Name is Mark, and I
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I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Matt Gugino, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Gugino, you may begin your conference.
Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. On the call today are Tom Joyce, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Dan Comas, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This call will be recorded and posted on the Danaher website, www.danher.com and will remain on the website for 1 week. A replay of this call will also be available until May 20th.
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Thank you, Matt, and good morning, everyone. This is an exciting day for Danaher and an important step in our company's history. This morning, we announced both the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire Pall Corporation and our intention to separate Danaher into 2 independent publicly traded companies. I'll discuss the proposed separation later, but first, I want to provide you with the details of the Pall acquisition. The Boards of Directors of Danaher and Pall have each unanimously approved the agreement for Danaher to acquire all of the outstanding shares of Pall at a price of $127.20 per share in cash, representing total consideration of approximately $13,800,000,000 including assumed debt and net of cash acquired.
This is a wonderful company and this transaction represents a unique opportunity for Danaher and for Paul. Pall is a highly strategic and attractive business with an outstanding franchise, fantastic brand and market leading technologies. Based in Port Washington, New York, PAW is a leading global provider of filtration, separation and purification solutions that are used to remove contaminants or separate substances from a variety of liquids, solids and gases. Decades of work by the company's filtration engineers and scientists have enabled Pall to build a highly respected brand on which customers rely to solve their most difficult purification problems across the broad spectrum of life science and industrial end markets. In 2014, their fiscal year, Pall generated $2,800,000,000 in revenue, with $1,500,000,000 from its Life Sciences segment and $1,300,000,000 from its Industrial segment.
Pall's installed base model and high technology portfolio of proprietary IP protected products and solutions make the business both sustainable and complementary to the existing Danaher portfolio. Approximately 75% of Pall's revenue is derived in the aftermarket, which will significantly expand Danaher's recurring revenue base, a business model we've been building for more than 15 years. Pall's gross margin exceeds 50%, further demonstrating the tremendous value that its customers ascribe to its innovative products. Pall participates in the $20,000,000,000 filtration market, which is growing at a mid single digit rate. Industry growth drivers are numerous and include the expanding production of biopharmaceuticals, which are used to prevent and cure difficult to treat diseases, increasing environmental regulations and the growing complexity of manufacturing processes requiring advanced purification systems.
Product sophistication and high switching costs make this industry very attractive for the long term. Paul's Life Sciences segment is highly complementary to ours. In addition, their industrial filtration business creates another attractive high consumable industrial market opportunity for Danaher, similar to our water quality and product identification platforms. Turning to Pall's end markets. Approximately 2 thirds of Pall's Life Sciences segment revenue is derived from the fast growing biopharma market.
As a background, biopharma is comprised of companies that produce biologics that is drugs, vaccines and other medical therapies from biological rather than chemical sources. Within this market, Pall's products are used in the advanced research and manufacture of life saving drugs, vaccines and cell therapy. The remaining 1 third of segment sales are roughly split between Food and Beverage and Medical end markets. Pall's Industrial segment serves customers in the Process Technologies, Aerospace and Microelectronics markets. Approximately 60% of segment sales are in process industries.
Nepal's high performance filters and solutions are used by municipalities to purify drinking water and industrial customers to conserve energy and protect critical infrastructure. The microelectronics market makes up 25% of segment sales, where Paul leads the way with the highest level of technology innovation in filtration used in increasingly sophisticated products and manufacturing techniques. Finally, Aerospace accounts for the remaining 15% of segment sales. With the industry's broadest scope of products and technology, Pall is uniquely positioned to meet customers' needs across virtually any filtration application. This is an opportunity to improve an already high quality business with DBS.
Paul's existing management team has done an excellent job of putting the company on the path to long term growth and enhanced profitability. The Danaher Business System will provide the team with the tools to further optimize sales and marketing initiatives, accelerate product development and drive quality delivery and cost improvements. Ultimately, we expect the thoughtful application of DBS tools and principles to result not only in an improved growth trajectory, but in a better customer experience. In total, we've identified approximately $300,000,000 of cost synergies over the next several years, which represent approximately 10% of Pall's current annual revenue. Ultimately, we believe this will be a high impact opportunity where DBS will have a meaningful impact.
