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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Nov 15, 2021

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Traeger third quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. My name is Elliot, and I'll be coordinating your call today. If you would like to register a question during the presentation, you may do so by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I want to hand over to our host, Tom Burton, General Counsel. Tom, please go ahead when you're ready.

Tom Burton
General Counsel, Traeger

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining Traeger's call to discuss its third quarter results, which were released this afternoon and can be found on our website at investors.traeger.com. Hosting the call are Jeremy Andrus, Chief Executive Officer of Traeger, and Dom Blosil, Chief Financial Officer. Before we get started, I want to remind everyone that management's remarks on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are based on current management expectations. These may include, without limitations, predictions, expectations, targets or estimates, including regarding our anticipated financial performance, and actual results could differ materially from those mentioned. These forward-looking statements also involve substantial risks and uncertainties. Some of these may be outside of our control and could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by such statements.

These factors and uncertainties, among others, are discussed in our filings with the SEC. We encourage you to review these filings for a discussion of these factors, including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed today, which is also available on the investor relations portion of our website at investors.traeger.com. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. We speak only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise them for any new information. This call will also contain certain non-GAAP financial measures, including net income as adjusted, diluted EPS as adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA margin, which we believe are useful supplemental measures that assist in evaluating our ability to generate earnings, provide consistency and comparability with our past performance and facilitate period-to-period comparison of our core operating results and the results of pure companies.

Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income and loss are both used by our management team as an additional measure of our performance for purposes of business decision making, including managing expenditures and evaluating potential acquisitions. They help to identify additional trends in our financial results that may not be shown solely by period-to-period comparisons of net income or income from continuing operations. Each of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income has inherent limitations because of the excluded items and may not be directly comparable to similarly titled metrics used by other companies. Reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures and definitions of these indicators are included in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q and in our earnings release, both of which are available on the investor relations portion of our website at investors.traeger.com.

Now I would like to turn the call over to Jeremy Andrus, Chief Executive Officer of Traeger.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

This call. Before we begin, I want to welcome our new VP of Investor Relations, Nick Bacchus, who will be joining our team later this month. I couldn't be more excited to have Nick at Traeger and look forward to working with him. I would also like to thank the entire Traeger team for their contributions as we continue to transform the way people cook and empower everyone to create delicious meals. Today, I will discuss highlights from our quarterly results and share our progress in executing our long-term growth strategies, as well as how we are navigating the supply chain headwinds. I will then turn the call over to Dom to discuss details of our third quarter financial performance and provide an outlook for the remainder of 2021. We are pleased with the momentum in our business for the third quarter, with revenues increasing 12% year-over-year.

On a two-year stack basis, our growth was 110% in the third quarter, clearly highlighting ongoing strength in consumer demand for Traeger across our product categories. We remain obsessed with sell-through. Our strong growth at retail continues to earn us additional floor space with our retailers. We continue to see encouraging results from our market assault strategies in the form of increased demand and brand awareness. We deployed these strategies in 14 markets during the second quarter and saw brand awareness double and a significant lift in sales. Following our Q2 seasonal marketing campaign, we continue to see substantially faster growth in our focus markets relative to the company average. More consumers are entering the purchase funnel and recognizing that Traeger's innovations make cooking with wood simple. By leveraging technology, premium quality, and a thoughtful digital experience, everyone can become a pit master.

Given these results, we plan to expand our market assault strategy in 2022 to further extend and elevate our brand in new markets. We are enthusiastic about Q4 activation strategies as we look forward to the holidays. Unlike most brands in our category, we have a really strong holiday business, and Thanksgiving is one of our largest grilling days. We plan to be very active with innovation and unique marketing strategies that will continue to drive brand awareness and elevate our voice. This will both attract new consumers as well as engage the existing Traegerhood. In particular, we are pleased to collaborate with one of our largest retail partners, Home Depot, with exciting content on ESPN College GameDay. We believe that the versatility of our grills allows for accessible user experiences where a Traeger can be used for virtually any cooking occasion.

That user experience drives frequency, contributing to the ongoing momentum in our Consumables and Accessories categories. Turning to product innovation, we are excited about our two new premium priced limited edition wood pellet offerings. We successfully launched a pellet collaboration with Meat Church Barbecue that highlights smoke flavoring preferred by Texas pit masters, and also launched a limited edition turkey blend wood pellet with brine kit for the Thanksgiving holiday. One of our long-term growth pillars is to disrupt cooking experiences both indoor and outdoor. We have continued to do so with MEATER, which has experienced strong growth since the acquisition. It is now being offered on our website, and we plan to increase distribution of MEATER's wireless meat thermometers through our retail partners, as MEATER is currently available primarily via e-commerce channels.

We have already begun to roll out MEATER to our best retail locations, and we'll see meaningful distribution expansion in 2022. We take great pride in providing an incredible cooking experience for our customers, and we believe there are significant opportunities to offer holistic solutions where consumer demand is strong, but innovation is lacking. To that end, on November 2, we launched a business concept we've been working on for the past year called Traeger Provisions. We're offering premium meal kits consisting of high-quality proteins and partially prepared sides with easy-to-follow instructions, all delivered directly to your doorstep. The idea was born from consumer feedback around the difficulty and time it takes to purchase high-quality proteins and ingredients, and the desire to have a simplified, complete meal experience. That feedback taught us that Traeger has permission to play in more spaces throughout the consumer cooking journey.

