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Good morning, everyone. I'd like to thank you for joining us to discuss the press release we issued yesterday, which announced HPE's intent to acquire Juniper Networks. Today, I am joined by Antonio Neri, HPE's President and Chief Executive Officer, Jeremy Cox, HPE's SVP and Interim Chief Financial Officer, and Rami Rahim, Juniper's CEO. A press release with information on yesterday's announcement can be found on the websites of both companies at www.hpe.com and www.juniper.net. A replay of this conference call, along with the presentation, will be made available on the Investor Relations sections of our respective websites. What both companies will be discussing today include forward-looking statements and, as such, are subject to risks and uncertainties.
These risks and uncertainties include those risk factors discussed in the most recent reports on Forms 10-Q and 10-K filed by each company, as well as those discussed in the press release announcing this acquisition. These and other risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to differ from those contained in our forward-looking statements. Today's call will pertain strictly to HPE's agreements to acquire Juniper. None of the comments in this call should be viewed as an update on either HPE's current quarter or Juniper's current quarter. With that, let me turn it over to Antonio to discuss the transaction.
Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining today. Yesterday, we announced our intent to acquire Juniper Networks, the industry leader in AI-native networking, in HPE's, w hich is HPE's largest acquisition yet. The transaction is transformational for HPE and the industry more broadly, as it changes the dynamics of networking market and accelerates our hybrid cloud and AI strategy. Once the transaction is complete, HPE's portfolio will be even more diversified and more heavily weighted towards higher growth, higher margin businesses. To set the stage for why we are excited for this transaction, without question, the explosion of AI and cloud-driven business is accelerated demand for secure, unified technology solutions that connect, protect, and analyze companies' data from edge to cloud. These trends in AI specifically, will continue to be the most disruptive workloads for companies.
HPE has been aligning our portfolio to support customers and tap fully into these substantial IT trends with networking as a critical connectivity component. This transaction uniquely and dramatically supercharges our edge to cloud strategy, creating additional opportunities in the near term and in the future that benefit our customers, partners, and our shareholders. Before I share more about why this is such a transformational combination, I want to underline what makes Juniper so compelling to us. Juniper is an iconic, iconic, deeply respected player in the technology landscape and a recognized leader in AI-native networks, with tremendous innovation momentum. Through its suite of cloud-delivered networking solutions, software, and services, including the Mist AI and cloud platform, Juniper helps organizations securely and efficiently access the mission-critical cloud infrastructure that serves as the foundation of digital and AI strategies.
Combining the complementary portfolios of HPE and Juniper will allow us to provide customers of all sizes a truly comprehensive, secure, AI-native, and cloud-native portfolio that enables the critical networking architecture necessary to manage and simplify customers' expanding and increasingly complex connectivity needs. In short, the transaction enhances secure, unified cloud and AI-native networking to drive innovation across edge to cloud. At the macro level, the strategic transaction will transform HPE. Together, HPE and Juniper will be the catalyst to ignite far more investment, innovation, and advancement in this incredibly important set of capabilities. For HPE, this is exciting for a number of reasons. It is a major leap forward in our AI and hybrid cloud strategy, accelerating our technological innovation. It creates a new networking leader with a comprehensive portfolio from edge to cloud, and is expected to double the size of our networking business.
It substantially increases our networking scope and expands our total addressable market, and it is financially compelling. We will be able to offer better AI-driven customer solutions and next-generation digital experiences, ultimately supercharging our ability to lead in an AI-native environment based on a foundational cloud-native architecture, while bringing increased competition to the networking space. Combining with Juniper also dramatically transforms our reach. We will be able to expand our total addressable market by increasing the scope of our networking business. It enable us to reach adjacent large markets, including data center networking, firewalls, and routers with additional AI-driven solutions. For Juniper, it grows their footprint in data centers and cloud providers. We also project the opportunity for significant expansion in existing segments in enterprise service provider solutions and provides access to newer segments in edge to cloud, including distributed compute, end-to-end networking, lifecycle management, and automation, and AI.
These new opportunities will result in our edge and networking total addressable market expanding by approximately 30% to $118 billion. Before I pass it over to Rami, which is here with me today, I would like to quickly stress that it also makes strategic sense, as it aligns two complementary businesses with similar cultures. It is a natural fit. HPE and Juniper have a similar commitment, commitment to innovation and relentless focus on our customers, and Juniper's got an incredible strong team, and we are looking forward to bringing our two companies together. Jeremy Cox will talk more about the financial benefits later in the presentation, but for now, I will give the floor to Rami Rahim, CEO of Juniper. Rami, thank you for joining us today.
