Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Intuitive Surgical Q2 2016 Earnings Release Call. At this As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host Calvin Darling, Senior Director of Finance, Investor Relations of Intuitive Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Intuitive Surgical Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. With me today, we have Gary Goodhart, our President and CEO, Marshall Moore, our Chief Financial Officer and Patrick Clingan, Vice President of Finance And Sales Operations. Before we begin, I would like to inform you that comments mentioned on today's call may be deemed to contain forward looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of company's Securities And Exchange Commission filings, including our most recent Form 10 K filed on February 2, 2016, and 10 Q filed on April 19, 2016.
These filings can be found through our website or at the SEC's EDGAR database. Prospective investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such forward looking statements. Please note that this conference call will be available for audio replay on our website at intuitivesurgical.com on the audio archive section under our Investor Relations page. In addition, today's press release and supplementary financial data tables have been posted to our website. Today's format will consist of providing you with highlights of our second quarter results as described in our press release announced earlier today, followed by a question and answer session.
Gary will present the quarter's business and operational highlights. Marshall will provide a review of our 2nd quarter financial results, Patrick will discuss marketing and clinical highlights, then I will provide our updated financial outlook for 2016. And finally, we will host a question and answer session. With that, I'll turn it over to Gary. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on the call today.
In the second quarter, our company performance was strong. Highlighted by sustained procedure growth across multiple geographies, improved margins and continued customer preference for our new products Turning first to procedures, global procedure growth for the quarter was nearly 16% with prior quarter trends continuing. Drivers of growth included U. S. General Surgery, growth in the use of da Vinci surgical systems outside the United States, and modest growth in U.
S. Urology and gynecology. In Gwenal hernia repair and ventral hernia repair growth remains strong and growth in colorectal surgery was solid. Procedure growth was variable by country in Europe with accelerating growth in Germany, Both the Nordics and France experienced modest improvement relative to Q1 growth rates. In the UK, growth decelerated slightly from Q1.
In Asia, procedure growth in Japan was solid again in the quarter, while growth in Korea was robust and accelerated over Q1 growth rate. Growth in procedures in China was also strong. Patrick will review procedure trends in greater detail later in the call. We placed 130 da Vinci systems in the quarter, up from 118 in Q2 of 2015. Our most capable model, da Vinci XI, represented roughly 3 quarters of new capital placements.
System placement orders included an increase in dual consoles, and the addition of integrated table motion, leading to higher feature content on average than Q1. Placements in Europe and Asia increased over Q1, while U. S. Placements were slightly up relative to last quarter. Marshall will take you through our our manufacturing design and supply chains.
Q2 was another strong quarter of operations efficiency and cost reduction performance. We plan to continue these optimization efforts as they provide significant financial flexibility for us in coming years. Turning to highlights of our 2nd quarter operating results. Procedures grew nearly 16% over the second quarter of last year. We shipped 130 da Vinci surgical systems, up from 118 in the second quarter of 2015.
Revenue for the quarter was $670,000,000, up 14% from the prior year, Pro form a gross profit margin was 71.9% compared to 68% in the second quarter of last year. Instrument and accessory revenue increased to $339,000,000, up 14%. Total recurring revenue in the quarter was $467,000,000, representing 70% of total revenue. We generated a pro form a operating profit of $297,000,000 in the quarter, up 30% from the second quarter of last year and pro form a net income was $220,000,000, up 28% from Q2 of 2015. Recent launches of XI products, including Xi intraoperative table motion, have been well received.
As has expansion of advanced instrument lines, including our stapling products. We are continuing to invest in these line extensions to increase the value and utility of our XI offering. We have also increased investment in advanced imaging, including significant refinements in our intraoperative 3 d endoscope image processing for real time program is progressing to plan. As SP approaches clinical readiness, we are conducting in house validations and initiating work with clinical trial sites and regulatory agencies. We expect 1st markets to include head and neck surgery, urology and colorectal surgery, Over time, I expect this list of applications to evolve.
As our business has strengthened, we have increased our mid- and long term investments in research and development We've been increasing our investments in imaging, analytics and new product architectures based on our belief that a substantial opportunity exists to enable better outcomes and to expand access to our technologies globally. We expect quarter to quarter variation in spending, and increased fixed expenses in the back half of this year. Calvin will take you through our projected spending later in the call. As we move forward in 2016, we remain focused on the following: 1st, expanding the use of da Vinci in general surgery and thoracic surgery, particularly colorectal surgery and hernia repair. 2nd, advancing our ecosystem, including expanding our X I line, and taking our SP product into initial clinical use 3rd, driving our organizational capabilities in markets in Europe and Asia, And finally, assisting our customers and their efforts to maximize the comprehensive value of their programs.
I'll now turn the call over to Marshall, who will review financial highlights.
Thank you, Gary. I'll be describing our results on a non GAAP or pro form a basis, which excludes specified legal settlements and claim accruals, stock based compensation and amortization of purchased IP. We provide pro form a information because we believe that business and operating results are easier to understand on a pro form a basis. I will also summarize our GAAP results later in my script. We have posted reconciliations of our pro form a results to our GAAP results on our website so that there is no confusion.
