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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Jan 30, 2019

Operator

Welcome to the IDEX Corporation fourth quarter 2018 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Bill Grogan. Thank you. You may begin.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Thank you, Matt. Good morning, everyone. This is Bill Grogan, Chief Financial Officer for IDEX Corporation. I am stepping in for Mike Yates this morning, will cover the introduction. Mike unfortunately lost power overnight due to the polar vortex hitting Chicago, is anxiously awaiting power to get restored to his house. We are hoping to get back power soon, Mike. Let me start by saying thank you for joining us for a discussion of the fourth quarter and full year 2018 financial highlights. Last night, we issued a press release outlining our company's financial and operating performance for the three months and year ending December 31st 2018. The press release, along with the presentation slides to be used during today's webcast, can be accessed on our company's website at idexcorp.com. Joining me today is Andy Silvernail, our Chairman and CEO. The format for our call today is as follows.

We will begin with Andy providing an overview and update on market conditions, geographies, and our capital deployment strategies. I will then discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2018 financial results and walk you through the operating performance within each of our segments. Andy will wrap up with our outlook for the first quarter and full year 2019. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. If you should need to exit the call for any reason, you may access a complete replay beginning approximately two hours after the call concludes by dialing the toll-free number 877-660-6853 and entering conference ID 13684161, or simply log on to our company homepage for the webcast replay. Before we begin, a brief reminder.

This call may contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to the safe harbor language in last night's press release and at IDEX filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, I will now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Andy Silvernail.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thanks, Bill, good morning, everybody. I appreciate you joining us here to discuss the fourth quarter of last year and also the full year operating results from 2018. I'm going to start with some highlights from 2018 and then move to the outlook for 2019. 2018 was another record year for IDEX. We hit all-time highs on all of our key metrics, and we continue to outperform the market. The overall macroeconomy was strong, and our teams capitalized when we leveraged our target organic growth initiatives to deliver results above and beyond the underlying market support. We continued to invest back in our businesses with record levels of CapEx and engineering investment in 2018. Those investments helped drive our terrific top-line performance as well as margin performance. We saw over 100 basis points improvement in op margin in all three segments.

Our balance sheet is in great position, and we have plenty of capacity to deploy capital across our framework and drive long-term value for shareholders. Looking ahead to 2019, we're monitoring the geopolitical and global economic environment and its volatility. We're confident in our long-term strategic objective to grow faster than the underlying market. We're able to do so as a result of our leading positions and diversified product portfolio, and we look forward to another solid year in 2019. Let me take a moment to talk about what we're seeing in the markets that we serve and the regions we do businesses in. In the industrial market, the conditions remain favorable, and we see this in both FMT and in HST. Day rates for our book and ship businesses continue at high levels, project activity is decent, and our growth funnel is very solid.

In scientific products and optics, our life science markets continue to expand. We're seeing strong growth across IVD bio and DNA sequencing, driven by new project traction and share gains. In energy, we did see some softness in Q4, and with the fluctuation of energy prices, we expect to see that kind of throughout the year. As it firms up now, that could get better as we go into 2019. The teams continue to drive growth through new project activity and over-serving our customers. In ag, the OEMs are holding up, but depressed commodity prices and lower net farm income are concerning. We're watching ag closely as we head into 2019. On the municipal markets, the North American market is stable and expected to modestly expand. Our focus remains on new product development in water and investment in emerging markets within fire and rescue.

The semiconductor market is small for us relative to our portfolio, but it's grown rapidly in the last couple of years. It was a difficult market in Q4, and we see more softness into next year. Let me move on to the geographic outlook. Sales across all geographies performed well in the quarter, with North America leading the way. We're starting to see lower market support in Europe and in Asia, but our targeted growth initiatives have driven positive results across the globe. Looking ahead, the fundamentals are still decent, as evidenced by stable day rates and strong project funnels. We do have pockets of concern in some markets and general caution with the overall 2019 global economic condition. Let me switch gears for a second here and talk about what we're seeing with tariffs and inflation.

In the current tariff environment, if we expect that to continue, our best estimate is an incremental $5 million-$7 million of impact in 2019. We will continue to employ internal countermeasures to offset these additional costs. We do not see them as significant headwinds for us as we go into this year. Inflation has slowed down on the material side, but we are experiencing wage inflation. However, we have and will continue to mitigate inflation through productivity and price realization. Again, regardless of the external environment, which we expect to be more challenging and remain volatile in 2019, we are committed to outperform our markets. Let's turn now and talk a little bit about M&A. The current valuation environment remains the biggest hurdle for us when it comes to acquisitions.

