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Earnings Call: Q3 2019

Nov 4, 2019

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Clarus Corporation's financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2019. Joining us today are Clarus Corporation's President, John Walbrecht, the Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Aaron Kuehne, and the company's External Director of Investor Relations, Cody Slach. Following their remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. Before we go further, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Slach as he reads the company's safe harbor statement within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, that provides important cautions regarding forward-looking statements. Cody, please go ahead.

Cody Slach
External Director of Investor Relations, Clarus Corporation

Thanks, Paul. Please note that during this call, the company may use words such as appears, anticipates, believes, plans, expects, intends, future, and similar expressions which constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are made based on the company's expectations and beliefs concerning future events impacting the company, and therefore involve a number of risks and uncertainties. The company cautions you that forward-looking statements are not guarantees and that actual results could differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements.

Potential risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results of operations or financial condition of the company to differ materially from those expressed or implied by forward-looking statements used in this call include, but are not limited to, the overall level of consumer demand on the company's products, general economic conditions and other factors affecting consumer confidence, preferences, and behavior, disruption and volatility in the global currency, capital, and credit markets, the financial strength of the company's customers, the company's ability to implement its business strategy, the ability of the company to execute and integrate acquisitions, the company's exposure to product liability or warranty claims and other loss contingencies, the stability of the company's manufacturing facilities and suppliers, changes in governmental regulation, legislation, or public opinion relating to the manufacture and sale of bullets and ammunition by our Sierra segment, and the possession and use of firearms and ammunition by our customers.

The company's ability to protect patents, trademarks, and other intellectual property rights, any breaches of or interruptions in our information systems, fluctuations in the price, availability, and quality of raw materials and contracted products, as well as foreign currency fluctuations, the company's ability to utilize its net operating loss carryforwards, changes in tax laws and liabilities, tariffs, legal, regulatory, political, and economic risks, and the company's ability to declare a dividend. More information on potential factors that could affect the company's financial results is included from time to time in the company's public reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and current reports on Form 8-K. All forward-looking statements included in this call are based upon information available to the company as of the date of this call and speak only as of the date hereof.

The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. I'd like to remind everyone the call will be available for replay through November 18th, starting at 8:00 P.M. Eastern tonight. A webcast replay will also be available via the link provided in today's press release, as well as on the company's website at claruscorp.com. Any redistribution, retransmission, or rebroadcast of this call in any way without the express written consent of Clarus is strictly prohibited. Now I would like to turn the call over to the President of Clarus, John Walbrecht. John?

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Thank you, Cody. Good afternoon, everyone. It's a pleasure to be joining you. Our third quarter continued to be driven by the momentum in our Black Diamond brand, with sales up 14% and adjusted EBITDA increasing 13%. On a year-to-date basis, our Black Diamond brand sales have grown 13%, while adjusted EBITDA is up 43%. We believe this continues to demonstrate that our innovate and accelerate growth strategy, accompanied by strong financial discipline and operational focus, provides for substantial value creation and a playbook that we can replicate with other super fan brands. We experienced growth in every geography, every sales channel, and every category. This was led by 61% growth in ski on strong demand across our backcountry portfolio of products, like our new JetForce 2.0, as well as beacons and snowpacks.

As we continue to refine our focus on the activity-based consumer, we see multiple avenues for growth. One of them is backcountry, where we see increasing participation and a consumer appreciation for innovation performance alongside snow safety. Apparel also continues to be a meaningful contributor to our growth, up 23% in the third quarter, driven by men's and women's sportswear, technical outerwear, and logo wear. Apparel remains one of our fastest growing categories, and we believe there is a significant runway for continued long-term growth. Much so that we continue to believe that we can become a $100 million sales opportunity over time. Signifying our commitment to long-term growth in this business, we just appointed Steve McMahon as General Manager of Apparel and Footwear.

His past experiences include leading product and merchandising at Adidas, Nike, Under Armour, Skullcandy, and Merrell. Steve is an avid skier, has a passion for the outdoors, and a love of building innovative and differentiated product, and we are thrilled to have him on our team. Our Climb business was up 7% due to growth in core categories such as carabiners, harnesses, bouldering, and accessories, supported by continued positive overall trends and popularity of the sport. Additionally, one of our fastest-growing product category segments within Climb is footwear, which continues to gain traction with existing customers and is bringing new consumers into the brand. Going forward, we also believe there is a large market share opportunity in the footwear space that we can capitalize on through performance-based innovation, focused execution, and product extensions.

