Good day, welcome to the Broadridge Fiscal Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Edings Thibault, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Allison. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Broadridge's second quarter fiscal year 2023 earnings call. Our earnings release and the slides that accompany this call may be found on the investor relations section of broadridge.com. Joining me on the call this morning are Tim Gokey, our CEO, and our CFO, Edmund Reese. Before I turn the call over to Tim, a few standard reminders. One, we will be making forward-looking statements on today's call regarding Broadridge that involve risks. A summary of these risks can be found on the second page of the slides and a more complete description on our annual report on Form 10-K. Two, we'll also be referring to several non-GAAP measures, which we believe provide investors with a more complete understanding of Broadridge's underlying operating results.
An explanation of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP measures can be found in the earnings release and presentation. With that done, let me now turn the call over to Tim Gokey. Tim.
Thanks, Edings. Good morning, thank you for joining us. I'm pleased to be here to review our strong second quarter performance. I'll start with a quick summary of our results and key headlines, followed by a review of our business. I'll close with some thoughts on why my recent client meetings have given me even more confidence that Broadridge remains well-positioned to grow even in an uncertain market. First, on slide three, Broadridge delivered another strong quarter. Recurring revenues rose 8% on a constant currency basis, with strong growth across both our segments. Adjusted EPS rose 11%, driven by the combination of strong growth and disciplined expense management. This performance highlights the strength and resilience of our business. Clearly, the market backdrop remains uneven. Equity markets rose slightly in the quarter, capping off a year of strongly negative returns. Rates continued to rise.
Volatility remained high. Asset managers pulled back on discretionary expenditures, the dollar remained very strong. In the face of this uncertainty, Broadridge's resilient business model with 93% recurring fee revenues continued to perform. Our long-term business drivers remain healthy. We're benefiting from a strong sales backlog, robust investor participation, and significant demand for our digital solutions, which, along with disciplined cost management, are enabling us to drive top and bottom line growth. Third, investor participation, in particular, remains at very healthy levels. Broadridge benefited from mid to high single-digit position growth across both funds and equities, we expect to see further growth ahead in the second half. Fourth, we are executing on our long-term growth initiatives. We're innovating in governance, including pass-through voting, Tailored Shareholder Reports, and digital communications, we continued our strong momentum in capital markets.
Fifth, and finally, we are reaffirming our guidance for the full year. We continue to expect to deliver 6%-9% recurring revenue growth, constant currency, expanding margins, and 7%-11% adjusted EPS growth. Now let's turn to slide four for a review of our results, beginning with our governance or ICS business, which reported another strong quarter. The biggest driver of our 10% growth in ICS continues to be new sales in our fund solutions and custom communications businesses. Equity position growth remains strong, driven by double-digit growth in managed accounts and mid-single digit growth in non-managed accounts. Fund position growth, while still healthy, slowed to 6% as investors rotated away from the traditional active strategies into ETFs and passives. Looking ahead to the seasonally larger second half of the year, we expect further growth across both equities and funds.
Demand for our innovative solutions remains strong, as evidenced by significant interest amongst our asset manager clients to offer their investors, both institutional and retail, choice on how their underlying shares are voted. Just yesterday, we launched a new pilot for individual investors with another leading passive asset manager, we're in discussions with a number of other fund complexes. We're also continuing to work with our fund clients to develop our future roadmap for Tailored Shareholder Reports, which fulfill a critical need for the industry. Beyond our regulatory products, we're seeing strong demand for digital communications with a second major client signing for our Broadridge Wealth Platform during the quarter. This omni-channel product suite offers enhanced investor engagement while delivering near-term cost savings through increased digitization of critical communications. That is proving to be a compelling combination for our customer communications clients.
We've been investing steadily in building these capabilities over the past few years, and I'm pleased to see that investment now turning into meaningful revenue with key clients. Turning to capital markets, recurring revenues rose 12%, driven in part by the continued strong performance of Broadridge Trading and Connectivity Solutions, or BTCS, where our market share gains are driving growth. I was also pleased to see cross-selling start to contribute to new sales as well, as we won a new client in the quarter that has long been targeted by BTCS and that made the decision to switch now based on their trust in Broadridge. Our other capital markets products also performed well as our themes of simplifying globally, front to back, and within the front office are resonating with clients.
