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Earnings Call: Q2 2010

Jul 13, 2010

Speaker 1

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Q2 2010 Intel Corporation Earnings Conference Call. My name is Chastity, and I will be your coordinator for today. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr. Kevin Sellars, VP of Investor Relations. Please proceed, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Chastity, and welcome, everyone, to Intel's Q2 2010 Earnings Conference Call. I'm joined today by Paul Ottolini, our President and CEO and Stacy Smith, our Chief Financial Officer. A few important items before we begin. We posted our earnings release, CFO commentary and updated financial statements to our investor website intc.com for anyone who still needs access to that information. Also, if during this call, we use any non GAAP financial measures or references, we will post the appropriate GAAP Financial reconciliations to our website, intc.com.

Following some brief prepared remarks from both Paul and Stacy, we'll take questions. As we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it and as such does include risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our press release for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. I also want to remind you of our annual Intel Developers Forum scheduled for September 13 through 15 in San Francisco and hope to see many of you there. With that, let me now hand it

Speaker 3

over to Paul. Thanks, Kevin. In Q2, Intel posted its best quarterly results ever as the economies of the world continue to reflect renewed economic momentum. Intel growth continues to run ahead of economic growth, reflecting what we believe is a fundamental shift driven by Internet adoption. Our 2nd quarter was up 5% from Q1 versus a seasonal norm of down 2%.

In addition to continuing year over year growth in the consumer segments, this quarter we benefited from a broad based return of the enterprise and Small Business Segments. Our server business had a record quarter showing strong sequential unit growth and strength from customers opting for richer configurations that drove an improved mix within the server category. The return on investment that our new server offerings deliver is extremely compelling and is a major reason for the strong demand we are experiencing. One example of the surging demand for servers is in the IP Data Center segment, which grew 170% over Q2 of last year. As Internet traffic continues to boom, the cloud build out is accelerating in order to keep pace.

In addition to servers, We also saw companies, including small businesses, refreshing their PCs. Like servers, this too was broad based and was an important driver of improving product mix within our PC business last quarter. Our Adam business also performed very well, growing 16% sequentially. 2 important drivers were responsible. First, there was an inventory correction in Q1 that is now normalized.

And second, we introduced dual core versions of Adam, which helped drive incremental demand and improve our mix within the Adam category. Since launching the Adam processor 2 years ago, We've shipped approximately 75,000,000 atoms and we still expect the industry to ship around 40,000,000 netbooks this year. In terms of global demand for PCs, many third party analysts are now projecting annual unit growth of around 20%. Our plans are consistent with this number. For the last 5 quarters, we have seen PC sales driven by consumer purchases, particularly notebooks.

This trend is continuing. And in Q2, we saw a return of corporate purchases that offset seasonal and geographic patterns in the Consumer segment. Our outlook for the year remains robust and we are planning for a seasonal second half. One quick word about the status of inventories. Across the supply chain, we are very comfortable with the levels of inventory.

In the channel, we saw a marked decline in inventories As currency volatility caused distributors to cut back on orders, so inventories in the channel are very lean. As for inventories on our balance sheet, the increase was both conscious and important. Over 100% of the increase was from Leading edge 32 nanometer processors in anticipation of a seasonally stronger second half. At our Investor Day back in May, we talked a lot about the advantages we have with an integrated business model of both product design and manufacturing. Those advantages were very evident in our 2nd quarter financial results.

Our product costs continued to decline very nicely And when combined with the innovative product lineup we have developed, we are able to enjoy healthy financial returns. Our process technology is and will continue to be a very important source of differentiation and earnings power for the company. In closing, I want to mention our upcoming product family code named Sandy Bridge. Last quarter, I mentioned that we were broadly sampling this product to our customers. I am more excited about Sandy Bridge than I have been in any product that the company has launched in a number of years.

Due to the very strong reception of Sandy Ridge, we have accelerated our 32 nanometer factory ramp and have raised our CapEx guidance to enable us to meet the anticipated demand. We look forward to seeing many of you at our September IDF Conference in San Cisco, where we will share more details about this new architecture. With that, let me turn the meeting over to Stacy.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Paul.

Speaker 5

Our leadership product portfolio across servers, notebooks, netbooks and desktops, Coupled with our best ever platform unit costs and a growing PC and server end market led to our best ever results. Revenue, Gross margin, operating profit and earnings per share were all records. Revenue of $10,800,000,000 was up 34% from a year ago and gross margin of 67% was up 4 points from the Q1. Operating profit rose to $4,000,000,000 and as a percent of revenue reached 37%. The improvements we have made in our productivity can be seen in revenue per employee of $134,000 also our best ever.

Our financial results in the Q2 were a result of a strong product mix with the continued ramp of our new 32 nanometer products. Microprocessor unit sales increased slightly above seasonal and average selling prices for microprocessors were up slightly quarter on quarter. All geographies performed better than normal seasonal patterns. The server market segment was particularly strong with customer demand for our new products leading to a richer mix. The Data Center Group achieved revenue of $2,100,000,000 and operating profit of $1,100,000,000 which was the first time operating profit exceeded $1,000,000,000 in this segment.