Second quarter 2016 revenue was $670,000,000, an increase of 14% compared with 586 dollars for the second quarter of 2015, then an increase of 13% compared with 1st quarter revenue of $595,000,000. Second quarter 2016 procedures increased nearly 16% compared with the second quarter of 2015 and increased 7% compared with last quarter. Procedure growth has been driven by general surgery in the U. S. And urology worldwide.
Revenue highlights are as follows: Instrument and accessory revenue of $339,000,000 increased 14% compared with last year and increased 5% compared with first quarter of 2016. Growth in instruments and accessory revenue generally reflect procedure growth. Instrument and accessory revenue realized per procedure, including stocking orders, was approximately $1810 per procedure. This metric has fluctuated 15 in first quarter of 2016 primarily reflects the impact of customer buying patterns, partially offset by increased usage of our stapling, and vessel sealer products. While instrument and accessory usage per procedure has been relatively constant, customer buying patterns fluctuate in the short term.
System revenue of $203,000,000 increased 15% compared with the second quarter of 2015, and increased 37% compared with last quarter. These increases primarily reflect higher average system selling prices higher system placements and revenue associated with lease buyout transactions. 130 systems replaced in the 2nd quarter compared with 100 and systems in the second quarter of 2015 110 systems last quarter. 15 systems replaced under operating lease transactions in the current quarter compared with 19 last quarter has recognized ratably over the life of the lease. As of the end of the second quarter, there were 66 systems out in the field under operating leases.
We generated approximately $4,000,000 of revenue associated with operating leases in the quarter compared with $1,000,000 in the second quarter of 2015, and $4,000,000 in the last quarter. We also generated approximately $13,000,000 of revenue during the quarter from lease buyouts compared with 6 active operating leases and lease buyouts from our system ASP calculations. Globally, our average system selling price of $1,560,000 was approximately $60,000 higher than both the second quarter of 2015 and last quarter. The increase compared with prior quarters reflect a higher mix of dual console system and sales of table motion. We introduced interoperative table motion in Europe in third quarter of 2015 and early this year in the U.
S. During the First And Second quarters, we recognized $1,000,000 $6,000,000 of Table Motion software, respectively. Both the mix of dual consoles and number of table motion placements will fluctuate quarter to quarter. Service revenue of $128,000,000 increased 13% year over year and increased approximately 3% compared with the first quarter of 2016. The year over year and quarter over quarter increases reflect growth in our installed base of da Vinci systems outside of the U.
S. Results were as follows. Second quarter revenue outside of the U. S. Of $185,000,000 increased 10% compared with $168,000,000 for the second quarter of 2015, and increased 13% compared with the first quarter of $164,000,000.
The increase compared with the previous year is comprised of 16% growth in recurring revenue, which is driven by procedure growth of 25% and increased systems revenue of 2%. The increase compared to the first quarter reflects systems revenue growth of 30% and recurring revenue growth of 4%. Outside the U. S, we replaced 51 systems in the 2nd quarter compared with 46 in the second quarter of 2015 and 36 systems last quarter. Current quarter system sales included 22 into Europe, 4 into China and 13 into Japan.
System placements outside the U. S. Will continue to be lumpy as some of these markets are in the early stages of adoption Some markets are highly seasonal, reflecting budget cycles or vacation patterns and sales into some markets are constrained by government regulations. Moving on to the remainder of the P and L, the pro form a gross margin for the second quarter of 2016 was 71.9%, compared with 68% for the second quarter of 2015 70% for the first quarter of 2016. Compared with the first quarter of 2016, the higher gross margin reflects reduction in product costs, favorable costs associated with our scope exchange program, manufacturing efficiencies, and higher dual console mix, lease buyouts, and table motion sales.
Future margins will fluctuate based on the mix of our newer products, the mix of systems and instrument accessory revenue, costs associated with our scope exchange program, our ability to further reduce product costs improved manufacturing efficiency, and in the long term, the potential reinstatement of the medical device tax. Pro form a operating expenses increased 9% compared with the second quarter of 2015 and decreased nearly $2,000,000 compared with last quarter. The increase over the second quarter of 2015 reflects increased investments in advanced imaging, advanced instrumentation and next generation robotics, in increased headcount. The decrease compared with the prior quarter reflects lower payroll taxes, partially offset by increased headcounts headcount costs, particularly
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27.8 percent compared with an effective tax rate of 25.6 percent for the second quarter of 2015 and 27.4 percent last quarter. The increase in the tax rate compared with 2015 reflects one time benefits reflected in 2015. Our second quarter 2016 pro form a net income was $220,000,000 or $5.62 per share compared with 173,000,000 or $4.57 per share for the second quarter of 2015 $170,000,000 or $4.42 per share for the first quarter of 2016. As I indicated earlier, pro form a income provides an easier comparison of was $185,000,000 or $4.71 per share for the second quarter of 2016 compared with $135,000,000 or $3.56 per share for the second quarter of 2015 $136,000,000, or $3.54 per share for the first quarter of 2016. We ended the quarter with cash and investments of 4,200,000,000 up from $3,800,000,000 as of March 31, 2016.
