Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Intel Corporation First Quarter 2013 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call may be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mark Henninger, Director of Investor Relations.
Sir, you may begin.
Thanks, Sami, and welcome, everyone, to Intel's Q1 2013 conference call. By now, you should have received a copy of our earnings release and the CFO commentary that goes along with that. If you've not received both documents, they're currently available on our website intc.com. I'm joined today by Paul Adolini, our President and CEO and Stacy Smith, our Chief Financial Officer.
In a moment, we'll hear brief remarks from
both of them followed by the Q and A. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it and as such does include risks and uncertainties.
Please refer to our press release
for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Also, during this call, we
use any non GAAP financial measures or references, we'll post the appropriate GAAP financial reconciliation to our website, intc.com. So with that, let me hand it over to Paul.
Thanks, Mark, and good afternoon. As you know, I have a month left in my career at Intel and this will be my last conference call with you. I've been doing these calls since 1993 and I've done approximately 80 calls with you. I wanted to take a departure from my traditional remarks during this my final earnings call. During the next few minutes, I'd like to share some perspective on the company and on our industry drawing from my career and my experience as Intel's 5th CEO.
I came to Intel nearly 40 years ago eager to join a team of extraordinarily smart, creative and driven engineers and the legendary team of founders, some of the greatest minds in technology. In 1974, Intel was still a startup with revenues of $134,000,000 and a culture built on relentless innovation and designed to thrive on change. A revolution in computing had just begun, but it would take us another decade before we realized how dramatically it would change our business and the world. Amidst all of that change and reinvention, there has however been a constant. From the early days of DRAM To the era of the 1st microprocessor from 1 architectural battle to the next and across generations of form factors and operating systems, Intel has grown and thrived.
Naturally constant change and reinvention creates plenty of room for both opportunity and skepticism. As the industry and the company evolved, risk and uncertainty were common, The company's inventiveness, architectural innovation, manufacturing expertise and intense drive allowed to allow us to create and capitalize on opportunity over the long haul. In May of 2005, I became CEO and over the past 8 years, we've executed a broad strategy to reposition the company to participate in all segments of computing by capitalizing on all of our considerable strengths. We implemented the TikTok model, which set the pace of innovation and has become an industry benchmark of execution. We developed the Atom Micro architecture to address low power and low cost market segments.
Through the acquisitions of Infineon Wireless Solutions and McAfee, We've invested in strategic capabilities like baseband technology and security that position us to deliver important new capabilities and compete across and even broader range of devices. And we've invented and implemented manufacturing breakthroughs that are allowing us to deliver on the promise and Competitive Benefits of Moore's Law. Never in the history of our company has our ability to participate across the spectrum of computing been greater From industrial machines that are increasingly connected to the Internet to the smallest battery powered devices from traditional PC to ultrabooks and from high performance servers to micro servers, storage and networking equipment, we now compete wherever there is computing. At the same time, we put more distance between us and the rest of the semiconductor industry than ever before. In the Q1, we shipped our 100 millionth 22 nanometer processor using our revolutionary 3 d transistor technology while the rest of the industry works to ship its first unit.
That breakthrough is just one in a long history of material science firsts, following innovations like Strainsilicon and Hi ks Metal Gate. This leadership in materials science and manufacturing technology is the foundation on which our future success will be based, arming us with the world's lowest power and lowest cost transistors. But even as I prepare to pass the baton to a new generation of leadership, I know Intel's story is nowhere near completely written. I'm excited about what lies ahead for Intel. The company has a historically broad portfolio of products spanning the spectrum of computing and price points.
And as we begin to transition to 14 nanometer technology later this year, our architectural and process technology investments and innovation will become increasingly apparent and Valuable for our customers and to the market. Over the past few months, I've been traveling to our sites here in the U. S. And around the world. That creativity and drive that first attracted me to Intel almost 4 decades ago has never been higher.
The company's core architectural and manufacturing strengths have never been more valuable and the opportunity presented by the evolution and expansion of the computing industry has never been greater. It's for those reasons that I'm confident that Intel will continue to invent, Grow, Thrive and Deliver the Best Technology to a World Increasingly Hungry for the Products of the Microprocessor Revolution. With that, let me turn the meeting over to Stacy.
