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Earnings Call: Q3 2014

Oct 14, 2014

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the third quarter 2014 Intel Corporation earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. If anyone should require audio assistance during the conference, please press star then zero to reach an operator. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mark Henninger, Head of Intel Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Mark Henninger
Head of Investor Relations, Intel

Thank you, Jamie. Welcome everyone to Intel's third quarter 2014 earnings conference call. By now, you should have received a copy of our earnings release and the CFO commentary that goes along with it. If you've not received both documents, they're available on our investor website, intc.com. I'm joined today by Brian Krzanich, our CEO, and Stacy Smith, our Chief Financial Officer. In a moment, we'll hear brief remarks from both of them, followed by Q&A. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it, and as such, does include risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our press release for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially.

Also, if during this call we use any non-GAAP financial measures or references, we'll post the appropriate GAAP financial reconciliation to our investor web intc.com. Finally, I'd like to remind everyone that we'll be hosting our annual investor meeting here in our Santa Clara headquarters on Thursday, November 20th. If you have questions about the event or logistics, please contact investor relations. With that, let me hand it over to Brian.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

Thanks, Mark. Our third quarter results were consistent with our expectations and included a number of important milestones. Revenue and earnings per share both set new records, with strong performances from the PC and the Data Center Group. The trends we observed in the PC market last quarter continued, with stability in mature markets offset by ongoing declines in emerging markets. The Client Computing Group launched Core M, a new family of products with full core performance in both compute and graphics in a fan-less design, enabling breakthrough designs and form factors. The first of these systems will be available by the end of this month. In the Data Center Group, we saw double-digit revenue growth across all four major market segments. Enterprise grew 11%, networking grew 16%, and HPC and cloud service providers grew 22% and 34%, respectively. We also launched the new Xeon E5 processor, formerly known as Grantley.

This product family provides leadership features and performance for compute, storage, and network workloads. Formally launched just five weeks ago, E5 is already 10% of our DP or two-socket volume. In the Mobile and Communications Group, losses declined sequentially, that's a trend we need to see continue. Tablet volume was nearly 15 million units, and we remain on track to our 40-million unit goal for 2014. Third parties estimate that we are now the second-largest tablet SoC vendor worldwide and the largest among merchant suppliers. In addition, Samsung chose our Cat 6 LTE modem with carrier aggregation, known as the 7260, for its recently announced Galaxy Alpha and Galaxy Note 4. The strategic importance of these capabilities continues to grow. Our LTE technology, which we originally developed for phones, is becoming increasingly valuable in tablets and even PCs, as wireless wide area network connectivity becomes increasingly common.

We estimate, for example, that by 2018, the rate of baseband attached to tablets will roughly double, and in PCs will rise to more than 15%. Overall, we've made some good progress during this quarter, yet we have important work left to do. Within our factory network, 14-nanometer yields improved meaningfully, but we're behind where we expected to be. These challenges highlight just how difficult it has become to ramp advanced process technology. I'm most pleased that our strategy for growth is beginning to yield results across a remarkably wide range of products. We sold record volumes of PC, server, Internet of Things, phone, and tablet products. The diversity and scale of our products uniquely position us across the breadth of devices that compute and connect. Importantly, our results demonstrate that we are building on our success in the PC and Data Center segments to successfully pursue adjacent opportunities.

These businesses are the source of tremendous intellectual property, and that IP creates valuable and important synergies that position us to compete in an increasingly diverse computing market. Let me share a few examples. At IDF, I showed the world's thinnest tablet, a Dell Venue with Intel RealSense technology. It has an industry-first 3D camera that enables features like after-the-fact focusing and a host of capabilities that have the potential to change how people engage with their photography. That technology was first developed for PCs and was adapted for tablets. In this case, we're in a position to differentiate in tablets precisely because we invested in next-generation technology for PCs. Another example of IP synergy is the Atom microarchitecture. We first brought Atom to market as an extension of the PC product family.

We've purposely evolved that IP to the point that it now spans from smartphones to tablets and mainstream PCs. From storage, networking, and compute devices in the data center to the Internet of Things. Lastly, I'm excited about the moves we're making to engage the ecosystem in new and potentially disruptive ways. We're establishing our position and capabilities in emerging sectors like wearables before they become mainstream. The Data Center team is customizing our Xeon products for specific customers and workloads. Custom SKUs now number roughly 35, and over the last year, volume from custom SKUs has grown at 3x the rate of our off-the-shelf products. We're also striking groundbreaking strategic agreements. Our recently announced collaborations with Rockchip, and more recently, Spreadtrum, will provide new sources of innovation and a new set of partners that will work with us to scale Intel architecture.

