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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Jul 20, 2020

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Mike, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Cadence second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then the number one on your telephone's keypad. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Alan Lindstrom, Senior Group Director of Investor Relations for Cadence. Please go ahead.

Alan Lindstrom
Senior Group Director of Investor Relations, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you, Mike. I would like to welcome everyone to our second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. I am joined today by Lip-Bu Tan, chief executive officer, and John Wall, senior vice president and chief financial officer. The webcast of this call is available through our website, cadence.com, and will be archived through September 11, 2020. A copy of today's prepared remarks will also be available on our website at the conclusion of today's call. Please note that the discussion today will contain forward-looking statements, and that actual results may differ materially from those expectations. For information on factors that could cause a difference in our results, please refer to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

These include Cadence's most recent reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, including the company's future filings and the cautionary comments regarding forward-looking statements in the earnings press release we issued today. In addition to financial results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP, we will also present certain non-GAAP financial measures today. Cadence management believes that in addition to using GAAP results in evaluating our business, it can also be useful to review certain results using non-GAAP financial measures. Investors and potential investors are encouraged to review the reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures with their most direct comparable GAAP financial measures. The reconciliations are available at the investor relations section of cadence.com. Copies of today's press release, dated July 20th, 2020, for the quarter ended June 27th, 2020, related financial tables, and the CFO commentary are also available on our website.

Note that Cadence is continuing to adhere to social distancing practices, therefore, we are conducting today's earnings call from our respective remote locations. Apologies in advance if there are any glitches or handoffs that take a little longer than usual. Now I'll turn the call over to Lip-Bu.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm very pleased to report that in the environment of continued uncertainty, we achieved excellent financial results for the second quarter of 2020. We exceeded our financial outlook on all key metrics as the team successfully navigate through challenges posed by the pandemic. In view of continuing strong, broad-based demand for our innovative solutions, combined with the robust design environment, we are raising our financial outlook for the year. John will provide more details on our Q3 and annual financial outlook shortly. We are all going through unprecedented times, and I hope that you and your family are staying safe and healthy. In this environment, our top priority continues to be ensuring the safety and well-being of our employees, customers, and communities.

Our employee base have adapted well to working from home, which appears to be the new normal, at least for the foreseeable future. Our R&D and customer deliverables are tracking well, our sales and application engineering teams continue to engage effectively with our customers by increasing our investment in infrastructure and collaboration platforms in order to maintain high level of employee productivity. Fueled by the generational drivers such as 5G, AI, and hyperscale computing, the data-centric revolution is accelerating semiconductor demand and design activity. As a result, we are seeing widespread demand for our EDA software, IP, and hardware solutions, our intelligent system design strategy has us very well positioned to benefit from these trends. Let us look at some of our design excellence highlights for the quarter.

We deepened our partnership with Renesas to accelerate their innovation through a wide-ranging expansion of our EDA and hardware solutions. Our new digital full flow with the innovative iSpatial technology continues its momentums with 10 new full-flow wins during the quarter. We expanded our partnership with Micron to a broader proliferation of our EDA solutions, including the deployment of our digital full flow for the development of their next-generation products. Cadence collaborated with TSMC and Microsoft to ensure customers to accelerate design timing sign-off using Cadence sign-off solutions in TSMC technology on Microsoft Azure. Our Cadence Verification Suite delivers the best verification throughput and had several wins across mobile, networking, and medical verticals. We deepened our relationships with the leading medical technology company as they expanded usage of our verification suite, digital and custom analog solutions. Our Xcelium simulator has been steadily proliferating with multiple migrations from competitive simulators underway.

We had another outstanding hardware quarter with the compelling value proposition of the integrated Z1 and X1 combinations being increasingly attractive to customers. The Palladium Z1 emulator, with its unique custom chip-based architecture, continue to win new customers and significantly expanded capacity at existing key customers. Our Protium X1 prototyping platform has ramped strongly based on the differentiated ability to provide very fast bring-up time and high performance. The growth of analog, mixed-signal, and RF designs is driving the need for high performance and accurate circuit simulations. Our massively parallel Spectre X circuit simulator continue proliferating at multiple customers like Skyworks, and won several competitive displacements, including at a market-shaping hyperscaler. Q2 was an especially strong quarter for our IP business, as it again delivered out double-digit revenue growth. Our refined strategy of focusing on star IP at the most advanced nodes continued to pay off.

Robust demand continues for high-speed SerDes and DDR IP. Tensilica has particular strength in HiFi true wireless stereo and vision application, as well as strong royalties. Our system innovation segment execute very well, delivering double-digit revenue growth. Several market-shaping customers across multiple verticals have successfully used our 2.5D and 3D IC advanced packaging solutions on production design. Integration of AWR and Integrand is progressing well, with the teams working on developing a comprehensive high-frequency RF platform. Business momentum was strong. AWR added six new customers in Q2. The new System Analysis tools continue to gain momentum with over 125 engagements underway, multiple new wins, and expansions at several existing customers. New Clarity customers included a market-shaping hyperscaler. New Celsius customers include ASE Technology. Now, I would like to take a moment and talk about inequality and racial intolerance.