Our team is hard at work with evaluating several deals. We are going to be disciplined with our return framework. We will only move forward when our target has great strategic impact and financial impact. It fits our style of competition. Shareholder returns is our number one focus. We will continue to evaluate deals with our commitment of providing long-term shareholder value. Our balance sheet is in very strong position. When the right deal comes along, we will capitalize on it. Our gross leverage is 1.3 times. Our net leverage is only 0.6 times. Consistent with our balanced capital allocation framework, we repurchased $174 million of stock in 2018, with $122 million of that coming in the fourth quarter with opportunistic purchases. We also returned $127 million to shareholders in 2018 via dividends. I am going to pause now.

I am going to turn it back over to Bill Grogan, who is going to talk about financial results and our segment discussion.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Thanks, Andy. I will start with our consolidated financial results. I am on slide four. Order rates slowed down in Q4. We were up 1% overall and 2% organically. However, for the year, orders were up 7% overall and 6% organically. A solid year from an order intake perspective. For the Q4 slowdown, I will get into more detail as we go through the segment discussions, but I would like to say this. Our core industrial franchises did extremely well in the quarter. Secondly, we did see some timing related issues where we had some early receipts in Q3 and some delays out of Q4. Finally, we did see some true softness in a few markets. We think the quarter was closer to a 5% organic growth number if we normalize for some of these items, closer to where we think our new run rate will be for 2019.

From a sales perspective, Q4 revenue was up 5% overall and organically as well, while fiscal year revenue was up 9% overall and 8% organically. This was our highest organic sales growth since 2011. We expanded gross margins by 10 basis points for both Q4 and the year, primarily due to production efficiencies and volume leverage. This was partially offset by investments we made in engineering related to new product development. Q4 adjusted operating margin was 23.3%, up 120 basis points, and fiscal year-adjusted op margin was 23.4%, a 150 basis point increase. The teams did an excellent job of leveraging the great organic performance throughout the year in the bottom-line results. Q4 net income was $98 million, resulting in EPS of $1.27. Excluding restructuring expenses, adjusted EPS was $1.31, up $0.19 or 17%. Full-year net income was $411 million, with EPS of $5.29.

Excluding restructuring expenses, adjusted EPS was $5.41, up $1.10 or 26% higher than last year. Our Q4 effective tax rate was 23.8%, resulting in an ETR of 22.4% for the year. Both rates were lower than our previous guidance, resulting in $0.04 of EPS favorability in the quarter. The difference was primarily due to additional interpretations the IRS provided on tax reform, along with a reduction in the statutory rate in the Netherlands. Free cash flow for Q4 was strong at $137 million, up 14% and 136% of adjusted net income, which resulted in full-year free cash flow of $423 million, which was up 9% and 101% of adjusted net income. Free cash flow was only up 9% for the year, primarily due to working capital and capital expenditures investments that we made to support our long-term growth. In regards to the balance sheet, it remains very healthy.

Gross debt leverage is 1.3 times, while our net debt leverage is at 0.6 times. The combination of our strong balance sheet, capacity on the revolver, and free cash flow provides us the ability to deploy well over a billion and a half dollars over the next 12 months. I'll now turn to our segment discussion. I'm on slide five, starting with fluid and metering. FMT continues to deliver strong numbers from both an order and a revenue perspective. Q4 orders were flat overall, up 2% organically, while full-year orders were up 6% overall and 7% organically. The lower order rate was primarily driven by the timing of preseason orders for Banjo, where in Q3, orders were up 36%, and Q4 orders were down 5%, as well as we saw some project push-out in the quarter in the chemical and energy markets.

Q4 sales were up 7% overall and 8% organically, while full-year sales were up 8% overall and 9% organically. Adjusted for restructuring expenses, Q4 op margin was 29.1%, up 70 basis points over the prior year quarter. Full-year op margin was 29.2%, up 150 basis points. FMT's performance was primarily driven by market growth across the industrial and chemical sectors, coupled with continued stability in the muni market. Those served as the core drivers of growth over year, as evidenced by strong global demand in core distribution and project wins across the group. Oil price fluctuations in Q4 did postpone some investments. We're seeing market conditions improve as we have seen prices increase and stabilize. Ag order rates did slow in Q4, primarily due to the timing of the preseason orders I mentioned earlier. The fundamental economics in ags do give us some concern heading into 2019.

Project funnels in various end markets remain strong and active, have been less predictable in timing as we close out the year with the backdrop of caution in the global market. Overall, the targeted growth efforts across our businesses in this segment continue to gain wins and market share regardless of the slower market support. Let's move on to health science, turning to slide six. We're very pleased with the health science results both for Q4 as well as the fiscal year. Q4 orders were up 10% overall and 9% organically, while full-year orders were up 10% overall and 7% organically. In the quarter, the 9% organic growth was aided by some timing shifts related to receipts of annual POs by some of our large OEM customers. Q4 sales were up 8% overall and 7% organically, while fiscal year sales were up 9% and 6% organically.