We have quickly ascended to the number three player in the rock shoe market, and we have our sights set on an overall footwear initiative also being a $100 million business one day. In our Mountain business, we grew sales by 6% due to market share gains in headlamps, gloves, packs, and tents. Our teams continue to design and develop award-winning products within the Mountain business, providing retailers and consumers with additional touchpoints to the brand. Our commitment to product innovation, new product introductions, and an accelerated go-to-market strategy are producing these overall continued strong results at the Black Diamond brand. As expected, bullets and ammunition market softness remained, impacted our Sierra brand during the quarter with sales down 24%. The cyclicality of this market was a factor we considered when underwriting this acquisition, and despite the current environment, we believe the brand is still outperforming the competition.

This is due to Sierra's diversified customer base of retailers, distributors, and OEM partners, which is further enhanced by a 250+ bullet SKU offering. Due to Sierra's premium products, our margins haven't been jeopardized, which has allowed us to continue our innovate and accelerate playbook regardless of the market dynamics. This includes further strengthening the brand's market positioning by investing in product innovations, sales and marketing, and foregoing new long-term revenue opportunities like our launch into ammunition. Irrespective of what we believe to be the short-lived market headwinds, Sierra still meaningfully contributes to our overall profitability and free cash flow, and we look forward to various opportunities that we believe will once again re-accelerate the brand's sales growth in the near term. Now on to some regional sales comments for the third quarter.

Sales domestically were up 10%, while the category expansion I just mentioned helped drive these results, we also continue to experience strong growth within our key accounts. Our direct business also performed well with higher levels of online traffic and higher foot traffic in-store. We continue to focus our D2C efforts on building awareness for the brand, supporting wholesale in our key markets, and creating an elevated consumer experience focused on performance, storytelling, consumer engagement, our athletes, education, and in merchandising of the complete offering. Turning to our international regions, sales were up 6% due to strength in our BD European operations and our Asia Pacific market, specifically our focus on key markets like Germany, France, Austria, Scandinavia, as well as Japan, Korea, and Australia. This focus is particularly critical as we work to enhance brand awareness ahead of the upcoming 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo.

As we've mentioned, it will be the first time that climbing has been an event in the Summer Olympics, and given our leading market share in this sport, we are planning to maximize the brand exposure we expect to receive from the various events. The third quarter was also faced with headwinds brought on by escalating trade wars and the strengthening of the U.S. dollar. While the proactive steps we laid out in early August were expected to minimize the tariffs announced at that time, the impact of additional assessments since then will exceed our mitigation efforts. Aaron will walk you through this in more detail momentarily. We view these headwinds as transitionary, and most importantly, we believe our brands are better positioned for growth than they have ever been.

Our commitment to innovation is fueling new and more disruptive products that are being well-received by our retail partners and well-recognized by trade publications. In fact, BD has garnered 2.8 billion brand impressions year to date, a 9% lift compared to the same period last year. We have earned 66 product awards so far in 2019 and are on track to outpace our 2018 product award total of 72. Here are a few notable call-outs. Outside Buyer's Guide featured nine BD products, with JetForce Pro named the best airbag and the Boundary Line Mapped Jacket named the best insulated shell. The print issue of Popular Mechanics named our Icon Headlamp Editor's Choice, while the Spot Lite received recognition as the best value option.

We won 2019 Gear of the Year for our Deploy Shell in Men's Journal. SKI Magazine Editors Choice recognized our tour glove. Condé Nast Self Magazine recognized our Distance 15 Backpack in their Self 2019 Fitness Awards. We don't often make it into mainstream outlets from Condé Nast, let alone inside leading women's websites. We're pleased to receive this recognition. Irrespective of the awards, we believe the continued focus of our brand will ultimately drive both long-term growth and profitability, as well as shareholder value creation. Speaking of driving shareholder value, as we've discussed on the last couple of calls, the strength we have built across our brand portfolio, which has already driven significant value creation, is being supported by a strategic and disciplined capital allocation policy.

Our results, along with expanded flexibility and capacity under our new cash flow credit facility, provides us the liquidity to opportunistically evaluate acquisitions of additional super fan brands, adequately fund our quarterly dividend, and potentially repurchase our common stock. During the quarter, we continued to be opportunistic in repurchasing our own shares and remain well-positioned to explore other measures to drive shareholder value, given $75 million untapped of our $100 million cash flow credit facility. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Aaron to walk through our Q3 results in more details. Afterwards, I will return to discuss some of the initiatives we believe will support our long-term success. Aaron?

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

Thank you, John, good afternoon, everyone. For the third quarter of 2019, sales increased 8% to $60.2 million, compared to $55.7 million in the same year-ago quarter. On a constant currency basis, sales were up 10%. This was driven by 14% growth in Black Diamond, which saw strong performance across all categories, geographies, and channels. This was offset by a 24% decline in Sierra, which was comparing to a third quarter last year that experienced 35% year-over-year growth. The decrease was due to continued headwinds in the bullet and ammunition marketplace, which were felt most prominently in our domestic OEM and international green box businesses. In the domestic market, military and law enforcement orders have been soft, while our international green box business has been impacted by lower demand in the African and Australian markets.