2nd quarter gross margin of 67% was higher than our expectation due to higher platform revenue and better than expected costs. The factory network delivered our lowest ever platform cost while accelerating the 32 nanometer process technology ramp as customers continue to demand a richer mix of our latest generation microprocessors. We generated approximately $3,500,000,000 of cash flow from operations in the 2nd quarter. Total cash investments grew by $1,400,000,000 to approximately $18,000,000,000 We paid nearly $900,000,000 in dividends and purchased over $1,000,000,000 in capital assets. Additionally, we increased total inventories by $350,000,000 The midpoint of our forecast for the 3rd quarter is $11,600,000,000 The forecasted revenue increase of 8% in the 3rd quarter is slightly below the average seasonal increase.

We are forecasting the midpoint of the gross margin range to be flat to the 2nd quarter at 67%. For 2010, we are forecasting a record annual gross margin with the midpoint of our annual forecast increasing from 64% to 66%. At our May Investor Day meeting, we reviewed how we have transformed the company's cost structure. The 2nd quarter demonstrates the powerful financial results that can be generated when leadership products and a world class cost structure are coupled with an overall healthy end market. Our business was strong in the first half and our forecast for the rest of the year is that the second half is seasonally stronger and that the strength of our product portfolio and our cost structure will allow us to achieve our most profitable year ever.

With that, let me turn it back over to Kevin.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thanks, Paul and Stacy. We'll now move to Q and A. And as has been our So Chastity, please introduce our first questioner.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Ucha Orji with UBS.

Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Paul, let me just start off by asking you about the comments you made about distribution and inventory channel. Given all the currency upheaval, have we seen any pickup now, with especially in Europe, which has been quite a concern for some people? Any commentary as to where how you see things tracking now in the Q3 within the distribution channel for inventory? Well,

Speaker 3

so far so good. I mean, we gave guidance to a very robust 3rd quarter. As Stacy said, it was basically seasonal or just slightly below The midpoint of seasonality, we don't see any inventory issues out there. The prices in Europe, obviously, On a euro basis, it would be up slightly. But what we're seeing is people are altering configurations as they free up the cash to build these machines.

Distributors principally build the machines to order. Some SKUs are less memory configuration, some are taking discrete graphics out Just to try to keep the price points constant in the channel in net

Speaker 6

retail. Just one follow-up. On the Artem, I mean, one of the Question has been around if you look at tablet PCs now starting to take off and whether that will cannibalize netbooks. Just as you look at this category and look at it vis a vis netbooks, two questions here. How do you see the net impact and how do you see the positioning of Atombody in this category?

Speaker 3

Well, I think we're in the early stages of tablets, obviously. There's just one really shipping in volume today. At this point, my view, it hasn't really hasn't changed in the last quarter or so. I think this is an additive category of computing, much like netbooks were an additive Hey, Chastity, are you there?

Speaker 1

Yes, sir. I'm actually showing that it's coming from the participants line on our end.

Speaker 2

Okay. All right. It looks like it's done. We'll keep going.

Speaker 3

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Uteil. Let me start again. I haven't changed my view on tablets in the last 3 or 4 months Since the launch of the iPad, I think they are an additive category to the market, much like we saw netbooks being additive. Netbooks, in fact, had a higher potential to cannibalize and they didn't. I don't see tablets cannibalizing the PC market.

I think people used it for different kinds of reasons. In terms of Intel participating in the tablet market, we remain very optimistic about this. At Computex last month, there were over 30 Varieties of tablets shown based upon Atom configurations. The advantage of obviously Intel in this segment As you can run a number of operating systems, you can run Windows, you can run Android, you can run Chrome and you can run MIGO or the other versions of Linux. So we feel pretty good about our opportunity to participate in the growth as it happens.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Uche. At Chesky, we'll take the next question.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 3

Yes, congrats on the strong results. One question on the inventory on your own balance sheets. It was up about 12% sequentially. Can you give us a little color on units versus dollars?

Speaker 5

Sure. This is Stacy. I'll be happy to. It was both. We got some units in place on 32 nanometer.

That was our strategy. It's also as we're seeing those first wafers coming out of the first couple of factors on 32 nanometer, it tends to be just a little bit more expensive inventory. So both units and Dollars per unit were up and dollars were up some. If I just kind of talk about inventory now as we go forward, the inventory that we have in place Is appropriate relative to where we are in the 32 nanometer ramp and relative to how we see demand in the second half. And I expect it Flatten out as we get into the second half of this year.

It should be pretty flat in the 3rd quarter as we go forward.

