. S. Commercial in and around 1%, that's obviously a lot more than we've had lately, but not necessarily the worst thing you could predict given the world we're looking at. So I guess my question is, when you talk about the quality and the mix of business and all the things that you gave us,

Speaker 8

is the what I consider the

Speaker 10

not as severe reserve on the commercial side, a function of not knowing the timing, the mix of business or is it where you sit in the capital stack, meaning even if some of those companies run into issues, your historical experience in the last bunch of years has been actually really, really good. So I know it's probably all of those, but I'm just trying to see if you could talk towards that on the commercial side.

Speaker 4

Look, we've got 2.16 on commercial real estate. Given how we have run our commercial real estate business over the last 10 years, especially relative to others. We feel that's up from 1.6 at January 1. We've got 1.11 on U. S.

Commercial. Those commercial losses, they just don't run as high because of collateral and other protections we have in the structure. So we feel pretty good. If you look at all of if you look at total commercial, we're at 1.16. So we feel good about where we are.

And again, it's when you sort of add all that up and you just look at it relative to the losses that people are projecting, including the Fed, whether it's an adverse scenario or it's a adverse scenario, you're going to come out with percentages that are pretty healthy on an absolute basis and relative to our peers.

Speaker 3

And Glenn, I'd add one thing. Let's go back to the beginning on the pretax PPNR, which we all learned after the last crisis. But that earnings power to absorb pay as you go losses on the consumer side in terms of car charge offs and things like that or building reserves and then going through on the commercial side, which is what happens typically. That earnings power is, I think, what we feel has us in good stead in terms of the ability to absorb whatever circumstances play out here and still with more liquidity than the start of the year, more capital than we need, 130 basis points more capital and a PPNR volume that lets us drive through it. And if you think about that PPNR, when you look at the stress test and stuff, we are running a lot higher than the stress test assumed because they assume there's market losses and things like that, which we didn't experience even in most volatile periods of time in the market's history.

And so I think as you play this out that whether we can all talk about the reserve of X or Y or Z per thing, which is what you all are focused on and should be focused on. The reality is, is how much earnings capacity you have to keep generating capital and keep generating earnings that you can offset whatever comes at you and that's what we feel good about.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Bob. If you study that portfolio, remember, it's mostly investment grade. And if you look at it the other way around, if you looked at the amount of loans or revolvers that we have in leverage finance, private equity sponsored leveraged loans, for example, that's less than 1% of total exposures. We don't have any CLO exposures because we don't put any of that in our ALM portfolio. We've got a fraction of tiny bit in global markets for trading purposes.

So that commercial portfolio is relatively high grade.

Speaker 10

Great detail. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1

We'll go now to Vivek Janaha with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Just

Speaker 3

Hello?

Speaker 4

You still there Vivek?

Speaker 3

Is it us?

Speaker 1

Vivek, we are not able to hear you at this time. Please check the mute function on your phone. We'll go now to Matt O'Connor with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning. The NetII guidance, obviously helpful and coming off a much better than expected 1Q. Just wondering if you can give a little more detail in terms of I assume some of the sharp drop is higher bond premiumization, lower trading and then obviously kind of core NIM pressure is how I think about the 3 buckets. I don't know if that's right or you want to parse it differently, but any additional color would be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, we did see bond premium amortization in Q1 was is always sort of seasonally low or lower. We do expect an increase in Q2 given the decline in rates in Q1. You got to remember that prepayment generally lag moves in NII, while they proceed moves and the rate moves proceed the NII impact by 6 to 8 weeks. What else did you ask about?

Speaker 5

I assume trading benefit 1Q and is being factored in. And then just kind of call it core NIM pressure from the rate environment as the 3rd bucket?

