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The 52nd J.P. Morgan Annual Global Technology, Media & Communications Conference

May 21, 2024

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

All right, we're gonna go ahead and get started. I'm Doug Anmuth, J.P. Morgan's internet analyst. We're very pleased to have with us today eBay President and CEO Jamie Iannone and CFO Steve Priest. eBay is one of the world's largest and most vibrant marketplaces for discovering great value and unique selection. The company empowers millions of buyers and sellers in more than 190 markets around the world. eBay enabled about $73 billion of GMV last year. Jamie has more than 20 years of experience across digital pure play and omni-channel marketplaces. Prior to returning to eBay 4 years ago, he was COO of Walmart eCommerce and CEO of SamsClub.com.

Also, prior to that, EVP of digital products at Barnes & Noble, and spent eight years at eBay, before that, across a number of various leadership positions. Steve has been CFO for nearly three years. Prior to joining eBay, Steve was CFO of JetBlue, and before that, he spent nearly 20 years at British Airways. Welcome, Jamie and Steve.

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

Thank you, Doug. Good to see you.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Good to see you.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

All right. So let's kick off a little bit bigger picture. You're reinventing the future of e-commerce for enthusiasts. Talk to us about this evolution of the platform, how this new strategy is going, where you see the biggest opportunities.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah, thanks, Doug. So, really, we've focused on three key areas for us in reinventing the future of e-commerce for enthusiasts. The first is relevant experiences, building the, you know, ideal experience, whether it's a specific category, specific country, et cetera. It's a big part of our focus category strategy, where we're driving game-changing experiences from a CSAT perspective, which leads to more GMV, and really doing that across the board. The second element is scalable solutions. eBay is a $73 billion business with over 130 million buyers. You can ship to 190 countries, so leveraging that incredible scale to drive new opportunities.

The two most relevant that we've driven over the past couple of years is payments, and advertising, but we continue to use our scale, launching new efforts like eBay International Shipping, new financial services programs, et cetera. And then the last pillar is what I would call magical innovations, and that's across the site, how do we launch, new AI-based experiences, AI, non-AI-based experiences? Really with this bar of taking all the friction out of the eBay experience, making it feel much more compelling and magical with what you do, making it more relevant for younger demographics, et cetera. So those are the three pillars that add up to what our kind of key strategies are for reinventing the future of e-commerce.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. Let's talk about AI. You're leveraging Gen AI, driving a lot of productivity improvements around customer care, developer productivity, overall tech velocity. Maybe you can talk about the roadmap there, both internally, in terms of how you're getting efficiencies, but then also as you see it for products and agents for customers.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah. So I'll separate it out. On the employee side, we look at how we leverage AI to make our employees more successful. So, obviously we're doing that in our call center. You can imagine with the number of transactions that we have, the call center takes a good number of calls, emails, chats, et cetera. And we're using AI there to really make that teammate's job easier, more successful, let them focus on revenue-driving things like advertising, because they can get through their calls faster. Just think of people used to send us very long emails about, you know, something that they wanted us to kind of take a look at. Now, you can use generative AI to summarize that, saves the teammate a lot of time in resolving a solution.

We're doing the same type of thing with our engineers on GitHub Copilot, really leveraging AI to make them more productive. Really, I can't think of a part of the organization that's not using AI to figure out how we make our employees more successful. We even use it in our tax group. You wanna talk about how we use AI in other functions?

