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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Oct 22, 2021

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Glacier Bancorp Third Quarter Earnings Conference. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, CEO of Glacier Bancorp, Randy Chesler. Please go ahead. All right. Thank you, Latif, and good morning, and thank you for joining us today. With me here in Kalispell this morning is Ron Cofer, our Chief Financial Officer Don Sherry, our Chief Administrative Officer Angela Dossi, our Chief Accounting Officer Byron Pollan, our Treasurer And Tom Dolan, our Chief Credit Administrator. We closed out the 3rd quarter encouraged by our Loan growth, which came on strong in the later part of the year. We think our company footprint covers some of the best Growth markets in the country, and it's great to see those markets showing continued signs of increasing activity. Our people and our unique business model once again produced very strong results in all of our divisions across the West. So I'll touch on some business highlights first and then provide some additional thoughts on the quarter. The loan portfolio, excluding payroll protection program loans, had strong growth of 382,000,000 or 14% annualized. The loan portfolio grew $711,000,000 or 9% annualized from the beginning of the year. Core deposits continued to flow into our divisions, growing $742,000,000 or 18% during the quarter and growing $2,700,000,000 or 25 percent annualized from the beginning of the year. Net income for the 1st 9 months of the year was $234,000,000 an increase of $50,000,000 or 27% from the $185,000,000 in the 1st 9 months of the prior year. Pretax pre provision income was $285,000,000 for the 1st 9 months of the current year, an increase of $18,000,000 or 7% compared to the $266,000,000 in the prior year 1st 9 months. Net interest income, Excluding PPP loans, in the current quarter was $154,000,000 an increase of $4,600,000 or 3% from the prior quarter. Net interest income excluding PPP loans for the 1st 9 months of the current year was $452,000,000 an increase $22,500,000 or 5% over the same period in the prior year. Our efficiency ratio for the current quarter was 50.17%. Excluding PPP loans, the efficiency ratio was 53.59% compared to 53.53% in the prior quarter. Nonperforming assets of $51,200,000 as of current quarter end decreased $1,900,000 or 4% from the prior quarter. NDA to assets ended the quarter at 24 basis points. Net charge offs to average loans Was 2 basis points for the current year to date period compared to 3 basis points in the prior year same period. And we declared a quarterly dividend of $0.32 a share. The company has declared 146 consecutive quarterly dividends and has increased the dividend 48 times. We saw excellent loan growth in our markets with Wyoming, Sona and Idaho leading the growth across our 8 state footprint with all markets growing a total of 382,000,000 or 14% annualized excluding PPP loans. We are pleased to see That almost all of the growth came from commercial real estate. New loan production for the quarter was strong With over $1,600,000,000 in new loans originated. We continue to deepen the relationship With the 3,000 new customers we picked up as part of Round 1 Triple P with over $400,000,000 in loans made to this group so far. We now have about $370,000,000 of round 1 and 2 PPP loans still on the books Out of a total of over $2,000,000,000 that we originated starting in 2020. As I noted last quarter, we still have some growth headwinds with borrowers using excess liquidity to pay down loans and the increasing level of competition for new business. We continue to stick to our disciplined lending and risk management strategies and generally see most of the players in our markets still avoiding a race to the bottom on credit, but we see price competition continuing to heat up for the best loans. That being said, we are very happy to enter the Q4 of the year with Very good momentum and a very strong pipeline of new loans. Considering all of this, our original target of 4% to 6 percent full year growth for 2021 excluding PPP is more likely to be closer to 8% to 10% when we close out the year. Core deposit growth continues to be surprisingly strong across our footprint, driven by excess customer liquidity Due to the unprecedented government stimulus, lack of spending due to the pandemic and our success in establishing new deposit Relationships. Core deposits increased $742,000,000 at the end of the quarter and totaled over 17,000,000,000 Most importantly, the core deposits have a cost of 6 basis points, down 1 basis point from the prior quarter and down 7 basis Non interest bearing deposits increased 325,000,000 or 5% over the last quarter and increased $1,200,000,000 or 21% from the prior year Q3. Non interest bearing deposits are now 38% of core deposits. Total debt securities of $8,500,000,000 increased $1,300,000,000 or 19% from the prior quarter and are up $4,200,000,000 or 97 percent from the prior year Q3. We continue to purchase debt securities with the excess liquidity