Speaker 4

Yes, yes. Trading definitely, we are liability sensitive in global markets, but it's not a huge impact and it can bounce around quarter to quarter depending upon the type of assets that they're booking and whether they bought them at par or above or below par, that influences whether profits show up or revenue shows up in NII or shows up in market making or similar activities. So that's why we don't give guidance on it because it can change pretty rapidly depending on what they're buying and selling for clients in global markets. But right now, it was a little bit liability sensitive and did help a little bit in Q1 and it will probably help a little bit in Q2.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then as we think about the balance sheet growth component, obviously, 2Q average balances will benefit from the run up on a period end in 1Q. But I would think as you kind of look to the back half this year and beyond, some of those line drawdowns in commercial start to get paid off so that maybe it's tougher to grow the balance sheet or at least tougher to grow loans. I don't know if that's the right way to think about it. Yes.

Speaker 4

I mean there's no question that commercial revolver lines, which spiked in March, will start to pay down once economic conditions start to improve. But obviously, the timing of that is very uncertain. So I think we're just going to have to wait and see. Clearly, we're going to see some carryover from these draws in Q2 and we may see a very significant amount stay with us for some time. We'll just have to wait and see.

Obviously, deposit balances also benefit NII because you don't necessarily have to make a loan, you can earn on those deposit balances and they're way up as well. And they may be with us for a little while, we'll just wait and see.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then just last quickly

Speaker 4

Just so you know, our NII guidance, I'm not going to get into the details, but our NII guidance, of course, assumes some sort of runoff. We're making some sort of guesses

Speaker 5

at this point about what

Speaker 4

the runoff would be in both loan and deposits.

Speaker 5

Yes, understood. And then just lastly, a quick one on the spread of the commercial line drawdown, any rough numbers on that? I'm often asked that question.

Speaker 4

Yes, sure. The spread on the drawdown will be no different than what they were pre crisis because they're just drawdowns, they're existing arrangements. We worked with some clients to adjust the liquidity we were giving them. There were a few new loans in there that were at higher spreads, but most of the spreads were the same as were spreads pre crisis. So you're not going to get a spread benefit on those draws.

Speaker 5

Maybe like a LIBOR plus

Speaker 4

150 or 200? Well, given the quality of our loan book, I wouldn't go

Speaker 5

as high as LIBOR plus 150. Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 4

In terms

Speaker 3

of who drew?

Speaker 4

Yes, in terms of who drew, yes.

Speaker 3

Yes. But one thing, just to back up, there will be a transitory impact, we should all hope, of these draws and stuff, and that means more stability to market, more reopening of the economy. So but what doesn't isn't transitory is the good core work that went on in our consumer business, our wealth management businesses, then the treasury services, the core growth levels that will continue through even if the deposits that people have built in part go back into other forms or get used up. And so I think that's going to be the trick for a while. We're all going to be preoccupied with the pace of those loans dropping off, etcetera.

But the reality is, over the long term, we're going to be based more on the way that underlying has performed going into this. And frankly, the amount of activity can continue in the underlying business, given this, the COVID virus situation. And we our officers are making contact, our wealth managers, we're continuing to add accounts in various businesses, not at the rate that you would before, but because just necessarily it's not face to face meetings taking place, but you're seeing the wealth management contacts are up, You're seeing even the referrals between our lines of businesses continue. It's just at a lower rate because of the necessities of the face to face meeting limitations, but those will come back as soon as we can get back in

Speaker 5

action.

Speaker 1

We'll go now to Brian Kleinhanzl with KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Yes, good morning. Quick question. I know you commented on the consumer deferrals that you were seeing, but what's kind of been the trends on the corporate side as well? And kind of what's been the inbound with regards to using some of these government programs from your clients out there?

Speaker 3

In terms of the government programs?

Speaker 4

Correct.

Speaker 3

We've had 12 days ago, we started taking applications in the PPP program. We've had 100 of 1,000 applications. We're processing them in accordance with the guidance that was given by Treasury to get the work done and then submit them. 1,000 have been through the SBA and have a number and we have thousands and many thousands at hand of clients that are signing promise to their notes and we're funding them. So that is still I think for the whole industry, the real impact economic of the money traveling out is coming will come over the next period of time here.