We also continue to see progress in Distributed Ledger Repo with a strong pipeline of discussions with new institutions. Wealth and investment management declined year-over-year as positive core growth was offset by lower license revenue. We continued to hit key wealth management platform milestones. UBS advisors are transitioning onto the latest generation of our workstation with continued very positive feedback. We've now completed development of all 29 platform areas and testing for 26 of 29. We are working closely with the new management at UBS as they refine their approach to rolling out the remainder of the platform. We continue to expect to begin to recognize revenue in mid-calendar 2023. Our sales pipeline is strong. As Edmund will discuss, our investment levels have decreased as we shift into this new phase. Moving to closed sales, year-to-date closed sales were $94 million.
Client engagement around our next-generation technology remains high. Our pipeline entering calendar 2023 is stronger than it ever has been. As a result, our sales expectations for fiscal 2023 are unchanged. I'll close my remarks on slide five. Over the past several weeks, I've met with more than 30 CEO and C-suite clients in North America and Europe. The message from them is clear. They are continuing to push on next-generation technology. They are looking for long-term partners that invest in their business. They'd like a componentized approach that creates value along the way. These critical needs are strongly aligned with our strategy and direction, and I'm confident that Broadridge is well-positioned for growth in a market that remains uncertain.
That confidence starts with our strong market positions across all three of our franchises based on the mission-critical infrastructure we provide that enables corporate governance and powers trading and investing, and is coupled with our strong track record of innovation and client service. We've invested to bring more value to clients and to meet their need for next-generation technology by building or acquiring critical solutions and adding talent and technology. These investments are playing a key role in driving the strong revenue growth we reported today and that we expect to see over the balance of the year. Importantly, we're innovating. As we talked about today, we're continuing to deliver new governance solutions. Our digital communications capabilities are gaining traction in the market. Our BTCS business is helping to drive the growth of our capital markets franchise. We continue to progress wealth and investment management.
By aligning with the long-term needs of our clients, we're attacking a $60 billion market opportunity, and we're scaling into a global Fintech leader. In an uncertain market, our resilient business model, driven by recurring revenue, client focus, and a long track record of disciplined expense management, gives us the visibility and confidence to deliver for shareholders. As a result, we're reaffirming our full year guidance for 6%-9% constant currency recurring revenue growth and 7%-11% adjusted EPS growth. In turn, we expect to deliver at or above the higher end of our three-year objectives. When we do that, it will be the fourth consecutive three-year period in which we've delivered on our objectives.
Finally, we're past the peak investment period on our platform solutions, positioning us to begin to return to a more historical strong free cash flow conversion and giving us additional flexibility to drive returns for our shareholders. In sum, Broadridge is delivering on the growth plan we shared at our last Investor Day. I want to close by thanking our associates. The work Broadridge does is important and makes a difference for millions of investors. None of it would be possible without our associates' talent, knowledge, and effort, which enables us to deliver exceptional products and service at scale for our clients and for our clients' clients. Thank you. Now, I'll turn the call over to Edmund for a review of our financials.
Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to share the results from another strong quarter where recurring revenue growth and continued disciplined expense management drove double-digit adjusted EPS growth, even in a challenging macroeconomic environment. We continue to see organic recurring revenue growth from converting our sales backlog to revenue and healthy position growth. This performance in Q2 and the continued execution of our strategy gives us the confidence to reaffirm our fiscal 2023 guidance. As you can see from the financial summary on slide six, recurring revenues rose to $840 million, up 8% on the constant currency basis, all organic. Adjusted operating income increased 23% as we lapped elevated investment in fiscal 2022 and realized the benefit from targeted cost actions that we initiated in Q4 2022, both of which more than offset the impact of the lower event-driven revenue.
AOI margins of 13.4% expanded 220 basis points, adjusted EPS rose 11% to $0.91. Finally, we delivered closed sales of $65 million. I'll note that the operating income growth is being offset by lower discrete tax items in Q2 2023 and interest rates. On taxes, we continue to project an overall tax rate of 21% for fiscal 2023. I'll remind you that while higher interest expense partially offsets operating income growth, the interest rate impact at the Broadridge level is fully offset by higher float income in our ICS segment. Let's get into the details of Q2 results, starting with recurring revenue on slide seven. Recurring revenue grew 8% to $840 million in Q2 2023, marking a second consecutive quarter near the higher end of our full year guidance range of 6%-9%.
