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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

Jun 3, 2021

Speaker 1

Good day, and welcome to the 5 Below First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Christiana Pels, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Cole. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Five Below's Q1 fiscal 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. On today's call are Joel Anderson, President and Chief Executive Officer and Ken Bull, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. After management has made their formal remarks, we will open the call to questions. I need to remind you that certain comments made during this call may constitute Forward looking statements and are made pursuant to and within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act Those risks and uncertainties are described in the press release and FIFELO's SEC filings.

The forward looking statements made today are as of the date of this call, and we do not undertake any obligation to update our forward looking statements. If you do not have a copy of today's press release, you may obtain 1 by visiting the Investor Relations page of our website at 5below.com. I will now turn the call over to Joel.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Christiana, and thanks everyone for joining us for our Q1 earnings call. I will review the highlights of our Q1 performance before handing it over to Ken to discuss our financials and outlook in more detail. Then we will open the call up for questions. We've been fully reopened for 3 consecutive quarters and on March 20th, We lapped our initial temporary closings from the Q1 of 2020. I remain amazed at the resiliency and flexibility of our customers, Vendors and crew, we thank them all for continuing to support 5 Below in this dynamic operating environment.

Now turning to the Q1, We are extremely pleased to deliver Q1 results that exceeded the guidance we provided on our last earnings call in March. We achieved 1st quarter sales of $598,000,000 and earnings per share of $0.88 Versus 2019, which is more comparable than 2020. Sales grew 64% and earnings per share grew 91%. Sales growth continued to be driven by double digit ticket growth, while transactions remained slightly negative due to reduced store hours. We saw strength across the business in both existing and new stores, including all time records for new store performance that I will discuss shortly.

This strong performance also played out across channels with our average sales per store hitting record levels for the Q1 And our nascent but fast growing digital business posting double digit growth over last year's Q1 when e commerce grew 4 times. New stores have always been the fuel for the 5 Below Growth engine and in Q1, we opened 68 new stores, The most we have ever opened in a quarter. 6 of these stores across 5 states made the top 25 list of our all time spring grand openings. In fact, one of our stores in Lubbock, Texas set the all time grand opening record. Considering the reduced store operating hours and decreased grand opening marketing, these results were even more remarkable.

We successfully entered our 39 state, Utah, with 7 new stores in the Salt Lake City area, where the customer response was very strong. We also opened a store in the new market of Tucson, Arizona, Which is one of the stores that finished in the top 25 spring grand openings. We are on track to open between 170 180 new stores this year and end fiscal 2021 with approximately 1200 stores, Leaving us a long runway ahead to reach the 2,500 plus total store potential we believe exists in the United States. Before I speak to the specifics about the Q1, I want to acknowledge that once again both internal and external factors contributed to our strong performance. Internally, our teams executed well across the organization, delivering wild for our customers with amazing product At outstanding values, injecting a little fun into their lives when they arguably needed it most.

Externally, We also continue to benefit from the government stimulus as the 3rd round of stimulus began to hit bank accounts in mid March. We maintained an unrelenting focus on our strategic initiatives across product, experience and supply chain in the Q1. On product, from a merchandising perspective, we continue to work closely with our vendor partners around the world to capture and chase trends for our customers To offer them the products they've just got to have, we saw broad based strength across our worlds during the Q1, Especially in the sports, tech, style, candy and room worlds. Sports was strong in the games and toys category. Tech benefited from gaming products, including the booga items we launched last year.

Style was supported by apparel and accessories. Candy recovered nicely after losing most of the Easter season last year when our stores were closed. And finally, Room Continue to benefit from the trend of people working and schooling from home. Whether in the $1 to $5 product category or the newer Screen Value 5 Beyond section, the merchandising team is focused on distorting value across categories Using their expertise and experience combined with our growth and benefits of scale. For example, The room world has evolved incredibly over the last several years and now features regularly sized tables and other furniture to outfit an entire room on a budget.

The pet category within the room world has grown significantly as we expanded the assortment, Especially this past year in response to the pet adoption trend. The merchandising team continues to remain nimble and flexible in sourcing amazing TrendRight products by working with our vendor partners, listening to our customers and spotting trends on social media among other channels. The ability for 5 Below to participate in almost any trend through our 8 worlds and the flexibility within those worlds It's a key distinguishing feature of our model. Our second initiative is focused on the experience for our customers and crew. Experience includes both in store and digital and we constantly look for ways to enhance the experience through innovation.

