Good day, and welcome to The Home Depot Q3 2018 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Isabel Janssi. Please go ahead, ma'am.
Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Joining us on our call today are Craig Meniere, Chairman, CEO and President Ted Decker, Executive Vice President of Merchandising and Carol Tumay, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President, Corporate Services. Following our prepared remarks, the call will be open for questions. Questions will be limited to analysts and investors. Relations department at 770-384-2387.
Before I turn the call over to Craig, let me remind you that today's press release and the presentations made by our executives include forward looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations and projections. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to the factors identified in the release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Today's discussion will also include certain non GAAP measures. Reconciliation of these measures is provided on our website.
NOW. Let me turn the call over to Craig.
Thank you, Isabelle, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased with our results in the quarter. Sales for the Q3 were up 5.1 percent from last year to 26,300,000,000 Comp sales were up 4.8% from last year and our U. S. Comps were positive 5.4%.
Diluted earnings per share were $2.51 in the 3rd quarter. From a geographic perspective, Sales were strong across the U. S. All but one of our 19 regions posted positive comps. The exception was our Gulf region, almost $300,000,000 of hurricane related sales from the Q3 of last year.
While this quarter brought hurricanes Florence and Michael, The scope of devastation was more compact from a geographical perspective than what we experienced in prior year. Nonetheless, these storms did inflict significant damage in our community and our thoughts and prayers are with them as they begin the recovery efforts. Our thoughts and prayers also go out to all those who are currently being impacted by the deadly fires in California. Internationally, both Canada and Mexico posted positive comps in local currency. As Ted will detail, Both ticket and transactions grew in the quarter.
Pro sales once again outpaced DIY sales, But we continue to see a healthy balance of growth from both pro and DIY customers as they shop across the store. We believe this is a testament to the overall strength of demand in the home improvement market. Our digital business continues to be another source of growth. Online traffic growth was healthy and 3rd quarter online sales grew approximately 28% from the Q3 of 2017. Customers continue to respond to ongoing investments and enhancements we are making to drive a frictionless interconnected customer experience.
For example, Buy Online Ship TO Store and Buy Online Pickup in Store sales, both grew faster than the overall online sales growth rate for the Q3. Another key component of the best in class interconnected shopping experience centers on enhanced delivery and fulfillment options. As you know, we are in very early stages of a 5 year investment journey in the One Home Depot supply chain to enable the fastest, most efficient delivery network in home improvement. Today, we can reach Approximately 95% of the U. S.
Population in 2 days or less with parcel shipping. The anticipated end state of the One Home Depot supply chain will enable us to reach 90% of the U. S. Population with same day or next day delivery capability for an extended SKU offering that includes big and bulky goods. In order to get there, we must invest in a number of different facilities to offer greater depth and breadth of SKU availability.
We told you that 2018 would be the year of the pilot as we test and learn with new fulfillment centers. I am pleased to report that we are on track with our plan and we are live with our first few pilot facilities with additional pilots scheduled to open throughout the rest of this year early next year. As we work on our long term initiatives, We are also focused on meeting our customers' immediate delivery needs. We have made great progress with our store delivery enhancements as our car and van express delivery offerings now enables same day delivery of store goods. Since rolling out car and van delivery to over 40% of the U.
S. Population, we have seen increased utilization from both our pro and DIY customers. As we continue to work towards the 2020 goals that we laid out for you in December of 2017, Let me update you on some of our investments, all of which focus on delivering exceptional customer service, driving productivity and simplifying operations. We have implemented our wayfinding sign and store refresh package in approximately 700 stores, ahead of our initial plan. We continue to make progress on the rollout of our redesigned front end areas and Pickup Lockers among other investments.
We are also working to remove friction for our customers while helping our associates As you've heard us say before, customer service starts with being in stock. But beyond just having the product It has to be on the shelf for our customers to purchase, not stored in an overhead. Prior to the rollout of the overhead management application, the The only way an associate could locate product in our overheads was to manually look for it. This new application on first phones helps associates locate product and overheads quickly and accurately, saving them time, improving the customer experience and Enabling Better Inventory Management. Turning to our outlook, as Carol will discuss in more detail, We are updating our sales and earnings guidance for the year.
We now expect fiscal 2018 sales growth 7.2 percent and diluted earnings per share of $9.75 We faced the headwinds from last year's storm related sales in the Q4, but we believe the drivers of home improvement spend are supportive of our business. We remain excited about the investments we are making to ensure that we deliver the best customer experience in home improvement. I want to close by thanking our associates for their hard work and continued dedication to our customers. Our associates not only worked hard to serve our customers in our aisles, but their efforts extend to the communities in which we operate. This quarter marked our 8th annual celebration of service campaign in which our associates volunteered over 100,000 hours in support of veteran housing needs.