These significant societal issues have led to heartbreaking events over the past few months, are very close to my heart. At Cadence, embracing diversity and fostering inclusion are key tenets of our culture. We believe that by being open to different views and perspectives, we learn from one another, and together, we become stronger as one team. We have several related initiatives underway, including training, pay equity, community donations, recruiting, and career advancement support, among others. We are committed to treating each other with respect and dignity and are proud to take a stand against racism, prejudice, intolerance, and violence. Now, I will turn it over to John.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Thanks, Lip-Bu, good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased with our results for Q2 and updated outlook for fiscal 2020. For Q2, we exceeded all of our key financial metrics for the quarter. Back in April, we were expecting that some Q2 revenue might shift to Q3, in part due to the pandemic-related challenges that we thought would delay a number of our Q2 IP deliveries and hardware installations into July in Q3. On reflection, business was stronger than we expected, and our team adapted well to the delivery challenges presented by the COVID-19 pandemic. Ultimately, those anticipated delivery challenges did not have the impact to our Q2 results that we originally feared. As with last quarter, our recurring revenue model gives us strong visibility into revenue for the remainder of fiscal 2020.

Based on our experience in Q2, we are much less concerned about our ability to substantially overcome any hardware and IP delivery challenges caused by the pandemic, and we factored that experience into our estimate of how much of our second half revenue we expect to record in Q3 and Q4. I will share more on the assumptions embedded in our outlook in a moment, but first, let's go through the key results for the second quarter, starting with the P&L. Total revenue was $638 million. Non-GAAP operating margin was approximately 35%. GAAP EPS was $0.47, and non-GAAP EPS was $0.66. Next, turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, our cash balance was approximately $1.2 billion, while the principal value of debt outstanding was $700 million. Operating cash flow for Q2 was $345 million.

DSOs were 45 days, and during Q2, we repurchased $75 million of Cadence shares. Before I provide our updated outlook for fiscal 2020 and what we expect for Q3, I'd like to take a moment to share the assumptions embedded in our outlook. Our outlook continues to assume that the export limitations that exist today for certain customers remain in place for all of 2020. Our outlook also assumes that the COVID-19 pandemic will remain a challenge for the remainder of the year. As a result, we have taken steps to prepare our workforce to work from home for longer, and we are anticipating that a number of our smaller customers will experience liquidity challenges that will likely result in some of those customers being unable to meet their contractual payment commitments.

We have taken the precaution of pausing revenue recognition on bookings from customers where we believe there is significant uncertainty surrounding our ability to collect payments. The financial impact of non-payment on those accounts has already been factored into our outlook for the remainder of the year. With that, our updated outlook for fiscal 2020 is as follows. Revenue in the range of $2.585 to $2.615 billion. Non-GAAP operating margin of approximately 33%. GAAP EPS in the range of $1.84 to $1.90. Non-GAAP EPS in the range of $2.50 to $2.56. We expect operating cash flow to be in the range of $810 to $840 million, and we expect to use approximately 50% of our free cash flow to repurchase Cadence shares in 2020. Here's how much of our annual outlook that we currently expect to record in Q3. Revenue in the range of $630 to $650 million.

Non-GAAP operating margin of approximately 32%. GAAP EPS in the range of $0.49-$0.51. Non-GAAP EPS in the range of $0.59-$0.61. We expect to repurchase $75 million of Cadence shares. You will find guidance for additional items as well as further analysis in the CFO commentary available on our website. In summary, Cadence delivered another quarter of strong revenue growth and expanding profitability. We're pleased to raise our outlook for the year. Before the pandemic, Cadence operated from around 50 sites across the globe. We are now effectively operating from a distributed network of more than 8,000 homes.

We are blessed to have many strong leaders located across the world, and I'm very impressed and thankful for how our employees are not only rising to the challenge, but positively thriving as they remain intensely focused on delivering successful outcomes for our customers and partners. Finally, I would like to close by thanking our customers, partners, and our hardworking employees for all that they do, and I'd like to remind them all that their health and safety continues to be our first priority. With that, operator, we'll now take questions.

Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone who wants to ask a question to please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad now. We will pause for a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Ruben Roy from Benchmark.

Ruben Roy
Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions, and congrats for continuing to perform so well in such challenging times. John, I want to start and just kind of drill into the commentary on the smaller customers and the liquidity challenges that you're talking about. Are these ongoing conversations you're having with customers? Have you seen some of this in the numbers that you've reported and guided to for Q3, or is this more sort of anecdotal thinking as you think about the guidance for the full year? Thank you.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Thanks, Ruben. Good question. Yeah, as we said, business was stronger than expected, particularly in hardware and IP. Last quarter, we were concerned that compliance with some containment measures around the globe would impact everyone's day-to-day operations, and we expected those measures to impact us in three ways. We thought if our customers' offices remain closed, that would impact us on our ability to install hardware. On the IP side, access to our own IP labs was impacted. We were fearful that that would impact our ability to complete delivery on our IP. Then the other thing we were concerned about was that if the shelter in place restrictions were prolonged, we were concerned that the pandemic would disrupt the normal business and operations of many of our smaller customers, and that would impact their liquidity.

