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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

May 5, 2021

Speaker 1

Good morning. My name is Sharon, and I will be your conference facilitator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the BorgWarner 2021 First Quarter Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer period.

If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up a handset before asking your question. I would now like to turn the call over to Patrick Nolan, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Nolan, you may begin your conference.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Sharon. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We issued our earnings release earlier this morning posted on our website, borgwarner.com, on our homepage and on our Investor Relations homepage. With regard to our Investor Relations calendar, we will be attending multiple conferences now in our next earnings release. Please see the Events section of our Investor Relations homepage for a full list.

Before we begin, I need to inform you that during this call, we may make forward looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties as detailed in our 10 ks. Our actual results may differ significantly from the matters discussed today. During today's presentation, we will highlight certain non GAAP measures in order to provide a clearer picture of how the core business was formed and for comparison purposes to prior periods. When you hear us say on a comparable basis, that means excluding the impact of FX, net M and A and other non comparable items. When you hear us say adjusted, that means excluding non comparable items.

When you hear us say organic, that means excluding the impact of FX and net M and A. We will also refer to our market. When you hear us say market, that means the change in light and commercial vehicle production weighted for our geographic exposure. Our outgrowth is defined as our organic revenue change versus the market. Please note that we've posted an earnings call presentation to the IR page of our website.

We encourage you to follow along with these slides during our discussion. With that, I'm happy to turn the call over to Fred.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Pat, and good day to everyone. We're very pleased to share our results today for the Q1 of 2021 and provide an overall company update starting on Slide 5. I'm very proud of our strong start of the year despite the component supply headwinds. With just over $4,000,000,000 in sales, our first quarter revenue increased over 18% organically. This compares to a market being up less than 13%.

So our outgrowth was about 5 70 basis points for the quarter, which was ahead of our expectation and our guidance for the year. We saw strong outgrowth in North America and Europe. Our earnings per share increased year over year due to the impact of our higher revenue. Our incremental margin performance It was in line with our expectations. We delivered strong free cash flow of $147,000,000 for the quarter, a good start towards our full year guidance.

We also secured additional new business awards for electrified vehicles, which I'll speak about in a moment. And finally, during the quarter, we announced our planned acquisition of Akasol. The key strategic elements of the Acastol acquisitions are detailed on Slide 6. Based on the last couple of years of experience we have in this space, we're believers in the prospect of easy battery systems and are very familiar with the industry players. As a leader in this space, Akastor had been on our radar for a long time as a potential partner.

We're confident that Acastel is an excellent strategic fit for BorgWarner And we are really excited about adding their capabilities to our portfolio. In particular, we're attracted to Akasol's following strength: flexible battery technology across multiple cell architectures, proven technology and products With established manufacturing facilities already in serial production today, strong order backlog of about $2,400,000,000 primarily from leading OEMs and a focus on bus, CV and off highway applications. We're extremely excited and expect to complete the transaction during the Q2. Next, I would like to highlight a significant new program win for electric vehicles on Slide 7. BorgWarner's integrated drive module or as we call it, our IDM was selected by a major non Chinese Asian OEM for its upcoming global A segment electric vehicle production planned to start in mid-twenty 23.

This is a significant program for the company as it is our 1st IDM award combining BorgWarner's and Legacy Telphi Technologies portfolio. It is a validation of the potential we saw in bringing our 2 companies together. I want to thank the team's intense efforts to get to such a significant booking only 7 months after the close of the Delphi transaction, and there is more to come. This IDM features our electric motor, our gearbox and our integrated power electronics. It operates at 400 volts and has exceptional peak power of 135 kilowatt.

The IDM weight and space are reduced by integrating our gearbox, our 400 volt silicon inverter and our motor. This results in a maximized power density and functionality. The IDM also offers a scalable and modular inverter design, making it easily adaptable to customer requirements. This is an important step for the company with a great partner. Next on Slide 8, Let me summarize our new strategy called Project Charging Forward that we unveiled at our Investor Day in late March.

With successful execution of this strategy, we expect to deliver over 25% of our revenue from electric vehicles by 2025 and approximately 45% by 2,030. That compares to under 3% of revenue today. Project charging forward is 3 pillars. 1, we plan to profitably scale ELVs through our continued integration of Delphi and our ability to capture synergies. The new IDM win is a great example.

We would also pursue other organic and inorganic actions. 2, we intend to Expands more aggressively into ECVs. We will do that by leveraging our strong intimacy with CV customers as well as our position in ELVs. We're building out a go to market product portfolio and operation capabilities organically and inorganically. Our Akerstel acquisition is a key part of this expansion.

