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Earnings Call: Q4 2017

Jan 25, 2018

Speaker 1

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Intel Corporation Q4 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Henninger, Head of Investor Relations.

Sir, you may begin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone, to Intel's 4th quarter 2017 earnings conference call. By now, you should have received a copy of our earnings release and the CFO earnings presentation, which replaces the CFO commentary that we previously used. If you've not received both documents, they're available on our investor website, intc.com. The CFO earnings presentation is also available via the webcast window for those joining us online. I'm joined today by Brian Krzanich, our CEO and Bob Swan, our Chief Financial Officer.

In a moment, we'll hear brief remarks from both of them followed by the Q and A. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussions contain forward looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it, and as such, does include risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our press release for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. A brief reminder that this quarter, we have provided both GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Today, we will be speaking to the non GAAP financial measures when describing our consolidated results.

CFO commentary and earnings release available on intc. Com include the full GAAP and non GAAP reconciliations. With that, let me hand it over to Brian.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Mark. 2017 was a record year for Intel and 4th quarter results were outstanding, well ahead of the forecast we outlined in October based on the strength of both our PC centric and data centric businesses. I'll review our results with you in just a moment. But before I do that, I'd like to share a few words about security. We've been working around the clock with our customers and partners to address the security vulnerabilities known as Spectre meltdowns.

While we've made progress, I'm acutely aware that we have more to do. We've committed to being transparent, keeping our customers and owners appraised of our progress and through our actions, building trust. Security is a top priority for Intel, foundational to our products, and it's critical to the success of our data centric strategy. Our near term focus is on delivering high quality mitigations to protect our customers' infrastructure from these exploits. We're working to incorporate silicon based changes to future products that will directly address the spectra and meltdown threats in hardware, and those products will begin appearing later this year.

However, these circumstances are highly dynamic, and we've updated our risk factors to reflect both the evolving nature of these specific threats and mitigation as well as the security challenge more broadly. Security has always been a priority for us and these events reinforce our continuous mission to develop the world's most secure products. This will be an ongoing journey, but we are committed to the task and I'm confident we're up to the challenge. To keep you informed, we've created a dedicated website and we're approaching this work with customer first urgency. I've assigned some of the very best minds at Intel to work through this, and we're making progress.

With that, let's turn to our 2017 Q4 results. We just wrapped up the best year in Intel's history with the best quarter in Intel's history. Revenue was up 4% year over year in the 4th quarter, 8% if you exclude McAfee, setting an all time record. Our data center, IoT and FPGA each set revenue records. We met or exceeded all of the financial commitments we made to you at the beginning of the year and our focus on efficiency and profitable growth produced significant leverage, driving non GAAP operating income up 21%.

Our data centric businesses deliver the technology foundations for the new data economy, making the analysis, storage and transfer of data possible, giving our customers the ability to turn data into amazing experiences and actionable insights. They are central to our strategy. Adacentriq revenue, excluding McAfee, was up an impressive 21% over the Q4 of last year. And I'd like to share a few highlights with you, starting with DCG. DCG's revenue was up 20% over the 4th quarter.

The cloud segment was up 35%, comm service providers were up 16%, enterprise was up 11% and our adjacency revenue was up 35%. We saw broad based demand strength with customer preference for high performance products driving richer ASP mix. Cloud segment results were driven by significant volume growth and continued customer preference for higher performance products. In the comms service provider segment, we continue to take share and grow revenue as customers chose IA based solutions to virtualize and transform their network. Enterprise segment strength was driven mostly by ASP as customers transition to Xeon Scalable Products in a seasonally strong Q4 IT buying window.

While we continue to see enterprise customers offload workloads to public clouds, We are also seeing those customers prioritize performance solutions for hybrid and on premise build outs. Customers across all of our segments are accelerating deployment of Xeon Scalable Processors, which is ramping roughly in line with our historical Xeon transition. We continue to demonstrate leadership and progress in artificial intelligence with the data center for the edge and from 100 of watts to milliwatts. Our software optimization for the CAFE framework has improved already strong Xeon Scalable ResNet-fifty inference performance by 2 times just since the launch in July. 1st generation Nirvana neural network processor ran a neural network less than 2 weeks after we received silicon and we've shipped our 1st customer units.

At the edge, Google announced its AIY Vision Kit featuring our Mobidius Vision Processing Unit and Amazon announced DeepLens, the world's 1st deep learning enabled video camera for developers, which uses an Intel CPU, graphics and compute libraries for deep neural networks. We're also seeing design wins that combine technologies from multiple data centric business units, reinforcing the idea that we have developed a unique and differentiated collection of capabilities that can address customer challenges together more effectively than any one business could alone. A great example is Dahua's recent announcement of their DeepSense product line, which combines core CPU, Intel FPGA based network video recorders, along with Movidius VPU based cameras enable people in automobile detection in smart city applications using artificial intelligence. In the Programmable Solutions group, we saw strong double digit growth in the data center, auto, embedded and advanced products categories, as well as last time buys of legacy products. That strength was partially offset by softness in the comms infrastructure.