Our recurring revenue growth was all organic, again, keeping us on track to exceed our 5%-7% three-year growth objective. Let's turn now to slide eight to look at the growth across our ICS and GTO segments. We continue to see growth in both of our segments. ICS recurring revenues grew 10%, all organic, to $467 million, with regulatory at 9% and double-digit growth across all other product lines. The 9% increase to $181 million in regulatory revenue was driven by continued growth in equity and fund positions. Data-driven fund solutions revenue grew 11% to $96 million, propelled by revenue from sales in our data and analytics products and higher float revenue in our mutual fund trade processing unit. Our issuer business revenue increased 12% to $27 million, led by growth in our registered shareholder solutions.
We continue to benefit from strong demand in our customer communications business, where recurring revenues rose 11% to $163 million, driven by new client wins in print and growth in our higher-margin digital business. Turning to GTO, recurring revenues grew to $373 million or 6%, driven by new sales and continued strength in our capital markets, including BTCS. Capital markets revenues grew 12% to $235 million, again propelled by strong growth from BTCS new sales and higher fixed income trading volumes. Wealth and investment management revenues declined by 3% to $138 million. Growth from sales was offset by a decline in license revenue as we grew over a large client renewal from Q2 2022.
As a reminder, license revenues can impact quarterly revenue growth, we expect to grow over impact in Q3 for capital markets and in Q4 for wealth management. Looking forward, we expect GTO full-year organic growth to be within our targeted 5%-7% range. Let's turn to slide nine for a closer look at volume trends. We had solid position growth for both equities and funds. As you can see by our results, investor participation in financial markets has remained steady despite market volatility, we continue to be encouraged by this long-term tailwind. Equity position growth of 9% was driven by continued double-digit growth in managed accounts. Looking to the seasonally larger second half, our testing continues to show mid-single digit growth. With those results, we continue to expect equity position growth in the mid to high single-digit range for the full year.
Mutual fund position growth moderated from Q1 2023 levels, still grew 6%, largely driven by the growth in passive funds. We expect to see continued mid-single digit growth in the second half. Turning now to trade volumes on the bottom of the slide. Trade volumes grew 5% on a blended basis in Q2, driven by double-digit fixed income volume growth and modest equity volume growth as continued higher trading by institutional investors more than offset the lower activity at our retail wealth management clients. As we lap a strong Q4 2022, we continue to expect full-year trading volume growth to be essentially flat for the year. Let's now move to slide 10, where we summarize the drivers of recurring revenue growth.
Recurring revenue growth of 8% was all organic. This organic growth was balanced between net new business and internal growth. From closed sales and our continued high retention from existing customers contributed four points. In internal growth, primarily position growth and trading volumes also contributed four points. Foreign exchange impacted recurring revenue by two points, with the bulk of that impact coming in our GTO business, as you can see in the table on the bottom of the slide. I'll finish the discussion on revenue with a view of total revenue on slide 11. Total revenue grew 3% in Q2 to $1.3 billion, with recurring revenue being the largest contributor, driving four points of growth. Event-driven revenue was down $27 million from the prior year and was a headwind of two points, as mutual fund proxy activity slowed to a historically low level.
The lower mutual fund proxy activity is driven by the timing of fund and ETF board elections, as funds reacted to the combination of weaker markets and record withdrawals. Board elections for these funds may be pushed back from time to time, but they are not an optional activity and over the long term, event-driven revenue will grow in line with fund and ETF position growth. Looking ahead to the second half of fiscal 2023, we expect the combination of higher contest activity and lower mutual fund activity will have us trending towards the low end of the $240 million-$260 million range that we've seen in recent years. Low to no margin distribution revenues increased by 3% and contributed 1 point to total revenue growth.
As the higher volumes in customer communications and the impact of the July postal rate increases offset lower event-driven activity. We continue to expect double-digit distribution revenue growth for the full year. I'll reiterate that the elevated distribution revenue from July and January postal rate increases and higher customer communications volumes have a dilutive impact on our reported adjusted operating income margin. To margins on Slide 12. Adjusted operating income margin for Q2 2023 was 13.4%. A 220 basis points improvement over Q2 2022, driven by the operating leverage in our business. Higher float income, continued disciplined expense management, and the impact of targeted cost actions that we initiated at the end of Q4 2022.