Today, we received the 1st major distribution of the direct payments in terms of the $1200 stimulus payment types. We're seeing now the unemployment benefits, the extra $600 type thing coming through and the benefit structures and programs we're seeing both as we service the state as a provider of prepaid card type card access to those programs and we see in our accounts. So those programs are just barely hitting the general consumer, general business, etcetera, in terms for us or for the industry, our industry peers are all in the same condition. And so they'll provide the stimulus they'll provide is actually going to be from now on, not from now backwards because of the this is a program that didn't exist literally 3 weeks ago, only started 2 weeks 12 days ago and several 100,000 people have applied for it and are processing through as fast as we can and it's around 10000, 12,000 on the more commercial banking side of the plan. And then just a separate question.

Speaker 11

I know you've built a qualitative reserve now with CECL, but kind of what are your expectations with regards to how the charge offs will roll through given all the deferrals that are going on forbearance, which could push potential charge offs out to a year or more? Are you really kind of looking that you may not see much of an uptick this year and this really could be a 2021 before you start to see meaningful degradation in the charge offs? Thanks.

Speaker 4

So

Speaker 3

the total amounts as you saw on page 5 of the balance of deferrals, so if you go to the inverse of that 95% and we see the cards are not deferred and they'll pay us and stuff.

Speaker 5

So I

Speaker 3

think the question is what really happens, to your point. So we deferred somebody who's at 750 FICO who temporarily thought lost their job or thought they're going to lose a job or thought income and just wanted a month, that will come back. And so I think the losses will shake out into the fall because just the methodology is, remember, it's to the 180 days, so you have to roll through all the buckets and stuff. So we'll see it play out, but it's going to be delayed. But remember, because the CECL, you're providing for your expected outcome under that delay, And Paul gave you the parameters of what we talked about already.

So the question is that that's what we're putting up at the end of the Q1 and we'll get the 2nd quarter, we'll put it up in the 3rd quarter, all based on what we think the credit costs will be of that portfolio over this cycle ahead of us. Down into the trough and then back out the other side in a very, very slow manner, as Paul described. And then the real question will be sort of people's behavior given these government programs and the amount of extra cash going in. And then on the employment, the PPP program is to employ people and pay people. You get 2 paid weeks of pay to pay them out.

And so we'll see how that all meets out to the underlying people. But so I think it's premature, but I think it will delay charge offs, but our reserve at any given moment will reflect, what we think will ultimately happen to those customers, not when it will happen.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thanks.

Speaker 1

And we'll go now to Ken Usdin with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Hey, thanks a lot. Hey, Paul, just a couple of follow ups on the NII front for you. With LIBOR expanding versus Fed funds and the TED spread still wide, which typically happens obviously in times of stress, how are you expecting that to traject as you talk about your $11,000,000,000 number and just your expectation for rates in the long end of the curve?

Speaker 4

Yes. So we're basically factoring in a timing between LIBOR and Fed funds over the year. But we're also factoring in some loan and deposit growth offsetting that. And then of course, we've got securities and other assets maturing that we're going to replace at a lower yield. All that's factored into our perspective that we think with loan and deposit growth, we can you'll see NII kind of at that $11,000,000,000 level, give or take roughly through the end of the year.

Speaker 12

So when you with all the cash that's sitting on the balance sheet and like you said earlier, you're expecting some tapering of that. How what is the asset liability decision about what to invest in, what you're putting it in? And so like what's the kind of go to investment rate versus what's coming off?

Speaker 4

Well, right now, that liquidity, that excess liquidity that all came flooding in is in cash. And we'll have to think about what we want to do that with that excess liquidity as it becomes clearer kind of how long it's going to stick around. If right now, if you just look at what's in our securities portfolio and you compare to the yields available to reinvest, they'd be 50 basis points lower. But all that's kind of factored into our guidance.

Speaker 12

Right. And one more question on the deposit side. Can you just talk about across the businesses, what you're seeing from customers in terms of money coming out of the markets and whether it's sitting in money market mutual funds, in wealth management or whether it's moved on to the balance sheet and just kind of how that ties into your ability to reprice deposits? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Just to start on that, just generally customers put more cash and you saw that in the wealth management deposits being up $19,000,000,000 So that reflects not only the moving money, but also the reallocation in our models and things like that. So you've seen that. We've seen them stabilize. My guess is 2 thirds of that was more what you're speaking about, a third or so was sort of the core growth building up that we saw coming into the tail end of last year into the quarter, maybe a little less than that. But a lot of it was moving.