Speaker 3

And then one follow-up on the pricing side Specific to the server side, I guess with the data center group up as strongly as it was in the Halem EX shipping, I would think that the pricing could have been up 8%, 10% in that segment. Is that mix dynamic? Is my assumption on that correct? And am I in the ballpark in the pricing side?

Speaker 5

Yes. It's a level of granularity we're not going to go through. We definitely saw the mix better in servers, and We saw the mix better in servers and that led to ASP positive impact. And then we also saw that server as a percent of the total business was higher. They had a very good quarter and so we saw a little bit of a mix just based on More server shipments relative to everything else.

Those two things both led to the mix good news we saw in the quarter.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Pitzer with Credit Suisse.

Speaker 7

Yes, congratulations guys. Maybe a follow-up on the ASP question. Stacy, you've been guiding Future gross margin most of the year under the assumption of kind of normal price declines. I'm kind of curious when you look at the 67% guidance for September than the full year guidance of Are you expecting kind of normal historical price decline? Did you think you'll continue to see the positive mix that you kind of seen in the 1st couple of quarters?

Speaker 5

Well, I think you can really see that in the fact that from last quarter, I came up from 64% to 66% for the year Almost all of that is associated with the impact I just talked about. It's just a richer mix of products than I was expecting. The other thing I'll point you to is in my Q2 to Q3 margin walk, which I can go through for you if you want, ASP isn't one of the drivers. So you can kind of get a sense there that I'm not expecting it to It'd be a big driver as we go into

Speaker 8

the Q3.

Speaker 7

And I guess as my follow-up, Paul, as you think about second half revenue being seasonal And your product portfolio, I'd be kind of curious if you kind of break it down to 3 big buckets, client versus server, consumer versus corporate and then sort of the desktop notebook Adam, bucket, which one of those can you talk a little bit about what you expect to be better than seasonal? Maybe you're expecting any seasonal softness anywhere?

Speaker 3

We're not planning for any seasonal softness. And when I told you we were endorsing 20% as a planning number, it's hard to find any softness in a 20% year on year number, right? Let me try and give you some granularity though. Clearly, We said for some time when we showed you at the analyst meeting that something like 70% of our business is consumer on a worldwide basis and some of that small business built into that. I don't see that shifting.

So I think that level of participation in the consumer segments will be reflected and will be seasonal 1st half versus second half, I don't see a change there. I think it will continue to be driven by notebooks, and I think servers will continue to be strong if I had to guess this point in time, I see no reason not to. There's 2 trends inside the server movement. 1 is the Capacity needs coming off the Internet data center build out, and I gave you some data on that as part of my commentary. And the other is the return on investment That you can get in enterprise data centers by swapping out old versus new equipment in terms of both capacity and power savings, electricity cost savings.

I think those are very big drivers this year that are going to be overlaid on top of this. The last comment I'd make on your question was on Adam, Which is I really don't see the I gave you my number for the year for netbooks. I don't see that part of the Adam business taking off much higher than it already is. It's Good year on year growth. I think the growth in Adam over the course of the new growth in Adam this year is going to be in embedded and in products like The Google TV products that were launched last month, we didn't talk about that in the last conference call because it wasn't announced yet, but I can tell you that a number of companies are now Moving towards production on atom based television, set top boxes, DVD players and so forth around that particular construct.

And to me, that is one of the bigger things to watch for the holiday season as those products break market and see what happens.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gus Richard with Piper Jaffray.

Speaker 8

Yes, congratulations on a good quarter. Just could you talk a little bit about the you said that you saw strength regionally everywhere. Were there any areas like Europe that was weak or Brazil or China that was particularly strong?

Speaker 3

Well, every geography was up above our seasonal norm, Right. And so at least in terms of Intel revenue, we don't have all the sales out data yet. We've got 2 months of it. But the trends so far that are on a year on year basis, everything was up. And in particular, on the commercial or enterprise side of the business.

In terms of China, It was a little slow going early in the quarter and it got good towards the end, similar in Europe. We had the volcano in the beginning and some currency Disturbances and volatility in the middle and things settled down in both geographies by the end of the quarter. The net was year over year, Everything was nicely up.

Speaker 5

If I may add, you can see it in the results. We saw particular strength enterprise segment and if you look at the geographic breakdown, you see that Americas and Europe were both The best in terms of seasonality and that's just because they have a larger component of those markets are large companies in enterprise segment. So the enterprise strength really helped drive those results.

Speaker 8

And then on the enterprise segment, you are definitely beginning to See the beginning uptake of a corporate upgrade cycle, of an enterprise upgrade cycle on the client side?

Speaker 3

It appears that way. I mean, we've moved some time that this phenomena had to happen, that the machines were just costing more to keep on the books Than they were worth, in terms of out of warranty and repairs and those kinds of things and the desire the strong desire to upgrade to Win 7. So I think now that corporations have some breathing room in the economy and their budgets, you're starting to see that those machines that are 4 5 years old Get refreshed. I can't comment on the rate of refresh. My sense is you're going to see sort of 1 year every year for the next couple of years, But that will be an accelerant.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Glenn Young with Citi.