Our progress through Q2 gives us increased confidence that we will be able to offset inflation and FX impacts and deliver on our margin expansion objective of approximately 50 basis points for fiscal 2023. Let's move ahead to closed sales on slide 13. Second quarter closed sales of $65 million, which brings our year to date total to $94 million, that's 16% off of H1 2022. Strong ICS sales in the quarter were powered by the large digital wealth and focus sales that Tim mentioned earlier. As a reminder, closed sales are historically weighted towards the fourth quarter, and given our robust pipeline, we remain on track to achieve our full-year closed sales guidance of between $270 million-$310 million. I'll turn now to cash flow and capital allocation on slide 14.
I'll start with a reminder that Broadridge's cash flow generation is typically negative in the fiscal first quarter and strengthens over the course of the year. We're seeing that trend play out again this year. Q2 2023 free cash flow improved to $104 million, up 276% from $28 million last year. Free cash flow conversion, calculated as free cash flow over adjusted net earnings, was up 10 points over last year to 51%, driven by operating cash flow improvement. This improvement was the product of higher earnings, strong working capital management, and most notably, a year-over-year and sequential decline in the level of client platform spend as we expected.
Total client platform spend for Q2 2023 was $78 million, a reduction from last year's $154 million and less than half of the Q1 2023 level of $163 million. The wealth platform accounted for the majority of the investment in the quarter. The lower spend is a strong indicator of our progress in completing the development of that project. As we remain on track to recognize revenue on the wealth platform in mid-calendar 2023, we expect client platform spending to continue to be lower than last year, keeping us on track to deliver free cash flow conversion that is higher than fiscal 2022. We remain confident that we will return to more historical levels of free cash flow conversion in fiscal year 2024.
On slide 15, you see that the client platform spend is our most significant use of cash and that we continue to return capital to our shareholders through the dividend. Let's turn now to slide 16 to review our fiscal year 2023 guidance, followed by some final thoughts on the second quarter results. We are reaffirming our full year guidance on all of our key financial metrics. We continue to expect 6%-9% constant currency recurring revenue growth, driven by healthy growth across ICS and GTO. Approximately 50 basis points of adjusted operating income margin expansion and adjusted EPS growth in the 7%-11% range, and close sales between $270 million-$310 million. Before I move on from guidance, let me briefly discuss our second half outlook, which is embedded in that full year guidance.
We expect Q3 adjusted EPS growth to be in the low to mid-single digit range as the impact of continued recurring revenue growth is partially offset by lower capital markets license revenue. We expect adjusted EPS growth to be higher in the seasonally larger fourth quarter as we recognize the benefit of growth in our proxy business and the timing of investments. Finally, let me reiterate my key messages. Broadridge delivered strong Q2 financial results. Demand for our mission-critical technology is strong, and our testing is showing continued equity and fund position growth in a seasonally larger second half of the fiscal year.
We are now past the peak period of investment. Again, driving strong free cash flow in Q2 2023, we continue to expect our client platform spend to be lower than last year, resulting in improved free cash flow conversion into fiscal 2023 and a return to a more historical conversion level in fiscal 2024. We have a resilient business and financial model with a proven track record of performance through the economic cycle. We are reaffirming our fiscal year 2023 guidance. With that, let's take your questions. Operator?
Thank you. We will now begin the question- and- answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause for a moment to assemble our roster. Our first question today will come from David Togut of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Good morning. I'll ask my question and follow-up together up front. First, both Tim and Edmund, you reiterated your view that you'll recognize revenue from the UBS contract in mid-calendar 2023. What does the annualized revenue and profit run rate look like from that contract kinda once you're up and running?
I'm sorry, was that the follow-up as well, David?
No, that's the first question. The second question is really the guide to decelerating stock record growth in the second half to mid-single digit from 9%. You know, what's behind the deceleration in stock record growth in the back half?
Okay, perfect.
Maybe I'll start off with the first question then. Good morning, David. Thanks for the question. You know, I mentioned on our last call for Q1 2023 in November that we expected the annualized revenue on the existing and in-flight contracts that we're working on to be roughly $100 million, and the amortization associated with all of the build and conversion costs to be roughly about $65 million. You know, we continue, as I said in my prepared remarks, to expect to recognize revenue in mid-calendar 2023. This will not be at the full annualized amount that I just mentioned and that we shared in November. The fiscal 2024 specific amount will be subject to the rollout approach that UBS has, and we'll have a more definitive view of what those near-term economics are when we finalize those plans.