I'm looking forward to partnering, innovating, and winning with you and the rest of the Juniper team.
Thank you, Antonio. I'm very excited to be here today with Antonio and his team, announcing this combination. As Antonio has highlighted, our companies are a terrific fit, and together, we will be optimally positioned to address the most complex demands in our industry. The network has become not a nice-to-have, but an absolute must-have for any company that's going through any form of digital transformation. More than that, it must be a network that provides an assured and a secured experience to users. To meet this demand, at Juniper, we have been on a journey to transform the future of networking to experience-first networking. Practically speaking, that means providing superior end user and operator experiences, experiences leveraging technology that is cloud delivered, AI powered, with security across campus and branch, data center, and wide area use cases. Juniper has changed the game with artificial intelligence.
We are defeating complexity, simplifying the lives of network operators, and making it so that those that are using the network to live, work, and play are actually trusting the network for their most important applications, irrespective of where they are. The results of this vision have enabled us to deliver healthy revenue growth over the last three years. This is particularly true within the enterprise vertical, where our Mist device business, which consists of cloud-connected solutions powered by Mist AI, has seen exceptional growth, with our annualized order run rate surpassing $1 billion during the Q3 2023 timeframe, less than four years after passing the $100 million run rate for the first time. The Juniper Mist platform has also driven strong ARR growth due to the radical recognition of the platform's cloud-based software model.
Not to be overlooked, we've also established exceptional franchises with many of the world's largest cloud and service provider customers, based on the power of our Junos operating system and the differentiation embedded within our custom silicon. We believe these capabilities will not only position us to maintain our existing footprints with our cloud and service provider customers, but also to capitalize on the rapidly emerging AI cluster switching opportunities and the incremental traffic growth that will emerge from the adoption of new AI applications. This agreement with HPE is a true validation of our success in achieving our vision and will allow both companies to continue delivering truly value-enhancing solutions for our customers and partners. We expect to have expanded edge, data center, and wide area networking products and resources to drive even more innovation across all customer segments, including enterprise, cloud, and service providers.
This will be an important catalyst to drive innovation across the entire networking stack, including campus, branch, data center, and wide area networking. We will also deliver an industry-leading combination of comprehensive and compelling end-to-end solutions built on the foundation of cloud, high performance, and experience first. From a shareholder's perspective, we believe this transaction is a tremendous outcome, as we are maximizing the value of their shares. Juniper shareholders will receive significant and certain value in the form of a 32% premium to the unaffected closing price of Juniper's common stock on January 8th, 2024, the last full trading day prior to media reports regarding a possible transaction. This is great recognition of what we have built at Juniper. Now, before I pass it back to Antonio, I want to thank the entire Juniper team for their continued innovation leadership.
Since joining Juniper when it was just a start-up in 1997, what has been clear is that our people are our greatest asset. The reason we can even reach this milestone today is because of our employees' collective talent and tireless effort to stay ahead of trends and technology and build products that instill confidence and drive loyalty. I'm excited to lead the combined HPE networking business, and I'm confident that we will make our combined organization a premier destination for secure AI-native networking from edge to cloud. I look forward to working with HPE to ensure success as a leader in our industry. It's a process that we've each undertaken successfully in the past, and we believe it will be seamless. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Antonio.
Yeah. Thanks, Rami. Building on what we already share, this transaction accelerates innovation across our entire networking stack. Networking will become the new core business for Hewlett Packard Enterprise and the architectural foundation for our hybrid cloud and AI solutions delivered through our HPE GreenLake hybrid cloud platform. Together, we will offer secure AI-native, end-to-end solutions that are built on the foundation of cloud, high performance, and experience first. We will also have the ability to collect, analyze, and act on aggregated telemetry across our broader install base. All of this will drive even better end user experiences and streamline network operations for enterprise customers. And with that, I will ask Jeremy Cox to discuss our pro forma financials and the transaction structure. So over to you, Jeremy.
Thanks, Antonio. In terms of what the combined company will look like, we're projecting an extremely attractive pro forma financial profile. The transaction is expected to be accretive to non-GAAP EPS and free cash flow in year one, post-close. We see attractive top and bottom line growth opportunities immediately and in the long term. This enhanced financial profile will enable us to further fund investments in R&D spend in high growth areas, such as AI and cloud, creating a flywheel effect that will fuel future innovation. With Juniper, our portfolio will be weighted toward higher growth, higher margin solutions with large free cash flow potential. Not only does it launch HPE into adjacent markets, but it increases the competitiveness of HPE GreenLake, too.