And 3, we plan to optimize our combustion portfolio, reducing our exposure by disposing parts of the portfolio that we believe our lower growth that on have a path to product leadership or that are not expected to deliver strong margins. We believe we can fund the EV growth underlying project charging forward, primarily from the capital generated by our existing operations. This is not a sudden change in the company's direction. It is a logical extension to what we've been building since 2015. We're Excited about the acceleration of the market towards electrification and about the momentum that we are building with our customers.

I want to take a moment to thank all the BorgWarner employees who are working very hard to both manage the present and accelerate the future of the company towards bevs. Next, on Slide 9, I'm proud to announce that BorgWarner achieved the Great Place to Work certified status for the 2nd consecutive year. Great Place to Work is the global authority on workplace culture. This certification validates BorgWarner's positive work environment. I've said before that the BorgWarner secret sauce starts with our people to lead, develop and attract the best talents.

We strive to be an employer of choice where we operate around the world. We cultivate a workplace environment that is collaborative, transparent, inclusive and that promotes continuous learning and excellence. So let me summarize our Q1 results and our outlook. The Q1 was a good start to the year, particularly considering the supply challenges currently impacting the industry. We delivered strong top line growth, and we believe we're tracking well towards our full year margin and free cash flow objectives.

Our Q1 performance has led us to increase our full year revenue and adjusted earnings per share guidance despite a lower industry production outlook as Kevin will detail. As we look beyond 2021, I'm extremely excited about our long term positioning. We are continuing to take significant steps that we believe will help us to secure our profitable growth well into the future. We are winning in line with our expectations in the electric world, both from a component standpoint, like inverters and e heaters, for example, and also from the latest generation system standpoint with our IDMs. We're focusing on a disciplined inorganic investment approach like the planned acquisition of Acastol, which adds great technology to our portfolio while supplementing our growth profile.

With that, I'll turn the call over to you, Kevin.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Fred, and good morning, everyone. Before I review the financials in detail, I'd like to provide a quick overview of the 2 key takeaways from our Q1 results. First, our revenue came in stronger than we were expecting going into the year. This was driven by the fact that we delivered solid outgrowth with both the legacy BorgWarner and former Delphi Technologies businesses performing better than expected. 2nd, our margin and cash flow performance in the quarter were strong driven by the top line results as well as our cost saving measures.

So let's turn to Slide 10. As we look at our year over year revenue walk for Q1, we begin with pro form a 2020 revenue of 3 $200,000,000 which includes $945,000,000 of revenue from Delphi Technologies. You can see that foreign currencies increased revenue by about 6% from a year ago. Then our organic growth year over year was over 18% compared to a less than 13% increase in weighted average market production. That translates to 5 70 basis points of outgrowth in the quarter, which breaks down as follows.

In Europe, we outperformed by mid to high single digits, driven by growth in small gasoline turbochargers and strong performance in multiple former Delphi Technologies businesses, most notably fuel injection. In North America, We outperformed the market by high single digits as we saw a nice benefit from the ramp up of the new Ford F-one hundred and fifty and other new business launches. In China, we underperformed the market by mid single digits against very strong outperformance in the Q1 of 2020. Also keep in mind, Q1 was a very unusual quarter last year in the face of COVID-nineteen, primarily in China. The sum of all this was just over $4,000,000,000 of revenue in Q1, which was a new quarterly record for the company.

Now, we do believe that some of the strong outgrowth we delivered in Q1 was a result of the production of build and hold vehicles by our customers in multiple regions of the world. That means it's likely that some level of our reported outgrowth in Q1 is inflated due to a pull forward of production into the quarter. This will have an offsetting impact on our expected outgrowth later in the year. However, our outgrowth for the full year is still expected to be above our prior guidance as I'll discuss further in a moment. With all that background in mind, we're pleased with the strong start to 2021.

Now let's look at our earnings and cash flow performance on Slide 11. Our first quarter adjusted operating income was $444,000,000 compared to the pro form a $274,000,000 in the Q1 of 2020. This yielded an adjusted operating margin of 11.1%, which was up compared to the 10.3% margin for BorgWarner only in the Q1 of 2020. On a comparable basis excluding the impact of foreign exchange, adjusted operating income increased $145,000,000 on $591,000,000 of higher sales. That translates to an incremental margin of roughly 25%.

This solid performance was driven by conversion on higher volumes, restructuring savings and Delphi Technologies synergies in excess of purchase price amortization. We were particularly pleased with this performance given elevated supplier costs that we experienced during the quarter. Moving on to free cash flow. We're proud of the fact that we generated $147,000,000 of positive free cash flow during the Q1, which was roughly flat year over year despite increased investment in working capital. Let's now turn to Slide 12, where you can see our perspectives of global industry production for 2021.