Consolidated gross margin was 34.1%, compared to 35.7% in the year ago quarter. The decline was primarily due to foreign exchange headwinds from the strengthening U.S. dollar, the impact from recent tariffs, as well as channel and product mix. Foreign exchange headwinds reduced year-over-year gross margin by approximately 80 basis points in the third quarter of 2019, and the impact from tariffs was a 60 basis point headwind. Overall, our sales and gross profit in the third quarter were negatively impacted by unfavorable foreign currency changes on a transactional basis by $0.8 million. The primary cost of our inventory is denominated in U.S. dollars, while 29% of our global sales are denominated in foreign currencies, primarily the euro, Canadian dollar, Norwegian kroner, and Swiss franc. We attempt to manage our foreign currency risk on a continuous basis through natural hedges and foreign currency hedge contracts.

These hedges will never be a perfect offset to the actual currency movements, especially with the currency volatility we've recently experienced. In our reported sales and gross profit, our hedges offset approximately $0.3 million of foreign currency exposure in the third quarter. As a result of the strengthening dollar during the third quarter, we now expect foreign currency to have a negative impact of approximately $2.5 million, up from $2.3 million prior, on sales and gross profit in 2019 when compared to 2018. At Sierra, approximately 50%- 65% of our product costs consist of materials such as copper and lead. We seek to actively manage the impact that commodity costs have on our business, specifically on gross margins, with our vendor partners. We believe that we have a sound process in place that enables us to mitigate this risk for a period of six to nine months out.

Another point on gross margin, specifically surrounding the current trade war. While we have been effective at prior mitigation efforts, we believe we will be unable to absorb the impact from incremental tariffs. We now expect cost of goods sold in 2019 will be impacted by an estimated $1.2 million, up from $600,000 prior, as a result of products defined in List 4A that went effective September 1st. List 4A impacts BD items such as apparel, shoes, tents, and helmets. List 4B, which is expected to go into effect December 15, 2019, impacts BD items such as headlamps and lanterns. We have taken this into consideration in our updated outlook, which I will address shortly. All in, tariff escalations, as well as the unfavorable movement in foreign currency, impacted our third quarter adjusted EBITDA by $1.1 million.

I would like to reiterate the proactive measures we are taking to reduce as much of the negative tariff impact as possible. We are focused on four primary mitigating activities. First is re-costing. We have been working with our vendors to renegotiate costing to offset some of the impacts. Second is resourcing. We're working with our diversified supply chains and coming up with different sources for the product coming out of China. Third is re-pricing. We're working with our retailers to pass along some of the costs. Given our pace of recent product innovation, however, these conversations are a natural progression, and we believe we'll have a positive outcome. Finally, we are optimizing logistics to bypass the U.S. on international shipments. Selling, general, and administrative expenses in the third quarter were $16.4 million, compared to $15.8 million in the year-ago quarter.

The increase was attributable to our continued investment in Black Diamond brand-related activities of research and development, and direct-to-consumer. As a percentage of sales, selling, general, and administrative costs were 27.3% compared to 28.3%, a decrease of 100 basis points, demonstrating our ability to effectively scale our operations. Net income in the third quarter was $3.5 million, or $0.11 per diluted share, compared to $4.1 million or $0.14 per diluted share in the year-ago quarter. The decline was primarily due to lower sales from Sierra, which carry higher operating margins than our Black Diamond brand, and foreign exchange and tariff headwinds. Net income in the third quarter of 2019 included $2.5 million of non-cash charges, compared to $2.8 million of non-cash charges, and $100,000 in transaction costs and restructuring costs in the third quarter of 2018.

Adjusted net income, which excludes non-cash items as well as transaction and restructuring costs, was $6 million or $0.19 per diluted share, compared to $7 million or $0.23 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2018. Adjusted EBITDA was $6.8 million, compared to $7.1 million in the year-ago quarter. As a percentage of sales, adjusted EBITDA was 11.2% compared to 12.7% in the third quarter of 2018. Net cash provided by operating activities for the nine months ended September 30th, 2019 was $5.6 million, compared to $7.6 million in the same year-ago period. Capital expenditures for the nine months ended September 30th, 2019 were $2.8 million, compared to $1.8 million in the same year-ago period. A little more commentary on CapEx.

As communicated at the beginning of the year, the increased capital expenditures incorporate additional investments in our ability to create better consumer experiences, innovate and launch new products at a faster rate, increase production capacity, and to solidify systems for greater insights and scalability. We continue to employ a buy versus build approach, focusing on designing and building the best product for our consumers and increasing gross margins along the way. This requires the leveraging of our ever-improving supply chains, implementing continuous improvement programs, and vertically integrating certain activities as appropriate. Free cash flow, defined as net cash provided by operating activities less capital expenditures for the nine months ended September 30th, 2019 was $2.8 million, compared to $5.8 million in the same year-ago period.