In fact, our associates and non profit partners have been hands on in transforming over 1,000 veteran homes and facilities since 2011. We are very proud of our associates who live our values every day. And given that Veterans Day was earlier this week, let me take this opportunity to thank those that have served our country. And with that, let me turn the call over to Ted.
Thanks, Craig, and good morning, everyone. We were pleased with our results in the Q3. The core of our store continues to perform well and we saw growth with both our pro and DIY customers. Looking at our departments, comps in appliances, electrical, plumbing, tools, decor and flooring were above the company average. All of our other departments, but lighting were positive, but below the company average.
The comp in lighting was essentially flat. In the Q3, comp average ticket increased 3.5% and comp transactions increased 1.2%. Commodity prices were volatile in the quarter. While inflation in lumber, building materials and copper positively impacted average ticket growth by approximately 61 basis points in the quarter. Today, lumber prices are below 2017 levels.
In addition, foreign exchange rates negatively impacted average ticket growth by approximately 43 basis points. We continue to see strength in big ticket projects during the quarter. Big ticket sales or transactions over $1,000 which represent approximately 20% of U. S. Sales were up 9.1% in the 3rd quarter.
A few drivers behind the increase in big ticket sales were vinyl plank flooring, Windows, Appliances and Water Heaters. Once again, we saw strong performance in many pro heavy categories as pro sales grew faster than the company's average comp. Pro heavy categories like power tools, concrete and several plumbing and electrical categories all had comps above the company average. We also continue to see a healthy and growing DIY customer as they engaged with us across the store. Categories like safety and security, vanities, lawnmowers, ceiling fans and interior and exterior paint showed strong growth in the quarter.
In the Q3, we hosted several events that helped drive traffic and create excitement in our stores. We were pleased with our annual Halloween Harvest and Labor Day events, which recorded solid growth year over year. As we continue to focus on enhancing the in store experience for our customers, I'd like to highlight some recent initiatives we have been working on MET, our merchandising execution team. This seasoned team manages set integrity and execute resets throughout the store, bringing best in class speed to market. MET leverages advanced analytics and proprietary technology to drive activity and efficiency in our stores.
We use real time data to understand what categories require attention and leverage our first phones to direct the work activity of our met associates. We want to thank our supplier partners to continue to see the power of partnering with The Home Depot. Our suppliers entrust us with many exclusives and innovative product launches, In large part because of our 400,000 plus orange flooded associates and the enthusiasm they bring to our aisles every day. Two recent additions to our portfolio of exclusive brands are STANLEY hand tools and Troy Bilt Outdoor Power Equipment. Adding Stanley to our lineup of Milwaukee, DeWalt, Husky, Crescent, Empire, Wiss, Bessie and Klein Exclusive Brands makes us the number one destination for hand tools.
And Troy Bilt complements our leading lineup of exclusive outdoor power equipment brands, including Ryobi, Toro, Honda, Cub Cadet, Echo, Ego, DeWalt and Milwaukee. In fact, 14 The 15 top rated gas self propelled lawnmowers in the market are Big Fox exclusives to The Home Depot. Looking to the Q4, we are excited about the upcoming holiday season. In addition to our comprehensive holiday decor offerings, We are thrilled with our 2018 gift center. This gift center is our best yet and features a number of special buys from our leading tool and power tool accessory brands that are also exclusive to The Home Depot, including Ryobi, RIDGID, Milwaukee, Makita, Diablo and Husky.
With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Carol.
Thank you, Ted, and good morning, everyone. In the Q3, total sales were $26,300,000,000 an increase of 5.1 percent from last year. Recall that at the beginning of fiscal 2018, we adopted a new accounting standard pertaining to revenue recognition. The new standard changes the geography of certain items on our income statement, that has no impact on operating profits. In the Q3, the change in accounting positively impacted sales growth by $64,000,000 Further, during the Q3, a stronger U.
S. Dollar negatively impacted total sales growth by approximately $110,000,000 or 0.4%. Our total company comps were positive 4.8 percent for the quarter with positive comps of 6 0.7% in August, 4.1% in September and 3.8% in October. Comps in the U. S.
Were positive 5.4 percent for the quarter with positive comps of 7.5% in August, 4.7% in September and 4.2% in October. The cadence of our monthly comps is due in large part to hurricane related sales. In the Q3 of fiscal 2017, we experienced approximately $282,000,000 of hurricane related sales and the majority of those sales occurred in September October. In the Q3 of this year, we had approximately $150,000,000 of sales related to both 2017 2018 hurricanes. These sales were more equally spread across the quarter.
We estimate that hurricane related sales positively impacted U. S. Comps by 60 basis points in August, but negatively impacted U. S. Comps by 80 basis points in September and 120 basis points in October.