On a pro forma basis, the combined networking segment will increase from approximately 18% of total HPE pro forma revenue to approximately 31% and 56% of operating income on a pro forma FY 2023 basis. It'll also increase our pro forma cash flow generation. All of this will position us to enhance value for our shareholders. As Antonio said, it ultimately supercharges our ability to lead in an AI-native environment based on a foundational cloud-native architecture. In terms of the structure of the transaction, as noted in our press release, we intend to acquire Juniper for $40 per share in cash, representing an equity value of $13.6 billion.
We expect to fund the transaction through cash on our balance sheet with fully committed financing, broken down as follows: a $11 billion 364-day senior unsecured delayed draw term loan facility, and a $3 billion three-year senior unsecured delayed draw term loan facility from a consortium of banks. The 364-day facility is expected to be taken out with a combination of new senior notes, balance sheet cash, and mandatory convertible preferred securities before the transaction closes. The combination is expected, t his combination is expected to achieve operating efficiencies. We have clear line of sight into operating efficiencies and run rate annual cost synergies of $450 million within 36 months post-close.
The important thing here is this is a growth story, but of course, we see areas where we can be more efficient together than we can be as separate entities. We anticipate to improve gross and operating margins, even pre-synergies, as well as an acceleration of long-term revenue growth. We remain committed to maintaining an investment-grade credit rating and strong growth in free cash flow. Along with maintenance of capital allocation policy, policies, we expect we will have sufficient room to reduce leverage to approximately 2x in two years post-close. Following the close of the transaction, we'll continue our innovation and go-to-market investments in our networking business, one of our major growth engines. I'd also like to stress that we intend to maintain our current share buyback program and dividend policy.
We currently expect to close in late calendar year 2024 or early calendar year 2025, subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals and other customary closing conditions, including approval by Juniper shareholders. And with that, let me ask the operator to open up Q&A.
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Today's first question comes from Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Yes, thank you so much. I was wondering, maybe, Antonio, if you could address, how much revenue overlap would you say there is between the companies, and how are you thinking about handling the portfolio overlap where there is? Would you consider selling any of the assets? And on the revenue synergy front, it doesn't seem like you really, I mean, you addressed the incremental TAM, but could you be maybe a little bit more specific around what the potential for revenue synergies might be, over the next few years? Thank you.
Thanks, Wamsi. I also will ask Rami to comment. The reality is that we both participate in the campus and branch, but we address different verticals of the market with different solutions. And the rest of the networking market, we have pretty much no overlap at all because HPE has not been in the cloud large infrastructure networking or obviously neither in the service provider space. So we believe this combination will allow us to capture more market share, even in the markets we already participate, because the capabilities are highly complementary. As we discussed earlier, obviously, HPE, through the work my team and I have done with Aruba Networking, we have drove significant scale.
But we participate in unique verticals, and with the AI-driven approach that Rami has been driving for the last few years, he address all the needs in different verticals of the market. And that's the beauty about this, because customers have the choice and the flexibility, and over time, with Rami now leading the combined business, we will drive meaningful and thoughtful integration of technologies, which will allow us to differentiate even further from some of the other players in the market. So we believe this combination is incredibly powerful, even in the segment where we are, you know, kind of playing together.
Now, on the rest of the segment, there is even more synergies, because remember, when I think about the next generation of data center infrastructure and driven by the AI explosion we see today, the combination of Juniper and HPE, both Aruba Networking and our AI-native networking stack, which you're familiar with, HPE Slingshot, is an amazing combination. No one has that combination to drive intra-cloud native and AI-native connectivity, and then deep in both cloud native and both AI native. And that, to me, is a massive opportunity. Now, this deal, again, is accretive post year one, just on the cost side. And then, from a revenue perspective, because we are increasing the TAM by 30%, we just wanted to be just helpful, just to explain the street, that that will be coming on top of it, of just the cost synergies.
That TAM expansion is approximately $35 billion. The beauty about that one is that we now will participate in every segment of the networking market. So, very, very excited. For HPE shareholders, this doubles the contribution of the networking business. As a pro forma of the company, as Jeremy just described, now, the size of the networking business is equal, and it will be greater going forward than the compute business. But from a profit profile, this is gonna be 56% on day one, when we close the transaction. It's coming all from the networking business, which I call it the new core of the Hewlett Packard Enterprise Company.
And the vision, very simply, is that networking is the core of what we do, because you need the connectivity in order to connect the data to drive the AI, you know, solutions that you need to take advantage of this disruption. So that's, in many ways, is a new company. That's how what I want you to think about it. So Rami, anything on the product side and the overlap and how we think about that, that engagement going forward?