Ultimately, we were preparing for collections challenges on those accounts, in the event that some of those customers were unable to pay us for what they purchased. On reflection, as I said in the script, on reflection with Q2 behind us, business was stronger than expected. Our team adapted well to the delivery challenges. The issue though, on collections from smaller customers remains. That the potential collections impact is a concern. We received a number of requests from customers to delay their payments to us. We've chosen to continue to provide services to those customers, and some will eventually get back on track and pay us. Many, despite theirs and our best efforts, may not be able to get back on track. We'll likely fail to collect on a number of accounts.

Our best estimate of that is we've basically reserved for about $17 million worth of bookings right now as of the end of Q2. To put that in context, over the three-year period from 2017 to 2019, we didn't collect on $36 million worth of orders. We've paused revenue now on $17 million worth of bookings. We're covered for twice the experience we had over the previous three years.

Ruben Roy
Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Very helpful detail, John. I guess just for a quick follow-up, I was looking at the core IC design tool performance in the June quarter, and down a little bit sequentially on the digital side, up a little bit on the custom IC side. It would seem that maybe that's where you're seeing some of the near-term issues. Is that the way to read into what's going on with those line items in the-?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, absolutely. The impact on collections, particularly with smaller customers, is more heavily slanted towards our software business. We pause revenue on a number of contracts where we think collections are challenging. That impacts the software business more than it would, say, hardware or IP, because in many cases on the hardware side, because we get revenue upfront, we expect payment upfront. You don't have as much credit exposure there. On the IP side, much of our IP revenue is coming from royalties, and royalties are typically with customers, like with our top 100 customers, which are very good credits customers. They have strong balance sheets. That this is really isolated to that group of customers that are kind of outside our top 100, and it's the kind of the smaller customers.

Ruben Roy
Analyst, The Benchmark Company

Got it. Okay. That's very helpful. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tom Diffely from D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Thomas Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Yes, good afternoon. I guess first, John, just following up on the last question, is there a geographic bend to the small customers that you're worried about?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Sorry, could you repeat that, Tom? I didn't catch that.

Thomas Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Oh, sorry. Yeah, is there a geographic bend towards the customers that you are concerned about, the smaller customers, or is it broad-based across the world?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Not particularly. If there's any particular demographic that's been hit, it's smaller customers. It's right across the globe, but very much in smaller customers, and probably mostly in software over IP or hardware.

Thomas Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. It sounds like your business is fairly strong across the board. I was wondering if you are seeing any kind of bifurcation between your consumer-driven customers and the high-performance compute customers that seemingly are much stronger today.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah. Where we've been, as we've been trending Yeah, I think certainly on the royalty side, that I think royalties for the first half are like 25% higher than they were for the first half of 2019. It's hard to break it down in terms of where there's strength in different parts of the business. I think it's kind of across the board. We've seen strength across the board. The challenge on the credit side are quite random in the smaller pool of customers.

Thomas Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. It sounds like a lot of customers or a lot of players out there are seeing strength in high-performance compute offsetting some weakness in consumer, but from what you say, it sounds like you're continuing to see strength across the board. There's kind of a new.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah. Well, our royalty revenue is related to the consumer electronics market mainly, and we're seeing strength there, like you say, 25% up. I think the royalties were around $21 million for the first half of the year compared to just under $17 million for the first half last year. IP was strong. On the design IP front, our refined strategy of focusing on star IP at the most advanced nodes continues to pay off. Demand for high-speed SerDes and DDR IP continue to be strong with deployments at leading mobile, networking, hyperscale, and storage customers. On the Tensilica side, the highlights there were our customizable scalable Vision DSP IP, including deployments in true wireless stereo and vision applications, helped along with strong royalties to have a very strong performance for Q2 revenue and IP.

Thomas Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Tom, just to add on, this is Lip-Bu. I think clearly besides, it's kind of a broad base, but I think your question on the data center cloud hyperscale, we see very strong demand because of the infrastructure when people work from home, there's a lot of scaling. We see also very strong in that area, too.

Thomas Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. Thank you, Lip-Bu.

Operator

Your next question comes from John Pitzer from Credit Suisse.

John Pitzer
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Yeah. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for letting me ask the question. John, maybe different sides of the same coin, but I wonder if you could just help me understand as you look into the September quarter, what's driving gross op margins down sequentially? I would've thought that perhaps in the current environment there were some costs that you might have to incur around COVID mitigation actions that actually might dissipate as we go into the back half of the year. I guess similarly, over the last several years, the operating cash flow has been more front-end loaded, first-half weighted than second-half. Just relative to your guide, it feels like the second-half is only about 30% of the operating cash flow. I'm wondering what might be driving that. Maybe it's the same thing, maybe it's different.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, John, good question. On the op margin profile, there is a couple of things in that question, so let me unpack it a little bit. In terms of the op margin profile, the expectation that we had when we gave guidance for Q2 was we thought that some revenue might shift from Q2 into Q3. Our experience was in actual fact that there was a net shift the other way. If you look at our Q2 guidance, we went out with a midpoint of $590 million having followed Q1, which was $618 million, when typically you would expect Cadence to be pretty much, you would expect $618 million, $620 million or something for Q2. We were expecting about $30 million to push from Q2 into Q3. As it happened, about $10 million has moved, maybe just less than $10 million has moved from Q2 into Q3.

