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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Feb 22, 2023

Operator

Hello and welcome to today's Constellium fourth quarter and full year 2022 results call. My name is Bailey, and I'll be the moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call, with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to pass the conference over to Jason Hershiser, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jason Hershiser
Head of Investor Relations, Constellium

Thank you, Bailey. I would like to welcome everyone to our fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings call. On the call today, we have our Chief Executive Officer, Jean-Marc Germain, our Chief Financial Officer, Peter Matt, and Jack Guo, our CFO Designate. After the presentation, we will have a Q&A session. A copy of the slide presentation for today's call is available on our website at constellium.com. Today's call is being recorded. Before we begin, I'd like to encourage everyone to visit the company's website and take a look at our recent filings. Today's call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements include statements regarding the company's anticipated financial and operating performance, future events and expectations. May involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties.

For a summary of specific risk factors that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, please refer to the factors presented under the heading Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 20-F. All information in the presentation is as of the date of the presentation. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement resulting from new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. In addition, today's presentation includes information regarding certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please see the reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures attached in today's slide presentation, which supplement our IFRS disclosures. Without further ado, I'd like to turn the call over to Jean-Marc Germain.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Thank you, Jason. Good morning, good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for your interest in Constellium. Let's begin on slide 5. I want to start by thanking each of our 12,500 employees for their relentless focus on safety. Safety is our number one priority and a key pillar of our sustainability strategy. I am pleased to report that we delivered again best-in-class safety performance in 2022, reducing our recordable case rate for the year to 1.8 per million hours worked. I would like to specifically recognize several of our sites for their excellent safety performance. Our Changchun joint venture in China completed 3 million hours without a recordable case in 2022. Muscle Shoals, Neuf-Brisach, Ravenswood, Singen, and the Valais operations all completed 1 million hours without a recordable case. Finally, 12 of our sites completed 2022 with 0 recordable cases.

Our safety journey is never complete, though, and we all need to remain focused on this critical priority every day. We remain fully committed to achieving our safety target to reduce our recordable case rate to 1.5 per million hours by 2025. Let's turn to slide 6 and discuss the highlights from our fourth quarter performance. Shipments were 368,000 tons, down 5% compared to the fourth quarter of 2021. Revenue increased 8% to EUR 1.8 billion as a result of improved price and mix, partially offset by lower metal prices and lower shipments. While our revenues are affected by changes in metal prices, we operate a pass-through business model, which minimizes our exposure to metal price risk.

Our Value-Added Revenue, which reflects our sales, excluding the cost of metal, was EUR 696 million, up 18% compared to the same period last year. Our net income of EUR 30 million in the quarter compares to net income of EUR 7 million in the fourth quarter of 2021. As you can see in the bridge on the right, adjusted EBITDA was EUR 148 million, slightly above the fourth quarter of 2021 and in line with our prior guidance. Also, we extended our track record of consistent free cash flow generation with EUR 22 million in the quarter. Looking across our end markets, aerospace demand was very strong, with shipments up around 50% compared to last year for the third quarter in a row.

Automotive shipments were up double digits in the quarter versus last year, with new platform launches driving our growth. Packaging shipments were down in the quarter due to inventory adjustments across the channel at most can makers and operating challenges at our plants in Muscle Shoals, which, as we discussed last quarter, were in large part due to a shortage of experienced engineers and operators. While we are seeing signs of weakness across certain industrial markets, our industrial business overall performed well. The combination of improved mix, pricing power, and solid execution by our team in overcoming significant inflationary pressures drove our strong results, which Peter will discuss later in more detail. Now let's turn to slide 7 for the full year highlights. For the full year, shipments were 1.6 million tons or up slightly compared to 2021.

Revenue increased 32% to EUR 8.1 billion. This was primarily due to higher metal prices and improved price and mix. Our net income of EUR 308 million compares to net income of EUR 262 million in 2021. Adjusted EBITDA was EUR 673 million, or up 16% compared to last year. This performance is a record for the company and a record for our A&T and AS&I segments. We delivered our fourth consecutive year of positive free cash flow with a total of EUR 182 million in 2022, which was also a record for the company. As many of you recall, in April last year at our Analyst Day, we began reporting our return on invested capital, or ROIC, and said we would update our ROIC at the end of each calendar year.

