Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Third Quarter 2021 CVB Financial Corporation and its subsidiary Citizens Business Bank Earnings Conference Call. My name is Catherine, and I'll be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer period. Please note, this call is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Christina Carabino. Please proceed.
Thank you, Catherine, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to review our results for the Q3 of 2021. Joining me this morning are Dave Brager, Chief Executive Officer and Alan Nicholson, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our comments today will refer to the financial information that was included in the earnings announcement released yesterday. To obtain a copy, please visit our website at www.cbbank.com and click on the Investors tab.
While the COVID-nineteen pandemic has receded from peak levels since over seen over the past year and business conditions continue to improve as the U. S. Economy reopens. The pandemic is still ongoing and more contagious and virulent variants of the COVID-nineteen virus have surfaced spread throughout the U. S, including in the company's markets in California.
As a result, the COVID-nineteen pandemic may still carry the potential to significantly affect the banking industry in California and the company's business prospects. The ultimate impact on our business and financial results and on the health and safety of our employees will depend on future developments, which are uncertain and cannot be predicted, including the infectious and pathogenic properties of COVID-nineteen variants as they develop, the safety, effectiveness, distribution and public acceptance of vaccines developed to mitigate the pandemic and actions taken by governmental authorities in response to the pandemic. The speakers on this call claim the protection of the Safe Harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 19 5. For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forward looking statements, Please see the company's annual report on Form 10 Q for the year ended December 31, 2020, and in particular, the information set forth in Item 1A, risk factors therein. Now, I will turn the call over to Dave Brager.
Dave?
Thank you, Christina. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. We reported net earnings $49,800,000 for the Q3 of 2021 or $0.37 per share, representing our 178th consecutive quarter of profitability. We previously declared an $0.18 per share dividend for the Q3 of 2021, which represented our 128th consecutive quarter of paying a cash dividend to our shareholders.
3rd quarter net earnings of $49,800,000 or 0.3 $0.07 per share compares with $51,200,000 for the Q2 of 2021 or $0.38 per share and $47,500,000 for the year ago quarter or $0.35 per share. Through the 1st 9 months of 2021, we earned 100 and $4,800,000 or $1.21 per share compared with $127,100,000 or $0.93 per share for the 1st 9 months of 2020. For the Q3 of 2021, our pre tax pre provision income was $65,700,000 compared with $69,700,000 for the prior quarter $66,900,000 for the year ago quarter. The Q3 included relatively strong core loan growth as well as strong credit metrics and a declining allowance for credit losses. In addition, greater than 99% of our customers' $1,100,000,000 in PPP Round 1 loans were forgiven as of quarter end.
We recorded a recapture provision for credit losses of $4,000,000 for the Q3 of 2021. And in comparison, we recorded capture provision for credit losses of $2,000,000 for the Q2 of 2021. The recapture provision was primarily the result of our forecast continuing improvements in macroeconomic variables, including GDP growth and decreasing unemployment. For the 9 months ended September 30, 2021, we recaptured $25,500,000 of provision for credit losses, which reverses the $23,500,000 in provision expense recorded during the 1st 9 months of 2020. During the Q3, we had net loan recoveries of $22,000 compared with net charge offs of $463,000 for the Q2 of 2021 $114,000 for the year ago quarter.
At quarter end, non performing assets defined as non accrual loans plus other real estate owned were $8,400,000 equal to the prior quarter and approximately $9,000,000 lower than year end 2020. At quarter end, we had no OREO properties and the $8,400,000 in non performing loans represented 11 basis points of total loans. At September 30, 2021, we had loans delinquent 30 days to 89 days of $1,100,000 compared with $415,000 at June 30, 2021. Classified loans for the Q3 were $49,800,000 equal to the prior quarter and approximately $23,000,000 lower than year end 2020. Now moving on to loans.
