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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 4, 2022

Vivek Bhakuni
Senior Director of Investor Relations and Business Development, Fox Factory

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Fox Factory Holding Corporation's second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. This is your host, Vivek Bhakuni, Senior Director, Investor Relations and Business Development. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. I am joined today by Mike Dennison, our Chief Executive Officer, and Scott Humphrey, our Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. First, Mike will provide business updates, then Scott will review the quarter and full-year financial results and then the outlook, followed by closing remarks from Mike. We will then open the call up for your questions. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release, which went out today at approximately 4:05 P.M. Eastern Time.

If you have not had a chance to review the release, it's available on investor relations portion of our website at investor.ridefox.com. Please note that throughout this call we will refer to Fox Factory as Fox or the company. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. Such statements involve a number of known and unknown uncertainties, many of which are outside the company's control and can cause future results, performance or achievements to differ significantly from the results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Important factors and risks that could cause or contribute to such differences are detailed in the company's latest Form 10-Q and in the annual report on Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking or other statements herein, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, where appropriate, in today's prepared remarks and within our earnings release, we will refer to non-GAAP financial measures to evaluate our business as we believe these are useful metrics that better reflect the performance of our business on an ongoing basis. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in today's press release, which has also been posted on our website. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Mike Dennison.

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Thank you, V, and good afternoon. We appreciate everyone taking the time to join us for today's call. I am proud to report that we delivered yet another record quarter with the highest revenue in our company's history. These results were driven by record-breaking performance in both our Specialty Sports and Powered Vehicles Group. We also delivered the all-time highest earnings per share by successfully navigating the unpredictable and turbulent macroeconomic and operational environment. Entering 2022, we knew our team had a daunting task ahead with the challenge to deliver continued growth through optimization at our Gainesville facility in a highly volatile macroeconomic environment. I'm happy to report continued progress in our Gainesville facility's output, which produced a record number of units in Q2.

Thanks to the dedication and the resilience of the entire Fox team, we crossed the $400 million mark in quarterly revenue, $50 million mark for net income, and the $80 million mark in adjusted EBITDA for the first time in our company's history. Taking a deeper look at the numbers, our second quarter sales were $406.7 million, an increase of 23.9% compared to the second quarter of last year. This outstanding growth is driven by both our SSG and PVG product categories, which grew 28% and 21% respectively versus the same prior year period. Our commendable quarter-over-quarter beat exemplifies our belief that Fox's expanded portfolio of high-performance products continue to deliver on quality engineering and service, which consistently resonates with our end consumers.

We reported earnings per diluted share of $1.26, an increase of 20% from the same period last year. On a non-GAAP adjusted basis, we reported earnings per diluted share of $1.38, increasing 15% from the same period last year. Starting with Specialty Sports Group, Q2 2022 was our ninth consecutive record revenue quarter. We delivered approximately $178 million in sales, a 28.1% revenue growth on a quarter-over-quarter basis. We continued to optimize our capacity, our productivity and workforce in Taiwan as well as combat the increased prevalence of COVID on the island and within our factories. With regards to channel inventory, high-end non-bike levels are still below the preferred levels and the rising popularity of e-bikes is continuing to fuel demand while supply chains are improving.

We are, however, seeing the signs of a return to normal and consequently we expect SSG to return to more typical growth rates beginning Q3 and return of seasonality in Q4. Shifting to the Powered Vehicles Group, the second quarter of 2022 marked another record quarter with revenue of $229 million, which represents a 20.9% increase as compared to the same period last year. This is our second consecutive quarter with over $200 million in revenue, led by strong performance in our upfitting product lines and increased efficiency and output in our Gainesville facility. For the second half of the year, we anticipate the PVG group will continue to grow at the current rates given the significant backlogs in our auto OE and powersports business, along with strong demand in our upfitting product lines.