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

Yeah, I mean, we've been using AI for well over a decade, and I think tax is a great example of this. As Jamie's talked about, reaching 190 countries, if you're selling a pair of casual boots versus a pair of working boots, the working boots attract a different VAT or a different indirect tax regime. And we've been able to use AI to basically discern how that specific sale should get treated. And so this is a part of our DNA and some of the initiatives that we've continued to drive over the last decade, and it's not just about the frontline customer experience. It's not just about the usual areas you'd think about in terms of engineering, customer support, et cetera, but we're looking at it across the whole enterprise.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

And I can talk about the customer-facing whenever you want.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Go for it.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Okay, so on the customer-facing side, across selling, buying, CRM, merch, I feel lucky to be the CEO of eBay right now because we've had AI for a long time. We, you know, search, advertising, risk modeling that we do. We have a great AI team, but the opportunity for us to use generative AI to fundamentally change the process of selling and buying on the site. You know, just take selling. We rolled out a feature we call Magical Listing, which, you know, writes the description for you, saves you a lot of time from doing that using generative AI. We have another version that we're working on, which basically, you just hold your camera up to it, and it takes out, you know, here's all the item specifics of that specific trading card. Here's the price. We know what it is.

It writes the description. And when you look at it, the average household has $4,000 of stuff that could be online, and less than 20% of that is online. And, you know, people have a lot of inventory. They usually say it's their spouse has a lot of inventory that could be sold online. But our opportunity to really change the selling experience, make pictures more compelling, is a huge opportunity. Same on the buying side. We just launched two features for our fashion vertical in the U.K., one called Shop the Look, which lets you shop across kind of whole outfits based on your style, you know, athleisure, Scandinavian minimalism, whatever it is, and puts together outfits.

Now, this is actually really compelling on eBay, because eBay is a completely unstructured marketplace, so it allows you to list just about anything that you have on the platform. Now you can do it in a much more compelling way. We're also launching a feed-based product called Explore, which helps you navigate, you know, your size, your styles, in more of a social media feed-like perspective. We're trialing that in the U.K., and we, you know, we think that'll be really compelling. If you just take a step back, eBay has an over $10 billion fashion business. People love the values that they can get on the marketplace. They love the unique items that they can get.

So bringing these capabilities to an experience that has been mainly search-based for two decades, we think is going to unlock some pretty rich and interesting opportunities for us, for our customers.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. Let's talk about macro a little bit. Remains challenging globally, for discretionary spending, just given the backdrop. What are you seeing today across U.S. and international markets?

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

Yeah, Doug, it certainly has been pretty volatile in terms of the macro environment we've been navigating for the last 8 quarters, and I think the team have done a very nice job working through that. I think about our 3 biggest markets, the U.S., the U.K., and Germany. The U.S., in fairness, has been slightly more resilient. But to your point, Doug, certainly because we lean into discretionary items, the U.S. consumer, the sentiment is down. They're obviously dealing with higher interest rates, housing costs, et cetera, so it is impacting the U.S. consumer. I think the U.K. and Germany are particularly interesting. They've had many quarters now of negative e-commerce growth. Think about the first quarter, where both Germany and the U.K. were in negative low single digits, and we're operating in that environment.

The U.K., for example, has just come out of a technical recession, so, we are obviously impacted by those macro headwinds. But again, I think the teams are doing a really nice job at sort of navigating that, and executing for the customer. And so, you know, puts our results in context when you think about the environments that we're operating within.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. Let's talk about focus categories. So obviously big, big effort across the company. Focus category GMV grew 5% in Q1. The rest of the business was down 1%. You're also looking to get focus categories to about half of GMV near term. How are you tracking toward that goal?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah. Very well. So that's still our medium-term target, is to get to half the business growing at market rates of growth. We think when we get out of, you know, the current macro dynamics, that'll be about high single digits, and that's kind of what we've outlaid, and we still feel very good about that. You've got to remember, you know, right now, Germany is effectively at a negative e-commerce, -2 across the board. U.K. is kind of in that same range. So we're dealing in an environment where a big part of our business is seeing negative e-commerce growth. But when we get to normalize, that's kind of the architecture that we've put together. I'll tell you a couple of things we feel great about.

One is, you know, even in this macro environment, our focus categories are growing 5%. When you look at our focus categories in aggregate, in 2023, we actually took share in those categories, and so feel really good about the overall performance, the positive growth that we're seeing across those businesses. And what's great about eBay's model is, you know, for those don't follow the story, in our focus categories, we've really moved, you know, customer satisfaction up, you know, in a lot of cases, like over 20 percentage points, and that's led to very strong GMV growth that we're seeing. But the unique thing about our model is the cross-category shopping behavior that we see.

