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Earnings Call: Q1 2019

May 6, 2019

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Cohu, Inc.'s first quarter 2019 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. If anyone should require operator assistance during today's conference, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's presentation, Mr. Richard Yerganian, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please begin.

Richard Yerganian
VP of Investor Relations, Cohu

Thank you, Howard. Good afternoon, and welcome to our conference call to discuss Cohu's first quarter fiscal year 2019 results and second quarter outlook. I'm joined today by our President and CEO, Luis Müller, and our Vice President of Finance and CFO, Jeff Jones. If you need a copy of our earnings release, you may access it from our website at www.cohu.com or by contacting Cohu Investor Relations. There is also a slide presentation accompanying today's call that may be accessed through the webcast link on Cohu's website and is also posted as a PDF in the investor relations section. Replays of this call will be available via the same page after the call concludes. For your information, Cohu will be participating in the following investor conferences: the B.

Riley FBR Annual Investor Conference on May 22nd in Los Angeles, California, Cowen's 47th Annual TMT Conference on May 30th in New York, and Baird's 2019 Global Consumer Technology and Services Conference on June 6th in New York. Now to the safe harbor. During the course of this conference call, we will make forward-looking statements reflecting management's current expectations concerning the company's future business. These statements are based on current information that we've assessed, but which by its nature is subject to rapid and even abrupt changes. We encourage you to review the forward-looking statements section of the slide presentation in the earnings release, as well as Cohu's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the most recently filed Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, and registration statement on Form S-4.

Our comments speak only as of today, May 6th, 2019, and Cohu assumes no obligation to update these statements as a result of developments occurring after this call. Finally, during the call today, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our earnings release and slide presentation for a reconciliation to the most comparable GAAP measures. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Luis Müller, Cohu's President and CEO. Luis?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Thanks, Rich, and good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us. On today's call, I will discuss the current business environment and share an update on the long-term vision for the company and near-term integration synergies. Test cell utilization has bottomed at about 80%, but more importantly, OSAT utilization has started to rise again, reflecting strengthening conditions in mobility. At the same time, several IDMs linked to automotive and industrial markets recorded a slight decline in test cell utilization in the first quarter. At 80%, we expect that customers will look to add capacity once they start to see their internal forecasts turn positive. Market conditions appear to have stabilized in the first quarter. We are forecasting some segments to start improving in Q2 and continuing to the second half of the year. This is particularly true for mobility that has been weak since last fall.

We have received volume handler orders in April for testing application processors. We are expecting new demand for test and inspection of RF devices and test of LCD drivers later this quarter. Additionally, we forecast new tester, handler, and contactor demand in the third and fourth quarter to support a global communications infrastructure project where Cohu's platforms have been qualified to test a new generation of semiconductors. The continued strength in data center, cloud, and AI is reflected in our recurring revenues, as well as orders for PCB test equipment. Now, countering this strength, the consumer IoT, IoV, and optoelectronics, as well as the industrial markets, lost momentum early this year. In the meantime, automotive, that has been Cohu's largest market segment and a major contributor to our growth over the last three years, had an increase in system bookings in the first quarter.

While our customers' forecasts across these end markets are muted in the near term, the fundamentals remain strong for increasing vehicle electrification, growth in automotive ADAS, increasing industrial automation, and moreover, the deployment of 5G communications that will have a significant positive impact in the industry. Near term, much of the 5G-related business will come from building out the infrastructure and communications network over the next three years. We expect opportunities for test and inspection of 5G semiconductors going into mobile devices in 2020. That should ramp into high volume starting in 2021. Using the deployment of the last standard as a reference, we expect 5G communications-related demand to expand for over five years.