This product offering is perfect for so many of our community members because it provides everything you need to create an amazing meal on your Traeger. We've done the work to elevate and simplify the consumer experience. Meals are developed and curated by our culinary team to deliver our favorite Traeger recipes, as well as facilitate consumer discovery of new offerings. We're sourcing high-quality ingredients, including Wagyu and heritage breed proteins, smokehouse style sides, rubs, sauces, and extras, as well as dedicated instructions to prepare, cook, and serve an unforgettable meal, which all seamlessly integrates into the existing Traeger experience. These premium boxes, which are shipped frozen, are designed to be served for any occasion, making cooking easy and efficient and at a value, with prices ranging from $16-$30 per person based on protein selection and box size.

We believe that this complete solution elevates the Traeger cooking experience beyond the grill and disrupts what is currently being offered in the marketplace. Put simply, it's working. Following a six month test in four markets, we are extremely pleased with the strong response from our consumers, many of whom have purchased more than one Provisions box. We found that 92% of participants expressed intent to purchase again, and 58% indicated interest in four or more boxes per year. We estimate the total U.S. market opportunity to be $20 billion. In addition, we believe we are able to scale this business over time with lower customer acquisition costs given the entrenched brand loyalty in the Traegerhood. Turning next to a topic that has been top of mind across many industries.

We highlighted last quarter the supply chain challenges that we would face during the second half of the year. Despite persistent challenges, we continue to focus on what we can control, and I am proud of how our team has responded to the unprecedented strain across the global supply chain. Our ability to meet demand during the quarter was outstanding. We hit all of our service level agreements and our inventory position is the best it has been in two years. Our strategy to increase production and warehouse inventory in China and in the U.S. has paid off, and our customers consistently tell us that our fulfillment performance is at a higher level than that of our competition. Dom will provide more details on the supply chain impacts, but I am pleased that we have inventory available to meet global demand.

We have instituted mitigation strategies to counter the significant increases in inbound freight costs. Our Vietnam production facility that was closed for several weeks during the end of the second quarter and early in the third quarter is back in full swing. In addition, we began working with a new manufacturing facility in China that I expect has the potential to be our best yet and are working on North American manufacturing that we expect to be operational in 2022. Stepping back a bit, our long-term growth pillars remain intact. We have tremendous opportunity ahead of us as our household penetration and unaided brand awareness remain low. The wood pellet category continues to grow faster than the overall grill category due to superior overall cooking experience to traditional grills, and we are industry leaders driving that growth.

We will continue to drive brand awareness through top-of-funnel advertising, as it is essential for us to be included in the consumer's initial consideration set. We have significant runway to increase penetration with our existing retail customer base. We continue to work with our trade partners to elevate our floor presence through enhanced merchandising opportunities, including fixtures, shop in shops, custom build-outs in select retail locations, and improved in-store associate training. In addition, we are improving and increasing our assortment in more doors with additional SKUs and higher-end grill assortments. As our brand awareness increases, we will be able to capture significantly more floor space, particularly in strong grill markets such as the Southeast. Our DTC channel is under-penetrated and represents another meaningful growth opportunity. We are pleased with our performance in that channel, and we will continue to invest in its growth.

New grill and platform innovation that we will be introducing into the marketplace in 2022. This new offering will further strengthen our position as a leader in the category. Our focus on innovation is not confined to grills only, but also manifests itself across other categories, including consumables, accessories, and digital experiences. We remain excited about the growth opportunities ahead of us in consumables. We have great new product introductions in rubs and sauces, and we will continue to provide strong limited edition collaborations within our pellet offerings that resonate with our Traegerhood. We see an opportunity to increase the accessibility of sauces and rubs by expanding into new distribution, including grocery. Finally, we are enthusiastic about exporting our brand globally. We had strong results in Canada, and the brand continues to strengthen in Germany and in other geographies like the U.K. Our global journey is just beginning.

We have significant white space ahead of us, and we continue to be extremely positive about our future. I will now turn the call over to Dom to discuss our third quarter financial performance in greater detail. Dom?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Thank you, Jeremy, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. To start, we are pleased to share our third quarter results and our outlook for the future of Traeger. Lapping an extremely strong third quarter 2020 comparison, our business performed well across channels and geographies, and we are excited about the returns generated from our investments to drive brand awareness. As Jeremy discussed, our investments in innovation are a key differentiator for Traeger, and we are excited to share our latest innovation, Traeger Provisions, with you. Looking back at the third quarter, we're happy with our strong revenue and EBITDA performance. For the third quarter, revenue increased 12% to $162 million compared to the third quarter last year, driven by growth in Grills and Accessories.

Grills revenue increased 4% to $109 million, attributable to a higher average selling price, partially offset by lower unit volumes. We are extremely pleased by the performance of our Grill category, given that we were comping against a Grill revenue growth rate of 98% in the third quarter of 2020, further illustrating the extraordinary demand for our products. Consumables revenue declined 12% to $28 million compared to the third quarter of last year, driven by a return to normal seasonal retail ordering patterns. We're up against an unusually tough third quarter 2020 comparison, during which Consumables revenue grew 72% over the prior year, reflecting the pandemic's impact on seasonal shifts in our business.

Lastly, accessories revenue increased 182% to $25 million, driven by the incremental revenue from the acquisition of MEATER and the strong growth of Traeger accessories. Looking at our performance by market, we continue to see great momentum in consumer demand in the U.S., as well as exceptional revenue growth in Canada and rest of world. We remain in the early stages of our international expansion and are highly encouraged by Traeger's brand momentum outside of the U.S. Gross profit for the quarter decreased to $54 million compared to $66 million in the third quarter last year. Gross profit margin was 34% in the third quarter, decreasing approximately 1,200 basis points over the same period last year.

