Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. My name is Erica, and I will be the conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the DXP Enterprises Inc 2023 second quarter earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I am now turning the call over to Kent Yee, CFO.
Thank you, Erica, thank you to everyone for joining us today. This is Kent Yee, welcome to DXP's Q2 2023 conference call to discuss our results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2023. Joining me today is our Chairman and CEO, David Little. Before we get started, I want to remind you that today's call is being webcast and recorded and includes forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. A description of the many factors that we believe may have a material effect on our business on an ongoing basis are contained in our SEC filings. However, DXP assumes no obligation to update that information as a result of new information or future events. During this call, we may present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures.
A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in our earnings press release. The press release and an accompanying investor presentation are now available on our website at ir.dxpe.com. I will now turn the call over to David Little, our Chairman and CEO, to provide his thoughts and a summary of our second quarter performance and financial results.
Good morning, and thank you, Kent. Thanks to everyone for joining us today on our fiscal 2023 second quarter conference call. We are pleased to see end market demand and DXP's performance continue through Q2 and remain at record levels through the first half of 2023. This allows us to achieve another quarter of both solid sales growth and 10% EBITDA margins. Overall, we had a great second quarter and strong first half of 2023. We are establishing new highs for DXP and look forward to the second half of 2023. The first half of 2023 highlights solid execution and continued positive demand trends, supported by our ability to grow organically and navigate the dynamic supply chain and pricing environment.
We continue to execute our acquisition strategy to continue to grow our DXP water and wastewater platform, adding Florida Valve and Riordan Materials during the quarter. We continue to execute on our goals to diversify DXP's business while maintaining our commitment to foundational end markets, like energy, that have been and will always be a part of DXP. This is DXP's second quarter of adjusted EBITDA margins in excess of 10%, which is great to see, and we look forward to maintaining this profitability momentum. This speaks to our relentless drive... we have to center our strategy around our customers, remain customer-driven experts while creating a win-win for all our stakeholders. We remain highly focused on providing the expertise our customers have come to expect from DXP by providing more efficient solutions, reduced costs, and achieving their ESG objectives. This consistent approach has fueled our financial results.
Second quarter Adjusted EBITDA of $45.3 million and diluted earnings per share of $1.06 was supported by year-over-year sales growth of 16.4%. Thanks to our efforts of all our DXP people across the company, we continue to grow and further our positive momentum, driving further operational improvements while performing for our customers. Our key end markets continue to perform for DXP and potentially have secular trends that we are just beginning to see, including energy, power, chemicals, and aerospace. I personally want to thank all our DXP stakeholders, in particular, all our DXP people, for their determination and hard work as we continue to grow and improve the business and achieve new sales highs for our business.
As we move into the second half of the year, we remain confident that our well-balanced business, strong balance sheet, exceptional teams, improved capabilities, and robust acquisition pipeline position us well to navigate the current environment and achieve continued success. I will begin today with some perspective on our second quarter and thoughts on the remainder of 2023. Kent will take you through the key financial results after my remarks. After his prepared comments, we will open for Q&A. Again, let me thank our DXP stakeholders, in particular, our DXP people, for their continued efforts, adaptability as we grow and evolve DXP into a more diversified and less cyclical business. Total DXP sales for Q2 increased 16.4% year-over-year.
One percent sequentially, or were $428 million, or average of $6.8 million per business day for the second quarter. Thank you to the 2,757 DXP people for your hard work and dedication. In terms of Q2 financial results, service centers led the way, growing sales 18.85% year-over-year, followed by Supply Chain Services, growing sales 12.29%, and then Innovative Pumping Solutions, growing sales 9.78% year-over-year. In terms of service centers, the diversity of end markets and MRO nature within service centers allowed us to continue to remain resilient and continue to experience consistent top-line growth. Additionally, our Cisco acquisition continues to perform as we close out the fiscal year of Cisco being with DXP.
