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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 9, 2022

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the HCI Group second quarter 2022 earnings release conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kevin McGowan, the company's CFO. Kevin, the floor is yours.

Speaker 7

Thank you, Jenny. This is Michael from Gateway Investor Relations. Thank you and good morning. Welcome to HCI Group's second quarter 2022 earnings call. On today's call is Karin Coleman, HCI's Chief Operating Officer, Mark Harmsworth, HCI's Chief Financial Officer, and Paresh Patel, HCI's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Following Karin's opening remarks, Mark will review our financial performance for the second quarter of 2022, and then Paresh will provide an operational outlook. To access today's webcast, please visit the investor information section of our corporate website at hcigroup.com. Before we begin, I would like to take the opportunity to remind our listeners that today's presentation and responses to questions may contain forward-looking statements made pursuant to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Words such as anticipate, estimate, expect, intend, plan, and project, and other similar words and expressions are intended to signify forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future results and conditions, but rather are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Some of these risks and uncertainties are identified in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Should any risks or uncertainties develop into actual events, these developments should have material adverse effects on the company's business, financial conditions, and results of operations. HCI Group disclaims all the obligations to update any forward-looking statements. Now, with that, I would like to turn the call over to Karin Coleman, Chief Operating Officer. Karin?

Karin Coleman
COO, HCI Group

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. The second quarter of 2022 marked another quarter of growth. Our insurance division gross premiums earned were up 30%, and our national expansion continued, with premium outside of Florida approaching a quarter of our business. There were two main items that impacted our financial results. First, investment income with unrealized losses were impacted by market decline. Second, we've strengthened reserves in response to inflation and litigation. These two items resulted in an $8.5 million loss for the quarter. In strengthening reserves, it resulted in a 7.8% increase to our loss ratio. To offset this, we filed meaningful rate increases, 10% at Homeowners Choice and 12% at TypTap. We also executed on a number of key items this quarter.

First, we raised more than $170 million through issuance of convertible notes, increasing our flexibility at a time when capital is scarce across our industry. Paresh will speak more to this in his remarks. Second, we finalized our reinsurance with pricing and terms comparable to last year while maintaining a conservative program with modest retentions and substantial limits. With reinsurance in place, Demotech reaffirmed our A, Exceptional ratings at both Homeowners Choice and TypTap. Third, we continue to optimize our balance sheet, repositioning our investment portfolio to generate income. Finally, we remain committed to returning capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, and continue to view our stock as an attractive investment. During the quarter, we repurchased shares representing approximately 10% of the company, and we paid a dividend of $0.40 per share, our 47th consecutive quarterly dividend.

In summary, we continue to position HCI to take advantage of the opportunities in front of us while managing the business to maximize shareholder returns or returns for our shareholders. Now I'll turn it over to Mark, who will provide more detail on our financial results. Mark?

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Thanks, Karin. In the second quarter last year, net income was $3.8 million. In the second quarter of this year, we had a net loss of $8.5 million. Half of that change came from realized and unrealized changes in the value of equities in our investment portfolio, as the overall market declined more than 16% in the quarter. The balance of the difference came from a higher loss ratio, which increased from 40.1% to 47.9%. There were three reasons for the increase. First, business mix simply relates to premium growth coming from lines with a higher loss ratio. The second reason was inflation, which resulted in us making higher current period loss selections. The third factor was adjustments we made to some prior period loss selections for inflation and some adverse litigation development.

We continued to build reserves by expensing more than we were paying out in claims. In the first six months of this year, non-cat claims paid were $30 million less than what we expensed. There were also a number of positive trends this quarter. First, the company continues to grow. Gross premiums earned were up 30% over the same quarter last year. Second, as Karin mentioned, we completed our reinsurance program for the new treaty year. Our net premiums ceded, assuming no storms, are expected to be $245 million for the treaty year that started June 1st, and we expect reinsurance as a percentage of premiums to continue to be lower this year than last. Third, policy acquisition expenses as a percentage of gross premiums earned are coming down because TypTap is paying lower commissions. Fourth, investment income is going up.

We kept cash on hand waiting for the interest rate environment to improve, and it has. So far this year, we have bought over $350 million of short duration fixed income securities, and as a result, investment income is increasing. Lastly, we are continuing to adjust rates to compensate for inflation. As Karin mentioned, in August, we implemented rate increases for Florida homeowners in both TypTap and Homeowners Choice. As these higher rates are earned, we expect the loss ratio to start to improve. There have been a number of favorable developments on the balance sheet as well. In May, we closed on a new convertible debt issue. We set out to raise $150 million, and we were significantly oversubscribed.

We raised gross proceeds of $172.5 million at a rate of 4.75%, maturing in June of 2042. We started this year in a solid liquidity position, and that position is even stronger now. Both of our insurance companies are in strong surplus positions, and we have significant dry powder at the holding company level. We have over $170 million of cash and investments at the holding company level and full access to our credit line with Fifth Third Bank. This is almost twice as much liquidity as we started the year with. Just a couple of other quick points. Our share count for purposes of calculating book value per share and paying dividends is now 9,048,000.