In store, we have now successfully pivoted to our new prototype with 5 Beyond merchandise included in the Tech and Moon worlds In the back of the store. In addition to the 68 new stores, we remodeled about a dozen stores in Q1 into this prototype And now expect to finish 2021 with about 30% of our stores in the 5 Beyond format. Additionally, Associate Assisted Self Checkout or ACO as we call it is in most of these stores And we are adding over 250 ACO stores to be in over 60% of the chain by the end of this year. ACO allows our crew to move from behind the register to the floor to assist our customers with their shopping and checkout Which makes for a better and faster customer experience. 5 Beyond and ACO Are just two examples of how fast we are transforming the 5 Below concept to make it an even better experience.

For digital, which includes marketing as well as e commerce, we focused on increasing our brand awareness through more targeted marketing, Utilizing paid search and social platforms such as Instagram. Through digital channels, we are able to highlight our amazing value, Hot new products and inspire and delight our customers. Our approach is integrated with our store experience, Visually appealing, bright and engaging. We believe we are attracting both new customers to 5 Below who convert to regular customers as well as developing a deeper connection with current customers. Similarly, for e commerce, We are growing the number of new customers, while also increasing the percentage of repeat customers.

In addition, we are continuing our test with Instacart, which is currently operational in a third of our chain. With respect to our 3rd strategic initiative, supply chain, we made significant progress And preparing our next 2 distribution centers to open. We started inbound shipping to our Arizona DC Our ship center as we refer to our DCs a few weeks ago and also broke ground on our Indianapolis ship center in mid April. The Arizona Ship Center is expected to open later this summer and will include e commerce fulfillment, which will improve our service to customers in the Western States. These ship centers feature new warehouse management system, which combined with our demand forecasting platform will help optimize our inventory levels and allocations.

Within our supply chain, consistent with other retailers, we are contending with the ongoing global challenges and rising costs resulting from the pandemic. Our teams are doing a great job navigating these tight supply conditions, whether it be by negotiating our annual contracts early or finding new carriers to help ship our product. In summary, we are very pleased with the results And the progress we made in the Q1, we are excited to continue to play offense, execute with discipline and make progress in furthering our strategic initiatives across product, experience and supply chain. We continue to be nimble and pivot quickly to capture trends, wowing our customers with extreme value products. We believe our product lineup for summer fun offers an awesome selection of outdoor products, including new beach toys and towels, As well as sandals and summer apparel, we are sure to have something for everyone.

Looking ahead, We are excited to offer a more traditional 5 Below back to school assortment as well as our seasonal Wow! Wall with new 5 Beyond products. We have sourced truly amazing Wow! Product for our customers to enjoy and celebrate a return to normal. Our customers have told us they recognize the extreme value we offer through 5 Beyond and we will continue to listen and work back from them Find those got to have trend right products at extreme value and all packaged in a fun and amazing shopping experience.

With that, I'd like to turn it over to Ken for the financial discussion.

Speaker 4

Ken? Thanks, Joel, and good afternoon, everyone. I will begin my remarks with a review of our Q1 results And then provide guidance for the Q2 and commentary on the back half of the year. Because our stores were temporarily closed during the Q1 last year, making a year over year comparison less meaningful, I will also provide a review of our results versus the Q1 of 2019. We were very pleased with our record Q1 results.

Our sales for the Q1 of 2021 increased to $597,800,000 From $200,900,000 reported in the Q1 last year. Total sales this year grew 64% Compared to the Q1 of 2019 on an average store count growth rate of 37%. For the comparable subset of stores that were opened in both the Q1 of 2019 and the Q1 of 2021, Sales increased 23%, driven by record 1st quarter tickets on the heels of a strong demand environment aided by stimulus as well as the success we are seeing with our own merchandising initiatives. Transactions continue to be down, Given that we operated the stores with fewer hours versus our standard pre COVID operating hours. These ticket and transaction trends are similar What we have seen since reopening the chain last year.

We opened a record 67 net new stores across 28 states in the Q1 compared to 20 net new stores opened in the Q1 last year. We ended the quarter with 1087 stores, an increase of 167 stores or approximately 18% versus 9 20 stores at the end of the Q1 of 2020. As Joel mentioned, we entered our 39th state with 7 new store openings in the Salt Lake City area of Utah. We were very pleased with the performance of our new stores, especially given the more restrictive shopping environment and extremely limited grand opening market. Gross profit for the Q1 of 2021 was $100,900,000 versus $20,500,000 in the Q1 of 2020.

