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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

Aug 5, 2019

Speaker 1

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Black Hills Corporation Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Daniel, and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes.

I would now like to turn the presentation over to Mr. Jerome Nichols, Director of Investor Relations of Black Hills Corporation. Please proceed, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Daniel. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Black Hills Corporation's Q2 2019 earnings conference call. Leading our quarterly earnings discussion today are Lynn Evans, President and Chief Executive Officer and Rich Kinzley, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During our earnings discussion today, some of the comments we make may contain forward looking statements as defined by the Securities and Exchange Commission and there are a number of uncertainties inherent in such comments.

Although we believe that our expectations and beliefs are based on reasonable assumptions, actual results may differ materially. We direct you to our earnings release, Slide 2 of the investor presentation on our website and our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission

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for a list of some of

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the factors that could cause future results to differ materially from our expectations. I will now turn the call over to Lane Evans.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Jerome. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us this morning. The agenda for today appears on Slide 3. I will cover highlights of the quarter, Rich Kinsley will provide a financial update, and then I'll finish with a discussion around our strategy. Before we dive into the quarter's results, I want to start this meeting as we do with all meetings within Black Hills with a safety focus.

In that vein, I want to pause and both thank and congratulate our team for their incredible and their safe response to our customers during the Q2. Our team worked with focus, sensitivity and determination as they helped our customers respond to record rainfall and flooding across much of our territory. Many of our team are listening and I thank each of you for what you accomplished and especially how you did it safely. Moving to Slide 4, we are confident in our strategy. During the Q2, we continue to execute on our plan for long term success.

We delivered safe and reliable service to our customers. We produced financial results on track to achieve our full year earnings guidance, and we continue to execute our capital investment plan. On Slide 5, you'll see an overview of our strategy in action during this quarter. Our service territories experienced difficult weather conditions for a 2nd consecutive quarter and our team stepped up once again with strong operational performance. You may recall that in the Q1, extreme cold, severe winter storms, dangerous winds and flooding impacted much of the Midwest.

This quarter, many of our customers experienced record breaking precipitation and flooding, mainly in parts of Iowa and Nebraska then cooler than normal temperatures. These relatively poor conditions combined with trade tariffs that impact farmers and ranchers within our territories dampened overall economic activity in our Midwest service territory beyond what is otherwise measurable in degree days. Our electric and natural gas utilities experienced low sales volumes across nearly every customer class during the Q2, which we view as temporary in nature. Despite these difficult weather conditions, we managed our businesses to stay on track to meet our full year earnings expectations and execute on $777,000,000 capital investment forecast for 2019. As I've already stated, we prioritize safety and I'm proud of our team for achieving 0 reportable injuries in June.

While we continue to have room to enhance safety, this is an encouraging milestone to demonstrate that 0 is truly possible as we strive for our goal to be an industry leader in safety. As I mentioned last quarter, we are transforming the customer experience. Just last week, we launched an enhanced website, which more efficiently and effectively serves our customers. Our team works very hard to know our customers and what they need, and this is an example of our efforts to continually improve our service, enhance customer value and simply make it easier to do business with us. As we focus on being ready for our customers, we expect our strategy to deliver strong long term earnings growth.

We received key regulatory approvals related to our jurisdiction simplification efforts and customer focused initiatives. And as I already mentioned, we are on track for our capital investment plan. Moving to Slide 6, which lists some recent notable accomplishments and I'll start with the electric utilities. We are pleased that our South Dakota Electric and our Wyoming Electric utilities received approval of the renewable ready service tariffs and the joint application for a CPCN to construct and operate the Corriedale Wind Energy Project. This is a voluntary program that provides our larger commercial and industrial customers and the government agencies that we serve a cost effective option to purchase utility scale renewable energy.