In the Q3, our gross margin was 34.8%, an increase of 23 basis points from last year. The year over year change in our gross margin reflects the following factors. First, the new accounting standard drove 100 and $47,000,000 of gross profit or 47 basis points of gross margin expansion. 2nd, higher supply chain and transportation costs caused approximately 23 basis points of gross margin contraction. And finally, the net impact of all other drivers of gross margin resulted in 1 basis point of contraction.
For the year, we now expect our gross margin rate to expand by approximately 37 basis points. In the Q3, operating expense as a percent of sales increased by 23 basis points to 20.1 percent due to the following factors. First, we experienced 90 basis points of expense leverage and BAU or business as usual expense. Our strong leverage in the core of our business was driven by good expense control, but also reflects some year over year benefit due to certain hurricane related expenses that did not repeat this year. 2nd, the new accounting standard resulted in a $147,000,000 increase to our operating expenses and cost 51 basis points of operating expense deleverage.
And finally, expenses related to our strategic investment plan of roughly $164,000,000 resulted in approximately 62 basis points of operating expense deleverage. For the year. We now expect our fiscal 2018 operating expenses to grow at approximately 131% of our sales growth rate. Our operating margin for the Q3 was 14.7%, essentially flat with last year. Interest and other expense for the Q3 decreased by $23,000,000 to $224,000,000 largely due to tax settlements that occurred in the quarter.
In the Q3, our effective tax rate was 21.4 percent and for the year to date was 23.3%, lower than last year and our guidance. The lower rate reflects tax reform and a few other discrete items that were recorded in the quarter, including a reconcilment of the provisional tax charge we recorded in the Q4 of last year. For fiscal 2018. We now expect our effective tax rate will be approximately 24%. Our diluted earnings per share for the 3rd quarter for $2.51 an increase of 36.4 percent from last year.
Total sales per square Foot for the Q3 were approximately $4.34 up 5.2% from last year. Compared to last year, inventory dollars grew by $1,300,000,000 to $14,800,000,000 and inventory turns remained at 5.2x. The growth in our inventory versus last year reflects the investments we are making to accelerate merchandising assets, higher in stock levels than we had 1 year ago and
some pull
forward of planned inventory purchases. In the Q3, we repurchased $2,500,000,000 or approximately 12,600,000 shares of outstanding stock. We also received approximately 1,000,000 shares related to an ASR program we initiated in the Q2. Year to date, we have repurchased approximately $5,500,000,000 of our outstanding shares and we now expect to repurchase approximately $8,000,000,000 of our outstanding shares for the year. We plan to fund our 4th quarter share repurchases with cash on hand and with proceeds from incremental debt.
In the Q4, we intend to replace $1,150,000,000 of senior notes that came due in September and we may raise additional long term indebtedness, which will take us closer to our targeted adjusted debt to EBITDAR ratio of 2 times. Computed on the average of beginning and ending long term debt and equity for the trailing 12 months. Return on invested capital was approximately 42.2%, 970 basis points higher than the Q3 of fiscal 2017. Turning to our outlook for the remainder of the year, remember that we have a directionally correct, but imperfect model that we use to forecast sales growth. It starts with GDP growth, which is strong.
Consumer sentiment remains near all time highs and unemployment is the lowest it has been in nearly 50 years. Housing related metrics are moderating, But the drivers of home improvement spend are supportive of our outlook. Home prices continue to appreciate, the housing stock is aging, households are being formed and Housing Continues to Turn Over. And while we see healthy home improvement demand, it is important to note that in the 4th quarter, We are up against approximately $380,000,000 of hurricane related sales. Today, we are updating our fiscal 2018 sales guidance to reflect our year to date outperformance.
We are also lifting our earnings per share guidance to reflect our expectations for fiscal 2018 gross margin, operating expense, share repurchases and tax rate. Remember that we guide off GAAP and recall that fiscal 2018 team will include a 53rd week. So the Q4 of fiscal 2018 will consist of 14 weeks. For fiscal 2018, we expect sales to increase by approximately 7.2% with positive comps as calculated on a 52 week basis of approximately 5.5%. For earnings per share, we expect fiscal 2018 diluted earnings per share to grow approximately 33.8 percent to $9.75 With that, I would like to thank you for your participation in today's call.
And Rochelle, we are now ready for questions.
Thank you. The question and answer session will be conducted electronically. If you are using the speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. And our first question today will come from Christopher Horvers with JPMorgan.
Thanks. Good morning. So if
you there's a lot of
questions on the consumer and the home environment and housing. If you look at your 4th quarter guide, it seems like Inflation after some remnant benefit in the Q3, maybe flat, maybe a headwind. You also had to have a harder compare in the hurricane front. So You're still guiding to about 4.5% for the Q4 assuming that the U. S.