So when we acquire, for example, a sneaker enthusiast, someone who buys sneakers over $100, they will spend $500 in sneakers, but they'll buy $2,000 across the rest of the site. And it's this huge multiplier benefit that we have on eBay. Means we can afford a really attractive CAC for acquiring those customers. It means we can really drive the CLTV, of what we're doing with, our overall portfolio of categories and, and offerings that we have, across eBay, and that's really unique. And we continue to innovate, not just on new categories. We launched a number of things in the UK around preloved fashion this quarter, but invest back into categories that we've already launched because we like the return that we're seeing in them, so we continue to push forward.

I can talk, if you want, about what we just did in collectibles this past quarter, but we just closed a relationship with Goldin and Collectors to actually really simplify the collecting experience on the platform. If you're a heavy collector, I don't know if we have collectors in this room, but a lot of people take an ungraded card to get it graded to see the value right after they buy it on eBay, or they'll take a graded product that they get a great grade for and, and go to list online. And historically, that was kind of a, you know, a multi-step process, and sending it to the grader, and getting it back, and then listing it, et cetera.

The idea was, is how do we build this partnership to help the hobby and the industry of trading with something like that? So that's an example of how we continue to push the envelope. As part of that, we've acquired Goldin Auctions, gives us the most desirable inventory in that category to have on the platform. I could talk about multiple other categories, but just a good example of how we like the ROI, Doug, we're seeing of the investments that we're making in focus categories. We like the, you know, the growth rates that we're able to drive there, and so we're gonna continue to do both, expand into new categories, invest in categories, 'cause we see the ROI and the return of what's working.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

... I know, focus categories is you're multiple years obviously into this, but if for someone who perhaps, you know, even someone in the room, for example, who hasn't shopped on eBay in a number of years, like, what would be most different to them in terms of the experience and what they're seeing in those focus categories in particular?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah, think about it this way: it's optimizing what's the ideal experience for a given category to really kind of change the experience to be leading in a category, but yet still be familiar enough that you could go shop across all of eBay. 'Cause one of the benefits is, you know, we get you into sneakers, then you start buying streetwear and everything else, and so that's a big opportunity for us. And so, you know, if I just take the example of, you know, handbags, right? If you look at our handbag experience, really rich pictures, we increase the number of pictures that you have. You can now take video and do videos of those products, et cetera.

Like in sneakers and watches, we authenticate those products, so before the customer actually receives them, they will get, a, that will stop and authenticate her, be a great experience on arrival, et cetera. We also intermediate the returns. We've built managed shipping, so we track the shipping throughout. So basically, think about it as everything you need to have an amazing experience in that category, but yet, you know, familiar enough across the eBay platform that you- after you buy handbags, you go buy watches or apparel or, or those types of things. That's what's the difference, and it's different for every category. In the example of our parts and accessories area, where we really focused was: how do we build the leading, experience there?

And in the U.K. and Germany, we are actually, you know, a leader in the parts and accessories area, and a very strong number two in the U.S. When you look at it, we built fitment finders to make it perfectly easy to be guaranteed that it fits your vehicle. We actually put that Authenticity Guarantee out there and said, "We guarantee it'll fit your vehicle, or you can return it for free." We built enhanced features in My Garage. My Garage is a feature to store cars that you have. We have over 100 million cars in My Garage that people fix up, and they're parts and accessories. So it's been a different answer for every category. In handbags, we did a bunch of changes. We authenticated it.

In parts and accessories, different answer, different answer for what we've done in refurbished. But in each category, we've built that game-changing, leading CSAT experience, which has led to the GMV growth.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. GMV, you've guided for FX neutral GMV growth in the back half of the year, or to turn positive, let's say, Q3, Q4. Just given macro remains difficult, maybe you can just talk about what you view as driving that momentum underneath the hood, and kind of what changes in the back half for you.