Excluding restructuring expenses, Q4 adjusted op margin was 23.4% and full-year adjusted op margin was 23.6%. Both margins up over 110 basis points over the prior year. HST's performance was primarily driven by continued success in our IVD bio and our life science optics businesses, where they continued to outpace the market due to targeted MPD efforts in collaboration with key customers. HST Industrial remains strong with double-digit growth due to some large wins within our gas business and also continued strength in their day rate distribution business. Strong execution in MPT drove customer lead times and helped enable growth. We also had some solid project wins in the farm and food space that drove double-digit orders increases. Finally, despite the downturn in the semiconductor market, our sealing solutions continue to perform well in oil and gas and the industrial end markets. I'm moving on to our final segment, diversified.

I'm on slide seven. Q4 orders were down 10% overall and 8% organically, primarily due to the lumpiness of our dispensing business, coupled with the timing of a large annual blanket order at BAND-IT. While full-year orders were up 5% overall and up 4% organically. Q4 sales were down 2% overall and 1% organically, while full-year sales were up 9% overall and 7% organically. I'll give more details on that in a moment. Excluding restructuring expenses, Q4 adjusted op margin of 26.5% was flat with the prior year, while adjusted fiscal year-end operating margin was 26.8%, up 170 basis points from prior year. FSD sales performance was primarily driven by our fire business reporting high single-digit growth due to strength across most of their product categories and geographies. Rescue sales were up due to strong project volume in emerging markets and several wins in key markets in the U.S.

BAND-IT saw growth across most of its verticals, with transportation sales up due to significant volume increases in their airbag applications through new platform wins. They also had some nice project wins in the Middle East. The sales growth in fire and rescue and in BAND-IT was muted by the lumpiness of the dispensing business, which was down 25% for the quarter, but it was up 7% for the year. Dispensing does have market-leading positions across all of their geographies, but it is our most project-oriented business and creates tough comps from time to time. The dispensing sales decrease was the primary reason for op margin being flat for the quarter as well for FSD. I'll now pass it back to Andy to talk about our expectations for 2019.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thanks, Bill. Everybody, I'm on slide eight. We can walk through 2019 guidance. On an operational basis, we expect full-year organic revenue growth to be in the 4%-5% range, which will provide $0.30-$0.50 of benefit to EPS. We expect our productivity initiatives to offset inflation. Leverage these actions to drive about $0.03 of benefit over 2018. As I mentioned earlier, our focus has always been to invest in our best organic opportunities, people, new products, as well as new applications for existing products. We'll continue to make these investments across all three segments. These growth investments will create about $0.05 of pressure in 2019.

Although our two acquisitions in 2018, Finger Lakes Instrumentation and Phantom Controls, will provide very modest boosts to the top line in 2019, we're not expecting a significant benefit to the bottom line because of deal amortization. Let's take a quick look at a couple of non-operational items. First, FX. It will be a headwind in 2019 based on the December 31 rates and provide about $30 million of top-line pressure. The bottom line pressure from FX, it has two pieces to it that together add up to about $0.15. $0.11 is from FX translation due to the higher rates, plus an additional $0.04 on foreign currency transaction gain that were recorded in Q1 of 2018 as we unwound intercompany loans relative to the 2017 tax reform that we talked about last year.

Second, share buyback activities that we mentioned before have taken our share count down. It boosts our EPS in 2019 by about $0.06. In summary, we're projecting organic revenue growth in the 4%-5% range and have EPS expectations of $5.60-$5.80. We're going to wrap things up here. I'll summarize things regarding 2019, the fourth quarter, and the full year. I'm on our last slide. That's slide nine. In Q1, we're estimating EPS of $1.35-$1.38 with organic revenue growth again in the 4%-5% range and op margin at about 23%. We're projecting a 1% top-line headwind from FX, again based on the December 31 rates, which translates to about $0.02 of EPS. However, as I mentioned earlier, we're also facing an additional $0.04 of FX headwind from the transactional gain that we incurred in Q1 of 2018.

The Q1 effective tax rate is expected to be 22.5%. Corporate costs should be about $20 million-$22 million. If we turn to the full year 2019, again, EPS is expected to be $5.60-$5.80. Full-year organic revenue growth should be in the 4%-5% range. Op margin ought to be about 23.5%-24%. Top-line FX will be impacted by 1%, again based on the December 31 rates. Full year effective tax rate should be about 22.5%. CapEx is anticipated to be about $60 million. Free cash flow should be about 105%-110% of net income. Corporate costs are expected to be in the range of about $80 million-$84 million for the year. As always, our earnings and guidance exclude any potential associated costs, future acquisitions, or restructuring.

With that, Matt, we're going to pause here and I'll turn it back to you for questions from folks on the phone.

Operator

Great, thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to move your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question is from Allison Poliniak-Cusic from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Allison Poliniak-Cusic
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, good morning.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Hey, Allison.