The $57,000,000 40 Megawatt Wind Project will be constructed in Wyoming to be in service in 2020 and is already included of course in our capital investment forecast. At South Dakota Electric, we are entering the home stretch to complete our 175 mile transmission line. That's from Rapid City, South Dakota to Stegall, Nebraska. Now that project remains on schedule to place the 3rd and what we and the final 94 mile segment in service later this fall. At Wyoming Electric, we received approval in April for a tariff that will help recruit blockchain technology companies to the Cheyenne region.

Now this tariff is complementary to new legislation recently enacted in Wyoming and supports the development of blockchain technology within Wyoming. I should note that in contrast to the lower energy demand in most of our customer classes during the Q2 in July, both Colorado Electric and Wyoming Electric posted new all time record peak loads. Colorado Electric set a new peak of 4 22 Megawatts. That surpassed the previous peak of 4 13 Megawatts, which was set in July of last year. And Wyoming, Wyoming Electric similarly set a new peak of 2 65 Megawatts.

That surpassed the prior peak of 2 54 Megawatts also set in July of last year. We think these new peaks demonstrate the continued overall customer growth and demand growth we are experiencing in Colorado and Wyoming. Moving to the natural gas utilities, that's on the right side of Slide 6. On May 10, Wyoming Gas commenced construction of the $54,000,000 35 Mile Natural Bridge Pipeline Project. This pipeline enhances supply reliability and capacity for customers located in Central Wyoming, and it's also on schedule to be completed and placed in service this fall.

During the quarter, Wyoming Gas received approval to consolidate 4 natural gas distribution companies, which we have completed. On June 3, a consolidated rate review was submitted to combine the rates, the tariff and services and requested $16,000,000 in new revenue related to safety, reliability and system integrity investments we've made on behalf of customers. At Nebraska Gas, we filed an application at the end of March to consolidate 2 natural gas distribution companies within that state. Now we plan to file a consolidated rate review in 2020. Something that's not specifically mentioned on Slide 6, but appears in our earnings release is our ongoing rate review for Colorado Gas.

That rate review requests $2,500,000 in new revenue and also seeks a new rider mechanism to recover safety and integrity investments. Our team is participating in a hearing before ALJ this week with respect to those requests. Moving to our Power Generation segment on Slide 7. On August 2, we submitted a request to FERC seeking approval of a new power purchase agreement between Black Hills Wyoming and its affiliate Wyoming Electric. If the power purchase agreement is approved, Black Hills Wyoming will then deliver 60 megawatts of energy from its Wygen I power plant to Wyoming Electric starting on January 1, 2023, and then continuing for 20 years.

This new power purchase agreement will replace the existing agreement between Black Hills Wyoming and Wyoming Electric that expires on December 31, 2022. Our $71,000,000 60 Megawatt Busch Ranch 2 Wind Project located near Pueblo, Colorado is currently under construction. When placed in service this fall, the wind project will deliver all of its renewable energy to Colorado Electric under a 25 year power purchase agreement. This will fulfill the state's renewable portfolio standard requirement for Colorado Electric to deliver 30% of its energy as renewable energy to customers by the year 2020. At our corporate segment, our Board recently declared a quarterly dividend of $0.50 per share, which represents an annualized rate of $2.02 For 2019, this annual rate represents our 49th consecutive annual dividend increase, which is one of the longest track records in the utility industry and of course a record we're extremely proud of.

During the Q2, we issued approximately 659,000 shares of Black Hills common stock under our at the market equity offering program for net proceeds of approximately $49,000,000 Year to date, we've issued a total of $70,000,000 in new equity under the ATM. On the debt side, we amended and extended our term loan due in 2020 to June of 2021 and increased the amount of the loan from $200,000,000 from $300,000,000 Finally, our team is truly engaged in serving our customers. We survey our team through a 3rd party service every 2 years or so to assess the employee engagement and obtain open feedback from our team to help us continually improve in our endeavor to serve our customers with excellence while creating a great workplace. We are pleased to announce that our recent engagement score of 75% not only improved upon our 2017 score, but it is also above the U. S.

Utility average and is also above the engagement enjoyed by high performing companies within the U. S. Now I'll turn it over to Rich for our financial update. Rich?