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

So, do you want to pick that up from what we're learning from an investment standpoint?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah. So there's really three areas that we're focused on. One is, focus categories is driving a good part of that growth, right? So you think about growing six points faster, it's becoming a larger percentage of the business, and we're expanding it. So the work that we're doing in focus categories is, I'd say, the first key part of what's driving that. The second is, geographic-specific work that we're doing. So we've been having this success with our playbook across verticals, if you will, and we decided last year to take that to specific segments and specific markets.

So, for example, we focused on C2C business in Germany, made a number of discrete changes, about 10 different changes to that experience, made a lot of adjustments, and said, "Let's see if we can do it on a category segment level." And we've had great success, Doug. If you look at it, that business had not been as healthy, and a declining part of our business. We turned that to positive growth, really got it driving. Even a year after lapping it, we're still seeing really healthy, positive C2C growth, because C2C is a really important part of the overall mixture for eBay. It brings really unique inventory on the marketplace, which is compelling. If we get you to sell as a C2C seller, you become 2-2.5 times more valuable as a buyer.

So there's a lot of elements. And the third thing that's really working there is that starting last year, the third pillar of our strategy had been magical innovations. But when generative AI capabilities came along, we decided to really double down on the opportunity to go after and change the horizontal experiences, because we knew they would help, not only focus categories, but also kind of our other core categories. So all the work that we've been doing to leverage AI, for example, in the selling process, is not just the elements that I talked about before, where it's, you know, figuring out all the attributes for you, it's writing the description for you, but it's also a thing like pictures. I've been around in this business for...

You know, I started at eBay 23 years ago, and, you know, quality pictures make a huge difference for shopping on the experience. And so we said, "Let's make it easier for sellers to put quality pictures out there." So now if I take, you know, a picture of shoes on this super ugly carpet here, that wouldn't look as good, it would wipe out the background for me, and I could put it right on a basketball court, and it would look really gorgeous, right? You know, you can imagine a pair of Air Jordan 1s, pretend it's on that background versus on a... And so the ability to make it just easier for sellers to list, to use AI. And it's not just for casual sellers on the platform, it's also for professional sellers.

I've had professional sellers tell me that. And I met one woman that we had on stage at one of my all-hands, and she said, "I would normally, you know, have," she has a bunch of listers, like 8 different people who just list product. She says, "The average lister could list maybe 100 or 150 items in a day, but with the new technologies you guys are building, I think they can do at least double that." And so it's not just unlocking that $4,000 in people's homes, it's even making how to, you know, our professional sellers stronger.

So those are really the three elements, Doug, that I would say are what gives us confidence about the growth that we're driving, give us confidence that this is really healthy, long-term, sustainable growth in our business, and, you know, that, that kind of FX, the current macro factors that are going on, we feel really good about the underlying momentum that we've created.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

... Is there any change in macro environment assumed in the back half to get there, or no?

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

No, assuming that the macro environment's remained stable, and so, it continues to be choppy. We'd expect that to persist through the rest of the year, and therefore, as you can imagine, in order to sort of turn positive in either Q3 or Q4, then we continue to take forward some of that share gain that we saw in 2023.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. Let's talk about ad revenue. Just over 2% of GMV in the first quarter. How are you tracking toward the 3% goal? What are some of the puts and takes in reaching that penetration level?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah, we feel great about our advertising business. We're right on the trajectory we thought when we put those goals out there. And it's a combination of things that are working. One is, you know, our existing products continue to perform well, but we continue to see more opportunity in them. So if I look at Promoted Listings Standard, which is our CPA-based product, we continue to have, you know, additional penetration opportunities. We continue to make improvements in the optimization of that product. We only have about 950 million listings that have adopted any product, so we still have, you know, less than half of the inventory available in terms of penetration, and feel good, and it's still the largest contributor to growth.

