Welcome to The Walt Disney Company Quarter 2 Fiscal Year 16 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Katie, and I will be your operator for today's call. I'll now turn the call over to Lowell Singer, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Good afternoon, and welcome to The Walt Disney Company's Q2 2016 earnings call. Our press release was issued about 45 minutes ago and is available on our website at www.disney.com/investors. Today's call is also being webcast and the web cast and the transcript will also be available on our website. Joining me for today's call are Bob Iger, Disney's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Christine McCarthy, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Christine is going to lead off, followed by Bob, and then of course, we'll be happy to take your questions.
So with that, let me turn the call over to Christine to get started.
Thanks, Lowell, and good afternoon, everyone. 2nd quarter earnings per share, excluding items affecting comparability, were up 11% to $1.36 marking the 11th consecutive quarter in which we've delivered double digit growth in adjusted earnings per share. Our financial results this quarter, which I will discuss in more detail in a moment, demonstrate once again how the strength of our brands and a relentless focus on creative excellence and execution can continue to drive growth across our businesses and create value for our shareholders. Our studio delivered another great quarter with operating income up 27% versus last year. The growth in operating income was primarily due to the worldwide theatrical success of Star Wars: The Force Awakens and Disney Zootopia.
Fiscal 2015 was a record year for the studio and the first half of fiscal 2016 is off to a record start with over $1,500,000,000 in operating income due to the phenomenal performance of our film slate. Fiscal year to date, Star Wars: The Force Awakens has generated almost $2,100,000,000 in global box office. Zootopia has generated $960,000,000 making it the number one film of the year so far and the 2nd highest grossing Disney Animation Studio film behind Frozen. I'll also note that Zootopia is the number one animated film of all time in China, grossing over $235,000,000 to date. The success of our studio is no accident.
It is the result of our strategy of making high quality branded films and leveraging that success across a number of our integrated businesses. No company does a better job than Disney in creating, cultivating and extending the value of a franchise. As a result, when we have a successful film franchise, we're able to drive industry leading returns on investment. At Parks and Resorts, the investments we've made to both maintain a high level of guest experience and to drive demand continue to pay off. In Q2, the segment set new second quarter records in both revenue and operating income.
Our domestic operations in particular continue to benefit from strong demand from guests, specifically at our domestic parks and at Disney Cruise Line. Operating income at our domestic operations was up over 20% in the quarter and margins were higher by about 300 basis points. Attendance at our domestic parks was comparable to the Q2 last year and per capita spending was up 8% on higher admissions, food and beverage and merchandise spending. Per room spending at our domestic hotels was up 5% and occupancy was down 1 percentage point to 88%. 2nd quarter results reflect the unfavorable impact of the New Year's holiday shifting into our 1st fiscal quarter, which was largely offset by the favorable impact of the shift of the Easter holiday.
The shift of the Easter holiday period will also have an impact on Park's Q3 results as the holiday period fell in the Q2 this year or as the holiday period fell during the Q3 last year. As a result, about $90,000,000 in operating income was shifted into Q2 that was recognized in Q3 last year. Domestic resort reservations for the Q3 are pacing up 5% compared to prior year levels, while booked rates are down 2%, reflecting the impact of the Easter holiday shift. Our cruise business set new 2nd quarter records in revenue and operating income, driven by higher ticket pricing and onboard spending. Disney Cruise Line continues to be a market leader in innovation, creativity and guest service.
The business achieved record financial performance in 2015 and that strength continues in fiscal 2016 with Disney Cruise Line generating its best first half ever. During the Q2, we announced plans to build 2 additional ships that will be completed in 20212023. Our decision to expand the fleet was driven by the outstanding guest response to our product and a business in which we have a strong competitive advantage and where we believe we can drive attractive returns on investment. Growth in domestic operations was partially offset by a decline at our international parks, due primarily to pre opening spending at Shanghai Disney Resort. We're extremely excited for the grand opening of the resort, which Bob will discuss in greater detail.
Operating income at Media Networks was up 9% in the 2nd quarter due to growth in cable, which was primarily driven by higher operating income at ESPN. The higher results at ESPN benefited from lower programming and production costs in the 2nd quarter and higher affiliate revenue, partially offset by lower advertising revenue. Lower programming costs and advertising revenue reflect the shift of 6 New Year's Eve and New Year's Day College Football Playoff Bowl games, including the 2 semifinal games. These games aired during our 1st fiscal quarter this year, whereas they aired during our 2nd fiscal quarter last year. The shift in timing of the bowl games had an adverse impact on ESPN's ratings and CPMs in the 2nd quarter, which were partially offset by an increase in units sold.