From a regional perspective, a majority of our regions continue to experience year-over-year growth, including the Rocky Mountains, Southeast, and Texas Gulf Coast. We continue to expect that our end markets will remain constructive over the foreseeable future. As it pertains to energy, we believe we could be in the early stages of an upcycle supported by energy transition, which has been consistent with our recent commentary over the last three quarters. Supply Chain Services continues to experience year-over-year due to the addition of a new diversified chemical customer during Q2 and Q3 of last year. As we move into Q3, we will look for new customer additions as we, well as continue to manage procuring products and managing inflation. Both year-over-year and sequential growth will flatten out until we start ramping new customers.
That said, demand for SCS services is increasing because of the proven technology and efficiencies they perform for all their industrial customers. The sales cycle can be protracted, and we will look to our SCS leaders to add new customers as we move into 2024. In terms of IPS, or Innovative Pumping Solutions, our Q2 average IPS backlog continues to stay ahead of the fiscal 2022 average. Additionally, our year-to-date average for the first time started to exceed our long-term average, our IPS backlog, going back to 2015. What this indicates is that we are continuing to get bookings, as we mentioned earlier, and we are likely in the front end of a good cycle on the energy-related project work that we look forward to as we move through 2023.
As we maintain growth, our main focus within IPS will be managing the demand levels we have, finding opportunities in all markets such as energy, biofuels, food and beverage, and water and wastewater, and pricing appropriately given the supply chain dynamics and ebbs and flows of inflation. DXP's overall gross profit margins for the quarter were 30.8%, sequentially, 133 basis point improvement over Q1 and 245 basis point improvement over Q2 of last year. A special thanks to our DXP people who have stayed on top of supplier product increases, labor costs, and overall efficiencies. Overall, DXP produced Adjusted EBITDA of $45.3 million and Adjusted EBITDA as a percent of sales of 10.6%, which reflects the operating leverage we expect to get with significant sales growth.
This also marks our second sequential quarter of 10%+ EBITDA margins. We will look for this to continue as we move through the second half of 2023. Regarding capital allocations, we continue to make investments to fuel growth and diversify DXP through acquisitions, while opportunistically repurchasing shares. By balancing these two approaches, we are driving long-term value for our customers. Excuse me, shareholders. We are continuing to return value to our shareholders through our $85 million share repurchase program. During the quarter, we purchased 749,000 shares, amounting to $23.957 million. Let me conclude my remarks by saying that I am encouraged by our continued sequential improvement in sales and profitabilities. We continue to make progress on growth strategies. Our commitment to customers is stronger than ever.
We are driving growth and improvements at DXP. We look forward to navigating and working through the remainder of fiscal 2023. Finally, I would like to thank our DXP people for achieving our goal of ten, ten and ten again. We aim to keep the streak alive. Q2 was another great quarter as we continue to have a successful year in 2023. With that, I will now turn this back over to Kent. He will review the financials in more detail.
Thank you, David, and thank you to everyone for joining us for our review of our second quarter 2023 financial results. The first half of 2023 continues to highlight our strong year-over-year sales performance and two quarters of 10% plus adjusted EBITDA margins. We are excited to report these results, and we look forward to the second half of 2023. Specifically, Q2 financial per-performance reflects our eleventh quarter of sequential sales increases and another record-high sales watermark for DXP. DXP continues to successfully navigate through the market and has been able to execute and create value for all our stakeholders. We have been successful in transforming and diversifying DXP, but we still have progress to make.
As it pertains to our second quarter, Q2 takeaways are as follows: strong organic sales growth and contribution from acquisitions, continued impacts from inflation or price increases compared to a year ago, albeit at a slower pace, continued record service center performance marked by gross margin strength and stability, notable year-over-year and sequential growth in IPS with a positive outlook in terms of our backlog and energy activity, strong sales increases within SCS, driven by the addition of a large, diversified chemical customer compared to a year ago, although plateauing during Q2, consistent operating leverage leading to sustained adjusted EBITDA margins and significant capital return to shareholders through our share repurchase program. Total sales for the second quarter increased 16.4% year-over-year and 0.9% sequentially to a record $428 million.
