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IAccess Alpha Virtual Best Ideas Summer Investment Conference 2025

Jun 24, 2025

Moderator

For virtual Best Ideas Summer Investment Conference 2025. The next presenting company is Gaia. If you'd like to ask a question during the webcast, you may do so at any point during the presentation by clicking the Ask Question button on the left side of your screen. Type your question into the box and hit Send to submit. I'd now like to turn the call over to Ned Preston, CFO, and James Colquhoun, CEO at Gaia. Gentlemen, the floor is yours.

James Colquhoun
CEO, Gaia

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Apologies for our tardiness. I'm going to go over a few slides here to kick off. My name is James Colquhoun, the CEO, and

Ned Preston
CFO, Gaia

Hi, this is Ned Preston, the CFO for Gaia.

James Colquhoun
CEO, Gaia

By way of short introduction, I came to the company via an acquisition in 2019. I sold another streaming company into Gaia, became the second largest internal shareholder, was on the board for a number of years, and joined around two years ago, the same day as Ned, as CEO, COO, and then CEO.

Ned Preston
CFO, Gaia

Yeah, actually, we're coming up on our two-year anniversary. It was June 26th of 2023. Great to meet you all. I grew up in Boulder, Colorado, have spent the last almost 30 years in San Francisco, Chicago, and most recently in Boston.

Great to come back to Colorado and be a part of Gaia.

James Colquhoun
CEO, Gaia

To kick off on the slides here, Gaia essentially serves an aggregate of niches that are historically underserved, and the mission is to really create a transformational network that empowers a global conscious community. First and foremost, we consider ourselves a community company, and our main go-to-market right now is a streaming video on demand platform, which I'll share some insights on here in the upcoming slide. Essentially, we have a monthly and annual subscription, which is $13.99 a month and $119 a year. We also have a $299 a year premium membership tier, which includes live broadcasts. We conduct about six events a year from our headquarters here in Boulder, Colorado, which are live streamed to the premium membership tier and available for replay.

Also, we have an in-person audience of about 300 people that can attend. Just last weekend, we had a sold-out event, by a geometry with Ibrahim Karim. The content categories, this, you know, aggregate of underserved niches I was talking about earlier, encompass sort of three core areas. You know, the first being personal growth and transformation, the second being ancient wisdom and unexplained mysteries, and the final being wellness, yoga, and meditation. You may be familiar with the company's previous incarnation, Gaiam , which was a consumer packaged goods company that sold yoga mats and blocks and products. We sold that business off in 2016, and we used part of the proceeds from that sale to buy back stock and to invest in a pure digital play business, which is the core of what we are today.

In terms of our demographic, we skew older, we skew female, we skew highly educated, and we skew higher household income. We call this market segment Avatar Celeste. She is a huge fan of Gaia, often attends our live events, and loves many of the experts and talent that we have on our platform. If we look here at some of the finance highlights, you know, what's core and unique to our business, we believe, is the high cash contribution and gross margin. We operate on a 93% cash contribution and an 86% gross margin. We also have, since Ned and I have joined, you know, as we mentioned at the top of the call, coming up for two years, operated on positive free cash flow, which we've announced, also for Q4 and the full year 2024.

We operate on a negative working capital model business, which means that we're generating cash flow while still negative P&L. We'll look at some more of the cash flow performer metrics in terms of forecasting as we get, you know, towards the end of the presentation. One other point of note here on the finance highlights is that our acquisition costs for a customer have remained relatively steady over the past eight years, and yet our LTV, you know, has tripled. What we're seeing is that, you know, we're able to continue to solidify the retention of our member cohorts, to expand on our pool through price increases and alternate revenue streams as we launch new initiatives, which I'll talk a little bit about later in the presentation, all the while maintaining a relatively stable CAC or customer acquisition cost over this period.

This speaks to the expanding health of the business as we grow. We're very excited about this metric, which you can see in the chart there. In terms of TAM, or total addressable market, obviously, the global exoteric households has ballooned dramatically, you know, with research showing that there's an estimated 1.8 billion global exoteric households by 2029. You know, we then sort of chunk that down into buckets of those willing to pay a subscription and interested in at least one of our topics. We go to our total addressable market, and then we go to our subscriber target. You know, at the end of last year, you know, we published data that we were 860,000 subscribers. Mm-hmm.