Our vision is that if it's smart and connected, it's best with Intel. The breadth of our results this quarter, our progress against our strategic goals, and the changes we're making in our approach to end markets, leave me convinced that our strategy is working. With that, let me turn the call over to Stacy.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Thanks, Brian. The third quarter was the highest revenue in the company's history, with overall results demonstrating solid financial growth as we approach the end of this year. Focusing on our third quarter results, revenue came in at $14.6 billion, up 8% from a year ago. Both the Client Computing Group and the Data Center Group achieved better growth than we expected at the beginning of the quarter. Client Computing Group revenue was up 9% from a year ago. We saw Client Computing Group platform unit volumes grow 15% year-over-year, and inclusive of tablets, we saw almost 30% unit growth. Of note, our notebook platform units grew over 20% year-over-year as we are enabling innovative 2-in-1 devices and growing our market segment share with Bay Trail at lower price points.

Our Data Center Group revenue grew 16% from a year ago, with platform volumes up 6% and platform average selling prices up 9%. We are seeing robust growth rates across all the segments of our data center business. Operating income for the third quarter was $4.5 billion, up $1 billion and 30% from a year ago. Operating income in the Client Computing Group was $4.1 billion, and in the Data Center Group, operating income was $1.9 billion. The Mobile and Communications Group had $1 billion of loss, which is an $81 million improvement from the second quarter. The company generated $3.3 billion of net income for the third quarter, up 12% from a year ago, and earnings per share was $0.66, up 14% from a year ago. Our net inventory levels rose modestly quarter-over-quarter as we are efficiently managing capacity while ramping Broadwell on 14 nanometers.

The worldwide PC supply chain appears to be healthy, with inventory levels appropriate in anticipation of the fourth quarter retail cycles. Moving to gross margin. Third quarter gross margin of 65% was up half a point from the second quarter and down one point from our guidance. The increase from the second quarter was primarily due to lower platform unit costs on 22 nanometer and higher platform volumes, mostly offset by higher production costs on 14 nanometer products. Spending came in at $4.8 billion, $100 million lower than our outlook. The overall decrease in spending was driven by efficiencies and one-time events like capital asset sales, partially offset by higher profit-dependent expenses. The business continued to generate significant cash, with over $5.7 billion of cash from operations in Q3. We purchased $2.4 billion in capital assets, paid $1.1 billion in dividends, and repurchased over $4 billion of stock.

Total cash balance at the end of the quarter was roughly $16 billion, down approximately $1.7 billion from the prior quarter. Our net cash balance, total cash less debt, is approximately $2 billion, and inclusive of our other longer-term investments, it is more than $6 billion. This is down by almost $2 billion from the second quarter. As we look forward to the fourth quarter of 2014, we are forecasting the midpoint of the revenue range at $14.7 billion, up 1% from the third quarter. This forecast is in line with the historical average seasonal increase for the fourth quarter. We are forecasting the midpoint of the gross margin range for the fourth quarter to be 64%. The one point decrease from the third quarter is driven by higher platform unit costs, higher factory startup costs, primarily offset by lower production costs on 14 nanometer.

As we enter the fourth quarter, we are seeing our strategy play out in our financial results. In the third quarter, we grew revenue 8% and grew operating profit 30% versus last year. We also shipped over 100 million units for the first time in our history across a widening range of devices. In the client segment, we are seeing robust growth in the PC segment as a result of innovation and enabling lower price points. We have grown to be the largest merchant supplier of tablet silicon, and we are winning large designs with our LTE communications products. Our Internet of Things business is ramping Atom-based products and growing. In the data center, we continue to innovate our products, bring increased differentiation and value to our customers. Underlying all of this is our manufacturing leadership.

We have led the world to 14 nanometer and plan to do the same with 10 nanometer process technology. With that, let me turn it back over to Mark.

Mark Henninger
Head of Investor Relations, Intel

All right. Moving on to Q&A. As is our normal practice, we would ask each participant to ask one question and just one follow-up if you have one. Jamie, please go ahead and introduce our first questioner.

Operator

Again, ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press the star key, followed by the one key on your touch tone telephone. Our first question comes from Ross Seymore from Deutsche Bank.