As a reminder, our market assumptions incorporate our view of both the light vehicle and on highway commercial vehicle markets. As you can see, we expect our global weighted light vehicle and commercial vehicle markets to increase in the range of 9% to 12%, which is down from our previous assumption of an 11% to 14% increase. This reduction to our prior market outlook reflects the ongoing impact of the semiconductor shortage on industry production. Looking at this by region, We're planning for North America to be up 17% to 20%. We see the largest incremental impact of the semiconductor shortage in North America with our market expectations down approximately 500 basis points from our initial assumptions.

In Europe, We expect a blended market increase of 9% to 12%, with that range being down approximately 200 basis points from our earlier planning assumption. And in China, we expect the overall market to be roughly flat year over year similar to our previous estimate. Now let's talk about our full year financial outlook on Slide 13. Starting with our pro form a 2020 sales, which includes $2,600,000,000 of revenue from the 1st 3 quarters of Delphi Technologies in 2020. As you know, Those revenues were not part of our P and L last year, but to provide year over year comparability, we thought this pro form a revenue approach for the 2020 base line would be useful.

You can see that our end market assumptions from the prior slide are expected to drive an increase in revenue of roughly $900,000,000 to 1 point $3,000,000,000 Next, we expect to drive market outgrowth for the full year of approximately 300 basis points to 500 basis points, which is a meaningful step up from our previous guidance of 100 to 300 basis points. Our higher outgrowth guidance is based on the Stronger than expected outgrowth in the Q1 and outgrowth for the balance of the year being higher than our previous guidance based on better than previously We expect our 2021 organic revenue to increase about 12% to 17% relative to 2020 pro form a revenue. Then adding a $400,000,000 benefit from stronger foreign currencies, we're projecting total 2021 revenue to be in the range of $14,800,000,000 to $15,400,000,000 That's up from our prior guidance by about $100,000,000 at both ends of the revenue range. Even with weaker end market outlook, Our stronger revenue outgrowth is driving an overall increase in our revenue guidance from the guidance we gave last quarter. Also, you should note that we're maintaining a wider than typical revenue range at this point of the year due to the wide range of potential production scenarios that I discussed on previous slide, which stems from the volatility and uncertainty in end markets arising from the industry wide semiconductor issues.

From a margin perspective, we expect our full year adjusted operating margin to be in the range of 10.1% to 10.5% compared to a pro form a 2020 adjusted operating margin of 8.3%. This contemplates the business delivering full year incrementals in the low 20% range before the impact of Delphi related cost synergies and purchase price accounting. From a cost synergy perspective, our margin guidance includes $70,000,000 to $80,000,000 of incremental benefit in 2021. That puts us right on track to achieve 50% of our total expected cost synergies in 2021. And based on our year to date performance, we believe that we're tracking at the high end of this range.

Based on this revenue and margin outlook, We're expecting full year adjusted EPS of $4 to $4.35 per diluted share, which is an increase from our prior guidance of $3.85 to $4.25 per diluted share. I would point out that this guidance now assumes a 31% tax rate versus our prior guidance of 32% as a result of the successful execution of certain international tax planning initiatives. And finally, we continue to expect that we'll deliver free cash flow in the $800,000,000 to $900,000,000 range for the full year. This is flat with our prior guidance as we expect the higher sales outlook to drive an increase in working capital that largely offsets higher adjusted operating income. This would still represent a record annual free cash flow generation for the company.

That's our 2021 outlook. Let's turn to Slide 14 for an update on the near term actions related to project charging forward. On the acquisition front, we believe we remain on track to complete the Aquisal acquisition in the second quarter. We've now received regulatory approvals in all required jurisdictions. The tender offer is in progress with the final acceptance period expected to be completed later this month and then with the closing shortly thereafter.

Akasol represents an important part of Project Charging Forward, as it represents approximately 20% to 25% of the estimated 2025 revenue from acquisitions underlying our plan and it significantly increases our exposure to the ECV space. As it relates to portfolio optimization, we continue to target combustion related dispositions with annual revenue of approximately $1,000,000,000 to be executed over the next 12 to 18 months. The process for these dispositions is underway. We would expect to update you on our progress there as we get closer to executing those transactions. So let me summarize my financial remarks.

Overall, we had a really solid start to the year despite the industry supply headwinds. We delivered 570 basis points of market outgrowth, an 11.1% adjusted operating margin and $147,000,000 of free cash flow. And we increased our full year revenue and earnings guidance despite moderating our industry production assumptions. Looking beyond our near term results, we're taking the necessary steps to accelerate the company's progression towards electrification. The Actasol acquisition and today's IDM announcement are great examples of our progression.

And importantly, We're executing our strategy from a position of financial strength. Ultimately, we expect that the successful execution of our strategy will drive value creation for our shareholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to Pat.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Kevin. Sharon, ready to open it up for questions.