The acquisition is expected to provide significant earnings accretion and a substantial base to build on the filtration market. In year 1, the acquisition of Pall is expected to be accretive to adjusted diluted net earnings by approximately $0.40 per share, excluding transaction costs, purchase accounting and non cash amortization. We anticipate this accretion will more than double to approximately $1 per share by year 5. We expect to achieve high single digit return on invested capital in the 5th year following the close of the transaction. In addition, Pall provides substantial acquisition runway.
Ultimately, we believe the Paul transaction will create tremendous value for our shareholders over time. Before moving on, I'd like to take a moment to thank Pall's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Larry Kingsley and the rest of the Pall leadership team. We're pleased that the Pall Board of Directors has unanimously recommended this transaction and we look forward to working with all Pall associates on building a strong future as part of Danaher. With that, let me get into the details of today's other news. We announced today a unique opportunity for Danaher to create more shareholder value as 2 stronger and better companies.
Danaher has always been at its best when all platforms have had the ability to invest in the highest impact organic growth opportunities, pursue meaningful acquisitions and employ DBF to continuously improve performance. With this separation, each company will enjoy greater access to capital to pursue both organic and inorganic growth opportunities. We also believe that both companies will be able to accelerate revenue and earnings growth as smaller more focused independent businesses. DBS will remain the foundation allowing each company to further strengthen their market leading positions, while continuously improving organic growth, margins and cash flow. We have the strong leadership and deep pool of talent necessary to complete this separation well.
Both new companies would have strong teams to help drive growth. And for our associates, that means the creation of new opportunities for career growth and development. With that, let's dive into the details about each of the new companies. Danaher will be a more focused science and technology growth company, united by common business models with attractive characteristics. The company's businesses had approximately $16,500,000,000 in revenue in their most recently water quality, product identification and Pall.
The company will have leading positions in favorable markets, which we believe will help support mid single digit organic growth. Over 60% of the company's revenue will come from the aftermarket, which combined with our large installed base of instruments is expected to generate a stable and sustainable revenue stream. The margin profile will remain very attractive with gross margins over 50% and mid teens operating margins. With the help of BBS, we expect significant runway for margin expansion. After completion of the separation, we believe the business will have a strong investment grade credit rating, M and A remaining the bias for capital deployment.
Dan Comas and I will continue to lead Danaher. Let's now move to the new diversified industrial growth company, which we'll temporarily call NewCo. NewCo will consist of Danaher's existing test and measurement instruments platform, including Matco, Gilbarco Veeder Root, Automation and Sensors and Danaher's Specialty Industrial Businesses. NewCo with revenues of approximately $6,000,000,000 in 2014 will have market leading brands in the test and measurement, retail fueling and automation and sensors industries. After the separation, each of these platforms will have a renewed license to pursue meaningful acquisitions as well as the ability to invest in the highest impact organic growth opportunities.
We believe the company will continue to have outstanding margin profiles relative to its peers with nearly 50% gross margins and high teens operating margins. Most importantly, the business is expected to generate free cash flow to help support what we expect will be an investment grade credit rating. We expect the business will have a bias towards M and A, but will also have flexibility for other avenues of capital deployment. Jim Lico, currently Executive Vice President with responsibility for Danaher's Test and Measurement and Gilbarco Veeder Root Businesses will become the President and Chief Executive Officer of NewCo upon separation. Jim is a fantastic leader and I look forward to continue to work closely with him to ensure the highest Danaher standard execution of this separation.
Finally, I'm pleased to say that Stephen and Mitchell Rails intend to serve on the Board for both companies. Before turning the call over to Dan, who will break down some of the financial details of the 2 transactions, I want to thank our associates, customers and shareholders for their hard work and continued support. Our Board of Directors is confident that the separation will open the door for substantial opportunities for our associates, provide both companies with flexibility to better serve their customers and create the most value for our shareholders. Now, Dan, to you.
Thanks, Tom, and good morning. Let me provide a little bit more background on the Pall transaction before moving on to the separation. As we announced, we've agreed to acquire all the outstanding Pall shares for $127.20 per share in cash for a total purchase price of $13,800,000,000 The transaction has been unanimously approved by the boards of both companies. The transaction will be subject to customary closing conditions including the approval of Pall's by Pall's shareholders, receipt of applicable regulatory approvals and the absence of a material adverse effect with respect to Pall. We anticipate completing the acquisition by the end of calendar year 2015 and expect to delist Pall following the successful completion of the transaction.