In Q4, we launched the Intel FPGA SDK for OpenCL to dramatically increase productivity for our customers. We also delivered 1st to market leadership innovations in the Stratix 10 product line, including the first SoC FPGA with an ARM processor at more than 1,000,000 logic elements and the industry's first FPGA with integrated HBM2 memory. Our Internet of Things group grew 21% with continuing momentum in retail, video and in vehicle infotainment verticals. Wind River saw strong multiyear contract renewals and delivered its most profitable quarter ever for Intel. Memory business grew 9% and achieved profitability in Q4.

A strong client volume was partially offset by a 1 quarter qualification delay of a data center to SSD volume. Last quarter, I shared with you that our leadership technology is resulting in strong customer interest in long term supply arrangements. That interest has continued to grow. We have since signed additional agreements and now expect payments totaling roughly $2,000,000,000 over the course of 2018. Mobileye had another strong quarter and business momentum is growing.

Our 30 design wins over the course of 2017 and 15 new program launches in 2018 are both increases of 2.5 times over the prior period. We now have level 2 plus and level 3 design wins with 11 automakers who collectively represent more than 50% of global vehicle production. These advanced programs launch over the next 2 years and they represent a major leap in functionality versus current semiautonomous systems and are a significant step towards a scalable level 4 and level 5 fully autonomous systems. We reached an important milestone in the Q4, the announcement of our level 3 through 5 autonomous driving platform based on IQ5 and Adam, which we'll sample over the next few months. We believe this will be the most advanced, scalable and efficient platform of its kind.

IQ5 will deliver 24 teraops of deep learning performance in a 10 watt power envelope or about 2.5 times the efficiency of the competition. Just a couple of weeks ago at CES, we announced that by the end of 2018, we expect 2,000,000 IQ equipped cars will be collecting crowdsourced data or REM, our road experience management mapping solution. The resulting map will first be utilized in Level 3 beginning in 2019. The ability to crowdsource data to build and rapidly update the precision maps required for higher levels of automation is a major differentiator in our plan to build out the safest and most affordable autonomous vehicle system. It's also a great example of our data centric strategy at work.

And finally, I'd like to touch on our PC centric businesses, the Client Computing Group. Over the course of the year, the PC market improved. Our 14 nanometer manufacturing costs came down and the competitive environment intensified. Against that backdrop, PCG's focus on innovation and performance, especially in growth segments like gaming, 2 in-one, Thin and Light Notebooks and Enterprise led to record core mix and record i7 volume in the Q4. We also shipped our 1st low volume 10 nanometer SKU and our modem business grew 26% over the Q4 of last year.

Intel is undergoing one of the most significant transformations in corporate history from a PC centric company to a datacenter company. We've made thoughtful, disciplined investments along the way that have expanded our TAM to $260,000,000,000 Those same investments have produced a collection of data centric businesses that are unmatched, growing at double digit rate and approaching 50% of the company's revenue. Our opportunity is larger than it's ever been and we're hungry to compete and win. In 2018, our highest priorities will be executing to our strategy and meeting the commitments we make to our owners and our customers. This includes our commitment to restoring customer confidence in the security of their data.

This year, Intel will celebrate a half century of innovation that has profoundly changed the world. Over the last 50 years, we invented the architecture and manufacturing technologies that have made personal computing, the Internet and the cloud not only possible, but pervasive. The journey hasn't been without challenges. Nothing worth doing ever is. Our culture has been forged through taking challenges head on and developing solutions our customers can count on.

That includes working directly to address the Spectre and Meltdown security threats. We leave 2017 on a financial high note, but I'm even more excited about what's to come, about our strategy producing great products for our customers and great returns for our owners. I see Intel innovation changing the world for another 50 years, and that journey starts with 2018. Over the coming year, we'll bring amazing innovation and performance to the PC market, advance the state of art in the artificial intelligence, lead the way towards mass 5 gs deployment, launch the industry's first new memory architecture in 2 decades and take another step toward a safer world in which autonomous driving is a reality. Looking back on 2017, I could not be more proud of our team and all they've accomplished.

As I look to our 50th year, I'm more optimistic and confident than I've ever been about Intel's future. And with that, let me hand it over to Bob.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Brian. The 4th quarter was an outstanding close to a record 2017, and we are building real momentum heading into 2018. Revenue for the quarter was $17,100,000,000 up 8% year over year. Operating income was $5,900,000,000 up 21% year over year, and EPS of $1.08 was up 37% year over year. From a capital allocation perspective, we redeemed $1,600,000,000 of 2,035 convertible debt, reducing our share count by 59,000,000 shares and repurchased $500,000,000 of higher coupon debt and exchanged $1,800,000,000 into 30 year debt at a 1% lower coupon rate.