As we highlighted during last quarter's call, the decrease in gross margin was due to a combination of increased freight rates and logistics costs, appreciation of the Chinese renminbi relative to the U.S. dollar, increased commodity and other product costs, and amortization of acquired intangible assets. While the rise in inbound freight costs have been unprecedented and is expected to persist through 2022, we have taken steps to mitigate the increased costs through price increases as well as through the implementation of freight surcharges. As such, we believe our pricing actions will continue to drive sequential improvements during the fourth quarter, and we believe that the third quarter will represent the floor for gross margin this year.

Sales and marketing expenses increased by 82% to $49 million compared to $27 million in the third quarter last year. The increase was primarily due to acceleration of equity-based compensation expense of $10 million associated with our IPO, an increase in professional services in connection with non-routine start-up costs attributed to Traeger Provisions, and higher personnel-related expenses to build the infrastructure to support our current and future growth.

As a result of these factors, net loss for the third quarter was $89 million as compared to net income of $8 million in the third quarter last year. Net loss per diluted share was $0.78 compared to net income per diluted share of $0.07 in the third quarter last year. Adjusted net loss for the quarter was $7 million or $0.06 per diluted share as compared to adjusted net income of $24 million or $0.22 per diluted share in the same period last year. Adjusted EBITDA is a key performance measure that we use to assess our financial performance. Adjusted EBITDA was $4 million in the third quarter as compared to $34 million in the same period last year. The decline in Adjusted EBITDA was due to the factors previously mentioned. Now turning to the balance sheet.

At the end of the third quarter, cash and cash equivalents totaled $18 million compared to $12 million at the end of the previous fiscal year. We ended the quarter with $370 million of debt, resulting in a net leverage ratio of 3.4. In addition, last quarter, we amended our receivables financing agreements that increased the net borrowing capacity up to $100 million. At the end of the third quarter, we had drawn down $19 million under this facility for general corporate and working capital purposes. Inventory at the end of the third quarter was $115 million compared to $69 million at the end of the previous fiscal year. The increase in inventory was driven by two factors. First, we have made a deliberate decision to lean into higher inventory levels.

Second, the cost of inventory has increased due to certain macro pressures I referenced earlier. We continue to work to maintain an inventory balance that represents the right product mix to meet expected demand, and we continue to invest into higher levels of safety stock in response to supply chain challenges related to the pandemic. We are comfortable with the level and quality of our inventory to meet demand during the upcoming holiday period. Turning to our guidance. We are reaffirming our fiscal year 2021 expected revenue range of $760 million-$770 million and expected adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $103 million-$108 million.

As I noted earlier, our year-to-date 2021 profitability has been negatively impacted by exogenous macroeconomic pressures on global supply chains that span inbound freight rates, higher landside logistics costs, appreciation of the Chinese renminbi relative to the U.S. dollar, and inflationary pressures on commodity prices. We are particularly sensitive to the higher inbound freight rates given the large size of our grills. We believe that the elevated inbound freight rates are transitory but will likely persist through 2022. For context, we estimate that the unfavorable impact to our gross profit and our adjusted EBITDA due to the year-over-year increase in inbound freight rates will be between $25 million and $30 million for the fiscal year 2021. In an effort to mitigate these cost pressures, we implemented a price increase in late Q3, followed by the addition of a freight surcharge in early Q4.

Our pricing actions should partially offset the expected inbound freight headwind for the remainder of 2021 and in 2022. Our fiscal year-end 2021 adjusted EBITDA outlook reflects continued gross margin pressures, partially offset by our mitigation strategies, and includes ongoing investment in product innovation, sales and marketing, and the higher costs to operate as a public company. We believe that the global macro supply chain challenges persist through 2022. We remain hyper-focused on strategies to both navigate and mitigate these risks. Our first priority is to protect revenue to meet current and future demand by, one, leaning into higher on-hand inventory levels, which also helps to navigate current landside bottlenecks, and by, two, managing continuity in Asia production by securing long lead time components and by leveraging low-cost Asia warehousing of finished goods.

Our second priority is to manage container rate volatility by strategically controlling the mix between our lower contracted container rates and the higher spot and premium container rates. Now looking beyond 2021, and as Jeremy discussed, we have made the configurations for Traeger Provisions' launch and scale, are in line with our expectations. We are developing a disciplined and deliberate approach to the pacing of these costs to further scale Traeger Provisions in 2022 and beyond.

However, to unlock sustainable, profitable long-term growth, 2022 will be an important investment year as we continue to expand our sourcing and fulfillment capabilities, fine-tune the customer experience, and ramp our investment in customer acquisition. In conclusion, our team has done a fantastic job of managing the global macro supply chain challenges. We remain excited about our future as we continue to disrupt the growing industry with new product innovation, grow the Traegerhood, increase brand awareness, and expand Traeger globally. With that, we will now open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. For our Q&A, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted, and please also limit yourself to one question and a follow-up question only. Our first question today comes from Randy Konik from Jefferies. Randy, your line is now open.