We've been doing a lot of work on Promoted Listings Advanced to make the process a lot easier. When we first launched that product, you know, you had to create the campaigns, you had to choose the keyword. It was a very time-consuming process to drive advertising. And over the past couple of quarters and years, we've made that product a whole lot easier. We've done things like suggested campaigns, where we'll come up with it for you. We've done things like smart targeting and broad match to make it easier to just develop those products on the way to kind of, just like I say, with selling on AI, make it so easy to adopt. It's almost, you know, seamless and part of a seller's individual business.

We continue to see a lot of runway there. Then what we're seeing is that our new, you know, some of our new products, are getting traction. We started in beta a couple of quarters ago, if you're following the advertising blogs, with a couple of sellers who've been trying out the idea of offsite advertising. Using a CPC-based product on external services like Google, where we're kind of driving the advertising on behalf of the seller, using their marketing dollars. What we've seen is really great traction on that product, and we talked about it on the earnings call, because for a seller, we make it extremely easy for them.

And so the whole idea is, you know, you just tell us the budget, and then you can leverage eBay's, you know, decades-plus experience in doing advertising and all the sophistication and the day parting and the optimization and the pricing and everything that we've done for a very long time. You don't have to worry about that. We're taking care of that on the seller's behalf. I was with a seller at a dinner, the other night, and he said: "You know what I loved? Is I was about to go hire a marketing manager to, you know, run this part of my business, and you guys launched this feature.

I can potentially save that cost now and not do that, and I'm just using kind of your Offsite Ads product." And so, you know, and it obviously is great for eBay 'cause it drives traffic back to, back to the platform, on behalf of the seller. So, that's a long way of saying we feel really good about the traction. We feel good that we're on the trajectory that we thought we would be on, and that, we're excited both about the additional opportunities that we have in our portfolio, but also about the new products that are coming online.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. We'll take a couple in the room, if there are any. Just feel free to raise your hand, and there's a mic going around. There's one up front. Let me just ask one, and then we'll go to you. Just on profitability, Steve, you've been investing, margins have compressed over the past few years, but you're guiding to 60-100 basis points of margin expansion this year. Maybe you can talk about the drivers of leverage, what's, you know, creating that change here, in 2024.

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

Yeah. So we have it been very, very, intentional in investing in the business, and we've done that over the last few years because we recognize the importance of doing that to drive profitable, sustainable, long-term GMV growth. And that's been a key ingredient to everything that we've been driving forward. As we enter 2024, we're obviously in a position now that we can leverage some of those investments that we've made. But to Jamie's point earlier, the onset of things like generative AI, has helped us start looking for additional efficiencies across our business. We launched a structural cost program about three years ago with regards to generating about $300 million in aggregate. We're ahead of that target. We've had benefits that we've seen, across our engineering space, across our GCX space.

We talked about the opportunities that we can drive with efficiencies across the rest of the organization. And Doug, that has continued to drive additional capacity for us to continue to invest in the business. And I think when you've got a financial architecture like eBay, we are in a position to create our own capacity. We can continue to invest in some of the products that Jamie's talked about and drive bottom-line benefits of that, and hence, it gives us the opportunity to drive 60-100 basis points of margin expansion in 2024. Where we land on that will be a function of where we decide to invest additionally in 2024, based on the ROI that we see from the investments. And then ultimately, it's a key ingredient towards the 10% earnings growth that we see at the midpoint of the 2024 guide.

Very pleased with where we are with our financial architecture for the year.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. Go for it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, thanks. Now, the turnaround story sounds very exciting in terms of removing the friction to list. I guess what are the signs that you're looking for in terms of understanding how long it takes for that thesis to take hold and actually, you know, start to impact the trajectory of growth that you're looking for?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah, we're obsessed with customer satisfaction, and NPS on the platform. If you think about what's made eBay successful, the word of mouth has been incredibly powerful for 20 years, right? And by definition, that's kind of NPS and CSAT. And so what we've seen in our focus categories, and I've talked about this on our various earnings calls, is like a 20-point movement in customer satisfaction. In Germany, we saw a 20-point movement in customer satisfaction. And what always happens then is GMV follows that customer CSAT, and it takes some time. But if you look at parts and accessories, for example, there have been multiple quarters now where we're growing mid-single digits in line with kind of the market rates of growth on a huge $10 billion business.