I think, Antonio, you covered it very well. I'll just underscore a couple of things. I'm not concerned about product overlap. I believe that together, we will have a comprehensive set of architectural approaches that will satisfy any and all of our customers', you know, networking requirements. In time, we can think about a thoughtful, gradual integration of the capabilities that we both bring to the table, and the opportunities for cross-sell and upsell in each of our accounts across industries, geographically, is absolutely tremendous, and the thing that I am most excited about, with our true north being AI-native networking. That's what's gonna drive the innovation, that's what, what's gonna drive the strategy going forward.
I want to say one more comment, because obviously, you have been following this segment for quite a while. Now, HPE with Juniper combined, has every aspect of the stack, meaning the entire IP stack. We have ASICs, we have software, we have a massive platform with HPE GreenLake. We have services. We have pretty much everything we need to be a force of nature in a modern approach driven by this AI inflection point.
Next question.
Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Ng with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. Thank you very much for the question, and congratulations on the deal. Just to follow up on Wamsi's question, I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the considerations of managing those two wireless LAN portfolios in Aruba and Mist. You know, what does that difference in customer segmentation look like? Is it more mid-market versus high-end? And then, you know, are there any thoughts in terms of convergence of teams or perhaps even on the technology side, ASICs? And then, you know, secondly, I just wanted to ask about the AI networking comment.
You know, could you maybe just expand a little bit about some of the synergies in combining a compute and storage portfolio with a, you know, data center switching portfolio as you think about AI clusters? Thank you.
I will start, and then I will let obviously Rami comment on this. On the latter point, this is an exciting combination, because now Hewlett Packard Enterprise, the new company, as you call it, as I called it early on, will have the entire stack, from compute to storage to the networking fabric, to deliver the best private cloud solution, whether it's cloud-native or AI-native, going forward. And all will be connected and delivered to the same platform called HPE GreenLake, which obviously we have been driving for a number of years. So that's an exciting moment, because no one has that level of depth in terms of IP and capabilities.
On the Juniper, Mist, and Aruba kind of wireless, remember that you have an access layer, which HPE has been working for a number of years, and there we have the entire stack, from silicon to software and operating system, and obviously, the ability to deliver this in a cloud-native approach. And then you have the wireless piece, obviously, which is private radio access network. But ultimately, Aruba brings an enormous scale in a workflow-oriented approach to deliver this experience for unique verticals. Think about hospitality, think about traditional enterprise. Those are the things we have been addressing, and our market coverage is more mid-market, above the mid-market, all the way to the very, very large enterprise. And Juniper comes from a different perspective, with an AI-driven approach, an experience-driven approach in different verticals.
And now this combination could be incredibly powerful because we can address all verticals with a combination of these amazing capabilities. Maybe over to you, Rami.
I'd be happy to add. You know, again, I'm not worried about this overlap because the architectural approaches that both Aruba and Juniper bring to our customers are different today, and we will be more able to comprehensively cover all our customers' use cases as a single company. But beyond that, I know it's a little too early to go into specifics of how the portfolios might come together. But to me, AI operations, Mist-driven AI operations across a broader worldwide platform, where you're learning from more data, more customer use cases, and translating that knowledge into value-enhancing capabilities for our customers, is what this is all about. It's incredibly powerful, super exciting to me, and honestly, just incredibly compelling as the sort of the as a value proposition of this combination. And on the data center side, it's just a no-brainer.
I mean, the combination of compute, storage, networking, the innovation that we can drive in a bigger silicon team, a bigger software team, more automation capabilities, the GreenLake capabilities, is gonna be incredibly compelling for our customers. And the time is now, because this is when everybody is building AI clusters, AI data centers. The timing couldn't be better.
Yeah. And I will also add that with this combination, the gross margin profile of both companies gets enhanced. So let's be clear about that, because we bring more software and an AI-driven approach from the Juniper Mist kind of work they have been doing. And we bring also, combined, a much larger ASIC team. We basically will own pretty much all the ASICs you need, from campus and branch to data center to WAN and the like. So this is a true end-to-end combination of the stack from ASIC all the way to the software layers.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Amit Daryanani with Evercore. Please go ahead.
Yep, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. You know, I, I guess I was hoping, Antonio, you could talk a little bit about, you know, Juniper has a very sizable presence in the telco service provider market. You know, how do you think about that business within HPE overall and sort of the strategic fit of that asset? I'd love to just sort of understand that. And then, Rami, you know, for you, you, you touched on Mist a little bit when you were talking. Can you just reflect back and talk about what were the bottlenecks that you had with Mist, despite the growth you were seeing? And, and does HPE solve or alleviate any of those bottlenecks for you? Thank you.