As a result, ESPN's ad revenue was down 13%, but we estimate ad revenue would have been up about 3% adjusted for the timing of the Volumes. So far this quarter, ESPN ad sales are pacing up 5% versus prior year. Broadcasting operating income down in the 2nd quarter as growth in affiliate and advertising revenue was more than offset by lower income from program sales compared to prior year as well as higher programming costs. Ad revenue at the ABC network was up 5% in the 2nd quarter and benefited from higher rates, but was adversely impacted by lower ratings in the quarter compared to prior year. So far this quarter, scatter pricing at the network is pacing 20% above upfront levels.
Media Networks affiliate revenue was up 5% adjusted for the adverse impact of foreign exchange and leap day driven by 4% adjusted affiliate revenue growth at cable and double digit growth at broadcasting. At our Consumer Products and Interactive segment, operating income was lower in the quarter. Our merchandise licensing business was up in the quarter, but segment results were weighed down by an adverse impact from foreign exchange as well as lower results from both our Disney Stores business and Infinity. When you look at the segment results, it's important to note our underlying merchandise licensing business remains very strong. On a comparable basis, earned licensing revenue was up 18% in the 2nd quarter.
This was driven by strong ongoing demand for Star Wars merchandise, partially offset by the expected difficult year over year frozen comparison. Merchandise licensing was also impacted by lower minimum guarantee shortfall recognition in the quarter, which relates to the shift in our fiscal calendar. So while some headwinds and timing related ins and outs impacted second quarter results, we are quite pleased with our first half segment results. Comparable earned licensing revenue was up over 20% for the first half of the fiscal year, which helped drive merchandise licensing operating income growth of over 20% and segment operating income growth of 12%. During the quarter, we took a charge of $147,000,000 in connection with the shutdown of our Infinity console games business.
Going forward, our console game strategy will focus solely on licensing our great portfolio of content. We continue to actively repurchase our shares. And in the Q2, we bought back 20,800,000 shares for $2,000,000,000 Fiscal year to date, we've repurchased about 47,300,000 shares for approximately $4,900,000,000 And with that, I will now turn the call over to Bob.
Thanks, Christine, and good afternoon. Since Christine has already covered our businesses in the quarter, I want to focus on a couple of things we're very excited about. The unbelievable momentum of our studio and the grand opening of Shanghai Disney Resort, which is now just about a month away. Since our acquisition of Pixar, we've released 27 movies under the Pixar, Disney Animation, Marvel and Lucasfilm brands, with an average global box office of about 770,000,000 each. And as Christine mentioned, the studio's winning streak continues.
This weekend, our 2016 box office total crossed $1,000,000,000 domestically, dollars 2,000,000,000 internationally and $3,000,000,000 globally, reaching those milestones faster than any studio in history. Zootopia's fantastic performance is just the latest in a string of incredibly successful original movies from our animation studios, including Inside Out, Big Hero 6 and Frozen to name a few. We're also having tremendous success reimagining Disney classics as exciting live action movies, most recently with The Jungle Book, a stunning movie pushing the limits of innovation and technology to bring some of our most beloved characters to life in a spectacular new way. It's been gratifying to see the worldwide response. Global box office for The Jungle Book to date is $783,000,000 including almost $150,000,000 in China.
And in India, it's now the highest grossing Hollywood movie in history. And of course, Marvel's Civil War just opened around the world to wide acclaim and huge box office. Its domestic debut last weekend generated almost $180,000,000 in box office, making it the 5th biggest opening Global box office to date for Civil War is more than $705,000,000 and climbing. There are now 13 films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe generating almost $10,000,000,000 in global box office to date. We've got an unprecedented pipeline of terrific movies on the way with major release dates announced through the end of the decade.
In the near term, we're looking forward Alice Through the Looking Glass and Pixar's Finding Dory, which will both be in theaters this summer. We're obviously very thrilled with our studio's performance and its position going forward, but what we're most excited about right now is the grand opening of the spectacular Shanghai Disney Resort on June 16. I was there again last week as we were putting the finishing touches on the resort. Began trial operations over the weekend, allowing invited guests to explore the park and enjoy some of the attractions, entertainment and dining experiences. It's incredibly exciting for all of us to see the park truly come alive for the first time, and the initial feedback from guests so far has been absolutely phenomenal.