Versus the Q1 of 2019, gross profit increased by 67%, While gross margin increased approximately 70 basis points, driven primarily by occupancy leverage on the strong sales results, which more than offset higher inbound freight costs resulting from the tight supply chain conditions Joel mentioned. SG and A expenses were $137,200,000 for the Q1 of 2021 versus $92,700,000 in the Q1 of 2020. Compared to the Q1 of 2019, SG and A expenses increased 44%, but decreased approximately 320 basis points as a percent of sales, driven by lower store expenses on the reduced operating hours, reduced marketing expense and fixed cost leverage. As a result, we reported operating income of $63,700,000 for the Q1 of 2021 Versus the Q1 2019, operating income this year increased more than 2.5 times. Net income for the Q1 of 2021 was $49,600,000 versus a net loss of $50,600,000 last year And net income of $25,700,000 in 20.19.

Earnings per diluted share for the Q1 was $0.88 Compared to last year's loss per diluted share of $0.91 and it was a 91% increase versus earnings per diluted share of $4.6 in 2019. We had a share based accounting benefit of approximately $0.04 in the Q1 of this year compared to approximately $0.02 in the Q1 of $2,020.11 in the Q1 of 2019. We ended the Q1 with $392,000,000 in cash, cash equivalents and investments and no debt, including nothing outstanding on our $225,000,000 line of credit. Inventory at the end of the Q1 was $327,000,000 as compared to $368,000,000 at the end of the Q1 last year. Average inventory on a per store decreased approximately 25% versus the Q1 last year as last year's Q1 inventory was inflated by the temporary store closures.

Versus the Q1 of 2019, average inventory per store decreased approximately 12%. Our current inventory levels are in a good position to support the 2nd quarter. And as we look to the second half of the year, We are working to accelerate receipts and add carrier capacity as we navigate a Titan supply chain environment. Now looking ahead, we are providing formal guidance for the Q2 of 2021, but not the full year Due to the continued uncertainty related to both the ongoing impact of COVID-nineteen and potential future shifts in consumer spending. However, I will offer directional commentary on how we are viewing the full year.

For both the quarter and the full year, I will compare to fiscal 2019 due to the disruption in store closures caused by COVID-nineteen last year. We are very pleased with the start to the Q2. We expect 2nd quarter sales to be in a range of $640,000,000 to 660,000,000 The midpoint of this range represents an increase of 56% versus sales for the Q2 of 2019 On an average store count growth rate of 36%, given we plan to open approximately 30 stores in the 2nd quarter. We expect significant operating margin leverage versus the Q2 of 2019, driven primarily by SG and A expenses, including a shift in marketing spend into the second half of the year. Our effective tax rate for the 2nd quarter is planned at approximately 25 percent, which excludes the impact of share based accounting or any share repurchases.

Our practice is to update the Tax rate outlook quarterly with actual results when we report earnings. Net income for the Q2 of 2021 is expected to be in the range of $56,900,000 to $63,700,000 With diluted EPS expected to be in the range of $1.01 to 1 $0.13 This represents a growth rate at the midpoint of more than double the net income and EPS reported for the Q2 of 2019. We are on track to deliver a much stronger first half of fiscal twenty twenty one than we had envisioned when we spoke with you back in March. As I mentioned earlier,

Speaker 5

due to

Speaker 4

the continued uncertainty related to both the ongoing impact of COVID-nineteen and potential future shifts in consumer spending, We are not able to provide full year guidance at this time. Back in March, I discussed a scenario for the year where a high teens compound annual sales growth rate from 2019 to 2021 Would result in operating margins in line with 2019. Given our Q1 results and guidance for the 2nd quarter, A higher 2 year sales CAGR in the low 20s range would result in operating leverage of approximately 30 basis points With regards to non operating results, our minority interest in NerdStreet Gamers is still expected to result in a net other expense of approximately $0.06 In addition, we are currently planning an effective tax rate for the back half of twenty twenty one of approximately 25%. For the year, we expect to open 170 to 180 new stores with approximately 100 new stores opening in the first half of the year, And we expect to complete approximately 30 remodels. We are planning to spend approximately $315,000,000 in gross capital expenditures excluding the impact of tenant allowances.

This reflects opening a new ship center in Arizona And beginning construction on a new ship center outside Indianapolis, opening new stores and executing remodels and investing in systems and infrastructure. In conclusion, we had a great Q1 and are off to a strong start for the Q2. Agility, flexibility and innovation, along with extremely disciplined cost and capital management And the ongoing growth and scale in the business are all inherent to our model and how we have always operated. And these qualities will continue to serve us well as we navigate a dynamic operating environment. Now, I'll turn it over to Joel For a brief summary before we begin Q and A.