We used $67 million of the convert proceeds to buy back almost 10% of the company on a fully diluted basis. As of June 30th, our fully diluted share count was 11.3 million. In conclusion, this quarter, we addressed our rate needs to combat inflationary pressures. We continued to build reserves. We secured our reinsurance program, and we bought back almost 10% of the company. We also significantly improved our liquidity position. We ended the quarter with at close to $1 billion, a quarter of a billion dollars of liquidity at the holding company level. The actions taken this quarter put us in a strong financial position to execute on our strategy in the future. With that, I'll turn it over to Paresh.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Thanks, Mark. As discussed by Karin and Mark, the main items affecting HCI Group in Q2 were inflation and volatility in equity markets. We have taken corrective measures and continue to execute our business strategy with the company growing 30% year-over-year. Our national expansion beyond Florida, including the UPC transaction, continues as planned, and the results are within expectations. However, we are aware of the turmoil in the Florida homeowners market. These pressures brought about by a combination of increased weather events, inflation, and litigation has and will continue to disrupt existing markets. This has resulted in the liquidation of some carriers this year and leaves many others facing rating downgrades. We have a hard market and diminished competition, but our technology and our management team has shielded us from this turmoil.

In fact, as a company that has successfully navigated the Florida market for 15 years, this turmoil provides a substantial opportunity. To take advantage of this opportunity, the first step was to ensure that we had ample capital, and we have completed that in Q2. In the coming weeks, we intend to apply to set up additional insurance carriers in the state of Florida. We expect these new carriers to begin writing business early next year. Why are we doing this? Basically, homeowners insurance is a product that is in high demand, and it will still be in high demand a decade from now. There is an opportunity here to pick up market share. Now, some are fearful due to present market conditions. We have a track record that lets us navigate through these market conditions.

Secondly, we are focused on the long-term opportunity and intend to capitalize on that opportunity. With that, we will open for questions. Operator, please give instructions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We ask that while posing your question, you please pick up your handset if listening on a speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. Your first question is coming from Matt Carletti of JMP. Matt, please ask your question.

Matt Carletti
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, JMP

Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Good morning.

Matt Carletti
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, JMP

Paresh, I just wanted to follow up on actually that last point you brought up about planning to set up some new companies and be ready to write business next year. How should we think about that opportunity? At least as I think about kind of HCI as it stands today, you've got TypTap, that's kind of organic growth, the independent agents. You got Homeowners Choice that is has a history of being a bit more of a specialist doing book rolls and Citizens takeouts and things like that. How do you see that opportunity unfolding? Will these new companies look like more one versus the other, or is it too early to tell?

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Matt, it's a combination. They will look very similar or a hybrid of HCI, Homeowners Choice and TypTap, yet they will be different. That is why we set them up separately. It will evolve over the coming months, and we will provide more detail as events progress. Yeah?

Matt Carletti
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, JMP

Probably a question for Mark. If you mentioned the upward movement in the loss ratio, the seven or eight points or so, it was a few different things, kind of business mix, the impacts of inflation and prior period development. I was hoping you might be able to break those pieces out, you know, kind of how much of the movement relates to each one.

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Sure. Hey, Matt. Yeah, so in terms of those percentages, the loss ratio is up about 7.8% from the second quarter of last year to the second quarter this year. So about 1.8 of that is the mix that I mentioned. About 3.3% of that is inflation, and 2.7 is prior year development.

Matt Carletti
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, JMP

Okay, very helpful. One last one, if I could just sneak it in, Mark, also a numbers question. Just what is the TypTap surplus at June 30?

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

TypTap surplus at the end of June is, just give me one second here, $90.2 million.

Matt Carletti
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, JMP

All right. Wonderful. All right. Thank you very much.

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Yep. Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your handset at this time. Your next question is coming from Mark Hughes from Truist. Mark, please ask your question.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Yeah, thank you. Good morning. The prior year development, was there any particular trigger for that? There was some legislative action in Florida. Was there a last minute flurry of claims, or was this something that's been building for some time?

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

There's a couple of things going on in there. There's two or three sort of discrete items in there. Homeowners Choice, there was a couple of million dollars of adverse development in Homeowners Choice, and it relates to the anchor assumption from back in 2020. You know, it's a couple of years back, you know, a lot's changed since then. If we look back at that assumption in 2020, we tweaked that loss ratio up a bit. It's largely just related to increasing our litigation picks a little bit for there.

The other thing that's going on is we've got, I think we've talked about it a couple of times before, but Tropical Storm Eta from November 2020, pretty significant difference between the number of lawsuits that we thought we'd get off of the, you know, 1,200 or 1,300 claims that are there than expected. You know, we've been increasing the ultimate selection, if you will, for Eta as a result of that. Again, that's you know, largely litigation driven. Then in TypTap, we've got a couple of accident quarters again from 2020, where we're adjusting up our litigation picks. A lot of it, you know, as I mentioned, is litigation.