Our loan production continued to be strong in the Q3 and our current loan pipeline remains robust. Total loans at quarter end were $7,850,000,000 Core loans excluding PPP loans grew by $105,000,000 or approximately six percent annualized when compared to the 2nd quarter. When including PPP loan forgiveness, our loans decreased by $222,000,000 Loan growth in the 3rd quarter was led by continued growth in commercial real estate loans, which grew by $64,000,000 compared to the end of the second quarter and by $233,000,000 year to date. C and I loans and dairy and livestock loans also grew by approximately $20,000,000 each compared to the Q2. As we look at core loan trends over the past year, CRE loan growth has continued to be strong with an increase of $306,000,000 were almost 6% from the Q3 of 2020 to the Q3 of 2021.
In addition, our dairy and livestock loans have grown by 30 $2,000,000 or 15% over the past year. C and I loans, however, continue to be impacted by low utilization rates, which is the primary driver of the decline in C and I loans, which declined $47,000,000 in comparison to the Q3 of 2020. C and I utilization rates were 27% on average in the 3rd quarter, which compares to the pre pandemic level of 39% in the Q1 of 2020 and 28% for the Q3 of 2020. Single family mortgage loans have been declining due to high refinance activity from the low rate environment resulting in a year over year decrease of $43,000,000 Construction loans were $77,000,000 at the end of the quarter, which is lower than recent quarters and almost $25,000,000 lower than a year ago. We continue to remain optimistic that we can grow loans during the Q4 of 2021 excluding the impact of PPP loan forgiveness in the seasonal dairy and livestock advances as we strive to overcome headwinds from low line utilization rates and continued higher prepayment activity.
Through September 30, 2021 of the over 4,000 PPP loans we originated during round 1, more than 99% of our borrowers representing more than $1,000,000,000 in loans have received forgiveness from the SBA. Of the $420,000,000 of loans originated in PPP Round 2, we had remaining loans outstanding of $287,000,000 as September 30, 2021. Now I would like to discuss our deposits. At September 30, 2021, our non interest bearing deposits were $8,300,000,000 compared with $8,070,000,000 for the prior quarter and 6 point 9 $2,000,000,000 for the year ago quarter. Non interest bearing deposits remain a key differentiator for the bank with over 64% of our deposits being non interest bearing at the end of the quarter.
Furthermore, by executing on our long term strategy of banking the best small to medium sized businesses and their owners in our markets, the bank is completely funded by core deposits. We continue to see strong deposit growth for the 3rd quarter as total deposits and customer repurchase agreements increased by $343,000,000 or 3 percent from the Q2 of 2021 at $1,900,000,000 or 17 percent higher than the prior year. At September 30, 2021, our total deposits in customer repurchase agreements were $13,600,000,000 compared with $13,200,000,000 at June 30, 2021 $11,700,000,000 for the same period a year ago. Average non interest bearing deposits were $8,000,000,000 for the Q3 of 2021 compared with $7,700,000,000 for the prior quarter $6,700,000,000 for the year ago quarter. Our average total deposits and customer repurchase agreements of $13,300,000,000 for the 3rd quarter grew by $417,000,000 were 3% from the 2nd quarter.
Our net interest income declined this quarter as our net interest margin declined to 2.89%. Net interest income before recapture provision for credit losses was $103,300,000 for the 3rd quarter compared with $105,400,000 for the 2nd quarter and $103,300,000 from the year ago quarter. Earning assets grew by $471,000,000 on average from the 2nd quarter, including a $187,000,000 increase in investment securities and more than $600,000,000 increase in average funds on deposit at the Federal Reserve. Average loans for the Q3 decreased by $333,000,000 compared with the Q2 of 2021, while decreasing by $466,000,000 compared with the year ago quarter. During the Q3 of 2021, PPP loans had an average balance of $502,000,000 compared with 8 $38,000,000 for the Q2 of 2021.
Our earning asset yield decreased by 19 basis points compared to the prior quarter. 45% of our earning assets are in a combination of liquid investments and cash on deposits at the Federal Reserve. Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 2.89 percent for the Q3 of 2021 compared with 3.06% for the 2nd quarter and 3.34 percent for the Q3 of 2020. When the impact of PPP loans, discount accretion on acquired loans and non accrual interest paid is excluded, our adjusted tax equivalent net interest margin was 2.68% for the 3rd quarter, down from 2.89% for the prior quarter and 3.18% for the year ago quarter. Our net interest margin continued to be negatively impacted by excess liquidity.