There was about $10 million of deliveries that we couldn't get done in the quarter, that will now revenue in Q3. We had approximately $20 million that came the other direction, and that was customers that as things lifted in June, we had customers in new bookings in the second quarter that wanted to accelerate the installation on what they'd purchased. Of course, as our guys had time when they had some customers that they couldn't deliver to, they just kept on going down through the list. Typically at Cadence, you probably have maybe two-thirds of your orders or bookings in any one quarter would fall into the last month of each quarter. It's unusual for such a high amount to get delivered in the quarter. Like I say, our experience in Q2 was there's probably some shift of revenue from Q3 into Q2.

Net net, maybe about $10 million-$15 million from Q3 to Q2. On the expense side, in contrast to that, because of the uncertainty in Q2, we held up some of the offers on hiring until late in the quarter. Once we got comfortable that we're good for revenue in the quarter, and that it looked like customers were very resilient, our team was very resilient in terms of overcoming the challenges, we released the offer letters, hiring accelerated into the end of the quarter and has continued at the start of this quarter. That's probably meant that some expenses shifted from Q2 to Q3, some revenue shifted from Q3 to Q2, you end up then with a 35% operating margin in Q2 compared to our guidance of 30%, Q3 is at 32%. Also, you mentioned operating cash flow, I think.

If you recall, last quarter, I hesitate to say it, but last quarter we were mentioning that we had deliberately closed some strategic business early in the year. What you're seeing is we got paid for that business. You've probably seen an uptick in cash and an uptick in deferred revenue. My expectation right now would be deferred revenue will burn off from this level through the end of the year because we deliberately aim to get paid early.

John Pitzer
Analyst, Credit Suisse

That's helpful. As my follow-up with Bu, it's nice to see that China as a % of revenue has remained fairly stable over the last several quarters at kind of low double digits. That doesn't prevent us from still worrying about the concern that perhaps there's some buy forward going on in China, just given U.S.-China relations and how critical you are to the overall semiconductor supply chain in China. Wondering if you could just handicap what you're seeing in China today. Is there a risk that there's pull forward? How do you try to manage through some of the ebbs and flows of the tensions between the governments of the U.S. and China?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Good question. I think overall our China business remain quite good. The Q1, Q2, as John mentioned, I think clearly the hardware and IP, which are more upfront revenue and that help. I think overall, we're providing the tool and IP globally to our customer, and meanwhile, we're complying with the U.S. regulation. It's very fluid and we are closely monitoring it. So far, I think all the uncertainty and we already built into our estimate. I think overall, we are confident. I think we continue 12%, I think quarter-to-quarter, sometime it varies, but I think overall, it's a strong business in Asia and China for us.

John Pitzer
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Perfect. Thanks, guys. Congratulations on the strong results.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from Mitch Steves from RBC Capital Markets.

Mitch Steves
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. The first one I kind of want to drill on is just kind of the geographic movements here. It looks like the U.S. is up pretty significantly. I know you guys are concerned about kind of what I assume are the smaller players not being able to make payments and kind of rolling off some money for you guys there. Is there any chance, or maybe I'm thinking about this incorrectly, any chance that basically the larger players end up investing more? Because what we picked up is that a lot of these larger companies are actually pushing forward on the tech front with chip design.

Wouldn't that actually offset and actually be a benefit to you guys if the larger customers ended up spending more on EDA tools while the smaller ones kind of get brushed off to the side?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

I think, Mitch, a good question. I think that geographically, overall, across the board, we see strong design activity. We don't see any slowdown. I think there's a silicon renaissance in the industry with all the generational driver like AI, 5G, hyperscale, and we move into this kind of data-centric, big data that is really driving a lot of silicon development and the design. To answer your question in term of the big guy, we call it market-shaping customer. I think you can read from my transcript that clearly I highlighting all this full flow and all this proliferation with market-shaping, those are the leader in the industry. We pay a lot of attention, this is a golden opportunity to double, triple down in R&D for the next generation products.

When this cycle recovers, there will be a much stronger leader. To answer your question, the design activity doesn't slow down. Actually, those big guys are really driving the R&D, and we're delighted to be their trusted partner to work with them.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Mitch, John Wall here. I mean, just the fact that we raised the year, despite the fact that we have some collection challenges with the smaller customer base, illustrates that larger customers are investing more in R&D.

Mitch Steves
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it, understood. Then just kind of switching gears, I didn't hear much about 3D Clarity. It's been maybe two quarters or so you guys are talking more about COVID and core EDA. Can you maybe provide an update on what is going on with the 3D Clarity product in terms of customer wins, backlog interest, anything like that? I realize that the environment's a little bit strange, but I think it'd be interesting to hear what's happening with the 3D Clarity product front.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah. Happy to share with you. This is a good market for us. TAM market is about $700 million. Clearly, our product, as we mentioned earlier, customers see up to 10x performance and continue providing the accuracy. This time we highlight market-shaping hyperscaler go with us. We have over 125 engagements in this together with Celsius. I think a lot of momentum, a lot of multiple new wins, and more important, expansion at the existing customers. I think overall, we are very excited what product we have, and we continue to really drive the differentiation and engaging with the leading customer that they can see the value.