Allison Poliniak-Cusic
Analyst, Wells Fargo

I want to go back to, I think I heard it correctly, on the order rates in Q4, trying to normalize some of the puts and takes. Were you saying the order rate was around 5% organically, or did I hear that wrong?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah. We'll talk through it, let me give us a little bit of high level, Bill, if you want to jump in, go ahead.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Yep.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

It was a pretty unusual quarter from an order perspective, Allison. What I mean by that is, if you look at our normalized book and turn business and our normalized funnel, that was right in that 4%-5% range. It was real solid. We had a bunch of things that moved around. In dispensing, we had some pretty big overall project things that moved around and actually in BAND-IT too. In both those places, we had some pretty good size chunks of things that got pushed over into 2019. I would certainly understand the concern of a headline organic 2%, but I do think that the underlying day rate support is more in that mid-single digit. Bill, anything you want to add?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah, totally agree. As Andy said, a lot of puts and takes, if you normalize our core as we reconcile the business, as we prepare to go into 2019, really comfortable with a close to 5% organic number in Q4, hence our guide for the balance of 2019.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

What I would add to that too, Allison, that I didn't mention on the positive side in the fourth quarter, we had a real nice blanket order that happened in HST. We will see a hole relative to that. That usually has happened historically in the first quarter, and it happened in the fourth quarter. When we're talking again here in 90 days, you will see some headwind from that on an order rate basis in HST. Just so you understand the puts and takes.

Allison Poliniak-Cusic
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Oh, great. That's helpful. Thank you. You talked about project pushouts. I think you mentioned chemicals specifically. Is this just typical project pushouts that happen, or does it feel like something underlying is going on there at this point?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

The fourth quarter was a pretty lumpy quarter. Historically, what we'd see is we'd see strength ramp through the quarter. In the fourth quarter, it happened right up until the holidays. That's what kind of things would look like. What the quarter looked like here was a weaker October, actually a really good November, then a weaker December. Obviously we've been talking with our customers to make sure there's not something systemic. What we just heard time and again is with all the craziness in the world, there was a big pause in December. By the way, what we've seen in January supports that. I walk out of January not feeling really concerned about what we saw in December. I think it's normalizing now. Bill, anything you'd like to add?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah, I'd just say, that point is the things that we saw push in December, we've realized several of those here in January.

Allison Poliniak-Cusic
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Great. Thanks so much.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

You bet, Allison. Thank you.

Operator

All right, next question is from Mike Halloran from Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Hey, morning, everyone.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Morning, Mike.

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Just following up on that, when you think about the non-lumpy pieces of the business, getting rid of dispensing and any of the other project-

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

oriented stuff, how have you seen trends track, trying to strip out comparisons? Has it been relatively stable in the context of that?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Has it seen some of that same December stall and then re-accelerate?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

No. Well, maybe a little bit of that, but not as much as the, I call it the project related stuff, Mike. Generally, the day rate businesses, and if you think of day rate businesses, it's basically everything except for a couple things in life sciences that happen once or twice a year, dispensing, MPT, and then the BAND-IT thing. They've got a couple of large customers that typically put in blankets that move around. It's not really project related, Mike. It's more just when does the blanket hit. Everything else in the portfolio, you're talking 75% of the business is you're looking at day rate type stuff or maybe two-thirds of the business, and that's real stable, nothing surprising there.

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

You always offer good broader perspective. Maybe you can try to balance the, what is certainly confident commentary on your side and growth expectations for 2019 that are healthy-

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

with a lot of the headline news we're seeing-

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Some of the regional risk and geopolitical risk out there, and how you're blending that all together.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Maybe, Mike, the way to take a step back and think of it is, we believe we'll deliver 200 basis points, 200 to 300 basis points better than the underlying markets. As we have triangulated on global industrial production forecasts, those look to be in kind of the 2%-3% range. That's what kind of gives us confidence around that 4%-5% as we think about this year. That being said, we were very purposeful in our written commentary here, or in our prepared remarks about the volatility that we continue to see in the world. I think that the fourth quarter, that variability that you saw October, November, December, is a good example of what I think the world is going to look like.

We had eight quarters of sequentially ramping growth rates, and I think we mentioned a quarter or two ago, certainly last quarter, that we thought that was going to change and become more lumpy, more volatile, and that is where we are. If we buy into a 2%-3% industrial production, we will land at that 4%-5%. We feel very confident. That underlying volatility is real, and it's something we're paying a lot of attention to.

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Just one follow-up on that then. Because there's volatility month to month, quarter to quarter here, what are you guys tracking or looking at internally to get a sense for what is just volatility-

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

or cause for more concern?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yes. I want to say there are kind of two or three things that really matter, right? If you think about what accelerates our business or decelerates our business, Mike. One is what's happening to day rates. The day rates actually matter more to us than anything else because so much of our business is quick turn. We're monitoring those. In those, we've always talked about the BAND-IT core industrial business, the gas business, the Warren Rupp business. Those are three really good beacons. Right now, they tell us that things are okay. That's what they've said.