More importantly, 5G will extend beyond handsets to the automotive, industrial, consumer, and data center markets by truly enabling autonomous vehicles, robotics, edge computing, a vast proliferation of sensing communication, data processing capabilities, and much more. We expect that this will translate into a significant increase in semiconductor content across the industry. Cohu is planning to be at the forefront of this wave, delivering the entire solution to customers, enabling time to yield and volume production. We are not just a handler, tester, contactor company. We are actually uniquely positioned to deliver best-in-class test and inspection solutions to our customers' challenges. Now, having defined and communicated the consolidated handler roadmap, we are now investing in next-generation platforms that will deliver improved customer value, and when utilized in conjunction with our testers and interface products, a new generation vision capabilities for package inspection.

We're working with multiple customers on refining product specifications and believe these have the potential to add $15 million-$30 million a year of incremental revenue over the midterm that we define as the next 3-5 years. In parallel, we're focused on completing the integration of Cohu and Xcerra contactor manufacturing capabilities over the next 6-9 months, which should deliver meaningful improvement in consolidated gross margins starting in 2020. This business is obviously not immune to the weakness in the automotive and industrial markets, but the impact of an industry-wide slowdown on contactor revenue is typically one-third of the impact on the capital equipment businesses. Offsetting this weakness was the strength of our new high-performance products that are becoming the reference solution for millimeter wave, over-the-air, and high signal performance applications.

We continue to model contactor revenue growth this year, driven by our xWave solution and overall increase in contactor attachment rate with our handler sales. We have the opportunity to grow our contactor business to upwards of $300 million over the long term. The contactor business accounted for 19% of total sales in the first quarter, and is a significant contributor to what we refer to as recurring revenue. Our semiconductor test business represents approximately 20%-25% of consolidated revenue. We're the leader in RF front-end module test and expect to derive substantial benefit from 5G deployment over the next few years. We're in the process of finalizing strategies to grow certain niche market positions into mainstream businesses where we can become successful as a platform solution to our customers.

We expect the successful execution of these plans can generate $50 million-$100 million a year of incremental revenue over the midterm. Our PCB test business had a strong quarter, driven by momentum in the server, networking, and communications markets, consistent with our semiconductor businesses. While closely monitoring market conditions, we're very much focused on the things we can control. Last quarter, we talked about achieving an annual run rate cost synergy of $20 million by end of this year. We made significant progress in this past quarter, finalizing a restructuring plan in April for our Germany operation, which will deliver $10 million a year in cost synergies.

Combining this with the already achieved $9 million announced on the day of the transaction closed, announced plans to consolidate and close operations in California and Malaysia later this year, and going to a direct sales and support model for all semiconductor test products in China and Taiwan, we are now projecting to achieve $40 million in annual run rate cost synergies by the end of 2019. This is a significant acceleration of our original plan, and one that will progressively benefit the P&L as we move through this year. Jeff will share more details on these various cost synergies and how we model the business going forward at different revenue levels. As mentioned, our focus is primarily on things we can control, like accelerating synergy savings and developing best-in-class solutions for test and inspection.

I'm very optimistic about our future because I believe that Cohu is only a couple of quarters away from achieving a substantial transformation of the P&L that will drive increased profitability and cash flow generation. Furthermore, we have already aligned products and roadmaps to position Cohu to benefit from significant trends in 5G and secular expansion in automotive and industrial markets. I would like now to turn the call over to Jeff to review our first quarter results, explain our new business model, and provide second quarter guidance.

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

Okay, thanks, Luis. Today, I'll start by reviewing our Q1 results, which delivered higher than anticipated sales and gross margin due to a better than expected contribution from recurring revenue. We believe the first quarter represents the low point of the cycle, and as Luis indicated, we're gaining confidence for a stronger second half. I'll also review our progress in accelerating our planned synergies from the acquisition of Xcerra and a significant milestone achieved that will have a beneficial impact on our business this year. Next, I'll review our business model for 2020 and beyond, including expected profitability at different revenue levels. Finally, I'll provide our second quarter guidance. Please note that my comments that follow all refer to non-GAAP figures. For GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations and disclosures, please see the accompanying investor presentation. For Q1, the GAAP to non-GAAP adjustments include approximately $3.7 million of stock-based compensation expense.