Thanks, Paul. I'd like to take a minute and talk about what we're seeing in each of the segments of our business and our expectations as we look forward to the rest of the year. Starting with the PC client group. PC client volumes were down seasonally in the Q1, consistent with our expectations. In addition, we believe the worldwide PC supply chain saw a continued reduction in inventory levels in the Q1 as customers decreased inventory of older generation PCs.
In the Q2, we will launch Haswell, enabling a new wave of ultra sleek designs across multiple form factors by our customers. We believe the combination of an improving macroeconomic environment, Haswell coming to the market, Ultramobile Form Factors like Ultrabooks, convertibles and tablets and touch enabled devices leads to a return to growth in the second half of this year. Moving to the Data Center Group. Data Center Group revenue in the Q1 grew 7% from a year ago. On a year on year basis, We saw significant growth in both the cloud and high performance computing segments of the market.
We continue to refresh our product lines to expand our offerings across all ranges of performance, performance per watt and performance per watt per dollar. At IDF Beijing last week, We announced that our next generation Adam processor for the microserver segment of the market, code named Avaton, and our Ivy Bridge product for Xeon class servers will be shipping in the second half. These leadership products coupled with our leading edge process technology and the secular growth trends of the data center market give us confidence in double digit revenue growth for the year. We are making significant progress in tablets and phones. Q1 tablet volume more than doubled from the Q4 and we expect it to double again in the Q2.
We have shipping designs across both Windows 8 and Android operating In the second half, we will launch Baytrail, which will further extend our product line across screen sizes and price points. In the phone segment, We had a good Q1 in our baseband business. We are shipping LTE versions today and are on track to ship multimode voice and data LTE baseband solutions by the end of the year. We are winning designs with our new CloverTrail Plus apps processor where customers and third parties are highlighting both the performance and power efficiency of our architecture and are on track to ship our next generation product code named Merrifield by the end of the year. And other important segments of our business, we saw year on year growth in both our software and services group and our NAND business.
Turning to our 1st quarter revenue finished at $12,600,000,000 in line with our expectations. We are forecasting revenue $12,900,000,000 for the 2nd quarter, which is slightly higher than the average seasonal increase as we expect some pipeline inventory replenishment as we launch Haswell in anticipation of a stronger second half. Gross margin of 56% was down 2 points from expectations. Increased demand from our customers allowed us to increase production of Haswell products prior to qualification for sale. The result of this was a higher than anticipated inventory write off, we expect to get back throughout the rest of the year as the product is expected to qualify for sale in the Q2.
In addition, we saw higher than expected excess capacity charges on older generation process technologies. We are taking advantage of the excess capacity on older generation process technologies to take capacity offline and reuse more equipment and space for 14 nanometer and beyond. The results of these actions allows us to lower our capital spending forecast for the year by $1,000,000,000 down to $12,000,000,000 In addition, our inventories decreased almost $400,000,000 from the 4th quarter. For the 2nd quarter, we expect gross margin to increase 2 points to 58% and the gross margin forecast for the year remained 60% with gross margins in the second half back into the low 60s. Operating income for the Q1 was $2,500,000,000 with earnings per share of $0.40 Taking a look at the balance sheet, Total cash investments ended the quarter at $17,100,000,000 down $1,100,000,000 from the 4th quarter.
The reduction in cash was a result of shifting almost $1,000,000,000 from short term to longer term investments. In the Q1, we generated approximately $4,000,000,000 in cash from operations, paid approximately $1,000,000,000 in dividends, purchased a little over $2,000,000,000 in capital assets and repurchased $500,000,000 in stock. As Paul said, our manufacturing leadership is extending and gives us the world's lowest cost and lowest power In the Q1, we shipped our 1st silicon to a foundry customer and we announced a significant foundry design win with Ultera, who will move their leading edge products to our 14 nanometer process technology. Building on this leadership, we are on track to start production on 14 nanometer technology in the back half of this year. The combination of an improving macroeconomic environment and new products coming to the market over the course of the year that take advantage of our manufacturing leadership, increase our confidence in being able to achieve financial growth in the second half of twenty thirteen.
With that, let me turn it back over to Mark.
All right. Thank you, Paul and Stacy. Before we begin the Q and A, I do recognize that there are questions about the upcoming senior transition.