from the increase in core deposits and the SBA forgiveness of PPP loans. Debt securities represented 40% of total assets at the end of the quarter compared to 35% last quarter And 30% at the end of 2020 24% a year ago. We will continue to fully invest excess deposits, buying highly liquid and high quality investments with shorter duration, given current low but increasing rates with the plan of putting these deposits to work as we continue to grow. The company's net interest margin as a percentage of earning assets on a tax equivalent basis for the current quarter was 3.39% compared to 3.44% in the prior quarter and 3.92% in the prior year Q3. The core net interest margin was 3.17% compared to 3.33 in the prior quarter and 4.02 in the prior year Q3. Earning asset yields have decreased from the combined impact of the significant increase in the amount of debt securities and the decrease in yields on both securities and core loans. The yield on debt securities ended the quarter At 1.62 percent, that's down 12 basis points from the prior quarter. Fueling the decline In the investment portfolio yield was the addition of over $1,000,000,000 of new debt securities in the quarter at a rate of around 1%. The yield on the loan portfolio ended the quarter at 4.86%, down 16 basis points from the prior quarter. We added $1,600,000,000 in new core loan production With yields around 4.1%, which drove the total loan portfolio yield down. Given the interest rate environment, our focus continues to be on growing net interest income, which for the quarter Increased $4,600,000 less Triple P. Non interest income $34,800,000 declined about $700,000 or 2% from the prior quarter, Due primarily to the reduced gain on sale from residential mortgages, which decreased 2,200,000 or 14% from the prior quarter. The hot housing market and refinancings slowed down a bit across our footprint. Our biggest concern in the real estate business remains the supply of homes available for sale. The efficiency ratio was 50.17% in the current quarter, 49.92 percent in the prior quarter and 48.05 percent in the prior year Q3. Excluding PPP, the ratio would have been 53.59% in the current quarter compared to $53,530,000,000 in the prior quarter $50,501,000 in the Q3 a year ago. Intangible book value per share increased in the quarter from 18.74 to $19.11 or 2%. Our combination with Alta Bancorp We closed the transaction October 1, a full month earlier than planned as we received all regulatory approvals sooner than expected. I've been very impressed with the Alta team's Focus on continuing to serve customers and growing the business. We continue to work closely with Alta on The planning for our core processing conversion in March of 2022. ALTA has a very good technology platform and we are studying many products that may be a good fit for our other divisions. I received a lot of questions about M and A Since a number of the recent MOEs were announced and while we see the MOE banks embracing a new strategy, We intend to stick to our disciplined approach on M and A that has proven to be successful for us. Our focus today is on Alta, and we want to make sure we fully complete our integration before we look for another transaction, Given the strong EPS accretion that Ulta will produce for Glacier, remember this transaction produces almost The same EPS as our last five transactions combined. The Glacier team accomplished a lot in the 3rd While we are still dealing with COVID in many markets, the team achieved great results. The loan growth we experienced in the quarter was great to see, and we think we are very well positioned to close out 2021 strong and be well positioned to continue to grow in 2022. So that ends my formal remarks. I'd now like Latif Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Rulis of D. A. Davidson. Your question please. Yes, good morning. Good morning, Jeff. Just a few questions on Alta, focused on that. And maybe the first one for Tom. Just trying to get a sense for as you get under the hood a bit more, Kind of the health of the portfolio given that the bank had done some sort of pre pandemic pruning And just get a sense for as you get your arms around that portfolio in detail, how the credit profile meshes Sure, Jeff. The portfolio we're very pleased with. The pruning they did pre pandemic proved to be A successful strategy for them and they continue to show that through their asset quality metrics, which as of today, At the end of the quarter, we're 15 basis points NPAs and continued to show positive trends. So what we've seen so far, We're very pleased with and I think that was accomplished largely because our 2 credit cultures were very similar. And so, thus far, they've been able to fold in quite easy with Glacier. Great. And kind of off that base, Randy, I think the idea at Alta was Had done that pruning and then they were turning to growth. And so same question, I guess, as you engage with that A bit more kind of the growth potential of that platform, just to kind of give us an update of your latest thoughts. Yes. No, we've spent a lot of time in Utah. We all have with the