The GAAP to non-GAAP adjustments, primarily driven by the Xcerra acquisition, include $10 million of purchased intangible amortization expense, $7.3 million of inventory and property plant and equipment step-up costs, and $1.8 million of restructuring costs, including $400,000 of inventory written off to cost of sales. The Q1 2019 net cash impact of these items is approximately $2 million, related primarily to employee severance. On Q1 revenue of $147.8 million, which we expect represents the bottom of this cycle, we generated non-GAAP operating income of $5.8 million, or approximately 4% of sales. After interest expense and the tax provision, Cohu had a non-GAAP EPS loss of $0.03. At roughly $148 million in sales and approximately $3 million of realized synergies in Q1, we generated $9.7 million or 6.6% of adjusted EBITDA.

Cohu delivered approximately $4.7 million of cash from operations during the first quarter, and our cash balance was $160 million at the end of Q1. One customer in data center cloud and AI accounted for 11% of Q1 sales. No other customer accounted for 10% or more of sales in the quarter. Q1 gross margin was 41.5% and higher than our guidance of 40%, due primarily to favorable product mix because of higher recurring revenue. Operating expenses were higher than forecasted, primarily from sales commissions due to a change in customer mix and a loss on the sale of fixed assets in Japan that occurred near the end of Q1. The effective tax rate is not meaningful at pre-tax levels near breakeven. As we've discussed previously, most of Cohu's operations and related profits are generated and taxed outside of the U.S.

Additionally, when the U.S. operation generates losses, as it did in Q1, there is no tax benefit to offset the foreign tax expense because of our deferred tax asset valuation allowance. As a result, in Q1, we recorded tax expense on foreign profits without any benefit from the U.S. loss, driving our small non-GAAP pre-tax profit to an after-tax loss. Now turning to cost synergies and our business model. Since the close of the Xcerra acquisition, we've been aggressively pursuing committed cost synergies. In April, we finalized the plan and began restructuring Xcerra's Rosenheim, Germany operation, essentially pulling forward cost synergies into 2019 ahead of the original target. This restructuring is a major component of the second $20 million synergies we originally anticipated achieving in a three-to-five-year period.

The result is that by the end of this calendar year, we expect to deliver $40 million in annual run rate cost synergies that will favorably impact the business model going into 2020. This annual cost synergy is split approximately $20 million in cost of goods sold and $20 million in operating expense savings. We're now modeling the business at several revenue levels, inclusive of the impact of the $40 million cost synergy that we expect to achieve when exiting this calendar year. As a point of reference, the pro forma 2018 revenue for Cohu, combined with Xcerra, was approximately $778 million or about $194 million per quarter. The business model shows the opportunity for strong profit and cash generation at this revenue level, once all synergy savings are in place.

Our long-term capital allocation strategy continues to be maintain approximately $125 million of cash on the balance sheet to support operations, capital expenditures, and the dividend. Our plan is that cash generated in excess of $125 million will be used to pay down the debt of $357 million and de-lever the company subject to business conditions and the cash required to achieve the synergies and support an eventual business ramp. For the balance of 2019, we're projecting cash payments of approximately $20 million in order to achieve the targeted synergies. Cohu's board of directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.06 per share, payable on July 26, 2019, to shareholders of record on June 14, 2019. For second quarter 2019 guidance, we're expecting sales to be in the range of $150 million-$160 million. Revenue distribution is expected to be 92% semiconductor test and inspection and 8% PCB test.

Gross margin is expected to be approximately 40%. The lower gross margin quarter-over-quarter is due to projected lower margin handler product mix for the mobility market. Operating expenses are expected to be approximately $54 million. The cost synergies of approximately $4 million or about $17 million on an annualized basis are included in the Q2 guidance. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be approximately 7% at the midpoint of guidance. We're projecting the Q2 non-GAAP tax provision to be similar in total to the Q1 non-GAAP amount. For modeling purposes, we expect a normalized effective tax rate of approximately 22% on revenue of $170 million or more and profits in line with the business model. The diluted share count for Q2 is expected to be approximately 41.5 million shares. That concludes our prepared remarks. Now we'll open the call to questions.