We'll continue to fine tune everything over the next few weeks to ensure the experience we deliver on opening day is everything we want it to be for our guests. After 17 years of working on this project, I'm still awed by it, the scale, the detail, the sheer artistry, it's all breathtaking. I find something new to marvel over every time I visit and I know our guests will do the same. Even though it has all of the Disney details, it's unlike any other destination we've ever created. We set out to build something truly extraordinary and we've succeeded in a way that far exceeds our most ambitious expectations.
We've reimagined everything, even our most familiar iconic attractions have been elevated and transformed with help of cutting edge technology that allows us to take our creativity farther. Anchoring our first ever Pirates theme land, Shanghai's Pirates of the Battle for the Sunken Treasure is the first attraction inspired by the blockbuster movie franchise. Its stunning size and incredible technological innovation allow us to immerse our guests in a grand adventure on the high seas like never before. We've also reimagined Castle, expanding the size and introducing more entertainment, experiences and shopping. And we're introducing new lands throughout people of China, or as we have been saying, it is authentically Disney and distinctly Chinese, and we can't wait to share it with the world.
Opening the gates officially welcoming our first guests will be one of the proudest and most exciting moments in the history of this phenomenal company, not to mention a monumental achievement. And with that, I'm going to turn the call back over to Lowell, and Christine and I will be happy to take your questions. Lowell?
Bob, thanks a lot. Operator, we are ready for
And our first question comes from Anthony DeClement. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon and thanks for taking my questions. I'll start with one for Bob. Bob, I hope you find this to be a fair question. I think investors would value any context that you could provide us with respect to Tom's resignation last month? And looking forward, if you can give us any update on CEO succession plans and specifically help us out with the probability that your contract could potentially be extended beyond June of 2018?
And then Christine, you said, I think recurring cable network facility fee growth at cable was 4% in the quarter. I think that was a half a point ahead of the 3.5 percent that you realized last quarter. Could you just talk about the drivers of the 4% in terms of rate and volume and any forward outlook that you'd be willing to provide us? Thanks a lot.
Anthony, thank you. And I don't mind your question at all. Obviously, Tom was a valued colleague and a friend of mine and many others at the company. And so we're sorry what came to pass, but we don't really have much more to say about that. I will say that or remind people that I have just over 2 years left on my contract as CEO of the company.
And the Board is very actively engaged in a succession process as it has been actually for some time. And it believes that it has ample time to identify a successor under timing circumstances that will be just fine for the company. I have nothing really to add in terms of the extension of my contract except that I don't currently have any plans to extend beyond the June expiration date. That is June of 2018.
Okay. Thanks.
Anthony, your question on the affiliate revenue growth. For MediaNet, the number we gave you a 4% adjusted affiliate growth at cable, that was based on a solid rate of growth with some offset from foreign exchange and subs.
Okay. And I think just as a follow-up last quarter, you had talked about an up uptick earlier in the year from lighter packages, I think in part driven by Sling TV subscribers. So do you care to kind of talk about that? Were the lighter bundles? Were the Sling TV like services a driver of subs in any way?
Can you kind of characterize the trajectory of those subs for ESPN? That would be helpful. Thanks.
Yes, Anthony, I'll take this one. We launched with Sling as you referenced. We also launched with Sony View. And the numbers on both those platforms have been encouraging and they were a driver of sub they did contribute incremental subs for ESPN this last quarter. We're also in But we're also in discussions with a number of entities, some current distributors that are coming forward with new packages and some completely new distributors, all have expressed an avid interest in having ESPN and our other channels included in their initial offerings.
And we're very, very encouraged by the discussionsnegotiations that we're having. But other than the Verizon settlement that was mentioned today, we don't really have any news to give you on this at the moment, except to say again that there are a number of new entrants in the marketplace. They all want ESPN. We like where the status of our talks with them. And we actually like the trends as well.
These products are very attractive because they're offering consumers more choice. They typically are better at mobility and their user interface is really positive, is really strong. And those are all really important when it comes to today's environment. So we think long term, given the discussions that we have and given the experience that we've had these last few months, we feel good about what we're seeing.
Okay. Thanks a lot.
Anthony, thanks for the question. Operator, next question please.
Our next question comes from Alexia Quadrani from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Thank you. I just start off if I can maybe Bob follow-up with your commentary just now about being in discussions with a number of potential over the top or streaming partners there. How expansive do you think that opportunity can be? I think if you look out for the next few years, do you think it can be a meaningful positive or have a meaningful positive impact on either your subs or affiliate revenue outlook?