We expect to finance the transaction primarily with available cash, commercial paper and the issuance of debt. Turning to the separation, we anticipate the transaction will be tax free to Detekers shareholders and will not require a vote by our shareholders. As Tom mentioned, we anticipate both companies will be well capitalized with the ability to pursue organic and inorganic growth opportunities and that each company will have an investment grade credit rating. The separation is targeted to be completed around the end of calendar year 2016 subject to the satisfaction of closing conditions including among others obtaining financial approval from the Danaher Board of Directors, satisfactory completion of financing, receipt of tax opinions, receipt of favorable rulings from the Internal Revenue Service and receipt of certain regulatory approvals. After closing the Pall transaction and until we complete the separation, our M and A activity will mainly be focused on bolt on acquisitions to strengthen our existing businesses.
Thanks, Dan. Mark, we're now ready to open the lines up for any questions.
Thank you very much. Our first question today comes from Scott Davis with Barclays.
Good morning, guys, and congrats on the deal and good luck.
Thanks, Scott. Good morning.
I'm a little confused, though. I can understand the purchase of Pall, but why the need announce the breakup today? I mean, what got you to this point? Was this something that was in the works well before you went down the path of doing this transaction? Or is this just something where you felt that on a sum of the parts basis, you could create value?
Scott, you may recall in some of the Q and A that we've had since last September that I've been given the opportunity to think about and share conversations with the Board about how we think about the portfolio over time. And so this was not something that developed purely in the most recent days or weeks, but something that we thought about for a period of time. This particular transaction, this capital deployment and an inbound business of the scale and importance of Pall does create the opportunity for us to put this structure forward. So I think it's a unique situation, but one that was born of I think a thoughtful view of how we put the overall portfolio into the best position possible for our shareholders. And as we thought about a number of our businesses that had not been the beneficiaries of capital deployment for an extended period of time, we increasingly realized that that was perhaps an opportunity missed.
And that by structuring those businesses and what we think is a focused, coherent, straightforward structure that allows them then to focus on their end markets and have a renewed license to do M and A, it sort of all came together at this time.
Yes. No, understood. But when I look at the breakdown of the businesses, it almost appears to a certain extent and that you're creating kind of a good bang, bad bang. And I know that's a little insulting to Jim and I don't mean it that way. But the product ID, for example, product ID you could pretty much argue should be in the NewCo, potentially even water.
I mean, how do you how did you think about the breakout of these 2 different companies?
Well, we think of these as both wonderful portfolios for starters. A new co that is a diversified industrial growth business with the fantastic brands that are represented in that array of businesses is just a tremendous opportunity when put into this new structure. Relative to a couple of the platforms that you referenced Product ID and Water, those share a number of characteristics with the balance of the portfolio that would continue to be Danaher. They share the characteristics of being razor and razorblade type businesses, high consumables stream that recurring revenue model, great growth trajectories, terrific margin profiles and exciting opportunities we believe for continued capital deployment. So we see them as having a lot of common characteristics that make for quite a coherent portfolio.
And Scott, one of the things we looked at, we looked at the 50 deals that both Fluke and Gilbarco have done and just the tremendous economic returns we've generated in those businesses. But since they kind of don't fit that profile of that razor razorblade, they haven't gotten the capital in the last 3 or 4 years. And that's just we just felt that the way to maximize value of those businesses was letting them get back sort of in the acquisition game to do what they do so well and we just thought it made more sense to do it as a separate company. Okay. And I know you got a ton of questions, but will NewCo report on a GAAP or a cash earnings basis?
Or are you too far away from that? I think we're too far away from that at this point, Scott. Okay. Fair enough. Thanks, guys.
I appreciate it and good luck to you. Thanks, Scott. Our
next question today will come from Nigel Coe, Morgan Stanley.
Hey, good morning, guys.
This is actually Mike signing in for Nigel. Good morning, Nigel. On the $300,000,000 synergies number, obviously, that's very strong given the size of Pall, but what's your could you break that out between the different cost buckets? And what's your initial take on potential revenue synergies here?
Well, we'll take you through the cost synergies in a lot more detail in future conversations. But those of you, particularly Mike, who followed us in the past, who've seen what we've done in other businesses, we typically get a number of cost opportunities associated with effective procurement and procurement leverage. That will be one opportunity. We get some of that comes from the cost of goods sold side. Some of that comes from indirect costs.