Ross Seymore
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi, guys. Congrats on the strong results. One bigger picture question than a smaller picture one for my second follow-up, please. On the bigger picture one, your units in the Client Computing Group being up 15% year-over-year, can you talk a little bit about what you think is driving that in the PC market that I think most of the third-party data provider says is flat? Do you think that delta can actually stay that large for a bit longer?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Hey, Ross. This is Stacy. I'll start it, then I think Brian will fill in some of the color commentary about what we're seeing in the end markets. Yeah, we've seen some of the third-party data. When you adjust for some of the other form factors like core-based tablets and things, I'd say our view of the end market, compared to, say, an IDC, isn't terribly different in terms of the growth rate. We would both say it's relatively flat year-on-year in the third quarter. In terms of our billing results, I think there's a couple of things driving that. First, we saw in Q2 that we gained a relatively significant amount of share once everybody had reported. If I had to branch predict, I'd say we probably continued to gain some share in Q3.

As is per usual, we'll wait to see all the third-party results come in to know for sure, our sense is that we gained some share in the third quarter, that helped. We're also seeing our customers putting in place a normal supply line in anticipation of a consumer-led seasonal fourth quarter, that's different than what we saw a year ago, where people were managing inventory levels very low in anticipation of a very muted fourth quarter. I think the combination of those two things has our billing results ahead of the IDC, but feels like it's pretty appropriate based on where I sit.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

No, I think, Stacy, you covered it well. I think that, from what we've seen, probably covers most of the gap between the two numbers.

Ross Seymore
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

I guess as my follow-up, while it's not really meaningful to the revenue side, it surely is to the bottom line, and that's your Mobile Communications Group. Can you talk a little bit about how we should expect that contra revenue impact to trend over time? I believe in the past you said that you didn't think you'd get to profitability next year, but any sort of clues that you could provide on how we should expect either the revenue or the profitability to trend as we get into next year? Thank you.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

Sure. I'll start, Stacy can jump in, because how you look at how we're adjusting the products and engineering is a little bit ahead of where you see the financials move. We'll give you the two sides of that equation. From a product standpoint, you saw throughout this year, we did a very good job of as we figured out how to get into this market, work with our customers and partners, how to reduce the cost, just on the general BOM, picking the right PMIC, the right board layouts, reducing our part counts, all of those kinds of just, I'll call it, fundamental engineering efforts, is what we focused on. As we got to the end of the year, then we brought out the Bay Trail cost reduced part, the first part that was really focused on this segment of the market.

You're starting to see systems come onto the shelves as we go through the holiday season with Bay Trail CR, and that part will start to have really a designed in cost reduced effort. We said that we'd have SoFIA, the 3G version, out at the end of this year. We're on schedule. We've got SoFIA in the labs, running. It's starting its validation effort. We said we'd have SoFIA LTE in the first half of next year. That's on schedule. We announced several partnerships, two main ones, Rockchip and then more recently Spreadtrum, which are focused around the SoFIA architecture, bringing parts for this mobile space really designed by people who are in that ecosystem, are very cost efficient, and are connected into both the China market and the worldwide market. You'll see those parts come out as we go through next year.

When we look at the end of next year, we'll look at a model. SoFIA is built to have no contra revenue. When you go through the next year, again, it'll be somewhat mix dependent as our parts shift the mix, and Stacy will talk to you a little bit about that. That's why it's a bit hard to predict exactly when. You'll see us mix Bay Trail cost reduce, Cherry Trail, and then a lot of SoFIA coming in both the tablet and phone space. That really is what drives the contra out of the system.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. Ross, let me just, as Brian said, the way the contra accounting works is the contra dollars that we recognize are associated with the platforms as they actually ship. What you're seeing right now is the majority of our shipments are products that are carrying a fairly high contra dollar per unit. As we ramp the Bay Trail CR and then the SoFIA products, you'll start to see the contra dollars per unit come down. I'm not going to provide a specific forecast at this time for 2015. I'll stand behind the prior statements. We plan to make a substantial improvement in the profitability of the segment next year, don't get too far out ahead of your skis. We're not at the point that we'll be profitable next year. It is still our goal, it'll take us a little time to get there.

Ross Seymore
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Blayne Curtis from Barclays.

Blayne Curtis
Analyst, Barclays

Hey, thanks for taking my question, and nice quarter. Stacy, I just want to follow up. You talked about the more normal kind of supply chain this year, and helping Q2, Q3. You're actually not guiding to a down December, so it seems like you're staying at that elevated rate. Just some thoughts on seasonality. You also have Broadwell, who kind of launches at an atypical point of the year. Is there any sort of catch-up before you kind of ramp Broadwell into late first half next year?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

I want to make sure I'm answering the right question. You had one question on seasonality, and I'm not sure I understood the Broadwell question. let me-

Blayne Curtis
Analyst, Barclays

I guess-

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

answer the seasonality, and I'll give it back over to you.