Speaker 1

First question comes from Chris McNally with Evercore ISI.

Speaker 5

Thanks so much team. I wanted to ask 2 high level questions around EV demand and the first is around lead times. The business that you're winning in 2021 for the most part, is it fair to say that the start of productions are for 2025 and beyond. I was kind of surprised by the comments that you made about the IDM when being as early as 2023. Just trying to get a sense of the mega awards out there, what

Speaker 6

type of

Speaker 5

lead times we're looking at?

Speaker 3

Yes, we're talking about startup production in the second half of twenty twenty three. This is something that depending on the production The ramp up can be very well achieved. I don't see any issues with that at all.

Speaker 5

But is it sort of surprising that they're meeting that business out to be awarded so soon? Or is it maybe you just were only able to Actually disclosed that you had that specific customer just now.

Speaker 3

No, we're disclosing that win pretty much at the same time we won it. We're not disclosing the name as you've noticed and we'll do that when we can.

Speaker 4

Hi, Chris. I think it's fair to think that it's normally it's a 3 year Type of a lead time. So most of the production awards we would be looking to win in 2021 are probably more likely going to be in that 2024, 20 timeframe, but there's some fluctuation around that. And this one happens to launch later in the latter part of 2023.

Speaker 5

No, it's super helpful. I mean, the reason I asked is basically there was another European supplier that was mentioning some of the mega programs like VW. Basically, we're only going to award business for 'twenty five, 'twenty six, 'twenty seven later in the year. So I just wanted to check with you guys. It's super helpful.

The second question is maybe by region. And I know it's hard to be this sort of overarching question. But Where do you think specifically for the BorgWarner suite of products are you seeing right now the most amount of interest when we think about it on a region basis.

Speaker 3

No, I think on an e sale, we see growth In all regions, some regions will be more on components, some regions will be more on systems, even if that is not a clean-cut, We see growth in all major regions. It is also true that those The regions don't move at the same pace on electrification. So you'll see potential growth in North America A little bit later than in other parts of the world.

Speaker 4

Great. And then if

Speaker 5

I could sneak in one last one just to be greedy. I mean the IDM win looks Super interesting. Since it's an A segment car, should we expect lower Content per vehicle or can you still get that 1500 plus you sort of laid out in some of the detail at the Analyst Day?

Speaker 3

I'm not totally able to answer the price point at this point in time. I don't think you can Adjust the price point depending on the size. There is a little bit of that, but I'm not in the position to answer that in detail, Chris.

Speaker 5

Fair. Thanks so much, Craig.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from James Picariello with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning, guys.

Speaker 8

Good morning.

Speaker 7

On the guidance, can you just provide some context on the Q2 in terms of To what you're seeing thus far in OEM build schedules related to the chip shortage and just how you perceive that situation playing out in the back half relative to the market assumptions you laid out.

Speaker 4

And as you know, we're not providing quarterly guidance, but what I can tell you is that We do expect the bigger impact from the semiconductor shortage issue to occur really in the second quarter and a little less so in the third quarter. If you look at the way I would help you dimension it is, if you look at what's implied at the midpoint of our guide, for instance, about the last 9 months, it implies that the average quarterly revenue is somewhere in $3,700,000,000 zip code. And you should assume that probably, again, the semiconductor issue is more likely going to have a bigger impact in The nearer term as opposed towards the back end of the year.

Speaker 7

Okay. That makes sense. And then on BorgWarner's outgrowth, I mean clearly The Q1 came in stronger. Could you provide color from maybe a product perspective, segment perspective? I mean, what drove the quarter strength?

Because I I mean, I thought the first half year had a difficult diesel comp from an outgrowth standpoint. So you're just curious on the upside and how we should be thinking about growth over market the rest for the year and I guess also within the context of the chip shortage and lower volumes maybe near term.

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, I think a few of the things that we saw from a pure product perspective, the Ford F-one hundred and fifty launch was actually helpful in terms of driving Some of the outgrowth that we saw in North America, we saw gas turbo business in Europe, which was helpful. And we saw good performance across the legacy Delphi Technologies businesses, Stronger than what we were anticipating as we started the year, particularly in the fuel injection business. So I think we saw it across a wide variety of our businesses. And so as we look at the back half of the year, you saw that we took up the full year outgrowth guidance.

Before we were at 100 to 300 basis points for the full year. Now we're saying the full year is 300 to 500 basis points based on both what we saw in Q1 as well as what we're expecting in the back 9 months of the year. So in the last 9 months of the year, I think it stacks up to be about 200 to 4.50 basis points or so of implied outgrowth in that full year guide.