Acquisitions that have been with DXP for less than a year contributed $7.3 million in sales during the quarter. Average daily sales for the second quarter were $6.8 million per day versus $6.6 million per day in Q1, 2023, and $5.8 million per day in Q2, 2022. Adjusting for acquisitions, average daily sales were $6.7 million per day for the second quarter. That said, the average daily sales trends during the quarter went from $6.65 million per day in April to $6.9 million per day in June, reflecting a typical quarter end push as we closed out the second quarter. In terms of our business segments, service centers grew 18.9% year-over-year.
This was followed by Supply Chain Services growing 12.3% year-over-year, and Innovative Pumping Solutions growing sales 9.8% year-over-year. Excluding acquisitions, service centers grew 18.85%, or sales increased $47.3 million, while Innovative Pumping Solutions sales increased 9.78%, or sales increased $5.65 million. In terms of our service centers, regions within the service center business segment, which experienced notable sales growth year-over-year, include the Ohio River Valley, North Rockies, Texas Gulf Coast, and the Southeast. Key products and end markets driving the sales performance include air compressors, rotating equipment, and general industrial, chemical, food and beverage, transportation, and energy.
Supply Chain Services performance continues to reflect the impact of the addition of a large, diversified chemical customer that we added in Q2 of last year and has fully ramped as of Q2 this year. This customer contributed $15.9 million in sales during the quarter. Other notable gains from an end market perspective within SCS include growth within our energy and food and beverage customers compared to a year ago. In terms of Innovative Pumping Solutions, we continue to experience increases in the energy-related backlog.
Our Q2 energy-related average backlog grew 6.5% over our Q1 average backlog, which is a notable uptick compared to Q1 of this year and continues to be ahead of our 2016 and 2017 average backlog, now is only down 1.5% when comparing to the 2015 average backlog. The conclusion continues to remain that we are trending meaningfully above 2016 and 2017 sales levels, and we are moving towards 2015 levels based upon where our backlog stands today. We have been experiencing strong organic sales growth within IPS, as we mentioned in Q1. We expect that to continue throughout 2023. Additionally, we are also continuing to find opportunities in other markets, as David mentioned, including biofuels, hydrogen, carbon capture and sequestration versus our traditional oil and gas.
We expect energy to contribute meaningfully going forward. Turning to our gross margins, DXP's total gross margins were 30.8%, a 245 basis point improvement over Q2 2022, excuse me. This improvement was across all of our business segments, with IPS showing the greatest improvement, with margins improving 481 basis points on a year-over-year comparative basis. That said, from a segment mix, sales contribution, service centers contributed 69.7%, Supply Chain Services, 15.5%, and Innovative Pumping Solutions was 14.8%. Compared to last year, SCS's sales mix contribution was higher at 16%, which impacted DXP's margins in Q2 of 2022.
In terms of operating income, combined, all three business segments increased 143 basis points or $13.7 million a year-over-year business segment operating income versus Q2 2022. This was primarily driven by improvements in operating income margins within service centers and IPS. Service center operating income margins improved 190 basis points, and IPS operating income margins improved 94 basis points, excuse me, on a Q2 comparative basis, year-over-year. The improvement in service centers reflects the impact of acquisitions at a higher relative operating income margin. Total DXP operating income increased 17 basis points versus Q2 2022 to $37.5 million. Our SG&A for the quarter increased $16 million from Q2 2022 to $94.4 million.
The increase reflects the growth in the business and associated incentive compensation, as well as DXP investing in its people through merit and pay, pay raises, as well as increased headcount. SG&A, as a percentage of sales, increased 75 basis points year-over-year to 22.1% of sales. The increase primarily reflects the impact of acquisitions, plus a 70 basis point uptick from Q1 on total SG&A. We still anticipate that DXP will benefit from the leverage inherent in the business, despite increasing operating dollars supporting our growth, cost inflation, and the impact of acquisitions. Turning to EBITDA, Q2 2023 Adjusted EBITDA was a record $45.3 million. Adjusted EBITDA margins were 10.6%. This is our second quarter of sequential Adjusted EBITDA margins in excess of 10%, and we look for this to continue.