However, we anticipate an increase in OE revenue contribution given the recent OEM launches versus the first half of the year. This translates to a tailwind for our top line, but a headwind for margins. We plan to offset those margin headwinds through further productivity gains in Gainesville. We recognize that we are just beginning our factory optimization journey, and we will continue to make progress over the course of the next several quarters, delivering the 250-350 basis point margin improvement as we have discussed in prior calls. As the world is slowly migrating towards electric vehicles, I'm excited to share some highlights from our electric vehicle racing program with the Extreme E Circuit. As you may recall, Fox was named the official shock provider for the Extreme E series back in early Q2.

We just finished our first race in Sardinia, Italy, and team feedback indicated that drivers and teams were thrilled with the Fox upgraded suspension package. We learned from drivers that the cars finally worked as they should. The handling was much more predictable and safer, and drivers were much more relaxed and less shaken up. This improvement in performance allowed the drivers to push the cars much harder and showcase their driving skills versus just trying to ensure the vehicle survived the course. We are pleased to see Fox right at the forefront of this evolution in off-road racing. From a general economic standpoint, we continue to deal with inflation, labor, and supply chain disruptions, and we believe this difficult environment will likely persist well into 2023.

What exacerbates our supply chain issues and lead times in general are the highly engineered and precision machine components we require that utilize higher grades aluminum and steel. Consequently, we will continue to leverage dynamic pricing to combat inflationary pressures. Demand remains healthy across most of our diversified portfolio, and we believe that will remain for the balance of the year. We will continue to strengthen our core competencies and be relentless in extending our competitive differentiation. We also believe that the continued optimization of our Gainesville plant will drive some marginal improvement, as I discussed earlier. The dynamic operating environment has only become more complex as the year has progressed, and still this team has delivered a 7.6% revenue growth on a sequential basis. Hence, I want to thank each and every member of our Fox family for their continued elevated performance.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Humphrey
CFO and Treasurer, Fox Factory

Thanks, Mike. Good afternoon, everyone. I'll begin by going over our second quarter financial results and then review our guidance. Sales in the second quarter of 2022 were $406.7 million, an increase of 23.9% versus sales of $328.2 million in the second quarter of 2021. Our Specialty Sports Group, SSG, delivered a 28.1% increase in sales compared to the second quarter of 2021, primarily due to increased demand in our OEM channels. Moving to our Powered Vehicles Group, PVG delivered a 20.9% increase in sales in the second quarter compared to the same quarter last year, primarily due to strong performance in our upfitting product lines. On a year-to-date basis, sales were $784.7 million, an increase of 28.7%.

This jump in sales is driven by increased demand, primarily in the SSG OEM channel and strong performance from our upfitting product lines in PVG. Fox Factory's gross margin was 35.1% in the second quarter of 2022, a 120 basis point increase from 33.9% in the same period of the prior year. For the second quarter of 2022, non-GAAP adjusted gross margin increased by 120 basis points to 35.3% versus Q2 of 2021. The increase in gross margin and non-GAAP adjusted gross margin were primarily driven by favorable product mix compared to Q2 of 2021, led by higher volume sales in our Specialty Sports Group and strong performance in our upfitting product lines. Our results were also positively impacted by increased factory efficiencies.

The increases in gross margin and non-GAAP adjusted gross margin were offset by higher inflationary pressures on all fronts, including labor costs, input costs, and freight costs. Total operating expenses were $72.5 million or 17.8% of sales in the second quarter of 2022, compared to $58.4 million or 17.8% of sales in the second quarter of last year. The increase in operating expenses in Q2 2022 was primarily due to higher employee-related costs, higher commission costs, higher facility-related costs, and the impact of higher incentive compensation accruals. Looking at non-GAAP operating expenses as a percentage of sales, our non-GAAP operating expenses increased by 60 basis points to 16.3% in the second quarter of 2022, compared to 15.7% in the same period in the prior year.