For 2022, we achieved a ROIC of 11%, up 120 basis points from 9.8% in 2021. As you can see on the bottom right of the slide, we demonstrated our continuing commitment to deleveraging, ending the year at 2.8 times or down 0.6 times from the end of 2021. Overall, I'm very proud of our fourth quarter and full year 2022 performance. We demonstrated our pricing power by delivering record adjusted EBITDA and record free cash flow in 2022 despite significant inflationary pressures. With that, I will now hand the call over to Peter for further details on his financial performance. Peter?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Thank you, Jean-Marc, and thank you everyone for joining the call today. Please turn now to slide 9. Value-added revenue, or VAR, was EUR 696 million in the fourth quarter, up 18% compared to the same quarter last year. Looking at the fourth quarter, EUR 134 million of this increase was due to improved price mix in each of our segments. EUR 35 million of this increase was due to favorable FX translation tied to a stronger U.S. dollar. Volume was a headwind of EUR 27 million due to lower shipments in P&ARP. Finally, metal impacts were a headwind of EUR 37 million as inflation on input costs, such as hardeners and alloying elements, more than offset our scrap performance in the quarter. For the full year of 2022, VAR drivers were similar, except for volume, which was a positive contributor.

There are two important takeaways from this slide. First, we grew our Value-Added Revenue by 21% compared to last year. Second, we continue to have pricing power. Price and mix, and price specifically, is the biggest increment of our year-over-year variance and helped us to offset inflationary pressures. Turn to slide 10 and let's focus on our P&ARP segment performance. Adjusted EBITDA of EUR 71 million decreased 20% compared to the fourth quarter of 2021. Volume was a headwind of EUR 13 million, with higher shipments in automotive more than offset by lower shipments in packaging and specialty rolled products. Automotive shipments increased 20% in the quarter versus last year as new platforms began to ramp up and demand generally appeared stronger.

Packaging shipments decreased 12% in the quarter versus last year due to short-term inventory adjustments from our canned sheet customers in both North America and Europe and production challenges at Muscle Shoals. Price and mix was a tailwind of EUR 33 million, primarily on improved contract pricing, including inflation-related pass-throughs. Costs were a headwind of EUR 42 million as a result of higher operating costs due to inflation across P&ARP and higher maintenance costs at Muscle Shoals related to the shortage of experienced engineers and operators that Jean-Marc mentioned previously. Our Muscle Shoals team is highly dedicated, and we are working hard to recruit and train new hires, but this will take some time. FX translation, which is non-cash, was a tailwind of EUR 5 million in the quarter due to a stronger U.S. dollar.

For the full year of 2022, P&ARP generated adjusted EBITDA of EUR 326 million, a decrease of 5% compared to 2021. The drivers of the full year performance were similar to those in the fourth quarter. Turn to slide 11 and let's focus on the A&T segment. Adjusted EBITDA of EUR 56 million increased 87% compared to the fourth quarter of 2021. Volume was a tailwind of EUR 1 million, with higher aerospace shipments offsetting lower TID shipments. Aerospace shipments were up 50% versus last year as the recovery in aerospace markets continues. Shipments in TID were down 18% versus last year, partially offset by strong demand in defense and semiconductors.

Price and mix was a tailwind of EUR 64 million on improved contract pricing, including inflation-related pass-throughs and a stronger mix with more aerospace. The price and mix bucket in the fourth quarter of 2022 included a customer payment of EUR 8 million related to a contractual volume commitment. Costs were a headwind of EUR 38 million on higher operating costs due to inflation. For the full year 2022, A&T generated record adjusted EBITDA of EUR 217 million, an increase of 96% compared to 2021. The drivers of the full year performance were similar to those in the fourth quarter. As a reminder, the price and mix bucket for the full year included customer payments of EUR 18 million related to contractual volume commitments. One last point on A&T.

In the past, we have said EBITDA per ton for the segment should be in the EUR 700-EUR 800 range. Based on our contractual positions and the performance of the business, we now expect EBITDA per ton to be EUR 800-EUR 900. Turn to slide 12 and let's focus on the AS&I segment. Adjusted EBITDA of EUR 31 million was flat compared to the fourth quarter of 2021. Volume was a EUR 2 million tailwind, with higher shipments in automotive partially offset by lower industry shipments. Automotive shipments increased 8% in the quarter versus last year as we experienced some improvement in activity levels. Industry shipments were down 3% in the quarter versus last year. Price and mix was a EUR 15 million tailwind, primarily due to improved contract pricing, including inflation-related pass-throughs.

Costs were a headwind of EUR 18 million on higher operating costs, mainly due to inflation. For the full year 2022, AS&I generated record adjusted EBITDA of EUR 149 million, an increase of 5% compared to 2021. The drivers of the full year performance were similar to those in the fourth quarter. It is not on the slide, but I want to provide a quick comment on holdings and corporate. In the quarter, holdings and corporate was a headwind of EUR 8 million. The result was mainly due to timing and a number of one-off adjustments in the quarter. For the full year 2022, our holdings and corporate expense was EUR 19 million, and we continue to expect holdings and corporate expense to run at approximately EUR 20 million per annum.