Yeah, thank you for the question. Actually, I'm super excited about the telco opportunity. I think, when you look at, the customer segmentation, you may need to look at different lenses, right? You traditionally have, you know, what I call the Global 2000, then you go to large enterprise, commercial, mid-market, and SMB. But if when you look at from a more vertical perspective, the CME or the communication, media, and entertainment, which includes telco, is actually one of the top two segments Hewlett Packard Enterprise today participates. Our two largest segments, where HPE generates a lot of revenue, is the telco segment and the FSI, the financial services. And there, obviously, we have been very compute-centric with, obviously, storage, and now more and more, obviously, with Aruba, because we bring the edge through the campus and branch to wireless.
And in the future, as I said many times, we're going to also add the private 5G capabilities, and so forth. Now, obviously, Juniper has a long history in the service provider segment and in the telco segment, in particular. And HPE has been working over the last few years on disrupting technologies in term of the Open RAN, the virtualization of the network. And I'm excited to see what we can do together with Rami, because now the two portfolio coming together, and HPE also bring additional software into the that segment of the market. So in many ways, it is slightly a reverse integration into Rami's business by bringing the rest of the portfolio that today he didn't have, except the large infrastructure across core, edge, and metro. So go ahead, Rami.
Yeah. Thanks, Antonio, and thanks for the question, Amit. On the telco side, I'm glad you asked, because honestly, I think a lot of people will see this as a clear bet and a compelling bet on the enterprise, but it's not just the enterprise. I think this is gonna drive greater relevance, more solution capabilities, more portfolio pieces for service providers and cloud providers. Look, I mean, everybody's building data centers, not just enterprises. Cloud providers are building data centers, service providers are building data centers, and if we have more of the capabilities to enable these modern, next-generation data centers with every component soup to nuts, that's great news for all of our customers. And then the second question you asked, Amit, about Mist. The bottlenecks really came down to having the complete portfolio that includes security, for example. The combination addresses that gap overnight.
The platform velocity, our ability to develop the silicon and software capabilities with speed to satisfy every single use case, this combination addresses that. And last but not least, is go-to-market scale. The ability to get, our products into more customers worldwide, this is gonna overnight drive vastly more go-to-market scale, marketing capabilities, brand awareness, et cetera. So across the board, I think this is gonna supercharge the Mist AI-driven success that we've seen.
I mean, the other thing, I think from the go-to-market perspective is that, remember that the composition of our revenue in, in HPE, is approximately more than 60% comes from outside the North America market. And that's a massive opportunity for Rami and team, because I won't say it's the opposite, but clearly, we are much weighted, strongly in the North American market than, you know, Europe or Asia. But now we get access to that massive install base and honestly, 200,000 partners, thousands and thousands of sellers. We're going to have a very, very specialized sales force in networking, every aspect of what you need. So I'm super excited about this because they have amazing IP with our scale, and then also driving it through a consumption model. It will drive scale for both companies.
Thank you. Our next question today comes from Toni Sacconaghi with Bernstein. Please go ahead.
Yes, thank you. This is obviously a really significant deal for HPE, Antonio, almost like a bet the ranch in terms of magnitude. I'm just wondering if the board considered as an alternative, doing a levered recap with a similar amount of debt take on and repurchasing shares, and whether that was formally voted on. My sense is that this deal was kind of a surprise for most HPE shareholders, and they would have preferred more capital return rather than an ambitious acquisition. Could you first address what alternatives to this deal were formally reviewed by the board? And then secondly, regarding the deal, could you maybe give us some sense of where you think growth rate might be? You talked about this really being a growth-oriented deal.
I think consensus for Juniper plus HPE's networking business for the coming fiscal year is about zero. What do you think the growth rate for the combined entity over the next three to five years is? And then finally, will the deal require China approval for Juniper and HPE's revenues above China threshold? Thank you.
Thank you, Toni. Listen, the board and I, fiduciary duty is to look at all strategic options. We have had an intense process that we have been driving for a number of years, and I have to say, we have looked at every aspect of what is the best return for our shareholders. That's our fiduciary duty, and we believe the use of the cash as we do it through this transaction, is a better return on the long term for our shareholders. As you know, and we covered this at the Securities Analyst Meeting in October, we have returned approximately $11 billion over the last five years to shareholders. And we have expanded our gross margin and earnings per share. And the reality is, we have not gotten the credit that we deserve for that work.