By cash generated from operations and proceeds from stock option exercises, as our cash bills will continue to evaluate our approach to capital allocation. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to Patrick who will go over our procedure and clinical highlights. Thanks, Marshall.
Of our 2nd quarter procedure growth of nearly 16%, U. S. Procedures grew approximately 13% and OUS procedures grew approximately 25%. During the first half of twenty sixteen, global procedure growth increased to approximately 16% compared to approximately 15% in the second half of twenty fifteen and approximately 13% in the first half of twenty fifteen. We expect our procedure growth rate to moderate in the second half of twenty sixteen.
In the United States, 2nd quarter procedure growth continued to outpace our expectations. 2nd quarter growth in our mature procedures slowed modestly compared to the and kidney procedures slowed modestly compared to the first quarter of 2016. We continue to believe that our U. S. Prostatectomy volumes have been tracking to the broader surgery market, and we expect prostatectomy growth to return to levels similar to prostate cancer diagnoses over time.
And U. S. Gynecology, 2nd quarter procedures grew modestly year over year with growth led by malignant and complex benign hysterectomy. Continuing the recent trend, we estimate a larger proportion of da Vinci hysterectomy procedures were performed by gynecologic oncologists during the second quarter. Similar to the first quarter, U.
S. Single site gynecology procedures declined compared to the second quarter of 2015. In the U. S, procedures for benign gynecologic conditions slightly grew during the first half of twenty sixteen, exceeding our expectations. Second quarter U.
S. General surgery procedure adoption remained strong, led by robust growth in hernia repair and continued adoption of colorectal procedures. Hernia repair continues to contribute the largest volume of new procedures in general surgery and surgeon retention and expansion remains encouraging. Cholus cystectomy procedures slightly declined in the quarter with growth in multi port procedures, nearly offsetting declines in single site procedures. Second quarter was another quarter with a large number of clinical publications and presentations evaluating da Vinci surgery.
Of these, I have selected a few studies that you may find interesting. Intuitive is among the founding partners for the American Harnier Society Quality Collaborative Initiative or the AHS QC and this quarter 2 preliminary analyses comparing da Vinci to open or laparoscopic complex central hernia repair or brought forward. The first was a podium presentation at the American Harnier Society annual meeting by Doctor. Palus from Vanderbilt, comparing da Vinci to open retramuscular hernia repair. This patient matched analysis involving data from multiple institutions found that da Vinci reduced hospital length of stay by 3 days without significant differences in surgical side infections, readmissions or re operations.
In addition, a paper was published in surgical endoscopy by Doctor. Warren and colleagues from the University of South Carolina. The authors used their submissions to AHS QC to compare da Vinci to laparoscopic retramuscular hernia repair. Their study found that with a longer operative time, Davinci reduced the hospital length of stay by one day and also enabled a greater percentage of patients to receive facial closure and extroperitoneal placement of mesh. To which the authors attribute a reduced likelihood of hernia recurrence or bowel occasions.
Next, As Marshall mentioned earlier, sales of our intraoperative table motion technology were strong in the quarter. During the quarter, the 1st clinical publication reviewing this technology was published in the International Journal of colorectal disease by Doctor. Morelli and colleagues from the University of PISA. And a small case series of colorectal resection, surgeons use table motion to reposition the patient an average of three times to four times per procedure. The author suggested that the technology may improve patient safety by reducing the amount of time in extreme patient positions and stated the da Vinci XI plus the new operating table gives the potential to optimize gravity exposure and provides a quick access to different surgical objectives that is important colorectal surgery.
Turning abroad. Procedure growth outside of the United States was approximately 25% in the 2nd quarter. Led by the global adoption of da Vinci prostatectomy with solid contributions from kidney procedures and colorectal resection. Compared to the first quarter of 2016, 2nd quarter procedure growth improved in Europe and was similar to the first quarter in Asia. Outside of the U.
S, 2nd quarter procedures performance varied by country with strong growth in Germany, China and South Korea. In certain countries where our urology businesses become more mature, such as the United Kingdom and Nordic countries, procedures continue to grow at a slower rate. Emerging procedures are in an early stage in these markets and we are engaged with a broad range of stakeholders working to enable procedure adoption into gynecologic and general surgery. In Japan, partial nephrectomy growth accelerated in the first quarter following approval of national reimbursement. During the quarter, Ameda Analysis sponsored by the South Korean National Evidence Based Healthcare Collaborating Agency, or Netka, was published in the annals of surgical treatment and research that reviewed da Vinci and laparoscopic colon resection colon cancer resection.