The selection process is on track and
the Board's goal remains to name a successor by the time Paul retires at the Annual Shareholder Meeting in May. Beyond this, we won't be offering any additional commentary on the status of the process or the candidates for today. Moving on to the Q and A, as is our normal practice,
we would ask
13. Session. Our first question comes from Sumit Dohanda of ISI Group. Your line is now open.
Yes. Hi, guys. And Paul, congratulations on a very successful career. Two questions for you. Stacy, it seems like notebook ASPs were up a little bit sequentially based on the data that you provided in the CFO commentary.
Could you help us understand what that was due to? Was it enterprise versus consumer mix or was there a bigger proportion of touch that was shipped in the quarter?
Yes. I mean there wasn't a very significant change quarter on quarter in terms of notebook ASPs. I would just characterize it as a fairly benign pricing environment. The way we characterized it at the beginning of the year is that we have I think a strong product position really across different form factors in the market and it played out as we expected. So I'd characterize that as just not a lot of change from the way we saw things a quarter ago.
Okay. And then for my follow-up, just on the server piece, the last couple of quarters, units So pretty flat and then volumes were down 6% in the calendar Q1. I would thought that with the easy comps, you might have seen a slightly better volume pickup in that business. Anything you could talk to with respect to why that Did not occur.
Well, on a year over year comparison, units were up and ASP was up a little bit in the data center group. I think it's a little bit of an improvement of what we saw in the Q4 in the enterprise segment of the data center And then we continue to see very robust growth rates across the high performance computing and the big IP data centers that support the cloud. So it's a nice continuation of growth in those segments and then a little bit better in the Enterprise segment. And as I just Think forward to the back half of the year, my suspicion is we'll start to see the Enterprise segment growing Again, just based on macroeconomic improvement.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Sure.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ambrish Srivastava of BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Thank you. And I'll echo what Suneet said, Paul. It has been a pleasure interacting with you over the years. All the best. A couple of questions.
My First one is, Stacy, if you could please talk about the capacity. How much of the CapEx is can be moderated lower if the PC industry continues to be weaker than probably what you thought going into the year. So that's my first question.
Okay.
I'd say we're really well positioned right now from a And let me just rewind what we did in the Q1. We saw that units were a little bit weaker than we expected and our expectations came down a bit. That allowed us to bring utilization down on some older generation technology. You can see we brought our inventory levels down pretty significantly and actually a bit more than I thought when I started the quarter. And we took $1,000,000,000 out of CapEx by rolling forward some older generation technologies to offset things that we needed to buy for 14 nanometer and new process Technologies.
In terms of your question of the levers that we have, I think that's a good example of how we can be responsive in a very tactical time horizon to changes in demand. And as I look forward across the year, the prediction right now is we're going to run-in the healthy rate of utilization. In fact, we're starting the quarter at that utilization rate. I think inventories will continue to be healthy. If demand turns out to be stronger, we have some white space That we can grow into so we can respond up.
If demand ends up being a little weaker than we thought, you saw the playbook in Q1, we can pretty quickly react Bring CapEx down if that's the case.
Okay. And then my follow-up on the foundry strategy maybe for Paul or for you. What's the long term vision? Getting Ultera was a feather in your cap, but then looking out ahead, what implications does that have 4A business mix and then also for the long term margin structure for the company. Thank you.
Sure. I've described the strategy before as a crawl walk run strategy. We're past crawling. We're in the mode of collecting serious customers. The design win activity leads the announcement activity as you'd expect in this business.
And there are some other customers that we still have not yet publicly announced. In terms of The business as Stacy said I think last quarter, it will not have a significant revenue impact to the company for 2 to 3 years. That's the design cycle for these products. And in the case of someone like Alterra, the products tend to run for quite some time. So think of that as something that will start 2 plus years from now and run for quite a number of years thereafter on several generations of technology.
The business model that we have for the foundry assumes value based pricing. That is the people that we are soliciting and people that are attracted to us are those who see the advantages of our technology as it manifests itself in their products and gives them an advantage in the marketplace. So it's a healthy business for us.
All right. Next question.
Thank you. Our next question comes from John Pitzer of Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.
Yes. Paul, let me add my congratulations and best wishes in the next phase of your life. A couple of questions here, guys. First, just relative to What your units did in PCG versus some third party data and kind of your commentary that you thought that the PC supply chain went through an inventory reduction. There seems to be a little bit of a mismatch where you guys have outperformed.
To what extent is that just netbooks not being classified in your PC Group and being classified in 3rd party data. To what extent is that emerging market strength perhaps picking up that the 3rd party data is not sort of capturing?