Now turn to slide 13, where I want to give an update on the current inflationary environment we are facing and our focus on pricing and cost control to offset these pressures. Throughout 2022, we were faced with broad-based and significant inflationary pressures, and we currently expect this to continue throughout 2023. As you know, we operate a pass-through business model, so we are not materially exposed to changes in the price of aluminum, our largest cost input. That said, metal and alloy supply remains tight today given smelter shutdowns and supply disruptions. We were able to resource our needs in 2022, and we currently expect to do so again in 2023, but at incremental costs. Labor and other non-metal costs will also be higher again this year, particularly European energy. I will go into more detail on energy in just a moment.

Given these cost pressures, we are working across a number of fronts to mitigate their impact on our results. Our business has delivered strong cost performance in 2022, and we continue our relentless focus on costs in 2023. Our recently announced Vision 2025 initiative is helping. Across the company, we are working to increase our efficiency, reduce our consumption of expensive inputs and lower our fixed costs. On the commercial side, many of our contracts have inflationary protections such as PPI inflators or surcharge mechanisms, and where they do not, we are working with our customers to include them. As we have mentioned in the past, these surcharge mechanisms typically have a lag impact, but they do provide an effective mechanism through which we can recoup our costs.

Where we are signing new contracts, they are coming at better pricing and a range of inflationary protections. As you can see in the bridge on the right, in 2022, we were very successful with price and mix, the largest increment being price in offsetting inflationary pressures. 2022 was a very challenging year from the standpoint of inflationary cost pressures that ran close to EUR 300 million. Looking forward to this year, we expect the inflationary pressures in 2023 to be comparable to 2022. We continue to believe that we will be able to offset most of this cost pressure in 2023 and the rest in future periods with a combination of the tools we noted and our relentless focus on cost control.

The net impact of inflation and other cost increases and actions we are taking to offset them are included in our guidance for 2023. Turn to slide 14, where I want to give an update on energy. Our total energy costs over the 2019 to 2021 period averaged around EUR 150 million per annum. In 2022, our total energy costs were around EUR 275 million. We expect total energy costs to be materially higher in 2023. Previously noted, we purchased energy on a multi-year rolling forward basis, which has helped us to mitigate some of the energy cost pressures and helped us to smooth out some of the steep increases in costs.

As of today, our 2023 energy costs are largely secured, but at higher average prices. As you can see in the charts on the right side of the slide, both electricity and gas forward prices in Europe have come down from their 2022 peaks, but still remain at 3 or more times historical averages. As we previously noted, we are in active dialogue with our customers on passing through these costs and have made very good progress across all of our end markets. During 2022, we initiated an energy call to action across our entire organization, and I'm happy to say that as a result, we have uncovered numerous opportunities to reduce our own consumption. More recently, several governments in Europe have discussed potential initiatives that could bring some relief to help offset higher energy prices.

These initiatives are still under development and at this stage, eligibility is uncertain and any potential benefit is difficult to quantify. Longer term, we, like others, see that structural solutions for European energy markets should be in place by 2025, including the restoration of existing energy sources, alternative source countries for natural gas, LNG imports, and increased use of renewable energy sources. We will continue to update you on developments impacting our total energy costs and our ability to recover or offset these higher costs. Let's now turn to slide 15 and discuss our free cash flow. We generated record free cash flow of EUR 182 million in 2022, including EUR 22 million in the fourth quarter. As you can see on the bottom left of the slide, we have continued to deliver on our commitment to generate consistent, strong free cash flow.

Since the beginning of 2019, we have generated EUR 650 million of free cash flow. Looking at 2023, we expect to generate free cash flow in excess of EUR 125 million for the full year, though this will be weighted more towards the second half. We expect CapEx to be between EUR 340 million and EUR 350 million this year, which includes higher spending on cost savings and growth projects that Jean-Marc will talk more about in a few moments. We expect cash interest of approximately EUR 120 million, which includes the impact of higher interest rates. We expect cash taxes of approximately EUR 30 million.

Lastly, we expect working capital to be a use of cash in the first half and a source of cash in the second half, and based on our current forecast, roughly neutral for the full year. Let's turn to slide 16 and discuss our balance sheet and liquidity position. At the end of the fourth quarter, our net debt of EUR 1.9 billion declined slightly compared to the end of 2021, as free cash flow generation was partially offset by unfavorable non-cash FX translation of EUR 64 million with the strengthening of the U.S. dollar. Our leverage reached a multi-year low of 2.8x at the end of 2022 or down 0.6x versus the end of 2021.

We remain committed to achieving our leverage target of 2.5x and maintaining our long-term target leverage range of 1.5x-2.5x. As you can see in our debt summary, we have no bond maturities until 2026, and our liquidity remains strong at EUR 709 million as of the end of 2022. We are very proud of the progress we have made on our capital structure and of the financial flexibility we are building. I will now hand the call back to Jean-Marc.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Thank you, Peter. Let's turn to slide 18 and discuss our current end market outlook, starting with packaging. In packaging, we have experienced some short-term inventory adjustments at can makers in both North America and Europe, but we believe this should be largely complete during the first half of the year. The focus on sustainability is driving increased demand for infinitely recyclable aluminum cans, and we are confident in the long-term outlook for this end market given can maker capacity additions in both regions, as well as recent announcements of greenfield investments here in North America. We will participate in this growth in both North America and Europe, as we announced at our Analyst Day last year. As Peter noted, the company is highly focused on stabilizing the operating challenges we have been experiencing at Muscle Shoals so that we can take advantage of these end market dynamics.