On tax reform, our Q4 GAAP earnings reflect a onetime tax impact of $5,400,000,000 And our guidance reflects approximately 7 point improvement in our effective tax rate going forward. To summarize, we had a fantastic quarter year and are on track to exceed the 3 year targets we laid out at our Analyst Day, one full year ahead of schedule. Our Q4 results demonstrated continued momentum in our transformation from a PC centric to a data centric company. Intel's data centric businesses, those outside of the PC segment, are at an all time high mix of 47% of our revenue, up from approximately 40% in 2012. We've made significant investments to expand our TAM into new data rich markets like memory, programmable solutions and autonomous driving.

These investments are just starting to pay off and will fuel Intel's growth going forward. Our PC centric business was down 2% in a declining PC market, and it continues to be a great source of profitability. CCG delivered its most profitable year since 2011 by focusing on premium and growth segments with industry leading products. This business generated the cash to fund Intel's investments in new data centric growth. Moving to Q4 earnings.

We generated significant EPS expansion in the quarter, up 37% year on year. Our EPS improvement was driven by strong top line growth, a 5 point improvement in operating margins and significant gains from our iCap portfolio. Our gross margins expanded 2 points in the quarter and our spending as a percent of revenue declined by 3 points as we delivered $700,000,000 more revenue and $300,000,000 less spending. In terms of operating efficiency, we're well ahead of schedule of meeting our commitment by reducing spending to 30% by 2020. We now expect to achieve this goal no later than 2019.

Total spending was down 6% year over year in the 4th quarter while we continued investing in our key priorities, including driving Moore's Law forward, winning in artificial intelligence and autonomous driving. R and D spending as a percent of revenue was down approximately 1 point, and our SG and A costs were down over 2 points as we rationalize our marketing and sales programs and generate significant leverage in our SG and A functions. Let me touch briefly on our segment performance. Client Computing Group had another strong quarter. Revenue of $9,000,000,000 was down 2 points and operating margins were down 2 points.

Operating margins were lower on 10 nanometer transition costs. We saw strength in the commercial gaming business, and we believe the worldwide PC supply chain is operating at healthy levels. The Data Center Group had record revenue of $5,600,000,000 up 20% year over year, and operating income of $3,000,000,000 grew 59%. Q4 operating margin was 54%. As Brian mentioned earlier, we had strong growth and execution across all segments.

Overall, unit volume was up 10%, ASPs were up 8% and our adjacencies grew by 35%. Our ASP strength demonstrates the value customers see in our high performance products. Xeon Scalable launched in July is ramping well with customers broadly deploying this leadership product family. Revenue scale from leadership products, ASP strength and the exclusion of 2016 onetime charges drove strong operating income growth for the business. For the full year, revenue was up 11% and operating margin came in at 44%, both ahead of the expectations we provided at the beginning of the year.

The IoT, NSG and PSG business segments are becoming a larger component of our overall business, collectively growing 19% year over year. Our Internet of Things business achieved record revenue of $879,000,000 growing 21% year over year, driven by strength in Industrial and Video and continued momentum in our retail business. Operating profit was $260,000,000 up 43% year over year. The Mobileye business also had a record quarter, and we are on track to our deal thesis. As we called out last quarter, results for the Mobileye acquisition are included in our All Other segment and reflects the Q4 integration of Intel's autonomous driving group spending into Mobileye.

Our memory business had revenue of $889,000,000 up 9% year over year with strong demand for data center SSD solutions and demand signals outpacing supply. This segment was profitable for the quarter, and we expect the segment to be profitable for the full year of 2018. Programmable Solutions Group had record revenue of $568,000,000 with 35% growth, driven by strength in data center, automotive and embedded. Operating profit was 100 and $56,000,000 up 95 percent year over year. The Stratix 10 design win pipeline, which represents PSG's largest ever, doubled over the last year due to engagements in 5 gs, cloud computing and the infrastructure transition to network function virtualization.

We laid out our capital allocation priorities early in the year: invest organically, expand acquisitively and return capital to our shareholders and do it wisely. In the year, we delivered on our promise. First, we generated strong free cash flow of $10,300,000,000 in the year and returned $8,700,000,000 to shareholders through dividends of $5,100,000,000 and share repurchases of $3,600,000,000 2nd, we funded a majority of the Mobileye acquisition from the sale of non core assets during the year, including McAfee and the sale of ASML shares And third, we redeemed $1,600,000,000 in convertible debt, reducing 59,000,000 shares. And we also tendered higher coupon debt for lower coupon debt. Let me expand on the ICAP and treasury related transactions executed in the quarter.