Is going to be better than that because of FX. What are you seeing in the business? What gives you the confidence to give that level of a guide?
Chris, I'll give you a high level and let Carol walk you through details. Again, we see overall the environment for home improvement is solid. We're clearly up against significant hurricane numbers. But as we see it, basically 2 year stack comps Would be comparable in the first half and the second half of the year as we look forward. That's really based on the strength that we see for not only the home improvement factors, but what we have lined up for the back half of the year In terms of events and merchandise and great gift center that Ted talked about, we're excited about what we have going in the back half.
That's right, Chris. And we get comfort from our guidance, not only from what we're seeing in the macro environment, but from what we're seeing in our and we are pleased with how the quarter has begun.
Excellent. So I want to fast forward a little bit on tariff risk. You had the experience with appliances. It looked like you largely passed through those price increases. But as you think about a more broad potential tariff for us to How would you just size up your potential risk?
And can you also talk about how you think about investment in sort of And share, some companies have commented that they would try to maintain the gross margin rate. How would you think about balancing gross margin rate versus, let's say, in certain categories, maybe flooring, trying to go after share and drive gross profit dollars?
So Chris, I'll start and let Ted jump in here. We have seen, as you mentioned, we had tariffs impact in laundry, for example. The tariffs that have come through to Date represent about 1% of U. S. Purchases.
And We see more happen in January and who knows what's going to happen. But if the 25% were to go in place, That's going to represent about 3.5 percent of U. S. Purchases. And clearly, we'll work to mitigate as much of that as We run this business on a portfolio basis.
And we will do Everything we can to mitigate pressure on the customer to the best of our ability, but don't think of us Taking cost in one area and that's where necessarily retail gets applied. It's a portfolio approach. We're in the project business.
Yes, I would add to that, Craig. It's manageable is the term I'm using, Chris. Certainly, what we've seen today
is more
than manageable, particularly in the light of that portfolio approach that Craig described. A couple comments of good news. So you look at what happened with laundry and that's Generally a MAP price industry. So the industry did take that price largely attributable tariffs. We also had steel cost in that as well as just the straight laundry tariff.
And while there was an initial reaction to unit productivity, as we've now cycled through that several months, Our laundry sales and unit productivity is on par, if not slightly better than the average of our overall appliance business. So we were able to cycle through that and would expect to see the same again given the strength of demand in other categories as well.
Thanks everybody.
Thank you.
And next we'll move on to Michael Lasser with UBS.
Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. So it sounds like your view is that home improvement demand has and will Decoupled from Housing. How long do you think that can persist and what level of home price
So Michael, I think I And we would phrase that a bit differently. We have this directionally correct, but imperfect model that we use to forecast our sales outlook. As I mentioned, it starts with GDP. And to that, we add the benefits from a number of different housing metrics, including household formation, home price appreciation, the age of the housing stock and housing turnover. And if we look at those drivers, we think they all bode well for our outlook.
Now our outlook would suggest that our 4th quarter comp lower than what we reported in the 3rd quarter, but that's because we are up against almost $400,000,000 of hurricane related sales. And while we do expect to get hurricane related sales in the Q4, we don't expect to get $400,000,000 worth of hurricane related sales. So we factor that into our outlook. In terms of decoupling, there's one metric that's gotten a lot of attention recently and And if you look at housing turnover, housing turnover is lower than we thought it would be at the beginning of the year when we put together our Directionally Correct But Imperfect Model. So we went back and calculated what we believe the impact of a lower housing turnover than what we had projected at the beginning of the year, what the impact has been to our outlook.
And based on our model, which is not perfect, But based on our model, the impact has been 13 basis points. And then one other correlation number to share with At least through the way that we look at the world. We correlated housing turnover with transactions And we don't do a smoothing approach. We do look at the actual data on a 1 month lag basis. If you look at historical correlation from 2000 to now, the correlation coefficient was 0.53.
Okay. But if you go and run it again from 2010 to now, it's 0.4. And if you run it from 2015 to now it's 0.33. So it's decoupled a bit, we think in large part because of the housing shortage in the U. S.
The way that we're talking about housing metrics, it's a bit like a Rubik's cube and you just got to turn it and turn it and turn it until you form a point of view on what it means for Home Improvement spend.
And Carol, that's helpful. And because you've guided for the next few years that Comps will grow in the 5 ish percent range. So should we think about if housing turnover continues to decline at a similar rate and home prices start to moderate that the risk to that forecast Would be in this 13 basis point type range or would not be as significant as what would be implied by the headlines From that outlook.