Randy Konik
Managing Director, Jefferies

Yeah, thanks a lot. I guess first, Jeremy, you talked about North American production coming online in 2022. I think it's in Mexico, correct me if I'm wrong. Can you just give us some more color on A, when exactly do you think in 2022 that goes live? And then B, how much capacity you can do out of that facility or facilities, whatever you're building down there or procuring, and how you kinda think about, you know, building long-term kinda nodes of manufacturing and supply going forward for the next few years? Thanks.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Hey, Randy, thanks for the question. I would say a couple of things. First of all, it's been our objective to diversify our base of manufacturing from just a portfolio of risk perspective. Always looking to add high-quality manufacturers. As I said in my prepared remarks, we added a facility in China that was opportunistic. It's not where we're looking to increase concentration, but we partnered with someone that was as turnkey from a partnership perspective as we've seen. In terms of when we would bring that manufacturing operations online in 2022, I'd say sometime in the middle part of the year, second, third quarter is probably likely. We've been working on that for about a year now.

I think it's safe to say sometime second quarter, maybe as late as early third quarter. I wouldn't say it's as easy as turning on a facility. We start with a single SKU. We optimize process, we manage quality, and there's sort of a long process of optimization with a manufacturing partner that happens over the course of many years. This is in line with our strategy to bring manufacturing to North America. Frankly, we'll be looking at other options to get to bring manufacturing even closer to our customer base, which is all about the quality of the partnership, but also the level of automation. Clearly, inbound transportation from Asia is very, very painful now.

We suffer from that disproportionately to other brands given the size and weight of our inventory. You know, we clearly don't believe that those costs stay there, but we think there's value in having a diversified source. I could also see at some point in time, when Europe is large enough to support manufacturing, that there are some opportunities there as well. Quality production, ability of partners to innovate, and as close as is economically feasible to our base of customers, given size and weight of inventory, is sort of the context around our strategy.

Randy Konik
Managing Director, Jefferies

Super helpful. I guess my last question is, I just wanted to unpack and get more color around, you know, Traeger Provisions. Seems like a really interesting and good idea strategically. Can you maybe give us some learnings out of those, I think you said four markets you had a test run in and, you know, what was some of, kind of the key level takeaways from how consumers were ordering, repeat purchase behavior, anything like that? Just to give us some flavor on how you made a lot of investments to get this strategy off the ground. Kinda give us some perspective of how you can kind of, you know, roll that out across the country, I guess, set for that now.

Just give us some perspective of how that, the business may look from a, you know, a margin profile perspective or anything of that nature you can share with us. Thanks.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Let me go in a little bit of a different order. First of all, you know, why the concept? The mission of our business is to create better culinary experiences in people's homes. That started with the grill, which we have innovated and will continue to innovate. It led to great recipe content. We connected the grill to the cloud to make the cooking experience better. This is part of the journey in creating a cooking experience that is better, that removes the friction, that actually makes cooking more fun. Cooking is not fun for a lot of people.

You know, the heavy lifting effort in not only procuring good cuts of protein, unique cuts of protein from unique sources, it takes time. It's often they are often or usually not available in many markets. If you think about preparing two, three, four sides, the number of ingredients and the amount of time that it takes to purchase and to create those sides, it's a lot of work. We learned as we spent time with our consumers that this was a service they would really value. When we launched, I think it was interesting to read comments on social media. I read thousands of comments on social media, and they very consistently said, "I can't believe Traeger thought of this.

This makes so much sense." Did not read any comments otherwise. The concept makes sense. There is value in the offering. It's sort of restaurant better than restaurant quality at a restaurant competitive price. What a Traeger owner told us in the process is they get to cook it themselves. There's a little bit of preparation, there's a little bit of cooking, but it's not all of the things that it takes. They like that part of it. They like the storytelling component of it, of bringing someone into your home and being able to talk about what you made, what was inspired, where the protein came from. They really appreciated all of the thoughtful details behind the unboxing process, which they really enjoyed.

The experience for us, it's from ordering, unboxing, cooking and serving, and the reaction was very positive. Net promoter score for the service, since launch to date is in the 70s. We think there are opportunities to improve that. But we found that, 92% of participants who paid full price for this product expressed intent to purchase again. 58% indicated interest in four or more boxes per year. If you think about lifetime value of customer, you know, we are very proud of the fact that we sell a premium grilling solution with an average selling price at retail of, you know, $850 or so and climbing consistently.

We sell, you know, on average five-six bags of pellets to a consumer per year, some rubs and sauces. Suddenly, if you think about a consumer purchasing four or more meals per year, at an AOV of, you know, a couple hundred dollars, and, you know, we're still early to know exactly what that is, but the Thanksgiving meal, which was priced at $300, has sold very well. What that does to AOV, what that does to lifetime value of customer, given the value of food that goes through a Traeger, is it really very meaningfully multiplies it. You know, I would say that the concept makes sense. The feedback is universally positive.

It's a very large space, so we are going to build it thoughtfully. We don't see this as driving revenue or profit in the business anytime soon. It's a nice part about thoughtful innovation. You don't innovate when you need revenue. You innovate with a very long runway to be able to really ensure that the customer experience is always impeccable and gets better. There's work to do to scale supply chain, but we intend to do it in a scrappy way. That's how Traeger was built. You know, I think it's worth re-emphasizing that this is frozen. We are not building a complicated fresh ingredients through it. It's not our model.

We think the frozen model in terms of what we're serving is a convenient experience. It is not meant to be seven nights a week. Frankly, we think it's or our consumers are telling us it's a higher quality experience. You know, a protein that is flash frozen at the moment of harvest is actually remarkably fresher when you thaw and cook on your Traeger than something that's been, quote-unquote, "fresh" in the supply chain.