Right now, you know, we have a subscriber target of 5 million. In terms of subscribers and ARPU, on this next slide here, sorry, revenue and members, we'll get to subscribers and ARPU in the next slide. You can see the step-up in revenue here, reasonably consummate with member growth. You can see that in the first quarter of 2025, we announced 867,000 members. We're continuing to grow not only net members, but also revenue in line there. If we go to the next slide, you'll start to see that underneath the hood, we're not only growing those two metrics side by side, but we're also expanding upon ARPU and GP per employee. ARPU is going to be, relative to price increases, plus also alternate revenue streams.

For the first time in the company's history, we did a price increase for existing members in Q4 of last year. We did some tests previous to that in some other markets that were very successful. We had previously grandfathered members on existing pricing, and this was something that was uncommon in the industry, and we decided to sort of bite the bullet and increase prices for existing members that had been on these legacy prices. We had a very good result in that. We had, I would say, on average, around an 18%-20% price increase. It was about 18% in the U.S. if we go from $11.99 to $13.99 monthly. And, you know, we had a low 7% churn on that cohort in total, not monthly churn, but a total churn event, which means we're making a 10%-11% margin on average.

The price increase was even higher in some other territories. This has given us the confidence to schedule another price increase in March 2026, which has been approved by the board, and we are working towards that. Additionally, on GP per employee, in Q1 2025, we were over $800,000. We anticipate this being north of $1 million and continuing to expand as the business grows. We want to keep this metric in here to prove that we can grow Opex, including payroll and related, at a fraction of the rate at which we increase top-line revenue growth and continue to prove our leverage in the model. AI will continue to help us do that as we improve upon efficiencies in operations and also in other areas of the business.

One of the sort of unique points of difference that we have, if you comp us to other streamers, is that we have our own facility and campus here in Colorado. We have a 150,000 sq. ft., 13-acre campus about 30 minutes from DIA and just outside of Boulder. We produce primarily on site, which gives us an enormous strategic advantage. You know, I have a media background. I've produced five different movies, two went to Netflix, and all of them are now on Gaia. The most recent one had Joaquin Phoenix as executive producer. When you travel and produce, and if you're outsourcing your production to a production house, which most streamers do, it can really accelerate the expenses of a production. We are able to produce much more efficiently as we have all of our production team on staff.

We're also, we also sit outside of any constraints that might happen in relation to labor strikes or so forth. And so over the years, as we've continued to expand upon our exclusive and owned content library, we have 88% exclusive content. And like I said, no dependence on outside studios. Additionally, the way that consumers watch our content is unique in the streaming space. Often, you know, streaming subscribers tend to oscillate between platforms based on the latest series or show, and they'll subscribe in and out. Our members tend to consume quite a lot of legacy content. One way we measure that is we look at the $2 million of content we produced in the first year of our operation in 2014. That has returned over $23 million in gross profit over the lifetime of that content.

We're seeing the highest return in that content cohort actually in more recent years. That shows that people, you know, tend to view a broad array of content regardless of release date. Additionally, we did some calculations at the end of last year comparing our gross profit to the amortized value of the content on our balance sheet to create a content efficiency multiple of sorts. You can see here for last year, we had $78.8 million in GP. Content was $39 million on our balance sheet. We had a 2x efficiency multiple. If you compare it to Netflix, who spends more on their content on a per-hour basis, you know, that $18 billion in GP, $32.5 billion in content, which was a 0.6x efficiency multiple.

This is something we want to continue to do in order to sort of keep check of our efficiency in production. When it comes to distribution, we are distributor of all major platforms. Sorry, there is an additional slide here on international. We have international rights for almost 100% of our library, 98%. We are also able to expand into foreign languages without the need for foreign operations. We have all of our foreign language teams here at our Boulder campus. Currently, we are live in Spanish, German, and French, including native language titles. We sub and dub our English content library, but we also have a localization content strategy so that we are acquiring and producing content in these markets in the native languages. We are currently 44% international.

We do anticipate it'll be north of 50% within three years, consummate with the industry standards. We have the members in 185 countries. When we look at distribution, we are distributor on all the major platforms. We see our distribution in three buckets. We see it as first-party, second-party, and third-party. First-party is web direct. Second-party is wholly owned apps, things like iPhone, Android, Apple TV, Roku, iPad, Fire TV, etc. I'm not sure if you can see there, but the ratings and reviews on our app stores are, you know, quite impressive. On the iOS store, we have 128,000 ratings with 4.8 stars. Amazon App Store, nearly 15,000 ratings, 4.1, and Trustpilot, over 10,000 ratings at 4.3. Quite a lot of social proof in our category.