Speaker 9

Thanks. Either Paul or Stacy, if we talk to, for example, the notebook ODMs about their outlook for the 3rd quarter, They're talking about a below seasonal forecast and you guys are below but just slightly. Any way to reconcile the difference in those Two views is it perhaps what you're seeing in corporate relative to what they may be building?

Speaker 3

Well, what I'll tell you is our numbers is what we're This is the data that we have inside the company and data from our backlog and what our customers are asking us for. So I don't know that any of the our customers have yet commented publicly on the Q3. They'll do that when they do their earnings and no one's announced yet. So I don't know that there's an anomaly at this point.

Speaker 9

Okay, fair enough. Thanks for that. And then second question really revolves around 32 nanometer, you make the point that you're accelerating it, but maybe a sense. First of all, obviously, I think it's faster than your expectations. What do you expect mix of 32 nanometer to be relative to prior expectations in the second half of the year?

And then what will the mix be relative to the first half of the year?

Speaker 3

Well, it depends on how prior you want to go, right? We are building more 32 in the second half than we had planned, say, 6 months ago. We're also building more 45 in the second half than we planned 6 months ago. The net result is that we will have more 45 longer than we first thought, Even though 32 is going faster and bigger than we first thought. The basic answer here is that the market is bigger than we had first Done planning on for the year.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Christopher Damley with JPMorgan.

Speaker 8

Hey, thanks guys. A question for Stacy. So Stacy, you told us that inventory would be up this quarter.

Speaker 3

Was it up

Speaker 8

any more than you originally thought it would be? And what does that mean for your utilization rates in the

Speaker 5

And as we showed at the investor meeting, we're in the range where we're kind of in that We spot a loadings. The factories are nicely loaded. We're getting a great cost out of them. We have the ability to do a bit of upside. As Paul said in his Written remarks, the place where we're accelerating a bit here is getting some more 32 nanometer capacity in place In the second half in anticipation of the demand for Sandy Bridge based on what we're hearing from the customers as they get to kick the tires of that product line.

So I think we're healthy from a utilization standpoint and I'm comfortable with where we are from an inventory standpoint in the Q2.

Speaker 8

Great. And if things do end up Slowing down in the second half of the year, what would the reaction be from you guys? Would you start to hit the brakes? Or would you just treat it as a

Speaker 5

I think the best way to answer that question is to look at what happened when we got hit by the kind of massive downturn of 2,009. When that hit, the supply chain across the industry reacted very quickly, much more quickly than they have in prior cycles. We took aggressive action to Reduce the loading in our factories to not put inventory in place and then we took advantage of that to roll forward some of the capacity we had on 45 to offset some of the investment that we knew had to make on 32, which drove a great capital efficiency number. So I'd expect if you get into The case where we get hit with another big recessionary kind of scenario like we saw last year, the reaction would be very similar to that.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Wong with Wells Fargo.

Speaker 10

Thank you very much. Paul, you mentioned that you were very excited about And this was one of the reasons for accelerating 32 nanometers. Does this mean that you're planning to bring out Sandy Bridge earlier than scheduled? And when might we expect to see first launches of systems that have Sandy Bridge in them?

Speaker 3

Well, we'll talk more about the product in a lot of detail at In terms of product granularity, I really don't want to get more granular than we have been, which is that we will ship Sandy Bridge for revenue this year late this year.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks. And further on the CapEx question, When you have higher CapEx this year, does that represent a pull in from 2011 reducing what might otherwise have been spent in 2011 or is it just extra spending?

Speaker 5

Yes, that's the right way to think about it. Although we haven't put a forecast out for 2011 yet, so you don't know how to do the plus or minus to that. But to just Piggyback on what Paul said, based on what we're hearing on Sandy Bridge, we're now anticipating a faster ramp of the product. So some of the capital that I thought we could spend in the first half of next year, we're going to put in place now so that we can ramp the product out of the chute faster than we anticipated. So it should be Plus this year and a bit of a minus to next year.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jim Cavallo with Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks very much for taking the question, guys, and congratulations on the terrific results. Paul, you mentioned both in Europe In China, some hesitation at the beginning of the quarter and then things kind of returned to more normal levels at the end of the quarter. How much of that do you think was sort of normal seasonal trend versus Kind of macro disruption and do you see what kind of seasonal trends on a shorter term basis do you see during the Q3?

Speaker 3

It's hard to tell, Jim. My sense is that, I mean, you had 2 different things going you had 3 things going on. In Europe, you had The volcano and then the debt crisis. And in China, mid quarter, you had the change in the housing stance, which Dampened down GDP a bit. I think all of those are being worked through now.

I mean, to me, if you look through that through the lens of that smoke, What you see is computers are important, independent of the economy cycle. It happened all last year, To the surprise of many, and it's happening now. And the difference now is that corporations Are buying in addition to consumers. Computers are fundamental to people's lives nowadays.