That day rate piece is something we spend time on. As you look at project, as you know, Mike, we don't typically do big projects. There is one here, one there that's really meaningful. What matters, though, is the size of them and what's happening to where they sit in the scheduling. When you start to see projects shrink in size, number one, and number two, they get multiple kicks down the road, that's when you start to worry, right? When you get something pushed from December to January, you kind of get it, especially when it shows up in January. You understand it.

When you get the January, nope. It's now April. Nope. When you start to get that, and things that were $1 million have now gone to $250, that's when you start to get concerned. The last thing I'd say is just, really close relationships that we have with our OEMs and our value-added distributors, those are conversations that are just happening every day. Sometimes, they don't know their own business as well as we do sometimes, and so understanding kind of what's happening to their turnaround. We don't see a lot of things stocked for the most point, but we do have electronic kanban at major OEMs, so we monitor those. We do have a handful of distributors who are a little bit more classic in their inventory setups, and so we watch those, too.

Michael Halloran
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Great context as always. Appreciate it.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

You bet.

Operator

Our next question is from Deane Dray from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Hey, Deane.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

A special shout-out to Mike to get his power back.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah, no kidding.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Get back to normal.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

It was 26 below, Deane, when I drove in, and that didn't include the wind.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah. That just gets dangerous. Good luck with all that. I think you're sending it our way to the East Coast, too.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Oh, boy.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, just let me echo Mike's comments just then, how helpful it is that way you were able to parse out your business and the indicators. That's real helpful to us. Just to clarify, I heard Bill chime in at the end on Allison's question about those two orders.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

That were pushed, the dispensing and BAND-IT. Are they in that January category? Maybe just some bright color on those, just since it's so fresh.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

The BAND-IT order, they split their annual PO into two six-month POs. We expect that to get the BAND-IT piece later in the first half. Dispensing, a couple of projects we have landed and expect to land here within the next couple of weeks.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Good. You said BAND-IT's typically a blanket type order, and so that's not surprising.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Deane, that is a very specific large aerospace customer that we have. Most of the balance of their business is in that type.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

It's isolated really to a single customer and how they're breaking up their orders in 2019 versus what they've done the last two years.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

We've seen some softening in the whole dispensing supply chain. Is that also what you're seeing there?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

The issue you have with dispensing is we monitor market share, Deane, pretty carefully, because of our leadership position and to make sure that we're not losing anything significant. That's kind of number one. Number two, when you get into some of these larger programs, they hit periodically, and it just makes for, frankly, a really difficult comp when you go for, and you can go for a year or two without having that. We had some activity in 2018 as we closed out, excuse me, 2017. As we closed out 2018, we didn't have that, and we'll see what happens here in 2019. We track every single age of machine and replacement cycle and et cetera, but it's really driven by some of these larger paint retailers and whether they're going to refresh or not.

We just don't know that really until a few months until they're ready to move.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Just to swing over on the 2018 free cash flow, came out on the right side of that 100% threshold that everyone watches.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

You parsed out the two factors, which makes sense, higher working capital and the CapEx.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Maybe some color there. How much of the working capital reverses? On the CapEx, can you call out any of the projects and what kind of IRRs that you're seeing or that you expect on those investments?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Want that one?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah, sure. I would say specifically on the CapEx, I think this year we looked at a bunch of investments relative to new products and getting the capabilities to enhance our ability to get to market faster. We looked at several businesses that we had that had the opportunity to upgrade equipment to improve productivity and throughput to support the increased growth that we had. These are 12-24-month returns, higher than our overall IDEX return on invested capital numbers. No-brainer from an investment perspective. The teams really took a hard look, as we've seen CapEx ramp, still significantly below most of our peer groups relative to the capital we need to operate the business in, but high return projects. Relative to working capital, there is some opportunity here as we level out on the growth side to unwind some things.

You see our guide is higher than the 101% that we saw in 2018.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Just last quick question on fire and safety. Have the orders started to show up yet in India? I know that's a big-

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

growth opportunity for you guys. Where does that stand?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah. I was actually over there between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and we did a specific review on that, and that's actually starting to play out nicely. We're starting to get some of the wins. The spend, as you know, there's a little bit of a national, and then it turns into kind of regional or state, how the funds are distributed, and we are seeing some of that break, and we're seeing some pretty nice growth there.

Deane Dray
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Terrific. Thank you.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thanks, Deane.