Additionally, when it comes to third-party distribution, we have, you know, channel stores within the Amazon Prime infrastructure, YouTube, Fios, Xfinity, and Comcast. Amazon has noted that we're one of their fastest-growing specialty channels in the U.S. We also have Amazon Prime distribution in the U.K., Mexico, and more recently, Australia and New Zealand. We have one of our team going to meet with them this week in Los Angeles, with an eye to expanding into some European territories and further into LATAM. When we look at alternate revenue streams, you know, I think this is something that is a huge, sort of growth lever for the business. We launched Marketplace at the end of last year, which includes retreats, tours, and curated physical products for our members at member-only discount prices. You could think of this as a conscious Costco model.

We are essentially booking the keep from this initiative. If we do an $11,000 tour, members get a 10% discount, so it's $10,000, and we keep about 20%, give or take. It's about $2,000 we would book as 100% gross margin. Keep an eye on, if you look at some analyst projections, our gross margin is not going to contract. It will actually continue to hold or expand slightly. We have a price increase later for March 26, which is another future driver there. We have two product initiatives. We raised some capital in Q1 of this year to fund some initiatives around AI and community, where we are building our own generative wrapper to create a conscious AI chatbot experience within the product and within the apps, which we'll launch on or around the price increase on March 26.

Additionally, a community tech platform, which we'll launch around that time as well, will help our members connect together and feel more part of a global community. There's one other bullet on here I'd add that's sort of coming to prominence now, and that's one of our subsidiaries, which is a private company of which we own 71%. Ignaton has been in development for some time. We recently had a coming-out party and did sort of a pre-launch at a biohacking conference in Austin. We sold out within five hours and took some pre-sales. We've got an incredible, what many investors are calling an unvalued call option sitting within the business currently. We're very excited about the prospect of that contributing to the expansion in our market cap over time. I'll pass over to Ned now for some finance highlights.

Ned Preston
CFO, Gaia

Yeah, I'll just quickly go over about two or three slides here, and we'll make sure we leave 10 minutes for Q&A here at the end. A look back at our performance from last fiscal year, 2024, we finished just over $90 million, which represented an 11% year-on-year revenue increase. Our gross profits and gross margins were stable at 86%, and that continues to improve slightly over the first six months of this year. Our cash contribution margin continued to be over 93%. Really what we like to transition from this P&L slide to is a milestone or pro forma of looking ahead. Really what's nice is the stability or the leverage within our business model. The current analyst estimate for our company is just over $100 million here in 2025.

That'll be up another 12%. We have accelerating revenue growth, and so really that left-hand column is approximately what we expect here in 2025. We’ll be generating north of $5 million in free cash flow, and that represents 6% of revenue. However, as we accelerate in the years ahead to $150 million and $200 million, which, of course, is very important to those alternative revenue streams that James just mentioned, we will be able to continue to do those levels without adding a lot of fixed costs. As you can see, from $100 million- $200 million on top line, our free cash flow actually more than triples, almost quadruples. This is a slide that gets a lot of attention as we talk to investors.

We have actually adjusted this over the two years that we have been here and seen it come to fruition thus far. A quick look at our balance sheet, and now I will turn over to Q&A, is just simply we have a strong balance sheet with over $13 million in cash. That does not include an additional $10 million access to a line of credit that we have not had to lean into at the end of any quarter since we have been here, although it is good to have through operations during a quarter and going forward, the potential of M&A. It is an opportunity there.

Outside of our balance sheet itself, which is improving overall on assets and within our liabilities and equity, we're extremely happy with our deferred revenue, almost doubling in the couple of years that James and I have been here. This really kind of indicates that, as James and I like to say, we are fierce defenders of margin, and we think of our business as a SaaS-like company because we have a growing deferred revenue line. We have an increasing membership base or recurring revenue stream, and a strong balance sheet. What's not included on the balance sheet is our media library, which we value at just over $180 million, and our membership base of 867,000 members at the end of last quarter, which would be valued at about $300 million.

Our NOL is just south of $19 million. Those are all interesting points to our balance sheet. With that, I think I'm going to close it up here and take a peek at questions coming in so we can address some of those. Let's see.

James Colquhoun
CEO, Gaia

Great stuff, Ned. That is 20 minutes and 20 seconds. We have some time for Q&A here. We can probably just handle it from the top here. There is a question here by Cyril. Q1 shows less revenue than Q4. Does that mean the business is shrinking despite a lot of cash and cap? The free cash flow looks far away from the $5.7 million objective for 2025. I will get started on that. I will let Ned jump in a little bit. As we shared in our earnings transcript, for the Q1 results, we had some one-off business line items that performed a little better than expected in Q4 and a little less well than expected in Q1. If you look at our performance compared to analyst projections, we are, you know, around 1% or less off that target.