Joel?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Ken. In summary, we are very pleased that the momentum from a strong finish 2020 continues and I'm proud of how our teams are executing across the company. With the inherent flexibility of our 8 worlds, Unique merchandising approach and focus on innovation across product experience and supply chain, we believe we remain In a position of strength to continue growing 5 Below and driving sustainable long term value With that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator?

Speaker 1

We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question today will come from Matthew Boss with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks and congrats on another Great print

Speaker 3

guys. Hey, thanks Matt.

Speaker 6

So maybe a 2 part question. Joel, on top Upline growth relative to 2019, maybe how would you best rank the company specific drivers that you think are contributing to the outperformance? And then maybe for Ken, as we think about success with 5 Beyond and the new customer acquisition that you're clearly seeing, I guess any way to speak to productivity and brand awareness that you're seeing in new doors today? And I know you guys have talked about moving to offense. What could In terms of the ability maybe to even accelerate and take market share coming out of the pandemic?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Matt. Look, on top line, it's hard to distinguish between just External and internal, obviously, the stimulus had was an external one. I think you can tell, though, by our guide in the second quarter that It wasn't just external factors and you see the momentum continuing Both in April and then now well into the Q2, clearly, adding things like 5 Beyond makes a difference. The 8 worlds gives us a lot of flexibility to chase trends in many different categories.

I think what you heard me call out 5 different worlds that really drove, and I think it all adds up to Like we've seen in any times of trends or in this case, COVID, we picked up a lot of new customers. And those new customers try out Five Below. They like what they see and then they become regular customers With us and that keeps the momentum going. So we feel really good about the internal drivers to our growth. Ken, you want to?

Speaker 4

Yes. And then, Matt, on 5 Beyond, I think Joel had already mentioned a little bit of it there. I mean, we're really pleased with what we're seeing and the reactions from the customer. Another example for us to present extreme value to the customer, and we continue to roll that out in our stores. We're going to be at Probably about 30% of the chain to have that prototype in at the end of this year.

So again, it gives us a chance there to Continue to offer that value to the customers and they continue to respond really well for that. So that is something we see as Great opportunity for us. And again, as you've heard from us before, just another area of innovation for us where we continue to just up the game

Speaker 3

From an experience standpoint. Matt, what I'm probably most proud of the team is like when we get a new idea, We move fast. And I called out in my prepared remarks, both ACO and 5 Beyond, Those were basically nonexistent a couple of years ago and ACO is now in 60% of the chain and 5 Beyond's in 30% of the chain. So Really changing the experience to make it even better.

Speaker 4

And then Matt, I think you also asked about new customer acquisition. And I think we've talked about that before. We were really happy with what we saw in the 4th quarter, very healthy results there. And We saw that again in this Q1. So it's good to continue to see those new customers coming on board.

Thanks, Matt.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Matt.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from John Heinbockel with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

So two questions. One, how do you guys think about gauging demand, right, for the holiday season With a lot of moving parts and in light of the right the supply chain environment flowing product in. So that's number 1. And then 2, What are the things that COVID might have created that is structural? You think about operating hours, marketing spend, Is any of that structural that would improve, right, the profitability of the business on an ongoing basis?

Speaker 3

Yes. John, great questions. I think as it relates to demand for holiday, It's part of the reason we're not giving formal guidance. I think as you look ahead, There's a lot of unknowns, but I would say they're equally weighted as headwinds and tailwinds. And so I think with the momentum we've got right now and as Ken gave you the revised outlook on scenario for the year, you can see we feel pretty good about the setup going into the back half of the year.

You asked specifically about supply chain. I think everybody is talking about it. We have 2 advantages. 1, We're pretty locked up with contracts throughout the year, and that really helps on the cost side to mitigate a bunch of that. On the other hand, our concept being a treasure hunt concept, it allows for a lot of substitution.

Customers don't come in necessarily for a specific item. They come in to solve a specific problem, a birthday, A fun little gift or something like that. And so that really helps us as we might face temporary out of stocks or something being behind. But I'll tell you, the supply chain team has done a great job of setting ourselves up. We're bringing product in early for holiday.

So I think we're in a good space. As for structural coming out of COVID, some of the structural changes, hey, we tightened our belt and As we always say, hold the penny hostage. And I think we pivoted our marketing significantly During COVID, we're now 100% off of paper and 100% focused on digital. So that was a big piece. Our marketing this year is probably going to come in around 2%, Which is lower than it's been in the past.