Yes. Actually, I'll start this is Stacy. I'll start with Stacy by saying, we're when you take into account all of the different categories that the 3rd parties are looking at. I'd say we're pretty aligned with how they view the year. And so you start with the traditional PC segment of the market, we do expect that to be down.
We expect net books to be down You can see that in our other IAG results and in fact it's getting close to 0. I think that category is coming to the end of its life. And then we see some of the new form factors of computing that are growing significantly. I think Gartner would call those ultra mobile devices, so things like ultra books, We're seeing robust growth there. And then we're now participating across a broad range of tablets between Windows 8 and Android and with Baytrail coming out and then Merrifield behind that.
We started to participate in a much broader set of screen sizes and price points than we are today. And so when you net all of this out and you look broadly at the market for computing, you see some of the traditional form factors down, you see growth in these new form factors. We get to kind of very slight unit growth for the year and that's pretty consistent with how the 3rd parties are viewing the year.
Perfect. That's helpful. And then Stacy as my follow on, just the operating profitability of DCG was down about 500 basis points sequentially. And I guess it's the lowest in the data set that I'm looking at. Is that incremental OpEx you guys try to broaden out into new areas like networking and storage?
Is that a gross margin problem? Can you help me understand the profitability? And when do we get back to kind of that 50% op margin that we saw maybe 5 quarters ago, if ever?
Yes. It's a combination of 2 things and you'll notice John that it's also impacting PCCG. As we said at the beginning of the quarter, we had significant capacity charges that hit both PCCG and DCG and we had a big increase in startup costs as you kind of expect based on where we are in the 14 nanometer ramp and those two business units are the ones that really drive both of those and so that's where those costs hit. So as the gross margin improves, we expect that Q1 is the bottom, it's up a bit in Q2 and then a back half that's back into the low 60s. You'll see the operating profit moving back into what you have historically come to expect in DCG.
Thank you. Welcome.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Stanwy of JPMorgan. Your line is now open.
Hey, thanks guys. I guess my first question is on the foundry business. Paul, you said that the response has been tremendous. You've also in the past said that you probably wouldn't take any business that was ARM Processor slash potential competitor to yourself in the PC or the handset arena. Has that stance changed at all?
No, it hasn't. I mean, I think that The ground rules that we've laid out which are I mean, I had 3 that I was looking at. 1 is that it'd be value based pricing to take advantage of our technology. The second is that we would not enable a chip competitor. And the third that we have not mentioned on the call yet today is that it would be great if We could form a strategic relationship with that customer so that it went beyond just a single foundry transaction.
Thanks. And then for my follow-up, if we look at the ESSO sequentials for Q1, Q2 this year, it's pretty similar to last year. I know none of us want a repeat of the second half of last year. Can you just maybe compare and contrast and what gives you confidence that we're not going to see a repeat of last year and the second half of this year for sales?
Well, what gives me confidence in the second half of twenty thirteen really comes down to 2 things. 1, we do expect that the macro environment will improve. That's consistent with what we're seeing for most economists now. Jay, that could be a repeat to what we thought last year. I think the world was expecting a stronger macroeconomic second half of twenty twelve, but it didn't materialize.
But that is my belief right now. That will directly impact our data center business. There's a big portion of that business that really is correlated to GDP growth when you look at it over a long period of time. And then secondly is our product portfolio and we now participate across a broad range of devices, tablets and convertibles and detachables and phones, although phones won't really drive the results in the second half. And so, we can embrace this broad market for computing now and wherever the demand increases, we can participate And a year ago, we were in the middle of that transition.
And so as tablets ramped and particularly as Android tablets ramped, we really weren't in a position participate in those segments of the market.
I did a third thing Chris which is I think that As the OEMs start looking at new form factors that they can design around Our new chips Haswell in particular maybe Bay Trail and Windows 8 enabling touch, the explosion in form factors and the competitiveness of that platform is going to be substantially different at price points down into the $300 or $400 range enabling touch. We didn't have that last year. You go into the prime selling season with new products, new technologies, new form factors and new capabilities that up to now unapproachable price points.
Got it. Thanks guys. Thanks, Chris.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ross Seymore of Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.
Hi, guys. First of all, congratulations to Paul and best of luck with retirement.
And then for my first question, moving on to
the DCG side. Again, I know you said Stacy that you're confident in double digit growth for the year and that macro is a big part of it. Is there any sort of granularity you can give us to get us across that bridge from what seem to be a relatively weak start to the year whether by the end markets within that segment or new products. Anything you can help us with would be great.