But at the same time, we believe we have the right strategy with the right team to go execute a transformative deal, which I agree with you, Toni. Obviously, this is a large transaction to really position us for the next generation of solutions that customers have demanded. And on a long term, this is a very accretive deal for our shareholders. It changes the company completely. And the fact of the matter is that post year one, this is going to be accretive just on the cost basis. And remember, the premium we are paying here is below the capitalized value of synergies. It's just remarkable. You know, if I look back at what we have been doing, we have been investing in networking. I did the Aruba acquisition in 2015. Look at the progress we made there.
We have established our presence in the cloud market through HPE GreenLake, 29,000 customers. We have a unique opportunity in AI because we are the supercomputer market leader with a networking business that's a differentiator. This combination for our shareholders will change dramatically the composition of cash flow, earnings per share, and the growth is on top of it. So we ask the question of growth. We're going to grow above market, no question about it, because these capabilities are unique. No one has the footprint that we would have. So from a shareholder perspective, when you think about three, four, five years out, this is an amazing deal, honestly. Now we look at all the options with the board, Toni, always. They vote unanimously.
The board unanimously voted for this deal because ultimately, we have to look at, for other stakeholders, shareholders interest, number one, and we believe this is the best return of cash for them, for long term. Number two is our customers and our relevance in the market. And with our portfolio and the progress we've made, this was the best choice, no question. And trust me, we have done all the math in the world, and we believe this is the best outcome.
Thank you. Our next question today comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Great. Great, thank you for taking the question. Appreciate you guys doing the call. So a couple of things I wanted to kind of unpack a little bit. It sounds like the plan is, at least for the beginning, to maintain both the Aruba and Mist portfolios. And I want to confirm that you'll maintain the branding of both and not shift to one or the other. I think that's what you've implied, but want to check on that. And then in terms of the cost synergies, I'm imagining that these are more sales, marketing, and overhead as opposed to R&D. But if you could give us some insight as to where you think you're going to derive the roughly $450 million of cost synergies from.
And then just one last one. In terms of the regulatory hurdles, what do you consider the biggest hurdles? Is it a China approval or is it antitrust? If you could just help us understand the hurdles you've got to overcome. Thank you.
Thank you, Simon. So a lot there to cover. I will say on the synergy front, first of all, we are very confident in our ability to deliver $450 million in OpEx synergy. The vast majority is not even go-to-market or R&D. It's the rest, what you call G&A, and that's why this, this, this transaction is accretive post year one close. And so we know how to do that. We have done it multiple times. And so as a team, we believe that's totally doable. And then, as Rami says, we're going to drive a thoughtful integration of the roadmaps where all capabilities will coexist. This is the interesting part. You should not think I just take that and, and get rid of the other one.
If you take, for example, the switching portfolio that we have in campus and branch, we have the entire stack with HPE because we built the ASICs and the operating systems and the like. If you look at what Rami has done in data centers, you know, it's kind of a little bit of reverse in many ways. And from the brand perspective, the brands will coexist because ultimately there is a brand, the company is called Hewlett Packard Enterprise, okay? And then the brand of Aruba Networking in HPE will coexist for different types of solutions based on the portfolio coverage that we will have underneath. And that's the beauty, because both brands have a tremendous reputation. Both brands address different needs in the market, and ultimately, the combination will make us unique and very special.
From a regulatory approval, we don't believe there will be an issue either with antitrust or the regulatory approval. From a China standpoint, there is a chance, actually, we will not have to file for the approval, but we'll see, depending on the thresholds. Remember that our presence in China is super small because of the setup we have done, with the JV, as you recall, with the H3C. So fundamentally, there, we don't believe is a challenge, and from a Juniper perspective, it's a smaller amount of business.
But we believe we, b oth companies believe that the regulatory approval antitrust will not be at issue, and hence why we believe we can close this transaction at the end of calendar 2024 or at the beginning, early part, let's say, of 2025. You want to make any comments, Rami, about product, you know, branding and so forth?
Well, I think you covered it well, Antonio. I would just add that this is not the first acquisition that HPE or Juniper have done and done so successfully. What HPE has done with Aruba is incredibly impressive, and I believe that we can take the experience that we have learned over the years to thoughtfully and seamlessly integrate the portfolios in a way that drives compelling value to our customers. It's absolutely doable, and that would be what we would set out to do.
Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Great, thanks. Since it sounds like roadmaps, at least for now, are kind of staying the same between HPE and Juniper, I just wanted to get a sense of kind of what are the early investment priorities. You know, is it kind of expanding sales and marketing for Juniper? Is it just, is it trying to bring HPE into some of the service provider and cloud space? Like, just what are kind of the early portfolios before you think about kind of combining or at least combining roadmaps at some point?