The meta analysis included nearly 700 patients and found that with a longer operative time, da Vinci surgery resulted in a more rapid return of normal diet and bowel function lower blood loss and a shorter hospital stay. This government sponsored health technology assessment adds to the number of HTA that have evaluated dementia surgery in a broad range of procedures over the years. I will conclude my remarks by highlighting 1 of the largest population based studies on the impact of da Vinci prostatectomy published in the Journal of Urology by Doctor. Pearson colleagues from the University of Chicago. Using data from the National Cancer database, study includes nearly 100,000 prostatectomy patients treated with either da Vinci or open surgery.
After matching the patient populations for risk factors, Davinci Surgery was shown to reduce positive surgical margins across low, medium and high risk cohorts. As well as reduce the use of radiation therapy, 30 day readmissions, and 30 day mortality compared to open surgery. Doctor. Koch from Indiana University published a letter alongside the study titled robotic versus open prostatectomy end of controversy. In which he stated that any debate over robotic prostatectomy should be put to rest.
This concludes my remarks. I will now turn the call over to Calvin.
Thank you, Patrick. I will be providing you with our updated financial outlook call, we estimated and procedures performed in 2015. We are increasing our estimate for 2016. We now anticipate full year 2016 procedure growth within a range of 14 We anticipate fewer lease buyouts and lower upgrade and other systems revenue in Q3 and Q4 than we saw in Q2. 2nd half, 2016 system ASPs will likely be lower than Q2 driven by product and channel mix.
We expect a directionally higher proportion of our system placements in Q3 and Q4 to come from operating leases than we saw in Q2. Turning to gross profit. On our last call, we forecast 2016 pro form a gross profit margin to be within a range of between We now expect full year 2016 pro form a gross profit to be within a range of between 70% 71% of net revenue. Turning to operating expenses. Based upon investments we are making in key areas of the business, We expect expense growth will accelerate in the second half of twenty sixteen.
We continue to forecast pro form a 2016 operating expenses to grow Consistent with our last 16 compared to $168,000,000 in 20.15. We expect other income to total approximately $30,000,000 in 2016, higher than the $20,000,000 to $25,000,000 forecast on our last call due primarily to higher interest income. With regard to income tax, we continue to expect our 2016 pro form a income tax rate to be between 26.5 and 28.5 percent of pretax income, depending primarily on the mix of U. S. And international profits.
That concludes our prepared comments.
Session. Okay. And our first question, it comes from the line of Ben Andrew of William Blair. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Gary, maybe just start out by talking about the increased investments in OpEx in the back half. Obviously, you guys have always been looking for opportunities there, but talk a bit more granular about where those investments are coming and when we may see some payoffs I recall it took about a year for the European investments to kick in.
Sure. As we've said before, I think the, the messaging year has been pretty consistent. Some of the investments are in technology, things like SP starting to move into, field based investment and scale rather than just the upfront D. You're seeing some growth in that. We have some other technology investments that are a little broader.
We've talked about imaging and that's kind of a multi step process, some of it is on the acquisition side, new kinds of endoscope, some of it's on the software side, and some of it is in, the ability to enhance our fluorescent imaging portfolio. Some of those things will become commercial in future quarters. Some of them are a little longer a multiyear types of investments. With regard to investments outside of R&D, we've been growing our investments in regions around the world where we think there's real opportunity from Japan to Germany and France and others. That'll continue.
I think that some of those investments are doing well for us. We have opportunity to perform better than we have thus far. And So the right kinds of investments there are sometimes in clinical data and clinical trials, sometimes in other market development efforts, sometimes in our resources and headcount. And again, those things can be effective from a couple of quarters out to multi years out depending on what the activity is.
Okay. And then 2 more quick ones for me, please. In Europe, you talked about some of the investments in emerging procedures. Is that a protracted multiyear process to move beyond urology and GYN procedures that you've kind of started to mature in certain geographies?
I think that, you can see early success sooner than years, but I think broad adoption in many of these places is a multi year process. It starts with, leading surgeons and key opinion leaders in surgical side of the endorsement and goes from there and some cases, we need interactions with payers and reimbursement. So, we I don't think you have to wait years to see the early indicators. But, full penetration is often, more than a year process.
Great. And then finally, in the SB, you did say head and neck. Can you be more precise? Would that be sleep apnea or is this more thyroidectomy you have some initial thoughts on WER specifically, please? Thank you.
Yes. So I think in the beginning, it's really starting in the markets we're already participating in. So Transoral, more than, for example, thyroidectomy, I think this is more around surgery in the throat. And for sure, there's cancer indications for that. There may be benign indications, part of what we're talking to regulatory bodies about our clinical requirements for them to make some of those assessments and varies from what happens in Europe to what in the U.
S. What happens in Asia. So that will play out in time. But think of head and neck starting point tours. It may have other applications in neck surgery over time.
I think that SP is a pretty powerful platform And where we start and where it evolves to will differ, surgeons get a chance to experience it for themselves.
Okay. Thank you. And next question is from the line of Tycho Peterson of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks. First question, Gary, can you maybe just provide a little bit more clarity on SP timelines? I understand you're lining up the initial sites now. Sounds like from some of the recent discussions, you're really not expecting that to be much of a revenue contributor in 2017. So maybe just talk a little bit about how we should think about the rollout next year?