Mitch Steves
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, great. Just one really small one. Should bookings continue to go up this year, or are they going to be flattish kind of at three seven?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Sorry, your question again?

Mitch Steves
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Just really small one. On the backlog you guys provide now on a quarterly basis, should we expect that to be more stable or go up? I realize last year was up 20%. This year it's pretty stable at $3.7 for a couple of quarters. I'm just trying to understand what we should expect for your backlog.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

John, you want to highlight that?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, Mitch, we don't guide bookings, but given that we deliberately closed some business early in the year and pulled out some business from later in the year, I'm not surprised that our RPOs were flat from Q1 to Q2. I wouldn't expect a dramatic change between now and the end of the year.

Mitch Steves
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Gary Mobley from Wells Fargo.

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hey, guys.

Thanks for taking the question.

Congrats on a strong quarter. I wanted to start out by digging a little bit deeper into the China conversation. I know we have this new mil-aero rule as part of the newest export restrictions, and I know you guys have been working hard to try to answer some of the topics on it. Perhaps don't have 100% clarity as we sit here today, maybe if you can give us an update as you see it today, how it impacts maybe your fourth quarter or even looking at fiscal year 2021 and beyond?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Gary, are you asking about this new direct product rule from the military end-user use rule?

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

That's right.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Okay. I think overall, our outlook included all the estimate on the impact on the trade restriction. Clearly, we're monitoring very carefully. We're complying to all the requirements and make sure that our customer commit to us is not tending to the military use. It's a lot of more work, and then we're working towards that, and compliance the number one priority for us. The delay and support the customer is equally important, but I think we make sure that we're complying to all the requirements.

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Gary, any incremental impact of the military end-use or the direct product rules is already included in our guidance.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yep.

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. It's my understanding it doesn't go into effect until September, so not really much of an impact so much in fiscal year 2020, right?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Like I said, we reviewed the potential impact on our business and included everything we know today into our guidance.

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

outlook for the remainder of the year.

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. As my follow-up, I wanted to shift gears and talk about sort of the setup for fiscal year 2021. I realize you're not going to give any sort of preliminary revenue guidance for the year, but if I'm not mistaken, the extra week and some acquisitions may be contributing to roughly, what, 200 basis points of revenue growth this year. We get on the flip side of this year, should we think about an equal amount of perhaps a headwind looking into next year?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

I think, well, the acquisitions are pretty small. It is that 53rd week definitely needs to be a consideration when you think about next year, Gary. I think last quarter I said that I expect revenue impact for that extra week to be about $40 million. Right now, I would say it is probably closer to like $43 million. On the expense side, I would guess on a non-GAAP basis, maybe about $33 million. We will get a full impact, a full week of expense. On the revenue side, it will be that recurring revenue part of our business that we get the extra revenue for. I think the impact of that 53rd week, my own modeling when I do it, I kind of assume $43 million for revenue, about $33 million for expense.

Naturally, you have to adjust for that if you're comparing a 53-week year to a 52-week year. Like you say, we're not guiding 2021.

Gary Mobley
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Got you. All right. Thank you, guys.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

No worries.

Operator

Our next question comes from Rich Valera from Needham.

Richard Valera
Analyst, Needham

Thank you. Let me add my congratulations to the Cadence team for another strong quarter in tough conditions. John, just wanted to follow up on the questions around the strength in the quarter, which I understand, I guess, was driven by less than feared dislocation in the hardware and IP businesses. Is that also what accounted for the increase in your overall annual guide, or there's some other product areas that contributed to the increase in the full-year guide?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, I think, we were very pleased with how our IP business is doing. I think it's mainly the functional verification business, that product category, I think that's probably the one that's increased the most with a strong hardware quarter, outstanding hardware quarter. It's a compelling value proposition with the integration of Z1 and X1 as a combination that's increasingly attractive to customers. The Z1 emulator with its differentiated custom chip-based architecture, we're continuing to win new customers and significantly expand capacity at existing key customers. With Protium X1, the prototyping platform there has ramped up strongly, and it's got a unique ability to provide very fast bring-up time and high performance. The cross-selling between Z1 and X1 and vice versa, was very resilient and apparent in Q2. It's continued, the early weeks of July, we're already seeing that strength continue.

Now, I gave a range of $20 million again for Q3 on revenue, and that was partly because we did see a shift from Q3 to Q2 for revenue, slight shift, net shift. That was mainly on the hardware side. We saw that customers looking for earlier delivery. I'm not sure how much of the pandemic is driving that behavior and customers are thinking that get the hardware in now, but Q3 is strong again. Again, we've included that in the guidance.

Richard Valera
Analyst, Needham

That's very helpful, thank you. For my follow-up, just wanted to ask another one on the System Analysis products. You'd been giving kind of a quarterly wins number. I think it was 30+ last quarter, you seem to maybe have pivoted towards an engagement number. Is there an equivalent engagement number from Q1 that we could use to compare to sort of how that's expanded over the last quarter? Will you, at some point, maybe revert to giving out wins as opposed to engagements?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, I think-

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

What, sorry?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

This is a very strong product offering for us. The two products have been well received on the Clarity and Celsius. We highlight a couple of wins that we have. We have over 125 engagements and multiple new wins, rather than give a boring number of wins that we have, I think it's significant enough that we just kind of lump it into this 125 engagements that we have. More important is that the expansion at the existing customer, that means that they see the value, they want to buy more, and that's very exciting for us.