There's obviously a number of opportunities there and a number of our past acquisitions, Beckman included, would be examples of that. Clearly, there's a public company cost equation that plays in here. And we believe there's a wonderful runway in terms of continuing the growth trajectory. The team at Pall has already done a wonderful job, I think positioning the business for good growth in the future. They continue to see very strong growth particularly in the biopharma segment and obviously that bodes well in terms of the drop through of the margin on that recurring revenue in terms of continuing to drive the operating margins.
And Mike, this was a situation where because it was an auction, we got to do a great deal of diligence. And I think we walked out of it with a tremendous amount of conviction about what we can do from a cost and growth perspective. And as Tom alluded to the biopharmaceutical piece of it, which is about a third of the revenues is the fastest growing piece by a pretty fair margin and also has gross margins at more than 1,000 basis points than the overall company.
Thanks. And then secondly, the late 2016 date for the split, I assume a big part of that is getting Powell up and running in the organization and other required approvals. But how should we think about the potential for that to get pulled up? What are sort of the gating factors on the timeline?
Well, clearly, there's a lot we need to do internally to get set up for it. We've got to go through the IRS process for the tax rate dynamic of the transaction. And based on what work we've seen from others, we think that's kind of the year and a half is the right timetable to do that in a very effective and smart way.
Fair enough. Congrats again.
Thanks, Mike.
Our next question will come from Steven Winoker with Bernstein.
Thanks and good morning guys. Good morning, Steve.
Congrats, first of all. But we've talked about low double digit 10% return on invested capital by year 5 for large transactions for a while, maybe even a little bit sooner. In this case, you've clearly pushed out that metric and requirement. Just give us a little sense for your thinking on that front. Is it more about just balance sheet efficiency at this point, availability of other targets that are out there?
How are you thinking about that?
Steve, I think we're thinking about it in terms of this being a unique situation and a very special asset that has historically commanded a high valuation. This is one of those situations where in order to gain the position that we wanted to gain the strong market positions that this business represents in the Life Science and in the Industrial side. This is one that we were willing to do what we said we were willing to do, which is to adjust on those metrics that have served us so well historically, but to do so in a situation that was strategically of high value and great long term importance. I think it's important to recognize also, as we talked about particularly back in December and shared some examples as to what happens when you open up a new runway for acquisition with a great anchor, great foundational business like this. The examples we showed of what we've done over time in driving return on invested capital in the water platform, in the test and measurement platform, in the PID platform, etcetera, this sets up a foundation that is very, very akin to that.
And so while the returns on the face of it for an individual transaction at the moment maybe a little bit lower than what we had done historically. We're confident that in this environment that's absolutely the right thing to do for an asset of this quality and then over time we will build those returns. Steve, I think you're breaking up a little bit. I think you were trying to ask a follow-up, but are you there Steve?
Mark, why don't we move on to the next question and grab Steve when he gets back in the queue.
Next we'll hear from Steve Tusa with JPMorgan.
Good morning. Good morning, Steve. Are you okay?
Yes, we can hear you fine.
So basically, I guess, 1,000 basis points of margin improvement, I mean, is there how to think about that I guess from the fall to high 20s type of EBIT margin? Is that kind of the right ballpark? Steve, I think that that is directionally correct. I think we view this as a situation like a radiometer that came in at 20% and is now 30% actually north of 30% or a Hach which came in at mid teens which is also at that 30% range today. And again, I mean, based on our diligence, a lot of conviction both around the operating margin, but also the opportunities to improve the gross margin profile here as well.
And then I guess just from a capital structure perspective on the kind of spinco or the newco whatever you want to call it? I mean will they be taking on some of this leverage that you're putting on with Paul? Or Or how you can approach that? Yes. I mean it's obviously still fluid.
I mean our expectation is that Danaher state is a very strong investment grade company. I think with the SpinCo, as we said, our expectation it will be an investment grade company. I think we've got some more degrees of freedom around that. We also we want to make sure it has sufficient financial flexibility both around M and A, but also maybe other ways of providing returns to shareholders. So fluid, but I think it doesn't need to have the exact same structure, the same credit rating that Danaher has today.
And then one last question, any dis synergies we're talking about from a tax perspective? And importantly, where will Cajun will be going? Where the what? Where could the diesel be going? We're hopefully trying to get them out of both companies if we're really successful here.