I think it will have a meaningful effect on the marketplace for us. I can't really give guidance in terms of where I think it's going to end up, whether we'd be ahead of what our projections were at one point. But they definitely are very, very encouraging signs in terms of what we've seen already. And we're not at liberty to give numbers for Sling or for Sony, except we can say that we anecdotally were told that after ESPN was included in their package, they saw some very, very encouraging sign ups or trend in terms of sign ups. So I think this is all very positive for us.
And as I just mentioned as a response to the prior question, the conversations we're having have been quite productive. We just haven't concluded new deals to announce as of today.
And then a follow-up, if I can. Just looking at the Parks business, you've got a lot of moving pieces there. Obviously, the big opening in Shanghai, you've got expansion plans domestically, dynamic pricing going on, all those technological innovations there. I guess, what do you see as the biggest, maybe opportunity on the for a profit contributor for profit growth going forward?
I think you're going to see a number of contributors. It will take some time for Shanghai to contribute because we've got start up costs and we're walking before we run there as well. But eventually, we have very, very optimistic outlook about the park that we're opening there and about the market in general. We like the steps that we've taken in terms of pricing. We've taken a number of steps or made a number of steps to essentially grow revenue, in some cases actually at the expense of some attendance, where we're changing our pricing approach, sometimes in part to moderate attendance so that the park experience is a little bit better, but all designed with the effect of essentially raising revenue.
We like the as you mentioned, we like some of the investments that we're making on the technology front. We also like what we've got in the works in terms of expansion in other locations, the Star Wars lands that we're building in Florida and in California Avatar, which in Florida, which opens before that. We announced 2 new cruise ships that's coming down the road, I think, 2021 2023 as a for instance. We're looking at other expansion opportunities in Hong Kong and Tokyo. And generally, we think that you're going to see a number of contributors to growth across that sector.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Alexia, for the questions. Operator, next question.
Our next question comes from Michael Nathanson from MoffettNathanson. Please go ahead.
Thanks. I have one for Christine and then I'll ask one to Bob. Christine, can we focus a bit on consumer products, which surprised us? Can you walk through the impacts to profit growth? If you look at the Q1, you guys were up 23% in profits.
This quarter, you were down 8%. So what impacted that delta in growth? And how do you think about growth in actual products for the rest of the year?
Sure. Thanks, Michael. You're absolutely right. The 1st quarter growth was 23% followed by the 8% decline this quarter. And there's several factors that slowed the overall growth The first I'd like to mention is that the earned revenue growth was strong again in Q2 at 18%.
Now that compares to an extremely strong growth in Q1 that was 23% in earned revenue growth. But again, second quarter was very strong at 18%. Star Wars, we all know, was a great contributor in Q2, but it didn't have quite the massive contribution it had in Q1. And also remember, in Q1, we had the Q4 deferral of the Episode 7 merchandise, the revenue associated with that merchandise. So that from Q4 was also moved into Q1, which had a bolstering effect on Q1.
We also have a timing issue of guaranteed shortfall payments that helped in Q1, and they were a drag in Q2, as I mentioned in my comments. And also lastly, I'll mention that Battlefront was a much more significant driver in Q1 than it was in Q2. And I think if you look at those, those are good contributing factors to the quarter to quarter decline.
And Michael, before you ask me a question, I think it's really important with this business not to look at it as a quarterly business because we're not only continuing to support the $11,000,000,000 plus franchises that we have as a company, but we continue to create intellectual property that is leverageable across our consumer products businesses. Now not all is leverageable as Star Wars and Frozen, for instance, but when you look at Zootopia and you look at Jungle Book, somewhat small so far, but Captain America won't be. The impact of Captain America long term on business and the other Marvel properties, the reintroduction of Spider Man. Spider Man is the hottest or the number one Marvel character from a consumer merchandise perspective and reintroducing Spider Man successfully, as we've done in Captain America, through the release next year's 2017 of Spider Man is something that also has to be considered. So it's a kind of business that I think is very difficult to measure in terms of the bottom line success on a quarterly basis.
We just don't run it that way.
Right. And it's hard to model it too.
And Michael, I know you asked about, sort of guidance going forward, and we don't provide guidance. But as Bob mentioned, we think we have the best portfolio of properties, and we're very encouraged by what we see in this business.
Okay. Bob, can I just ask you one on Hulu? Last week, Hulu confirmed they're going to launch a virtual MSO sometime next year. And as a partner with Hulu, someone who's talked a lot about the opportunity in the marketplace, I wonder what would you like to see as a design that maybe fits in between the large bundle of the MVPDs and what Sling and some of you are doing. So if you could actually build something for the future, what are the elements that you think are missing from today's marketplace?