During the Q3, we had approximately $2,300,000,000 on average on deposit at the Federal Reserve earning 15 basis points. The net interest margin in the 3rd quarter would have been approximately 56 basis points higher without the $2,300,000,000 on average on deposit at the Federal Reserve. We continue to be asset sensitive as noted in our June 30, Form 10Q. If rates were to ramp up over 200 basis points over a 12 month time horizon, our net interest income would grow by approximately 21%. Loan yields were 4.43% in the Q3 of 2021 compared with 4.46 percent for the Q2 of 2021 and 4.47% for the year ago quarter.
Total interest and fee income from PPP loans was $7,900,000 in the 3rd quarter compared to $8,100,000 in the 2nd quarter. The decrease in loan yields from the year ago quarter was partly due to the impact of the Federal Reserve rate decreases on our core loan yields, the impact of PPP loans as well as a decline in discount accretion income on acquired loans. Excluding the impact of PPP loans, interest income related to purchase discount accretion and non accrual interest paid, loan yields were 4.14% for the Q3 of 2021, 4.3% for the Q2 of 2021 and 4.37% for the Q3 of 2020. Prepayment penalty income decreased by $1,400,000 quarter over quarter, while increasing by $243,000 compared with the year ago quarter. Our cost of deposits and customer repos as well as our cost of funds for the Q3 was 4 basis points.
Interest bearing deposits and customer repos increased on average by $124,000,000 from the 2nd quarter, but interest expense declined as the cost of interest bearing deposits and customer repurchase agreements decreased from 12 basis points in the 2nd quarter to 9 basis points in the 3rd quarter. Our cost of funds declined by 1 basis point from the prior quarter and 7 basis points compared to the Q3 of 2020. Moving to non interest excuse me, moving to non interest income. Non interest income was $10,500,000 for the Q3 of 2021 compared with $10,800,000 for the prior quarter and $13,200,000 for the year ago quarter. The Q3 of 2020 included a $1,700,000 gain on the sale of a bank owned building, our trust and investment service income decreased by approximately $500,000 or more than 15% compared with the prior quarter will be $276,000 or approximately 12% higher when compared with the year ago quarter.
Deposit service charges increased by 8% or $344,000 from the 2nd quarter and were higher than the Q3 of 2020 by 14% were $543,000 Fees from interest rate swaps were $167,000 for the 3rd quarter, which was $1,400,000 lower than a year ago. In July, we announced that we entered into a merger agreement with SunCrest Bank, pursuant to which SunCrest Bank will merge into Citizens Business Bank. We're excited to be joining forces with a successful bank that serves California's Central Valley as well as Sacramento, a sizable and important new market for our bank that presents additional growth opportunities. The closing of the merger is expected to occur at the end of the current quarter or the Q1 of 2022. Now on to expenses.
Non interest expense for the Q3 was $48,100,000 compared with $46,500,000 for the Q2 of 2021 $49,600,000 for the year ago quarter. We incurred $809,000 in acquisition related expenses. Salary and benefit expenses decreased by $905,000 compared to the Q2. The Q2 benefited from a one time adjustment to the benefit expense of approximately $1,000,000 marketing and promotion expense decreased by $942,000 compared to the Q2 of 2021, primarily due to the timing of donations made during the Q2 to community groups throughout our geographic footprint. Non interest expense also increased by $1,000,000 as we recaptured provision for unfunded loan commitments of $1,000,000 in the Q2 of 2021.
Non interest expense totaled 1.22 percent of average assets for the Q3 of 2021 compared with 1.23% for the Q2 of 2021 and 1.44% for the Q3 of 2020. Our efficiency ratio was 42.27 percent for the Q3 of 2021 compared with 40.05% for the prior quarter and 42.57 percent for the Q3 of 2020. I will now turn the call over to Alan Nicholson to discuss our effective tax rate, our allowance for credit losses, investments and capital levels. Alan?
Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everyone. Our effective tax rate was unchanged at 28.6 percent when compared to the Q2 of 2021 and 29% for the year ago quarter. Effective tax rate can vary depending on the level of tax advantaged income as well as available tax credits. Our allowance for credit losses decreased by $4,000,000 from the Q2 of 2021 as a result of the $4,000,000 recaptured provision for credit loss.
At September 30, 2021, our ending allowance for credit losses was $65,400,000 or 0.83 percent of total loans. When excluding PPP loans, our allowance as a percentage of the remaining loans was 0.87%, which compares to 0.91% at the pre pandemic period end of December 31, 2019. In addition to the allowance for credit losses, we had $21,000,000 in remaining fair value discounts from acquisitions at December 30, 2021. The recapture provision for credit loss was primarily the result of continued improvement in our forecast of certain macroeconomic variables, including the unemployment rate and GDP growth. For the 9 months ended September 30, 2021, we have recorded a recapture of provision for credit losses of $25,500,000 This compares to the provision for credit losses of 23 $500,000 we recorded in the first half of twenty twenty.
Due to the estimated impact on loan losses from the economic forecast of a significant downturn in the economy resulting from COVID-nineteen pandemic. Based on the magnitude of government economic The wide availability of vaccines, our latest economic forecast continues to reflect improvements in key macroeconomic variables and therefore lower projected loan losses, which resulted in a decrease in our allowance for credit losses to 65 point $4,000,000 Our economic forecast continues to be a blend of multiple forecasts produced by Moody's. These U. S. Economic forecasts include a baseline forecast as well as upside and downside forecasts with the largest weighting on the baseline.
Our weighted forecast assumes GDP will increase by 5.7% in 2021 and then grows by more than 2% in both 20222023. The unemployment rate is forecasted to be 5.7% in 2021 and then 5.6% in 2022 before declining to 5.3% in 2023. Looking at our investment portfolio, our total investment securities increased by approximately 6 $7,000,000 from the end of the second quarter. As of September 30, 2021, investment securities available for sale or AFS securities totaled $2,900,000,000 inclusive of a pre tax net unrealized gain of $8,800,000 Investment Securities held at maturity or HTM securities totaled approximately $1,700,000,000 at September 30. During the Q3, we purchased approximately $187,000,000 in new AFS securities with an expected tax equivalent yield of 1.49 percent $705,000,000 in new HTM securities with an expected tax equivalent yield of 1.75%.
Now turning to our capital position. For the 1st 9 months, shareholders' equity increased by $55,900,000 to $2,060,000,000 The increase was primarily due to net earnings of $164,800,000 a $32,300,000 decrease in other comprehensive income from the tax affected impact of the decrease in market value of available for sale securities and $73,400,000 in cash dividends. During the Q3, we repurchased 390,000 shares of common stock at an average price of $18.97 we terminated our 10b5-1 stock buyback plan on September 23 as a result of the company's prospective issuance of common stock related to the acquisition of SunCrest Bank. Our overall capital position continues to be very strong. Our tangible common equity ratio was 8.9 percent at the end of the Q3 and our regulatory capital ratios are well above regulatory requirements to be considered well capitalized.
At September 30, our common equity Tier 1 capital ratio was 14.9% and our total risk based capital ratio was 15.7%. I'll now turn the call back to Dave for some closing remarks.
Thank you, Alan. The Citizens Business Bank remains well positioned to take advantage the improving economic environment in California. According to various economic reports, many parts of the California economy have recovered to their pre pandemic levels. However, over the past 3 to 6 months, supply chain interruptions and labor shortages have impacted many of the businesses and industries that we serve. We continue to remain focused on assisting our customers with any negative impact of these issues on their businesses.