Year-over-year, Adjusted EBITDA margins increased 264 basis points or $12.7 million. This reflects the fixed cost SG&A leverage we experience as we grow sales. This translated into 2.5x operating leverage. In terms of our EPS, our net income for Q2 was $19 million. Our earnings per diluted share for Q2 2023 was $1.06 per share versus $0.74 per share last year. Of note, we returned $25.1 million to shareholders through the share repurchase during Q2. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow. In terms of working capital, our working capital increased $22.4 million from December and $15.8 million from March to $299.4 million. As a % of last 12 months sales, this amounted to 18.2%.
We are still at a point where we are in line with our historical average or ranges in terms of investing in working capital. As discussed in Q3 of last year, this has begun to move off our Q3 2022 high of 19.9% of last 12 months sales, as we have onboarded some of our recent acquisitions for a full 12 months. We do anticipate further acquisitions, as we move into the second half of 2023, this could move upwards. In terms of cash, we had $15.5 million in cash on the balance sheet as of June 30. This is a decrease of $30.6 million compared to the end of Q4 and $42.7 million since March.
This reflects the purchases of two acquisitions, Florida Valve and Riordan Materials, and share repurchases, which we will touch in a little more detail later on in my comments. In terms of CapEx, CapEx in the second quarter was $1.8 million, or a decrease of $2 million compared to Q1 2023. We are still ahead of our fiscal year 2022 levels as we reinvest in some of our facilities and equipment on behalf of our employees. As we move forward, we will continue to invest in the business as we focus on growth. Turning to free cash flow, free cash flow through Q2 or year to date was a positive $18.4 million, which reflects a -$4.2 million during the second quarter. This reflects significant investments in project work, along with a reduction in payable days.
That said, while we continue to make improvements in our free cash flow when we are growing, DXP makes significant investments in inventory and project work throughout the year, and we have experienced significant step-up since Q4 of last year. Return on Invested Capital, ROIC, at the end of the second quarter was 32% and continues to be above our cost of capital and is reflecting our improved profitability levels. As of June 30, our fixed charge coverage ratio was 2.73 to 1, and our secured leverage ratio was 2.53 to 1, with a covenant EBITDA for the last 12 months of $161.9 million. Total debt outstanding on June 30 was $425.9 million.
In terms of liquidity, as of the quarter, we were undrawn on our ABL with $2.7 million in letters of credit outstanding, with $132.3 million of availability and liquidity of $147.8 million, including DXP's $15.5 million in cash on the balance sheet. In terms of acquisitions, we closed on two acquisitions during the quarter, Riordan Materials and Florida Valve. We are excited to have them reporting with us for the second quarter of 2023. Welcome to DXP, Florida Valve and Riordan. Both provide leading platforms within the municipal and industrial water and wastewater industries. DXP's acquisition pipeline continues to grow, the market continues to present compelling opportunities. Our acquisition strategy has created significant value for DXP, enhancing our end markets, margins, and DXP's cash flow profile.
Looking forward, we expect this to continue through 2023, and we, we look forward to closing a minimum of two to four acquisitions during the second half of 2023. Updating our thoughts on capital allocation, our primary goal still remains to invest in our business, including the execution of our acquisition strategy. We are also committed to maintaining a conservative balance sheet, as demonstrated by a target leverage ratio of 3.5 x or less. To the extent we have excess capital after achieving these objectives, the share repurchase program will provide us the mechanism to return capital to our shareholders. During the quarter, as previously mentioned, we repurchased $25.1 million, and year to date, $34.2 million in DXP stock, or a total of 749,000 shares in Q2 and 1.1 million shares year to date.
As we move into the second half of the year, we remain confident that our well-balanced business, strong balance sheet, exceptional DXP people, growing capabilities, and strong acquisition pipeline position us well to navigate the current environment and achieve continued success. Balance in market mix and geographic coverage offer us multiple avenues to grow and create value for our customers and suppliers, while providing important resiliency in unpredictable markets. In summary, we are pleased with our progress at the halfway mark, and we look forward to finishing 2023 strong as we approach Q3 and Q4. I will now turn the call over for questions.