Well, I'll answer. Before I do, Hulu has become an important investment for us, not just as a distributor of the programs that we make, but ultimately is a buyer of original product and ultimately is a distributor of our channels. And we think they have a great opportunity to become an OTT MVPD because they can leverage their current user base, and they also have a good user interface. I don't want to speak for them fully, but what they're looking at is a best of cable approach, which I guess the response specifically to your question would put them between the big expanded basic bundle category and some of the lightest packages that are available like some of what Sling has put out. We feel really good about the opportunity.
We're also fully aligned with our partners at 21st Century Fox on the strategy. And I also know that there have been questions asked about what the impact of going into the distribution business is on our current distribution partners. And to that, I would respond, even though you didn't ask the question. There are a number of our current distribution partners that are in the content ownership, content creation business, most notably Comcast and its purchase of NBCUniversal. So we don't think that there's any negative impact whatsoever to us going into the business of distributing our channels.
Thanks, Paul.
Thank you, Michael. Operator, next question please.
Our next question comes from Jessica Reif Cohen from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.
Thanks. I guess a follow-up on the Hulu question. Does it change could you say anything about the timing of the launch? And you said best of kind of in between the bigger bundles, but what it will look like and anything if you can say anything on pricing? Advertising market, it's been incredibly buoyant.
Are you how do you think about on the advertising market, it's been incredibly buoyant. How are you thinking about approaching the upfront market? Are there any changes in your sales approach into the upfront? Or generally speaking, do you look more targeted, etcetera, etcetera?
I'll answer the second part of the question first. We're not going to get into details in terms of our strategy going to the upfront, except that we would agree with what you said. We see a very robust marketplace and a very strong upfront ahead both for our broadcast network for ABC and for ESPN. We're very encouraged with what we see, but we're not going to disclose what our strategy is going in. Your question about Hulu, they have I don't think they've been specific about when they're going to launch or what their pricing is going to be, but I'll reiterate what I said earlier and that is we're fully aligned with our partners at 21st Century Fox on plans to launch, on what their user interface is, on what their approach is in terms of the overall package.
We'll have individual negotiations with them for our channels, of course, but we like their strategy from a pricing perspective and in terms of what their ultimate consumer offering or consumer proposition is. I don't think I'll comment much about what we're doing on the xBOD space. And this is still a very dynamic marketplace, and we continue to look for opportunities to sell our content. I will say that we've never seen a better marketplace to sell intellectual property into. And the strategy that we deployed a while ago to invest in the creation of intellectual property is one that we believe in even more today, and we're going to continue to invest more in creating intellectual property.
And one of the best examples of that would be Marvel and what we've been able to do with Netflix in terms of multiple original series, renewal of second seasons on 2 of them and the addition of another series from Marvel to Netflix and the fact that Marvel has been in discussions with other distributors as well, and so demand on their product is pretty significant. Plus, we're looking at obviously continuing to invest under the ABC banner, under the Disney banner and potentially under the Lucas banner. So there are many opportunities for us to sell content to a fairly voracious marketplace right now for that content.
And can I just one other follow-up on Shanghai, you mentioned the dynamic pricing? Can you just talk about how much of a difference there might be from peak to the last seasonal period? And also what the impact of having the park will be because when you talked about the movies, you talked about how well they did the recent movies in China. Obviously, having the parks in this promotion should help that even further. So maybe just the overall ripple effect that you should get once the park fully opens.
The pricing that we have in China is for basically peak and off peak periods, and there are more off peak days than there are peak days. There's roughly a $20 differential between peak and off peak and it's somewhere in the neighborhood of $76 a day for the peak and $56 for the off peak. There's also some pricing for children and some pricing for senior citizens. And our the reaction to the pricing has actually been quite positive so far, as well as reaction to the pricing for our hotels and the pricing for the Lion King show, which is a Mandarin produced Lion King. It is the full sort of Broadway show, but it is a separate ticket.
And so far, so good. We've actually had no negative reactions whatsoever to our pricing approach. The value of our intellectual property in China is on the rise. That's obviously, as you noted, Jessica, evident in how our movies are doing. It's having a very positive impact on our brand and our brands that would include Disney and Marvel in particular.
We do have Marvel presence in the park that will grow over time. So there'll be all kinds of opportunities, particularly for character interaction with Marvel characters. I know that with interest in a recent visit to Disneyland here in California that there was a line early in the morning for our guests to meet Zootopia characters. I can tell you that Zootopia having done so well in China, there will be Zootopia characters in our park in China sooner than we had initially anticipated. But in general, you're going to find a park that is going to take advantage of what is clearly a growing interest in our intellectual property as well as a blend of some original intellectual property, too.