Randy Konik
Managing Director, Jefferies

That was very thorough and very helpful. Thank you.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Sure.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Glass from Morgan Stanley. John, please go ahead.

John Glass
Managing Director and Associate Director of US Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Thanks very much. I just first, Jeremy, want to follow up on that. First, you said, you know, it's not something that's going to be revenue or profit accretive near term. I just want to understand the context of that. Is it just going to be small and ramp? To be clear, if it does scale or when it does scale, is it a similar margin business ultimately to the base business so that we will see that it is accretive to revenue? Or do you think this is a different model somehow from a profitability standpoint over the long term?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah, I'll actually jump in. This is Dom. Thanks for the question. It's certainly a good one. I mean, we're early in terms of, you know, how we're defining shape of the P&L specific to provisions. In the short term, I mean, that's an accurate statement. As we develop the supply chain, as we build out our sourcing network, one of the key focuses is building nimbleness into that sourcing network, which would allow us to grow and scale over time and thereby, you know, drive expansion of margins to a steady-state point. There is infrastructure, there is cost up front around sourcing that, you know, as we begin to amortize over more and more units, we'll start to scale on.

The shape of the P&L will be different from Traeger's core business, and that's something that we'll plan to share next year as part of our annual 2022 guidance. I think it is worth noting that it will be a different makeup than what you're seeing in Traeger's core business today. I think where we see value is, number one, in the size of the total addressable market. This could be as big or bigger than Traeger's core business today.

Two, that does provide some flexibility in how we think about the margin structure to ensure that we're delivering the right customer experience, that we're smart about customer acquisition costs as we think about the first sale versus the fourth or the fifth, how we think about, you know, AOV or pricing of the model, which I would believe is at a premium compared to other product offerings in the space. But certainly we'll also be profitable over time as we continue to scale the program and the business.

You know, it could be fairly strong and flow through as top line scales in relation to the leverage we're getting through our supplier network, the leverage we're getting through the investments we're making in logistics and third party, you know, warehousing and fulfillment to how we think about the unfair advantage that we believe we have from a customer acquisition cost and how that will scale and effectively provide for more value up front versus having to start from scratch without a large community and sort of captive audience that's listening and wanting to purchase the product. That's really how we think about it today.

Certainly we'll follow up with more details as we head into 2022 and share more guidance on the full year as well as specific to our thinking about provisions at that point in time.

John Glass
Managing Director and Associate Director of US Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Thanks. Maybe back to the here and now. Can you just talk a little bit more about the grill business in the third quarter? Volumes were down. I think ASPs or mix was up. Can you just unpack where you were on a volume basis versus expectations? Was it a better quarter, worse? What was it pricing or mix that helped offset that or both? Maybe could you just quantify what the moving pieces were in the grill business this quarter? Thanks.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Unit volumes were earlier in the year. You know, we're still seeing, I think, sell-through indicators that are in line with our expectations as we think about how the business begins to normalize from a seasonality standpoint with a return to normal in terms of like retail ordering patterns. You know, clearly there were components of the pandemic that made for an interesting comp in Q3. As we see these things normalize, really no surprises emerge from a unit volume standpoint. Really the growth did come via ASP, as you had mentioned, and that's largely driven by a shift in mix. We saw a fairly sizable shift in mix for our price point, starting with the Pro seven eighty and up. That's where all of the volume effectively shifted.

From that standpoint, our ASPs grew as a result of that, and that's effectively what drove the growth from a grill standpoint in the quarter.

John Glass
Managing Director and Associate Director of US Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Okay. The benefit therefore of pricing would come and the surcharges on freight would come more in the fourth quarter than if those are taking late.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Correct.

John Glass
Managing Director and Associate Director of US Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

in the third quarter or even this quarter.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

That's right.

John Glass
Managing Director and Associate Director of US Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Okay.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Exactly. Yep.

John Glass
Managing Director and Associate Director of US Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Kaumil Gajrawala from Credit Suisse. Kaumil, the line is now open.

Kaumil Gajrawala
Managing Director of Equity Research, Credit Suisse

Thanks. Good evening, everybody. I guess a couple of questions on the comments on 3Q being the GM floor. Can you maybe just talk about what you're seeing specifically that would, you know, suggest gross margins start to get better from here? Obviously, there's a price increase that you mentioned. I'm sorry if I missed the amount of the price increase, but also just in terms of what you're seeing in terms of cost of supply, bottlenecks, all the other things that, of course, we're observing across a series of different different industries, on why you feel confident on this GM number.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah. I would say that, I guess to answer your first question, yeah, we view Q3 as really the floor for the year. I think that based on the price increase and the surcharge, we should see sequential improvements over Q3 from a gross margin standpoint. However, if you look at kind of a world index of container rates, where we're most sensitive to some of these macro trends that we're seeing that are impacting gross margin, you see a fairly aggressive ramp in those rates over the course of Q3, which for our business has a longer tail, given when we recognize those expenses relative to when we're purchasing containers. That's kind of number one. That's something that we'll see continue to flow through the P&L.

I think, too, we're just seeing those rates sustain. I'd say that as you look at the current environment, where index container rates peaked around $11,000-$12,000. Over the last couple of weeks, we've seen those taper down to, call it, $9,000. They're really sitting still at peak levels. Clearly there has been an improvement in the trend over the last couple of weeks that I think is favorable, and there is some indication that will continue through the end of Q4, and ultimately will create a slight tailwind as we head into Q1 as well.