Our issues at the plant stem primarily from the labor shortages you have read about. We are very confident in our ability to restore the plant's profitability over the course of 2023. Turning now to automotive. OEM sales and production numbers globally are still at a low base compared to pre-COVID levels, with uncertainty continuing as a result of the semiconductor shortage and other supply chain challenges. We remain very positive on this market, and increased demand in both P&ARP and AS&I gives us reason for optimism. Automotive inventories are low. Consumer demand remains high. Vehicle electrification and sustainability trends will continue to increase the demand for lightweighting and low CO2 recycled content. Let's turn now to aerospace.

The recovery in aerospace continued in the quarter with shipments up 50% versus last year for the third quarter in a row, though still well below pre-COVID levels. Major OEMs have announced build rate increases in the short term and the desire for further increases in the medium term. We remain confident that the long-term fundamentals driving aerospace demand remain intact, including growing passenger traffic and greater demand for new, more fuel-efficient aircraft. In addition, demand is strong in the business regional jet segment, defense, and space markets as well. As the chart on the left side of the page highlights, these three core end markets represent 76% of our LTM revenue. We like the fundamentals in each of these markets, and as I have said previously, we like our hands. Turning lastly to other specialties.

While we do see some weakness in segments like general engineering plate and building and construction, early 2023 demand remains solid in many of our specialties and markets. Demand has been more resilient in North America than in Europe. In general, these other markets are dependent upon the health of the industrial economies in each region. In TID rolled products, demand remains strong in markets like semiconductors and defense, and in transportation in North America. In industry extrusions, demand is still strong in sectors like solar and rail. It is also of note that many of the sustainability trends supporting growth in our core markets are very much at play here as well in other specialties. In summary, we continue to like the prospects for the end markets we serve and strongly believe that the diversification of our end markets is an asset for the company.

Let's turn to slide 19, where I want to provide more details on our plans to invest organically in our future. As we outlined previously, we are increasing our growth CapEx for the next few years to invest in highly strategic, high return cost savings and growth projects. As Peter mentioned before, our total CapEx this year should be around EUR 350 million, and includes roughly EUR 150 million for these attractive growth investments. Our performance over the last several years across varying business conditions, coupled with our strong financial position today, give us confidence to continue investing. We expect to continue to generate strong free cash flow through this investment cycle. The strategic investments we are making today are important contributors to our adjusted EBITDA target of over EUR 800 million by 2025.

Lastly, I want to mention that in a sharply deteriorating environment, the pace of investment could be slowed. While we are not planning for this outcome today, we will continue to monitor the situation and make any necessary adjustments to the timing of these investments. Let's turn now to slide 20. Before I wrap up, I would like to thank Peter, who will be leaving Constellium at the end of March for an exciting opportunity at Commercial Metals. I will miss you, Peter. You've been a very good partner. I also want to congratulate Jack Guo on his promotion to Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Peter has been a great partner, and he's made significant contributions to our company, including building a strong team from which we were able to promote Jack.

Jack has been with the company for over 6 years and most recently has done a tremendous job running our strategy function. Prior to this, he had already 2 decades of finance experience that included investment banking and operational finance. He brings to the role exceptional intelligence, strong knowledge of the company and the industry, and a well-rounded set of finance experiences. I have worked very closely with Jack on numerous projects, and I'm very excited to welcome him into this new role, and I look forward to working even more closely with you, Jack. Turning back to Constellium, our team achieved very strong performance in 2022. We delivered record adjusted EBITDA of EUR 673 million and record free cash flow of EUR 182 million. Importantly, we also further deleveraged our balance sheet to a multi-year low of 2.8 times.

I am very proud of our entire team as it delivered solid operational performance and strong cost control despite a number of challenges, including significant inflationary pressures. Looking forward, 2023 will be another challenging year given the extraordinary inflationary pressures we are facing. We are used to it. As Peter noted, we are currently expecting comparable inflationary pressures in 2023 to those we experienced in 2022. We remain confident in our ability to pass through most of these costs in 2023 and the rest in future periods. Based on our current outlook for 2023, we are targeting adjusted EBITDA of EUR 640 million-EUR 670 million and free cash flow in excess of EUR 125 million.