Focusing on operating expenses in more detail, sales and marketing expenses increased approximately $6.4 million in the second quarter of 2022 compared to the second quarter of 2021, primarily due to higher commissions of $2.4 million. Research and development costs increased approximately $3 million in the second quarter of 2022 compared to the second quarter of 2021, primarily due to personnel investments to support future growth and product innovation. General and administrative expenses increased by approximately $4.1 million in the second quarter of 2022 compared to the second quarter of 2021 due to higher employee-related costs of $2.9 million as well as higher insurance and facility-related costs of $2.5 million. For the second quarter of 2022, our effective tax rate was 18.9%.

As anticipated, the rate was higher than our estimated full year 2022 range of 11%-15%. The higher rate was primarily due to the impact of recently finalized U.S. tax regulations, which limit the amount of newly generated foreign taxes that are creditable against U.S. income taxes, and resulted in an increase in foreign withholding tax, as well as decreased benefits from lower stock-based compensation. These increases were partially offset by a lower tax rate on U.S. foreign-derived earnings. On a GAAP basis, net income attributable to Fox in the second quarter of 2022 was $53.5 million or $1.26 per diluted share, compared to $44.3 million or $1.05 per diluted share in the same period in the prior year.

On a year-to-date basis, net income attributable to Fox was $101.5 million or $2.40 per diluted share, compared to $82.3 million or $1.94 per diluted share in the prior year period. Non-GAAP adjusted net income was $58.6 million in the second quarter of 2022, an increase of approximately $7.7 million or 15% compared to $51 million in the second quarter of last year. We delivered $1.38 of non-GAAP adjusted earnings per diluted share in the second quarter of 2022 compared to $1.20 in the second quarter of 2021.

On a year-to-date basis, non-GAAP adjusted net income was $114.4 million, an increase of approximately $19 million or 19.8% compared to $95.5 million in the prior year period. We also delivered $2.70 of non-GAAP adjusted earnings per diluted share, compared to $2.25 in the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA increased by 26.5% to $88.1 million for the second quarter of 2022 compared to $69.7 million in the same quarter last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased by 50 basis points to 21.7% in the second quarter of 2022 compared to 21.2% in the second quarter of 2021.

The increase in adjusted EBITDA margin in the second quarter of 2022 is primarily due to higher sales, favorable product mix, and increased efficiency in our Gainesville plant, offset by inflationary cost pressures. On a year-to-date basis, adjusted EBITDA increased by 22.9% to $159.9 million. However, the adjusted EBITDA margin decreased by 90 basis points to 20.4% versus the prior year period. Now focusing on our balance sheet. For the second quarter, which ended on July 1, 2022, compared to our 2021 year-end on December 31, 2021, we ended with cash on hand of $108.6 million compared to $179.7 million. Accounts receivable was $195.4 million compared to $142 million.

Inventory was $349.1 million compared to $279.8 million. Prepaid and other current assets were $267.7 million compared to $123.1 million, and accounts payable was $161.6 million compared to $100 million. The increase in inventory as of July 1, 2022, is primarily due to additional raw material purchases to mitigate risks associated with supply chain uncertainty and higher input costs. The increase in prepaid and other assets at the end of the quarter is primarily driven by deposits for securing chassis for our upfitting business, which has been experiencing significant growth. The changes in accounts receivable and accounts payable reflect business growth as well as the timing of vendor payments.

Our net property, plant and equipment increased to $194.6 million as of July 1st 2022, compared to $192 million at the end of fiscal year 2021, reflecting capital expenditures of $19.9 million for the year. Lastly, our interest and other expense went up by $2.8 million versus Q2 of 2021. The primary driver of the increase was a $1.9 million write-off of the unamortized loan fees in the second quarter of fiscal year 2022 upon refinancing of our prior credit facility. Now turning to guidance.

For the third quarter of 2022, we expect sales in the range of $385 million-$405 million, and non-GAAP adjusted earnings per diluted share in the range of $1.15-$1.35 per share. For the fiscal year 2022, the company expects sales in the range of $1.535 billion-$1.565 billion, and non-GAAP adjusted earnings per diluted share in the range of $5.00-$5.30.