However, I think that the general consensus is that where we may see some tapering of those rates, they'll likely rebound or accelerate in the first half of next year. Something that we'll watch closely, we clearly don't have a crystal ball, but it's something that we think will be transitory, hopefully by the end of 2022, which is why, you know, we implemented these price increases, which is, you know, ultimately critical for our business given the fact that, you know, the rates have increased over $2,000 average container rates from the prior year or two.

It's a fairly dramatic increase, and the price increase in and of itself should provide for some sequential improvement over Q3, which is probably what gives us the most confidence in terms of the ability to see some sequential improvement over Q3 in gross margins.

Kaumil Gajrawala
Managing Director of Equity Research, Credit Suisse

Okay, great. I know you mentioned you're, you know, you are quite pleased with your ability to supply and fulfill. I just wanted to confirm that the inventory condition sounds like it's better, but over the course of the quarter were you out of stock? Was any money left on the table, or were you able to kind of get by?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah, we were able to get by. I think we're feeling pretty good both about our own inventory position. It's certainly seasonally higher than it's normally been, which we've talked about as, you know, being by design. We've deliberately leaned into inventory just given the complexity within the supply chain, you know, the ability to procure or secure containers in Asia to the current bottlenecks that we're seeing, especially at the Port of Oakland number of vessels sitting out in the water. It's like 80 vessels as of today, and that's been climbing over the last quarter. We're also seeing, you know, vessels wait roughly 18 days before you're able to begin to process containers through the yard.

These are clearly bottlenecks that can complicate supply chains and make it very challenging to fulfill demand, which is why we've been strategically investing more in inventory. Number one, we do feel comfortable with the level of our inventory today to fill demand through the end of the year. Two, we've done a fairly good job of keeping, you know, product in stock with core retail on the website and don't believe we've really missed any turns there. Three, it's ultimately something that, you know, we'll continue to watch, but at the end of the day, we feel like in channel inventory levels are in a pretty good spot as well.

I think those three things combined give us confidence through year end that we'll be able to meet demand and in a fairly decent spot coming into the new year.

Kaumil Gajrawala
Managing Director of Equity Research, Credit Suisse

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Sharon Zackfia from William Blair. Sharon, please go ahead.

Sharon Zackfia
Partner and Group Head of the Consumer Sector, William Blair

Hi, good afternoon. I guess a question on the price increases. What has the customer response been to the Grill price increases?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

I mean, if you're talking about our retail partners, I think that they were expecting it. Ultimately they partnered with Traeger to implement those price increases. I think we have great partnerships. You know, we're not the only brand raising prices right now. Ultimately I believe our retailers have come to expect it. I'd say if you think about it through the lens of the consumer, you know, the main data point that we have is really coming via sell-through indicators. Up to this point, you know, through to October, we really haven't seen any meaningful deviations that would signal a change or an outlier impact to kind of run rate volume performance compared to prior year based on those price increases.

That's something that we'll continue to watch, and we'll clearly see, you know, more data flow through as we head through November and into December. At least quarter to date in Q4, we're feeling pretty confident that the price increase didn't have a dramatic impact on volumes.

Sharon Zackfia
Partner and Group Head of the Consumer Sector, William Blair

That's really helpful. I know you mentioned the freight component. I remember on the last call there was a conversation about rolled steel. Is that still elevated or have you seen that roll over? I guess on the container side too, is there the possibility of looking to lock in your inbound freight for next year at some point?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

On the first question, I don't know that we've seen any real movements in steel. The last price increase that rolled through for Traeger was in Q3. You know, that's something that we'll watch every quarter. At this point, I believe they've been fairly stable and it's something that you know, we'll continue to watch, but no material sort of changes to that trend there. On the inbound side, as you think about kind of fixed versus floating you know, container rates, we typically lock in our fixed allocation every April, and so that's something that we will do.

There is some indication, based on some industry research that we have, that the momentum that we're seeing in spot rates and some of the dynamics that may take shape in 2022 may indicate higher fixed contract rates. That's something that, you know, we'll approach, you know, carefully. Clearly, there's an advantage to locking in as high a fixed allocation as possible. As an example, this year, one of the challenges that we're facing is you can't lock in 100%. We were able to lock in call it 50%-60%, and our partners have honored that, which has been a real advantage for Traeger.

To the extent that we can manage more allocation to fixed versus the bookings that are tied to spot and premium rates, the better position that we're in. But again, it's something that is kind of an unknown until, you know, we head into that April timeframe when we'll be negotiating our contract rates as well as to what extent we can lock in fixed.

Sharon Zackfia
Partner and Group Head of the Consumer Sector, William Blair

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Benedict from Baird. Peter, your line is now open.

Peter Benedict
Managing Director of Equity Research, Baird

All right, guys. Thank you. My first question, just I don't know, Dom, if you could maybe size or frame the impact the price increase you think it'll have on kind of Q4 2022 revenue, and then maybe full year 2022, just to kind of isolate that impact. Curious how you guys are thinking about the fourth quarter revenue outlook here, maybe relative to 90 days ago. It looks like you've got a lot more inventory. I'm not sure how much of that is sellable inventory versus kind of on its way here. Just kind of curious about your view just on the fourth quarter relative to maybe where you were about 90 days ago. That's my first question.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah. On the price increase, yeah, you know, as we kind of evaluated the impact of that, we think that it's probably 150-250 basis points of sequential improvement. That's something that you know will have a larger impact on the first half of next year, just given the higher volumes that obviously we drive in that period of time. That's generally what we've kind of estimated to be the impact of the price increases and certainly something that we can share an update on as we proceed through the quarter. Well, sorry, can you repeat your second question?