And I think that efficiencies we gain during COVID is a really good example. Hours is another one. We've been able to tighten the hours up, which in a rising wage environment, that's nice, has really allowed us Flow some of that through as you see pretty good operating margins coming out of Q1 and a guide for Q2. Ken, anything to add?

Speaker 4

Yes. Just another structural one I'll throw in there too is the because we all learned how to operate differently during the last year, John. Look at the buyers and what they've been able to do. And certainly look at the response to the merchandise and they did it really with a tremendous amount of less travel, right, than we've ever done. And I'm sure they're anxious to get out there and get back with the vendors, but we still saw that we could be successful in another environment there.

So yes, there are a good number of kind And our

Speaker 3

next question will come from Karen Short with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Karen Short with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, thanks very much. Wondering if you could just talk a little bit about maybe some pressures that people are concerned about. So I know you You were in a good position on freight, but wondering if you could give a little color on where you're at in terms of freight on contract versus spot? And then how to think about actually 2022 with respect to freight headwinds or maybe even tailwinds? And then also if you could just give a little color on how you're thinking about inflationary pressures on the wage front, but also in products in general?

Speaker 3

Yes. Hey, look, on the first question about specifically contract versus spot, we're 90% plus on contract. Spot would only come into play as sales go up and we're exceeding our number of containers. But The team did a great job. We locked up our contract rates back in actually in 2020.

And so that really helps mitigate a pretty tough environment for the spot rate right now. It's a little early, Karen, to speculate on 'twenty two. I would be Price of spot rates stay up that high. The fact that we are such a growth retailer Really helps as we negotiate the next year because no carrier wants to lose somebody that's Growing the number of containers as much as we are. So that's really helpful, but it's too early to speculate exactly on the numbers.

But I think We'll be fine there. I'm not too worried about it. As far as inflation goes, look, I think it's an advantage for a value retailer like us. 1, we've seen in every other recession or some sort of tough environment, Value becomes even more important. And so, we will win with value.

And then I think the difference this time is we now have 5 Beyond. If you'd asked me that question 2 years ago, Karen, It would be tough. We'd be hitting some pricing ceilings, but we have pivoted nicely with 10 below, which is really a defensive strategy Into an offensive strategy of 5 Beyond. And the last place we go is raising prices, and I think some retailers, it's 1st place they go. And so as we can create more value, we're going to win, but we do have now the ability to go above the $5 price point, which It's really a nice way to overcome the pressures of inflation.

Okay.

Speaker 8

And just on

Speaker 2

the wage front?

Speaker 3

Specifically, you're saying what are we seeing with wages?

Speaker 8

Well, I mean, obviously, that's a number what there's Many concerns that investors have, but wage rates rising in terms of where you may be at on your wage scale?

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, we got a couple of things going for us there. First of all, we stay competitive in every market and our average wage is now around 13. And we also hire a lot of 16 and 17 year olds. And it's their first job.

They're willing to work for a little bit less and it's a fun environment. And another nice thing about our stores is, Especially with ACO, it doesn't it's a smaller store. It doesn't take a lot of associates to run a 5 Below store. So While we're certainly seeing the wage increases and I think they'll continue to creep with the nice increases in the top line, That's really helped mitigate it. But bottom line, we're not having any problems hiring.

We are raising in spot markets where We need to, but overall, we've the teams have done a really nice job of hiring and it hasn't raised risen to any Materiality for us.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks. Congrats on a great quarter.

Speaker 3

Hey, thanks Karen. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Simon Goodman with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, everyone. My question is also relative to 2019. So the implied guide for Q2 is still way above on a volume basis. It's still consistent or somewhat consistent with the Q1 run rate and compounded on a 2 year basis way above Where this business has grown on a single year basis, if that makes sense. So my question is, does it kind of makes the case for a Higher normalized growth rate going forward.

And I know you're not going to guide to any of that now given the environment we're in. But Is there a case to be made? And what would have to happen for that to occur? And where would that share come? And then my second question, unrelated, a little tongue in cheek.

Your first half is getting raised effectively by 30%, 35%. Is there any reason why the whole year can't be bettered by that entire amount? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Simon, trying to pick up that second part, You're asking why couldn't the second half be growth rate be as high as the first half growth rate? Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 5

I was looking at the consensus, which is in the low 4s, And you're effectively revising the first half by 30%. And can we think about it proportion? I know you're not guiding for the full year, but thinking about the second half as well proportionate.