Operator

Excuse me. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment at this time, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, simply press the pound key. Again, if you have a question or comment at this time, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. Our first question or comment comes from the line of Tom Diffely from D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Tom Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Yes. Good afternoon. First, a quick question on the accelerated cost reduction program. When you actually went through the process of accelerating that, did that increase the cost to you of doing those reductions?

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

No, they're largely the same, Tom, as we had been forecasting in previous quarters.

Tom Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. I guess along the same lines, when you look at some of the programs that take longer to do, does that mean that the midterm cost reduction is above $40 million now?

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

We're taking a look at that, and we do believe that there are some, I'd say, single-digit million dollar opportunities available beyond the $40 million. For now, as you can imagine, we're focused on ensuring that we achieve the cost synergies by the end of the year. Then we're going to continue to monitor further opportunities over the midterm.

Tom Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. Just to clarify, last quarter you said that there were two facilities you were closing. The Germany plant is the third facility then?

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

That would be the third, yes. The two that I mentioned previously would be Penang, and then we have a facility in California as well.

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

This is Luis. Tom, just to clarify a little bit, in Germany, what we're doing is we're consolidating with the operation that Cohu already had in Germany. We're closing a facility, but we're not closing operations in Germany. We're just consolidating.

Tom Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. That makes sense. Looking at the business trends, it sounds like the mobility is getting a little stronger here. It was a little unclear, were there crosscurrents in the automotive industry? Do you see that clearly recovering at this point as well?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

There has been a bit of an uptick in the first quarter in the automotive orders, I should say. With that said, I think we look at automotive as increasing sort of step-by-step progressively through the year. No, we don't see a hockey stick improvement in automotive.

Tom Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. Finally, when you look at the contactor opportunity, does the acceleration of your cost-cutting do anything, be it positive or negative, to kind of the outlook for the contactor growth?

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

In terms of profitability, yes, Tom, I think you're probably referring to revenue synergies. The cost-cutting won't have an impact on that. We have other strategies in place. We've talked about, on prior calls, increasing the attach rate for the, let's call it the legacy Cohu handler. We're still pursuing those opportunities, and we're still excited about those.

Tom Diffely
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay, great. Well, I look forward to modeling this new slicker model. Appreciate your time.

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

Okay. All right. Thanks, Tom.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Brian Chin from Stifel. Your line is open.

Brian Chin
Analyst, Stifel

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for letting us ask a few questions and congratulations on the hard work to kind of get to this point in terms of the cost model. That's actually my first question, also following up on Tom's questions. Just to kind of rewind here, to make sure that I or we are clear. As of the March earnings call, $20 million annualized savings by the end of this fiscal year. Now you've upgraded that clearly to $40 million. $10 million of that is coming from the AK and the consolidation in Germany. That's the $10 million, and then there's another $10 million. Can you, again, remind us what that additional incremental $10 million is? Also, looking at end-of-2Q, end-of-3Q, where will you be in terms of getting to that $40 million annualized rate in the next few quarters? Thanks.

Jeffrey D. Jones
VP of Finance and CFO, Cohu

All right, Brian. This is Jeff. The additional $10 million that you're asking about in terms of going from up to the $40 million run rate, really comes from gaining further clarity on the synergies that we had talked about previously. Related specifically to closures of the plants in California and Penang, plus the cost savings going from a direct sales model in China and Taiwan. It's more or less an update as we gain more clarity around those synergies that we're seeing an increase in the opportunity. Now, on to the second part of your question. As we progress through the quarter, let's start with Q2, excuse me, progress through the year. I'll start with Q2. We've baked in about $4 million, a little over $4 million of synergies into the Q2 guidance.