Sure. So, first step here is clearances and some clinical data to support in that clearance. 17 will be really focused on data generation, while I expect some revenue, I don't think it will be a material revenue contributor in team. A lot of that will be building the foundation, the Evidence Foundation, some of the clinical work. And then I think 2018, it starts become a more of a material contributor for us.
And as we get our clearances and start to solidify that timeline, we'll color that up more for you.
Okay. And then, switching over to hernia, I think you've talked in the past about doing some initial trial work. Can you maybe talk a little bit about where that stands in terms of any patient enrollment, and how we should think about timelines around the trial for 30 day 1 year and 2 year follow-up?
Turn that to Patrick? Yes. So we have a number of different initiatives ongoing as it relates to sponsoring evidence development in hernia repair. The 2, presentation and publication that I mentioned on the call from the AHS QC is among the investments we've made in helping support surgeons bring forward the outcomes that they're getting with DaVinci compared to the alternatives.
Okay. And then just last one. You had noted some delays in Europe around tenders from competitive make offs. Just anything change from your perspective this quarter?
Nothing new to note. I think that tender offers and competitive interaction is the new normal. I think our teams are doing great. I think their performance has been effective, I think we're communicating well. We have a broad portfolio that allows us to engage the customer at different levels depending on what their needs are.
So nothing new to report
Okay. Thanks.
Thank you. And the next question from the line of David Lewis of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon. Just a couple of quick questions. Maybe Gary, one for you and then a kind of a clarifying financial question. So, Gary, I appreciate the incrementally more detail you gave us in the pipeline this quarter. So two pieces, worse is analytics.
Can you just give us a broader sense of what the word analytics mean to you and intuitive. And then on imaging, is the next disclosure we're likely to see an advanced imaging approval or simply an announcement of an imaging clinical study? And then I had a quick financial follow-up.
Okay.
I think analytics has multiple components in it. As you may know, The majority of our systems are real time connected to the internet today. I think over 90% of systems are online. They report back information to us mostly around the system performance itself, what it is itself is doing rather than say patient information. That data can be turned into insights for the company and for our customers and we have been doing that for some time now.
So there's that type of analytics. Going forward, I think that is, our computational structures get more powerful we can bring some of that intelligence more real time. So rather than offline, insights, you can start generating real time insights. That's a multiyear pathway. I think it's interesting and challenging.
I think there's long term potential in it. But we're moving down that pathway, making sure that we have good access and fast access and low latency access to our devices in the field and then bringing to bear information that can help surgeons as they're performing the procedure. And you'll see from us in future years, a series of products that come out using that set of kind of digital pipeline. Turning to imaging, there are a couple of different things. We are releasing endoscopes at a fairly regular clip.
And improving that set of technologies. We made a technology change in the type of imaging we use when we switched to XI that has allowed for faster iteration for us in the kinds of imaging we do. So there's that kind of thing that's going on at kind of a regular heartbeat. Our customers are pretty well aware of where those things are. There are other things that we've talked about.
Other indications for fluorescence, we're more likely to talk to you about what's happening clinically there. Than to announce a launch. So you'll have some warning prior to launch.
Okay. That's helpful. And then, just, Calvin and Marshall, just thinking about the guidance into the back half of the year, a couple of components, but I note this quarter that operating leases were down for the first time. And in several quarters, yet I think you said operating leases will pick back up in the back half year. So sort of what's the driver there?
And then just on mix or ASPs going lower for systems in the back half, I'm assuming that's tied to your view of different geographies less excise or less consoles, dual consoles. Just give us some flavor on sort of those 2 dynamics why you're so confident in operating leases ticked back up and and ASPs ticked down? Thank you.
Sure. So philosophically, first of all, we provide our customer's leases to provide some flexibility in how they get into and it's proven out to be to work out pretty well for both them and us. This last quarter, we just saw a fewer number than the previous quarter. The previous quarter, if you recall, was 'nineteen. We would expect it to be more like Q1 than it was Q2.
So that's that's the increase the Calvin was referring to. As far as ASPs go, seasonally, systems revenue is stronger in Q4. Systems drive a slightly lower gross margin than do instruments and accessories. So that mix alone will cause margins to go down. We also would expect a little bit better performance, again, due to seasonal factors in the, in the non U.
S. Markets or outside the U. S. And so that mix also will drive, revenues down a little. And then we expect to continue to see growth in stapling and vessel sealing in our newer technology products.
And those also drive slightly lower margins. So a lot of mix will cause margins to go down. In the next couple of quarters.
Marshall, none of these things seem to me to be new dynamics. These seem to be sort of ordinary operating dynamics for Intuitive. Is that sort of how you see it?
For the most part, the seasonal things are I think the, the new thing is as we drive the new product revenue, that's increases over previous quarters.
And David, if we're talking about margins, the one thing that was kind of different in the second quarter was on the service side. Saw a pretty market replacement program with customers. We're going to be expanding the program as the base builds out in the second half and it's going to require a higher proportion of new scopes at higher cost and lower margin to replenish. So that's something that'll be a headwind in the second half.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Thank you. And the next question is from the line of Bob Hopkins of Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Can you hear me okay?