For our 2022 full year tax guidance, we still expect our tax rate to be at the higher end of the previously guided 11%-15% range. I'd also like to note that we're not providing guidance on GAAP EPS as it cannot be provided without unreasonable efforts due to the difficulty of actually predicting the elements necessary to provide such guidance and reconciliations. With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to Mike.

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Thank you, Scott. I am pleased with the results that our team has produced in the second quarter. I'm also encouraged that our hard work and focus on optimization of the Gainesville facility is starting to show signs of traction. We do, however, recognize this is only the beginning of our journey to deliver world-class manufacturing results. As we enter the second half of the year, we are cognizant of the challenges ahead arising from the expected change in our product mix, lingering signs of some cost pressures, amplified supply chain obstacles, and all the uncertainties related to the macroeconomic environment.

Having said that, based on the strength of our financial performance and our incredibly resilient and capable team members, we remain committed to structurally enhance our operating model to better position the company to support sustained delivery against our immediate and long-term goals, thus maximizing value for our employees and shareholders. I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one now on your telephone keypad. To withdraw yourself from the queue, you may press the pound key. Again, star one on your telephone keypad. We'll take a question from Michael Swartz of Truist. Your line is open.

Michael Swartz
Director of Equity Research, Truist Securities

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. I just wanted to touch on guidance, maybe the implied outlook for the back half of the year. It looks like you're expecting your EBITDA margins to deteriorate about 200-300 basis points. Is that mostly from the items that you talked about in terms of product mix and some of the supply chain inefficiencies, et cetera? I'm just wondering if there's any type of slowdown in the Georgia manufacturing facility that's embedded in that.

Scott Humphrey
CFO and Treasurer, Fox Factory

No, Mike. Hi, this is Scott. No, I think, you know, as we mentioned, mix is a driver. I'm not sure how you're getting the EBITDA percentage, but I think we'll actually get a little bit of leverage off OpEx as well in the back half of the year. That should help with the EBITDA percentage. Yeah, we're gonna have a headwind in terms of the mix shift to more automotive OE in the back half of the year and continued growth in throughput out of Gainesville, which is a positive.

Michael Swartz
Director of Equity Research, Truist Securities

Okay, great. The second question I have is just on Mike, your commentary around the bike business. I'm trying to decipher if that was really any different than what you said before. I think you had said you expected a return to normal seasonality in the back half, but it sounds like, well, I'm just trying to understand. In the third quarter, we're getting back to kind of that mid- to high single-digit growth. Then what does normal seasonality mean for the fourth quarter? Should we expect that to be down year-over-year?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

No, Mike. What I'm really thinking about in Q4 is that you're gonna return to, you know, when you look at the full year of 2022, Q4 is usually not a big quarter in bike, so it will take a step down as it normally would in a usual year. As you recall, in 2021, there was basically no seasonality, actually in 2020 as well. So this is just a function of, you know, the bike industry tends to have a seasonally lower quarter in Q4 than Q3.

Michael Swartz
Director of Equity Research, Truist Securities

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Anna Glaessgen of Jefferies. Your line is open.

Anna Glaessgen
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Hi. Thanks for taking our questions. Appreciate the color on, you know, the Georgia facility getting better. Previously, you talked about, you know, turnover and competition for labor. Could you comment on how that sits today and how you expect that to evolve over the year and as contemplated in guidance?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Yeah. The labor force, Anna, this is Mike, has stabilized pretty well. We're seeing better access to workforce and much less turnover in the workforce that we have in Gainesville. We see that as net positive as we bring that factory, you know, up in efficiency and productivity. Clearly, as you know, you know, if we have skilled workers who stay with us and we can train them over a period of time, they will help drive productivity. We're really happy to see that change from prior quarters to what we saw in Q2 and going into Q3.