First, we sold 11,400,000 shares of our ASML holding, which generated $2,000,000,000 in cash proceeds and a gain of $1,500,000,000 2nd, we redeemed our 2,035 convertible debenture. This redemption created a $2,800,000,000 cash outflow and a noncash loss of $385,000,000 which was tax deductible. Since this debenture was convertible and therefore dilutive, the redemption effectively acted as a buyback that will reduce diluted share count by 59,000,000 shares. And third, we successfully tendered $2,300,000,000 of high coupon debt in the quarter. We exchanged $1,900,000,000 of old debt into $2,000,000,000 of 30 year new debt, reducing our coupon rate by 1%.

We also redeemed $425,000,000 of old debt for cash. This transaction both lowered our leverage and our interest expense. Adding it all up, 2017 was another record year for Intel. Revenue of $62,800,000,000 was up 9% year over year, driven by 16% growth in our data centric businesses and 3% growth in PC centric business. Operating income of $19,600,000,000 was up 18% on strong execution across the businesses and disciplined spending.

Earnings per share of $3.46 was up 28% on excellent operational performance and the benefit of $0.35 from iCAP net gains. The change to the accounting rules for recognizing price changes on equity investments, we do not expect to see these iCAP gains repeat. Before I turn to guidance, let me provide a little more context on the impact of tax reform on our business. Intel's 4th quarter results reflect a higher GAAP income tax expense of $5,400,000,000 as a result of U. S.

Corporate tax reform enacted in December. This includes a onetime required tax adjustment on previously untaxed foreign earnings payable over 8 years, which was partially offset by the remeasurement of deferred income taxes to the new U. S. Statutory tax rate. Looking ahead, we expect the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will help level the playing field for U.

S. Manufacturers like Intel that compete in today's global economy. We expect the 2018 tax rate of approximately 14% driven by a lower U. S. Statutory tax rate of 21%, lower tax on foreign income, benefits from U.

S. Exporters and the continuation of the R and D credit. The change in our tax rate drives approximately $0.28 in 2018 EPS. Intel has a rich history of investing in U. S.-led research and development and U.

S. Manufacturing. Just last year, we committed to the fit up of our Fab 42 facility, creating thousands of jobs at completion. These tax forms provide further incentive to continue investments like this. Before we turn to our 2018 outlook, I also want to highlight 2 accounting rule changes: 1st, new accounting rules for revenue recognition and second, accounting for equity gains and losses.

We do not expect a material impact to revenue from the revenue recognition accounting change. The changes in accounting for equity gains and losses will require the recognition of unrealized price changes each quarter. So equity holdings like our ASML position will see mark to market adjustments that will flow through earnings in 2018, which may create greater volatility on a GAAP basis. This change resulted in an impact of $2,700,000,000 of net unrealized gains at year end that we booked to equity on January 1, 2018. Now moving to the full year.

We are forecasting the midpoint of the revenue range at $65,000,000,000 up 4% year over year. We expect operating margin of approximately 30% with gross margins down 2 to 2.5 points and spending as a percent of revenue to be down 1 to 1.5 points. The decline in gross margin is driven by growth in our adjacent businesses as we play in an expanded TAM and transition costs associated with 10 nanometer, both partially offset by higher gross margins from our 14 nanometer products. We expect EPS of $3.55 up 14%, excluding the iCAP net gains, driven by a strong top line growth and a lower tax rate of approximately 14%, which will increase EPS by approximately 0 point 2 $8 We expect net capital deployed of $12,000,000,000 This reflects gross CapEx of $14,000,000,000 off set by approximately $2,000,000,000 of customer prepayments for memory supply agreements. The increase in CapEx reflects our and our customers' confidence in our memory technology leadership.

We expect free cash flow of $13,000,000,000 an increase of approximately 30%, directly contributing to our decision to raise our dividend by a full 10%. As we look to the Q1 of 2018, we are forecasting the mid point of revenue range at $15,000,000,000 up 5% year over year. We expect operating margin of approximately 27%, flat year over year with a 3 point decline in gross margins offset by a 3 point decline in spending. We expect EPS of $0.70 up 11%, excluding iCAP net gains from strong top line growth and a lower effective tax rate. We believe 2018 will be another record year for Intel, and we feel great about where we are entering year 2 of our 3 year transformation.

We've met and exceeded our commitments. Our PC centric team continues to operate very well in a down market, and our data centric businesses are up double digits collectively as we continue to transform the company to power the cloud and smart connected devices. With that, let me turn it back to Mark.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, Brian and Bob. Moving on now to the Q and A, as is our normal practice, we would ask each participant to ask one question and just one follow-up if you have one.

Speaker 1

Our first question comes from the line of John Pitzer from Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Yes, good afternoon guys. Congratulations on the strong results. Thanks for letting me ask the question. My first question just revolves around the revenue guidance for the March quarter. At the midpoint, down about 12% sequentially is a lot worse than I guess normal seasonal.