I'm happy to start addressing that question. I think that the easiest thing to do that can be done day one are cross-sell and upsell opportunities, where HPE will have strengths in certain verticals and certain customer segments, certain geographies, and Juniper will have strengths in others. So the opportunity to cross-sell and upsell, for example, an AI-driven enterprise solution into HPE security or going from campus and branch into the data center, there are plenty of opportunities worldwide. Over time, we can look on supercharging the revenue synergies by essentially combining the strengths of the portfolios on both sides into end-to-end solutions. For example, for soup to nuts AI data center clusters that include everything from storage, compute, networking, the automation capabilities, or full stack client to cloud with security, cloud delivered through AI-driven, AI-native technologies.
You know, that can happen gradually, thoughtfully, and seamlessly for our customers in time.
Yeah. And obviously, we have to go through the closing process. But just to give a sense, you know, the combined networking business will have thousands of sellers, thousands of pre-sales engineers, and thousands of R&D engineers. To me, that's an immense capability that we can go address in a priority fashion, where are the opportunities to capture more share at a higher gross margin? But the capabilities are all there, which is with Rami, we're gonna pick what is priority one, two, and three based on what we see in the market. And then the go-to-market approach of cross-sell and up-sell is priority number one from day one.
Because as I said earlier, right, our exposure to outside North America will be an immediate footprint for Juniper Networks, and then the extension into compute and storage and GreenLake is another, synergy opportunity that we'll see. So, we're obviously gonna continue to share the progress there as we, we close the transaction and obviously we do the integration process.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Sidney Ho with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Hi. Great, thanks, and congrats on the deal. Not sure if you have a chance to talk to your customers yet after the announcement, but curious, what are the initial feedback you're getting for maybe for both customers that overlap and don't overlap? And separately, can you talk about, maybe this is for Antonio, can you talk about how Juniper will fit into your GreenLake portfolio? It looks like Juniper has already had a pretty strong service business. Thanks.
No, thank you. Well, it's very early. Obviously, we announced the deal last night. I don't remember the time. I think it was like 6:00 Eastern Time or 5:55. But I had a couple of calls with a couple of customers who actually were in the building. You know, one of them was face-to-face, the other was on the phone. They're super excited because they really see us as a visionary vendor that is extending, supercharging that vision with these additional capabilities. And so now they see us as a complete solution provider with a new core business, which is the networking business, and there we bring all the aspects of the IT solutions that they need. So obviously, they want to know more details about it, but the first reaction was super, super positive.
One of them actually was not a customer, was a partner, which was in the building, and he already sells today, Juniper and HPE. And he said, "Boy, now you guys are gonna make it much easier for me to go sell integrated solutions." So there is a lot of opportunities here. So that's what I will say, at this point in time, it's positive. And our goal with Rami in the next couple of days, that's why I'm here in the Bay Area, is to reach out to customers and other employees. Obviously, we're gonna start this afternoon. So, Rami, you want to add anything on the customer side?
Very similar feedback for me. I know it's still early days, but I did have the opportunity to talk to a few of our key customers that I would say are very excited about the potential of the opportunity, the potential of the combination. I believe customers are increasingly looking for, you know, a one-stop shop, a technology provider that can provide end-to-end solutions and to provide it with simplicity and ease. And this is the power of this combination. Our ability to really deliver soup to nut solutions that solve our customers' most compelling problems today is the possibility here. And so far, I'd say that everybody's getting it.
Yeah. The second part of the question was about HPE GreenLake. I mean, we have built an amazing platform. We already have 20,000, 29,000 customers. We manage approximately four million devices and systems. Through that platform, we also manage more than 2 EB of data. So when we think about the opportunity to integrate Juniper into HPE GreenLake, it's very obvious, right? So obviously, the Mist AI-driven solution with our Aruba Central, which is a core cloud platform that we manage our networking business, is step one. It's very, very clear, and that gives Mist access to a massive scale. Massive scale. Because today, Aruba approximately runs between six and eight times more devices through the cloud than Juniper does. So that scale will be immediate, day one.
And then there is the data center networking, which obviously, Juniper has a platform there, and we will, over time, work with Rami to integrate as well, into that cloud-native control plane. And then think about the other piece of this, where we are building in AI, which also will allow customers to manage their cloud environment and AI environment through the same platform. That's something that, Rami and Fidelma Russo, our Head of Hybrid Cloud and, CTO, will work together as well. But ultimately, to Rami's point, they will get a secure, unified, cloud-native and AI-native experience through one platform called HPE GreenLake. And for Juniper, doing that in a subscription and consumption model is a huge benefit because that's not easy to do. Absolutely not easy to do.