Richard Valera
Analyst, Needham

Oh, that's great color. Thank you, gentlemen.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Pradeep Ramani from UBS.

Pradeep Ramani
Analyst, UBS

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I had a couple questions on China. When you look into the back half of the year and maybe in 2021, are you feeling sort of better or worse about design activity on the leading edge, especially in China? Is there any change in how you perceive that? Secondly, in terms of the military end-use rules, did I understand you right when you said that it's already in the guidance, but have you finished determination of that, or are you still sort of working through the problem? Thank you.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Let me answer the first question, and then John can answer the second one. On the China side, on the second half, we continue to see strong business, as a lot of China companies, semiconductor company are scaling and then more and more into the advanced development. Clearly, as long as it's in the entity list, we are not able to do business with them. Some of them are not, they are still growing, and we clearly supporting them globally. I think overall, we see strength in the semiconductor and in China in the second half and next year. We're not guiding next year. The military side, maybe John can highlight that.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, Pradeep, we've considered military end-use and direct product rules and basically all export limitations that exist today in determining our outlook for the remainder of the year. That's based on our existing customer base and the products that we sell today. To the extent that there's potentially a new customer in Q3 that we haven't dealt with before, we haven't taken that into consideration. I don't know until we see that new customer how it impacts us or not. Based on everything we know today, we've factored what we know today into the outlook.

Pradeep Ramani
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thank you. My follow-up, I just want to drill into the IP strength sustainability into the back half of the year. Do you think IP is sort of sustainable in H2, and is it being driven by any specific geography, or is it more broad-based? Thank you.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, IP is more hard to predict quarter to quarter because it's more upfront and lumpy, except the Tensilica that we have a continued strong royalty income coming in. Clearly, we are delighted in the Q2, have a strong and IP business, and then clearly, our Tensilica is really shine, and especially in the HiFi and true wireless studio and vision applications. Meanwhile, continue to really validate our Star IP refined strategy in term of the high speed SerDes, especially for the hyperscale guy. DDR and IP become more and more critical in some of this Gen 4, Gen 5 and the opportunity. We are pursuing that, but it's a little bit lumpy quarter to quarter.

Pradeep Ramani
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jay Vleeschhouwer from Griffin Securities.

Jay Vleeschhouwer
Analyst, Griffin Securities

Thank you. Good evening. John, I'd like to follow up on two things that you mentioned in a conversation we had last month. First of all, you noted that there is very little difference for Cadence in terms of the kinds of resource or customer coverage requirements that you have vis-a-vis semiconductor customers versus systems customers. That would seem to make sense. The Apple design infrastructure, for instance, would seem to be not terribly different from a typical semiconductor company. The question is, are you thinking about that at all differently for the next number of years in terms of perhaps changes in resource requirements, resource intensity, anything of that kind as between semiconductor versus systems customers, particularly as you try to drive your computational software strategy? I'll ask the second question as well.

You noted in that conversation that you'll typically bring on applications engineers or AEs after you have customer commitments in hand, and AEs are typically your second-largest number of openings after R&D. We noticed that at the end of the quarter, your number of AE openings were lower than three months, six months, and 12 months ago. Is that because you had a surge of prior hiring and added capacity? Was it circumstantial based on what happened in Q2? Or maybe reconcile that comment about AE capacity versus customer commitments.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Sure, Jay. Thanks for the question. Let me take the second part of your question first, if I may, that in terms of, I know you do excellent analysis, and I read your Software Standard regularly, to keep track of what's happening on the hiring front. What we've seen in terms of AEs, we had a number of AEs lined up to hire, and we paused. We probably took them off our openings because we had identified the candidates. We released those offer letters toward the end of the quarter and into this quarter. There'll be a pickup in hiring. You'll see a pickup in headcount by the end of Q3. We continue to hire AEs. They're a fundamental resource for us in terms of supporting our customers.

I think in terms of resource requirements between system companies and semi companies, we like to say, look, we win with the winners. We take on at the lower process nodes, the toughest designs and design challenges of our biggest customers and work very closely with them to solve those. Our resource requirements on the bigger accounts are very heavy, but those are very demanding customers. As a result, our products get better and better, and by the time they cascade out to the broader base of customers, there's less maintenance required. We found that that's the kind of sweet spot for us from a margin perspective, that we put a lot of effort up front at the lower process nodes and then make sure that the products are very robust when they go to a broad release.

Jay Vleeschhouwer
Analyst, Griffin Securities

You said, I think, that you have about $70 million that you've circled with regard to small customer bookings risk. Would it be fair to say that that amount represents barely 3% of your total annual bookings? Would that be the envelope of risk relative to total bookings?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Interesting. I don't think the annual bookings is the right thing to measure it against, Jay. I would measure it against total backlog, because the bookings that we've identified, the $70 million of bookings, is out of that backlog. The $70 million is not an annual number. In that pool of $3.7 billion of backlog orders, I think we have $70 million of risk where we have collections issues, and we're anticipating that we won't be able to collect on that $70 million. That $70 million, like I say, is relative to our experience from 2017 to 2019. We had a total experience of only $36 million that we couldn't collect. That was about $12 million a year on average.