As we've previously mentioned, I'll go on to say that we do expect it to be dilutive to margins, but we can offset that and continue to deliver margin expansion. I think the important thing, as we both mentioned in our prepared remarks, is that we're now past that peak period of investment and expect to return to more historical free cash flow and be able to deliver on our long-term financial objectives. Tim, I'll maybe turn it to you for the second component. Yeah. I think I just to reiterate, I think everything Edmund said was right. David, to really, you know, for us, this is something we continue to be really excited about in terms of the Broadridge $16 billion opportunity in wealth management and how this positions us.
As we look at the components that we've created for UBS and how we are now able to show those to other clients as live software, that makes a real difference in the other sales discussions, you know, which is why we're seeing a building sales pipeline, not for other transformational deals, but for a series of components. We feel good about that. Turning to the second part of your question, or the follow-up question on our guide for the second half of the year in terms of stock record growth. I think clearly, we have been at quite elevated levels of stock record growth over the past two years, you know, well above historic sort of mid-single-digit norms.
You know, last year, really despite a 20% decline in the market, investor participation remained very healthy with very good growth. You know, we can't really predict the market, but given its ups and downs, our best indicator is really our forward testing. That really gives us very good visibility into Q3 and pretty solid visibility into Q4. Really, it's based on that testing that we expect to see mid-to-high single-digit growth in the second half of the year. You know, a little bit stronger for equities than for funds, but I think, you know, collectively, call it mid-to-high single digits.
You know, we do think the fact that it's not sort of going back to levels of a couple of years ago, sort of not the growth rate, but the overall level really underscores a fundamental lift that has taken place driven by free trading, app-based investing, younger investors being involved in the market. That sort of one-time effect is then building on the continued growth driven by longer-term trends, including growth in managed accounts and more recently, direct indexing.
David , I'll just add to Tim's point. You know again, equity position growth of 9% is flat to last year, and the testing that Tim just mentioned, you know, continues to be in line with what our expectations were in our original guidance and what we have as well at that mid to high single-digit level. We are reaffirming our guidance and outlook on that. Again, the same thing with the fund position growth as well. You saw a little bit of a deceleration sequentially in that, but again, we said mid to high single digits, and we still expect that level to play out.
Understood. Thanks for that.
Our next question today will come from Peter Heckmann of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to see if you had any thoughts about where we are in the process of moving to direct indexing. It still seems fairly early, but conceptually, could we see managed accounts and direct indexing continue to generate really interesting growth that leads to strong growth in equity positions, but potentially fund positions continuing to slow down? If that could be the case, how do you think about the, you know, any relative change in economics due to mix shift?
Thanks, Peter. It's Tim. I do think that this is one of those things. It's the latest in a long series of investment product innovations that have helped drive sort of the broad trend that we call the democratization of investors and, you know, on top of, you know, things we're all familiar with, like 401Ks and IRAs and ETFs and managed accounts. It's pretty early days. I think it is, you know, even too early to really sort of pick it up in the numbers. You sort of begin to see it as a sort of a, you know, like a, the barest of breezes, you know, if you're trying to sort of talk about tailwinds. I do think it's one of those things that could gain traction.
There's a lot of benefits for for investors in it relative to tax efficiency. Not a big driver today. I think of it as not necessarily something that is gonna lead to. You know, I'd like to be here telling you it's gonna lead to some sort of fundamental, you know, change in our growth trajectory. I think it is something that just really supports, pardon me, the long-term trends that we've seen. You know, if we see it begin to have a real measurable effect, then we'll begin to talk about it and break it out. We're not seeing it really as an independent thing yet, but we are seeing it as one of the things that gives us confidence in the long term.
Okay. That's fair. Then just on the SECURE 2.0 legislation, can you just remind us that, you know, the portions of the business related to retirement plans at Broadridge and how you see that potentially being a tailwind for continued growth in retirement plan participants?
Yeah. I will, I'll let Edmund add on to this. You know, retirement is not a huge direct part of our business. We do serve all of the retirement record keepers, in their, in their client onboarding. We serve a lot of the 401K market in our mutual fund trade processing. We have a couple of our smaller businesses that directly serve. Obviously, it's a, you know, it's a big factor for all of our wealth management clients. It's a, you know, it's a big portion of wealth management. We don't see a...