Yes. Maybe it's useful. I'll give you a little bit of color commentary on Q1 just so you can kind of see what we're seeing in terms of Growth Rates. We saw the if you look at the traditional enterprise segment of the market on a year over year basis, as I said earlier, It's growing a little bit, but think of it as a pretty low growth rate and that's compared to the last couple of quarters where we saw that market in decline. So I think you'd say It's improving, but it's not robust.
And then we continue to see very high rates of growth in things like the cloud and high performance computing. And when I say high rates of growth, think of things that are in the 20%, 30%, 40% year on year unit growth rates in those segments of the market. I think that 2nd piece is really a secular driver. It's all these devices computing, connecting the Internet, driving the build out of the cloud. And then the first piece, I think is improving and will likely improve into the second half.
Great. And then I guess for my follow-up side of things, thinking A little bit about inventory and then how it plays along into utilization. You guys over the last two quarters have taken the better part of $1,000,000,000 out of your inventory. A year ago at this You started ramping that back up and then obviously demand was a problem and you had to go back to the underutilization side of things. Are you going to be a bit more cautious on the pace of utilization and inventory build this year or some of the things macro wise and product wise that are giving you confidence in the back half demand going to lead you to be the same behavior or just as aggressive as a year ago?
Thank you.
I think we're on a path Where inventory levels in the year no more than what we have today and likely less than what we have today. I think we're all learning how to operate more efficiency. Now it may go up a little bit in the second quarter as the various versions of Haswell Qualify, which is part of the story for the Q1 margin miss. But yes, they will continue to manage things very lean. And as I said As an answer to a question earlier, we're now in a really nice position where we have the capability to flex capacity up if we need to and so that so they don't need to run with big inventory levels.
Great. Thank you.
Welcome.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Covello of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Guys, thanks so much for taking the question. First question, The last time PC units were at this level was Q2 'nine and your quarterly CapEx was less than $1,000,000,000 it was 981,000,000 The full year CapEx guidance implies you're going to be spending 3 times that amount in quarterly CapEx for the rest of this year. Why do you need that much capacity when units are at the same levels as then?
Well, let me put CapEx in maybe a broader context. First, if you take out the 4 50 millimeter, we're down a couple of $1,000,000,000 from where we were last year, pretty significant reduction.
And if
you just look at our capital spending as a percent of revenue relative to the last several years, we're in the high teens and the last couple of years we've been in the low 20s. So I think we're kind of in the range and you compare that against some of the people we compare against TSMC or Samsung, They're spending some significant multiple of CapEx relative to revenue to what we are. So I think we're spending the right amount. I think we can be responsive If the market ends up a little bit weaker, I think we have the ability to flex up if the market ends up being stronger. I'm very comfortable with our positioning.
And as I just discussed with Ross, the operational indicators look really good. I think we can Yes, we're at a healthy level of inventory. We brought it down another $400,000,000 this quarter. We're running healthy utilization and I expect both of those to continue through the year.
I absolutely appreciate the perspective around the numbers, but it still doesn't really answer why it needs to be 3x higher than when units were at
the same level. Well, any of you do any quarter compare, you're going to you can capital spending tends to be over a long period of time. So if you look at it on an annual basis, what we're forecasting for this year is kind of down A little bit on a percent of revenue relative to what we spent in 2010, 2011 and 2012.
Thanks very much.
Welcome. By the way, 2,009 is a weird comparison point because you're in the aftermath of the financial meltdown. And as we disclosed to you at that time, that gave us the ability to roll forward entire factories full of equipment from 1 process generation to the next. I think if you choose that particular time period, You're going to get a weird compare.
Okay. I was just picking it because that's the last time units were at this level, but I understand. That's helpful. Thank you. You're welcome.
Thank you. Our next question comes from David Wong of Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.
Thank you. Just to clarify some of the numbers. You mentioned the 4 50 millimeter spending. Is that still assumed to be about $2,000,000,000 for this year and therefore your spending on your core CapEx for this year is planned to be about $10,000,000,000 down from $11,000,000,000 last year. Is that the way the numbers work?
Yes, that's correct.
Okay, great. And the other thing is in your full year revenue guidance, can you give us any idea of roughly what percent of full year sales might be related to tablets and smartphones. What's assumed for that?