Blayne Curtis
Analyst, Barclays

Okay.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

If you want to clarify it now, that's also fine.

Blayne Curtis
Analyst, Barclays

I just was pointing out that you're launching a platform, usually you launch it for back to school and holiday, and the majority of the Broadwell SKUs coming in the first half of the year, so it's just atypical timing. Just thinking about seasonality, and then I just wanted to clarify your comments. You said the supply chain was building ahead, but it doesn't seem like it's pulling back particularly much in Q4. Just thoughts there.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. Just to clarify on the supply chain and seasonality for Q4, I wouldn't term it as building ahead. What I'd say is appropriate amount of inventory in anticipation of a seasonal Q4. If you go back a year to Q3 of 2013, if you recall, we were talking about unusually low inventory levels, based on our customers, I think I used the word muted, having muted expectations about the fourth quarter. Today, I'd say they have kind of normal expectations about the third quarter. Our guidance for Q4 would be consistent with that. We're guiding 1% up, if you take the point of our guidance, that's kind of the seasonality we've seen over the last several years, so it's pretty much in line with normal seasonality. In terms of Broadwell and the impact on 2015 seasonality, I'm not providing a forecast yet for 2015.

We'll talk more about 2015 when we get to the investor meeting, which is just a few weeks away.

Blayne Curtis
Analyst, Barclays

Okay, just to follow up on the gross margin. Given your full year guidance, you were looking at a step down in December. Now it looks like the gross margin sustains quite nicely. Just what changed in that outlook, and do any of those factors carry into the first half next year?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. As you rightly pointed out, the gross margin forecast for the year is pretty much on. We were a little light in Q3. We look a little better in Q4 based on the algebra that I gave you in the last call. In essence, we're seeing more of the 14 nanometer costs coming through in the third quarter versus the fourth quarter. That's why you see that shift between quarters and the year staying on track. Again, I'll sound a little bit like a broken record, in terms of 2015, we're only a few weeks away from the investor meeting, and that's a great forum for us to talk about longer term trends. We're going to hold off on the 2015 questions until we get to the November investor meeting.

Blayne Curtis
Analyst, Barclays

Thanks so much.

Operator

The next question comes from Harlan Sur from J.P. Morgan.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Great. Thank you for taking my question, and congratulations on the solid quarterly execution. DCG was up strongly in Q2 and again here in Q3, up 16% year-over-year. Strong growth in all end markets. Do you expect the breadth of spend to continue across the different customer base in Q4? I know cloud tends to be a bit lumpy. Do you expect to see continued double-digit growth in DCG in the fourth quarter?

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

Sure. This is Brian. I think what we said was we believe we can grow this business around 15% year-over-year. You kind of framed it correctly, that we do, especially in the cloud space, it tends to be lumpy. If you take a look at what we're projecting for the fourth quarter, we're projecting right in line for that 15% for the year, and it's got the normal mix of what we see across the enterprise and the cloud and the HPC and other data centers. We're expecting Q4 to kind of just progress from Q3. We're not changing our forward-looking, what we believe we can grow this business at.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Great. Thank you for that. I guess part of the reason for the lower gross margin profile in the fourth quarter is the ramp of 14 nanometer across multiple fabs. I think you said on the last call, take a couple of quarters to ramp up to full manufacturing capability, after which time you would see ramp costs starting to come down. Is that how you still see it?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. I think I said you see a highly elevated cost for a couple of quarters, it starts coming down, it takes a period of time for it to come down. That's the normal trend. We're certainly seeing those elevated costs in Q3. You can see it in the gross margin recon. You'll still see high sell-through costs as those products are selling through in the fourth quarter. To 2015, I'll get a lot more specific on some of the unit cost trends next month at the investor meeting.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Great. Thank you.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Thanks, Harlan.

Operator

The next question comes from Jim Covello from Goldman Sachs.

Jim Covello
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. You guys referenced the opportunity for consumer buying in the fourth quarter. We saw really good demand in the third quarter from consumers driven by the new products that you and Microsoft combined to introduce. They were great new products, and the consumer uptake of them was very good. Do you think that impacts the fourth quarter versus third quarter buying at all? I'll kind of make my follow-up as part of this question. Do you see the iPhone 6 cannibalizing any kind of the notebook demand, just given the price points are the same? Obviously, the functionality isn't the same.