Speaker 8

And then if I for my follow-up, if I could ask relative to the enterprise strength, do you have any way Estimating at all, how much of that is share gain versus overall market strength?

Speaker 3

Not for a week or so. But my sense is it's principally the market growing year on year so much faster and then Intel taking perhaps a Slightly larger share, but the bulk of it is market growth. Remember a year ago in servers, it was still pretty dark.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tim Luke with Park Place Capital.

Speaker 11

Thanks so much.

Speaker 4

Paul, I was wondering, after delivering such a strong quarter, with the chipsets Being lower sequentially while guiding obviously fairly close to normal seasonal going forward. The chipsets in the past have been So the PCA as seen as a leading indicator, can you just give some commentary with respect to that and how you might expect to see that Going forward and after such a big first half, people might have thought you might have a slightly less than seasonal second half, but clearly, you're Saying we don't really expect that and what's your gut on that?

Speaker 3

Well, we had a very robust Q1 on chipsets. In the Q2, it was very good. I mean, our chipset shipments in Q2 always run No, not always. Normally run, ahead of our microprocessors because of the cycle for back to school. That happened this quarter as well.

But even inside that, I don't see any cutting back. I mean, there's some each OEM has their own strategy, Tim. Some are Accelerating the use of ocean because they want to lower costs. Some are accelerating the use of air because they want flexibility. And I think that as it all integrates, We don't see a chipset bump in either direction as a leading indicator here at this time.

It's just it's mostly normal.

Speaker 4

As a follow-up then, it seems there's a lot of focus on the inventory issue and you're saying it's much lower in the channel. On hand, it's at 86 days, which is at the upper end of the normal range. Last quarter, you said part of that was reflected in just more 32 nanometer in the inventory Bank on hand, can you just comment on that and why it is at this what appears to be the upper end of your normal level, Stacy? Thanks a lot.

Speaker 5

Sure.

Speaker 11

It's normal for us as

Speaker 5

we go through a significant transition as we're going through on 32 nanometer products to have to put some inventory in place in advance of those ramps, in particular, as we look into the demand of the second half. So Yes. Just to maybe help you a little bit in terms of how to think about it. If you go back to mid-two 1000 and 8, which was the last time that's when we were going through the 45 Nanometer transition. We had a similar amount of inventory in place.

Our business levels at that time, so Q2 of 2,008 was of like $1,300,000,000 less than our business levels today. So when you look at it in that Context, it says we're still running pretty healthy appropriate level of inventory given the 32 nanometer transition and the level of demand that we're seeing.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Berger with FBR Capital Markets.

Speaker 12

Hey, guys. Congratulations on the extremely strong results. I guess, my first question It is on the sustainability of your gross margins. When I talk to people out there, your investors, they say, How sustainable are these margins and why? And I know you recently increased your normal range to 55% to 65%, and now you're guiding ahead of that.

So how do we think about the sustainability here? Thanks.

Speaker 5

I think we shared a lot Back in May about the transformation that we've gone through and our cost structure, our capital efficiency, the improvements we've made in some of our memory businesses, Overall cost per unit. That data still is what I stand behind. I think we have moved the gross margin range for the company up. We're at a period of time right now because of our specific product mix that we're a bit above that. You tend to have a few quarters above.

You'll have some that are below. But as we look across the rest of this year, we're at 67% in Q2. I'm forecasting 67% for Q3. And frankly, I'd expect to be in that range in the 4th quarter as well. When you do that, Matt, that's how you get to 66% for the year.

Speaker 12

The follow-up question is that Europe has been running at about $7,000,000,000 a year in revs and the downturn It's only going to do about 5 to 5.5 this year if you run rate it. I mean is a macro correction already baked in To that European consumption number in your opinion, could there actually be upside opportunities there? How much risk To forward demand deterioration, can we see?

Speaker 5

Yes, it's really important. You're not looking at consumption there. What you're looking at is our billings. And you've seen a couple of secular shifts in Europe that is causing the billings number to decline, which you have to keep separate The overall consumption market, one is the shift to notebooks means that more of the product is being built outside of Europe and imported in. So that's one of the big drivers and that's probably the largest.

The second is that the multinationals We're taking some share against the smaller players and again that's as they build in many cases outside of Europe and then import the product into Europe. So have to separate that from the strength of the end markets.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Lipacis with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 13

Thanks for taking my question. First question, correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is that historically, When you guys went through a process node transition, you'd build inventory of older products and then switched over. And that Often translated into risk and maybe some inventory write downs. And this time it seems like you're Building inventories of the newer products.

So I guess my question is, is my was my recollection of history wrong? Or is there something different with your business process

Speaker 5

No, you're not wrong, but it's there's 2 shoes to this story. So the first is We do try to build a little bit of inventory on the older products in advance of the process technology ramp. And then based on how fast we're now ramping The new products and across a very wide range of different price points and different products within a product family, We also try to get some inventory in place on the new stuff, so we do both.