Speaker 4

Very good. Thanks, Lynn, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on Slide 9. As Lynn noted, other than weather related challenges, we delivered 2nd quarter financial performance that met our expectations. Our quarterly EPS as adjusted was $0.24 compared to $0.45 in Q2 2018.

We estimate that weather negatively impacted Q2 results by $0.06 compared to last year's Q2 and by $0.04 compared to normal weather. Beyond this draft weather impact, we believe economic activity and demand for energy in our service territories was reduced during the Q2 due to record precipitation and resulting flooding as reflected by reduced demand across nearly all customer classes. Aside from weather, results for the 2nd quarter were driven by returns on investments made to benefit customers at our gas utilities, lower purchased capacity costs and a lower effective tax rate and negatively impacted by planned and unplanned generation outages and higher operating expenses related to our long term customer focused strategy. Results also reflected 11% increased share count related primarily to the equity unit conversion in November of last year. While many of these items are part of our business looking forward, a few of these items are non recurring in nature.

We believe approximately $0.10 of EPS impact in Q2 2019 can be attributed to the combination of direct and indirect weather, generation outages and certain non recurring expenses. I'll also remind everyone that the second quarter is a shoulder period for our utilities outside the heating season at our gas utilities and the primary cooling season at our electric utilities. More importantly, and as Lynn noted, we remain on track to achieve our earnings guidance for 2019 and we have reaffirmed our earnings guidance for 2019 and 2020. The assumptions for our earnings guidance are detailed on Slides 4546 in the appendix. On Slide 10, we reconcile GAAP earnings to earnings as adjusted, a non GAAP measure.

We do this to isolate special items and communicate earnings that better represent our ongoing performance. This slide displays the last 5 quarters and trailing 12 months as of June 30, 2018 2019. For the first half of twenty nineteen, we had no special items. We experienced special items in 2018 not reflective of our ongoing performance, all of which were income tax related. The first item reflected the impact of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act during 2018 and the second and larger item related to tax benefits of legal restructurings completed in 2018.

These items are not indicative of our ongoing performance and accordingly we reflect them as on an as adjusted basis. Slide 11 is a slide we added to our investor materials last year to improve transparency for year over year comparisons. The waterfall chart illustrates the primary drivers of our earnings results from Q2 2018 to Q2 2019. All amounts on this chart are net of income taxes. I'll add more detail by segment on the next slide, but overall, our utilities delivered lower gross margins with a decrease of 2% in Q2 twenty nineteen compared Q2 2018 driven largely by weather impacts.

Non regulated margins were 23% lower due to planned and unplanned generation outages, which drove a revenue decrease at our mining segment. Total O and M increased by $4,400,000 after tax, driven largely by planned spending associated with our customer focused capital expenditure program. Approximately half the O and M increase in the 2nd quarter related to non recurring items. Depreciation increased as a result of increased plant and service and we experienced favorability in our effective income tax rate in Q2 2019 compared to the prior year. Our effective tax rate this year is expected to be approximately 14% compared to approximately 18% last year when excluding the prior year special items.

This reduced tax rate is driven by forecasted federal renewable energy production tax credits and state investment tax credits for the Busch Ranch II wind project, which is expected to be placed in service in the fall of 2019. Under generally accepted accounting principles related to interim tax accounting, were required to recognize a large portion of our annual forecasted 2019 tax credits during the first half of

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the year.

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Slide 12 is a slide we added this year to our presentation combining the operating income results for our operating segments onto one slide. I'll make a few high level comments here and you can find additional details on Q2 year over year changes in gross margin and operating expenses in our earnings release. At the Electric Utilities, operating income for Q2 2019 decreased by $7,700,000 compared to Q2 2018. Gross margins decreased by $3,500,000 primarily from cooler early summer weather and lower residential and commercial demand, partially offset by lower purchased power capacity charges.