Speaker 7

Yes, very helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Noah Kaye with Oppenheimer.

Speaker 8

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. So the organic growth in the quarter, just year over year being paced by e Propulsion and drivetrain at 36%. What were the major drivers of that growth? Just trying to get a sense if the segment is more geographically weighted to last year's more affected markets, Whether there was some significant e business growth, if you can just give us some color on the segment.

Speaker 4

Yes, I mean, we're not We haven't really disclosed outgrowth by segment, but clearly when you look at that segment, we do have a lot of business in that segment coming out of China and the global Markets were simply up a lot more in China. If you look at our global weighted production, it increased about 80% In China versus you look at Europe and North America, much smaller increases are even down in North America on a blended basis. So that's Part of the reason you see stronger revenue numbers year over year in that business. It has a little bit more disproportionate skewing to the Chinese market than some of our other businesses.

Speaker 8

Sure. Makes sense. Thanks. And then maybe just if you can comment on the drivers for the increased CapEx outlook. Just curious to know There's new programs getting pulled forward, any other factors to consider in increasing the CapEx outlook for the year?

Speaker 4

Not specifically. I think as we've just Rolled up our programs and rolled up our forecasts. We've realized that probably needed to take that up a little bit. Along with that, there are Some of the investments we're making associated with the Delphi Technologies integration, particularly on the IT side that are actually being bucketed in Capital that we didn't anticipate, we thought it would be in a different line item. So we're bucketing that now in CapEx as well.

So that has a little bit of an impact, Although that's just a left pocket, right pocket when it comes to free cash flow outlook.

Speaker 8

Makes sense. All right. Thanks very much for the color.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Dan Levy with Credit Suisse.

Speaker 9

Hi, good morning. Thank you. Just wanted to start on the growth side. 1 of your key customers is highlighting a particularly challenged volume outlook. So maybe you could just give us a sense for and I know you've given us some ranges there, but To what extent is this end market guidance reflecting maybe some of the more draconian outlooks that have been cited?

And also if you could just comment in the quarter, how much revenue growth did you get from maybe partially built vehicles that may not be reflected in the production builds, that you shipped goods to.

Speaker 4

Yes. As we look at I mean, you can see our end market production assumptions we've taken down about 200 basis points globally, which factors in the intelligence we have based on production schedules, based on conversations with our customers and based on Other things that we see going on in the marketplace. So based on the things we've seen announced or discussed with customers as late as last week, that's contemplated in our full year guidance. And that's part of the reason we took our guidance down from a production perspective, particularly in the North American market. Well, I'm sorry, Dan, what was the second part of your question?

Speaker 9

Was there any growth benefit or revenue benefit in 1Q from partially built vehicle?

Speaker 4

Yes. We think the answer to that is yes, although it's hard to tell for certain. When you look at that outgrowth coming in at about 5.70 basis points, As we're trying to sort through the numbers, it's not 100% clear, but our expectation is the amount of outperformance we're generating relative Call it that 300 to 500 basis points full year is probably the amount that's arguably linked to the build and hold vehicles that we're seeing. But it's really hard to dimension that for sure, but that's our assumption at the moment.

Speaker 9

Great. And then my follow-up is really just More of, I'd say, a follow-up from the Investor Day, and it's around silicon carbide and high voltage inverters. So I think this is an area that you mentioned you have some market leadership. You've obviously got some pretty chunky wins here. The content could be a pretty material step up over some of the base IGBT inventories.

Could you just maybe walk us through your view of how you see mix for yourself or for the industry of silicon carbide or high voltage versus IGBT over time, maybe The margin and content differences and where how did the competitive environment is different? Wondering, is there As we get more silicon carbide, does that incrementally favor you more versus some of your competition?

Speaker 3

Yes. You see, one of the advantage that we have is that we can do lower voltage Silicon, higher voltage silicon carbide, very high voltage, 800 volt silicon carbide. And we are positioning Ourselves more in the high voltage, higher or let's say lower losses type of product, more efficient product with silicon carbide. The Tendency is to increase efficiency. So the tendency is to go to those direction of higher efficiency technologies.

At the end of the day, it's the customer's choice who want to who's going to decide what they want. And Silicon Carbide is primarily on high end vehicles today. They might find their way down to other ranges in the future.

Speaker 9

And the competitive environment, your competitive positioning versus others on silicon carbide or high voltage?

Speaker 3

I really like where we are.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Rod Lache with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi, everybody.

Speaker 11

So it does look like the adjustments that you're making the global production and North American production go beyond What we heard from Ford last week. And I'm just wondering if whether you think your customers are providing transparency Into the constraints that are kind of bubbling up through the supply chain from Tier 3s to Tier 2s at this level. Obviously, some questions about that in light of what we saw from Ford. And do you see other OEMs moderating their forecasts anywhere near what we're seeing for that one customer.