Speaker 13

Okay, fair enough. The follow-up is, if I look over time on the microprocessor ASP, the erosion is Followed something like a 6% annual ASP erosion. The one time you bucked that trend, I think, was when you introduced where you could argue you're delivering more functionality, so you can take the price up. Is there are you guys of the opinion that You take yourself off that 6% annual ASP erosion. Are your products coming out with Accelerated functionality, be it power, better power or some or processing capabilities that Can take you off at 6% ASP erosion?

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Well, you're right. It really is all about mix at the end of the day. And to some extent, Centrino was about up mixing to mobile in the early days. What you're seeing now, we're very, very happy with the Launch, ramp and product acceptance in the market of the core i357 series that launched in January that has become Kind of the mainstream of desktops and notebooks now and that brand momentum has really given is part of our the lift you see in terms of selling up from Pentium or Celeron. I think that as we move into the second half and into next year, it's the same kind of thing.

We will continue to use technology, Feature driven technology to put platform ingredients together that we think will command a premium. And when that happens, it's good for Intel and it's good for our customers And ultimately good for the buyers of the technology.

Speaker 2

And if I may

Speaker 5

just add, as we've shown you several times, it becomes really important to start looking at ASP and margin per segment of the business. And what we're seeing right now is that in the high end segment of the business, we're doing really well. We're getting paid for those features. I think if you think about our business over a long period of time, what you've seen is that Emerging markets have grown more quickly than the rest of the business. The consumer market has grown, to be a very large percentage of our business.

And so Over time, there's that mix effect that does bring pricing down. And so the key for us is to be able to bifurcate our cost structure So that in each of those segments of the business, we can deliver a very compelling product margin. And I think you're really seeing that play out right now in our business. We've got Strong features at the high end. We've got a great cost structure for emerging markets and for the less feature driven consumer segment of the market, and that all helps us Achieve 67% gross margin in the Q2.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stacy Rasgon with Sanford Bernstein.

Speaker 14

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So let's take a look at in that gross margin guidance for Q3. It looked to be on mostly on higher revenue, which was offset By more of your inventory write offs up from Sandy Bridge. Just given what you've said about what looks to be hopefully a building enterprise recovery into the 2nd half.

Would it be out of line to maybe even see the potential for some further mix related upside to gross margins in the back half? It doesn't look like your guidance is anything like that.

Speaker 5

Yes, let me just walk you through the Q3 gross margin and also give you a little color commentary on Q4, so you can get a sense of Yes, what I'm going for that. But as you said for as we go from Q2 to Q3, based on the Midpoint of the revenue guidance that we just set, we'd expect about 0.5 point of gross margin good news associated with higher platform revenue. That's offset by about a point of inventory write offs for the Sandy Bridge product that's being built prior to qualification for sale. That's Yes, normal what we see in these product transitions. And then there's another half a point of relatively small items And just in an environment where our factories are running pretty full, where demand looks good and we don't have a lot of reserves and those kinds of things, you tend to see A lot of small things.

That will give me another 0.5. Of gross margin in my forecast, and that's what keeps me flat at 67%. Could it be higher? Sure. I'd be kind of foolish to say it couldn't based on the miss that we had in Q2.

Based on everything we know and the fact that Q3 tends to be a seasonally stronger consumer quarter, I think we're in the right And we'd have to have a pretty significant revenue miss based on ASP, for their gross margin to be higher. And likewise, if the markets fall apart on Could be a little bit lower, but this is our best information at this time.

Speaker 14

Got it. No, that's helpful. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 8

Well, I was going to take

Speaker 5

you to Q4, Yes, please. Okay. So just I'll do the traditional puts and takes as I go into Q4. Again, I'd expect it to be a seasonally Higher revenue quarter, so that's going to give me a little bit of a tailwind to gross margin. Assuming the qualification goes well for Sandy Bridge, which our history says is likely, we'll have some Write off good news in Q4, because we'll be selling some of that material because it's been disqualified for sale.

And then I have a bit of an offset to that Based on an increase in unit cost, and I'll take you back to what I showed in May at the investor meeting. If you recall, I showed a unit cost graph by quarter, and it showed a little bit of an uptick in Q4 and then more of an uptick in Q1 and Q2 due to the next big 32 nanometer factory coming online. It's a very large factory with a high Wafer capacity, the first wafers that come out of that factory are pretty expensive. So that gives me a bit of a mix up in cost. That's normal.

If you look at our history, every 2 years we see that. As we're pulling in 32 nanometer, I'm now expecting that cost impact to be a little more in Q4 and probably a bit less in Q1 and Q2. So that me a bit of a tailwind to gross margin. When I net all that out, I think I'm in kind of the same range as I was in Q2 actuals and my projection for Q3, I think I'm kind of still in that Basic

Speaker 14

range. That's helpful. Thank you very much. Sure. For my follow-up, I think the follow on that into 2011, just if you could give us a little more color on the 22 nanometer startup costs.