Those are sort of the buckets of the adverse development. Just in terms of the litigation trends generally, you know, reported litigation in the second quarter of this year was significantly lower than it was in the second quarter of last year. We do have, you know, just, you know, a few of these accident quarters from 2020 that we're going back and adjusting the initial litigation pick.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

When we think about the inflation and mix impacts.

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Yep.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

What is that? About five point. Does that persist? I guess then maybe just diminish over time as you get these rate increases? How should we think about that?

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Yeah. Good question. So assuming that we've got some rate increases that we mentioned. You know, inflation has been obviously higher than our rate increases. Assuming that the inflation, I don't think anyone's expecting prices to go down. They've gone up, but I don't think anyone's expecting them to go down. If they stay, you know, flat, sort of stay at these elevated levels, then as the rate increases work their way into the book, I would expect the loss ratio to drop a couple of points, you know, each quarter for the next couple of quarters.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Sequentially, some improvement, and then, maybe some improvement after that.

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Yeah.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

A couple of points sequentially each year.

Mark Harmsworth
CFO, HCI Group

Yeah. I mean, it's yeah, exactly. A couple of points in Q3 and Q4.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Yeah. Mark, as you know, the loss ratio went up immediately in the second quarter. The rate increases that we've put through, which are greater than the increase in the loss ratio, will take several months to earn in. As that happens, the loss ratio will drop. It will be a multi-month process. Yeah? Multi-quarter process.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Yep, understood. The I think you've mentioned TypTap paying lower commissions. Could you talk a little bit more about that? Is that across all states? Is that directed in Florida? Will that continue? Yeah.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Mark, we should clarify on that a little bit better. TypTap's business plan always what has been that we pay higher commissions on new business and it drops at renewal. As more of the book renews, the blended commission rate comes down, yeah? It's not necessarily that we are reducing commissions everywhere. We may be doing that in a couple of places, but not dramatically. Most of the effects you're seeing are mainly because renewal commissions are lower than new business commissions.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Understand. You're kind of easing off during storm season. Means there's more concentration of renewals in the period until it-

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Yeah. Well,

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

reduces the numbers.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Look, it's simple math, in a weird way, in the sense of the first year, when you write $100 million of business, it's all new business. Second year, you write $100 million of new business, it's half of it is renewal, half of it is new business. Third year, you write $100 million, it's $200 million of renewal business and only $100 million of new business. So the renewal rates tend to, over time, dominate the new business rates, yeah? It's a natural occurrence and predictable, yeah?

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Yeah. I'll ask the question this way. I think you've done very well historically at keeping losses under control, substantially better than your peers. This kind of appearance of inflation here, you know, Florida has been and your competitors have been undergoing, you know, some stress for a while. You've seen some of it. Why now? I think you've touched on this, but I just wanted to kind of flesh it out a little more if there's anything else to be said. Do you know why? To understand the prior year development, it makes sense that inflation, you know, having more of an incremental impact, you know, 330 points is meaningful. I'm just sort of curious why you think, why now?

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Well, I think the second quarter was moved a lot from what people believing in April versus what people believed by the end of June. One of the big things was, and I'll quote, I think the Federal Reserve Chairman, a shifting in belief that inflation is transitory to inflation is permanent, right? If you remember Mark's earlier comments, Mark, Harmsworth's earlier comments, that he's not expecting prices to come down anytime soon, right? Now you have permanently elevated expenses, you should build that into your business. We have, obviously, by our actions, swiftly moved in that direction. Once we came to that conclusion, that prices are not coming down, we took decisive action. It's

We can't always predict the future, but whenever the present becomes obvious, we take corrective action quickly and efficiently.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Fair enough. What's your appetite for growth in Florida, you know, once we get out of storm season? How should we think about your growth posture, you know, come Q4, for instance?

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Well, therein lies the comments and the question that Mark, that Matthew Carletti asked earlier, right? Because of the turmoil in Florida, we actually see a greater opportunity at this moment in time unfolding in the fourth quarter than maybe we saw six months ago. Now, we wanted to make sure that we communicated this clearly to everybody. TypTap Insurance Company's plans and expansion plans outside Florida are going unabated, unchanged. We see an additional opportunity in Florida, and that's why we're setting up new carriers to take advantage of those new opportunities. Yeah?

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Yep. Yep.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Yeah.

Mark Hughes
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist

Okay. Thank you very much.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Paresh Patel, who has a few closing remarks.

Paresh Patel
Chairman and CEO, HCI Group

Okay. On behalf of the entire management team, I would like to thank our shareholders, employees, agents, and most importantly, our policyholders for their continued support. While we talk about a lot of numbers, we never lose sight of the fact that our primary mission is that we are protecting our policyholders' most valuable asset, their home. With that, thank you very much, and see you next quarter.

Operator

Thank you for joining us today for our presentation. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.

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