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Operating

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increase operating expenses increased $4,100,000 over Q2 last year, primarily due to higher outside services and employee costs. At the Gas Utilities, operating income for Q2 2019 decreased $7,900,000 compared to Q2 2018. Gross margins decreased $1,100,000 We experienced unfavorable weather, but benefited from returns on investments for customers and customer growth in our service territories. Operating expenses increased by $6,800,000 primarily from higher outside services, employee costs and depreciation. As I mentioned earlier, approximately $3,000,000 of the pretax O and M incurred during the quarter is non recurring in nature related primarily to outside services.

On the bottom half of Slide 12, you see our Power Generation segment delivered strong year over year Q2 results continuing to operate efficiently and providing excellent returns. Operating income at our Mining segment decreased by $2,200,000 due to the planned and unplanned generation outages we mentioned. These negatively impacted sales for the quarter at the mine. Slide 13 shows our financial position through the lens of capital structure, credit ratings and financial flexibility. Our credit ratings remain at BBB plus at both Fitch and S and P and Baa2 at Moody's with a stable outlook at all three agencies.

We remain committed to maintaining our strong investment grade credit ratings. At June 30, our net debt to capitalization ratio was 57.6 percent, a decrease of 130 basis points from year end. With our substantial 2019 capital spending forecast, we expect debt to total cap to increase slightly as 2019 progresses. You'll note in our guidance assumptions on slides 4546 in the appendix that we expect to use our at the market equity offering program to issue a total of $80,000,000 to $100,000,000 in new equity this year and $40,000,000 to $80,000,000 next year to help fund our CapEx program, which Lynn will speak to shortly. And as Lynn we completed $70,000,000 of this year's issuance due to the first half of the year.

While debt to total capitalization will likely remain in the 58% to 59% range into 2020, we continue to target a debt to total cap ratio in the mid-50s over the longer term. Slide 14 illustrates our dividend track record. We've grown the dividend at a faster rate the past few years demonstrating our confidence in our future earnings growth. As we've stated in the past, our intent is to not reduce the amount of the annual dividend increase and we maintain our stated dividend payout ratio range of 50% to 60% of EPS. And I'll turn it back to Lynn now for his strategic overview.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Rich. Now I'm moving to Slide 16. We group our strategic goals into 4 major categories: Profitable Growth, Valued Service, Better Every Day and Great Workplace. We plan to drive future earnings growth as we invest in our customers' needs centered on safety, reliability and growth. Based on our capital forecast, we expect to deliver long term earnings per share growth above the utility average.

In addition, we fully expect incremental growth opportunities from generation and other larger projects. Slide 17 helps us illustrate how we think about strategic execution. We are aligning our people, our processes and the use of technology and analytics around our customers' needs. In addition to our investment for customers to deliver safe and reliable service, We are transforming our customer experience, working hard to know our customers well and make us easier to do business with. We're driving growth through a greater penetration, adding renewable energy and bringing forth innovative tariffs to recruit new businesses.

In particular, we are enabling the growth of data centers, which fit the unique attributes of our service territory. And we are investing in the safety and reliability of our electric and natural gas infrastructure systems utilizing a disciplined programmatic integrity program. Slide 18 illustrates the strategic diversity of our business structure and the seasonality of our earnings. We have a mix of complementary gas and electric utilities across stable and growing Midwestern states. Slide 19 illustrates our large electric and natural gas infrastructure systems.

These systems span across 8 states and provide more diverse opportunities for investment, more interconnections for reliability and growth and greater overall efficiency of operations for our customers. Moving to Slide 20, our systems require significant long term investment to meet our customers' needs. Forecasted capital investment is focused largely on safety, reliability and supporting our customers' growth. This capital forecast far exceeds depreciation, which will translate to future earnings growth. We plan to invest $777,000,000 in 20.19 $2,800,000,000 over the 5 year period.

Both of these are all time high capital forecasts for us and are consistent with our Q1 disclosures. Our capital forecast includes opportunities we are relatively certain to occur and then we add capital, especially in the outer years as we gain more clarity comfort around specific projects. As discussed last quarter, we expect to update our 5 year capital forecast when we report our Q3 earnings that would be in early November. We will also refresh our earnings guidance at that time. Slide 21 illustrates the breakdown of our 5 year capital forecasts.