We wanted this park to be unique and that it would have things that our other parks and other locations around the world didn't have, but it's definitely a blend.
Thank you.
Thanks, Jessica. Operator, next question please.
Our next question comes from Omar Sheikh from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Just a couple of questions. First for Christine on going back to consumer products if I could. Could you maybe let us know what the Infinity as annualized revenue and operating income contributed by Infinity was, so we know what to strip out going forward? And also maybe what the FX headwind was in the quarter for Consumer Products?
That would be helpful. And then a question for Bob. I know there's been some press reports about your potential interest in MLB's BAM unit. I wonder whether you could, well, A, perhaps comment on that if you care to. But just maybe more broadly, could you maybe update us on your thinking on potentially taking some of the
On Infinity, we don't disclose those numbers by product, but I will answer your question on foreign exchange headwinds for the segment. In this quarter, the FX impact on consumer products was $18,000,000 And but I also want to reiterate that our forecast for the year over year change, which we gave you previously, a $500,000,000 for the year, is still the same outlook and we're not making any change to that. And that's for the entire company.
Okay, thanks.
Omar, I'm not really going to make a specific comment about our interest in acquiring a stake in BAM. I will say that we've been very impressed with their product. It's obviously quite evident if you have engaged with Major League Baseball on digital platforms, probably among the best out there. On the direct to consumer front, we've talked about this often. We're blessed with brands and products that give us the opportunity to take them direct to consumer.
It's not always that simple in that we have agreements with current distributors that have to be considered, although they don't go forever. And obviously, we have to get it right from a on our part because we really wanted to see not only how consumers behave with the product, but what the pricing should be and whether the technology platform that we created for it to put it on would work. And we've been really encouraged by that. We've had great consumer reviews, and we're pleased to say that the transition from basically free to pay has gone really well, too. And so we're looking at other opportunities around the world to distribute that product to.
There's also been great interest in our movies and our television shows on the platform. But interestingly enough, as time has passed and people are using it more, we're finding they're going to our books, our games, our music as well. So it's a good product that seems to be working, and we think there are more opportunities for it.
Very clear. Thank you very much.
Omar, thanks for the questions. Operator, next question please.
Our next question comes from Doug Mitchelson from UBS. Please go ahead.
Thanks so much. I had one for Bob and one for Christine. I'll just ask them both upfront. I think, Bob, there's you've had a lot of discussion already on the call about, I guess, we're calling them OTT MVPDs. For now, we need a better acronym for sure, I think.
But I'm interested in the advertising side for IP streaming world. Has Disney been rethinking advertising models, including ad loads? Has your vision for the future of TV advertising informed your strategy for the Media Networks division? And for Christine, the 5% hotel bookings pacing for the June quarter, that's despite the tough Easter comparison. So the core trend would actually be better than that.
Am I thinking about that right?
Thanks. Yes. I mentioned earlier, Doug, what a dynamic marketplace is, and I was referring to distribution opportunities, but the same thing would apply on the advertising front. And Ben Sherwood and I had a discussion yesterday about this as related to the non ESPN media networks. And just about everything is on the table right now, including ad load and pricing and advertising integration into programming, as for instance.
And I think you're going to see just a lot of shifting in terms of not only what we're selling, but how advertisers are buying into all different kinds of television product. I don't know that right now it's a time to declare anything specific in terms of and that's obviously evident in how everybody is feeling about the upfront.
And Doug, to answer your question on the resort bookings to date for the Q3 being up 5%, that is incorporating the fiscal year our fiscal year impact of the Easter the way it fell this year. So the short answer to your question is yes, it does incorporate that.
And Bob, if I could follow-up, I mean, maybe I'm fishing here a little bit, but you have a much greater exposure to affiliate revenue in your Media Networks business than advertising revenue. Is that a position that you prefer? Do you think affiliate revenue is you've got a lot more visibility over the next 5 years than advertising revenue? Or do you think perhaps it will end up being the reverse?
Well, we're at a very high level when it comes to affiliate revenue. And you're right, in terms of the total number, we do have more exposure as well. We have in the past preferred that to advertising, although there's nothing wrong with advertising. We certainly drive a lot of it because of the certainty. Obviously, with the discussion that's been in the marketplace about the shifting dynamics of distribution and to some extent some of the sub erosion, that would perhaps call some of that into question.