Given that most of the top 10 selling notebooks are right around that same price point as the notebooks, do you think there's any cannibalism going on there as you get to the fourth quarter, or is that part of the guidance? Thanks a lot.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

Let me start just on a general basis, and Stacy can jump in. I'd say in general, again, we're predicting or we're forecasting a fourth quarter that's seasonal. What we saw in the third quarter, plus, as you said, about 1% growth as we go into the fourth quarter, which is pretty typical if you go back over the last three years of what we see Q3 to Q4. We're seeing that same trend in consumer being flat to a normal year's performance hold through the fourth quarter. Your question about iPhone 6, no. Typically, we see a separation in that space between consumers going out and buying phones versus PCs. As you say, there's a big difference in the functionality and usage models between those two.

I think people, when they want the usage model and the functionality of PC, they look at that cost, and as you said, it's very similar cost. They look at it and say, "This is a really good value for the functionality I'm getting." We typically haven't seen a cross between those two from a demand standpoint.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Can I just come back and take a little issue with the question? I don't think we saw extraordinary consumer demand in the third quarter. If you go back to the strength of end markets, I think we're pretty aligned with the third parties. It was pretty flat. From an end market standpoint, it was pretty flat. We didn't see anything unusual there. What we saw was some share gain, which caused us to have a nice bump in billings, and we saw a normal amount of inventory being put in the system relative to last year at the same time, where people were managing inventory levels low. I'd term it more stable PC markets and people betting on a normal consumer fourth quarter.

Jim Covello
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Very helpful. Thank you. Congratulations.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Sure. Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from John Pitzer from Credit Suisse.

John Pitzer
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Yeah, good afternoon, guys. Congratulations on the strong quarter. First question is for Stacy. Stacy, when you look at the revenue in the PC Client Group, I think year to date, you're up about $1.1 billion, and yet operating profits are up, I think, about twice that. I'm just wondering if you can talk a little bit about what you're doing in OpEx in that business around profitability, and I guess how much more do you have left to drive profitability in the core PC Client Group?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

I'll answer the question in regards to this year, again, I'll probably hold off on a discussion about 2015 until we get to the investor meeting. I think what you see going on this year is probably three things that are all contributing to the operating profit. First, they've got a great product portfolio. When you look at where we're seeing growth, we're seeing nice growth in the Core i5, Core i7 segments of the market, then we've brought in some really good technology that's got a good cost structure at the low end of the market that gives them a nice cost structure and allows them to go after unit growth. I think this really all starts with the product portfolio. Adding to that, I think we have a couple of tailwinds on gross margin in 2014.

Our 22 nanometer costs are just spectacular. We're at the low end of the cycle in terms of how much startup cost flows through, the Client Computing Group picks up the majority of those. I also think the leadership of that team has done a nice job of prioritizing investments. We've been making investments in some new areas where Brian and I thought it was pretty important, they've had a bit of a constrained budget, I think they've done a nice job of bringing out technology that really helps their business while prioritizing within a pretty constrained budget. I'd say that's what happened in 2014. The 2015 discussion will be part of the investor meeting next month.

John Pitzer
Analyst, Credit Suisse

That's helpful, Stacy. As my follow-up for Brian. Brian, you guys have been talking about a stabilizing PC market for the last couple of quarters, over the last couple of quarters, you've been leaning a little bit more heavily on developed versus developing and corporate versus consumer. When you look at the Q3 results and especially on the ASP line and your guidance for Q4, is this just seasonal consumer strength, or do you actually think that both in the developed and developing market, you can now start talking about turning a corner relative to tablet cannibalization and perhaps PC stabilization in emerging market consumer?

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

I think what we would phrase this as, or what we did phrase this as, is it's seasonal. We're not saying that In fact, we said that the consumer, we believe, is flat, that there's seasonal growth as we move into the fourth quarter, we're still seeing that mature versus emerging market trends that we talked about in the previous quarters, where the mature markets are a bit stronger, the U.S. especially, Western Europe, though, as well. The emerging markets, China, Latin America, and some of the others are still soft. Those trends are continuing, when you look at the consumer as we go into the fourth quarter, we've forecasted a seasonal growth for the consumer side.

John Pitzer
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Perfect. Thanks, guys. Congratulations again.

Operator

The next question comes from Joseph Moore from Morgan Stanley.

Joseph Moore
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great, thank you. I wonder if I could just push a little bit more on the gap between the 15% unit growth versus the market. I think you attributed it to three factors, to share gains, to the core base tablet, and to the inventory environment a year ago. Which of those factors do you think is the most important, just because it's such a wide gap between the numbers?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

I actually think they're all sizable numbers. It's not unusual for us to have those kinds of differences from the third parties. I think coming back to the prior question, Brian answered, we've had sustained share gains, I think, over a period of time. That's probably a slightly larger number. Then kind of a normal amount of inventory we put in the system, you can do that math with the third element being the core-based tablets, which I think is going to be relatively smaller.