We do not give quarterly guidance, but given the destocking in packaging, the operating challenges in Muscle Shoals, and the timing of inflationary impacts on our business, we do expect adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter of 2023 to be weaker than the same period last year and free cash flow to be negative in the quarter. These expectations are obviously included in our full year guidance that I just provided. As inflationary pressures subside, we believe we will emerge an even stronger company. Our business model provides a strong foundation for long-term success, and we believe we have substantial opportunities to grow our business and enhance profitability and returns.

We have a diversified portfolio, and our end market positioning will enable us to take advantage of sustainability-driven secular growth trends such as consumer preference for infinitely recyclable aluminum cans, lightweighting in transportation, and the electrification of the automotive fleet. Constellium team has demonstrated its resilience and ability to execute across a range of different market conditions, and I am confident we'll continue to do so. I also want to reiterate our long-term guidance of adjusted EBITDA in excess of EUR 800 million by 2025, and our target leverage range of 1.5 to 2.5 times. Let me add, this guidance is based on the current energy positions that we have, including higher forward energy prices as of today. We remain focused on executing our strategy, driving operational performance, generating free cash flow, achieving our ESG objectives and shareholder value creation.

In conclusion, I remain very optimistic about our future, and with that, Bailey, we will open the Q&A session.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press Star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, please press Star followed by one. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. The first question today comes from the line of Emily Chieng from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Emily Chieng
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Good morning, Jean-Marc and Peter. Congratulations on the new opportunity there. My first question is just around the EBITDA guidance that you've provided for 2023, the EUR 640 million-EUR 670 million, I think is down only slightly below 2022 levels, which I think was a little bit more of an improvement versus the guidance that was talked to at the last quarter call. Maybe, Jean-Marc, if you could help bridge, you know, what has changed versus your prior quarter's expectations there. Has there been anything from the energy cost side coming down that you might see flowing through into the back end of this year that's been helping out?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Yeah. Good morning, Emily, and thanks for your question. Yes, we feel more comfortable now, and there's a number of reasons for that. It is true that we believe our prospects are brighter than what we believed they would be back in October. The reason for that is number one, we have more clarity in our order book for the year. Number two, we have also much more clarity in terms of pricing. There's obviously a contract season in the fall in October. We're kind of halfway through it. Now we're complete. We've got much better visibility on our pricing for the year. Number three, as you pointed out, we got a little bit lucky with energy prices. They came down with a mild winter in Europe, so that's helping as well.

These three are helping us, you know, converge towards that range of guidance we're giving today, and we feel again, more comfortable today than we did back in October.

Emily Chieng
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. That's very helpful, Jean-Marc. A follow-up, if I may. I know you've talked about a little bit of additional capital that will be spent to help support some of the operations there, and with some of the growth CapEx there. You also mentioned that that pace could be slowed in a more adverse operating environment. Perhaps could you define what that adverse environment could look like and what the flex would be on capital spending?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Sure. Clearly it's a remote possibility, but we want to highlight that there is a... We've got quite a bit of flex in our ability to flex CapEx, and we've demonstrated it in the COVID times when we brought down capital expenditures by EUR 100 million whilst COVID hit really in March of 2020, right? Already a lot of projects were already launched. Despite this, we're able to reduce our capital expenditures by EUR 100 million in the year. I think that gives you a little bit of an idea of how much flex there is. You know, 12 months out, you can reduce by EUR 100 million and then, you know, possibly even more if it's for longer.

I mean, what we've demonstrated in the past is our ability to thrive in very different environments, right? When there is a sharp reduction in demand, like in COVID times, when there's a strong pickup, when the business is more stable. This is a business that generates substantial and consistent free cash flow. We think the fundamentals of our business are strong, and that's why we want to continue to invest to the extent we can and our balance sheet allows it in the future of the business. It would take a very significant downturn in the economy for us to change our plans regarding CapEx deployment.

Again, we're in it for the long run and, you know, 2025 is nearly around the corner, and we want to make sure that we are able to seize the opportunities, the many opportunities we have ahead of us. Finally, I'll add that a lot of the investments we're talking about, some that are going to contribute to our negative free cash flow in the first quarter are the investments we're making in recycling, especially in Neuf-Brisach, France. These are defensive investments at the same time as they expand our margins, they make us more independent from primary suppliers. It's better for the planet. We want to do those things come hell or high water, I would say.

Emily Chieng
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Understood. That's very clear. Thank you.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Curt Woodworth from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Curt Woodworth
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Yeah. Thank you. Good morning, Jean-Marc and Peter. Peter, congratulations on the new role.

Emily Chieng
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Good morning, Curt.

Curt Woodworth
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Hi. I was wondering if you could unpack the guidance a little bit. You know, I think you did say you're still expecting over EUR 100 million of energy inflation. In the past, you noted, at least EUR 100 million, I think, of labor and other sort of, you know, consumable-related inflation. You know, what are you assuming in terms of price cost delta for the year? Then do you also have a view of how much productivity or cost down you could achieve as well?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

As we look at inflation for the, for the full year 2023, Curt, what we said in the prepared remarks was that we expected it to be similar to what we saw this year, or sorry, last year in 2022, and that was in the order of EUR 300 million. We're expecting that order of magnitude. That includes, as you noted, higher energy costs. That includes, you know, higher metal costs, and that's really, you know, kind of alloying costs. It does include higher labor costs. Labor is, you know, up more than it was in 2022. You know, supplies in general across the portfolio. All of that will add up to a, you know, roughly a EUR 300 million increase.