If I go back to the great financial crisis, like 2008 to 2010, and we look at that pool of smaller customers, in those three years, 2008 to 2010, our experience was about $70 million for those smaller customers at that time. Our reserve, I feel comfortable that that's the right level and we've identified the right pool of customers that we think that we're not going to collect on. I think that's the accurate number that we should have in our guidance.

Jay Vleeschhouwer
Analyst, Griffin Securities

Understood. Thanks very much.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

No worries. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from Joe Vruwink from Baird.

Joe Vruwink
Analyst, Baird

Great. Hello, everyone. Lip-Bu, I wanted to go back to your opening remarks. You called out 5G AI hyperscale. Maybe if we can broaden that to also include things like automotive, industrial Internet of Things, all the newer growth vectors. In your view, has COVID caused the trajectory of any of those opportunities to maybe change for good or bad? For instance, an industry like automotive going through the struggles that it is right now, does that cause the automotive opportunity to change, perhaps for the worse, in contrast to something like hyperscale computing or artificial intelligence that might actually be changing for the better? Just curious on your thoughts there.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Good question, Joe. Just share my personal view. In term of automotive, clearly, there are some slowdown and in term of the industry. Meanwhile, I think the AI machine learning ADAS development still continue. We are delighted engaging with multiple leaders working on that. In this quarter, we highlight the deep collaboration with Renesas. That has been a great partnership for that. That is on the automotive side. In term of the industry, clearly they also get affected with COVID. Meanwhile, they are very quietly, this whole digital transformation, Industry 4.0 is continue. We are now engaging heavily with some of the leaders and then in term of drive some of this big data implementations and then more software-defined, and we're engaging very actively. The one that I'm most excited about is this transformation of the AI machine learning.

It is all about data. How do you organize data? How do you analyze the data? How do you store the data? The hyperscale guy are working big time on this, and we're delighted to be their trusted partner, providing the tool and IPs for them. I think that part, we see a tremendous increase of design activity.

Joe Vruwink
Analyst, Baird

That's great. One follow-up. I think you called out that this quarter you secured 10 new wins on your full digital flow product. I think you called out 50 wins there over the course of 2019. I guess as you step back and look at the broader EDA industry, do you see more of the industry revenues or certainly the incremental growth in EDA revenues going towards a full flow type product? In that context, how would Cadence maybe compare in thinking of the traditional EDA industry revenue growth profile? How might Cadence actually look compared to the industry over the next few years in your view?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah. Good question. Digital is the biggest TAM market for EDA. That's something we pay a lot of attention to it. Clearly, we are continue to innovate, continue to drive success. We highlight this iSpatial that make the whole digital, the place and route and synthesis a more effective integration. To drive the productivity and performance. We are pushing very hard on the full flow because each engine, we have the best of class. Right now we are basically tell the customer, when you move down the geometry to seven to five to three, you cannot do the mix max. You want to really have a fully integrated solution that you can count on to drive the performance PPA runtime. That is critical for their success.

Timing paths is critical, and we want to be the trusted partner to work with them. We are delighted to highlight the Renesas. We are highlighting the Micron expanding proliferating for their next generation development. We are going deep with TSMC and some of the key foundry partners to really drive the advanced node and become a must-have. That is something that we try to drive. Far, we like what we have, and we continue to drive the innovation through massive parallelism, the drive with AI machine learning. We have a lot of data on how to drive the performance, and we also move aggressively into the cloud. Some of the tools we move into cloud native, so that we can drive the performance that can delight the customers.

Joe Vruwink
Analyst, Baird

Great. Thank you very much.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Jackson Ader from JPMorgan.

Jackson Ader
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thanks for taking my questions this evening, guys. Given some of the announcements the last couple of weeks on one particular semiconductor merger, I thought it would be maybe worth it to hear, Lip-Bu, just kind of strategically, how does maybe the merger of two customers, how does it generally impact Cadence in the short run, and then in the long run? Does it impact decision-making? Does it impact total flow and that sort of thing?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Good question. Far, as you can tell from our past record, we manage well through consolidation in the customer base. In some cases, we are also engaging actively on both sides. When they do the merger, we are delighted to see that, and a much stronger platform. We can even do more with them. Both companies that you allude to are very good companies, great companies. Far, I think the consolidations, each one are unique and in their own way. We now try to be the trusted partner to work with them, and then to continue to grow and then drive better solutions for them to have a bigger footprint for them to be successful.

Jackson Ader
Analyst, JPMorgan

Understood. A quick follow-up. One of the presentations today from Cadence at the virtual DAC was on cloud deployments and the increasing demand for cloud deployments. I was just curious, when we see some other software businesses that either are transitioning from on-premise to the cloud or have multiple offerings or multiple deployments of on-premise and cloud deployments, there's a pretty significant uplift in terms of revenue from customers that have cloud deployments versus on-premise. John or Lip-Bu, I was just curious, do you see a similar uplift in revenue associated with cloud deployments relative to on-premise?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, I can start first, and then John can fill in more. Clearly, the cloud solution for EDA to the customer are very important. We want to provide the flexibility from the different range of use model, either the customer manage or Cadence manage. You're using the cloud for the software and even include the hardware platform, and that's so that we provide them a compelling productivity and a scalability benefit. At the end of the day, we really want to drive the productivity and performance. If you have unlimited server, by theory, you should really drive the performance better and also more cost-effective for the customer. We want to create the flexibility for them to do that.