At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press stars and the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes to the line of Tommy Moll from Stephens Inc. Tommy, go ahead.
Good morning, thank you for taking my questions.
Good morning, Tommy.
Good morning.
I wanted to start on some of the average daily sales insight you provided. I first just want to make sure I heard correctly. It's $6.8 million reported. That would be $6.7 million, excluding the M&A impact. Did I hear that correctly?
Yes, that's correct, Tommy.
Okay. Then, Kent, you provided some of the monthly insight. Can you just run through the months again, and were those, at, on an as-reported basis, or were those excluding the M&A as well?
Okay. Yeah, just to answer that latter question, Tommy, that includes acquisitions. What I'll do is I'll, I'll walk you through the trend on the quarter, and give you a flash, a draft flash for July. April was 6.65, May, 6.5, June, 6.9, and then July, 6.57.
Thank you. That's helpful.
Yeah, and so our year-to-date average, I, I just add a little further insight there, Tommy. Our year-to-date average is averaging about 6.6%. You know, hopefully, that gives you a little bit of insight to kind of the trends in DXP.
Yeah. Then the, the $428 million you reported for the quarter, I think it was the 11th consecutive of sequential sales increase. Based on that July trend and, and everything, you know, today, would your best guess be that Q3 could be up again sequentially from that $428? Or is there another factor you'd point us to where a flat or even a down sequential might be more realistic at this point?
I'll take that one, Tommy. Yeah, we, we want to keep our streak alive, and we're working hard, and we have a lot of growth strategies to do so, even though, I, I think there's no question that, that the Fed is using interest rates to slow the economy down, and, and we see that in, in certain markets, and then, and then we see growth in certain markets. It, it kinda, it kinda depends on the mix of all that, but, but aerospace and energy and, and, and certainly water and wastewater and food and beverage, those are, those are markets that are growing for us.
We're working really, really hard to, I guess, overcome some of the other markets that are, that are slowing down a little bit. But I think when you put it all together, our goal and optimism is that we'll keep the streak alive, even though I don't consider a small percentage of growth to be a negative. I consider, you know, if we do as an example, I think if we do 1% growth in the third quarter, that'll be a 12% growth year-over-year, we'd certainly be happy with that.
Fair enough.
Yeah, Tommy, Tommy, the only thing I would add to it is, you know, and you asked it at the front end of the, just the sales per business day is, you know, our pipeline, acquisition pipeline still remains in place. If we get one or two done in the quarter, just depending upon the timing, you know, we, you know, we could, you know, that would fit with David's comments, and those are always additive. If that gives you some more insight.
Yep, that's helpful. Thank you. On margins, second quarter in a row above 10% for EBITDA. Peeling back the layers, you got a pretty big tailwind on the gross margin side, just under 31% for the quarter, which is the highest in a long time. I wondered if we could talk to the gross margin performance. What can you tell us about the price-cost dynamic and the inflationary cycle? At the same time, is there any M&A or mix impact worth calling out as well on that gross margin performance?
Yeah, sure. There's, there's certainly... Our goal is, is to do, to do 30, so to exceed that slightly is a real plus for us, and we're, we're certainly happy to get that. When we look at what makes that, that happen, we do go to mix, and our, our certain of our businesses are higher growth, profit-oriented than others. As an example, Supply Chain Services has a very low growth. I mean, it's like, it's 20%, but the rest G&A is 10%, so they still make a, a 10%, or greater, well, slightly below that, operating income margin, but, but an EBITDA margin of 10. They contribute, and then of course, their investment on working capital is they don't have a lot of inventory and stuff like that.
The customer keeps all that. We're happy with the returns we get with Supply Chain Services. I don't wanna mislead anybody about that, 'cause we're, we're certainly very happy about it. But it does, if that's a bigger portion of what we're doing going forward, well, then gross margins will come down because, because they operate on, on very low gross margins, but very low expenses also. Other water and wastewater has high gross profit margins because they have. This is a long explanation, but I'm gonna give it to you. I think it'll be helpful. They have a lot of jobs that they do on commissions, and so actually, in that sense, their gross profit margin on those types of jobs is 100%. That is helpful.