Anna Glaessgen
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Great. We've been hearing from peers in outdoor recreation more broadly and on the powersports side that premium segments are outperforming with a little bit of softness toward the value end. Are you guys seeing that, you know, outperforming as far as, you know, where you're specced in the market? Within your product lines themselves, obviously, you guys speak to the, you know, tip of the pyramid generally with the products you sell, but have you seen any dispersion throughout your product lines within that framework?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Yeah. As you know, the majority of our product lines are to a fairly affluent demographic in our consumer base. You know, we're benefiting from that, and we see the demand staying much stronger the more affluent the product is or the demographic is. In some of our product lines, we see a little bit more softness as you kind of come down that curve into more mainstream type products, things like Sport Truck and lift kits as an example. The majority of our products again being at the premium end have definitely weathered the storm better.

Anna Glaessgen
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Great. Thanks. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Our next question is from Jim Duffy of Stifel.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Thank you. Good afternoon. Really nice work on the step-up in the gross margin, guys. The factory efficiencies you referenced, it sounds like that's concentrated in Gainesville, or are you also seeing factory efficiencies in Taiwan with the new facility coming online?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Yeah, Jim, the efficiencies in Taiwan have been a mainstay for us all year. You know, that team has just performed outstandingly well. In Q2, as you know, COVID was, you know, a problem on the island, and they've found ways to work around it, work through it, and still get the job done. The team has just consistently done a great job in Taiwan. The reason why we called it out in the commentary was around Gainesville, as you know, that was a bigger challenge for us in Q1, and the step change into Q2 was really good progress for us. We wanted to call that out. We'll continue to see that progress continue through the balance of the year.

We have a long way to go, but it's nice to see the progress we made in Q2.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Great. I wanted to ask about the upfitting business as well, a nice margin business for you. Our checks have shown you're seeing a really nice expansion of dealers, strong sell-in. There's good evidence of sell-through, but there is more inventory in the marketplace. Mike, can you comment on the inventory position in the channel for that business and where that stands relative to what you think the opportunity is and what you would consider to be a healthy state?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Yeah. We have inventory on hand to get us into Q1 of 2022 now, so we're well-positioned, much better positioned than we were at this time last year. The inventory we have is sold, so, you know, we have to convert those chassis to the upfitted versions and get them out to the dealers. Our dealers are pushing us to deliver them faster. What we're seeing is the sell-through on the dealer lots is as good as it's been in a long time, if not better. We're really happy with that business, and we're confident that's gonna continue to be a very strong part of our business for the balance of the year. I don't see any decreasing of demand in that product line for us.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Great. I'm hoping you can share more about the margin profile of that business. Maybe, you know, directionally, what's the premium to the corporate rate? What's the commission structure there? Is that an offset in the SG&A line? If you can just talk more about the margin and economics of that business, that'd be helpful. Thanks.

Scott Humphrey
CFO and Treasurer, Fox Factory

Yeah, Jim. Well, we don't specifically break out gross margin for the upfitting business, but it is nice business. Yes, you're correct, there is a split into OpEx of how they do commissions for those sales. You will see, like, on a percent of revenue, we had an uptick in OpEx percentage this quarter, a small one, and one of the big drivers of that is increased commissions for the upfitting business. Yes, there is a little bit of while it might be benefiting gross margin, it's hurting the OpEx line.

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Jim, I would just add that, you know, that's an aftermarket business for us, so it tends to have aftermarket-type margins, which we really appreciate. Relative to OEM margins, it's you know, on the higher end.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Alex Perry of Bank of America.

Alex Perry
VP of Equity Research, Bank of America

Hi, thanks for taking my questions, and congrats on a strong quarter here. I just wanted to ask, gross margin came in very strong on the quarter. Maybe could you just give us a bit more sort of quantitative color on how much of a contributor the Georgia factory helped on the PVG side? Is that, you know, performing sort of ahead of your expectations now? And then are you still sort of expecting a similar margin uplift on the PVG side due to the throughput efficiencies from Gainesville as you've talked to us in the past?

Scott Humphrey
CFO and Treasurer, Fox Factory

Yes. I mean, we still anticipate that 250-350 basis point improvement. I think what we did in Q2 was really get us back to maybe where we were last year as we were ramping up the facility. So we made a lot of really positive progress in the quarter, but still have some significant improvements still to come, and we'll continue to see that, you know, over the back half of the year and even into next year, I would imagine. As far as the gross margin in the quarter, yeah, I think a couple things. On the whole, you know, we talked a little bit about mix already, but you had a really positive mix story in Q2. Really strong volume, as you saw in SSG, strong upfitting volume.