You can.
Great. Good afternoon. So, Marshall, just to continue on this conversation around margins. Because last quarter, you commented on mix and how you didn't think you'd be able to sustain 70% and now the guidance going up on gross margin. And I understand there's a lot of moving pieces here.
So just from a top down perspective, from where you sit today, when you look forward at the business, should we be thinking about low 70s gross margin as something that can be sustained over time? Just us a sense on what you've just been learning here in the first half of this year as it relates to a more sustainable outlook for gross margins longer term?
Yes, I think, we've given you the guidance for the remainder of the year. We think that, that's the the best crystal ball we have at this point. There are a lot of moving parts, hard to predict exactly where each one will come out. And so I'll leave it at that. I don't want to get into where we think it'll go long term, long term, those same moving parts will cause us not to have confidence in exactly where they'll come out, although know that we'll manage things very, diligently, as you know, last we put in some programs to reduce the costs of XI and XI related product.
And those have been successful. And that's part of what we're seeing here in the year to year improvement.
But I mean, in terms of thinking about the biggest moving pieces, what are the things that you would have us focus on as we think a little bit longer term when we try to consider what a sustainable gross margin might look like for the company?
Yes. I don't think we put our put a stake in the ground and I don't think that I'm prepared to do that right now.
Okay. Well, we can take it off line, but, thank you for that. And then, Gary, one other thing I wanted to ask about, 2 quick things. One, on just eye popping number of $4,200,000,000 now in cash on the balance sheet. And you get this question quite frequently, but I'm just curious now with this almost 20% of the market cap in cash.
Are there sizable M and A targets out there that you're kind of considering? And that's why hasn't been anything incremental done with the cash. Just would love to get an updated view there. And then you mentioned on the topic of Advanced Image and timelines for new products, you said some of these approvals could come in future quarters. I mean, I was just curious when you made that comment, were you talking about advanced imaging specifically?
Well, let's speak to cash and then we'll go to the organic side. We look at the
cash and think we're in
an interesting point. In the company's evolution here. On the one hand, I think that customer acceptance of our products has been really high. We're seeing I think great momentum on the clinical side in terms of clinical acceptance. We have a couple of things going on.
We have some new platforms we want to bring to the market that I think our outstanding are very well done and well conceived. That will take some investment for us to do. The other thing is that we see, proliferation of folks who want to enter the market with competitive offerings and And that's both an opportunity for us and a requirement for some diligence. And the opportunity is, some of those technologies are interesting be interesting to us. Other ones are, things where we may want to speed up or adjust our strategy as the market evolves.
As we think about the cash broadly, our first thought is, can we use the cash productively to drive future growth organically? Our second thought is, are there M and A opportunities that for the long term are good for the company to answer, but both of those are there opportunities. The 3rd are there other ways we can deploy the capital with a long term view for the benefit of shareholders. And that might be in buybacks or dividends or other things. So we're disciplined about thinking about capital allocation.
I think this is a special time in the company's history. And And we're walking through, how we think about cash with, fair amount of discipline and diligence. You had asked the question on product releases. Why don't you ask it again just to make sure I hit it?
Sure. I just you made a comment about, the timing of new product releases. And you said some will take many years and some of those approvals could come in future quarters. And I was just curious to whether that was a broad comment or whether you were specifically speaking to Advanced Imaging?
A broad comment. There are some imaging things that are that are kind of newer product things that look a lot like what we have today. And there are some long term imaging investments. And And so, the submission pipeline and our regulatory interactions are pretty full pipeline.
Thank you very much.
Okay. Thank you. And the next question is from the line of Larry Keusch of Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Gary, I just wanted to pick up on your last answer on the imaging. If you were to sort of think about all the efforts in analytics and imaging that the company is working on. And you were to take this out several years What would be the benefits to the surgeon at that time with these technologies embedded versus what's available today in XI?
Yes. It's a good question. There's a couple of things that I think drive some of the variability that you see in surgery. So it's really interesting. If you ask the question and there's some research out there, surgery in general, not just intuitive.
How much better in terms of outcomes and lower complications is the top 10th percentile surgeon versus the average surgeon. And the spread is quite big, as you look at that, there's a lot of variability in surgical performance And so you asked the question, what drives that variability? Why? And some of it, not all of it, but some of it is that, what you're looking for in visual images is subtle. Where nerves, where cancer boundaries, where are ureters, what's the right tissue dissection plane.
Those things are subtle and take time for people to, internalize and the best do it better. And so what we're trying to do here is find technologies that make it easier for other surgeons to be as good as the best. And we think that matters. Imaging will play a large role in it. So play forward a decade, what you'd really like to be able to do is mark tissues of interest in real time, paint for the surgeon what the elements and boundaries are.
That allow for a good dissection or the proper resection or the best margin performance. And that's what's really directing our investments.