Operator

Our next question is from Nathan Jones from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Good morning, everyone.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Hi, Nathan.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

I'm going to go to the margin side of this. The guidance for 2019 has quote, unquote, "only 30 to 40 basis points of margin expansion.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thank you, Nathan.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Well, it is significantly less than what you guys have been doing for the last few years. I'm wondering if we can talk a little bit about the puts and takes there. I'd imagine that there's probably not that much left in your fixed bucket at the moment that sees margins crop up a bit. Obviously, there's some impact from higher investments here. Probably a little bit lower incremental margins because you've got a little bit lower organic growth. Just if you can walk through kind of the puts and takes of that margin increase in 2019.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Let me talk about it first, if Bill wants to kick in, too, we'll do that. I think the increase that we're looking at, to me, is what a normalized expansion should look like based on the kind of growth that we're factoring. That, to me, feels right. Frankly, in 2018, our margin expansion was a little hot. Obviously, we outgrew our expectations, you just got much stronger incrementals throughout the year. I've said a few times that, look, if you're below 30% incrementals, you're probably investing too much. If you're above 40 for a long time without kind of structural actions, then you're probably not investing enough. This feels about right. I think we can sustain that at those growth rates.

Then, if you saw the world get tougher, our job would be to boost that and not lose a lot of ground here. If for some reason we saw some improvement in growth rates, we'd probably invest a little bit more. Probably not as aggressively as we have the last two years, we'd probably invest a little bit more, Nathan, than we have. If you go back to the bridge that you looked at, Bill, I may get this wrong, so correct me, I think last year we laid out $0.16 of incremental investment for the year in our bridge.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

A little bit less than that, it was double-digit, yeah.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah. This year is kind of 5-ish. You can see we are definitely tailoring that back down a little bit based on how quickly the environment is expanding.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Does currency impact the margins at all, or is this primarily just translation that just affects the actual dollar number but not the margin?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Correct.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Translation. That's right.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Got it. I know everybody's fairly concerned about the environment in China. I think you guys do less than 10% of revenue over there, but you do have a few businesses that participate over there.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Just any color you can give on what you're seeing in China at the moment?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah, absolutely. Part of that trip where I was in India, I was in China in that same period, too. That was a big question we were talking about here just a month ago. Look, it is definitely slowing. There's no doubt about that. The concern on the ground in China is pretty substantial. When you start talking to the people who are living it day to day, they are concerned about the growth rates. We've had some really strong growth in China in the last year or two because of, we frankly fixed a problem that we'd had for a while, and we've had some good growth, and we expect to see some continued good growth because of that. I do think overall, that market support is coming down. The key to it then, I think, Nathan, is where are you picking?

Which markets are you picking in? This isn't a ubiquitous statement that everything is slowing, but more things than not are. I think you got to be in China for China to sell into the region. You got to be in there for the long term. I do think, certainly in 2019, I think it's going to be more challenging.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Just a last one on capital allocation. You guys got a bit more aggressive in the fourth quarter on share repo.

Yeah.

Is that just a function of the market melted down and you saw an opportunity to get your stock at a good price, and we shouldn't read more than that into it?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

I think that's exactly right. We're following the framework that we've always talked about relative to intrinsic value, and being more aggressive when we see disconnects, and we saw a disconnect.

Nathan Jones
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Thanks very much for the time.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thanks, Nathan.

Operator

Our next question is from Scott Graham from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Good morning, Andy. Good morning, Bill.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Good morning.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Morning, Scott.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

I was hoping you could tell us what pricing was in the quarter, and then what materials inflation was relative to that. I know that's not how you do it, you look for productivity. Just for the purposes of the old price cost question.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Sure

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

if you could help us out. Thanks.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah. Price capture was a little bit over a point, the inflation, we maintain that 30-point spread that we've been able to do throughout the last two years.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

That's just materials inflation, or is that all inflation?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

That's material and wage at a gross margin level.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

How about just materials?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

It's-

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

It slowed a lot.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Materials leveled off. Material inflation leveled off in the back half, and a little bit of kicker as we saw some of the tariff increases come through in the third and fourth quarter.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Got it. Bill, you went through the capital allocation thinking for 2019. You mentioned the billion-dollar number. Forgive me, but I wasn't able to write that fast. Could you say where you guys are at capital allocation heading into the year?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Scott, we're at 1.3x gross leverage and 0.6x net. We said in our comments it was over a billion and a half. It's closer to two that we have availability on at any time here in the next 12 months.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Would it suggest that in the absence of M&A, that your sixth sense of share reduction benefit for 2019 might prove conservative?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Totally depends. Right?

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Yeah.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

We're going to stick with the framework. As we've said several times, but just to remind folks, our framework, we take a look at, and we just did it in the fall with our board, we take a look at what we think the long-term intrinsic value is. We build in a buffer relative to opportunity cost of capital. Then as we see our stock behave relative to that, we decide how aggressive we're going to get. We build that framework into a 10b5-1 in close periods, and we use the same framework in open periods. What we try to do, Scott, is really bring discipline to it, so it's not people reacting emotionally to good or bad news.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Got you. Last question. Can you tell us after, essentially what is now the first month, you indicated that your sort of run rate, your day rate orders were kind of 5-ish.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

in the fourth quarter. What does that number look like in January?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

It's not much different, right? We're basically kind of on our plan so far through the year, so.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Yeah

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

We feel pretty good about it. I mean, just from the start of the year. I wouldn't get overly excited about it, and it's not bad news. It's basically what we expect.