That grows to just about $7 million in Q3, and then we're projecting it to grow to $9 million to $9.5 million at the end of Q4. That brings us very close to that 2020 run rate, if you will, of $10 million per quarter.

Brian Chin
Analyst, Stifel

Got it. Okay. Very helpful. Thanks, Jeff. That sort of the sensitivity revenue model that you have in the slides, that's based on not if you hit those revenue levels before the end of the year, that's based once you take full advantage of those cost synergies on a full run rate basis, right?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

That's correct.

Brian Chin
Analyst, Stifel

Okay, great. Also, going back now to the business itself. You expressed increased confidence in terms of second half visibility. I know you outlined some specific programs on your last earnings call, but just kind of curious, in terms of those leading indicators, maybe even leading utilization rates that you look into, can you maybe flesh that out a little bit in terms of what you've seen improve and, even if you can talk about if you want to, on a qualitative booking standpoint, any particular market, any color you can provide would be helpful. Thanks.

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Yeah. The two perspectives here coming from two different angles, Brian. One of them is, if you look at utilization, it is actually ticking up at the OSATs, which essentially indicates an improvement in business, mainly driven by the fabless guys related to mobility. At the same time, we do have projects associated with the mobility market on the tester side that are projected to yield some results starting in third quarter and going into the fourth quarter. We have seen here a ramp in orders for handlers into mobility for the mobility market already in April. We have some activities also associated with 5G infrastructure that are due to ramp in the third quarter.

All of that put together, essentially, mobility or infrastructure for mobility both are showing signs of higher forecast improvement, improving business conditions starting in the third quarter, thus the comments that we made here on the call.

Brian Chin
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Maybe just one last question. I saw the breakdown by end market for the Q1 revenue level. I was a little surprised that automotive and industrial seemed to, if I did the math right, were up sequential in a down sequential quarter. A little surprised by that, although it does sound like you don't expect much bounce up in terms of those markets, at least over the interim. Kind of curious about that. Second part of that is just data center, a little bit more lumpy, kind of lumpy down, it looks like in Q1. Just, could you remind us what goes on the fully consolidated business? What goes into that bucket, and kind of how to think about that segment moving forward?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

I think the first thing I would highlight to you, Brian, is that these are as the table here says systems, so we're not talking about recurring business, right? We do have a substantial recurring business in the data center, cloud, and AI segment. That did remain strong in the first quarter. What we have seen here in the first quarter is really, as I said before, sort of a bit of an uptick in the automotive market, particularly the automotive market. We think the automotive market has prospects to continue to improve throughout the year. It could be a little lumpy, but nevertheless, I think it will continue to climb through the year.

Brian Chin
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. All right. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of David Duley from Steelhead Securities. Your line is open.

David Duley
Analyst, Steelhead Securities

Thanks for taking my question. I'm sorry I signed on a bit late, if I'm repeating questions, I apologize. You mentioned utilization rates uptick. Could you give what the overall utilization rates are at this point?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Hi, Dave. Yes. The overall utilization rate actually went down a point. We were looking at about 81% at the end of the fourth quarter to 80% at the end of the first quarter. With that said, it has increased at the OSATs, and that's much of the tie with the mobility market, and it has proportionally decreased across IDMs.

David Duley
Analyst, Steelhead Securities

Okay. Some of the signs that you might look to that would indicate that things are going to get better in Q2 in the second half. One is an increasing in utilization rates. One is the OSATs starting to come into order, I guess, is what I heard you say. Is there any other signs or indications that you can see about the signs of recovery?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Well, for us, I think it becomes a bit more specific to certain projects that we have in 5G and in mobility, and those projects are due to pick up some speed here in the third quarter. It's more specific than that in our case, Duley.

David Duley
Analyst, Steelhead Securities

Okay. Those programs will pick up in the third and the fourth quarter. If there's an overall industry recovery, you would also see a pickup from that as well.