We believe that we're going to be able to pass through most of that, as Jean-Marc said, and I said in the prepared remarks, we have pricing power. One of the things that's been gratifying, and to Emily's question on, you know, why we were more conservative in October, we are right in the front end of this discussion around energy with customers. We've had very good success through the contract season. I think what becomes clear is that our customers, they want us to be their suppliers 'cause we're reliable and they need the material. Therefore, they're willing to work with us on this.

We've had good success, and as we did in 2022, we expect to pass through most of that, to our customers or in 2023 or beyond, right? There are some instances where we said there's a lag and that remains the case. In terms of our costs, I think we, you know, we continue to grind our costs down, and we'll continue to do that, in Muscle Shoals, clearly with some of the challenges there, our costs are elevated relative to where they would be. I think that's temporary. We feel like the programs we have in place, the productivity, improvements, targets that we have in place are gonna lead us to a very competitive cost position.

We'll continue to work on costs. Maybe just to conclude, we, you know, on the Analyst Day, we talked about a EUR 50 million cost opportunity, and we continue to see that as very, very viable.

Curt Woodworth
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Makes sense. A follow-up, I guess, with respect to, you know, P&ARP profitability and margins. You know, they definitely came in, you know, weaker than we had anticipated, certainly in the back half of the year, you know, roughly I think EUR 290 a metric ton. In the past, you know, we've discussed auto profitability, I believe, in kind of the EUR 500-600 level. I thought that packaging with the contract resets was kind of moving more up to definitely above EUR 300. Can you kind of talk to what you think margin per ton and P&ARP, you know, could look like this year on a, on a more normalized basis? Obviously, it's great to see you take the A&T margin target up by EUR 100.

Just curious what's going on in P&ARP, if you could unpack that a little bit.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Sure. I'll start and Peter will continue. On the auto side in P&ARP, we are very comfortable with the levels of margin we discussed in the past, and that's what's happening right now. We're good there. The shortfall, which you pointed to, is mainly on the packaging side, comes from the packaging side. Remember that in packaging, we've had difficulties at Muscle Shoals, as we've discussed. Also we have been squeezed last year. There is a lag in terms of our ability to pass through inflationary pressures. A lot of that has to do with the way the PPI works, where you look at the prior year and you know, you increase your price the following year.

Also, as we discussed a couple of years ago, the alloy surcharges started being implemented only this year, but only partially. Sorry, last year, but only partially. There has been a margin squeeze also in packaging because of those two factors, the alloying cost and the PPI fundamentals. Looking forward, the PPI and the inflation are passed through in 2023. The alloys are passed through in 2023, and the lag should be largely resolved. That said, we still have to restore operating performance at Muscle Shoals, and that is what we're working on this year. As I mentioned, it's mostly because of lack of experience resources, and that takes time to build. We believe that over the course of 2023, we will restore profitability at Muscle Shoals, and therefore in packaging.

Those three causes, right, the PPI, the alloys, and, you know, inexperienced labor should be resolved by the end of 2023.

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

The only, the only thing I'd add to that is that, remember, we talk about this inventory correction across packaging, that's going on among our customers. You can imagine with the reduction in the tonnage across the business unit, it reduces our ability to leverage our fixed costs.

Curt Woodworth
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

What do you think a more normalized-

Margin level is, I think in the past you've talked about, I think closer to EUR 400, but could you update us on what you think, you know, a more fully economic level would look like for that division? Or is it too difficult to say right now?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Certainly north of EUR 300, we should be able to be north of EUR 300. I think, maybe something in the order of EUR 325-350 is a good place to start. You know, if you have automotive pulling at full strength, maybe there's some opportunity beyond that, we'd leave it there for now.

Curt Woodworth
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you.

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Corinne Blanchard from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Corinne Blanchard
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Good morning, Jean-Marc and Peter. First question from me would be, hi, would be on EBITDA cadence. Do you expect a higher seasonality to happen this year, especially 1Q and maybe going into 2Q because of packaging versus previous year?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Well, what you should expect to see is that Q1 is gonna be weaker than it usually is. That would be contrary to the seasonality that we usually see. Usually, our first two quarters are the strongest. We should see a weaker Q1, a recovering Q2. Obviously Q3 and Q4, hopefully we're, you know, back on track.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Remember, typically, PPI adjustments take place very often on the first of April. We are still pricing in some segments at prices that yet do not reflect yet the spike in inflation of last year, but they will starting April.