Speaker 3

So, Rod, what I would say is that For sure, we are very aware about what we are delivering, meaning that we are on top of Making sure that we can continue the flow of product and we have a lot of 3 party meetings with our customers ourselves And the semiconductor suppliers and we manage that very, very, very intensively and very as accurately as we can. We see some customers that have announced shutdown. Obviously, We are sometimes away through schedule changes, but we're more aware through the discussions that we have With our customers more than looking at the schedules, and that is informing also our market intelligence on what is likely to happen.

Speaker 11

Okay. And I was hoping maybe you just can elaborate on just two points. One is the strong turbo and GDI mix. Are there any changes that are happening here? Obviously, we've seen very Strong performance in hybrids in Europe recently, but are you detecting any kind of Durable strength that's happening there.

And any color on what you've experienced in terms of commodity costs and your outlook for that?

Speaker 3

So obviously, Rod, there is a strong demand for efficient downsized gasoline engine. And all efficient downsized gasoline engine are usually turbocharged and include GDI injection, right? So That is one key element for combustion based engines as well as for hybrid based engines. The second part of your question is around raw material. We are seeing some increases.

We are Incorporated, we have incorporated what we have seen so far in our guide. And the color I wanted to give you is that On the biggest raw material purchases, we have about 60% pass through with our customers. And when we go into To discussing those items with them, we usually do a little bit better than that. So that's the situation on raw material. And yes, we're We're seeing some inflation.

Speaker 11

What's the magnitude of that?

Speaker 4

We're not disclosing it, it's just embedded In our guidance. And so the good news is we're able to offset that with the performance we're seeing in the business and able to actually even take up the bottom end of our margin range

Speaker 8

for the full year.

Speaker 11

Understood. Thank you.

Speaker 12

Thanks, Robert.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Joseph Smith with RBC Capital Markets.

Speaker 6

Thanks, everyone. Maybe just to follow-up on that last point, Kevin. You are pointing to some weaker margins over the balance of the year. Now, as you pointed out, like the average revenue is lower than the Q1. So Is it really just a volume sort of flow through dynamic?

Or Is there sort of less or a bigger net raw material headwind or maybe some other things like freight has obviously been something that's been called out as a big constraint in the system.

Speaker 4

Yes, I mean it's really fundamentally linked to volume more than anything else. If you look at what's implied by our guide About the back half of the year, it still suggests that we're going to convert in the low 20%, call it 3% to 25% over the last 9 months of the year, pretty much in line with what we saw in Q1 on a year over year basis. So Nothing beyond volume. Certainly, there's puts and takes in our P and L. You have certain things going one way, certain things going another.

But overall, what it comes down to in our guide Is really the conversion on incremental revenue.

Speaker 6

Okay. Second question would just be on the IDM award, the first using combined Borg, Warner and Delphi Technology. I know you said it's for an A segment vehicle. Can you just Spend a lot of time talking about like how scalable is that, is what you're showing there for larger vehicles? And is it actually like an easier or harder for large or small I imagine each comes with some its own engineering complexities.

Speaker 3

It is scalable. It is modular from an inverter standpoint. The building blocks are modular, same for a motor standpoint. We have family of motor And the transmission that is hosting the whole thing We size up depending on the torque that we need to give. So It's fairly modular.

I would not think that smaller IDMs or A class vehicle IDM are more or less complicated than C class vehicle IDMs. There are different types of complexities. For sure, with the customers that we have, weight, perfect NVH And good power density, very good power density was key element for us to win this program As well as competitiveness, hopefully, and I think this is the recipe for success for the others IDMs that We'll hopefully come in the future. So you will see continuous booking both from a component standpoint, Power Electronics, combined power electronics boxes, Combining inverters and DC DC converter or any other type of combination, you will see also hopefully continuous booking on the system like this IDM.

Speaker 6

Okay. If I could just sneak one in, any update on the $1,000,000,000 of dispositions or the market for that that you expect by Next year and like can we expect some of that to occur in 2021?

Speaker 4

Yes, I think the process is underway. Nothing to report. Obviously, We're 45 days removed from announcing our project charging forward strategy. And I think we still feel good about the ability to deliver on that approximately $1,000,000,000 of So we'll update you when we're closer to executing transactions, but nothing additional to report at this point sitting here today.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 11

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from John Murphy with Bank of America.

Speaker 13

Good morning, guys. Just a first question, a follow-up on The production outlook, without naming names or maybe if you could give us groups, how variable To the upside and the downside, are the changes in schedules been? Because it just seems like some automakers, particularly Japanese, who've gone through this with the tsunami In the past had a better handle on this and had higher buffer stocks. The Europeans maybe somewhere in the middle and it seems like the North American companies are less prepared for this. And that's the reason there's maybe these extreme divergences as opposed to the companies not being up to date.