To my recollection, I believe those start to hit in the first half of twenty eleven. Number 1, is that correct? Secondly, can you give us some feeling for the I guess the amount of magnitude or basis points of margin impact that, that could have over the maybe the first half of twenty eleven?

Speaker 5

Sure. Actually, as opposed to taking time on the call, Waddi, just if you go back to the investor meeting materials, that still is My prediction of kind of the shape of start up costs and we actually broke it out by quarter for you so you can kind of get a sense Our best guess, it hasn't changed. And you're right, at a basic level, I'd expect it to start kicking in and accelerating in the first half of next year. It peaked in Q2 and then it comes down from there.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Doug Friedman with Gleacher and Company.

Speaker 15

Great. Thanks so much for taking my question guys and congrats again. Can you talk a little bit about what The uptick in server might mean in the enterprise market. And if you've seen in the past history when server strength was so strong, Is there sort of a follow through where the client will the enterprise will start spending more on clients later?

Speaker 3

You're right. That has been a pattern in the past. It was the big enterprise apps and that drove a server upgrade and that drove ultimately a client upgrade. I don't think it's going to fly. It normally works that way, broadly works that way anymore, Doug.

My sense is now so many of the apps in the enterprise are web based And once you put the infrastructure in, that's not what drives it. What drives it is the new operating system environment on the client that will change that will drive an upgrade, A new class of applications where people are putting in some of the cloud based apps inside the enterprise And a new phenomenon that wasn't really true in the last couple of rounds of these things, which is the return on investment thesis around The energy and space savings, and that is really new. So I guess in the aggregate, I don't see that pattern It probably exists, but it's probably not the driver.

Speaker 15

All right, great. And if I could go back a little bit to sort of stability in the business model. I know there have been a few questions on this topic. But Stacy, can you focus in on I mean with these numbers that you're putting up, is it safe to assume that Your profit sharing plan is going to be sort of at a record high level and as growth flows into the next years that, that comes down to

Speaker 5

Well, it will seem anemic to those of you that work in the financial services industry. But yes, if you look at the Spending increase that we've now put out for the year, the largest single component of that is revenue and profit dependent. It just says our view of the year has just kind of improved quarter by quarter. It's more than half of the annual increase And it's really driving that spending increase from what we thought.

Speaker 3

And it applies to all employees, not a management driven Instead of dollars.

Speaker 5

Right. Yes, every employee participates in the plan and it's solely based on our earnings performance. And so as our view of the year improves, Our earnings performance plus the metrics that we have, but as our view of the year improves, then it pulls a few more dollars through.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sumit Danda with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Speaker 16

Yes, hi. A couple of questions. AC, the ASP is again benefiting you in the Q2. You're clearly not expecting a benefit in the second half of the year. But is there the potential that you continue to see a tailwind as there's more maturation into the transition to the core based platforms?

Speaker 8

Or is most of that benefit now reflected

Speaker 16

in your mix of Or is most of that benefit now reflected in your mix of processors?

Speaker 3

Yes. So I'd be foolish to

Speaker 5

say there's no possibility, given how my view The year has changed just over the last two quarters. I think when we started the year, we were at 61%. We're at 67%. That's just a phenomenal Gross margin for us. It's an all time record.

It just it says that we're doing a lot of things right from a cost standpoint and the market's participating along with us. Could we be a little bit better than it's going to be under calling it? I could, but my prediction is That, ASP is not a big driver one way or the other as we go into Q3. So you should take from that I'm not anticipating a big movement up or down. And Q3 does tend to be seasonally stronger in the consumer segment of the business.

And so you can kind of do the math on that.

Speaker 16

Okay. But I guess the question specifically was that how far along are you in terms of the benefit from the transition to the core platform Because that seems to have surprised you consistently over the last 2 or 3 quarters.

Speaker 5

You're kind of asking where are we in 32 nanometer in Bringing out the different products?

Speaker 16

Exactly.

Speaker 5

I'll probably kick that one over to Paul.

Speaker 3

It's still pretty much in the core family. We just we start we are Some Pentiums on 32 nanometers now. Most of the server products are on 32, but we won't take it down into Pentium and Celeron until By the late this year or early next year and of course the Adam products are on 32.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Gano with JMP Securities.

Speaker 17

Okay. First off, congratulations. You just crushed it. Nice job. I wonder if I could start by asking if you could characterize maybe how far into The Core I upgrade cycle are you and you just touched on 32 nanometer and where it's going, but how far into the conversion process are we from your perspective?

Speaker 3

I'm sorry, the conversion of our old core to our new core?

Speaker 17

Well, in terms of driving sales right now, are we benefiting from The mix being less than 50% getting towards 50%?