From an inventory perspective, we finished Q3 2019 with $73.5 million of inventory, compared to $64.9 million as of December 31, 2018, and $60.8 million in the year-ago quarter. The increase in inventory is primarily driven by increases within the Black Diamond brand, which we expect to decrease substantially as we head into year-end and the first quarter of 2020. More specifically, the increase has been driven by a couple of different factors. First, increased inventory levels associated with the transition of certain in-house manufacturing activities to OEM partners. Second, the investment in key product initiatives such as footwear. Three, ramping up our inventory levels of key product categories at the beginning of each season to ensure higher levels of fulfillment of pre-season orders and the ability to provide higher levels of replenishment.

On the Sierra side, we've continued to be opportunistic in managing our cost of goods sold and exposure to certain commodities by advanced purchases of copper and lead. At September 30th, 2019, cash and cash equivalents totaled $1.9 million, compared to $2.5 million at December 31, 2018. From a capital allocation perspective, during the third quarter, we repurchased 243,873 shares of our common stock for approximately $2.7 million, or $10.92 per share, leaving approximately $10.8 million remaining on our $30 million share repurchase program. We continue to pay a quarterly dividend. At September 30, 2019, total debt was $24.9 million, compared to $22.1 million at December 31, 2018. Switching gears to our updated financial outlook for 2019. We are lowering parts of our forecast due to the continued headwinds facing the bullet and ammunition market, the negative impacts from the recent strengthening U.S. dollar, and escalating tariffs.

As such, we now anticipate sales to grow approximately 7% to $228 million versus 2018. Within this new sales level, however, is the continued expectation for Black Diamond to increase low double digits as the brand continues to perform extremely well across all categories, channels, and regions. This is a testament to the team's dedication to our innovate and accelerate strategy, as well as our compelling core offering and strong consumer following, which has driven balanced growth. However, we now expect sales for Sierra to decline in double digits in 2019 due to market headwinds we assume will continue for the remainder of the year, more than offsetting new growth avenues like ammo, which is growing nicely but relatively small.

Given the divergence in both brands' growth trajectory, especially the positive momentum at Black Diamond, it is important to call out that while Sierra still generates strong relative profits at 13% of our total sales, that will become less of a driver to our consolidated results going forward. We now expect adjusted EBITDA to increase 6% to approximately $22 million in 2019. This outlook still includes the appropriate amount of investment into our brands to drive awareness and product innovation, and we believe continues to be a testament to the leverage we can drive throughout the organization. Despite lower sales and EBITDA expectations, we still expect to generate free cash flow from operations of approximately $10 million after approximately $4.5 million in capital expenditures.

As a reminder, our common stock continues to be subject to a rights agreement that is intended to limit the number of 5% or more owners, and therefore reduce the risk of a possible change of ownership to maximize the value of our NOLs. Any such change of ownership under these rules would impair our existing and significant NOLs for federal income tax purposes. As of September 30th, 2019, we estimate that we have available NOL carryforwards for U.S. federal income tax purposes of approximately $141 million. This concludes my prepared remarks. I'll turn the call back over to John.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Thanks, Aaron. Now that we've highlighted our results, I'd like to transition to our upcoming product introductions. First, I'd like to highlight a strategic announcement we made at the end of the last quarter. In September, we announced the creation of the Performance Sports Division to accelerate the development of sports-enhancing products like skincare, supplements, nutrition, and other personal health products for our performance-driven athletes. This newly created division is a strategic focus we've made clear with the acquisition of SKINourishment and the hiring of Taylor West to lead it, reinforces our intentions to compete in skincare and other personal health-related categories. Under this new division, we will seek to develop other skincare products such as sunscreen, as well as sport-enhancing supplements, nutrition, and other products using natural, organic, or alternative ingredients.

We believe we're uniquely capable to do so given our global brand ambassador team and discipline, our commitment to innovation, and a strong focus on sales and marketing. In Taylor, we are confident we have the right professional to lead the new division. He brings to Clarus over a decade of consumer brand and product marketing experience in various management roles. Most recently, he served as the Vice President of Marketing and eCommerce for KT Tape, where he led several strategic pivots across the company's digital media channels, resulting in significant sales growth for the company's eCommerce site and Amazon presence. Prior to that, he was the VP of Marketing for a premium breakfast food maker, Kodiak Cakes, and also previously served in multiple senior marketing roles for various brands at General Mills.