We're delighted, we highlight the key point of collaboration with TSMC, Microsoft to have the cloud for the sign-off tool, Tempus and Quantus, using our CloudBurst, give them the flexibility, they can optimize the throughput and the cost. I think that is the way to go. I think we're going to be very cautiously moving towards the cloud, especially the new product, like the System Analysis tool we develop as a cloud native. It would be much easier, customer can see the benefit using the cloud. For the old EDA tools, we kind of tool by tool, try to move it into optimizing the cloud and stating so far we are making great progress. We highlight that it's over 125 customers adopted our cloud solution. That is increasing. We are delighted at that.

Jackson Ader
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jason Celino from KeyBanc.

Jason Celino
Analyst, KeyBanc

Hey, everyone. Thanks for fitting me in. Just one from me. Most of the reference customers that you've announced for Clarity have been semiconductor and companies and other electronics ecosystem companies. Today, you kind of talked about a new hyperscaler win. One, was this hyperscale customer already a customer and they expanded? Also, if you think about with some of the expansions, are they adding the Celsius product, or are they expanding that through their requirements?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Good question. I think clearly this is a new product for us, Clarity. Many of the new customer we highlight are new to us in the way that we don't have that business before. We're delighted to highlight the hyperscale market-shaping hyperscale for the Clarity and the System Analysis for the Celsius. We are delighted we have 125 engagements, multiple new wins. I think most important, our customers see the benefit and using our performance up to 10 times better than incumbents. I think the most important thing to highlight is the expansions at the existing customers, that is a validation of what tool is really good. They use it, and then they like it, they buy more. That is the good validation of a good product.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, Jason, for Clarity specifically, I think in relation to your question, one of our new customers for Clarity this quarter included a market-shaping hyperscaler. It's not a new hyperscaler for us, but new for Clarity for us.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Okay.

Jason Celino
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay. One quick follow-up. Was this hyperscale customer using it to supplement their simulation processes, or more of adopting it for kind of all their needs on the electromagnetic side?

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, I think that one, again, is existing customer, but I think it just continued to expand some of the product usage.

Jason Celino
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay, great. Thanks. Appreciate the time.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Thanks.

Operator

Our final question comes from Adam Gonzalez from Bank of America.

Adam Gonzalez
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi, guys. Congrats on the solid results. Thanks for squeezing me in. On the collection issue that you are experiencing with some of your smaller customers, is this concentrated at customers that have a particular end market or application exposure, or is it more broad-based?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

It's more broad-based, Adam. Yeah, it's broad-based, not just across the customer base, but across the globe. The thing that's consistent is that it's typically smaller value orders and smaller value customers. What we're trying to do there is that we continue to provide services to those customers, even though in some cases, I don't think we'll get paid. What we've done is we've paused revenue on about $70 million of bookings. It's likely that we won't get paid, so there won't be a P&L impact because we're not taking the revenue. We'll continue to help those customers for as long as we can. Hopefully that we won't lose good companies as part of this pandemic.

Adam Gonzalez
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. My second question, apologies if this was asked before, the connection cut off for me in the middle of the call. The implied second half revenue guidance, the split between Q3 and Q4, it seems to be heavily favored towards Q4. Is that really just the extra week in the fiscal year that's driving that?

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Yeah, the extra week is a big part of that. Also, of course, I'm trying to estimate learning from Q2, what do we expect to fall or what would we expect to record in Q3 versus Q4? That's why I get a slightly wider range for Q3. We went with $630-$650. If we see an experience similar to Q2, where there was a shift of some revenue from Q3 into Q2, if we see that again, there may be a shift from Q4 into Q3, which means we'll be up at the higher end of that range. I don't have any doubt about the remainder of the year, really. It's just what falls into Q3 versus Q4. It's our best guess right now based on the experience of Q2.

Adam Gonzalez
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Helpful. Thanks so much.

John Wall
SVP and CFO, Cadence Design Systems

Okay.

Operator

I will now turn the call back to Lip-Bu Tan for closing remarks.

Lip-Bu Tan
CEO, Cadence Design Systems

Thank you all for joining us this afternoon. Our intelligent system design strategy is playing out very nicely as we benefit from new opportunities in design excellence, system innovation, and pervasive intelligence, and an expanded total addressable market. I'm very impressed and proud of the dedication and commitment shown by our employees, continue innovating and delighting our customers, especially during these uncertain times. I'm convinced that we will collectively come out of this unfortunate situation stronger as a company, as a community. Lastly, on behalf of all our employees and the board of directors, we want to give our heartfelt thanks to extremely brave and courageous healthcare workers and other on the front lines, as they continue to work tirelessly to fight this pandemic. Thank you all for joining us this afternoon.

Operator

Thank you for participating in today's Cadence second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.