Joseph Moore
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. Then just so I understand the tablet differential, if it's got anything that has a Bay Trail-M or a Core, is considered a PC unit the way that you're classifying it, is that right?

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

It's more the Core. Products that have a Core, I use the Microsoft Surface as a great example. We classify that in the PC side.

Joseph Moore
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Got it.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

That's probably the cleanest example I can give you.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

IDC would classify that in a different category. That's an adjustment you always have to make. I'd also say there's a piece, we tend to have a difference with the third parties, on an ongoing basis, and I think it comes down to the breadth of tracking in the white box, deep in the emerging markets, the tier 3, tier 4 cities, very hard to get your arms around that holistically. We tend to see over long periods of time, we'll have a slightly higher billing number than they show as a market number, and best we can tell, it's just hard to get your arms around the diversity of the market when you get into the white box channel in emerging markets. That's always going to be a difference between us.

Joseph Moore
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Stacy Rasgon from Sanford Bernstein.

Stacy Rasgon
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I'm sorry to harp on it, but I want to go back to this as well. I understand you're saying for your own business, you think consumer is kind of seasonal and I guess flattish for the year in Q4. Obviously you and I guess your channel partners must be expecting a much bigger ramp of consumer in Q4, given how much inventory you must have built in the channel in Q3. I guess how do you get comfort that that consumer sell-through is going to be there in Q4, and what's going to be the consequence if that consumer sell-through is not there? Is the corporate uptake still there? Is that going to be enough to offset?

How do we, I guess, judge the potential scenarios around consumer demand in Q4 and the sensitivity of your guidance around that?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

That's a lot of different questions in one. Let me take a shot here, though. I'd say first to the inventory. This is Stacy, by the way, and Brian will jump in. I'd say to inventory levels, what we see is when you look at it in terms of weeks of inventory, it's appropriate levels of inventory. It's kind of right in the range of what we'd expect. You termed it as excessive inventory. I think we're not seeing that. As always, if demand doesn't materialize, then customers adjust their buying pattern and bring inventory levels down. What we see is kind of normal levels of inventory in anticipation of a seasonal Q4. That's what our customers think will happen, and that's I think what we think will happen in terms of our seasonal results.

You also had a question on consumer versus enterprise and the strength of enterprise. I'll let Brian talk about those market trends.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

First, I just need to go back to the inventory comment as well. We do what I believe is a really good job of watching our whole supply chain from below us, looking at things like the motherboard ordering pattern at the ODMs in Asia, and what's happening there to the pulls from our inventory hubs. Remember, more than half of our product ships out of hubs now that we actually control the inventory on until the OEM pulls it at the last moment of use. We see the actual usage rates there to what's flying off the shelves at the point of sale. We're watching all of those, and I think we've demonstrated in the past, back in a variety of market moves, that we'll react very quickly.

As Stacy said, I feel the current inventory is very typical for this 1% seasonal growth that we're forecasting for the fourth quarter. I'm comfortable, I'm also even more comfortable that we'll be watching it, and if something did happen, we could adjust in either direction. The comment about consumer versus enterprise, as we said, we forecasted a standard seasonal consumer. We're expecting not a great holiday season, not a bad holiday season, a standard holiday season for the consumer in the PC segment. We continue to see enterprise strength. It's shifting. It was strong in desktops earlier in the year. It's kind of moved to notebooks as we move to the second half of the year.

Some of the markets have shifted a little bit, overall, the enterprise, all the way from large enterprise through small, medium business, has stayed fairly strong through this year. Still seeing a mature market versus emerging market trend, mature being stronger than the emerging. Those trends have stayed, we've just forecasted a seasonal consumer. I'm pretty comfortable with where we're at, and I think we've got the right tools in place to watch this.

Stacy Rasgon
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Got it. For my follow-up, let me ask the question a different way then. How much did the weeks of inventory in the channel go up in Q3 to bring them to levels that you would now classify as sort of healthy and appropriate for the Q4 patterns that you're talking about?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah, I'm going to hold off on quantifying that, Stacy. I'd say we look at a range of inventory in terms of forward-looking weeks, we're well within the normal bands of that range. We're not seeing anything that's elevated there.

Stacy Rasgon
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from C.J. Muse from ISI Group.