Corinne Blanchard
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thank you. Then maybe two quick follow-up. The first one on aerospace margins. Similar to the previous question, if you can unpack or if you can give a little bit more color on, I think you mentioned like 800 to 900, is that really coming just from aerospace or is it also like, transportation, so TID, impact for that?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Yeah. I think it's based essentially on better performance in our plans and better pricing as well. We look at it, you know, across the cycle, right? If you're in a time when aerospace is very strong and the rest of TID is lower, then, you know, it's drifting up, if it's the other way around and TID is strong, but aerospace is at a bottom, then it's drifting a little bit lower.

Corinne Blanchard
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, thank you. Just the last one from me. Can you remind us, the energy contract? Most of it is locked, and you would renegotiate in September, October. How much of the energy cost is kind of like spot exposed? Is that 25%, 20%?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

How much? What was it?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Yeah. I'm not sure we fully understood the question, but try to answer. Going into 2023 today, about 90% of our energy needs are locked in, hedged. Okay? Essentially physically or, you know, through supply contracts, some derivatives as well. You know, since we do it on a rolling 3-year basis, we have to renew 25% roughly, 25%-30% of our needs over the course of the year. Splits of the hedges for, you know, is 2024 and 2025.

Corinne Blanchard
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Timna Tanners from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Timna Tanners
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wolfe Research

Hey, Great. Good morning. Congrats on the opportunity, Peter. We'll talk to you on the other side. wanted to ask a couple questions. One, maybe this is a dumb question, but in inventory adjustments, It just seems like a euphemism for something. Like, what exactly does that mean? Do you not have protection from contracts? Is that something more onerous in terms of underlying demand? I'd just love to get some more color on that, on the packaging side.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Hi, Tim. I'll take this one. There's excess inventory of cans and coils in the system compared to demand. There's a number of reasons for that, like in the summer, the lack of promotion activities at the beverage companies, which, you know, typically there is, people start to stock up, it doesn't happen, the supply chain slows down. There's been also a period of high growth after, you know, 20 years of markets being essentially flat. You have 3 years at +5%. People expect that the following year is gonna be also at +5%, you got a war, you got inflation, people spend less money, buy less product. You expect to have promotions, you don't have promotions.

All of a sudden, the supply chain gets, you know, full with metal, and it takes time to resolve that. Our contracts typically provide for a fixed amount of tons, but there is some variation around it. I will not go into the specific details, but let's say, you know, plus 5%, plus 10%, or minus 5%, 10%. When everybody is, you know, pulling below, then you can have and that happens, you know. If that variance is, say, over the course of 1 year, but it materializes over the course of 6 months, then obviously that creates a big swing in what demand is, and people are still within their contracts. I think that's what we're seeing. That's why also fundamentally this is a reasonably stable market.

There is not that much floor space on the shelves or in the warehouses to have full cans or empty cans. It will resolve reasonably quickly, and that's why we believe in our and through our discussions with our customers, we're confirming that by the end of the first, you know, half of this year, things will be back to normal.

Timna Tanners
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wolfe Research

No, that's helpful. I guess I'm wondering if this is a sign of just slowing demand after very strong COVID activity. I mean, do you see anything structurally weaker in the packaging outlook? Just obviously there's more cans and adoption of greater cans, but did maybe the market get ahead of itself and it needs to adopt maybe a slower growth outlook?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Well, I wouldn't revise the growth outlook, but I think the, you know, the COVID, the spike in consumption took everybody by surprise, and people got maybe a little bit too excited about it. Fundamentally, you see more and more categories moving to cans. I mean, I don't know if you've noticed in your, you know, going to the grocery store or your travels, you start to see flat water in cans and bottles, and that's a very good sign for us because there's a tremendous amount of plastic to displace. You know, when things grow, it's never linear, but I do believe that the growth trends for, in favor of metal against plastic are going to stay on for many, many, many years.

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Tim, to just one maybe to add to what Jean-Marc's saying. As we look at our forecast for packaging demand in 2023, we expect it's gonna grow. It's gonna grow at, you know, kind of low single digits, you know, probably 0%-2% type of thing, type of range. Longer term, I think we're in line with what the can makers are saying, which is somewhere in a range of, you know, kind of 2%-5% is probably the right way to bracket it, and that feels right to us.

Timna Tanners
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay, that's great. If I could squeeze one more in, just how good is your visibility on Europe? I'm asking kind of, if things were to start to recover there, when would you start to see it? How well locked in are you? kind of more color on what you're seeing in Europe would be great. Thank you.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Yeah. I mean, depending on the products, our lead times are, you know, 6 weeks to 6 months, right? In aerospace, there's some that take a long time, products that take a long time to make. I think we've got pretty good visibility for 2023 for over 75% of our business there. I mean, aerospace is pretty locked in. Automotive, I mean, the signs are quite encouraging. Packaging, you know, even though it's flat-ish, as Peter Matt mentioned, I think we've got a pretty decent visibility because those inventory corrections really are not going to last longer than the first half of the year. I think we've got decent visibility in Europe for 75% of our business, roughly.