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, certainly, the second half, I mean, the difference between the first half, you're just up against tougher compares. But Clearly, you can tell by Ken's comments that we have great momentum going into the second half that we Feel really good about. And your first question is a tough one too. You're absolutely right.

We're not going to guide A higher normalized growth rate and especially at this point when there's a lot of unknowns in front of us. But I think what's more important that everybody takes away is we're back to playing offense and we're back to opening stores. The 'twenty one program is almost done. You can see how broad based the momentum is across the merchandising assortments. We're clearly starting to pick up market share.

I mean, we've really become the only national kids retailer that's out there. And as long as we can continue to deliver extreme value, we're going to keep growing 5 Beyond. And 5 Beyond is one that really Helps us expand our reach. It moves us into the main gift destination, and it's just another way to deliver extreme value. Ken, anything to

Speaker 4

Yes. No, I think you mentioned it, Joel. And Simon, again, I mean, you can hear and just knowing where we've come from, we feel really good about Where we finished last year, the Q1 and then where we are today in terms of sales and customers And brand and market share. Obviously, as I mentioned in my comments, there's just some uncertainty out there from a macro perspective That kind of prohibits us from providing explicit guidance. And then we do have some tough compares given The business that we had in Q3 and Q4 last year.

That's really what we're looking at in terms of not providing guidance, but you can hear it From Joel and myself that really confident in terms of where the business has been and where it's going.

Speaker 3

Yes. Really happy with the momentum we've got going. Yes. Thanks, Simon.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Michael Lasser with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Good afternoon. Thanks a lot for taking my question. So you didn't give guidance, but you gave the parameters on how to think about The full year of low 20s growth rate this year and last year, Which would get you to about 30 basis points of operating margin expansion versus 2019 getting you to a 12.1% Operating margin, why wouldn't it be higher than that? You've seen great leverage in the first part of the year. Why wouldn't the leverage be Even greater than that, and conceptually, is 12.1% a level that you can grow off

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, Michael, it's a great question, right? And I think given the uncertainties that we just haven't have answers to yet, It's harder for us to put a number higher than that on it without giving explicit guidance. We're obviously trying to figure out the child tax care Credits that are coming, understanding supply chain. But I think any way you slice it, you don't hear Ken and I Looking at the second half of the year being a down half of the year, I think there's upside there that We've set ourselves up, and we just got to go keep continuing the momentum and the broad based strength of our merchandising categories sets us up nicely.

And we just need a little bit more time to kind of understand the macro environments.

Speaker 4

Yes. And Michael, I think the takeaway From that scenario that we provided was that we see the road to a meaningful improvement in operating margins 2019, I think that's the story there. I know you asked about go forwards and obviously we're not in a position to talk about that now. But the one thing we can reference back to is what we've said historically where we talk about comps. And I think we've always said when we're in that 3% comp range, that gives us the ability to leverage.

And I think that still holds true When we're in a non investment period. So I mean, you can kind of take that and use that go forward from this point.

Speaker 9

And just can I clarify what, Joy, you said? You had previously indicated it would be difficult to comp the Comp in the back half of the year, given what you experienced last year, are you now more confident that you'll be able to comp the comp Recognizing there is a host of uncertainties out there, but based on the momentum in the business, are you more confident now?

Speaker 3

We're certainly as we obviously get closer and closer to that half, we get more confident I'm way more confident than I was a Quarter ago and more than it was a year ago. And look, we've just got a lot more tools of offense to use Then we had 2 years ago. And I think you were asking about bottom line earlier. I mean, there's Obviously, Karen asked about inflation, wage inflation, supply chain. And our job is to go mitigate those things like we always have.

And then what's in our control is chasing trends. And Michael's team has always done a great job in that. And then I wish I had the crystal ball Potential shift in consumer spending, I don't have that, right? So I think the prudent thing for us to do is control what we can control. And that's just about delivering an amazing experience with great product at incredible value.

But when you start looking at it, You and I could sit here on a piece of paper and we could put headwinds and tailwinds down And they're going to weigh measure out equally one way or the other. So there's a good sense of headwinds and there's a good sense of tailwinds. They balance each other out and then our job is to go execute. But yes, clearly, Matt, I mean, Michael, we you can tell from us, we're feeling Much more confident about the year than where we were.