C.J. Muse
Analyst, ISI Group

Yeah. Good afternoon. Thank you for letting me ask a question. I guess first question, curious in terms of whether your guide has changed at all in the last two to three weeks, given growing macro concerns, declining commodity prices, weakness Europe, et cetera. Anything in terms of your guide change, with the vision of seasonality, maybe something a little better? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

No. The only guide we've provided is the one we provided a couple of hours ago. We watch the markets all the time. I think if your question is, have we been going and doing triple checks after seeing some of the Microchip results and things like that, we did. We're not seeing anything that's unusual out there. Again, it's not a surprising forecast for Q4. It's seasonally up on the back of a more or less seasonal Q3.

C.J. Muse
Analyst, ISI Group

Just checking. That's helpful. I guess as my follow-up question, curious if you can comment on operating leverage. If we go back to your initial guide for the year at flat revenues, now up around 6% at the midpoint of your guide, during that same time, you've grown your OpEx by 5%. In your prepared remarks, you talked about IP synergy. Curious how we should think about operating leverage going forward.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. It's a long-term/short-term phenomenon that we've talked about. We will absolutely go into this more in November. Brian and I are still committed to bringing our spending as a percent of revenue down. We will be down a little bit this year just by dent of the increase in revenue. On the flip side, this is very much a transitional time for us, we have been making some incremental investments over the course of the last year in areas where we felt like we needed to, and where we would generate a long-term return. We're glad we were able to bring it down a little bit, particularly the back half of 2014 is better than the first half.

We'll continue to bring it down. We knew we were during a time where we were making some elevated investments that we felt we needed to make.

C.J. Muse
Analyst, ISI Group

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Vivek Arya from Bank of America.

Vivek Arya
Analyst, Bank of America

Thanks for taking my question. Can you talk about the carrier certification and some of the competitive landscape you are seeing in LTE basebands? I guess the bigger question, Brian, there is that other than this roll-up of the tablet contract revenues, are there other actions you can take to reduce losses in the mobile division?

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

Sure. Let me try and answer your question. There is, I believe, two questions built in there. The first was around where are we with certifications on our LTE, and where are we relative to our LTE roadmap. What I would tell you is our 7260, as you heard, has had several design wins. We've been able to publicly say two of them with Samsung. There are others in the works that we're working on right now. As far as certifications with the carriers, we've begun certifications across the world. You will see the systems in almost every geography as they come out. We've been shipping with a variety of products throughout this year in a variety of the other markets, especially in Asia. We feel fairly strong.

We also still see there's only two people out shipping Cat 6 LTE modems right now, we feel good about our roadmap. We have a roadmap moving forward, going beyond Cat 6, that we feel is highly competitive and keeps us at or near the leading edge. From a modem standpoint, we feel very strong right now. You asked, is there other things that we can do to reduce our MCG spending? I think there is. If you take a look at what we're driving on our phone strategy, we're really driving a strategy that rather than go and push on our own into the phone space, we're really going with strong partners that are in that space already and have the linkages and the customer relationships.

Really, Spreadtrum is the most, I'd say, perfect example of that, where they're strong in China, they're strong in other parts of the world. They're a great supplier to several of the OEMs. Us bringing our SoFIA platform, our Base IA, along with our modem technology, then over time, will likely come into our silicon as well. That gives us and them a competitive advantage and a cost advantage, we believe, and a way to get into those markets in a very cost-effective, efficient way.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

If I can just add one thing. I think Brian talked about the first step is great product, second step is getting the right investment level, and I think one of the things you're seeing from him and the company is a lot of innovation in terms of how we go to market. There's a third piece here too, which is, I think increasingly, we're going to see that the IP that we're creating for the Mobile Group is useful, and in fact, becomes a competitive advantage across the breadth of our product line. Brian talked in his prepared remarks, if, as we think happens over time, more of the computers of the world, the notebook computers of the world, are connecting via wireless WAN, and we're one of the only companies that has that IP.

There's a lot of company synergy associated with us investing and leading in that technology.

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

I think that's a great point. You're going to need those modems in IoT. We said that roughly 15% of the PCs in a couple of years will need them. Then there's that synergy of we're going to try, and even down in this space, bring some of that innovation in IP, like the RealSense cameras and all the way through the mobile space as well, which will help us differentiate our products and, working with our partners, allow them to differentiate as well.

Mark Henninger
Head of Investor Relations, Intel

Operator, I think we're going to take two more questions. If you can go ahead and introduce the next questioner, please.

Operator

The next question comes from Doug Freedman from RBC Capital Markets.