They do a, they do an awful lot of buy resale too, and those margins are healthy also. Innovative Pumping Solutions is kind of a 3 bid and a buy. You're doing big project, $1 million projects, so they get into competitive situations. They're not their margins aren't as low as Supply Chain Services, but they're lower than the service center margins. So again, if the more that grows as a percentage of our MRO service center business, well, then that can pull back on margins also. But that's what I'm talking about is there is a blend of margins, of course, the blend works out to 30 plus, or our goal is 30% overall.
That, that seems to be achievable, and we don't, we don't see anything. There's no one time anything out there or anything of any significance that would drive that, that down, besides mix and, and, and some products sometimes. I'm, I'm very, very pleased with our people's ability to pass on inflation and supplier costs and, and labor costs, and et cetera. We're, we're, we're pleased with those results, and we, we tend to think that, you know, they're gonna hang around there. You know, whether it's 29.5 or 30.5, makes, makes no difference to me, really. I mean, it makes a difference in the sense that it's, it's better, but I'd, I'd be happy with either one of those numbers.
Yep. I wanna talk about M&A in depth, before we hit that topic, let's address the oil and gas market dynamics. I mean, you're looking at crude back into the mid-80s. At the same time, the rig count has drifted down this year. What observations would you have for us about the underlying trends there?
I, I study that pretty hard. Here, here's what I, here's what I know, and of course, there's a lot I don't know, but, but here's what I know. I know that the drilling we do nowadays is with lateral lines going from 1 mile to 2 miles, that the efficiencies of each well drilled is, is much greater. We can have less rigs and still be producing, more oil, so, or gas. This is on the drilling side. Of course, we're not tied to drilling, we're tied, we're tied to production. That is, is, is kind of 1 factor. The other factor is, is that, you know, we started off with 9,000 DUCs, drilled, uncompleted wells, and, and that's down to 4,000 something.
I'm not giving you exact numbers, so don't hold me to that. In that range, that's also not needing new drilling to produce more production, so that's, that's helpful too. That said, the last part of the equation is that oil and gas is a depleting resource, so they have to produce more to just keep even. We're kind of, at, at the rate we're at right now today, we're kind of staying even. You know, it's been 11.9 to 12.3, so it's kind of been in that range, probably 12.2 million barrels a day, as, as we speak. That's kind of how all that, that works.
It, it's, it's good for us, in terms of kind of midstream, the equipment that's on the well site, the gathering system, and et cetera. We see activity where we play as being very, very strong. When we mention energy, we have to talk about renew, you know, other sources of energy. We're playing in those markets likewise, we're doing hydrogen projects, we're doing corn to ethanol. We're playing in a lot of the other markets that are designed around energy, even the service and repair of windmills and things like that. We're not in solar panels, we certainly don't manufacture wind turbines, we do work on them.
I think when we think of energy, we think of this balance between that we're going to renewable fuels, and we're playing in that, and then we'll never quite get it right. There may not be enough oil and gas that renewable can take over. When that happens, then oil and gas prices are gonna go up, and then everybody will get dynamic around that. It's a moving ball. I'm not here thinking I know everything. If I did, I'd really make a lot of money.
I don't have a perfect answer, but those are some of the factors that we're looking at, and they're all pointing to the fact that we think that, that renewables and oil and gas are both needed to do more to serve the world with energy. We think that the coming year or years is gonna be a strong market.
Moving on to M&A, I, I think I heard you guys mention something in the, in the realm of two to four deals, you hope to close by the end of the year. Any insight you can give us on what that pipeline looks like? Are we talking tuck-ins or maybe something larger, or whatever insight you can provide, though I recognize it's delicate, given these are still in the pipeline, but anything you can provide is helpful.