HPE has done what I consider a remarkable job building that capability, the ability to stand up and, you know, data centers, provision, lifecycle manage every aspect of the infrastructure, drive the automation and AI operations, and then working with our channel partners, which is the transactional side. And those transactions are not easy to manage. Juniper now will get the benefit of running the entire business through that platform, which we already built.
Okay. Drew, why don't we make this the last question?
Absolutely. Today's final question comes from David Vogt with UBS. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks, guys, for squeezing me in. So maybe one for Rami and one for Antonio. Rami, maybe just on the SP integration within the broader Aruba portfolio, it's still a little bit unclear to me, and I know you addressed a little bit of it earlier, you know, why the portfolio actually can grow within the broader Aruba portfolio, when it's really struggled to grow within sort of Juniper the last couple of years, and kind of the longer term expectations is for that market to be kind of flat. And then for Antonio, you know, when I kind of think about the kind of the combined company and the growth trajectory of the business that you kind of alluded to, that you're going to take share in networking, maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm trying to do the math really quickly.
To kind of get the two turns of leverage, two years post-close, would imply that the core business pro forma grows, you know, EBITDA or EBIT, however you want to look at it, kind of 2%, 3%, maybe 4% a year for the next couple of years. I mean, is that the kind of growth rate that you're thinking about the pro forma business has, and that includes, you know, an assumption of synergy filtering into the numbers? Thanks.
Maybe I'll start on the back. I mean, listen, I think that should tell you there is a significant upside with the deal, okay? And that should give comfort to shareholders, 'cause we are not putting on the table something that's hard to achieve. In fact, in my mind, it is a very clear line of sight to go achieve those synergies and more. And fundamentally, the reason why we believe that is because we will have the capability, the go-to-market to do it. And so all the revenue gross margin expansion will come after the consolidation, and honestly, on the cost basis that we're going to take out of this combination. And that's why this is for shareholders, a no-brainer.
The better use of cash, which ultimately will drive higher value over a longer period of time. So that's why, yeah, maybe you do the math that way, but ultimately, it's not, you know, much more difficult than other transactions, that you can do.
I'll just add that, you know, that this combination obviously doesn't change the market dynamics for service providers. Most of our growth over the last few years at Juniper has been in the enterprise segment for a reason. This is the part of the market that's growing. This is where there is an opportunity to take significant share. That being said, for the service provider space, I do believe this combination gives us the ability to achieve just greater relevance by selling more portfolio pieces. So in addition to where we are already very strong, core networks, edge networks, Metro Ethernet network, we can now also have relevance to hybrid cloud capabilities, distributed servers and things of that nature, that I think can just drive more revenue streams for us in the SP segment.
Well, thank you, Rami, and thank you all for joining early in the morning. We are here in the Bay Area. It's very early, but I appreciate you making the time to ask the questions. Obviously, we will continue to engage with you over the next few days and months, as we progress with the closing of the transaction. But just to wrap up, as you can see, we are very excited about the opportunity ahead. You can see that Rami and I have the same vision, the same enthusiasm, and we see the opportunity to change the networking market. Fundamentally, this combination changes the networking market. I will say HPE has been on the forefront of the enterprise transition to solutions that are edge-centric, cloud-enabled and data-driven. We call some of these trends in 2018. We made investments.
We have delivered great results at the edge. We are now growing the cloud aspects of it, and the AI is a massive opportunity. It's a massive inflection point that the networking component of that will be the core. And our acquisition of Juniper will create a new networking leader with a very comprehensive portfolio that present customers and partners with a completely new choice to drive business value. Not only is financially compelling for shareholders, but it really accelerates HPE's hybrid cloud and AI strategy and the portfolio mix toward the higher margin and higher growth solutions, and also substantially increases our networking scale and addressable market. Basically, the $180 million market slide, we can now address this completely. And brings together what I believe, two companies with shared cultures and innovation and relentless focus on our customers.
Rami and I see it the same way. We are very customer-centric in everything we do. So I'm really confident that together we'll be well positioned to serve our customers with their most challenging needs and deliver more innovative solutions and better experience for them and, and for our shareholders, which is to create long-term, sustainable, profitable growth. And that profitable growth will drive higher cash flow, and you will be able to do the analysis. And that cash flow means more over time, direct return to capital to shareholders. That's the thesis here, makes us more relevant, and more relevant, not just for customers, but for shareholders, so they understand how this profile will allow them to continue to grow with us. So with that, thank you very much for your time today, and we look forward to continue our engagement with you.
Have a good day.
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