Speaker 7

Well,

Speaker 3

The premium part of our product line, the old core products, core Duo and those kinds of things and now the core IP57 It's not the majority of our units. If it was, we'd have margins in excess of what Stacy has been talking about, Right. So they tend to I won't give you the exact number, but it tends to be slightly less than 50%. And then we fill in the mix with other products in terms of price From Adam to Celeron to Pentium. And it's not so much a of course, we satisfy all the available demand from the top.

You naturally do that. So we believe we're satisfying demand. We are seeing a mix up, which is based upon the goodness of the products and the feature sets. And that's what we talked about last quarter and as part of the news this quarter. We anticipate a similar kind of embracing Sandy Bridge when that product comes out to keep that mix fairly rich.

Speaker 17

Okay. And you touched upon emerging markets, your ability to serve, I believe lower price points in emerging markets. And I was wondering if you could talk about maybe the appetite or the ability for you to upsell in some of those markets.

Speaker 3

Well, there's no monolithic market. If you look at China, the Tier 1 and to some extent now the Tier 2 cities, the markets there are as sophisticated in mix and purchasing knowledge As you get in the United States or Western Europe or even Japan. And it's when you get out into the places where The incomes are more constrained in Tier 3, 4, 5, 6 cities in China. So you start seeing that phenomena. And what we've done there is we've worked with our customers and with the distributor channel to produce products that we do.

We've done versions of ADAM based motherboards where the ADAM Chip is soldered onto the motherboard, so it becomes a very affordable unit of computing that meets those price points. So really there really is not a China market per se. The China market, if I look at the East Coast cities, is probably a richer mix than we sell in Manhattan.

Speaker 2

Hey, Chastity, we're going to take 2 more questions if we could.

Speaker 1

Certainly, sir. Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Stifel Nicolaus.

Speaker 11

Thanks for taking my question. I guess along those lines of the Adam chips, you had mentioned net books you think will ship about $40,000,000 this year. And I'm wondering what is your percentage outside of the net books for Adam? You had mentioned Google TV. When do you think that will become a significant portion of the Adam revenue?

Speaker 3

I think it start the non netbook Adam start moving the needle next year. I mean, there's probably products out this year, both in tablets and handsets and Google TV kinds of products, consumer electronics kind of products. The embedded actually, our growth in embedded Adam was significant this quarter, but it was still a fairly small number as embedded designs Take 2 years to get designed in and then they run for 3 or 4 years. So all these things start coming Flush out that family in terms of revenue, I think, in higher volume next year.

Speaker 11

Okay, thanks. And maybe just one other completely different topic. I'm Flash. Any decisions there on the CapEx spending?

Speaker 5

No. As we've articulated before on the call, We're doing a couple of things. One is we're continuing to drive the financial performance of the business. I think they executed great in the second quarter. We have process technology leadership.

We've got a great cost structure. The market seems pretty benign right now. So all of those things is helpful. We're making a little money in the business as opposed to losing money. That's nice.

And then we're taking a cautious view to the capacity addition. We're going to have to make the decision on our participation in Singapore sometime this year. We haven't made it yet and we continue To analyze it and look at it fairly cautiously.

Speaker 11

Okay. Thank you. Congratulations.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Berenbaum with Eureka USA.

Speaker 18

Hi, guys. Thanks for sneaking me in there.

Speaker 16

Just to

Speaker 18

follow-up a little bit on mix, I mean, it looks right now Data center is about 20% of sales. Do you think that as the server cycle plays out and as Mahalem continues penetration there, Do

Speaker 16

you have a target?

Speaker 18

Do you think that data center could go to 25% of sales? Or do you have some mixed number in mind?

Speaker 3

Well, I have a mixed number in mind. I'm not prepared to share it. But just to some extent, we don't look at it that way. I mean, I know you guys do because that's the easiest way to drive the math. But We look at it as what is the rate of growth of Internet traffic, what is the rate of growth of replacements and try to maximize That's server number for the obvious reasons and how what that is as a percent of the client revenue is really not something As the earlier question came to me earlier, it's not something that really is relevant anymore.

I think they're independent decisions.

Speaker 18

Well, let me maybe rephrase that. What do you think the growth rate of the data center is over the next, say, year, year and a half versus client?

Speaker 3

I'm comfortable saying I think we're strong double digits And I don't think I want to go more granular than that. But I gave you one really interesting fact in my commentary, 170% year on year growth in Internet data center Xeons, right? Those are the ones that go in Googles, Facebooks, Amazons, that kind of MSN, those kinds of things. That stuff is growing like a hose. And as people do more picture serving and more video serving, That's going to continue to grow.

So to some extent, you've got that triple digit growth in the Internet data centers and then you have to model out the ROI for

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you all for joining our call today. As a reminder, Our quiet period for the Q3 will begin at the close of business on Friday, August 27, and our 3rd quarter Earnings conference call is scheduled for Tuesday, October 12, 2010. Thank you and good night.

Speaker 1

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.

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