Beyond this important hire, we are looking on various initiatives to build long-term businesses that are accretive for our shareholders and look forward to discussing further updates on our year-end calls. On to a product discussion for Black Diamond in the upcoming fall 2019 and spring 2020 seasons. For both seasons, we have an innovation and comprehensive suite of new product offerings that have already garnered significant positive response. For fall 2019, we expect to have over 150 new products slated for launch. Our new product introductions will encompass footwear, apparel, and headlamps, trekking poles, and packs. I'm particularly encouraged with our fall apparel line with styles like the Deploy Jacket, the Rhythm Wool Tee, the base layer program, Stretch Rainwear, the Approach Down Jacket, the Vision Down Jacket, and several others.

Within our ski category, backcountry skiing and snow safety continues to be a significant emphasis with the expansion of the most innovative collection of JetForce packs to date, featuring the JetForce Pro, the Tour, and the Ultralight. These offerings will be alongside an expanded suite of beacons, gloves, ultralight skis, bindings, and new snow outerwear program. This fall offering is a culmination of the innovate and accelerate strategy we've been implementing over the past two years. Due to the length of the product development cycle, this is the first season where from start to finish, we have one consistent strategy, starting with the line plan to the catalog, to the trade show events, and finally to our sell-in to our retail partners. Let's discuss spring 2020, where we expect to have an additional 125 products launching. Our new product launches will cover climb, mountain, and apparel.

Within climb, we are expanding our performance footwear offering to include both performance as well as lifestyle Approach shoes. We'll expect this to continue the strong momentum we have already generated with our entrance into footwear almost two years ago. We expect to initially launch the Approach line with one of our national accounts in the fall to test the market. Then we expect the launch globally for Spring 2020. This will be combined with new carabiners, the new Z4 Cams, the Vision Helmet, award-winning airNET Harness, rock shoes, and bouldering accessories. In our mountain category, we plan to introduce a complete collection of rechargeable lights, new trekking poles, and expanded collection of day packs.

Within apparel, the focus of Spring 2020 will be on both alpine and trail running categories, with launches of the new Highline Jacket, Swift Pant, Rhythm shirt and long sleeve, and the new Distance Running Short and Deploy Jacket. In climbing, we have expanded our stretch denim program with the new Crag Denim, adding to the already successful Forge Denim and creating a unique Denim story made only for the core climbing consumers. Supporting these product launches will be a marketing campaign focused on accelerating in-store support and consumer engagement via our athletes, events, and a more robust digital presence. We also expect to add additional retail locations in certain key markets, elevating the awareness and demand for our brand in a more consumer-centric manner and allowing us to grow our outdoor community and be the provider of equipment, knowledge, and experience. Now turning to Sierra.

Despite another decline in sales in the third quarter, we remain intently focused on driving efficiencies in the go-to-market process and continue to innovate and accelerate across all product offerings. Our expansion into the ammo category is progressing nicely, and our offering has been extremely well-received from both consumers and our retail partners. To date, we have launched just eight cartridges out of the roughly 250 specialty bullets we currently offer at Sierra and expect to ramp up with several more in the coming months. These introductions, combined with creating awareness and driving demand for our ammunition offerings, but this doesn't happen overnight. We are working closely with our key partners in our product development and marketing efforts to drive awareness and are encouraged by the results so far.

In fact, we will be highlighted with one of the new key strategic partners on the cover of a major publication over the coming weeks, bringing higher levels of awareness to the brand and the new performance of our ammunition products. Lastly, we have developed a strong partnership with our domestic retailers and see an opportunity to replicate this internationally. Specifically, we have near-term opportunities in Europe and Australia, as well as are already developing key relationships to expand distribution and drive increased awareness. While market dislocations in the bullet and ammunition market happen, I think it is important to remind our investors why we purchased Sierra. First, they are the leading sport bullet manufacturing with a 70-plus-year history. They make the most accurate bullets in the world, period. This distinction has made them a super fan brand we seek in every acquisition.

Sierra was accretive the day we made the acquisition. The business generates approximately 40% gross margins and generates free cash flow conversions of roughly 95% given its limited ongoing CapEx requirements. It meaningfully drives our margins and our profits higher over the long term. In fact, since acquiring the business, it has already returned nearly $20 million in cash and has quite significant long-term growth opportunities like ammunition, which I just walked through. For some perspective, if just 10% of Sierra's bullets were sold as ammunition, Sierra revenue would double and produce an adjusted EBITDA of what we estimate to be $20 million. Other avenues which remain untapped or are at the early stages of development include enhanced marketing and digital capabilities, improved distribution, and forging new customer accounts. We are excited by the runway for growth and ahead of us and for the Sierra brand in total.

It is important to reinforce that our primary focus continues to be on that of organic growth and increased profitability of our existing brands, as we believe these provide the highest levels of return on invested capital. With that being said, a main component of our capital allocation strategy is opportunistically acquiring super fan brands. Our opportunistic approach to M&A continues to be supported with a steady pipeline of opportunities, whether they be a tuck-in to our already existing portfolio or another leg to our consumer-facing activities. As a reminder, we define super fan brands as brands with leading product market share and significant awareness amongst the core consumer. These brands typically have extensive growth opportunities through market share gains, increasing brand awareness outside the core consumer, and through accessing our distribution and supply chain platform.