As I mentioned on the earnings transcript, this was primarily related to our Marketplace initiative. Marketplace was a new business that launched in August 2024, so Q3. It has more of a lumpy revenue stream than we anticipated. It is a new business, so it is a little more difficult for us to project. We also had some Egypt tours as a reasonably large part of the Marketplace initiative in Q1. At the end of last year, the U.S. government issued a travel advisory to Egypt, and that severely impacted the numbers that took these tours in Q1. I am sure you are aware why. I mean, there is, you know, some instability in the Middle East and in particular Egypt borders on Israel. We have made up for that by expanding upon the tours that we are running in Peru for Q2.

We had a sold-out tour, and we have a tour where we're doubling capacity in Q4. That's like almost 60%-70% sold-out already.

Ned Preston
CFO, Gaia

Let me pick it up from there because really, Q1 was down sequentially a little bit, but it was double-digit growth on a year-over-year basis, perfectly into the free cash flow. That was $700,000 for Q1. It will accelerate from there in the subsequent quarters. As James said, we feel as though the sequential growth will come into play and will continue to grow north of 11% on a year-on-year basis, by quarter. By the end of the year, finishing over $100 million and 12%. That free cash flow question leads right into the second question we're seeing here, how much incremental cash flow could add Ignaton for 2025 and 2026. I would say, you know, currently for that, we're not going to speak specifically to Ignaton. It's clearly a large upside opportunity for us on revenue stream.

A portion of that is included into that pro forma that we just presented, but we're not going to talk specifically about Ignaton until later this year, until after our official launch here in Q3.

James Colquhoun
CEO, Gaia

And again to this question on the ownership of Telomeron and the valuations there, what we're most interested here is in the valuation of Ignaton, which is the private subsidiary. You know, we raised capital in that entity. We own 71%. That's where our focus is. And to second what Ned's saying, we'll be sharing more details on this subsidiary as it becomes material. Until then, we're focused on bringing it to market and scaling it as quickly as possible. In terms of CAC to LTV with members, I think one thing that, you know, we don't share, which I could share a little bit here, is that at the end of last year or sort of around mid-last year, we're focusing on higher LTV customers.

You know, while the member growth is not as fast as previous years, this is likely related to a price increase and also focused on higher LTV markets like the U.S., Canada, Deutschland, Austria, and Switzerland, or the DACH region. You know, for our business, like Ned mentioned, the deferred revenue is growing, which means we have more members securing longer tenured membership upfront, which typically come from our higher LTV territories. This is improving the stabilization of the business, which is really important for us moving forward.

Ned Preston
CFO, Gaia

Let me take the next one, and it just, I mean, you probably aren't seeing the question, so I'll just read it off quickly. It says, what are the primary drivers behind the sequential growth in subscriber count, and how sustainable is that trend? I'll, I'll start, and I'd love for James to give some color on this. But, we, we mentioned some of our alternative revenue streams, and really a lot of that's going to be retention and bringing in new customers. So we really do feel is that the material that we stream, whereas in the past was very niche, it's becoming more mainstream. I'm sure you all hear, podcasts and whatnot all the time, and it really is leaning into our space, not just about yoga and meditation, but around spirituality, manifestation, all, all kinds of trends.

We feel as though going back to that TAM slide we showed earlier, that there's going to be more people coming into our space in general. We will also leverage some of the community and the AI aspects that James touched upon earlier, which will really, we believe, allow us to grow that subscription, subscriber count well over a million in the quarters and years ahead.

James Colquhoun
CEO, Gaia

I want to acknowledge we're just at 25 minutes, 30 seconds here. The last question is from Chris around companies making money off selling or licensing content to hyperscalers. Per the most recent earnings transcript, I'm going to be moving towards focusing on this as well as capital needs for Ignaton as a private entity so that'll have no dilutive effect on Gaia as the primary entity. Also, licensing deals for Ignaton coming up from this summer onwards. Kirsten Medvedich, tenured 9+ years at the company, professional from Sony, pitches will be taking over my role as CEO so that I can go work on this. I think it's a huge opportunity for the business, and we're hopeful that we should expect some additional revenue streams from this channel in 2026 as we move towards P&L positive.

Thank you, thank you very much, everyone, and appreciate your time.

Ned Preston
CFO, Gaia

Yeah, looking forward to talking to several of you in one-on-ones, and feel free to reach out anytime with questions. We're very open when it comes to talking to investors. Pleasure talking to you all today.

Moderator

That concludes Gaia's presentation. You may now disconnect. Please consult the conference agenda for the next presenting company.

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