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Yeah.

David Duley
Analyst, Steelhead Securities

Is there any?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

The overall industry recovery would be very welcome. Right now, we're looking at the utilization rate that we have today. I think it's going to continue to turn the corner towards an improvement, particularly driven by the OSATs. I think the IDMs will start picking up as well, that's just projection, right? Realistically, in our case, we're very much focused on these programs that we have been qualified for and we expect to ramp in the third quarter.

David Duley
Analyst, Steelhead Securities

Okay. Final thing from me is, could you make a comment or talk about your initiatives in the flat panel display testing market and how you're doing there?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

That is one of the areas that pertains to the mobility market, and also consumer market, I should say. We expect to see some activity towards the end of the second quarter into the third quarter. We have had our products qualified for certain customers, test insertion, and we're looking forward to being part of the next ramp on those device tests.

David Duley
Analyst, Steelhead Securities

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment at this time, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Craig Ellis from B. Riley FBR. Your line is open.

Peter Peng
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Hi, this is actually Peter Peng calling in for Craig Ellis, thanks for taking my question. Congratulations on the strong execution. On the synergies, there's roughly about a $6 million gap from 2Q to 4Q's $40 million annual run rate. On a quarterly basis, is it going to be $3 million per quarter linearly, or is this more back-end loaded? How should we think about the linearity of the cost synergies?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Peter, are you referring to the cost synergies that we're achieving during the year?

Peter Peng
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Yes. From 2Q $17 million to fourth quarter's about roughly $40 million. How should we think about the quarterly projects?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Okay. Yeah. Think about, as I said, we've got about $4.2 million baked into Q2, so that's roughly $17 million a year. Right? We're looking at about $7 million in Q3, take you up to about $28 million a year, then roughly $9 million, $9.5 million estimated for Q4, so $38-ish million annualized. That really puts us in a good position to start realizing the full $10 million beginning in 2020.

Peter Peng
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Great. Thank you. On your 2Q guidance, can you talk about some of the end markets? Which end market are you specifically seeing a pickup? I know you mentioned that automotive is in the lull, but can you talk about other end markets that's doing well?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Yeah. Peter, as I said, we do see a small uptick in automotive. We continue to see strong recurring on the data center cloud and AI markets, essentially compute, right? We expect to see towards the end of the quarter also an uptick in the mobility market associated with flat panel display. We have received an order in April already for double-digit units of test handlers for mobile processor test. That's pretty much the story for second quarter. As you can see here, we have had really good success with high-performance contactors, and actually achieved record revenue in the first quarter for millimeter wave contactor applications.

We expect that trend to continue into the second quarter and for the balance of the year as we continue to gain new sockets for not only millimeter wave, but also over-the-air applications, radar applications, and also high performance, low impedance contactors.

Peter Peng
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Great. Thank you. One more question before I hop back in the queue. You mentioned the utilization rate at 80%. What's the historical rate to trigger a capacity buy from your customers?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

It is usually on the low 80s. When you see capacity buys, you're sort of 83, 84, trending to 85, you're really in a healthy state. Now 80 is across all customers, right? It's a weighted average across all customer base. Within that, you have pockets of strength and pockets of weakness, we basically have customers already at a position that are driving some capacity buys. It's just not broad base at the moment.

Peter Peng
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Okay. Some of the bigger foundries and analog talked about potentially a 30% half-on-half increase in sales. Would that push it near the 85-ish range, or would that be above the 85-ish range if that were to play out?

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

Well, honestly, I think to see a 30% increase, I think you'd be looking at an 85-ish range for utilization rate across the board.

Peter Peng
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Great. Thank you, guys.

Luis Müller
President and CEO, Cohu

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment at this time, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. I'm showing no additional questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Richard Yerganian
VP of Investor Relations, Cohu

Thank you, Howard, and thank you for everyone joining us on the call today, and hopefully we'll see you at an upcoming conference. Have a good evening.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.