Scott Graham
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Understood. Thanks a lot.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Matt Summerville from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Matt Summerville
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Thanks. Just two questions. First, can you give a little bit more geographic granularity around how you performed in North America, Europe, Asia, for Q4 around that 5%, and then what the expectation is sort of around the four to five that you're guiding organically for 2019?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah. North America, as we said in our comments, North America continues to lead the way, and has so for quite some time. All indicators, Matt, suggest that that's going to be the case in 2019, unless we see a material global softening. Right? That is the biggest concern that I have. The biggest concern that I have is the volatility that we have, the geopolitical instability that's out there. The length of duration of the expansion overall, not the industrial, but the overall. That's what I think the risk is. North America has continued to be strong. Asia and Europe both started to soften two quarters ago. I think we mentioned that in the last call. That's continued. Asia, it kind of depends upon where you are. Right? China has softened. India is still pretty good.

Other parts of Asia Pac have been okay. Europe, I think the biggest concern in Europe is Germany. Right? We've got a pretty good footprint in Germany. We export a lot to other parts in the world from Germany. The softness that I think everybody experienced was above expectations. Right? It was softer than people had thought. That's a place that we're keeping a pretty close eye on.

Matt Summerville
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

As my follow-up, can you just give a little more detail on what you're seeing in your energy-facing businesses and FMT and with respect to BAND-IT, maybe tying in sort of up mid downstream commentary there?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah. As you know, Matt, we got to be somewhat careful in this commentary because we're not the best barometers for what's going on in the energy field, just by the nature of the nichey-ness where we play, number 1, and the fact that most of what we do is kind of midstream. I would just caution people that we're not the best barometer. That being said, when oil prices, energy prices kind of tanked there, we did see a slowing, and it was reasonable. It was a material slowing for that piece of business, which has since we've seen it pick back up here. Some of what we're experiencing in terms of positives, we know are driven by our own activity.

We've got some very specific wins that we got in BAND-IT that we can put our finger on that are kind of non-market related. Same thing I'd say over at Helmer Scientific and Corken. I would say that the general market conditions have been softer with recently a little bit of improvement. I still think that I'm going to put that in the cautionary category. Our job is to keep getting wins and frankly, keep taking down lead times. One of the things that we've certainly learned around energy is, the folks who are deep in the upstream, the pricing sensitivity is brutal, when things go south, and we just don't have that. That's not a place we want to put big bets into the future. Also lead times really matter, right?

Your speed of service and quality of service is a major advantage in those markets, and so we're spending more time there trying to build that advantage.

Matt Summerville
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Thanks, Andy.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Our next question is from Joe Giordano from Cowen and Company. Please go ahead.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Hey, guys. Morning.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Hey, Joe.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Andy, I got to say, you sound more optimistic than I expected on this quarter.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

I think, Joe, obviously everyone gets a little bit of a reputation. I think my optimism is more on our ability to execute than it is on the markets, to be clear, right? We've built some really excellent capability around executing and look, we're calling, we're kind of living with what the global, quote unquote, experts are saying around global industrial production. That's a really good starting point for us. But where I feel good is our ability to consistently outperform. A lot of this depends upon what your view is, right, of the markets. At this stage, we're not bucking the trend. We do tend to be earlier cycle. I will tell you, there are parts of the fourth quarter, I got a little nervous during the fourth quarter because of the clunkiness that we were seeing.

That coming back has given me a better feeling about certainly earlier in the year.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

You talk about the 200 basis points that you expect to do over market, I think you've proven the ability that that's a reasonable expectation. When you think about that market component, that other 200, we have a couple auto guys that we've talked to, it's a different market clearly.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

They're guiding like way underneath what current third party.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

estimates are for growth. Do you feel like you're gaming the market at all or are you just like, this is a number, it'll probably go down, but we're using what they say for now? Does that make sense?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

It's hard to tell, right? My point of view of this is we kind of start with what does the world think is going to happen? What are the experts saying is going to happen? We tend to be a little more bearish on that than average, right? If the world is saying two to three, we'll tend to go more towards two than we will towards three, right?

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Yeah.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

From there, it's really starting to dissect where we have exposure and where we don't, right? The nice part of our portfolio is we have really broad exposure. There isn't a lot on the margin that happens relative to our exposure versus global exposure, except maybe in a quarter, right? A quarter or a half a year. Then it's really driven by our ability to get some things done. As I sit here, my confidence level in our ability to execute is high. My confidence level on the responsibility and the capability of the folks who are in the geopolitical discussion is exceptionally low. I have no confidence that they're going to get it right. My concern then, right, is an event that gets driven by the intersection of the aging cycle and the irresponsibility of global leaders.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Yeah. I think that's definitely fair. Last thing from me, you guys spent a lot on growth investments this year. You're calling out another $0.05 next year.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Obviously less of an incremental, but still a big number off a big year, like in gross dollar terms.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Yeah.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Do you feel like you're teeing up more and more things to start restructuring and taper down? Maybe not executing on them yet, if things on day rates still look good, but are you like teeing up more of this stuff now than you were, maybe a year ago?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