So I would say that it's the same thing for our new product features and innovations, which is how we change the CSAT, what's that gonna drive? How much inventory is it gonna lock? How many more C2C sellers will it bring to the platform? And it's very early days, right? The first version is out to everyone now. The second version will be coming. We're testing it now with a small percentage of customers. But early signals of the CSAT are like, wow! And when I talk to customers and I demo these features, they're like, "Oh my God, I have stuff in my closet that I've wanted to sell, if you just make it kind of super easy." So we're excited for the long-term potential of what that means for those products.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Other questions? Let me go to, just kind of sticking with margins, international shipping, EIS. It's weighed on gross margins, but overall margin neutral. Maybe you can talk about the longer-term benefits you're seeing, from this product, and then also about, seller adoption.

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

Jamie talked about scalable solutions at eBay. We talked about payments, we talked about advertising, and shipping is another ingredient there. I think what I love about eBay International Shipping, not only is it accretive from a financial perspective, but it's great from a strategic standpoint. As you rightly said, Doug, it puts a bit of pressure on gross margins as we went through 2023, in terms of the investment in that program, and getting to sort of neutral operating margins and starting to drive incremental dollars for eBay. We have opened up the aperture for our US sellers on an international basis. 132 million buyers across the globe, across 190 countries.

You're now in a position, if you're a U.S. seller, there's, it's as easy to ship from San Francisco to Munich as it is from San Francisco to New York. The sellers actually ship their products to Chicago, and eBay takes care of the rest. You think about that from a duty standpoint, from a paperwork standpoint, from the friction in terms of potential returns, et cetera, we have unlocked that. As a result of eBay International Shipping, we have literally opened up the aperture for 400 million listings in the U.S., that traditionally would have only gone domestically, on an international basis. So this is yet another pillar that is a benefit of our size and scale at eBay, where we have those buyers, we have those sellers, we have that inventory.

Not only can we monetize it and drive, you know, incremental dollars, but it also takes friction off the platform. To Jamie's point about CSAT, we see over a 20% increase in CSAT from the sellers that are using eBay International Shipping than where they were before. So it's a great addition to the portfolio of investments that we've got.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. Maybe we can talk about capital allocation a little bit, just how you're thinking about the strategy there. Strong balance sheet, very healthy and sustainable, free cash flow growth. Talked about returning 100% of free cash flow through 2024. So can you talk about just how you're tracking to that goal, and then how we should think about perhaps any changes post-close of the Adevinta stake?

Steve Priest
Former CFO, eBay

Yeah. We have a great track record over the last few years in terms of being good stewards of capital and getting the balance right. As a reminder, our first priority is to reinvest in the business. We see that as the best way to drive long-term sustainable GMV growth and drive value for our shareholders. The beauty of the eBay model is that we can do both. We can invest in the business, drive healthy margins, and drive healthy capital returns to our shareholders. Since the start of 2022, we've returned $6.2 billion of capital return, which is 134% of our free cash flow over the period, and so we're ahead of the targets that we laid out.

We obviously look at the sources and uses of cash, the strength of the balance sheet, including, you know, potential, other, sources coming into the company. And we've guided for 2024, just over $2 billion of returns. And so our philosophy hasn't changed. We continue to lean in, to capital returns, and I'm pleased that we're able to create that sort of value for shareholders. Specifically, attuned to the Adevinta deal, I'm pleased with the deal that has been struck. We expect it to close by the end of May. We did recently put out an additional 8-K with regards to some additional proceeds for another 25 million shares. So the gross proceeds we should expect will be about $2.4 billion.