You know, as we look at the back half of the year and some programs on automotive OE kind of ramping up and gonna drive some additional sales through those percentages of those different businesses' contribution to gross margin are gonna shift. That's what gives us, you know, we have strong demand across the board, but it's gonna have a little bit of a headwind for us going forward here.

Alex Perry
VP of Equity Research, Bank of America

Perfect. That's incredibly helpful. Just a sort of high-level question here. How are you guys thinking about a slowdown in the overall U.S. consumer, and sort of what's embedded in the guidance? Is it sort of assuming a similar, you know, end market trend as you see now, and then, you know, are you not seeing the same sort of slowdown as other discretionary players in the space given sort of the depleted inventory levels at retail over the past few years? Do you think there'll be sort of a, you know, you're experiencing a bit of a pent-up demand effect now?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

You know, it's as I said earlier, I think we will see some slowness in certain parts of the product line. Keep in mind, in a lot of our product lines, we're in still a backlog situation. We're still trying to meet the current demand, let alone future demand. I see that persisting for the majority of the rest of this year. You know, I think it's a little too early to make a call on 2023 and what might happen from a macroeconomic perspective. For the balance of this year, in most of our product lines, we're gonna continue to just try to keep up with the demand that we already have. That will drive, I think, obviously a strong Q3 and Q4 based on the guide that Scott just gave you.

As you know, we're pretty conservative in the way we think about the future, and we take a lot of consideration into what we think could happen from both a positive and negative perspective. We'll continue to be that way and we'll update guidance as we get through Q3 and have this call at the end of the Q3 period.

Alex Perry
VP of Equity Research, Bank of America

Perfect. It's very helpful. Best of luck going forward.

Operator

Thanks, Al. Our next question is from Ryan Sundby of William Blair. Your line is open.

Jessye McVane
Equity Research Associate, William Blair

Hi, this is Jessye McVane on for Ryan. Thanks for taking my question. We've had several other companies talk about how the current economic environment has improved M&A deal flow and pricing expectations. Is this something that you've seen as well?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

We do see M&A starting to open up, and that's good for us. As you know, we've been working on M&A or trying to drive M&A for over a year. Actually closer to two years. It's been a tough market to do, you know, good, solid, productive M&A. We do see that starting to improve, and I think we're excited about the opportunities that are shaping up. Hopefully we get back to a more acquisitive environment, and you know we'll see what happens. Your second question was on pricing. You mean pricing for products?

Jessye McVane
Equity Research Associate, William Blair

No, talking about deal pricing as well.

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Oh, yeah, deal pricing. Yeah, I think that's coming back in line, at least it seems to be. We'll see how that plays out. I think it's a little bit less inflated than it was, let's say a year ago.

Jessye McVane
Equity Research Associate, William Blair

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Once again, if you'd like to ask a question, that is star one on your telephone keypad. We'll move next to Larry Solow of CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Luigi Goto
Partner, Managing Director, and Equity Analyst, CJS Securities

Hey, it's Luigi Goto for Larry Solow. Good afternoon.

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Luigi.

Luigi Goto
Partner, Managing Director, and Equity Analyst, CJS Securities

Just to start with, on the bikes, given we're just at the beginning of the 2023 bike selling season, are there any early updates you have on new design win momentum and maybe how that might compare to the last couple years for you?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

You know, I think we still feel very strongly about our spec wins and where we're at in those relationships. You know, some of those things have kind of shifted a little bit relative to timing of new model years and the continuation of old model years just based on the backlog. That's been going on for like the last year. I think that'll continue to go on to some extent. For the most part, we're really happy with where we're sitting now and where we're positioned for 2023. There is nothing but positive feedback to give you on kind of where we're at relative to spec.