But we would still take our hand in terms of being more subscription centric than advertising centric because of that we still there's much more certainty in that than advertising, which, as you know, tends to be somewhat cyclical in nature, at times can be fickle in nature based on a variety of other conditions. And as we look at distribution, we still think that there's huge demand for these channels, particularly in the United States, but worldwide as well. And while consumers are clearly shifting their habits in terms of television, we still think that the subscription channel model is going to dominate the marketplace for certainly the next 5 years, if not many years thereafter.
Thanks so much.
Hey Doug, thanks for those questions. Operator, next question please.
Our next question comes from Ben Swinburne from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Thank you. One for One for Bob and a follow-up for Christine. Bob, can you talk a little bit about how you're looking at the Sling product roadmap? DISH talked in their call about wanting to bring Disney's channels into their multi stream service and you've been quite complimentary of the single stream product lately. I'm just wondering how you feel about, A, them offering 2 different products in the marketplace shortly?
Or multi stream product? Whether the Hulu plans sort of impact your thought process there? And then I have a quick follow-up for Christine.
When we initially launched on Sling, we liked the single stream. It was a new product, and we wanted to be careful about the impact of that on our bigger business. When Sling decided to launch the multi stream product, we were unable to conclude an agreement with them right away, meaning to launch with them when they launched the product. But they've subsequently come back and engaged with us. In fact, I talked to Charlie Ergen.
I met with Charlie Ergen personally a couple of weeks ago, and we're engaged in discussions with him about possibly being included in the new product in the future. But I don't want to comment more on those discussions. And I don't think Hulu, at least from our perspective, didn't have an impact on it at all. We're looking for multiple opportunities to distribute our product new platforms because as I said earlier, we like what the new platforms offer to consumers. And we'll continue to look pretty expansively at current and new entrants in the marketplace.
And we believe there will be even newer entrants in the marketplace, Hulu being included in the months years ahead.
Got it. And then Christine, just going back to cable, would you be able to give us the domestic affiliate revenue growth for the quarter? And are you should we be thinking that you're reiterating the 3 year CAGR on OI for cable, which I think is mid single digits? Is that still what we should be thinking about, the 2 quarters left?
The domestic cable affiliate revenue outlook that was updated last August of high single digits is still intact. And that, as you know, is from fiscal 2013 to fiscal 2016 on a compounded annual rate. So that is still intact.
In the OI? Sorry.
In the OI, that component of the outlook is intact as well. That was cable operating income up mid single digits over that same time period, still on a compounded annual growth rate. And on the domestic cable affiliate revenue growth, this quarter as well as last quarter, we gave you total Media Networks and total cable affiliate revenue growth, and we gave you some broad color on the broadcasting affiliate revenue growth as well. We won't be providing domestic cable affiliate revenue growth. We manage our media businesses collectively, and we negotiate our affiliate agreements on a consolidated basis, and that's how we're going to report the affiliate revenue.
And if you recall, we started providing domestic cable affiliate revenue because there were a number of business model changes with our international but that created some noise in our affiliate growth comparisons, and those changes are largely behind us.
Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Thanks, Ben. Operator, next question please.
Our next question comes from Jason Bazinet from Citi. Please go ahead.
Just a question for Mr. Iger. I think even before the decision to shutter Infinity, we were at least getting questions from institutional investors about Disney acquiring a console or a video game company, I should say. I'm not going to ask you to comment on that, but can you just refresh us in terms of what caused you to start as a licenser of your content, pivot into consoles and now move back into licensing what the lessons learned were?
We thought we had a really good opportunity to launch our own product in that space. I realize it was console space, but it was also essentially a large component of it was the toys they call it toys to life space or toys to life business. And in fact, we did quite well with the first iteration of it, and we did okay with the second iteration. But that business is a changing business and we did not have enough substantially more risk, particularly when it comes to, substantially more risk, particularly when it comes to manufacturing and managing the inventory, the toy inventory of that business. In fact, as Christine noted, a good part of the write off that we just announced comes from having to write off that inventory that we took responsibility for when we went in the publishing business.
And we just feel that it's a changing space and that we're just better off at managing the risk that, that business delivers by licensing instead of publishing. It's just that simple. We did fine with the product initially. We actually made a good product. I give the developers a lot of credit for the product that they made.
It was But we knew going in that there'd be a lot of risk with this product. And the fact that we did so well initially gave us the confidence to continue with it. The truth of the matter is that the risk that we cited at the beginning when we went into this caught
up with us.