You know, I'm not sure that we're gonna be sitting here a year from now saying we have a significant change in growth because of this, but it is something that is gonna put more money directly into investing, help our clients, help their ability to invest, and I think will be generally a tailwind for a couple of our smaller businesses.
Yeah. The only thing I'll add to what Tim said is that we do have in our mutual fund trade processing unit, economics driven by assets under administration in retirement accounts. If this legislation goes through and we see the increase in the amount of retirement accounts and assets, then we should expect to see some uptick in those assets as well. Overall, I think, you know, while small right now, this is generally a tailwind for us, and we'll be more specific about the economics as it plays out.
Great. That's helpful. Appreciate it.
Our next question today will come from Darrin Peller of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. How are you? I wanted to touch base on, you know, we always have this seasonal pickup in the second half for bookings, for closed sales that we have to, like, prepare for, which is to, you know, honestly, sort of to be expected. I think you guys were around 20%-20% or maybe 21%-22% of your budgeted bookings in this quarter, which is again, seasonally normal.
Maybe just make sure we get a little more color on what the actual drivers are of your conviction on the pipeline and what parts of the business they're coming from for the second half of the year to meet those targets that you guys have for the full- year. Just as a part of that, I mean, how much conviction do you have now, and what? Are you seeing any of those numbers flow through to the wealth side coming out of? Again, I know the UBS contract will be up and running, but it's not gonna be very profitable. It's really relying on other contracts and other revenues to complement that platform. Are you seeing any evidence of that yet? Thanks, guys.
Yeah, Darrin, I'll start, and Edmund can add on. I think, as you say, where we are right now is seasonally at a very normal place. When we look at our pipeline and then sort of the stages of deals in the pipeline for the second half, it's very similar to previous years in terms of the coverage of deals in for the second half and their stage of maturity. As we reiterate today, that's really, you know, what we're looking at. Specifically on the wealth side, you know, we said in the call last time that our pipeline is up 25% year-over-year.
It's not to the stage where we're beginning to see it in the sales numbers as much as it is sort of in the pipeline build. That's sort of, you know, where that stands. I think the quality of the conversations gives us a lot of good feeling. Then I just wanna come back to, you know, I discussed this in my prepared remarks, but the 30+ meetings that I've had with CEOs and other C-suite executives over the past month. Just in those conversations, there's, you know, there's a continued focus on next-generation technology, a lot of energy around modernization, digitization.
At the same time, management teams have a lot on their plates, which is why they like the componentized approach that delivers things and delivers value along the way. There's a lot of positivity around us as a partner. Those, I think, are the things that have led to our pipeline being really at an all-time high, and that then combined with sort of the stages of where those things are in the pipeline is what allows us to feel confident about the rest of the year.
Tim, I'll add one important point. Darrin, I know you know this, that the closed sales that Tim has just been discussing here, the in-year closed sales have, you know, aren't as impactful on our full year recurring revenue. It's the revenue backlog-
Right. Right.
-of what we've already closed, which is now 12% of recurring revenue that's the big driver of our growth. You know, I think everything Tim said is correct, but the revenue backlog is what gives us the confidence in our ability to be able to hit the guidance this year.
Just on the wealth side, just as a quick reminder of where that's, you know, how much evidence you're seeing that you're gonna be able to take advantage of the platform, the UBS platform you built out?
Yeah. I think that comes back to the... You know, anecdotally, when I think about the specific conversations that I'm involved in, and the enthusiasm as people, see those components and see them live, and then numerically, it really comes back to, the pipeline and, comparing that, year over year, which there is a substantial increase. I think this is more of a topic that, you know, we don't have the news on the actual sales, but we have the news on the pipeline, and there'll be an ongoing topic.
Okay.
We have the news on the pipeline and, you know, what we said in Q1 was that we expect incremental sales of $20 million-$30 million in that wealth. All that Tim is saying, I think, gives us confidence in that number.
Still feel good about that.
Which again, we feel good about and reaffirms our belief in the business case and the overall return for the company here.