And I guess, I'm trying to figure out kind of the parameters that you guys are using to come up with that number. Was there something in the DCG strength in the calendar the quarter that you don't think is repeatable given your comments around the PC supply chain being healthy that to me feels a little bit more seasonal than not in the March quarter. So I'm just kind of curious as to why the Q1 revenue would be so much below what has been kind of the 5 year medium seasonality for Q1?

Speaker 4

John, thanks. It's Bob. So really two things going on. 1, the enterprise growth in DCG, as Brian highlighted, was up 11% in the 4th quarter. So extremely strong seasonal growth for Enterprise, a little bit more than we expected, frankly.

That's number 1. Number 2, PSG 35% growth was helped by end of life sales during the course of the quarter. And if you adjust for maybe a more normalized enterprise growth and PSG growth, you get to more of a seasonal Q4 to Q1 dynamic. So in line with seasonal if you make those two adjustments.

Speaker 5

That's very helpful. And then Brian, on my second question revolves around CapEx. I think it was a year ago on this conference call that you kind of mentioned that you thought that calendar year 2017 calendar year 2018 would be sort of above trend line CapEx spending for you guys. And then you thought it would come down again in calendar year 2019 to a more normal trend, albeit you didn't quantify the trend. Just given the big uptick in $18,000,000,000 to $14,000,000,000 I realized 2 of that's already being covered by prepayments.

But how do we think about kind of the trend line CapEx from here, especially in light of the changing relationship between yourself and Micron on IMFT?

Speaker 3

Sure, John. So my perspective is, if you take a look at it right, memory kind of I mean logic on our CapEx just scales with our increase in revenue kind of our overall growth rate. So that's felt in line. With memory, we're going to take a look at it really on a year by year basis. And I'd tell you that Bob is really doing a good job of helping the business unit look over the capital.

And when we have demand and people are willing to pay upfront for that demand and reserve the capacity like we've done this year. We're going to go ahead and put that capacity in place plus what we think the overall market we can do as distributing across the overall market. And that's really independent of the changing relationship with Micron. That's really more about how we're doing development work out in time, really. That's actually still 2 generations away.

That didn't really affect 2018. This was really about what we saw for the overall NAND memory market plus the additional capital and capacity that people wanted to reserve through that process. And we'll look at that each year, John, and say, okay, as we look out into 2019, at the end of 'eighteen, we'll do that same analysis.

Speaker 5

Helpful. Thanks for the question.

Speaker 4

I would just sorry, I was just follow on to Brian's comments. The way we're looking at memory, and we talked a bit about this on the last call, is increased confidence in our customers in the technologies that we're developing where those relationships, they will help fund the scaling of the capacity to grow the business. And we're really trying to match net capital employed to be in conjunction with known customer demand. So what that meant for 2017 is the net capital was roughly $1,500,000,000 We've held that relatively flat in 2018. So while gross capital is higher, we have more conviction in the customer base to fund $2,000,000,000 of the gross capital.

So memory, we're really trying to focus on customer adoption

Speaker 5

of our

Speaker 4

technology to effectively and efficiently scale the business. And then just the only other point I would make on Logic, remember, a year ago, in terms of our outlook for growth, we're well ahead of our outlook for growth. We were probably at the time implied in our outlook was probably a $62,500,000,000 kind of number in 2018. Obviously, with our guide now at $65,000,000,000 we're $2,500,000,000 higher, and it's that incremental growth that's placed in more demands on logic capacity, both for 14, 10 nanometer and as we think forward about 7 nanometer.

Speaker 5

Perfect. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Moore from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you. I wonder if

Speaker 7

you could talk about OpEx. Obviously, you've been pretty disciplined there bringing that down, but you've also got some other initiatives. You announced a discrete graphics effort. Maybe if you talk about it seems like that would cost a lot if I just look at what your competitors are spending. And then at some point you're going to spend money on NAND that used to be shared with Micron.

So just can you talk about the puts and takes there? And is there something that we should think about that's coming down to sort of offset those potential increases?

Speaker 3

Sure. I'll start and I'll let Bob kind of give you the under the cover detail of the dollars. But Joe, this

Speaker 4

really we've already factored all

Speaker 3

of those things in. So things like the discrete graphics is a ramping spend. The memory is R and D spending out in time. So for 2018 has no really effect. And then we've driven an overall efficiency in all of our R and D spending to offset that.

So increasing in GPU spending, there's some other increases as well around things like autonomous driving and some of the other artificial intelligence and some of the emerging areas. You're right, over time, we'll increase spending in NAND, in R and D, but those are being offset by efficiencies that we're driving into the rest of our product R and D. And we really feel like we're getting to a good point where we can keep the pace of innovation going on our core products, while we fund these new initiatives as well and not take a beat from our continued efficiency efforts across spending as a percent of revenue.