Yes. Well, So let me take it at a higher level, David, and I'll get to that. But the short answer is smartphones is It doesn't move the needle for us from a revenue standpoint. As we've said, we're in the design win phase there. Tablets is interesting, but I want to talk about that in the context The broader market for computing.
So let's start with the data center. It's about 20% of our revenue. We've said we expect it to be double digit growth. So if you just do simple manager math that says that just the data center is giving a couple of points, maybe a smidge more than that to the company's growth rate that we've said is low single digits. So just the data center kind of gets us there.
Within the broader market for computing, it's the answer that I gave John earlier, which is We're seeing a decline in some of the traditional form factors. We're seeing an increase in things like ultrabooks, convertibles, tablets. We're refreshing our product line there. When you net all that out, you get to some very modest unit growth across all of those devices. So think of that as being flattish up a smidge And then the rest of it is relatively small compared to those two businesses and that's how you get to low single digit growth for the company.
Great. Thanks very much.
Sure.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Vivek Arya of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.
Thanks for taking my question and thanks and best wishes to you, Paul. My first question is, so Our Windows 8 traction has been well below expectations relative to your last earnings call. So what specifically in Haswell can help turn it around. And can you give us a sense of how your customers are thinking about how they will roll out products when Hassell comes out? What will really change in the landscape to improve PC market traction?
Well, with Haswell, there's a number of things. First of all, the overall performance goes up, the graphics performance goes up as well as the Integer performance. So it's a better punch in the package than we've had with Ivy Bridge, point 1. Point 2, the power envelope or the battery life for that level of performance is exceptionally better than Ivy Bridge. 3rd, it gets into the form factor innovation and the integration of touch that I spoke about earlier, which I think is really part of the recipe required for Win8 adoption.
I've recently converted personally to Windows 8 with touch. And it is a better Windows than Windows 7 in the desktop mode When you implement the touch and the touch based applications and operating environment, it's just a lot easier to use. There is an adoption curve. And once you get over that adoption curve, I don't think you go back. So we didn't quite have that same kind of adoption curve in Windows 7 versus XP before us.
This requires a little bit of training and I think people are attracted to touch and the touch price points today are still fairly high and they're coming down very rapidly over the next couple of quarters.
Got it. Thanks, Paul. And as my follow-up, Stacy, the buyback slowed down to, I think, about $500,000,000 in the last quarter. You were above 1,000,000,000 in plus in prior quarters. How should we think about buyback activity for this year?
How should we just think about overall use of cash for this year.
Yes. And as I think you know, we don't share prospectively the what we're planning to do with the buyback just as a matter of policy. What I can share with you is that our priorities are still the priorities that we've been talking about. It's invest in our business first. It's dividend second and I've shared with you the expectation that We won a dividend that's on the order of 40% of free cash flow and I think that's giving us a pretty good dividend yield today.
And then buybacks we use to is the other way to return cash to shareholders and to modulate cash balance. And so what you can take from less buybacks is just that I'm comfortable with the cash balances.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Stacy Rasgon of Sanford and Bernstein. Your line is now open.
Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Somebody or you spoke before about your increased confidence now versus last year. But if I'm just looking over the, I guess, last 3 months, we have weaker results in Q1, which raises the operational bar for the second half on both Which suggests you're even more confident in that back half ramp than you were 3 months ago, even in the wake of what looks to be pretty challenging market data. You're also taking CapEx down though, which would belie that increased confidence somewhat.
I was just wondering, can you help me identify, I guess, the sources of that increased confidence in that back half ramp versus where you were 3 months ago as well as help me rationalize that with the CapEx outlook.
Sure.
And first of all, just to make sure I'm not overstoking things here, You really just need seasonal from where we are in order to achieve the low single digit revenue growth. So I don't think we have a usually high bar out there and I went through the section of where I think the revenue comes from. In terms of the things that give me confidence That or at least I personally believe it could be better than seasonal is improving macroeconomic environment, things we talked about improving macroeconomic environment. It's the fact that we now are participating across a range of compute devices and so the mix between those don't impact us Nearly as much. And then third, as Paul said, you have innovative form factors coming out in Ultrabooks and Convertibles and Detachables that are hitting these really compelling mainstream price points that are touch enabled.