Again, it's a Rubik's cube. You can't just look at turnover when you're turning the We would need to refresh our point of view on home price appreciation as well because that's been a big driver of our sales growth for sure. We've seen since 2011, homeowners have had a 140% increase in their equity, now up to $124,000 per unit. So real wealth has been created. Home prices are projected to increase in 2019, albeit not at the rate that we've seen this year.
So we are refreshing our point of view. We're not taking our sales growth targets down because we feel very comfortable with the targets that we laid out a year ago. But in February, we will give you the specific numbers for 2019.
And my follow-up question is there's been a lot of well documented pressure on your many of the home improvement vendors. And you've been vocal about seeing an increase in the request for price increases for those that sale products in queue. So putting aside the commodity inflation, are you starting to see an increase in product price inflation associated 90% of your sales that are related to products and do you expect that that's going to continue to increase from here?
We're certainly seeing we are still seeing cost out, but we are seeing a net cost in that we haven't experienced in the last several years and we are seeing an increase in supplier requests For cost in. But again, I'd say they're facing some of the same costs that Carol called out, I mean, people are facing transportation costs. That's what we hear universally again outside, as you said, commodity or tariff. Things like transportation is universal and who knows what happens going into 2019, but that Seems to be the theme for the cost request for 2018.
And Ted, just to follow-up on that, since you quantify the impact the Commodity Inflation provides to your ticket. Could you quantify the impact that non commodity inflation Right. Your ticket?
What we've seen to date, it's less than ticket, than the 60, the commodity That we called out, the 61 basis points.
It's less than that.
Understood. Thank you very much.
And next we'll move to Brian Nagel with Oppenheimer.
Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. So I think I want to follow-up a bit, at the risk of beating a horse here, on the macro environment, follow-up to Michael's question. So Carol, when you talk about Your algorithm which the detail you gave so far is very helpful. Thank you.
Particularly with regard to housing turnover metrics. It sounds to me like you're talking more kind of from a coincidence standpoint and how you're how shifts in these metrics impact sales at Home Depot and was in real time. Have you done any workaround or any insights into how the kind of lead lag relationship? So if we are seeing the somewhat slower housing turn data now, who knows if that's Persist or not, but could that lead could that have a larger impact upon sales at Home Depot at some point in the future?
Well, the correlation coefficients that I shared with you on turnover were based on a 1 month lag. And we haven't done a lot of leading lagging work yet because the environment is so very different than it's been in prior cycles. There's a lot of conversation, for example, on affordability. And we look at affordability too. But what happened last time around when affordability started to, if you will, slow down is the underwriting standards loosened up dramatically.
And that's what led to the housing crisis as we all know. Well, that's not going to happen again because of Dodd Frank. And so you can't look at history necessarily to understand what's going to happen in the future. Got to kind of look at the future and what's happening. And as we look at the future and what's happening, fundamentally, you got to look at the economy and the economy is good.
People are employed. They have more income. They've got more to come with tax reform. So fundamentally, we feel very good about just the drivers of the spend in our business.
Got it. And then a follow-up question. There's been a lot written about, talked about, certain markets within the United States where you've seen pronounced weakness in home sales as a result of either supply issues or Housing prices, whatever. Are you and I think you've discussed this on prior calls, but as you look at your business, whether those areas are Northeast, West Coast, wherever. Are you seeing any in those type of markets, are you seeing any impact upon Home Depot sales?
Yes. So we believe like you that housing is very local. And when you get into the areas of home price appreciation and affordability, it's really local. So we went market by market to see are we seeing any measurable impact on our sales and we just can't see it. Now we're hopefully smart enough to understand that you got to stay really on top of the data because the one watch out of course is, Will affordability with rising home prices and rising interest rates at some point set a market clearing price for all home price We're not there.
And in fact, home prices are projected to increase next year, but we're watching this. I'll just give you one example without giving you the numbers because we don't want to get into a habit of calling out performance by market. But if you look at LA, The affordability index in LA is terrible. It's 59. It's the worst it's been since 2,008.
And our sales in LA are very good.
Helpful as always. Thank you.
And next we'll move on to Chuck Groom with Gordon Haskett.
Hey, thanks a lot. Good morning. Just again on the housing front, Realogy spoke last week about a pretty significant slowdown in October, transactions down 6 percent. And it looks like your October comps were 11.2% on the stack adjusted for the hurricane say up 12.4%, still a little bit of a slowdown year to date. This morning when you look at the month of October, was there anything significant from a volatility Where the customer was buying or how they were buying?
Overall, I mean, again, when you think about what Happened in last year's hurricanes, as Carol called out, there was more hurricane pressure that we faced in October than in September. And clearly September October combined were much more significant from a pressure standpoint than at
the beginning of the quarter.