Peter Benedict
Managing Director of Equity Research, Baird

Well, yeah, no, that's all. Just how you're thinking about the fourth quarter revenue in general relative to maybe where we were 90 days ago. I know you guys held the full year guidance, but you've got a lot, looks like you've got more inventory on hand than maybe you're expecting or again, the balance sheet inventory numbers are higher, but I'm not sure how much of that is sellable inventory if it's just on its way here. Just has your view of kind of the revenue opportunity in the fourth quarter changed here in the last few months?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah, no, I think, you know, if anything, you know, the Q3 performance just reaffirmed our confidence in Q4. We effectively held the range the same or reaffirmed guidance for full year. No real deviations there. From an inventory standpoint, again, we're in full control of what we have. I'd say that more of that is sitting in our warehouse than on the water than last year, because we have been fairly deliberate in, you know, bringing inventory in, securing containers, and ensuring that, you know, we're protected or building cushion into our supply chain via higher inventory levels.

As I had mentioned in my comments earlier, you know, part of that is the part of the increase in inventory is due to the fact that inventory just costs more, and that's because of the burden of inbound freight, that's associated with the inventory that we're purchasing today. That number actually looks bigger than it, you know, normally would just on a unit-adjusted basis. I'd say kind of on, you know, under normal sort of seasonal levels of inventory, we're probably, you know, holding the burden component constant for inbound freight. We're probably 20 days ahead of where we normally like to be from an inventory standpoint.

Again, we feel really good about that position given the fact that it's sort of built in ahead of any potential future risks that could emerge from within the supply chain. It's all good inventory, right? At the end of the day, we're going to sell through it. We don't have challenges with obsolete inventory. Obviously, we're not tied to fashion trends or anything like that. We actually have the luxury of being able to lean into higher inventory balances in order to obviously offset some of the risks that we're seeing in the supply chain.

At some point in time, if we believe that we're slightly heavier on inventory and things begin to subside on the supply chain or macro front, we don't have any challenges in moving that inventory, and we'll just adjust our inventory plan accordingly.

Peter Benedict
Managing Director of Equity Research, Baird

Okay, that's all. My next question, just on the gross margin, any way you can maybe take a stab at sizing the sequential improvement you're expecting in the fourth quarter versus the third quarter? I understand 2022 has a lot of moving parts, including provisions and. Just do you think at this point there's an opportunity to claw back the divot you've seen here in 2021 from a gross margin perspective? Or is that a tall order at this point?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

In Q4? Is that your question specifically in Q4?

Peter Benedict
Managing Director of Equity Research, Baird

Dom, again, Q4 with the sequential change from Q3 to Q4, and then broadly on 2022, do you think there's an opportunity to claw back?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Right. Yeah, no, it's a good question. I mean, the sequential improvement won't be dramatic.

You know, we're not going to claw back to first half levels. Like I said, on sort of a normal or volume adjusted basis, as you look at the impact of the price increase, it could be 150 basis points , 200 + basis points of improvement. You know, there are other components in gross margin that we've referenced, such as the amortization that we acquired from MEATER. There are a couple aspects to that if you normalize, you know, show fairly slightly improved gross margin over what we're showing in Q3, for example, the amortization that we acquired is like 100 basis points of margin.

There's a little bit of noise in there, but I'd say sequentially, you know, the price increase should, you know, add $102 .

Peter Benedict
Managing Director of Equity Research, Baird

Got it. Okay, thanks so much.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Keith from Piper Sandler. Peter, your line is now open.

Peter Keith
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hey. Yeah, thanks so much, guys. You had talked earlier in the script around your market assault strategy, hitting 14 markets. I was curious if you could just unpack that a little bit with some of the specific marketing attempts that you've made and then maybe even what are some of the specific markets you've gone after.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Yeah. Happy to take that question. Let me start by saying the intent of the market assault strategy is to align all of our discretionary and incremental sales and marketing resources into narrow geographies. There is a meaningful investment in top-of-funnel media, broadcast television, advanced TV, digital investment. There is incremental investment in the market in terms of boots on the ground. We have a lot of energy around activation with account managers, salespeople at a local level. We think that drives meaningful merchandising improvements and education at retail. We spend a lot of time training and helping retail associates understand the brand, how it works, how to sell it.

Across those 14 markets, we really saw meaningful lift and there are a number of components. You know, in addition, radio, sports radio, local talk radio, and then the investments around merchandising, fixturing, POP, that we make at the point of sale. The intent is to be very narrowly focused into, as opposed to spreading the dollars, across a broad geography, to really have a number of touch points that we think are required, as part of the consideration phase of buying a Traeger. Those 14 markets range in size, and they range in geographic location. There's some Intermountain region. Utah's one. Colorado has been one. Oregon, Portland, I should say. We organize around DMAs.

We've got some smaller markets like Spokane, for example. Our expectation heading to next year is that we will exit a couple of those markets, and simply based on the return on spend that we believe we're getting, and we will add some additional markets. I would expect that we will keep and continue to invest in 12 of the 14 markets, and that we will add an additional six or seven markets. Markets will focus in the Southeast. We've got three markets that we'll focus on there, traditional outdoor cooking markets that you know, remarkably our penetration is still very low, but where we have a customer base, we're winning.

We will likely add a market in the Midwest in Rust Belt region. Again, the intent is to add these markets slowly over time and to continue to invest in and maintain the markets that we think are performing well.