There will be some modest dis synergies both from a one time cost perspective, also potentially from a tax perspective, but based on the work we've done today, we think they will be relatively modest. Okay. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Thanks, Steve.
And we have Mr. Stephen Winoker's follow-up question. He is from Bernstein.
Steve, you're in a tough cell phone pocket here.
Steve, unfortunately, we can't hear you.
Mark, let's move on to the next question. We'll move to our next question. We're happy to kind of talk to you offline.
We have Isaac Ro with Goldman Sachs.
Good morning, guys. Thanks. Hi, Adam. Hey. So I wanted to ask maybe general question about Hach and Paul.
I mean, there's probably not a lot of people that know a ton about both of those companies. And so I guess, if you could talk a little bit about where you see the most meaningful revenue synergy there? I think you touched a little bit on it in the prepared remarks. So I'd be curious about where you're most excited about creating some customer synergy?
Yes. Isaac, I think it's I would think of it more in terms of an adjacency from the standpoint of the application of Hach Technologies to water versus the PAWL the application of PAWL Technologies to water. They operate obviously in different places. So, I would expect that the revenue synergies associated with that may be somewhat modest, but that's from where we sit today. As we get a little closer and bring the teams together to think more deeply about that, perhaps we'll see that see some more opportunities emerge.
But I think of them more as adjacencies and necessarily things that come together in a perhaps an integrated commercial way visavis the customer.
Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe just a follow-up. As we look at the new standalone Dan and her kind of more focus on Life Science going forward, one of the things out there I think is the idea of having consumable franchise to complement the equipment. Obviously, Paul will get you a lot of those assets.
If we look maybe more specifically, however, in bioprocess tools, it does seem like some of the players there have really explicitly taken a strategy of owning both the upstream media consumables as well as the downstream filtration. So do you think that's important over the longer term in terms of augmenting the franchise to have sort of that complete downstream, upstream kind of media and filtration assets? And it's sort a longer term question, but just curious where you think you can go with this business once
you have it? Sure. Thanks, Isaac. So let me just start for a second with sort of the frame of your question in the beginning there. While there's a wonderful position that Paul clearly has in life science and clearly with the separation people may want to draw conclusions about our preference for certain vertical markets.
By no means are we exclusively framing Danaher go forward as a pure life science play, whether narrowly defined or broadly defined in terms of life science. So we're still very excited about the number of vertical markets we play, whether it's the water related environmental markets or the applied markets that are represented by PID, the food and beverage markets where it plays as does some of the Pall businesses. So I just wanted to make sure we have that frame clear. Relative to the specifics of your question, obviously, we're thrilled about the position that Paul brings us in terms of biopharm. And filtration is such a valuable portion of that market.
That's really our focus. That's really our focus go forward. How opportunities might evolve over time relative to upstream or downstream in the process, we'll see. But at the moment, filtration plays such a strategic role in the process that we're very comfortable with that position at the moment. And as we get more closely engaged with the Pall team, we'll explore other adjacent opportunities consistent with my comments about bolt on acquisitions.
Got it. Appreciate all the color. Thanks. Thanks, Isaac.
Next we'll hear from Richard Eastman, Robert W. Baird. Congratulations guys on the Paul transaction. I think it will be a fantastic value enhancer for Danaher. Thanks.
Tom. Tom, could you just circle back for a second? On the $300,000,000 of synergies, could you just maybe pace that out year 1, year 2? And then secondly, is does Danaher bring some sales synergy opportunities to Paul, especially in emerging markets? I mean is there a bump there that you can contribute to Paul's business?
Rick, maybe I'll just add on the first question and hand over the second one back to Tom. I think the $300,000,000 we see coming in over the next 4 or 5 years, probably a little bit faster initially, but pretty steady over time. This is a very well functioned and well run business. We clearly don't want to change their attractive growth profile here. So we're going to be thoughtful as we move forward.