Speaker 4

Yes, Joe, I'd just add some numbers to Brian's words. We've kind of come down from 36% to 35% to 34% to a second half of twenty 17 at roughly 31% of revenue. So we've been coming down as we've been doing 2 things. 1, the investments that we've been making are paying off in terms of higher growth and number 2, we're making real trade offs in where we're investing our money. As we go into implied in our guidance as we go into 'eighteen, we're expecting our spending level to be roughly flat with an annualized 2017 spending level.

So we're going to and underneath that, continuing to drive efficiencies in sales and marketing as we become more of a B2B or data centric company and getting real leverage on our G and A functions across the board. So we've made real progress during the course of the last couple of years. Including the second half, we expect to make continued progress while making the critical investments in things like discrete graphics, autonomous driving, artificial intelligence and continuing to invest in Moore's Law.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. And as you think about that NAND investment, I guess people have asked me what your what the separation from Micron on the long term path means. Does that mean there's sort of more of a focus on proprietary products like 3 d Crosspoint Or do you remain firmly committed to sort of more to a more competitive NAND market?

Speaker 4

Sure. So just want to make sure

Speaker 3

you we clarify a little bit, Joe. The separation of development work is, again, out in time. Think of it in the 2020 timeframe is when the real independence come in. It's NAND specific. So we continue to work together on 3 d Crosspoint.

So and this is really just it's not a separation of the companies or something about the relationship. The relationship with Micron continues to be a good one. And I foresee it will continue to be a good one in the future as well. This is about direction of where we're going to take our products. And we've talked about ours are very data center centric and really tied to performance and aligning to the customer market that we're really looking at.

And so the spending in R and D we're talking about right now is purely NAND specific. 3 d XPoint continues to be a joint effort.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ambrish Srivastava with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Hi. Thank you very

Speaker 8

much. Brian and Bob, I wanted to go back to DCG, specifically on the op margin front. We have not seen a 5 handle, if my model is correct. It's been 8 plus quarters. So can you please speak to the sustainability of the op margin and kind of what were the drivers that got you to that level?

And I had a follow-up as well, please.

Speaker 4

Yes. So we came into the year and we indicated that we expected margins for the full year to be in the kind of 40% to 45% range. And obviously, we started out low, but we set our expectations were that would grow throughout the course of the year. A couple of things in the Q4. Obviously, growth, So real good leverage on our existing investment was a big contributor.

Secondly, ASPs were up 8%. So of the 20% growth, ASPs accounted for 8 points of that. And as Brian highlighted, whether it's cloud, comms or enterprise, customers in the quarter were really paying for performance. That performance for us was higher ASPs. 3rd, continued progress on unit costs.

And then last, you may remember, last year's Q4, we had some warranty and IP related charges in the data center business that I think cost us roughly 4 points a year ago. So last year's were a little bit deflated. But good volume leverage, strong ASPs as customers paid for performance and unit costs improving.

Speaker 8

So we should expect this level going forward, Bob?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think I wouldn't get too far away from the 40% to 45%, to be honest with you. I think as we go into 2018, the good we think good cloud momentum, that's been consistent performance over the course of the year, last couple of years. Tom's, our performance, we believe, was real strong in a somewhat sluggish market, so real share gains. But the high kind of seasonal enterprise growth and strong ASPs in the quarter, we think are more seasonal in nature.

And we're not anticipating enterprise growth stay at these levels as we go into 'eighteen.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful. And then for my follow-up on the gross margin for next year. You provided the sort of qualitatively the adjacency as well as the cost impact from the 10 ramp. But A, I was surprised you didn't mention competition because now AMD will have a full year of product in an area they never were for I should say never, they were not in an area for a long time.

So question is, are you seeing any competition? Are you factoring that in? And then B, would it be possible to quantify the 2 impacts that you mentioned? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. It's just, I'd highlight, 3 things that are driving the deterioration. But I'd start first with, we've always characterized our long term gross margins to be in the 55% to 65% range. And for the last several years and included in our guidance this year, we'll be at the upper end of that 60% to 65% range. But for the last couple of years, there's we've had maturity of 14 nanometer.

And that maturity, both in terms of getting more and more performance, and lower and lower unit costs, has been contributors to gross margin. As we go into 2018, we see 14 nanometer modest contributions from profitability because we've matured on the cost curve. It's an increasingly competitive environment, and we don't anticipate dramatic ASP improvements over the entire company. Some cases, yes, but for the most part, no. So we'll see some continued improvement in 14 nanometer products during the course of the year.

Secondly, we are really accelerating the growth of our adjacent businesses. The investments that we've been making in both the data centric businesses and our growth in modem, those are contributing to our year on year EPS growth. However, those both of those product lines or businesses have lower margins. So our success in modem and memory is having a mix impact on our gross margins. The third area is we're going from 10 nanometer startup where costs are coming down to more the ramp to the 10 nanometer.