I'm just curious what your perspective on sort of the variances between Your customers' preparedness to this and why we might be seeing these divergences?

Speaker 3

John, I think it varies a lot across region, across customers. It depends upon They are sourcing strategies and things like that. We and by program, it's very difficult for us To figure out those dynamics, we're not in that detail of what OEMs, what the OEMs issues and details are, right? So what I can tell you is It varies and I don't have a way to ring fence this Either by region or by customer types, it's not possible, at least for us.

Speaker 13

Okay. And maybe just a follow-up on the IDM. Congrats on the award. It's the kind of thing that everybody was skeptical that you would ever get and Seems like you've gotten it pretty early on, so it's a good sign. As you think about this transition towards the electric powertrain, there are sort of Skeptics on your company that believe the automakers are going to in source everything and then there are some optimists or realists, as I would Call them that they understand at least part of the parts will get outsourced and maybe over time full IDMs might be a way things go.

As you look at the shift in technology, how different do you think it is versus other shifts in technology Seen in the past where the automakers are trying to learn what's going on and sometimes they might in source and sometimes they might outsource. How do you think Is it going to shape up differently or similarly to past transitions in technology?

Speaker 3

So John, I think at the end of the day, product leadership and scale will prevail. The force of that will win. There will be some in sourcing. The market is very big and the content per vehicle That we have on E is 3 times more than we have on C and I give some examples sometimes The one inverter is equivalent to pretty much what we can sell if we sell it all on combustion. So as you mentioned, the IDM is a very, very good example.

There is more to come on system outsourcing. And again, you will see some customers that are outsourcing. They want to learn in order to buy better. Some customers will in We'll in source some platforms, outsource some others. And that varies Across customers and across region and that will also vary over time, where I think when suppliers like us will have Very good product leadership and scale in an IDM, for example, but you have other products.

I think the likelihood for us to be able to sell more systems is becoming will become higher over time.

Speaker 12

But I'm sorry, just one follow-up

Speaker 4

to that. I mean, how different do you think that

Speaker 13

is in the commercial vehicle market? I mean, it just seems like there's huge potential for outsourcing there, Consolidation with the Agasol acquisition, it seems like your right to play is pretty strong. I mean, is there even a greater opportunity on the commercial vehicle side, at least for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 3

I would say that especially on the battery pack standpoint. There is obviously way more opportunities on the commercial vehicle for us than on PASCAL. That is one of The reason why we went and focused on commercial vehicle battery charging systems and battery systems. So on that front, there is certainly more room for outsourcing than on the Pascal side.

Speaker 13

And on the IBM?

Speaker 3

Well, on the IBM, I think generally, the likelihood of outsourcing in commercial vehicle By the volumes of those industries and by the diversity of what is required is At the high level, leading to maybe more outsourcing than in other segments. You will see in the commercial vehicle, I think maybe more combination of motor and power electronics As those 2 go together, one controls the other, then IDMs from a commercial view propulsion standpoint.

Speaker 13

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from Emmanuel Rauza with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 12

Hi, good morning, everybody. Good morning. I was hoping to follow-up on your comments About the in sourcing versus outsourcing of electric powertrain. So and wondering how much we can read into this specific first win. So, are you able to comment on whether this customer has other EVs either out or coming out and what would the sourcing strategy have been on those.

So I'm wondering If there's a way to read into a shift towards sort of like more in sourcing or whether depending on which platform and which class Vehicle, there's sort of like different sourcing strategy within that one OEM.

Speaker 3

Obviously, won't give you can't give you detail on the customer. What I can give you is that I think what it means is that great technology Is making a difference. And in line with my prepared remark, I want to again thank the BorgWarner team That I've been working since the closing of the Delphi transaction together to get in the world of this magnitude And that strategic impact 7 months after close, I think it's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 12

Yes, definitely. Are you able to comment on the volume expected for this program?

Speaker 3

No, I can't.

Speaker 12

Okay. So I guess on a different topic, so the volatility around The semi shortages. I was wondering how do you manage this on the underground and I guess in your operations, not to Keep taking on Ford, but I guess they gave some pretty clear outlook last week. It feels like a lot of their factories may be shut for A prolonged amount of time in Europe, potentially 6 or 8 weeks or so. And so and with pretty Low amount of notice, little notice.

So how do you manage this in terms of cost efficiencies and making sure that Things continue to run at the right level of margin.