Our pretax pre provision earnings remain strong despite the impact of the low interest rate environment and prevailing lower line utilization rates due to strong customer liquidity. We believe that our net interest margin will increase in a rising rate environment and we are seeing the steady improvement in our loan pipeline from previous quarters translate into solid loan growth. We are excited about our announced acquisition of SunCrest Bank and the opportunities it provides to expand in the Sacramento market as well as to solidify our significant position in the Central Valley. Please stay healthy and safe. That concludes today's presentation.
Now Alan and I will be happy to take any questions that you might have.
Thank you. Our first question comes from Brett Rabatin with Hovde Group. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning everyone.
Good morning, Brad. Good morning.
I wanted to first ask just Looking at the balance sheet, can you talk maybe about the security purchases during the quarter, when those were done? And just thinking about 4Q, how much liquidity you might deploy and how we should think about the absolute level of NII, obviously 3Q was a margin compression story?
Sure. If you look at the point to point from June 30 to September 30 growth, That was about $667,000,000 but on an average balance perspective, we only grew by about $187,000,000 So that obviously reflects that some of those purchases happened later in the quarter. We were seeing better attractive yields as the quarter was coming to a close. So we'll continue to buy securities, but we'll continue to be very balanced. And I think we're sort of coming to the expectation that interest should be growing next year and then we certainly want to keep some of our powder dry to take advantage of that.
So, we'll continue to invest, but we're not going to turn the $300,000,000 into securities overnight.
Okay. Any color on The size you might do in the Q4?
It really will depend on where rates go.
We try to be very opportunistic in the marketplace when we see rates are rising and we'll continue to take that approach.
Okay. Fair enough. And then was curious, trust was a little bit softer this quarter. Was there any fundamental change there? Or can you maybe comment on trust in 3Q?
Yes, there wasn't any fundamental change. There was just a couple of things that happened in the Q2 that really sort of jumped those numbers up. But I think We have a big focus on trust and the opportunities there, especially with all of this X plus liquidity that's on our balance sheet. So We're very focused on continuing to grow that. No big issue, just some timing, some other things.
So, yes, the
fees that are driven off of the assets under management were
relatively flat, I should say.
And we do have some extra income in the Q2 when our customers pay for their taxes. So there's a little bit of noise sometimes in the Q2 as well.
Okay. And then just lastly for me, you talked about earlier the loan pipeline strengthening and obviously you had good core growth in 3Q from a couple of different aspects of the loan portfolio. Obviously, there's some seasonality with ag. Can you talk maybe about the outlook? Could you become more of a high single digit story from here and maybe how we should think about The loan growth prospects over the next year maybe?
Yes. I mean, we as I've said in the past, I mean, we actually have had 2 very strong years in a row of loan production. Last year was a record year for us. This year, our loan production is up over last year's production. We look to continue to have a strong Q4 here.
Our pipelines remain strong. So, we want to bank the best businesses. We bank the top 25% of clients in their respective industries and build long term relationships. So that pie, that amount of opportunity there is somewhat limited as evidenced by the credit quality we have. So I think in that range where we've been and where we ended the Q3 are probably fair.
So the mid range Single digits is probably where we are going to perform going forward. If we can get the best customers And grow faster, great, but we're not going to sacrifice credit quality to grow loans.
Okay. That's great color. Appreciate it.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Gary Tenner with D. A. Davidson. Your line is open.
Thanks. Good morning. Good morning.
Just a
couple of questions for me. In terms of the new loan production yields during the quarter, Alan, could you give us a sense of where those came in?
I mean, I would say, as we've talked about before, at a call it a coupon level, Gary, no fees, nothing like that. You're still looking at something in the $350,000,000 to $360,000,000 range. It's been fairly consistent.
Okay, great. And with regard to the $75,000,000 is that just a technical reason that you had to suspend it given the shares that will be issued. I guess ultimately my question is post SunCrest, it would seem that you'd still be continuing to build capital at pace that outpaces the organic growth needs. So once that deal settles, would you expect to be back in the market on buyback?