And then Rick, relative to your question about sales synergies, specific to the emerging markets, we despite having very good diligence process here, we have not engaged directly with the teams in the emerging markets yet. But I would say that based on our history, particularly across a number of the platforms like our life science platform to name one example, we have had very good success bringing teams together and looking for great opportunities to team up commercially and bring more value higher value propositions to customers. So I do think that's an opportunity. The specifics associated with how we do that and in what markets and in what applications There's still work to be done as
we get closer to those teams. And then just as a follow-up. On the separated version of Danaher and NewCo, it sounds like from your comments that the portfolios aren't static through the end of 'sixteen. There will be some bolt on activity. Is the new coal business, as it's being formed, will the recurring revenue stream there bend more towards software and subscription versus consumables given that most of the consumable
necessarily call the direction for NewCo in terms of say M and A activity or be it adjacencies or bolt ons to be directionally biased towards consumables versus software etcetera. Are opportunities to find consumable adjacencies to a number of those businesses. There are in fact software opportunities relative to a number of those businesses, but I wouldn't necessarily call a strategic direction there at this point.
Okay. Very good. Well, again, congrats on both transactions. Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks, Rick. Josh Muken, Evercore ISI has your next question.
Good morning, guys, and congrats. It seems like a series of phenomenal events for you. As you think about the how the organization is going to respond, I'm sure you'll be doing a number of town halls and meeting with kind of leaders throughout the organization and seeing folks globally.
How do
you think the various different organizations and the workforce is kind of going to respond to this? And what's the kind of obviously, the DBS culture has been so important to its success over time. And do you feel like the new organization, particularly on the science and technology side, there'll be more of a growing focus or feeling on the R and D front there? I mean, you guys have done so much for new products over time. And you think splitting that out gives them even maybe more confidence in that future trajectory?
Ross, first of all, yes, we will in fact be doing a number of associate communications that will be going on today and in the days weeks ahead on a global basis. And they will be going on for an extended period of time because obviously, as we said, this new structure will take quite a number of months to put in place. I think the challenges will be relatively low organizationally if you look at it from an operating company and a platform perspective because there's a very straightforward move here structurally in terms of which operating companies, which platforms. The beauty of Danaher and its current structure with its operating company centric model is that we have the flexibility to do this without an enormous level of matrix structure shared overhead. There is some though.
Obviously, we have a corporate talent pool that's an important resource here and other small teams that we'll need to work through. And I think that's going to be important. We need to be sensitive to that. But I think the exciting thing is that this presents opportunities for people. In a new structure like this, there's going to be a lot of new found opportunities from the standpoint of structure and the outlook that people are going to have associated with the growth prospects in NewCo.
So I think once the information is fully digested, people get a chance to think it through and we're able to get a few more specifics under our belt. I think this will be well received. But obviously, some big news to digest here in the short term.
And maybe just a little bit And then if I can let me just add sorry, I missed
one quick point there. It shouldn't be missed that having Jim Leko, an extraordinary leader, long tenured at Danaher, one of the most significant DBS zealous and practitioners in the corporation who few could possibly embrace the Danaher culture in ways that Jim does and demonstrate them day in and day out. That's going to be a tremendously positive reinforcement to all teams associated with NewCo that there'll be consistency around the culture, that there'll be a continued focus on the tools of DBS and that we'll be running a playbook that many are familiar with in terms of the growth of Danaher over the last couple of decades.
Thanks, Tom. That's great. And I think obviously as an employee, you'd probably be pretty excited today. As you think about the asset construction and the 2 pieces, there was a question before about PID. I think that had more in common with some of the assets.
When you think about the dental piece, that had still some different growth in more consumer characteristics than some of the other businesses. Although, I guess you could argue diagnostics has some of that. I mean, as you were thinking about whether 2 versus 3, I mean, maybe 3 is more complicated as different entities. Was there any debate as to whether or not there was actually a separate portion of even the technology and science piece? Or did you feel like all the businesses had so much synergy from a financial and strategic perspective that this current structure made the most sense?
Sure. Well, clearly more the latter than the former. We saw a tremendous amount of consistency in the characteristics of the businesses that are on either side of the structure here. Again, the Danaher structure being more recurring revenue consumables oriented, the NewCo structure perhaps a little bit less so, but I think with still strength of tremendous installed bases on the back of great brands and again great opportunities. But again, I think and to your point, sure, something in excess of a straightforward structure like this would be more complicated and but that's more an executional issue.
I think strategically we felt very comfortable that this organization was coherent and straightforward both internally and externally from an investor perspective.
No, that's great, Tom. Thank you so much.
Thanks, Rob.
And next is John Inch with Deutsche Bank.
Yes, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, John. Morning, John. Good morning.