Speaker 3

So there is 2 facets to that. First is the facet of What we supply to our customers that have semiconductors in, and we're working very well with our customers and with our semiconductor The suppliers in order to keep it going. 2nd is when we impacted by somebody else's shutdown, and you're taking Ford as an example, Well, we are agile enough to be able to manage that. And with the notice we have, This is something that we do for a living. We can flex and this particular element is In the grand scheme of BorgWarner is not going to move the needle to a point where it is impacting us too much.

And the plants and the plant managers know how to flex, What they have to flex in order to cope with the latest schedules.

Speaker 12

That's great to hear. And then the final follow-up on this topic is You were mentioning, I think, in the prepared remarks some supplier elevated costs. Any way to quantify this and how material those were in the quarter?

Speaker 4

Yes, there were 2 things that are really impacting us. 1, and the bigger item was really a troubled supplier situation that we have impacting one of our segments in Europe, and you'll see that disclosed in the 10 Q as well. And that had about an $18,000,000 impact And then the second, as we talked about earlier, is the impact of commodity costs on us as well. We are seeing some escalation there. As Fred noted, we do have recovery mechanisms for the underlying movements in the raw materials that are just a subset of our material purchases.

But that does have an impact on us and we'll continue to have an impact as we look ahead to the balance of the year. But again, both those things are contemplated in the 11% margin performance in Q1 as well as the full year guide of 10.1% to 10.5%.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Next question comes from David Kelley with Jefferies.

Speaker 14

Hey, good morning and good afternoon. Maybe starting with a Follow-up on that last semiconductor point. Just given your electronics mix, you referenced discussions ongoing with your Semiconductor Partners. I guess, can you talk about if you're currently seeing any price inflation in electronics or if you Expect to see increases and then also was curious to hear if you if so, if you see an opportunity to pass those through?

Speaker 3

We're not saying anything important So far, it is the situation is as you know, still very volatile, But we've not been faced with those types of demands yet.

Speaker 14

Okay, got it. Thank you. And then maybe quickly shifting gears, you raised your commercial vehicle underlying outlook. Just curious if you could talk a bit more about contribution to the quarter and how you're thinking about the CV outgrow through the balance of the year, that'd be great.

Speaker 4

Yes, I mean the main thing that we saw from a CV That was really China coming in a little bit stronger, including a Q1 from a production standpoint than what we were previously guiding to. But that's really all I would comment on at this point. It's mainly coming from that.

Speaker 14

Okay, got it. Thanks. And Kevin, maybe one quick follow-up on that. Can you remind us of typical incremental margin contribution from commercial vehicles?

Speaker 4

We haven't broken it down between commercial I think it's appropriate to think of us just in totality as being normally in At high teens from a conversion standpoint, obviously our guide this year, both what we delivered in Q1 and then what we're guiding to The full year suggests that we're in the low 20 percentiles from a conversion year over year perspective, which would contemplate anything in both the CV and the light vehicle space. And obviously, we're getting a tailwind from things like the cost synergies in excess of purchase price amortization, getting a tailwind from The execution of our restructuring initiatives both on the legacy BorgWarner side and Project Pioneer at Delphi. And so it's leading to conversion that this year is in the low 20s right now.

Speaker 14

Okay, great. That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

We have time for one final question. And that question comes from Brian Johnson with Barclays.

Speaker 10

Yes. Good day, everyone. It's a less glamorous part of the e drive and power electronics business than Pure Bevs. But can you comment a bit on the pace of your business in plug in hybrids And just how that could unfold in the next couple of years before further inflection in bed perhaps later in the decade or mid decade?

Speaker 3

We are seeing a pool, A strong pull actually for plug in hybrids, especially coming from Europe, also a little bit from China. And as you know, Brian, we're more into the high voltage plug in hybrids, more than in the lower voltages and we see strong pool. We're very, very happy with the programs that we have and the pool that we're seeing in especially in Europe.

Speaker 10

Okay. And I think a few people have hit on commodities, but in the past there have been some special alloys, I think, Forget which the alloy that bit you about 5 or 6 years ago was. Is that going to be a particular problem now in terms of the input cost of that alloy? And 2, are you now fully protected with pass throughs of that particular ally.

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, when it comes to steel costs, we are seeing Underlying inflationary pressures in the raw material underlying our material buy. Remember material spend for us runs around 55% of revenue and the underlying raw Material is a relatively modest percentage of that. But within that spend, the bulk of which from a raw Material exposure perspective would be on the steel side. We are seeing some inflationary pressures.

But as Fred mentioned, we do have cost recovery mechanisms with our customers I'd

Speaker 2

I'd like to thank you all for your great questions today. Sharon, you can go ahead and close out the call.

Speaker 1

That does conclude the BorgWarner 2021 First Quarter Results Conference Call. You may now disconnect.

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