I think, if I actually take a look at cap spending, let's go back two or three years, right? Because that's when it started to pick up a little bit. We went from kind of 1.6%, 1.7%. We're now kind of 2.1%-2.2%. Call it four to five tenths of a point of increase in cap spending. What that's been associated with is really is the function of all of the segmentation work we've been doing for a half a decade, and getting better and better at picking the organic growth opportunities and the productivity projects that have much bigger bang for the buck. If I go back to my comment just a few moments ago, my confidence level about our ability to execute over and above whatever the market does is really based on that. That investment is mirroring that condition.

I think where we are is, I feel pretty comfortable that, we're in a range that we're likely to be for a while.

Joe Giordano
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Fair enough. Thanks, guys.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thank you, Joe.

Operator

Our next question is from Walt Liptak from Seaport Global. Please go ahead.

Walt Liptak
Analyst, Seaport Global

Hi. Thanks, guys. I think I've got one question left for you. We covered a lot. I wanted to go back to the margin questions. You're netting inflation with productivity, so I wonder if we could just drill down into that productivity part of it. How do you feel about productivity in 2019, and how much more is there to go on bringing up margins? 2019, 2020, is there still a lot of work to do?

William K. Grogan
SVP and CFO, IDEX Corporation

Hey, Walt Liptak, it's Bill Grogan. I would say a couple things. First, I'd refer to Andy Silvernail's earlier comment on margin expansion in that 30 to 50 basis points relative to the 4%-5% growth that we've seen. Relative to our ability to drive incremental productivity, there's still stuff out there. The teams have a rolling 12-month funnel that we leverage, actively looking at ways to improve material costs through alternate sourcing, reengineering parts that take cost out, labor efficiencies, overhead streamlining through, we did a site consolidation this year, and other capital investment to improve our overall throughput with enhanced technology. As we look at the funnel, our projects that we've signed up for this year from our internal plans is on par with what we delivered in 2018.

Walt Liptak
Analyst, Seaport Global

Okay. Just thinking about that longer term, you guys have done a great job with productivity over the last few years. Are margins sort of peaking out here, or is this the kind of a process where you can keep on going for a number of years, and continue to get that 30 to 50 basis points margin improvement?

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Walt Liptak, I think we can still go get more. I've kind of two pieces of thinking around that. The first one is, we spend a lot of time looking at the difference between our contribution margin and our op margin. When you do that walk right, you've got about a 40-point walk that we call conversion cost. You can still reinvest aggressively back into the business and still very actively improve conversion cost to get the kind of lift that we're talking about without starving the business. That's kind of the first, I think structurally one of the things that I think makes IDEX different and on average, more attractive, financial engine, for lack of a better term, is that reality, right?

If you assume you're going to get positive growth in the business, once you get kind of past 2%, at about 2%, you're paying the bills, right? You're covering your normal inflation. Once you get past that, you have the ability to get some level of expansion. If you're in the mid-single digits, you're going to get that 30 to 50, chances are. I think that reality of the IDEX economic engine, I think is really important. We just spend a ton of time. When we say productivity, we're not trying to grind out kind of marginal productivity. We go into every cycle. When I say cycle, Bill Grogan said we got a 12-month rolling funnel.

Every time we have a business review, we're looking a year forward, we have a base expectation that people are going to cover or do better than inflation. When you partner that with a business that gets positive price, there's really no reason why you can't continue to see margin expansion. Certainly, as you move from what we're calling now 23%- 24%, into the mid-to-high 20s%.

Walt Liptak
Analyst, Seaport Global

Okay, that sounds great. Okay, thank you.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

Thank you, Walt.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing comments.

Andrew K. Silvernail
Chairman and CEO, IDEX Corporation

First of all, let me just say thank you for everybody for your time and your effort that you put in to following IDEX. We appreciate the analyst community, and we appreciate our investment community. I think it's important to note, we're very cautious about the underlying environment that's out there in terms of where we are in the cycle, in terms of the likelihood of a recession. We very much believe that somewhere in the next 24 to 36 months, there's going to be a recession, and we believe that to be true. At the same time, we think that the long term relative to the industrial cycle, we actually think is really attractive. We want to put ourselves in a position to really win over the long term.

I like what we're doing in terms of focused investment, putting our money in our highest priorities, continuing to segment our business, building our team. The team's done a great job, and I want to congratulate them. They've really been outstanding. I want to thank everybody there. Just as a final word before we go, being a Maine native from New England, I've got to say, go Pats. With that, we'll cover things. We'll finish up the day. I want to thank you, Matt, and thank you everybody again. Take care.

Operator

Great. Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you again for your participation.