Could we just to go back to the $300 again, how much is part of the $0.40 So how much is in 2016? And can we preliminarily assign the cost synergies between the life science pieces and the industrial piece of Paul?
John, we're not going to go into that level of detail for a whole variety of reasons. But as I mentioned, the $300,000,000 will be phased in relatively evenly as we think about accretion over time.
Okay. That's fair. Now I
just want to go back
to Tom what you were saying earlier. Is it fair? Because if you look at Paul, there doesn't seem to be I think if I hear what you're saying, you're not the cost synergy is really not coming from closing overlapping facilities or combining kind of on a DBS way sort of footprint rationalization. It sounds like it's more procurement. Is there anything else?
Because it does seem like a high number, but I realize you've done the work. Just can you help us get a little more comfortable with why the 1,000 basis points makes sense?
Sure. Well, there will be a broad swath of things obviously we explore, John. And DBS, when applied to a business like this, we certainly learned this at Beckman, presents opportunities for us to drive efficiency, better operating practices in a wide range of situations. There is obviously, the manufacturing footprint is an important one. It is one that is obviously closely associated with customers.
And so, we would approach that situation very carefully and thoughtfully. And there's no immediate action here in the near term for anything to do with that. So that's something that we'll just have to get more familiar with over time working with the team and figure out what they think makes the most sense.
Hey, Dan. In the slide release, it says that you're going to be borrowing at less than 2%. Could you at least give us what you expect in terms of the 13.8% how you're going to finance it between cash, commercial paper and I guess term debt? What sort of how do you get to sub 2% because it seems like a really low number?
Well, probably by the time we close, we'd have close to $3,000,000,000 of cash which is earning next to 0 here. We would do a sizable piece of commercial 10 10 that's less than well less than 1% even if rates go up a little bit. And then you've got the other 5% getting termed out anywhere from 2 years to 30 years and it's not that hard to blend to 2% or a little bit less.
Got it. Okay. Thanks very much. Thanks, John.
Robert McCarthy with Stifel has a question. Good morning, everyone. I seem to found the phone booths at Ingersoll Rand, so I have a landline. Wanted to ask about the $16,500,000,000 I guess for the Life Science and Technology Co. I mean, I guess was there a debate about perhaps separating into 3 companies because you still run into down the road being a victim of your own success if things work out that you're still going to have this kind of law of large numbers problem in a couple of years in terms capital redeployment.
So, could you just talk through whether you thought about 3 or perhaps more entities from a separation perspective?
Well, we don't see this as something that's a function of the law of large numbers. We see this really as an opportunity that's associated with capital deployment and strategic focus and coherence and clarity of kind of the role and mission of each operating company. So, yes, I mean, at the end of the day, do you have the opportunity to grow off a smaller base either organically and inorganically? Sure, you do. But that's not the fundamental issue here.
That's not the catalyst for what we're trying to do here. So, we saw this particular structure as being the most logical structure and the most practical structure.
Okay. And then just two quick brief follow ups on Paul. I mean, one, maybe you talked about the working capital opportunity there because that's a big part of the equation that's probably not taken into account explicitly in the cost synergies? And then number 2, has there been any thought to Larry's role in the company going forward?
Rob, on the working capital front, we tend to find opportunities with the larger opportunities, larger companies, larger acquisitions to bring in some of our best practices around managing inventory, collecting receivables, working the payable side. And we don't view this as any different than some of the other deals we've done over the last 5 years. And I think we can bring some best practices in here that will help drive some cash and reduce our overall investment.
And relative to your question on Larry, I'll let Larry address that question and we won't address that here today.
Thanks for your time.
Thank you.
Operator, we're ready for our next question and that will be Charlie Brady, BMO Capital Markets. Hey, Charlie.
Hey, good morning, guys. Almost my voice. I wonder if
you can just I know it's early days
in this, but I wonder if you look at the NewCo Industrial Company, if you could talk about kind of growth from M and A down the road that you layer on top of the mid single digit organic. Any idea kind of how much leverage on top of that you think you can get by having separated out as its own piece?
Charlie, obviously, it is early days. But one of the primary reasons we're doing this as you alluded to is to set that business back up to be in a position to pursue M and A. And at a high level, what I think that does is they get back in the mode of doing smart bolt ons, smart adjacencies, they can get back to a position of driving their earnings at a double digit rate. So at a high level, that's what I think the simple frame would be. Okay.
Thanks. That is
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