team. They are doing a great job Focusing on their customers, taking some of the products and services and bigger balance sheet that we offer and getting out to their customers. And we've seen against the backdrop of a market that's very strong We still believe a lot of those long term growth trends that make Utah the number one Growth market in the country and number one economic economy on a lot of They're incredibly well positioned to take advantage of that. They've got a very good team in place in all the right markets. So we've seen that we've seen the results of that as we've Brought them on board, and I think they're very well positioned for 2022. Great. And maybe a last one, a little more mechanical, maybe for Ron, just on the expense Brian, if you've got a general idea of kind of the core base this quarter if we Get out the merger costs, but then as you kind of where do you think you settle in run rate on a quarterly basis with Alta, I guess pre and post conversion. Thanks. Yes. Jeff, this is Bahn here. So on a excluding the merger related, Our best estimate for the Q4 is $122,000,000 to $125,000,000 And That run rate will stay probably true for the Q1 and then in the next year and then the second quarter as we Begin to really get into the cost savings that we modeled, that could come down. It just depends on how fast we're going to realize that. In the merger model, as we published, we said we could save 17.5% of their non interest expense and that would be over 2022. So it all looks good. Great. Thanks. I'll step back. Thank you. Our next question comes from David Feaster of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, everybody. Good morning, David. Good morning. I just wanted to start maybe on the Fee income side was nice to see another strong quarter. Mortgage continues to outperform. I just wanted to get a sense of The trends that you're seeing in mortgage and maybe whether you'd expect to kind of track MBA forecast? And then just any updates on the mortgage outlook, Just given the inclusion of Ulta and some of the opportunities and capabilities that they bring to the table. Yes. So yes, one of the very nice things about Alta is they have a very high quality Mortgage business led by a very capable team and leader. So we think that coupled with What I mentioned before on the strength of those markets, it's a great opportunity In terms of the future, NBA right now is forecasting About 35% drop in origination volumes next year. We don't we think we'll be maybe off closer to 25% versus this year. And a good part of that is the lift we'll get from adding Alta Onto our platform and again, in a lot of our markets, we should benefit because we do well in Purchase environments, we have strong market share. It's if there's any limiting factor, as I noted in my comments, it's just To supply houses for sale. So we're we think it will be another really good year for the mortgage business. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon King of Truist Securities. Your line is open. Hey, good morning. Good morning, Brandon. Yes. I wanted to touch on the CRE growth. It was Pretty strong in the quarter and it seems like you gained momentum there. If you could just discuss what you're seeing there and the outlook going forward? You also mentioned The intense pricing intense competition from competitors and are you competing on price a little bit there to get some of that growth? Just wanted more color on that. Sure, Brandon. This is Tom. The pipeline remains Very solid. Obviously, given our markets, it's going to be centered in theory. So we are happy to see that growth in the Q3. We definitely are seeing continued pressure on pricing and even more so in some of the larger metro markets, Some of the smaller markets where we have a controlling market share, we're able to hold pricing a little bit better, which is why I think on average, We're still seeing new production, just slightly north of 4%. But for A Paper, which is Obviously, our focus, and once deals are north of 7 figures, we're continuing to see some pretty strong pricing pressure there. And We're certainly willing to compete there on that side for the right opportunity and the right relationship rather than Compromising credit quality, we have not done that nor will we do that. So I would say the outlook for 4th quarter given our pipeline and some of the tailwinds we have with some of the unfunded construction projects that we booked, I think gives us a lot of momentum going into the 4th quarter. Okay. Thanks. And then on to excess liquidity management, I know deposit growth remains strong. And I know you're deploying most of that excess liquidity into securities But is there a certain level of cash to earning assets that you're trying to manage to based off the level of Deposit growth that you're getting, is there a certain level that you're managing to? No. I think that we have a certain we have a ballpark cash range that we maintain on the balance sheet to For certain liquidity measures we have, but that's what we would consider our baseline And that's to meet obligations and more for just business management. But other than that, it's a function of The ability to reinvest it and how quickly we want to our read of the markets and how quickly we want to reinvest The cash that we are seeing come in. Okay. And then also on that note, based off what you've seen recently, Are you more confident in the strong growth in deposits, those excess cash balances staying on the books for customers? Yes. We continue to see the deposits come in. All is a little more than we expect. Every quarter, we think it's going to slow down. And at this point, we don't see a big catalyst that's going to drive those deposits out. Okay. Thanks for answering my questions. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Randy Chester for closing remarks. Actually, I'm sorry, sir. One moment. I believe we do have another question in queue. Tim Coffey of Janney. Your line is open. Thank you. Got it under the wire. Randy, can you kind of talk about the trends in business formation that you're seeing within your footprint? I mean, there's been a lot of growth in the population and your states. And I'm wondering kind of what you're seeing in terms of business formation and what you're doing to attract some of those new businesses to the bank? Sure. Yes, I think we are just really starting to see that. We always knew that, that would follow The in migration, so the people really started to come in first. And so we see 2 things Developing now more clearly. One is businesses are coming, relocating in. I'll Talk about that in a second. And also, we have people we have businesses looking to expand to meet The bigger population base. So we have 2 things really starting to happen and we're we see the stress in the service Around the footprint in terms of with more people added, just not enough service providers. So That's unfolding. We're starting to see we're beginning to see that more with warehouse storage building As the first prong of that, I'd say the most active state in our 8 state footprint for New business relocating in is Arizona. They're getting a very good flow of business, interested in going to Arizona from California. So that's Probably our most active market where we're really starting to see those trends develop. And as you start to see these trends progress further, do you think that could increase your annualized loan growth rate or just Results in better credits in the portfolio or mix? Well, we're always looking for good quality. So I think that's Pretty consistent. It will certainly help with the growth rate and we're just we're Starting the budgeting process, so it's a little early to tell what that growth rate will look like. I think you're already seeing Real strong growth start to break out in this quarter. We are going to enter the or in the 3rd quarter, we're going to enter the 4th quarter With a lot of momentum and we'll see still a bit early through the budgeting Just so we'll know more at the end of this quarter just what 2022 looks like. But at this point, I'd say the We're very optimistic about 2022. Okay, great. Thanks. Those are my questions. All right. You're welcome. So, we'll keep anyone else in the queue. Yes, sir. Actually, we have a follow-up question from Jeff Rulis of D. A. Davidson. Your line is open, sir. Thanks. Hey, Randy. Just had a couple housekeeping, maybe for Ron. Looking at the other expense line item, if we exclude merger expenses, that was up linked quarter by a couple of million. Is any detail on What was in that line? It really is a sundry amount of different accounts. There's nothing particular. Got you. And then, Ron, the tax rate ticked down a bit. Any thoughts about How you close the year and maybe outlook for 2022 with Alta on board? So that just on the Tax expense, I think we'll end the year just a somewhere between 19% and 19.5%. It ticked down in this Q3 because of the pandemic. We're pretty significant investor in low income housing Tax credits in particular. And so when you have to amortize the equity, we were using projections from all of the different syndicators we And when the scheduled K-1s came in, we had to true it up. So that's a one time reduction. But clearly, a benefit that showed up. So 19.1% is where we are right now, and I think we'll finish a bit higher if you could even use 19.3%, somewhere in that range. And then for 2022, I would take that to as high as 20.5%, no higher than 21%. The reason I have to give that range, we're looking to put on more tax credits once we were in the Past the LOI and the merger agreement, I've been talking to syndicators about putting on more Federal tax credits, low income housing certainly, but we're also looking at increase in our new market tax credits and those Reduce credits faster. So depending upon when I can close those, when they're available, that's the reason for the fluctuation in the tax rate. Thank you. And Mr. Chesler, the queue is clear. Standing by for your remarks. All right. Thank you, Latif. And Well, we want to thank everybody for dialing into the call today. Wish you a great Friday and a great weekend. Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.