Luigi Goto
Partner, Managing Director, and Equity Analyst, CJS Securities

On the truck-up business, I understand everything you're building now is already sold. What visibility do you give to the order flow at dealers today, and how does the current backlog and demand look for the walk to a dealership to order a new truck?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

You're breaking up a little. Let me do my best to try to answer that question. You know, what we're seeing from the dealers, again, they would take trucks as fast as we can produce them, and we're producing them as fast as we can. I think that demand is gonna stay healthy again through the balance of this year and into next year. You know, that is a fairly high end of our product lines relative to, you know, trucks that can cost $120,000 -$130,000 . That buyer of those vehicles is fairly affluent, and I think that keeps that demand strong. I don't see any negative pressure on sell-through at this point in time.

You know, we're doing our best to try to increase our dealer count as we try to increase our productivity in producing more vehicles on a daily and weekly basis. We'll continue to push for more dealers and continue to make sure that we get kind of the premium positioning in those dealers to sell our vehicles. So far that's working really well for us.

Luigi Goto
Partner, Managing Director, and Equity Analyst, CJS Securities

Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Kennison of Baird. Your line is open.

Craig Kennison
Director of Research Operations and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking my question as well. Mike, I think in your prepared remarks towards the end, you talked about being cognizant of a variety of factors, including supply chain obstacles that were accelerating. Could you maybe just add more color to that challenge?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Yeah. You know, what we're finding is probably less about acceleration, more about just continuation. You know, one of the things you're seeing is our inventory still remains high. That's a function of long lead times where you can get, you know, 90% of the components you need, but you can't get the final 10% to complete product. Those challenges in the supply chain, especially in the powered vehicle side, continue, and I think those will continue, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, for the balance of the year. I'm hoping that things start to lessen relative to logistics, freight, and manufacturing lead times. We're starting to see some areas where that's improving. Let's hope that continues to improve throughout the balance of the year and we're having a different conversation in 2023.

For the purposes of forecasting the rest of this year, I think we should continue to think that the, you know, lead times and supply chains will continue to be a challenge, and we'll need to, you know, work through those issues on a daily basis.

Craig Kennison
Director of Research Operations and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Thanks. In the press release, you talked about slowing hiring and spending just to get ahead of what could be a potential slowdown. I'm curious, should we anticipate any impact on your 2025 plan based on the change in your hiring strategy?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Not at all. If you look back over the last couple of years, and Scott's talked about this as well in prior earnings calls, we've built a lot of infrastructure. We've spent a lot on CapEx. We've been very growth-oriented in how we've structured the company, and you've seen that in the numbers over the last couple of years. This is just a good chance for us to pause and think about CapEx and think about headcount a little bit differently and make sure that we're kinda lagging that growth. I think we're really well positioned right now with the infrastructure we have and the capacity we have. This is not about taking down any future guidance.

This is really just about taking a look at seeing what happens in the economy and really just internally making sure that we don't build too far ahead of demand. I think we're in great shape.

Craig Kennison
Director of Research Operations and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

As you look at that 2025 plan, which I think you announced about a year ago, where do you feel better about your ability to execute on that, and where might there be a tougher hill to climb?

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

We feel pretty good about that plan across the board, to be honest with you. You know, what we expected to see in terms of, you know, long-term guidance from the different product lines is materializing as we expected it would. We're really happy with our position relative to 2025 and $2 billion of revenue and 25% EBITDA. I think we're tracking right to it. In the last quarter, we saw, you know, the right signs of improvement and progress that give us even more confidence to those commitments.

Craig Kennison
Director of Research Operations and Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Great. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session for today. I'd be happy to return the call to Mike Dennison for any concluding remarks.

Mike Dennison
CEO, Fox Factory

Thanks, Leo. As always, we appreciate everyone taking the time to join us for today's call. We look forward to talking to you again for our Q3 earnings. Until then, have a good evening.

Operator

This does conclude the Fox Factory Q2 2022 earnings call. You may now disconnect your lines, and everyone, have a great day.

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