Our next question comes from Todd Juenger from Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking the question. Like most people, one for Christine and hopefully one for Bob. Christine, on the A and E equity income, I just wonder, I know there's a lot of puts and takes there and a new one with Vyze. I just hope you might be able to willing to comment on whether the sort of this quarter was emblematic of how it's going to look for a while with the start up move there with your partner Vice and or anything else we should be thinking about in terms of advertising affiliate that would affect that equity income for the next many quarters? And then, Bob, if you don't mind, I'd love to hear your thoughts on ABC.
You mentioned conversations with Ben Sherwood before. You've got new leadership at ABC. When you think about what you're hoping Bob Ben will accomplish there and what sort of his marching orders are, given all the changes in attracting prime time audiences and advertising and the back end value of content, what are we hoping to see there? What should we be looking for to see if it's on track and delivering what you're hoping? Thanks for your thoughts.
I'll take the first one, Todd. And on A and E, as you noted, A and E was down year over year. The biggest driver of that was a decrease in ad revenue coupled with an increase in programming impact of the conversion of the H2 channel to Viceland that factored through A and E's numbers. And Viceland, as you know, recently launched and it's still in a startup phase. So I think you have to give them time to get up to speed.
And A and E is dealing with some aging shows and putting on new programming. And so this is just something that we'll be watching on a quarterly basis.
I've known Channing Dungey for a long time. Putting her in charge of primetime programming, I think, is a move. And I have the utmost confidence in Ben as well. I don't know that there's a big headline here. I've said to Ben what I've said publicly and what Ben and I are both in accord on this, and that is that you have to look at the business as not just a distribution or a network business, but as a content creation business too.
And ABC, under ABC Productions, has done a great job of creating content that is leverageable beyond the ABC network into a world that has an unbelievable appetite for that content. And that's just that's not just domestic, that's globally as well. So the goal at ABC is to program the network aggressively, but to also support our studio operation aggressively because that is a very, very important, if not integral component of the value chain. The obvious is the most obvious, and that is make great programming. These days, there's so much there's so many more series that are available to consumers.
And it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on programmers not only to make things great, but to make things that make noise that stand out. And the other thing that I and that's, I think, again a given. The other thing that I've mentioned is I don't think he should be held back by any of the old rules. And he should think out of the box. The world has changed so much that the old rules just don't always apply, and he needs to, I think, consider that.
And that's about it. I've seen all the pilots this year. I had the ability to watch most of them while I was in China last week, believe it or not. And I like what I see. And as I said earlier, I like the marketplace.
And I think given the ownership of programming and the fact that a lot of these new shows are ours and a lot of the shows that we put on last year, including Quantico, that has done quite well are ours. I feel good about the prospects for that business.
Thank you very much.
Thanks, Todd. Operator, we have time for one more question.
Okay. And our final question comes from David Miller from Topeka Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Yes, thanks. Just one for Christine. Looking at the Park margins here of 15.9%, truly outstanding for a fiscal Q2, just given that fiscal Q2 is usually your weakest quarter. Christine, in your opinion, how much of this is due to My Magic Plus? How much of a contributor is that, just given that the design of MyMagic Plus was to just get people moving around more, get people to have a more efficient experience, if you will, around the parks.
Just curious what the contribution was, if there's any way you can quantify it. Thank
you. Thanks, Davey. MyMagic plus has been around for several quarters and a few years. So it's really been incorporated into the base business and the way the Parks manage their business. So I think another way of looking at Parks margins is to look at the strength of the domestic operations this quarter.
And as you noted, the 15.9% was a total segment, including our international operations, but that the domestic business was up 20% in OI and their margins were up 300 basis points. So it has it's part of the way we do our business,
but the business domestically has done
extremely well.
Okay, wonderful.
Thank you very much.
I want to add one thing. I'm actually kind of surprised that after almost 45 minutes of questioning, we didn't get one question about our studio. But I just want to reiterate that the studio's results were up tremendously in the quarter and up over 60% for the 1st 2 quarters of the year. They've had 3 movies in the market place just recently: Zootopia, which is well over 900,000,000 worldwide Jungle Book, which is well over 700,000,000 worldwide and climbing and then Captain America, which had one of the best openings any movie has had in the history of the business. And their slate going forward is just fantastic, whether you're looking at Disney live action, Disney Animation, Pixar or Marvel and Lucas.
And I just feel that we've done a lot of work as a company to grow that business. In fact, studio OI for the first half of the year is over 1,500,000,000 dollars And I just want to make sure that we give credit where credit is due to a studio that has done a fantastic job it is firing on more than all cylinders. Thank you.
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