And even if you ignore hurricanes, There wasn't anything dramatically different in the business other than the volatility in commodity prices. At the end of the quarter, we saw lumber prices Small Precipitous Way. But I think, Ted, that actually was in some ways a good news.
No, that's very good news. So if you look at Some of the cost pressures we are seeing, on the one hand with certain commodities and tariff, we have seen a Dramatic decrease in wood fiber costs. So we went down at one point of the year, we were 40% above the prior year. We're now 24 ish percent below prior year. And as those lumber prices have come down, Unit productivity has moved dramatically and we believe kick starting more project business, which is obviously Great for us.
And one reason why we really are concerned about the Q4 from a commodity perspective because we see this unit productivity.
Okay. That's very helpful. And then just to switch gears, inventory levels relative to sales, they widened a bit more than the past couple of quarters. Curious If that was intentional, maybe you look to bring in some items ahead of the tariffs or was it spillover from October? Maybe just frame out how you feel about currency Where you think you'll end the year on the inventory front?
From an
inventory standpoint, Mark's here, I'll let him speak as well. But We feel good about the overall quality of the inventory that we had and the growth in inventory is really by design given few factors.
Yes, we continue to expect to see inventory productivity here at the Home Depot, but customer service begins with in stock. So we really focus mostly on our in stock. We have implemented tiered replenishment strategies that really provide focused investments to drive sales and in stock where it matters the most. And the results we're seeing from that are really very good. We've actually Reduced the number of out of stocks per store by 24% in our top selling SKUs and Ann's folks bringing that to life with the new in processes.
We feel great about our shelf availability there. On top of that, we've improved our direct fulfillment center in stocks and service levels to the customers and setting new records in terms of in stock there. So pleased with our in stock levels and the investments we've made there.
The other Part of that is we pulled forward some merchandising resets and obviously we've invested in that as well. And then to your point, we did pull some planned purchase
And next we'll move to Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley.
Thanks. Good morning. If we add back some of the Impacts that you called out. You get to somewhere in the 5% to 6% range and I'm keeping inflation in there for now. I just want to know, is that number consistent with markets that have not been affected by any weather That year over year there's no benefit or tailwind or I'm sorry headwind.
And then anything changing with consumers and opening price points, Opting for something lower ticket, anything on the consumer side that shows any cracks?
Well, we always look at the spread of performance by our Team U. S. Region. And if you throw out the high and the low because those are hurricane related, one was negative and one was double digit positive. If you throw out the high and the low, the spread.
The narrowest has been in a long time, it was 6.8%.
And on the product purchase, we continue to see both pro and consumers trading up with all the innovation, the great product and brands we're offering in the stores. So that was extremely healthy, and that progression of comp as you go up price points. In fact, if you look at our increase in ticket of the 3.5%, the vast Majority of that is driven by mix and innovation.
Right. Okay. My follow-up, just two quick parts. The inventory, I guess the extra inventory. Can you tell us what categories you're investing deeper in?
And then just a point of clarification, This may have been mentioned in the prepared remarks. The Q4 EBIT looks a little bit below the street. Is that freight cost continuing or is there some shift expenses that go from Q3 into 4th.
Well, should I answer that first? Based on the guidance that we've Given you, the expense growth factor in Q4 should be lower than what we reported in Q3.
And
the gross margin expansion That's a bit because of the 53rd week. So maybe there's some issue with the 53 week modeling. I don't know, but We can certainly offline help you with your
models. Okay. And the inventory?
As far as inventory categories, we're not going to get specific about where we invested for.
No worries. Thank you.
And Matt McClintock with Barclays will have our next question.
Hi, yes. Good morning, everyone. I'd actually like to ask 2 quick questions. The first one is on car and van delivery, Are you seeing outsized gains in either pro or DIY relative to the other as you roll this out and build awareness?
Car and van, we're pleased with the rollout there. As Craig mentioned, we're up to 41% of the population with Car and van available. So very pleased with that rollout. The car as the trucks get bigger, the pros get more engaged. If you think about it, our big flatbed deliveries, that's very pro focused.
As you work your way down to car, that's more and more consumer focused. We're pleased to have that option out there for all our customers though. It's an important part of the portfolio of delivery options and we think those options are important across the range to meet our customers' needs in any given
occasion. Thanks. That's helpful. And then as a follow-up, just on home decor, I've seen the catalog this Is there any are you leaning into that category in any way different than what you did last year? Is there any build there or is it more of the same?
As we outlined in our investor conference at the end of last year, we said we were going to lean in To home decor and we've been doing that with the catalog and online. This is an online and direct play for us And we are seeing nice results. The customers engaging with The Home Depot In home related decor categories and we'll continue that through next year certainly.
Can I just on the back end of that, is there anything specific to the holiday that you think about with that category relative to the rest of the year?