You'll note that over 90% of our forecasted investment is within our utilities. And of those utility investments, over 70% are recovered in a timely and efficient manner. Slide 22 shows the timeline around our multistate jurisdiction simplification efforts. We have 3 states, those are Colorado, Nebraska and Wyoming, and which are now officially underway for simplification. In Colorado and Wyoming, we received approval and then we completed the legal consolidation and we're currently working through the regulatory process for consolidated rate reviews with the decisions expected in both states by year end.

In Nebraska, we filed a legal consolidation request at the end of March and we plan to file a consolidated rate review in 2020. Slide 23 is a new slide illustrating our commitment to managing our environmental and social impacts, while maintaining strong governance, ensuring we continue to deliver a sustainable and strong future for all of our stakeholders. Responsibly serving customers and managing our environmental impact is nothing new for us. We have one of the most modern generation fleets in the country with the latest emissions control technologies. We've also been transforming our generation mix, investing in low carbon emission generation, adding more natural gas and renewable energy, thereby reducing our carbon impact by approximately 16% since 2,005 is shown on the chart on the left hand part of the slide.

Our shareholders are successful when our customers and our communities thrive. Our employees live and they work alongside our customers, positively impacting our communities. We take great pride in donating to a variety of local charities and programs. Our employee team generously donates financially and volunteers their time in a variety of ways across our service territory. In 2018, our company combined with our employee team donated more than $4,100,000 in the communities that we serve.

Finally, we continue to build on a legacy of diversity as evidenced by our board composition and their experience. Slide 24 illustrates our focus on operational excellence. Our safety performance continued to be excellent and is on track for 2019. We continue to report much better performance in the utility industry average and it's worth mentioning again that we had 0 reportable injuries during the month of June. Also, our communication team received an award from Southern Gas Associated in recognition of our team's work on our natural gas crisis communication plan.

Slide 25 illustrates the results of executing our customer focused strategy, delivering strong long term shareholder returns. And then Slide 26 is our 2019 scorecard. To hold ourselves accountable to you, our shareholders, we publish our major initiative scorecard each year. We made strong progress during the quarter, checking off several items that include the approval of our Renewable Ready program and the receipt of a CPCN for the associated Corriedale Wind Project, completion of the Wyoming Gas legal consolidation and filing our consolidated rate review in Wyoming. We filed for FERC approval for the WiGen 1 power purchase agreement between Black Hills Wyoming and Wyoming Electric.

We also completed major plant maintenance that Box appears under Better Every Day. And we also completed our employee engagement survey, which Box appears under the Great Workplace. Now to quickly recap the quarter, we met our Q2 earnings expectations aside from the impacts of weather. We're on track to achieve our capital investment program, and we remain confident in achieving our 2019 earnings guidance. That concludes my remarks, and we're happy to entertain questions.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, we are ready to open the lines for your questions. And our first question comes from Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning guys.

Speaker 6

Good morning, Mike. Good morning, Michael.

Speaker 5

Hey, a couple of questions about WiGen and the new contracts. So, deferred filing suggests that the new pricing is about $22 less than the old pricing on 60 megawatts. That would suggest somewhere in the neighborhood of around $0.15 to $0.18 per share hit to earnings unless there's mitigating factors. I'm just wondering if there's any other mitigating factors we should be considering so that would reduce that impact. And then a related question to that is there's a new contract in there for Gillette, a small one for about 5 megawatts.

Is that incremental? Is that like a totally incremental situation that adds that would add new revenues? Or is that simply a reassignment of 5 megawatts that had been previously contracted somewhere else before and is just continuing under this new pricing now?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think you got the math about right on the PPA, Michael. This is Rich. The one of the mitigating factors is the coal contract. Right now, the Wygen I plant is on a kind of a fixed with escalators coal contract with the Wyedak mine.