Doug Freedman
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hi, guys. Thanks so much for allowing me to ask a question, congrats on the strong results as well. If I could dig in a little bit on what's going on in your tablet goal. It does seem I heard a $15 million number for the quarter that you shipped. That would mean that you need to ship, actually, I believe if I've added up right, about $10 million next quarter. Does that mean that the subsidies have peaked in the third quarter, or do you think you're going to exceed your tablet shipment goal by an equal amount?

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

Let me answer the question on volume, and I'll let Stacy talk about the subsidies. Your numbers are very close. You're right, we hit about $15 million. We think $10 million-$12 million for Q4. We're not going to necessarily try and blow the number out, but we're also not going to miss it by a million or two. My guess is somewhere between $40 million and $45 million is where we'll end up. Exactly where that is, we'll make sure we're past the 40, there's no need to go well above that.

As we said, that puts us as the largest merchant supplier to the tablet business. Where we're really trying to move that space now is both our cost reduction but also differentiating with products like the Dell Venue, which we believe is the thinnest and has a lot of innovation with the first of the RealSense. A lot of other products with our other OEM partners like Lenovo moving forward. I'll let Stacy talk about what that means for our subsidies, our contra.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. The contra answer is a little bit complex, Doug, because keep in mind, it has to do with both volume and the mix of what we're shipping for the earlier answer to the question about the different platforms come with different subsidy dollars per unit. I'd expect net of all of that, we're going to see revenue results in this segment that aren't terribly dissimilar from what we saw in Q3. We'll start to see reductions as we move into next year.

Doug Freedman
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, great. Thanks so much. If I could, for my follow-up, just one on some startup accounting. Clearly, it did impact gross margin this quarter and your guidance. Is there any color that you can offer us on sort of what your outlook is in the way in which you think you're going to ramp 10 nanometer? It appears as though the 14 nanometer, the magnitude of ramp with the Broadwell platform is a little less than you might have expected as we entered the year. Is that something that you think might repeat on future nodes?

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. Apologies. This is Stacy, broken record Smith. I'll talk more about gross margin trends for 2015 next month when we get to the investor meeting. You are seeing in the fourth quarter, you're seeing the front edge of the startup costs associated with 10 nanometer. That's kind of right in line with the historical timing of what you'd expect. We'll go through more next month where we talk about how that might look over the next couple of years. You are seeing at least the front edge of the timing that you'd expect. It's about a point of gross margin next quarter.

Doug Freedman
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thanks so much. I had to try.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

I understand.

Mark Henninger
Head of Investor Relations, Intel

Thanks, Doug. Operator, if you can go ahead and introduce our last questioner, please.

Operator

Our final question comes from Mark Lipacis from Jefferies.

Mark Lipacis
Analyst, Jefferies

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. The first question I had was on the tablet market. When you look at the units that you have shipped so far this year, and as you look into what you're expecting to ship next year, to what extent are the tablets that you're shipping into, are they Android versus Windows tablets? Has that played out differently than you expected, that mix, as Microsoft seems to have cut the price of the bundle of Windows and Office?

Brian Krzanich
CEO, Intel

The mix of Android versus Windows has pretty much played out as we forecasted. Probably 80% plus still Android. Our mix represents pretty much what you see in the marketplace or if you walk into any store. There hasn't been really any shift as we get through.

Mark Lipacis
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. Thank you. The second question, if I may be. There's a view out there that the PC growth that you've been seeing has been driven by mostly a Windows XP upgrade cycle. Could you update us on your thoughts on that topic? Do you feel better about the idea that it's not just Windows XP, but rather innovation driving the demand? Thank you.

Stacy Smith
CFO, Intel

Yeah. This is Stacy. I mean, there's no data that's going to prove the point one way or the other. Based on what we see in our surveys, there's a variety of things that are causing people to go and upgrade their PCs. Certainly, the Windows refresh is one of them, but it's also form factors, it's the age of the PCs, and the price points. I think all of that is playing in, and I think when we look across the breadth of our SKUs and knowing which of those are going into large enterprise, small and medium consumer, we get a sense of we're seeing growth that's more broadly than just something where people are upgrading Windows. I'd say to the second part of your question in terms of where are we.

I'd say in the back half of the year, believe that the impact that we were seeing with XP is probably less than it was in the front half of the year. There's likely a pretty long tail that has some positive impact on the market for a while to come when you just look at the age of the installed base and how many of those are now in supported operating systems.

Mark Lipacis
Analyst, Jefferies

Thank you. It's very helpful.

Mark Henninger
Head of Investor Relations, Intel

Sure. Great. Thanks, Mark. All right. Thank you all for joining us today. Jamie, please go ahead and wrap up the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference for today. Again, thank you for your participation. You may all disconnect. Have a great day.