It will move back in the markets based on the allocations and methods in terms of deposit form to the markets. And then on the money funds, the allocations were reflected there. Because of the prime money funds versus the government money funds, there's a lot of instability around that towards the quarter. So I think this will all settle out and you'll see it return to more normal when people are thinking about that. So you'll see less volume growth, I think, in the balance sheet deposit driven and wealth management.

Speaker 4

I'm not sure what else I would add to that. Obviously, we brought deposit pricing down in Q1. You can see that in the average by product. They're going to come down further just based upon pricing actions that we've already taken that are just now rolling going to start rolling into those average deposit pricing across the different types of products. In terms of growth, we obviously saw very strong growth in Q1.

There's a lot of moving pieces there, so it's hard to give guidance on growth from here. I just would emphasize what Brian emphasized earlier that the underlying spike in the process, if you look beneath that underlying spike, we still saw solid core organic growth across all our LOBs in January February. In terms of the Q2, with respect to consumer, you're going to have government stimulus and delayed tax payments. That's going to be a tailwind. G1 clients, we'll just have to see they shifted out of investments into deposits.

We're going to have to see how that plays out over time. And in Global Banking, we already discussed the large deposit inflows in March. Ending deposits grew $94,000,000,000 quarter over quarter. As the market stabilize and economic activity returns, we do expect some component of those deposit balances to flow out over time as clients pay down their lines, pay other bills and reapply liquidity. So we've kind of factored all that in, but at this point, there's a lot of uncertainty.

Speaker 12

Yes, understood. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

And we'll take our final question today from Vivek Janaha with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Sorry about that earlier. Let me just jump in, not hold everybody up that much. In your loan drawdowns, you said 90% investment grade. What percentage of those were BBB- and what are you thinking as you reserve how many of those are more vulnerable or more at risk of downgrades?

Speaker 4

Well over 90% were investment grade or secured. I don't have how many were BBB- in front of me. Okay.

Speaker 8

And going back to I know just looking at the reserve belt, sorry to go back to that, but it is the question of the day. On your either you've talked about GDP staying negative well into 2021. Can you give some color on what you're thinking in terms of unemployment? How high do you see in your weighted average in 2021? No, as

Speaker 4

I said before, we're not really providing level that level of detail because we think comparisons on this input versus that input when there's 30 or 40 inputs in the models is going to be misleading unless you have the full context of all factors.

Speaker 8

Right. Okay. Another one, and small business, the deferrals that you've seen so far, probably going to rise. What are you thinking in terms of as you've done your reserving, what percentage of those ultimately may not make it at this point? Your best

Speaker 3

what is best to move? If you were listening earlier I've been

Speaker 8

trying, Brian. Too many calls this morning, all at the same time.

Speaker 3

That's right. A substantial part of the small business are in a thing called practice solution, which are doctors and dentists and things like that. And you expect once they open their practice, they'll pay because they don't want to lose their equipment practice. So it's a little different than the general small business that they have. And that's why that number is elevated just because of who the dominance of that portfolio is a percentage of the total.

So if we expect a lot of it will come back and and we'll play that see that play out as parts of the economy reopen. Thank you, Vivek. And we're going to move to close here because we've got an endpoint at 10. So let me just close quickly. Thank you all of you for your time this morning.

Number 1, please keep your families and yourselves safe as we go through the rest of this health crisis. Simply put, we earned $4,000,000,000 We added substantially to our reserves based on our view at the end of the quarter. Our capital ratio is 130 basis points over our minimums. The liquidity is increased during the quarter, but importantly, we drove responsible growth, supported our teammates, our clients and our communities and delivered, I think, for the shareholders too, given the circumstances that were going on. As we look forward, we'll continue to keep you apprised of what we're seeing on our client base due to our purview, and as we see that, we'll continue to try to keep people informed to help people understand how the company and economy might operate given the stay at home orders.

Thank you for your time, and we will talk to you next quarter.

Speaker 1

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