With this contract, it would move to our statement R pricing. And so that's a better price on the coal. And then the 5 megawatts, that right now is being sold on the open market. So that contract locks down that component of the plant, which is helpful as well. I think it's been characterized by you and others as kind of a high single digit net and that's about where we expect to land from 2022 to 2023.

As a reminder, the existing contract runs through the end of 2022.

Speaker 5

Got you. So I mean in other words the high single digit net impact is after the after 2022 when the contract expires?

Speaker 4

Correct.

Speaker 5

Got it. Got it. And then second question is about the Wyodak coal contract. Can you characterize what that flipped on July 1? What's the economic impact there?

Speaker 3

Mike, this is Lynn. We continue to negotiate that contract with Pacificorp for Rocky Mountain Power. We have extended the current contract during those negotiations. We anticipate an impact through the coal price of probably between $1 to $1.50 overall. That's kind of what we're thinking at the moment.

Speaker 5

And is that so that's on 1,500,000 tons or half of that?

Speaker 4

Probably less than that. They've been taking slightly less than the $1,500,000 now for a while because of the availability of wind resources in Wyoming.

Speaker 5

Got you. Okay. And can you make any comment about long term earnings growth based on all these resets that have been happening? Does this have an impact on your expectation for above average growth?

Speaker 3

No, it doesn't. We still anticipate that, Mike, above average growth next quarter, early November. As I said in my remarks, we'll providing an updated capital forecast, extending out another year and then updating what we see in the current forecast. And we still believe that we can deliver above average earnings compared to utility average.

Speaker 5

Great. Okay. Thank you very much, Lynn. Bye.

Speaker 1

Thank you. And our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin Smith with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for the time. Perhaps just to clarify the question real quickly with Mike. I know we talked about the net impact.

Can we clarify the timing of each of those mitigating offsets? Just to be sure, the positive offset also are extended sorry.

Speaker 4

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. You're talking about YGEN-one, right?

Speaker 5

Yes.

Speaker 4

That's all it all starts January 1, 20 23. Everything stays the way it is until then, yes.

Speaker 7

And then speaking of mitigating offsets, you talked about sort of the consistent above average growth trajectory. Anything else that we should be thinking about through that period that we've been moving up or down, to kind of enable a more smooth trajectory or anything else, sort of big items in that period?

Speaker 3

Well, we'll have the next 4 years, Julien, to consider at least the end of 2022 to look for strategies and continue to develop strategies that help us ease that pain, if you will, that high single digit loss in earnings. So something we're very focused on.

Speaker 7

Got it. All right, excellent. And then just if I can switch to a slightly different topic here on the data center focus of yours. This has certainly been ongoing for few quarters here. Any updates with respect to new contracts, continued tariff sign ups, etcetera?

Just sort of curious, just you regionally and others continue to talk about it and the acceleration?

Speaker 3

Yes. A couple of updates. We received a number of contacts for blockchain in Wyoming. We've been responding to those. We don't have anything we can announce, but we've been responding to those.

As to data centers, we have an approved tariff and an approved contract by the Colorado Commission to serve in 50 Megawatt load in Colorado Electric. I think we're under a confidentiality agreement with respect to the details of that, but we are excited to be bringing 50 megawatt data center to Pueblo.

Speaker 7

All right, great. Well, thank you very much guys.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Julien.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Weisel with Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning, everybody. My first question is on equity. You raised $70,000,000 in the first half. That's obviously the better part of the full year guidance. Can you share any thoughts on why it's a bit more front end loaded?

Speaker 4

Market conditions were good during the Q2, and we just took advantage of that. Pretty simple.

Speaker 8

All right. Simple enough. Next question, you talked a lot about the regulatory strategy at 3 gas subsidiaries. How about on the electric side? Can you please share your latest thoughts on the outlook for rate case filings for the electric utilities?

Speaker 3

Yes, good question. We don't anticipate any rate case filing in our current plan over the next which is the next 5 years. Now that can be that changed with respect to integrated resource plans, that we will be working on and be filing this in a couple of our states. For example, we have some capacity. We believe we'll need to replace the South Dakota Electric, etcetera, working through those considerations.