We are constantly looking at brands that will fit in well with our current portfolio. Supporting our ability to make strategic acquisitions are the profitability and cash flow improvements our current portfolio has produced and are expected to continue to drive in the future, as well as the flexibility and capacity under our existing cash flow credit facility. Before getting to Q&A, I'd like to reiterate how encouraged I am by Black Diamond's upcoming fall and winter 2019 product offerings. As I said, this will be the first full season when our strategy is fully embedded and driving each vertical of our go-to-market strategy. The entire team has been working hard over the last couple of years, the initial results and the reception to the expanded offerings has been very positive.

With that, I'd now like to turn the time back over to our operator for Q&A before my closing remarks. Operator?

Operator

Thank you, sir. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound or hash key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question will come from Randal Konik of Jefferies. Please proceed.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

Thanks a lot. Good evening, guys, or good afternoon. Really helpful call there, [Script]. A couple questions. First, I guess a lot of excitement around the Olympics next year. You gave us some good perspective on the almost free brand advertising you get with your athletes. Are you thinking about anything unique or different to exploit or take advantage of the excitement around the sport entering the Olympics next year? Just kind of interested on your strategy there as we approach next year. That is my first question. Thanks.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Yeah, Randy, this is John. 100%. I want to be careful not give away all my ideas and thoughts to the world, but leave it to say, everybody knows who Apolo Ohno is, though most people don't know anything about short track skate. We believe that the Olympics will do two things that will benefit BD. One, many of our athletes will go from unheard of to household names. Already, obviously between athletes like Adam Ondra, as well as our climbing athletes in Korea, Japan, other markets, we're seeing lots of success. Secondly, I think it'll give a great launching off point, as it did for Spyder in 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake Games, for the brand itself to get recognition on a global stage.

Obviously, how we grassroots the marketing around the events, our athletes engage in the actual activity themselves, we will find ways to authentically build brand awareness up to, during, and after the Olympics. The real kicker comes after the Olympics when people are more aware of the climbing sport and more excited about it and the brands associated with it, and that's where we'll see the response from it.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

Really helpful. I guess following up on that, to think more medium long term here, I guess this is more for Aaron, then. You gave some perspective on things you're working on from a systems perspective, and strategies around to continue to improve your both fulfillment and replenishment. If we can, we see the trajectory of BD, extremely exciting and positive. Obviously, demand is going to continue to accelerate here. What are more specifics around the systems or strategies you're taking on to kind of improve those fulfillment metrics and replenishment metrics going forward?

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

More from a system standpoint or more from the tactics, one of the things that we're extremely pleased by is that we were able to upgrade our North American ERP system this summer without any hiccups and coming well below budget. Huge kudos to that team, and also just the dedication that we have within the organization as it relates to always looking for ways to find new ways and better ways of doing business. One of the things that we've also implemented are certain continuous improvement initiatives throughout the organization, more focused around the way that we commercialize our product, being quicker to market, seeing enhanced gross margins coming from each new product introduction or innovation. Also working very closely with our key strategic vendors or supply chain partners as it relates to how we bring inventory in and where.

We're also looking at the different logistic regions that we currently operate. We have a team that's dedicated to that and looking at new ways or fresher ways to be able to increase the speed to market, primarily focused on the European and the international business that we have, where a lot of the inventory currently comes in through different channels, primarily that of our Salt Lake City warehouse, and then also through a 3PL in Asia. We're looking at different ways of how we can just increase the overall effectiveness and speed of that process.

It really comes down to the way that we think about the line plans, the commercialization process, but also how we interact with our supply chains to, once again, increase the speed and the success, and performance of our vendors, but also the way that we're able to address the various needs from a gross margin perspective and also overall fulfillment. That's where you've also seen the increase in the inventory levels at the beginning of each season.

This is something that we started to pick up on a while back and have been pivoting towards of bringing in a little bit more inventory at the beginning of each season, using our balance sheet to be able to support that, and then bleed it off during the course of the season, we found that that provides us with higher levels of success rates as it relates to fulfillment and also an enhanced ability to chase replenishment or ASAP orders.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

That's really helpful. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it.

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

You bet.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Thank you, Randy.

Operator

The next question is from Dave King of ROTH Capital. Please proceed.

Thanks. Afternoon, guys.

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

Afternoon .

Dave King
Analyst, Roth Capital

Hey, I guess first on the guidance, would you say, Aaron, what you're now expecting from a gross margin perspective, and then how much the reduction there is driven by Sierra versus some of the tariff and FX pressures you talked about? I guess as a follow-up to that, given all that we know today about Sierra, FX, tariffs, and then the commodity costs you alluded to, how should we be thinking initially, at least, about next year's overall gross margins? Thanks.