Okay. That's, that's really helpful. And then, for Marshall, I guess, 2 quick ones, the per procedure revenue, Certainly, was it a lower level than we've seen in some time? You definitely mentioned, some customer buying patterns in there. So if you could just help us understand what that means.
And then on China, systems in the quarter. Just wanted to figure out where we were with the quota. Are those kind of one offs now in any given quarter?
So as it relates to a customer, my comments on customer buying patterns, we're able to measure or look at what happens with instrument and accessory usage. And from that, what we've determined is that the usage really hasn't changed a lot of surgery by surgery. And so, when we see fluctuations in what they're buying versus what they're using, there are times when they use more than they buy and times when they buy more than they use. And it just happens and it's going to, it's going to fluctuate quarter to quarter and that was my comment in the short term. And so what we saw this quarter was they used more than they purchased.
And so I don't have a great explanation for it beyond that. That's just what we see. On the other hand, we do have distributors that buy, in bulk, because they're holding inventory sell to their end customers. And we do see fluctuations in those numbers as well. So the combination of the 2 direct hospitals we sell to as well as distributors.
We can actually measure or identify what is customer buying pattern. I don't think we don't see anything there that alarms us in one way or another.
Okay. And China?
China, China, we sold, four systems this quarter. Those systems were sold to military hospitals. The quota that we were selling to, couple of past years expired at the end of the December. And we're awaiting for the government to approve a new quota we, don't have great information as to when that will occur.
Might describe the difference between military hospitals and non military hospitals and vis a vis quotas.
Yes. The quota system that we had was for public hospitals, and there is a process by which you were classified as high technology and there is a quota established by the government it's in conjunction with their normal budget process. Their normal budget process this year has been delayed. So that's why we're not sure exactly when they'll approve that. And then when we'll get a quota for it.
Military hospitals by independent of those, public hospitals and we've been selling to military hospitals all along, frankly, and have a number of placements at them.
Okay. Thank you. Next question from the line of Brandon Henry of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Yes, thanks for taking my question. Obviously, Intuitive is posted better than expected gross margins in the first half of the year. And we're all trying to figure out how sustainable that is. So could you help us try to quantify or maybe bucket into several categories what were the drivers of the year over year increase in gross margins in the first half of the year for 2016 versus the first half of the year in 20 16?
Yes, I'm not sure. We can list out item by item, a specific contribution, but we have been focusing on reducing costs for quite some time and managing our fixed costs. And we're really pleased with the progress. We look at where we sit 6 months into the year. We're at 71% year to date basis and that coincides with the upper end of the 70% to 70% 71% guidance range.
But Q2 was an exceptionally strong quarter for gross margin. And I think we wanted to leave some specific comments there specifically on the product side. We would back to higher proportion of sales of newer products as was described in lower proportion of dual console sales. And probably more sales through distributors at lower pricing and lower margins. And I think I already mentioned previously on the service side, we had some real benefits on scope exchange in the second quarter, which are unlikely to continue in the second half.
Okay. And then separately, I think you guys mentioned some slight flowing and prostatectomy growth in 2Q. Can you give us some more details on this comment and kind of discuss what's implied for prostate prostatectomy growth in the updated guidance range? Or are we now kind of through the bolus of patients that previously deferred treatment? Thanks.
Yes, Brad, it's tough to
know where exactly you are with the patient population that may have deferred treatment. What we saw in the quarter was just a slight slowing of growth from what we saw in first quarter in the second half of twenty fifteen or all, frankly, all throughout 2018. How much of that is associated with having worked through any potential bolus that may be out there is difficult to predict. So I think as you've heard us say a few times in the past, that over time, we do expect that prostatectomy volumes are likely to return towards the rate of diagnoses and our recent history and the recent growth rates we've seen in 2015 and the first half of twenty sixteen, we believe exceed that growth rate.
Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. And the next question from the line of Rick Wise of Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, everybody. Let me start off with the procedures again. I just wanted to make sure I understood the comment about the second half procedure growth slowing. Yes, I see that comps are modestly tougher. Is it something about OUS?
Is it the urology sort of recovery, if you will, slowing. Can you just help us better understand your thinking there?
Hey, Rick. Yeah, you mentioned the growth rate comparisons get a little harder second half of the year. The mature procedure contributions that we saw in the first half of the year, we don't think we'll be as strong in the second half of the year. And we continue to expect and we'll continue to drive growth in U. S.
General surgery and our overseas markets urology and early stage margin procedures.
Okay. Back on gross margin, clearly, it sounds your comments that the table motion adoption, which has been, in your words, were all received, it's been one factor helping margins. Where are we in sort of the penetration of the installed base? I mean, I mean, at 3% converted, 50% And is this a tailwind now leaving aside all the other moving factors? Is this a positive tailwind now for
a year or 2 or 3?
Yes, I don't think we want
to get into specific units on this. We're really, pleased with the progress for making in the strong market response from the customers. I think Marshall mentioned in the script, we had $6,000,000 of revenue attributable table motion. It was roughly split fifty-fifty between new installations and systems in the field. So Again, it was a strong quarter, but I think we'll see how it heads.