I don't know if I'm answering fully your question, but feel free to follow up if not.

Timna Tanners
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wolfe Research

Wait, when you say decent visibility, you mean for the full 2023 timeframe?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Correct. Yeah.

Timna Tanners
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay, great. Thank you.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Karl Blunden from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Karl Blunden
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Hi. Thanks very much for the time and congratulations to Peter and Jack on the new roles. Yeah, I wanted to talk just about the 2025 guidance and then certainly good to hear the reiteration there of over EUR 800. Is it fair to say that can demand and energy costs have come in more challenging and perhaps the outlook is a bit more challenging than when that guidance was initially adopted? I'd be interested to hear what the offsets are giving you confidence on that longer term guide. You know, presumably a few things going better than expected-

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Sure.

Karl Blunden
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Love to hear what those are?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Sure. Karl, if I go back to what we thought in April of last year when we gave that more than 800 million guidance, I think can is a big challenge now, but I don't think it is that much by 2025. If anything, the volumes may be a bit lower, but the pricing is better. Overall in can, I'd say it's even. Energy prices are definitely higher. We offset that by increased pricing and better efficiencies in our plants as well. I'm quite encouraged by the early progress we're making. There's nothing like lighting a fire under us to get us moving, for sure. In aerospace, we are, you know, we were really at the beginning of the recovery last year. It's come stronger.

Maybe there is some upside in aerospace on our 2025 guidance, and automotive is steadier compared to our projections of last year. Finally, on the cost side, I mean, it's, you know, our costs are much higher because of inflation, obviously, than what we thought they would be. At the same time, I think our productivity and our progress in Vision 2025 gives us good confidence. Since, you know, the inflation is passed through and our productivity could be better, I think we got some upside. All in all, can in the same place, automotive in the same place, aero maybe some upside, and on the productivity cost side, maybe some upside.

Karl Blunden
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

That's, that's really helpful. Thanks. Just a quick one on the balance sheet. You know, you've done a lot of good work there in deleveraging and approaching the high end of that target range. Should we think of Constellium as interested in notional debt reduction, or should we think about your leverage target being achieved primarily through EBITDA growth from here?

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

We want to pay down debt also.

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

It'll be both. It'll be both. We wanna reduce-

Karl Blunden
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Great

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

gross debt. Our EBITDA is gonna grow too.

Karl Blunden
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Fantastic. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one. Our next question today comes from the line of Liam O'Carroll from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Liam O'Carroll
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hello. Yeah, thanks. Peter, good luck in the new role. You've touched on this multiple times here, so but let me just do a little clarification on the lower packaging volumes. I think you said 12% in Q4. You know, that's gonna contribute to the lower EBITDA performance in Q1. You still think that where you stand today, that continues into Q2 as well, and are they similarly double-digit sorts of declines in terms of volumes in that end segment?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Yeah. Yes, on Q1. It'll be lower in Q1. As we get into Q2, we think we should be starting to recover. We're kind of calling the trough somewhere around where we are today.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

We think-

Liam O'Carroll
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

The full year should be about the same or maybe a bit better than last year.

Liam O'Carroll
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you. Again, you've already partially addressed this, but the higher cost, the roughly EUR 300 million in total, there was some mention of in one of the questions about energy comprising over EUR 100 million, but you didn't attach a specific figure to, you know, the breakdown between energy, labor, the higher material, alloying or supply costs. Fair to say, though, that energy will still be the largest component of that EUR 300 million basket, year-on-year above the sort of EUR 275 million expense that the group spent in 2022.

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

That is fair. That is fair. Remember, we have a piece of our energy that's still open, you know, hopefully that'll continue to be an opportunity for us.

Liam O'Carroll
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Related to that on, just in terms of supply, access to metal, no problems at all in terms of that at this point?

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

No. No problem with access to metal. I mean, we.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

It's a lot of work.

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Yeah.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

It's so far so good, and we don't see a problem.

Liam O'Carroll
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sorry. Understood. Thank you very much.

Peter Matt
CFO, Constellium

Yeah.

Operator

Thank you. There are no additional questions waiting at this time, so I'd like to pass the conference back over to Jean-Marc Germain, CEO of Constellium. Please go ahead when you're ready.

Jean-Marc Germain
CEO, Constellium

Thank you, Bailey. As you can tell, we're very happy with our performance in 2022. We look forward with a lot of confidence to our performance of 2023. I wanna wish good luck to Peter. That's not his last day with us, far from it. We still have the benefit of his presence for quite a few weeks. I look forward to updating you on our progress when we release our Q1 results at the end of April. Thank you. Have a good day all.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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