And As we get into the Christmas selling season, I think our expectation is you will see touch enabled ultra books that are $4.99 $5.99 pretty commonly out there. Dollars 5.99 commonly and $4.99 is kind of special SKUs. And then we'll see because of Baytrail coming into the marketplace, you'll see touch enabled thin notebooks with really good performance that are hitting kind of $300 price points. And then with our Android tablets, you'll see things that are Significantly, half that. So we're participating across this broad range of compute devices as we get into the back half of this year.
Got it. That's helpful. For my follow-up, I wanted to dig a little bit into the, I guess, the trajectory of your fab output. It sounds to me like your current plan for loading is similar to what you had last quarter, which was I think full fabs in the second half. It almost sounds like you may be running close to full right now.
What does that mean for, I guess your expectations for how much your fab may grow in 2014 year over year given I would think you anticipate running full in 2014 and we were pretty lean in the first part of 2013. Would double digit upside be the right way to think about that in terms of fab output and how much of that increase might be inventory replenishment versus I guess demand upside?
I think it's early to talk about 2014 at this point. We have the ability to respond to lots of different volume scenarios for 2014. If it's large, we can put on more capacity. If it ends up being less robust, We can play the playbook we played.
We've also got the technology transition to the 14 nanometer.
So it's
up to a first order. All of our spending is focused on 14 nanometer which gives us a fairly significant ramp capability. If demand for older products exceeds what we could build on 2014, we could still build 2022 for quite some time. So I don't I really think It depends on whatever demand scenario you see out there. In any event, the most important thing for us is to make that transition to 2014 and continue to have the leading edge.
And I understand that. Just mathematically though, if I'm running full in 2014 and I was pretty empty in the 1st part of 2013, even if you're not adding a tremendous amount of capacity, Doesn't that imply a very significant uptick in your fab output in 'fourteen versus 'thirteen? 'thirteen is flattish to 'twelve and in 'twelve we already had too much, Right. I'm just trying mathematically what does it imply if you're running full in 2014 even if you don't add anything?
We haven't talked about 2014.
Yes. And I think what your equation misses there is that we roll forward capacity. We take capacity offline. And so think of the change in CapEx at a first approximation of We took older generation technology offline a little faster than we thought and we offset stuff that we were going to buy to make the transition and to build towards 14 nanometer peak. We don't actually have to choose the 14 nanometer peak today.
We can continue to refresh capital.
I understand. I'm just saying if you're full in 2014 and you're not full for 2013, how much does how much would your output go out? I'm forgetting transitions in 14 nanometers and CapEx, Just on a rough basis, how much are we talking about in terms of increase?
If we're running full in 2014, I mean, I'm not how to answer that question because I don't yet know how much capacity we're going to put in place for 2014.
Yes Stacy, I think at that point we'll want to move on to the next question or we'll be
happy Okay.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Doug Friedman of RBC. Your line is now open.
Hi, Stacy and Paul. Thanks for taking my question. And Paul, congrats on next phase of your life. In the past, when you looked at Intel, you were successful because your customers were successful. And right now, I think it's general perception that the PC ecosystem is really not in the greatest state of health.
What is it that you think Intel can do to try to make your customers more successful in the marketplace?
I think continue to give them the tools to innovate. And I wouldn't paint the entire customer base with the same brush that you just did Doug. Certainly, if you look just at last quarter even inside the PC space, Lenovo outperformed everybody else and actually had a very good year on year set of numbers in a down year. Apple continues to do well. Subsets of customers in different segments are also doing very well in terms of say those providing products into the Internet data centers.
What I See when we look out is a tremendous amount of innovation, particularly at the ODM and Taiwanese OEM side where The ability to miniaturize and bring things into extremely thin form factors is really As revolutionary amount of changes I've seen in my time in this industry. And so I think what we can do is give them the product Caswell and Baytrail to innovate around. We can help them with other feature sets like voice and speech that go around them and just help them build better products.
When I look at as my follow-up to that, when we look at sort of what we're seeing Intel do strategically that is investing in things side of what we call core PC. How do I try to quantify how big an investment you're willing to make in things such as the set top box or in the foundry efforts or other areas of revenue that the companies are seeking?
Well, I don't look at things quite that with that level of granularity. I mean, I think that in the foundry thing that the investment is really going to be taking advantage at least near term with the current customer base of capacity that we're already putting in place. That doesn't mean that at some point We won't have to actually build extra capacity for a foundry customer, the foundry business. But today Up to this point, it's certainly within our ability to absorb. The set top box spending or the stuff we're doing in Intel Media in the grand scheme of things is not a lot of spending.