So it was a regulatory requirement for us to terminate it. And if you look back sort of through our history, probably going back to the last two acquisitions, when we've been issuing shares, we've had to terminate it. We typically put it back in place after those mergers have been completed. Certainly, the Board will evaluate that after we do the acquisition with SunCrest. So we'll see, but historically, yes, we have put those back in place.
Thanks very much.
Thank you. Our next question comes with comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning guys.
Good morning.
Maybe first one, do you happen to have the average PPP balance in the quarter?
I believe we Yes. Do you want to follow-up with another question? We'll get to you in a second.
Sure. Yes, it looks like your earning assets at the on an end of period basis are over $15,000,000,000 which bodes well for NII in the upcoming quarter. But your NIM, I would think, would take another leg down. What are your expectations on the NIM kind of stabilizing. I would think it would be the second half of next year with the additional PPP running off maybe over the next couple of quarters.
But what are your thoughts around the overall NIM?
Yes. I think there's a couple of different aspects To that, number 1, obviously, it depends on what happens with rates and the 10 year treasury has gone up a little bit. That's one of the indices that we price on. Obviously, depending on what happens with the Fed and raising rates. The excess liquidity, we're going to be cautious and we're going to invest.
Hopefully, we invest that in loans. But at the end of the day, We're also not going to just overload on the investment side. So I think that if we don't necessarily forecast where NIM is going to be, at least publicly forecast where we think our NIM is going to be. But I hope that we are in a position as we continue to grow loans and our customers utilize some of that excess liquidity that the NIM stabilizes. As I mentioned, I think we had an over 50, 5 basis point difference in our NIM based on just the $2,300,000,000 we had overnight at the Fed.
So some of that liquidity, our customers' liquidity starts to go away, we should be in a much better position. I think we have the number for the average PPP loans for you as well.
Yes, Matthew, net of deferred fees, we had about $502,000,000 on average in the 3rd quarter, which would compare to about $838,000,000 in the Q2 of this year.
Great.
And Matt, I'm sorry, just one quick addition to that. We've done a really outstanding job. I mean over 99% of PPP1 balances are gone. I think the national average is 70%. So our efficiency in getting those loans forgiven has created some of that excess liquidity too.
So We're happy that we were able to help our customers and get it done. And now we hope that as the economy opens up, they'll start to utilize some of that excess liquidity as well. So sorry, I just wanted to add that.
Great. And then just on your outlook for hiring additional producers, What's your outlook there? And how would you say the ones that you've hired over the last 12 to 18 months are contributing to loan growth we're seeing?
Yes. Right now we're focused on the integration and getting the SunCrest deal closed, which we're acquiring a number of producers and we believe that they're great people that will be able to contribute to the growth of our bank. So we're really focused on that right now. But to answer the second part of your question, the people that we have hired in the past 12 months, I think are doing a very good job. They've been a big part of why our loan production is up.
They've been a big part of why we've grown loans at a 6% clip annualized in the last quarter. So So I'm very opportunistic about what that looks for what that bodes going forward bodes well, I believe for us continue to see some positive loan growth. So they've done a good job.
Okay. And then last one for me, just around M and A. I guess how are your discussions with other banks going? Would you say it's been more active since you announced the SunCrest deal or less active?
That's a really good question. I think it's been about the same, maybe slightly more active. We obviously have proven that we can integrate and we have a good currency and people want our stock. So I get a lot of phone calls. There are some that I'm interested in and some that I'm not.
But at the end of the day, I would say, those conversations are at a minimum the same and maybe even slightly higher, Slightly more conversations.
Great. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. Our next question comes from David Feaster with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning everybody. Good morning, David. I just wanted to start on the CRE growth. It was pretty impressive. Just wanted to get a sense of maybe where you're seeing strength and whether there's any certain segments or markets that's driving that?
And then just on the competitive landscape within CRE, From an underwriting perspective, are you seeing more non recourse or more aggressive underwriting that's causing you any concern at this point?