Yeah, just some high-level comments there, Tommy. One, I like to always signal that, hey, you know, the M&A markets seem to be strong, and there's, there's plenty of opportunities there for DXP. Secondly, more specifically to our pipeline, the two to four, they continue to play on our major themes of water, wastewater, rotating equipment, broadly speaking as well, just as a product category. More importantly, you know, valuations are in line with our expectations. So, you know, for us, getting the two to four seems more than reasonable. If they're in the water, wastewater space, obviously, they're, they're accretive to our margins, both gross margins as well as EBITDA margins.
If they're in the rotating equipment space, by the way, they're, they're typically accretive to our gross margins and our EBITDA margins. We're excited, point being, about our pipeline and what we see there, spending a lot of time being more selective, to be candid, because of the fullness of the pipeline, and so, we feel good. Some of them are more tuck-in, in terms of size, and then others, in the aggregate, could be a closer to around our average acquisition size. Our average acquisition size being anywhere between $25 million-$35 million in sales from an acquisition standpoint. We'll see which ones get across the finish line before year-end, but we also feel good about going into 2024, to be candid.
You mentioned water, wastewater a couple of times there, Kent, and this, this is the last theme I wanted to make sure we hit on today, but it's clearly been an emphasis in, in terms of inorganic capital allocation and the deals you've done in the last couple of years. you mentioned that it tends to be margin accretive...
Yep
Which I presume is one of the reasons you're attracted to it. Maybe even at a higher level, refresh us on the strategy for building out that platform, what you like about the structure of that market. If you look back at the progress you've made and the platform you have today, how would you characterize it in terms of scale, and how much more scale do you hope to add going forward? Thank you.
Yeah, maybe I'll just hit that, and then I'll let David chime in on the big picture strategy around water, wastewater. You know, we've, we've always viewed it as a platform that, that we could, we could scale up between $ 350 million- $500 million at least platform. Just to give you a sense of scale, today, we're a little bit north of $100 million. Then, you know, what I would also say, and then I'll let, let this be a segue to David, is we've always played in the water, wastewater platform. It's just something we didn't necessarily, historically, make the intentful decision as we are in today's market, decide to grow via acquisition.
And I, and I'll use that just as a segue to David to explain to you why, but, we really like it, and, as you picked up on, it's accretive to our margins on a variety of fronts. David?
Specifically, you know, it's, it's not a, you know, it's not really a cyclical business. It's, you know, people eat and go to the bathroom and do all the stuff that they do, and so we need water, we need clean water, we need to dispose of waste, we need to do all these things. Then, and so the market and the infrastructure that's gotten kind of old, and there's a lot of repair and replacement activity that, that's going on, and so that, that's really driving this particular part of the industry upward. The other parts to explain it correctly, too, is Kent mentioned it, but, you know, we're, we're a pump, we're a pump company. We represent pumps that go into industrial and utility-type businesses.
Being pump people, we understand the technical side of pumps. We understand the repair and service of pumps. Water, we've played in that via pumps, we understand that aspect of the product. When we look at adding things to that product, we look at not only more repair, but we also look at, at some valves that are specific to that industry. We look at automation, and, that's specific to that industry. There's kind of... We're building this platform that takes these five legs to the stool, so to speak, and that's the pump, the valve, the repair, the automation, and then the last one is a little new for us, but it's process equipment.
It's, it's equipment, so we're, we're certainly used to that, but it's, it also has some chemical aspects to it and stuff like that. All those other three legs, valves and process equipment and automation are, are a little newer to us, and so that's a great growth opportunity to the people that were in municipal, but they were just doing pumps. This has been a really exciting, time and, and growth strategy that not only are we acquiring people across the United States that are, that are in this business, but we're actually bringing things to them to help them grow their business, where they might not have been a, a great growth company in the past. The market's better.
What we bring to them is, is better. The customer, finally, he likes somebody that can bring more than just one offering to him. The fact that you can bring pumps, and you can bring the process equipment, and then you can service it, and you can install it, et cetera, is very exciting.
Well, we'll look forward to continuing to follow the progress there. For today's purposes, that's all I have. I'll, I'll turn it back.
Thank you, Tommy.
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