Guys, just one quick follow-up is on the position side. You know, obviously, position growth and equity in mutual fund is really out of your control. It's a market dynamic. There's, you know, clearly there's some correlation to what people have in their savings accounts and what they can do in stocks or anything else in that matter in terms of investing. I guess just looking forward maybe into 2024 and beyond, I know it's early, but if you do see a change in the patterns of position growth rates, I mean, is this company... Do you feel that the drivers outside of that are strong enough to sustain the medium-term type targets you've been showing?
It seems like there's a lot of, you know, a lot of wood in the fire to provide for sources of growth, but I'd just love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
Yeah. I think, Darrin, you know, when we've looked sort of at the... It's true that, in past times when there have been significant dislocations like 1999 and 2008, in those extreme times, position growth went to went to zero. Didn't go negative, went to zero. If you look at the growth of our our ICS, you know, GTO is clearly just driven by pure technology sales, not related to position growth. If you look at the growth of our ICS business, it's been about half and half in the past couple of years in terms of revenue from new sales versus internal growth from positions.
Clearly, if position growth were to go all the way to zero, that would reduce our overall growth rate. You know, but that has never, you know, has not happened for an extended period. I think.
Yeah. Yeah.
... we wouldn't have any reason right now to think that our medium-term growth plans wouldn't be the same.
Yeah. Again, I'll just add to Tim's point, you know, position growth, we have a very diversified business. Position growth drives, you know, 20% of our overall recurring revenue, so I'll point that out. I'll just reiterating a point that Tim made, you won't be surprised. We look 6 months out and have confidence in that information, and we come and share that with you. You won't be surprised, we won't be surprised, and we have the flexibility in our model to make adjustments and ensure that we're still online with our growth objectives and guidance that we give if we see anything like that.
That's fair. All right. Thanks, guys.
Our next question today will come from James Faucette of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Thank you very much. Just wanted to follow up on questions around the rollout of the Wealth Platform with UBS and the leverage that potentially you get with other customers. I think it makes sense that as those start to go live, it should improve sales cycles, et cetera. What about from an implementation perspective? You know, are there things that you're learning in this process with UBS that should allow you to make commitments to potential customers in terms of their own new implementations, even if it's just for specific pieces or modules? How should we think about that on a go-forward basis in creating that flywheel?
Yeah, sure. First of all, James, welcome to the call. Great to have you on.
Thank you.
I do think. Look, there have been lots of lessons learned in the work with UBS. I think, you know, in the future, we would break things like this into smaller pieces and do them a little bit differently. You know, that's definitely a learning. Moreover, we have built a lot of muscle as we have gone through this in terms of our project management technology tracking, the level of our ability now to look at, you know, we've converted all to Agile. Where we are in the Agile sprints, the number of story points left, the velocity on the story points. You know, what are when you get into the testing, what are the expected defects?
What are the defects on the defects when they're retested? How do you model all that out from a capacity standpoint? We've built a whole platform around that, which we're now using, rolling out to the rest of the company. It's been a pretty incredible maturation as well as just, you know, becoming much, much more mature on leveraging AWS. You know, a lot of this new technology for UBS is all based in the cloud. Our maturation around that and around the development productivity that we're seeing is, you know, something that I'm very, very excited about. We've talked about how this work is really driving the technology transformation of Broadridge to be the true SaaS company of the future.
I think that piece is really playing out well. Thank you for the question.
Great. Just wanted to ask a question that related to headlines that we've started to get some inquiries from investors on, that's related to Tailored Shareholder Reports. Given the pending SEC regulation on Tailored Shareholder Reports, can you provide some color on how Broadridge is becoming involved or the opportunity involved in the creation and production of these reports to help offset some of the admittedly small headwinds associated with notice and access fees?
Yeah. Absolutely. Tailored Shareholder Reports, as a reminder to everyone, for the annual and semi-annual reports that people get around fund communications, it's two communications a year. Instead of getting, you know, either a link to or a notice of a very long report that's difficult to read, people will receive, investors will receive a 2- 3-page summary, just like summary prospectus years ago. We think this is very positive for investors. All the testing shows it is much clearer for investors to see. It's more cost-effective for funds than the long-term report. It's much more digestible to be e-delivered, and we're big fans of e-delivery. A lot of positives all around.
For us, as we said on the last call, you know, there is the slight fly in the ointment that we get paid right now for these notices. I think we said $30-some million that will go away. In the meantime, as we talk to our fund clients, this change, while it sounds simple, creates some real complexities for them. The reports are, the mandate is the reports come to investors not with a sort of generalized expense table that, you know, pertains to many different share classes, but that is tailored specifically to the share class that that investor has. In talking to our fund clients, you know, we talked to one fund complex who today does 200 different reports.