I'll answer your second part of that question first. So I don't think we're really seeing any difference over the last couple of quarters on underwriting, I think it's been pretty consistent. We obviously have not modified our underwriting guidelines and are still focused on top quality properties. And as evidenced in our investor deck, we have some information on LTVs at origination and average loan sizes And that tells a pretty good story, but where we're seeing the growth is really across all segments. I'd say with retail being the lowest, but industrial multifamily, then office, then retail.
I'd probably say in that order as far as where we're seeing the opportunities. And the values and everything going on, I mean, we underwrite cash flow. So that's part of the reason why our loan to values are lower because We have to know that the cash flow supports the loan amount that we're doing even though the value, the market value might be significantly higher. So I think We're seeing kind of similar underwriting from most banks. I mean there's always a few out there that do things a little bit differently.
Where we've probably competed more so in most situations is on rate. And That's been something that I think we've sort of acquiesced and done to Alan's point earlier that he made in that $350,000,000 to $360,000,000 range, whereas maybe a few years back, we might not have been as aggressive on the pricing, but We want to get the best deals and so we're having to price for those. We are still seeing some very outrageous pricing from some institutions and where there's a relationship, as I've always said, we'll compete. If it's transaction, We're less interested in going to the bottom of the barrel there.
That makes sense. And then maybe switching gears to the ag portfolio, obviously, we're in a seasonally stronger quarter. Just wanted to get a sense of what you're seeing in the ag book and whether you've seen any impacts from the drought. Has that impacted demand at all? Or are there any concerns on the credit front as a result of that?
Yes, that's a good question. So again, just a couple of things on the ag and by ag, I'm Speaking of dairy and livestock and our agribusiness group, which is more production ag, the dairy and livestock group increase is a combination of new relationships that we've brought on board are probably most of that increase and advances are a small part. So we really haven't seen the seasonal uptick in the dairy and livestock that we normally see yet. That normally occurs in the Q4. So we still anticipate that to happen.
But the Q3 was really us attracting a couple of new relationships to the bank. So that has been a positive. The second thing I would say is as far as the drought or any other risk that's out there. We've always underwritten the same. We underwrite for 2 sources of water.
The drought is something that we're very aware of and very conscious of. Our customers or prospects that we're talking to want to make sure that they understand the risk involved with that. And so it is impacting probably What we potentially might do, but it's not impacting our existing customers because when we underwrote them, we made sure that they had the appropriate sources of water.
Got it. That makes sense. And then, last one for me. Just wanted to touch on kind of the one of the prongs of growth. You've got clearly the organic side, the M and A side, And we've done some de novo expansion.
Just wanted to get an update on the Modesto office, kind of what's the early read on that? How has that contributed to growth? And then just any appetite for additional de novo opportunities? And if you do, where would you be interested?
Yes, that's a good question. We so if I Modesto technically just opened a couple of months ago. Although we've had the manager on board since almost the beginning of the year, I believe. So I'm happy with what's happening in Modesto. We're still building up the team.
We have, I think, one more position to hire there and I believe we're That's going to be filled here very shortly. So their pipelines are strong. They're starting to book loans. So It takes a little bit to get that going, but I'm very, very opportunistic about Modesto. What I've asked Brian Montel, our President to do is meet with each of the regional managers, identify de novo opportunity within their market And let's take a look and evaluate which ones we want to prioritize.
And so those are generally within the markets that we serve already, but could be adjacent to, it just depends on the opportunity to hire talent. And so we're going to now that we're getting towards the closure of the SunCrest deal. We're going to be focused on looking at de novo teams. Our method of operation there as we get the de novo making money. Once the last de novo is making money, we look to do another one.
So we don't want to have a drag on earnings of more than 1 at a time, but Modesto will be there, I believe in the next couple of months and then we'll be ready to do another one.
Okay. That makes sense. Thanks everybody.
Thank you.
Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I'd like to turn the call back to David Brager for closing comments.
Great. Thank you. I want to thank everybody for joining us this quarter. We appreciate your interest and look forward to speaking with you in January for our Q4 year end 2021 earnings call. Please let Alan or I know if you have any questions.
Have a great day and thanks for listening.