No, I mean, we do our holiday decor set in the stores. Obviously, that continues to be an incredibly strong business. In fact, it's a success in that business that gave us confidence That we could move a little more decor oriented, not product we'd want to bring into the store, but Perfectly appropriate to engage the customer online.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
And we'll move on to Steve Forbes with Guggenheim Securities.
Good morning. I wanted to start with the expense growth factor, if you can. Can you help us break down the components in the Q3? I think accounting, strategic investments, business as usual. And then as part of that, maybe just update us with your thoughts On the appropriate business as usual run rate, given the year to date performance, is it still that 90% at 4.5% comp and 75% at 6%.
Looks like you're doing a little better than that year to date.
Well, I think what I'll do for you is break down the components for the full year because I've given you the dollars for the quarter and you can do the math. We're guiding an expense growth forecast of 131% for the full year. The breakdown of that is BAU is 42%, invest is 51% and the change in accounting is 38%. And then in terms of the longer term view of our guidance, nothing has materially changed.
And then just a quick follow-up. Given the build out plans within supply chain, maybe just update us with your views around hiring and retaining employees. Given the competitive workforce dynamic and obviously your initiatives on that front, Are you having trouble or are you still finding the availability of employees to meet that upcoming need, the future need?
Yes, we were able to hire over 80,000 associates for our spring selling season this year. Candidly, we had a little concern Whether or not it would be more challenging, but we really didn't find that to be the case. And Mark, I don't think you've seen anything different right now in supply chain.
No, it's been pretty much the same there. We've had no real issues there.
Thank you. You
bet.
And we'll move on to Seth Sigman with Credit Suisse.
Thanks. Hey, guys. A couple of follow-up questions. Just to go back to housing, as you mentioned, the consumer is obviously very healthy right now. On the housing front, there's a lot of talk about just the lack of urgency as it relates to turnover, not actual demand, but there's a lack of urgency.
And I realize turnover on its own is a small part of the business, but I'm curious from a behavior perspective, like are you seeing any signs that the consumer is maybe taking More of a wait and see approach as it relates to bigger projects, similar to how they're approaching purchasing a home.
I'm not seeing that. And Ted The strength in our big ticket categories, which grew more than 9% in the quarter. One hypothesis Is that with rising interest rates, consumers are incented to stay in their home and they have wealth in their home and their home is aging and Solar Spending Money on their home. The other thing I would like to say about the consumer, because we've done a lot of work in this regard and just thought we'd share it, There was some interest about what does the impact of tax reform really need on consumers' wallets. And I think we all know that tax reform is really good for consumers.
It's projected $1,100,000,000,000 will flow to consumer tax filers over the next 10 years. The way that's playing out in 2018 is will be realized when filers actually file their tax return next year. They'll claim credits and that's how they get their benefit. The only way they could receive that benefit today is if they have adjusted their withholding. So we looked at 300,000 Home Depot associates to see whether or not they had adjusted their withholding.
And only 3,000 of those associates had adjusted their withholding. So we believe that many consumers are going to have a nice tax surprise next year. Now, if you are a high earner in a high state and local tax state like California or New York or Connecticut. Well, that won't be the case. But high earners are actually those of $500,000 or more.
Those folks, well, they're going to have a bit of a tax bill and if they haven't prepared for it, it's going to be a negative surprise. But we went to our consumer insights team and said, hey, what's the average income of our customers? 97% of our customers' average income is less than 200 $50,000 So we think the health of the consumer continues into 2019.
Okay. Thanks, Carol, for that color. Appreciate it.
And we'll move on to Scot Ciccarelli with RBC.
Good morning, guys. Scot Ciccarelli. Good morning. So are there any markets or even product categories where you're starting to see some trade down activity? And related to that, how do you think that would play out in a rising price environment because of tariffs and maybe you're granted some of the price increase requests that you're getting from your vendors.
So I'll start with a comment and turn it to Ted. Even in the downturn of 2,008, which was The most difficult since the depression. Customers were willing to spend for new innovative product.
Yes. And as I said, Scott, we haven't seen it yet. That's something I'm looking at Very closely, we're looking at unit productivity by opening price points, good, better, best premium, making sure we're priced right at the opening price point level and making sure inventory levels are ready to go To see if we're going to see that dynamic that you just referenced and we have not seen it. Now whether that comes, We'll be ready for it. But to date, as Craig said, people are trading up for the new innovative product.
I mean, a classic example of that is you take a category like vinyl flooring. Vinyl flooring was almost on its deathbed. And then innovation came along and you now have vinyl plank flooring that is flying out the stores It's a great value to the customer. It's easy to use. It's simple for the pro to install.
And that's a classic example of why innovation drives sales.