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

You bet. As you know, we typically guide just to revenue and EBITDA levels. We are seeing some continued pressure on the gross margin piece associated with FX and with tariffs. However, when we think about the updated guidance provided, it is primarily or solely driven by the softness that we're seeing at the Sierra business. As communicated during our prepared remarks, the Black Diamond business continues to perform extremely well. It's still on track to hit its targets for the year, despite some of these headwinds. It's just that with the addition of these headwinds, it's just too much to offset the Sierra softness that we're currently seeing. That's why we're coming out with the updated outlook. As we think towards 2020, we'll provide greater insights as we provide our Q4 earnings and our outlook for 2020.

Tariffs is a factor that we're continuing to work through. Our goal is to always see improvements within the gross margin line item. We believe that we have different initiatives across the board that enable us to see or realize those types of improvements. This is just adding another dynamic or another variable that we're currently working through, and extremely proud with the team of how we've been able to progress and make certain improvements along the way. It still continues to be a pretty good headwind that is currently offsetting some of the improvements that we had scheduled for 2020, primarily associated with the transitioning of our manufacturing activities from Salt Lake to an OEM partner.

Dave King
Analyst, Roth Capital

Okay.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Obviously, Dave, our view is that these are temporary and that you can't react fast enough, though in time, long term, you can react, as we said in the prepared remarks, either by moving your facilities to other locations to elude the tariff, or your mix or the opportunity of price increases or you name it. Just made for a headwind in 2019. It may spill over a little into 2020, but we are rapidly doing everything necessary to transition this away from this cause.

Dave King
Analyst, Roth Capital

Understood. Okay. That helps. Maybe digging into Sierra a bit, I think you guys talked a little bit about what's happening from an end market perspective. I think you talked about domestic military and international consumers driving some of the weakness. I think one of the OEMs, I feel like, just talked about a vastly improving commercial business or at least improving off of where things had been. You're starting to hear more and more about these military law enforcement wins for some of these OEMs. Are you guys seeing any of that? Are there any green shoots, if you will, in terms of the market? Just where do we stand in terms of this sort of gun and then ammo cycle, more importantly? Thanks.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Yeah. I think two things on there. We have always said that this was a very cyclical business, and I think joking with you in the past, I've even said that this year we'll take stomach punches and next year we'll look like geniuses for doing the exact same thing that we've always done. The market is cyclical. It will come back. It has started to come back in rumors, and I say rumors because a lot of our OEM partners have been sitting on inventories. Nobody is all in demand, one for one. They get a request, they then need to build ammo, then they call us for a bullet, and it all happens simultaneously. We always say that this probably has a 30 to 60-day trail, and vice versa.

When it starts to build off of them, we have a 30 to 60-day trail on the back end. We do anticipate that with the politics that we've heard of and all the rhetoric taking place, that not only will you see a demand in law enforcement and military, but we also believe that going into 2020, in the second half of the year, specifically in areas like 223s, 556s, 9 mm, you name it, there will be some stockpiling that will start because of either background checks or just the changes in laws in regards to those weapons. This happens. It happened again in 2011, 2012, 2013. We see this trend. When we bought it in August of 2017, we knew we were on the start of the downtrend of this.

As we said in the prepared remarks, we really believe that Sierra is a super fan brand. Over the last 18 months, sticking with innovation and acceleration has helped us to gain market share, and the tide will come back. Our goal is at that point, making these investments and these accelerations will only be to our benefit. Like I said, 12 months from now, hopefully you'll be calling us geniuses for doing the same thing we're doing today.

Dave King
Analyst, Roth Capital

Okay, sounds good. Thanks for taking my questions and good luck with the rest of the year.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Okay. Thanks, Dave.

Operator

Our next question will come from Jim Duffy of Stifel. Please proceed.

Jim Duffy
Analyst, Stifel

Thanks. Good afternoon, guys. Hope you're doing well. Couple questions on Sierra. I just want to dig in on that some. John, what are the sight lines to a return to growth there? I know you're expecting a bounce next year, in what quarter would you expect to see that? How do you see the cycle playing forward in 2020? Can that last more than a couple of quarters? What's kind of like the underlying run rate of the business thereafter?

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

I think we're always conservative on this, so my view is that this takes a quarter or two to start to ramp back up. Having not owned it previously, I don't know how fast that response is. I can look at the past numbers and see it. I do believe this time that it potentially can be stronger and longer because I don't believe this is going to end in a neutral game when it comes to the change in laws. I don't think this is one thing where there's going to be just rhetoric and move. I think that for the right reasons, there are going to be instilled changes in either background checks, laws, the outlawing of certain weapons or whatever. It'll perpetuate this a little longer.