And that ramp is going to weigh on the margins as we begin to develop production going into the second half of the year, where we're way up the curve on where our yields and costs are. So those are kind of the three things as we see it. And if I were to characterize roughly plus 1, roughly minus 2, roughly minus 1, rounding And

Speaker 3

Anurish, on your question about specifically around competition, I think every year we look at it as a competitive environment, and we're out to compete for our customers. And so we factor that in each year appropriately, I think, against the competition. So we've looked at the competitive environment and we believe beyond scalable, great performance that has, our overall product roadmap, we think we have a highly competitive roadmap and have adjusted for that in our forecast.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you for all the details. Good luck.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Stacy Rasgon from Bernstein. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First, can you walk us through your free cash flow waterfall? I can't get there. Flattish operating income on 4% revenue growth.

You lose a couple of $1,000,000,000 in iCap gains. CapEx, I guess, maybe it's flattish with the memory prepayments. Taxes maybe gets me a third to half of the way there. But where does the rest of the free cash flow come from? Are you just draining a ton of working capital or what?

Can you walk us through?

Speaker 4

Yes. First, dollars 13,000,000,000 in free cash flow, up roughly 30% year on year. First, higher cash earnings. Our guide has EPS up roughly 14%. In that guide, there's depreciation has grown in 'eighteen relative to 2017.

So that has just higher cash earnings. Secondly, we do expect lower working capital as we go through 2018. 3rd, we have higher strategic customer supply agreements. And those three things are all contributing to the positive. And then obviously, Stacy, the higher growth capital is a bit of an offset.

So stronger cash earnings, better working capital, more strategic supply, partially offset by higher CapEx.

Speaker 9

Okay. For my follow-up, I want to ask about the growth next year of your kind of adjacent businesses versus your core businesses. Of that $65,000,000,000 of that 4%, can you give us a feeling how much of that is coming from the adjacent, I guess, mostly memory and modems versus the core? It must be decent given the gross margin pressures. And I guess as a corollary to that, you mentioned a one delay, 1 quarter delay in data center memory.

Was that a statement on Crosspoint?

Speaker 3

No, that was a NAND. I'll start with just the answer to that question for you Stacy. That was a 3 d NAND SSD. We had some delays in the Q4 and those are being addressed now. So that was that comment.

Speaker 9

And growth from sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 4

I think on your first question, in the $65,000,000,000 we characterized it as roughly low single digit decline in our PC centric businesses. So implied in that is PC maybe declined a little bit more and modem, I. E, adjacency within the CCG segment partially offsetting that. In the overall guide, we said that the data centric businesses would be growing in the mid teens. Obviously, that's we believe that will be the strongest growth segment within the makeup of our data centric businesses will be in memory.

And it will be a function of customer quals that Brian just highlighted, and we expect NSG growth to accelerate throughout the course of 2018. So 4th low single digit decline on PC centric and mid teen growth on data centric businesses.

Speaker 9

So what does that memory strength imply for the data center growth, the DCG growth, particularly given the strong performance in Q4?

Speaker 4

For the most part, the DIMs for NSG that will go through data center will be late in 2018 and won't really have an impact on the overall growth rate of that business. So it's primarily about growth of 3 d NAND during the course of the year.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from C. J. Muse from Evercore. Your line is now open.

Speaker 10

J. Muse:] Thank you for taking my question. I guess, a couple of housekeeping questions, if I could kind of put them together. Curious if you could share with us how you're thinking about CapEx spend between logic and memory? And then on the 10 nanometer start up, can you share with us when you're expecting to begin depreciating those costs?

Speaker 4

First, on the CapEx, we indicated gross capital in the year of $14,000,000,000 that we'd get customer strategic supply agreements of roughly $2,000,000,000 So our net capital is $12,000,000,000 in the year. Again, I kind of break that into 2 pieces: memory, net capital employed, no change and logic CapEx up roughly $1,000,000,000 year on year. And as we mentioned earlier, that $1,000,000,000 is a function of primarily growth continuing to grow 14 nanometer. Second, scaling up 10 nanometer and third, investing in next node 7 nanometer during the course of the year. So those three things are really driving the $1,000,000,000 increase in CapEx for Logic.

The second part of your question So for 10 nanometer, as we bring that equipment online, we turn on there's some equipment now that's being depreciated. But as we bring more online as we ramp in the second half of the year, When we turn that equipment on is when we start depreciating it. So we'd expect our depreciation bill in the second half of the year to be growing. And that's one of the contributors to really to come full circle. That's one of the contributors to the gross margin deterioration during the course of the year as we start to ramp 10 nanometer.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Vivek Arya from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Thanks for taking my question. For the first one, Brian, I'm curious, are you baking in any effect on sales or cost or pricing from any resolution on the processor security issues. There is one line of thinking that says customers might decelerate their purchase and then you have others in the industry saying that customers might accelerate their purchase later on. So I'm just curious how you're looking at the financial implications, positive or negative, from this issue near term and longer term?