Speaker 9

Makes sense. Thank you so much and good luck.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Chuck Grom with Gordon Haskett. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hey, guys. Good quarter. I'm curious if you've updated any of your brand awareness metrics that you've done in the past and I guess where we are in some of your Most mature markets versus some of your more nascent ones. And I guess the reason why I'm asking is that your sales per store is moving up nicely. You're obviously getting more customers through the door.

But I'm curious kind of where some of the more mature markets are resting on that sales per store front versus some of the newer markets?

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, I think the awareness metric I study the most, Chuck, I'm probably most excited about is I know you're asking about the more mature, but it's really the ones that are less mature. And our 0 to 2 year stores, you don't have to go back too many years ago when that awareness stood in the Let's call it the high teens. And the most recent survey we've done is it's close to 40% now. And Utah is a great example.

I mean, we went into Utah this Q1 and those stores have opened rather nicely, Record openings, right? Lubbock, Texas, the biggest opening we've ever had and there's no reason that we would have Done that without higher awareness. And by the way, we've done it without any marketing in our new stores this year, which was due to COVID. So We've been really studying the less mature stores more than the more mature stores because That's the part of the needle we needed to move faster to and you're seeing it in new store productivities, which are hard that you can't measure right now, but That's helped nicely in really improving the productivity in the model. Right.

Speaker 10

But if I could just follow-up, is there a way to contextualize what your best Stores are comping across the country, is it $3,000,000 $4,000,000 per store?

Speaker 3

We certainly have stores in that range, Chuck. And some of that is Contextual to where they're located, and it's not always because they're in Philadelphia, it's They're in an urban environment with more density. And I think the two factors in the higher volume stores are The density of the store and then the length of time we've been in a market, but at the same time, some of those markets, We told you guys, we run about 100 basis points cannibalization now. And so we haven't been afraid It will impact those stores either, but yes, it's about the right range.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thanks very much. Congrats.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Chuck. Thanks, Chuck.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Scot Ciccarelli with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, guys. It's got Ciccarelli. So I have a bigger picture question. You guys mentioned some of the merchandise assortments For room, you mentioned full size tables, an expanded pet offering. I know there are only 2 examples.

I guess I'm wondering if that starts to move you away From a little bit away from your traditional focus on teens and preteens because you're finding higher value items outside of that historical theme.

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, I think it's a fair question to ask, but the answer is no. I mean, I think There's a reason we call it room and not home. We really try to still focus on a teen's room, Kids room, certainly, I mean, John, Heimach was asking earlier about structural changes. I mean, kids being in Elmore, They want more in their room.

And pet I mean pet is a family thing. And the pet adoption trend last It was huge. And so I think both of those still stay true to it. Could you find examples where you're like how does that tie into a teen? Probably yes.

But I don't think it's our intent The customer every survey we've done on 5 Beyond has been very positive, and it's Because we're continuing to deliver that extreme value. And so look, we stay focused on families, teen, parent, but not trying to move away from that, Scott, but great question.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. You bet, Scott.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Paul Lejuez with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hi, guys. This is Kelly on Paul, thanks for taking our question. I was just hoping we could dig into the gross margin a little bit more in the Q1. How did product margins do relative to F Was mix still a negative impact for you? And then on the same note, just could you quantify how much the freight Negatively impacted gross margins in the 2nd quarter, again relative to 2019 and how we should think about that in 2Q in the back half of the year?

Speaker 4

Thanks. Sure. Thanks, Kelly. Your first question, the first part around Q1 and the gross margins there. And as you saw, we came in about 70 basis points favorable, if you look at it versus 2019.

Again, the key driver there was occupancy leverage, and that was actually a little bit More than double of the actual gross margin leverage and then that was offset by freight costs for the most part that we saw And gross margin. And then as you kind of shift into Q2, it's similar type of dynamics That although the overwhelming majority of the leverage that we're expecting operating margin We're expecting in Q2 is going to be driven by SG and A. There are going to be similar dynamics in the gross margin for Q2 where We expect to see occupancy leverage on the sales outperformance, but again, offset for the most part by Higher incremental freight costs.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think, look, some people are calling out 100 of basis points for us. It's in the 10s. And that's the advantage of growing as fast as we are. The other side of it is, we've been making investment for a number of years On our distribution network, and we're starting to get leverage there.

And so that's a good guy that goes the other direction. And that's why When they net it all together, you're still seeing leverage come out of gross margin despite this rising Environment around supply chain. And then as I answered somebody else's question earlier, we contractually locked up a large percentage of Our freight, so that's why it's tens of basis points, not 100 for us, and we don't expect it to Deteriorate any further than that. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from David Bellinger with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hey, Joel. Good quarter. I appreciate you going into detail about the different worlds and the higher number of those you called out for Q1. But on the categories that Underperformed over the past year or so such as party or candy. Do you see those come back to call it normalized levels or do they still have room to go?