I don't think we're ever going to have a stalemate where neither side chooses to move and just waits for elections. I think both are going to have to compromise and come together, in which case, I think it actually elongates this model.

Jim Duffy
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Earlier in the call, you outlined a framework for doubling the business. Beyond the cycle, is there a good kind of multi-year revenue objective for this business we should think about?

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

I think the way we've looked at it, like I said, is today, if you look at our trailing results, 2018, we finished the year somewhere around 220 million bullets. If you acquired 10% of that in ammunition, given the price difference between a bullet and a cartridge, that 10% would yield about a doubling of the business with similar EBITDA and margin parameters. After that, I think it's the opportunities to continue to drive forward with ammunition in specific categories of uniqueness that align with the Sierra brand. I think that's the opportunity. Obviously that's, while at the same time, innovating bullets at the same pace that we have done, just innovating bullets and developing ammunition simultaneously.

Jim Duffy
Analyst, Stifel

Understood. Aaron, I wanted to ask on the tariffs a little bit. You'd prior thought $600 million exposure for the year. Would you expect to recapture that in 2020 from mitigation efforts? I know you talked about a total now of $1.2 million tariff expense for 2019. That incremental tariff, what's kind of the right way to think about the run rate equivalent to that number on a 12-month basis?

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

Yeah, you're right. Initially under List 3, it was $600,000. We were feeling good about.

Jim Duffy
Analyst, Stifel

Oh, $600,000. Sorry.

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

Yeah, no problem. We were feeling extremely confident about being able to mitigate at least 75%- 80% of that. It's still a bit too early to get into the details on List 4A and 4B as far as the different mitigation activities that are taking place and where we expect that to be. We do anticipate that we'll be able to offset at least about 30% of the tariff impact or the tariff situation during the course of 2020. I'll frame that up for us in terms of the overall 2020 impact as we get into that window of time. It is something that we're aggressively working through. We feel optimistic that this is truly transitory, and it's just going to take another six to nine months or so to be able to get some things finalized and rightsized in a manner that'll mitigate the negative impacts.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

I think it's important, Jim, that Aaron has set a very aggressive goal to do everything within the team to literally get this down to a zero impact long term. This is not something we're willing to just accept and say it's the new world order, but say, "Hey, it is transitory. We make changes, we shift, refactorize, re-productize, whatever, in order to eliminate these leakages on the business.

Jim Duffy
Analyst, Stifel

Understood. Thank you, guys.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Thank you.

Operator

Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have questions at this time, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. The next question will come from Mark Smith of Lake Street. Please proceed.

Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street

Hi, guys. Another question just on Sierra. Can you give us any additional insight into how that kind of core green box retail business is doing versus the OEM business?

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

I think, well, I can only give it from the perspective of Sierra. I think, like you said, overall, we've seen a dip in the quarter of about 24%, more of that driven by the OEM business, which is highly driven at this point by military and law enforcement, given the partners. In the green box business, our business has been impacted in low single digits, so we've really driven hard at that, which at this point, our view is that we know we're gaining market share in the mix, and we'll continue to do so at the bullet level and then the ammunition level. I think we will track that market relatively closely to determine at what point the consumer's buying behavior changes in that space.

Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street

Okay. We know that it's still small, but can you quantify at all the impact of the ammunition business?

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Well, like I said, it's small. The initiative for us was really targeted only on what really becomes the fourth quarter of 2019 because we launched, as you recall, GameChanger. When we launched it, we launched five calibers initially into delivery for fall, which hunt season for bullets or rifle hunting just kicked off this last week in parts of the country and some still to come. Right now it's just five. By Christmas, we have eight in the works, and soon by SHOT Show, a couple more, so we'll be up to GameChanger at 10, and then we'll be launching Prairie Enemy and the Varmint Ammunition at SHOT Show, as well as some other interventions into other categories.

Like I said, ultimately our goal is to really target on those 80/20 bullets that we think align with the ammunition opportunity, with a goal that at some point it should be 10% or more of our bullets into ammo. We're going to be very distinct about that process because we make the very best bullets in the world, and we can't do anything in that world to jeopardize that positioning.

Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street

Okay. Last one from me. Can you just talk about your appetite for share repurchases and maybe how active you guys have been since the end of the quarter?

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

As communicated, this is the fourth priority of our capital allocation process. We'll continue to be opportunistic with it, but there's no set or defined approach or number that we're looking to do over a certain period of time.

Mark Smith
Analyst, Lake Street

Okay, great. Thank you.

Aaron Kuehne
Chief Administrative Officer and CFO, Clarus Corporation

You bet.

Operator

At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Walbrecht for the closing remarks.

John Walbrecht
President, Clarus Corporation

Thank you. We'd like to thank everyone for listening to today's call, and we look forward to speaking to you when we report our fourth quarter and our full year results. Thanks again for joining us. Goodbye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for your participation.