So the real issue is inside of our core microprocessor and platform development. And we're at the point now where roughly half of our spending
is focused on system on chip
inside the microprocessor world. And the system on ship environment is really a lot of the ultra mobile products. It's the phones, it's the tablets, it's embedded systems, it's automotive etcetera where we have fairly strong growth opportunities. So it's not the same monolithic TikTok model that we put in place 8 years ago.
Great. Thanks for the color.
Operator, we'll go ahead and
take 2 more questions.
Certainly, our next question comes from Joseph Moore of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Great. Thank you. My question is on the commentary that the pipeline inventory replenishment will be a driver for slightly higher than seasonal Q2. Is that can you put some perspective on that? It seems like you normally have new products in Q2, you normally have strength in Q3.
Is there the current inventory level lean or just how should
we view that inventory Well, I think inventory levels generally are lean everywhere we look. We saw an inventory burn in the broader pipeline in Q1. And our inventory levels are down more than I expected when I started So I think inventory levels are lean. And I also want to put it in perspective, you're talking a minor difference being up 3% quarter on quarter is kind of well within Q1 to Q2 seasonality. I don't think there's any one big driver there.
I do think we'll see people putting in place some Haswell based systems in anticipation of the second half selling season just as they burned inventory on some of the older generation systems in the Q1.
Great. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I understood that. And then In terms of Ultrabook, last year you had given pretty precise targets on where you wanted that to come out as a percentage of consumer notebooks. To the extent that you're willing to talk about it, can you give us any kind of qualitative assessment of where you think those penetration numbers will go this year and any kind of goals or targets that you may have?
I think what's interesting is what we're seeing in that there's a market for Ultrabooks And it's a sizable market. I mean, if you look at Gartner data, it's growing robustly. But there's this reinvention going on just broadly across the notebook. And we're seeing now the percent of thin and light notebooks in Relative to the total notebook market, they're kind of in the order of a third of the market, which and I think that grows from here as we hit price point. So I think the reinvention of the form factor is well underway.
Some of those are going to be more premium ultrabooks with touch and then new form factors of convertibles and detachables. A big chunk of that is going to be that wedge of volume behind that, which are thin and light touch enabled notebooks that aren't categorized as ultrabook, all of that is good for us.
Great. Thank you very much.
Thanks, Joe. And Stanley, if you would
go ahead and introduce our last question.
Our final question comes from Timothy Arcuri of Cowen and Company. Your line is now open.
Hi, thanks. I wanted to ask a question about the mix between bricks and mortar and any equipment spending. You had said before When you had guided core CapEx minus the 4 50 millimeter spending of 11 flat, you said that the equipment portion would be up pretty sizably year over year. So since you cut $1,000,000,000 out of that, will the equipment portion still be up or is it now down?
I haven't looked at that, Matthew. You're right. The way I characterized it, we spent about 40% of our CapEx in 2012 on equipment. That percentage came down in 2013. More of the cut to CapEx was equipment and realignment of space.
So I'd have to go back and look at the math and that's something we would typically share with you in the November investor meeting to just kind of give you a sense of where is the CapEx going and then some color commentary over the next couple of years.
Okay, great. And then just second thing, you just gave some price points for touch enabled notebooks that I look back at my notes and you were previously saying $5.99 to $7.99 for touch enabled notebooks. And now from what you just said, I think you were saying that you're going to have some at $499,000,000 with line of sight down to $300,000,000 That's quite a bit lower. So I'm wondering, did something change because
at those price points you get
a much different demand
No, hang on. You separate Ultrabook versus notebook.
But you said touch enabled notebook.
Yes. I understand. So we have a Certain spec for Ultrabooks and that is the product that Stacy said is going to be centered as low as 599 with some burst SKUs to If you look at touch enabled Intel based notebooks that are ultra thin and light using non core processors, Those prices are going to be down to as low as $200 probably.
And I'd say that the big change over the last 12 months There is that Baytrail is going to be a great product in that segment of the market. We think it enables stunning performance relative to what the competition can bring and it's going to enable these price points. And I'd say a year ago, we didn't really have line of sight to hitting that today we're cleanly there.
Thanks a lot.
You're welcome. Thank you.
All right. Thank you, Sami, and thank you all for joining us today. Sami, please go ahead
and wrap up the call.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude today's program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great