This is different from the additional option that Permira and Blackstone have an option to take another 10% of the company. So, and if I stand back from this, the value that has been created has come from a 50% increase in the undisturbed share price that it was sitting at before the transaction was sealed. So really, really pleased with the work the team have done, really pleased with the value that is being created for shareholders. And again, our philosophy in terms of driving healthy capital returns and getting the balance right will remain intact.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

... Okay, and how are you thinking about M&A, you know, in just in particular as it relates to the focus categories?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah, I'd say our strategy hasn't changed, which is we look at build by partner for everything. So if you look at, you know, the case of, Adyen, we did a partnership there with warrants, which worked out great. In the case of, myFitment or Certilogo, we bought companies that we thought were really, congruent with the strategy of what we're doing and, have been really beneficial for us. We just launched a, one-click to resell with Certilogo as an example, of just, you know, being able to immediately get value out of those, which has been, fantastic. Other cases, we build. A lot of the AI technology that I talked about, we built that internally, because we had the skill sets to pull it off.

Maybe I'd look at the Goldin deal as a, I mean, the Goldin Collectors deal is a good example. You know, there's an acquisition with Goldin, and there's a partnership with Collectors and PSA to really create that seamless experience. So I think that strategy has worked really well for the company, and it'll be continue the framework that we use going forward.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. A lot of attention in this space just around China e-commerce. I know it's a frequent question that you get, but maybe you can just talk about kind of how you're thinking about the latest there, any impact on your business, how you think about that going forward.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Yeah, it really hasn't impacted our business to see some of the Chinese competitors come in for a couple reasons. One is eBay has the vast, vast majority of our traffic is organic, so we don't have as much as other people with paid traffic, so when another big paid player comes into the market, it just impacts us less. Secondarily, for those who have been following the story for a while, we moved away from kind of the low ASP overseas inventory a while ago to really focus on our core of where we're strong, and so you can look at what we're doing in focus categories. Our focus on non-new and season has been a differentiated strategy that's worked out well for us.

I'd say the one thing that's happened over in, Asia that is starting to come to the US and UK is live, shopping. And so we started rolling out live shopping, you know, many quarters ago in areas like collectors, in collectibles, people doing case breaks online, showing off the inventory that they have, et cetera. That's expanded into other areas like fashion and handbag. Before I walked in here, I got a push notification about one starting. Today is Recommerce Day, by the way, on eBay, with Alicia Silverstone talking about all the work this company does in recommerce.

But one of our sellers was doing a live commerce, who sells handbags and fashion, and she had 2,700 people on that live stream that I was just on, and it shows you, like, the appeal of giving sellers a new tool that they can use to market what they're doing on the platform. So we just launched our first one of those in the U.K. a couple of weeks ago. It's obviously more nascent in the U.S. and European markets, but pretty interesting to watch how the community's taking advantage of things like that.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, great. We're gonna wrap up quick, word association. So I don't know which one of you, but whoever's stepping up, so... Okay, focus categories.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Who's doing it? Each of us or just one of us?

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

No, just one of you. Colin, you can do it.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Focus categories. Awesome, 5%.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Macro.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Better in the U.S. than Europe.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Gen AI.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Pretty phenomenal and lucky to be the CEO. I guess, I'm supposed to say one word? Compelling.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Parts and accessories.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Uh, healthy.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Uh, advertising.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Very strong.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Margins.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Good.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Amazon.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Great at what they do.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Free cash flow.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

I love this business and being CEO of a business with such a strong financial... I should have let you take that one. But, we have a really healthy business that throws off a lot of cash, and it's gives us flexibility.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Back half GMV?

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

We're projecting positive growth in Q4.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Enthusiasts.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

They buy 70% of the inventory on the platform. We love them.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

All right, cool. Leave it there.

Jamie Iannone
CEO, eBay

Thank you, everyone.

Doug Anmuth
Managing Director and Internet Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you, Doug. Thank you, everyone.

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