In the future, they're going to need to do 1,200 different reports. The scale of the work on them in terms of, even though the reports are short, creating them in a very tailored way specific to each investor, there's a lot of complexity there. That's all around data management, converting that data and composing it digitally and being able to send that's something that's a real strength of ours. We think that there is an opportunity for us to really help the industry.
We've had a couple of webinars, one with Ignites, one with Nicsa, among the best attended webinars, you know, for those groups over the past year, 'cause there's a lot of interest in the fund industry about how do they meet this mandate, which on one hand is sort of, you know, sounds like it makes sense from an investor standpoint, but if you're the one having to actually deliver it's tough. We are definitely working with fund clients. We definitely think we can help be part of, part of that solution.
That's great. Thank you so much.
Our next question is from Puneet Jain of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks for taking my question. I know like you talked about that the stock record growth can slow down to mid-single digits in the back half of the year. Can you disaggregate that 5% or so growth into benefit from secular tailwinds like zero commission direct indexing, and any potential macro headwinds there?
Puneet, it's Tim. I'll let Edmund add on this. It is... What we have is very specific testing where we're able to measure right now how many positions are there in these funds, which allows us to say, you know. How does that compare to where it was last year, and that's where we get the growth numbers for. We don't have specific data on macro versus tailwinds. What we do know is things like the positions in managed accounts were growing at, you know, double-digit rate. The positions in non-managed accounts were growing, you know, more mid-single digits. We can see that differentiation. You could do some math on that.
That's where when we talk about the tailwind, you know, we can incrementally measure that, and that's maybe, you know, a point or two. Then, you know, broadly, it's driven by the, by the macro with these, with these additions. I'm gonna see if Edmund can.
Yeah. Well, you hit on many of the points that I was just gonna hit on. The one thing I'd do first, Puneet, is just to be clear, we were saying mid to high single digit growth. That 5% would be sort of at the low end of what we expect here. I just wanna be clear on what's been in our guidance and continues to be what we're reaffirming here. As Tim said, you know, it's very hard to disaggregate between macro and other. You know, we've talked previously about broad-based growth in online and full brokers, in large accounts and mid-size and small accounts as well, and in managed accounts and self-directed accounts. We continue to see solid growth across each of those areas.
That I think, seeing that broad-based growth is what continues to give us the confidence in the guidance here.
Got it. It was good to know that the pipeline is strong, but are you seeing any changes in client behavior over the last few quarters in terms of maybe delays in decision-making or flow of deals through the pipeline? Any changes in client preferences for outsourcing versus insourcing, given the macro pressures that they might be facing right now?
Yeah. I would say clients are definitely busy. Our banking clients do have money. You know, it's an interesting one for us, which is we do best when they have money and sort of just enough money. If they have too much money, then they like to build it in-house. They don't have any money, then it's hard for them to fund the project. It has to be sort of just right is the sweet spot for our sales. I do think that, you know, the conversations, there's a lot of thought before people go forward. There's a lot of work to get these over the goal line.
I feel like that, and I'm sure you're hearing that, hearing that from others. At the same time, you know, we're moving ahead, and we got a lot of stuff done in the month, in the month of December. As for the preferences for in-house versus third party, I think if I go back 12 months ago, people had a lot of money. And, you know, you could sort of feel some of the conversations flowing a little bit more toward, "Well, maybe I should build this, maybe I should build that." And I think when you look at where things are now, I don't know if it's the money. I think it's as much all the regulatory change that is coming.
There are so many things that people are having to address, coming in from the SEC and others that, you know, they have a lot on their plate, and getting help is, you know, is very useful. You have to segment that a little bit by size of institution. Certainly all the tier two institutions are strongly looking for help.
Got it. Thank you.
At this time, we will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Thank you. This is Tim. I'll just close things off. I want to thank everyone for joining us this morning. I hope that what came through is how pleased we were with our second quarter performance and our outlook for the full year, that our growth drivers remain healthy, our business is resilient, and that with our investment cycle increasingly behind us, our free cash flow is strengthening. Thank you very much. We look forward to continuing the conversation next quarter.
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