Speaker 4

Sure. So

Speaker 3

let me try and kind of break it into 2 kind of answers for that, Vivek. From a cost standpoint, we've baked in and we've talked about that we don't expect any material impact of this security exploit on our spending or products costs or any of that. So that's how we baked that in. From a forecast standpoint, we actually made our forecast and we've checked it as we go through this the 1st few weeks here of the year against our prior forecast to make sure that the forecast incorporated any changes or any signs we're seeing up or down. And I'd tell you at the highest level, we're not seeing much of a change as a result of this.

So I'd tell you it's pretty balanced right now. So spending not material and didn't make any adds there. And then our forecast, we had a forecast. We've checked it as we go through the 1st few weeks of the year, and it hasn't really changed or altered as we looked at it.

Speaker 6

And the

Speaker 4

only other thing I'd add per Brian's comment earlier, we kind of go into the year realizing that it's an increasingly competitive environment. And our focus is on on right now continuing to bring the best highest performance products to market, but also to lots of time and energy spent on focusing on fixing this issue primarily through software patches as opposed to short term hardware things.

Speaker 6

Got it. And that's my follow-up. For the full year, how should we think about growth in just the DCG business? I understand you gave some color around the entire data centric group, which includes memory and other segments. But just sort of apples to apples, how should we think about growth in just PCG, which had a very strong double digit growth year in 'seventeen?

Yes.

Speaker 4

Throughout the course of the year, we sorry, throughout the course of 'seventeen, we kind of guided to high single digits, and we kind of executed to that throughout. And then Q4 wasn't dramatically different than the 1st three quarters of the year, really with the exception of the high seasonal spend for enterprise. And that really took us from a high single digit to low double digit or 11% growth for the year. As we go into 'eighteen, we do not expect that we think that in the enterprise space, things will go back down to the negative single digit range and therefore, don't anticipate a dramatic difference in how we laid out DCG a year ago. So that's how we're thinking about it.

If I maybe elevate that back up a little bit and just think about when we're putting together our plans for the year, there's 2 areas where our tendency is to be a little cautious on the outlook. One is PCTAM. We tend to be a little more cautious on PCTAM. We tend to be a little more cautious as we think about enterprise growth in the DCG business. And the reason we do that is we think it's important to be cautious, get our cost in line.

And if our assumptions on market rates of growth turn out to be conservative, we'll benefit from we believe we'd benefit from higher volume and real strong flow through to net income. That's how we plan the year coming into 2017, and we did kind of the same thing for 2018. So I don't anticipate dramatically different ECG growth than how we laid out 2017 as we entered 2018 because we really haven't assumed a change in trajectory of enterprise CIO spending in the course of the year.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Very helpful.

Speaker 3

Operator, if you

Speaker 2

could take our last question. Yes.

Speaker 1

Our last question comes from Blayne Curtis from Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker 11

Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. I just wanted to go back to the DCG ASPs. You had talked about the ramp of scalable being kind of to plan, but then I think you got a nice tailwind. I think you implied enterprise had a higher percent of scalable.

So just wanted to just talk on broad strokes, just where the scalable ramp is here and kind of your expectations kind of getting through the year where that could go?

Speaker 3

Sure. So I'll start and Bob can add some number detail and all. The Xeon Scalable ramp is right in line with prior ramps of similar products on our PCG roadmap. And what you saw when we talked about Q4 was not necessarily more Xeon Scalable, but people buying up the stack on Xeon Scalable, which drove ASP. So they're buying the higher performance, higher priced parts.

And that's not uncommon when at the early stages of a ramp. People come in and they typically want to buy the highest performing parts at the beginning. And then they fill out their distribution as other buyers come in and other parts of the market kind of open up. So ramps on schedule and aligned with prior ramps and the ASP was more about SKUs like buying up on higher performance parts than necessarily a volume statement.

Speaker 11

Got you. And then I also want to go back on just sorry, thanks. I just want to go back in gross margin as well. As you look for March, you mentioned the drop is from adjacent business as well as 10 nanometer. Obviously, memory, you're signaling a big ramp, but it doesn't move out fully.

I just wonder if, Bob, you just walked through the 10 nanometer start up costs as they kind of move through the year and kind of if you can outline between those 2 in Q1, what's the bigger factor?

Speaker 4

So, yes, I think mix dynamics are going to be a bigger factor overall for the year, both in Q1 and for the rest of the year as our memory and modem business continue to accelerate strong growth. So that's going to be the biggest impact. I think 10 nanometer will have an impact just right out of the gate, and we'll kind of continue throughout the year as we scale volume, but also need to improve yields during the course of the year. So hopefully, that's helpful.

Speaker 11

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you all for joining us today. Operator, please go ahead and wrap up the call.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes today's program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.

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