Peter Keith
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay, great. That's an excellent summary. Maybe to follow up a little bit, but at the very end of the closing or the opening remarks, prepared remarks, you were talking about 2022 will be an important investment year. I don't know if that's directly with some of the early reads on Traeger Provisions. Has there been any, you know, change in recent months that you wanna ramp up the investments to drive future growth?

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

No, I wouldn't say there's any change from steady state. I mean, 2021 was a meaningful investment year. The investment that we made in Provisions was very significant, and it has started to generate some revenue, not profit yet, but we'll manage that carefully. We'll certainly manage, you know, any of the losses associated with it as tightly as we're able to. But I don't believe that there will be a change in investment strategy. You know, we believe in investing in innovation, investing in brand, and that there's a long tail on both these investments and of course, any of the infrastructure that goes along. Yes, next year.

Peter Keith
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Thanks so much, and good luck with the holiday season.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Thank you.

Operator

Our final question today comes from Joe Feldman from Telsey Advisory Group. Joe, your line is now open.

Joe Feldman
Senior Managing Director and Assistant Director of Research, Telsey Advisory Group

Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Just two quick ones. With regard to the freight pressure that you're seeing, and Dom, I think you mentioned it was $25 million-$30 million of headwind you're expecting this year. Can you remind us how many months that really is for? 'Cause it seems like it's more of like a second half thing. I'm wondering, you know, I'm just trying to think about how we should think about annualizing that next year, or does the pressure last longer next year? We're hearing that from some companies that it could last a bit longer. That's why I was trying to think about it from that standpoint, like on a monthly accrual, so to speak.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Right. No, good question. Really, we started to see inbound freight rates, you know, change course back in Q4 of last year. So there's been sort of a steady increase in inbound freight rates through the first half of this year. Then if you look at this kind of world index of container rates, they really accelerated in the back half, kind of starting in Q3, I mean, fairly dramatically. That's kind of really what surprised us is, you know, we were seeing, you know, rates that were kind of double what they were last year, maybe slightly higher, going from call it an average container rate of $2,000-$3,000 upwards of $4,000-$5,000.

They really took off in Q3 and have really sustained at those levels. You've seen these rates go from, call it $4,000 or $5,000 to $11,000-$12,000 on average, with certain containers going for $25,000 +. It's really, you know, definitely back weighted in the year. Depending on, you know, where we see these rates move or sort of normalize in 2022 will dictate to what extent we feel that burden.

As you think about the $25 million-$30 million impact, that is largely weighted toward the back half of the year, which on an annualized basis, if you sort of extrapolate that into 2022, if these rates sustain at sort of Q3, Q4 levels, that number could look bigger than the $25 million-$30 million. Now, our price increase will offset, and plus our freight surcharge will offset a component of that. To the extent that rates, you know, taper and maybe they don't go back to $4,000-$5,000, but they're better than kind of what we're seeing today, you know, that will show some improvement compared to the back half of this year.

Hard to say, and I think that we share that sentiment with other brands, just based on what we're reading and kind of our boots on the ground read. We just don't see a catalyst that would shift this dynamic meaningfully into a tailwind in 2022, and it's something that we're watching and preparing for, accordingly.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Well, look, I would just add that the good news for us, it's a challenging moment in terms of the transportation cost, but it gave us the ability to raise price not once, but twice. We like how our consumer is responding to that. We believe like most brands that these meaningfully increased levels of transportation costs are transitory. When they do mitigate, when they come back down to more normalized levels, whatever that may be and whenever that may be, we will be a net beneficiary from a flow-through perspective. I don't think that will be the case with all brands. But we have a strong brand, and our consumer has responded well to a fairly meaningful increase.

Joe Feldman
Senior Managing Director and Assistant Director of Research, Telsey Advisory Group

Got it. That's really helpful. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Then the last one, maybe a quick one, Dom. I know that grill units were down year-over-year. How did they compare to 2019, though, with third quarter? Presumably, they were up pretty nicely, much like the revenue number was or am I mistaken?

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah. No, they were.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

Yep, that's right.

Joe Feldman
Senior Managing Director and Assistant Director of Research, Telsey Advisory Group

Okay. Got it.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yeah. We saw a nice growth from a standpoint.

Joe Feldman
Senior Managing Director and Assistant Director of Research, Telsey Advisory Group

Thank you.

Dom Blosil
CFO, Traeger

Yep. On the two-year stack.

Joe Feldman
Senior Managing Director and Assistant Director of Research, Telsey Advisory Group

Okay.

Jeremy Andrus
CEO, Traeger

We appreciate the thoughtful questions. It's been a unique moment in time for this brand. I would say that, you know, we feel really good about how the brand, the business is positioned. We are investing in areas that we believe our consumers care about. We are taking share and we're doing it in an environment that's been unprecedented. You know, to grow over the third quarter of 2020, we think is remarkable. It was a year where shelter was robust and when inventory levels were depleted, and so there was a lot of channel loading, there was low seasonality. We like how we're positioned.

We spend our time obsessing over the experience that our consumer has, and we believe long term, that's a winning formula. Anything that we can do to service our consumer, we're doing. Anything that we can do to mitigate some of these challenging components of supply chain, we are doing as well. I'm very proud of the team for how they have responded to a difficult environment. Long term, I think it makes us better, and we will always look to the future with our consumer in very strong position in mind, and we feel good about where we are from that perspective. Appreciate the question, and thanks for the interest. We look forward to staying connected over the coming quarters.

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect your lines, and we thank you for joining.

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