The history of selling back into the installed base rather than new installs that you have a few quarters of, of, strong performance and then it tends to tail off. Folks who are going to be interested in it tend to move forward quickly And then, mostly it'll be a go forward. So you can look at history to sort of give you a guide as to how much that is.
750 or so da Vinci XIs out in the world at this point in time. And we've made some progress on that. There's still some more out there.
Got you. And just one last one for you, Gary, if I could. At Sage's, this year, it was very clear that Intuitive messaging around looking at total procedure costs in the hospital for robotics and how much economic sense it made robotics makes. When I was to the looming competition, from Medtronic at their Analyst Day and your friends at Verb, they're very focused on, lowering per procedure robotic costs to, it seems like, in other words, laparoscopic levels, do you react? How do you deal?
How do you compete with that approach given their entrenched instrument, capabilities? And will your new platform address that per procedure cost aspect of positioning you to better address some of these factors? Thanks so much.
Sure. I think the first thing of, some of the messaging coming out around opportunities on price, on procedure price, I think there's a big challenge for new entrants there, which is what benefit do you bring at which price point? So, I think, you're going to have to show benefit over laparoscopy, what can be done that life can't do. And that's going to require some innovation. And some technology and that technology is going to have to be paid for.
So I think over time, folks are going to have to come out and show what it is that they plan to do to make that happen. As we look at it, I do think there are opportunities for intuitive to, manage different price points we have already. In terms of our capital line. And it's also true in our in our instrument line and we can continue to do that. So I think customers will have choice.
And the choice will be what price point do they want to enter and what benefit and value do they find at that price point, intuitive will offer multiple price points. We will give them that opportunity. We have already. We will continue to. And what value they find at what price point will be their decision.
And there's, there's so far been really, just 1 or 2 companies who have been out there having those conversations and driving it. I think we understand it reasonably well.
Is it perspective Gary?
Next question, please.
One moment. And the next question is from the line of Tal Levy of Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.
Great, thanks. Good afternoon. Your utilization per per system in the U. S, keeps on hitting sort of new highs. And so I'm just wondering where's the increase in capacity that the hospitals are finding?
Where's that coming from? Are they utilizing the work week schedules a little bit more effectively versus in prior years?
Hey, Tayo. I think it's more than one thing for me. One is, we're seeing, health systems, integrated delivery networks, optimizing the placement of their products and optimizing the flow of patients and surgeons around that product. And so that's kind of an operational efficiency at the hospital level or health system level that has been driving it. I think it's great.
It's been great for our customers and we support it. I think that the second thing is that some of the new procedure categories we're coming into allow for higher volume procedures side up single sites. So, more repeatable, shorter procedure durations give you higher utilization, just kind of the nature of the mix of product that's coming in. And lastly, I think in some of the markets, we're seeing referral consolidation. So, low volume surgeons are referring to higher volume surgeons essentially passing patients to those who do more.
And that also drives up utilization. So there are kind of multiple factors there that, that have supported the growth I don't know that it goes on forever. I don't think there's infinite growth and utilization possible, but so far so good.
Got you. And then just lastly, the percent of your applicable procedures that are currently using, the robotic vessel sealer or stapler. Do you have sort of a rough metric of where that stands today? That you can share?
Hey, Tayo. Certainly, we have seen, growth in our vessel sealer and stapler adoption each quarter over the past few years. And particularly in procedures where there's a high value associated with using those, whether it be in a colorectal or even in some gynecologic procedures and vessel sealers. There's still a lot of runway left. And in particular, as you think about the white reloads, there are only available on our XI systems as the XI installed base becomes larger, opening up more opportunities for those to be used in thoracic procedures.
There's going to be plenty of runway ahead as the installed base continues to move towards our newest technology.
You don't have like a procedure or sorry, a percent that you can share just to get a sense of how on that runway is? Okay.
Operator, we'll take one more question from one more questioner and
Okay. Thank you. Okay. And the next question is from the line of Richard Nuter of Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for squeezing me in. I just had a quick one, a follow-up on your table motion. It sounds like that product is certainly gaining traction. And, I was just curious to know, is this feature being used in procedures or new incremental procedures, does this potentially open up for you? Or could you begin to see it open up where you are and already being used today?
Yes. I think that early experience has been that it's well received, particularly by, multi quadrant general surgeons, which is really where XI was positioned in one of the big motivations for Table Motion. As frequently happens in this space, something that's a fundamental capability that's good in one place tends to have application and others. And I suspect we'll see that. And as we get more data on it, we're happy to share it with you.
That was our last question. As we've said previously, while we focus on financial metrics such as revenues, profits and cash flows, during these conference calls, our organizational focus remains on increasing value by enabling surgeons to improve surgical outcomes and reduce surgical trauma. We've built our company to take surgery beyond the limits of the human hand, and I assure you that we remain committed to driving the bottle a few things that truly make a difference. This concludes today's call. I thank you for your participation and support on this extraordinary journey to improve surgery.
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