And to be clear on the market front, like, you know, Parral, you already mentioned the LA market, for example. Any markets where you're Starting to see trade down activity, maybe particularly if you could focus on any kind of overheated housing markets or what you would view as where affordability isn't great?
Haven't seen anything like that at all.
Haven't seen it.
Okay. Thank you, guys.
And we'll move on to Elizabeth Suzuki with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Great, thanks. Can you give any detail on the performance in Canada on a constant currency basis. I think you guys mentioned that the comps were positive. Just curious how strong it was
there? Canada posted positive comps in local currency. Clearly, there are pressures in Canada From a housing standpoint, the government has made a conscious decision to slow down housing in Canada. And you see that in the numbers, but they delivered a great performance. We're seeing terrific online growth in Canada as the Canadian customer embraces e commerce as well.
Great. And was there any impact in the quarter from competitive pricing from other large players as they rationalize some inventory this quarter.
We've certainly seen much more promotional as folks have made decisions to close stores and liquidate inventory.
Okay. Would you say that had a material impact on your sales this quarter or was it not enough to call out?
We don't know how to measure that. We don't know how to measure that.
All right. Thanks.
Next, we'll move to Jonathan Matuszewski with Jefferies.
Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Just to start off, last quarter you mentioned some cross functional teams focused on improving the experience online for customers. So maybe just expand on that, what do you see as your competitive advantage today online relative to peers and with personalization a big push, have you seen a benefit in terms of average order values or transactions when the sites
Yes. Overall, absolutely, we're very pleased with the results from our initiatives as part of our investment strategy that we laid out. Supply chain is obviously a very big component of that, but leaning into our online investments, also a large piece of that. And we've started to do a lot of work with our category refreshes. So think of this as a virtual reset online, a lot of work on our search efficacy, A lot of work with the supply chain team as they've gotten sharper on delivery and our delivery windows.
We call it dynamic ETA. So when you are checking out, we would put before a broad brush 7 to 10 days for delivery. Now by zip code, we can put the day that you will be getting that product. All of these things have led to much better traffic. We had one of our strongest traffic quarters that we've seen in a number of years.
Our visits were our absolute increase in visits was our single largest growth in a quarter in visits And then it all resulted in the comp sales of 28% and that's also due to increased conversion. So we're getting people to engage into the site. The experience is getting to the right product. We're getting to The right close, all of this while more and more of the traffic moves to our mobile app in mobile devices and where we're seeing double digit increases in conversion rates and modest increase in average ticket. So Very pleased with all the initiatives.
And clearly, the customer is engaging obviously in the digital world, but 48 Connected experience going forward leveraging all the capabilities and assets of The Home Depot in both the digital and physical world.
Great. That's helpful. And then just a quick follow-up. Can you give an update on the store labor pilot? I believe you pointed to sales lift in 2Q from the pilot, maybe better conversion and whatnot.
So maybe just discuss Any potential uplift in sales from 3Q from the labor pilot and what's the trajectory for rolling that out ahead? Thanks.
It's easier for us to quantify the productivity that we enjoyed off of the new labor model, which Anne Marie has put into our stores. We saw 46 basis points of payroll leverage in the 3rd quarter and a large part because of that new labor model. And we've fully rolled out yes, we've fully rolled out across the company. So we'll get the full benefit in 2019.
Rochelle, we have time for one more question.
Thank you. Our final question today will come from Scott Mushkin with Wolfe Research.
Hey, guys. Thanks for fitting me in. So I just wanted to ask you, Carol, if you've looked at the business, obviously, we had a very sharp housing turnout in 2,008. But if we looked at the business, let's just assume we get a downturn because that's what almost every investor How do you think the business performs through an average downturn? Have you guys looked at that?
And then also, Would you guys ever consider using your balance sheet more aggressively as we got into a situation like that? So that's my first question.
So what we've done is look through the last recession, which was just a crazy recession and went back to 2000 timeframe. The country was in a fairly mild recession and our comps at that point were flat. So we modeled flat comps Say that's a reasonable downturn. I don't know if it's reasonable, but I think it's reasonable. Staying true to our investment plan because of the financial strength of the company.
We can stay true to our investment plan. If we take our operating margin down to 12%. I was like, did
you say that you kind of cut down a little bit?
I'm sorry. We take our operating margin down to a little over 12% in a flat comp environment, staying true to the investments. And we believe scale is a competitive advantage. We use it every day. As Chad mentioned, we got lots of people coming knocking on our doors asking for things and we're working through that with the power of the Home Depot.
And then as far as using the balance sheet a little bit more aggressively, if we got into that downturn situation?
Yes, that's our style. We have the opportunity to do that. Yes.
It's perfect. Thank you for taking my questions.
Well, thank you for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you on our 4th quarter earnings call in February.
That will conclude today's call. We thank you for your participation.