But as indicated, we don't have any plans for rate case over the next 5 years.

Speaker 4

Other than Wyoming Electric, we do have to file 1 there

Speaker 3

in a couple of years. Yes. Thanks for that reminder. We will we have an agreement through our last IRP to file a rate case by 2021 and Wyoming Electric will be filing that. Great.

Speaker 8

That's helpful. Then just one last one, if I may. You mentioned $0.10 of one time expenses in the quarter. Will you remind us of any noteworthy one time items either in the second half of twenty eighteen or that you are aware of for the second half of twenty nineteen just for comparisons?

Speaker 4

Yes. Let me clarify. I didn't say $0.10 of one time expenses. I said $0.10 during the Q2 that could be attributed to the impacts of weather, which if you think about, I said $0.04 compared to normal. And then the outage, the generation outages, we estimate those were about a $0.02 net impact.

And then certain non recurring expenses which were roughly $0.04 So that's the $0.10 Relative to future one time and so forth, I mean, nothing to point out particularly there. This second quarter had some unusual items in it.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks, Andrew.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Vedula Murti with Avon Capital. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Good morning.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Vedula.

Speaker 6

I want to clarify, following up on Mike Weinstein's questions. First, the new technology $0.15 to $0.18 that's solely tied to the repricing become 2023. And then you referenced a favorable adjustment on the coal supply. I wanted to make sure I understood that coal supply is from a third party and not from your mine. Is that correct?

Speaker 4

It's from our mine. All our coal plants sit on our coal mine, including YJN-one. So all that coal is coming from our mine.

Speaker 6

So but then where I'm going with this then isn't then the mine earnings negatively affected as they get lower price even?

Speaker 4

No, it will be a positive impact Vedula starting in 2023 because they'll move to our standard regulatory arrangement, which we call statement R from the current price, which is lower.

Speaker 6

Okay. So the coal contract price actually goes up. Yes. And that's part of that's how you get the offset to end up at high single digits?

Speaker 3

Correct. Correct.

Speaker 6

Okay. And we were referencing earlier about the current negotiation on coal supply. I assume that's why deck. My recollection is also there's going to be a full re opener, I think, in the 2022, 2023 timeframe. Is that correct?

Speaker 4

Yes. The contract expires in mid-twenty 22.

Speaker 6

Okay.

Speaker 4

And if I can just clarify a little bit, the last Rocky Mountain Power IRP indicates that that plant is going to continue to run well into at least another decade beyond that. And we don't expect that to change, but we're waiting for more information from them.

Speaker 6

That was pretty much going to be my next question. So when would you expect to get an update to either affirm the previous IRP or have any or disclose any changes?

Speaker 3

Good question, Vedula. We don't know exactly when other states will approve their IRP. But what we do know through public presentations and documents that currently Rocky Mountain Power intends to operate the Wyodak operation through 2,039. So we would expect renegotiating that contract at some point between now and 2022. And in fact, I would say that's part of our negotiations now with Rocky Mountain Power as we negotiate this price is an opportunity for us to extend that contract.

Speaker 6

I guess maybe one last thing, given some of the environmental movements in both Oregon and in Washington. How does that play into being able to transmit coal generation from another state into those states? It appears that that's going to be it could be somewhat challenging.

Speaker 3

We tend to agree with you. We're watching that closely. You might find of interest some of the legislation that Wyoming has passed lately to try to keep plants open in that state of Wyoming, but you're absolutely right. We'll be watching it very closely over the next couple of years and determine the longevity of coal, especially for Rocky Mountain Power.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 8

Thanks, Fidel. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. With no further questions, I will return the call back over to Lynn Evans for closing remarks. Go ahead, sir.

Speaker 4

Thank you, everyone, for

Speaker 3

your time this morning. We thank you for your continued interest in Black Hills and hope that you enjoy a safe and great rest of your day. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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