And also, can you just give us some data on the space allocated to categories like apparel or even something like pool? Are those flexing and getting more attention in store than just Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, honestly, I called out the top performing worlds, but If I was to take you through all 8, there's only one world that is still underperforming. And when I tell you what it is, you're not going to be too surprised, it's Party. And you can imagine where COVID has been and the lack of parties and all that. So I think that's one world that certainly has a lot of upside as America is reopening here.

Candy was I mean, it was up against nothing last year with Easter being closed. So that was obviously really coming around nicely. But Other than party, we're really pleased and Michael's team does a good job. If you go in our stores today, our party section has been contracted pretty tight And that's to give room for some of these other departments that have really taken off. And when that starts to come back, we'll flex it back up.

But like I said, this is pretty broad based growth for all our worlds.

Speaker 4

Yes. And David, too, that your question about flexing the store, I think that's one of the advantages of the model, the 8 worlds in a 9,000 square foot store, That we can flex it based on the customer's preferences and response. And it actually it gives us an advantage From an assortment standpoint to put that product in front of the customer and really show it out there, whether it's a trend or whether it's just certain departments that we want to highlight. Thanks, Dan.

Speaker 1

And our next question will come from Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Thanks. I'll add my congratulations. I want to come back to the performance in Q1 Versus 2019 levels. So, the 23% growth versus 2019, what's the composition of that ticket Guidance suggests that basically you're comping similar levels versus 2019, kind of that 20% plus versus 2019 despite the fact we don't have any stimulus You could argue it's maybe even better than in Q1.

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, I'll take the second half of that and then Ken, you want to comment. Jeremy, I'll tell you, I give a lot of credit to the merchants. And we've Got it. Several trends out there right now.

You can tell just in the last question, I was going back and forth, David, They've done a great job of really bringing it in. We've been flexing the store. That treasure hunt makes for a great environment for Customers can pick up a variety of different things and it's a good economy out there right now. So all those combined is I mean, I'm glad you picked up on it, Jeremy, but that's why you're not seeing the deceleration coming into the second quarter here. There's a lot of momentum.

And then you want to just pick up

Speaker 4

The first part, Jeremy, you called out the growth rate that we spoke to, which was that comparable set of stores that were open in both The Q1 of 2019 and this past Q1, the 23% growth rate, if you dig into that, We saw transactions down single digits and then the obviously, the opposite of that was the tickets, Right, to get you to a 23%. So a very healthy ticket response from the customer. And similar to what we saw back In the second half of last year when we came out through the and opened up the stores post pandemic.

Speaker 3

Tickets really been driving them. Yes. Thanks, Jeremy.

Speaker 5

Congrats. Great job.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 9

And our

Speaker 1

next question will come from Anthony Chukumba with Loop Capital. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Congrats again on a really strong quarter and start to the year. I guess my question, I remember the days of talking about Different fads, whether it was fidget spinners or Rainbow Loom or there are there's a Rainbow Loom, I don't remember the name anymore, it doesn't really matter. I guess, my question is, which makes your performance all the more remarkable because we haven't had a fad, at least that I can remember, in quite some time. I guess, Two questions related. One, is there anything that you guys are seeing right now from either kind of a fad or a trend perspective that's worth Calling out.

And then second, somewhat related, I know you had some strength with mass recently given the pandemic. And I guess, are you seeing that kind of reverse, given that we're seeing to be getting to the other side of it? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. Look, all the PPE stuff is certainly reversed and slowing Quite a bit. We're in a good position inventory wise, no inventory liabilities. In terms of specific trends, I think it's pretty broad based right now. I called out Pet earlier as one example.

Squishmiles is another that's been out there for a while that I would call out. But I think the bigger one is just The gaming is another one I called out. And you put them all together and it really leads to Driving a lot

Speaker 5

of footsteps,

Speaker 3

and we're chasing them all. And the merchants are following up and pivoting as new things come up.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'm sorry, guys. We just realized that it's almost 5:30. So we're going to go right into our conclusion, and then we'll pick up in a little bit here.

Speaker 3

Thank you and appreciate everybody joining us today on the call. As you You can tell a lot of great questions and hopefully Ken and I answered all those and we look forward to seeing in our stores and We'll speak to you again at the end of the summer. And thanks all. Have a great evening.

Speaker 1

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