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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

May 12, 2022

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Innovative Solutions and Support second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero.

After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Shahram Askarpour. Please go ahead.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Good morning. This is Shahram Askarpour, Chief Executive Officer of Innovative Solutions & Support. Welcome to our conference call to discuss our performance for the second quarter of fiscal 2022, current business conditions, and outlook for coming years. Joining me is Rell Winand, our CFO. Before we begin, I'd like Rell to read the safe harbor statement.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you, Shahram, and good morning, everyone. I would remind our listeners that certain matters discussed in the conference call today, including new products and operational and financial results for future periods, are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, either better or worse from those discussed, including other risks and uncertainties reflected in our company's 10-K, which is on file with the SEC and other public filings. Now I'll turn the call back to Shahram.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you, Rell. In the second quarter, we continued our steady growth with revenues up 34%, earnings up 135%, and nearly $2 million of cash added to our financial position. Together with our strong first quarter, this is one of the best first six months in six years. At the foundation of our aftermarket business, we believe we have excellent products in attractive growing markets, including our award-winning autothrottle and flat panel displays for air cargo conversions.

As our OEM product base continues to grow, our aftermarket equipment is being installed on some of the world's most popular aircraft by the most highly respected owners, operators, and aircraft manufacturers, both domestically and internationally. We have been known through the industry for our compelling price for performance product for over 30 years, and we plan to remain so for many more.

This is our formula for success. Now let me discuss our recent results and future. Revenues in the second quarter were up 34%, which led to gross margins of over 61%, our highest margins in six years.

Our model can consistently generate attractive margins as we achieve scale. This quarter, we continued to generate revenues from both our stable OEM production contracts, which offer a solid base of predictable recurring revenue, and from the air cargo retrofit market, where we are experiencing strong demand for our cockpit upgrades.

Because our production OEM contracts extend out over several years, and there does not seem to be any decrease in pace of the air cargo conversions, we believe we have a solid foundation for growth. Resultingly, our strategy to continue our growth and create shareholder value is straightforward. We will continue to innovate our existing products and develop new products.

One development which I'm enthusiastic about is our new process to reduce autothrottle installation time on King Air retrofits. We are now in the process of receiving a certification from the FAA to introduce a product installation service for our King Air customers.

Essentially, our new program flies our highly trained and FAA-certified technicians to the King Air owners' hangars, where the installation is completed at their site, saving owners both time and money.

No longer will the owners need to fly their aircraft to a dealer where it is parked for a week or possibly longer while the dealer tries to schedule and ultimately perform the installation. Our marketing research results indicate that offering this service would accelerate the adoption rate of aftermarket King Air and PC-12 customers.

We're also broadening our product market potential by developing new autothrottle technology, not just for turbofans such as CJ aircraft, but for many other variations of King Air and other aircraft as well. As part of this strategy, we will continue to invest in research and development.

Note that this quarter we maintained a high level of investment in R&D, including customer-sponsored R&D. After a long period where we were relatively dormant due to the pandemic-level restrictions, we are ramping up our sales and marketing activity, attending more trade shows, meeting face-to-face with customers, and performing more customer test flights. Consequently, after our typical winter slowdown, orders picked up nicely in the last few months, and we ended the quarter with an increase in backlog compared to December 31st.

This has also led to increasing level of interest from militaries around the world that rely on the dependable King Airs for air ambulance and surveillance. I mentioned the military's growing interest last quarter, and I'm encouraged by the level of intensity to which those discussions have risen. Like many other manufacturers, we are battling inflation, supply chain challenges, and labor availability.

To continue to support our customers, we have added safety stocks to our inventory while managing to keep expense increases modest relative to our overall growth. As of today, we don't foresee any major disruption to our operations from any of the factors, including the conflict in Ukraine or the lockdown in China. In fact, we have experienced growing sales and earnings through the pandemic, strained supply chains, inflation, and many other issues.

As some of our end markets begin to improve and pandemic-imposed restrictions are lifted, we feel confident that we are well-positioned to build this success and continue to generate steady financial results. Now I'd like to turn it over to Rell to review our financials in more detail.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you, Shahram, and thank you all for joining us this morning. For the second quarter, revenues were $6.8 million, up 34% from $5.1 million a year ago. Revenues in our general aviation business in the quarter remained strong as we continued to ship product under the PC-24 and Textron King Air long-term OEM contracts.

In commercial air transport, there have been no letup in the demand for our flat panel display systems for air cargo conversions. In addition to our PC-24 and the King Air autothrottle OEM production programs, we continue to enjoy steady, predictable revenue from our Boeing KC-46A production contract.

Our revenues in any one quarter are largely determined by customer production schedules, and lately, these production schedules have been on the rise with, for instance, Textron reporting continued growth in the sale of its general aviation aircraft, while Pilatus continues to run at a high production rate.

In addition, customer service revenues remained strong as sales in the quarter were up 12% from a year ago. Total new orders in the quarter were approximately $8.2 million, so that we finished the quarter with a backlog of $7.5 million, which is compared to $6.2 million at the end of last calendar year. Gross margins for the quarter were the best in the, in over six years at 61.1%, up from 56.7% in the year ago quarter, as well as up sequentially from 59.3% last quarter.

Margins continued to trend in line with historical averages, with any fluctuation from quarter to quarter primarily attributable to product mix as well as leveraging our fixed manufacturing costs achieved through revenue growth. With better than 30% revenues growth in each of the last two quarters compared to the year ago quarters, you can see that margins have been running at a very high level.

As Shahram mentioned, our model can sustain attractive margins as we scale the business. Total operating expenses for the second quarter of fiscal 2022 were $2.4 million or 35% of revenue, compared to $2.3 million or 45% of revenue a year ago. Research and development was down compared to a year ago. We continue to target 10%-12% of revenue for R&D.

Selling general administrative expenses were up marginally from the year ago quarter due to both our growth over the past year as well as some relaxation in public health restrictions. We have been resuming marketing spend on in-person trade shows, customer visits, and the like. We believe quarterly operating expenses level will remain in the current range.

For the quarter, we generated operating income of $1.8 million, nearly triple last year's $611,000. Return on sales in the quarter was 26.4% and more than double the 11.9% recorded last year. We recorded taxes of $390,000 in the quarter, in line with our anticipated 21% rate for the year and reflecting that we have fully utilized all of our tax NOLs.

Net income for the quarter was $1.4 million or $0.08 per share, an increase from $608,000 or $0.04 per share in the year ago quarter. The company remains in a strong financial position. We generated $1.9 million of operating cash flow in the second quarter and $3.4 million over the first half of fiscal 2022.

At quarter end, March 31st, we had $11.6 million of cash on hand. As previously discussed on the fiscal year earnings call in December, the company anticipates that due to the ongoing supply chain issues and challenges as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, we will continue to maintain a slightly higher than normal level of inventory as an added measure of precaution.

The company is debt-free. We believe that the company has sufficient cash to fund operations in the foreseeable future. Now I'd like to turn the call back to Shahram for some closing remarks.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you, Rell. The first half of 2022 has been one of our most profitable in many years. Our production contract customers are experiencing strong demand for aircraft where our autothrottle is standard equipment, and the air cargo conversion market remains robust. Backlog is up. We've increased our marketing efforts, and new products and services are on the way.

We have built a strong operational team dedicated to value creating innovation, and our plan to continue strengthening the organization as we grow the business. We have an arsenal of great technology at our disposal with an energetic and enthusiastic team dedicated to execute on our growth plans. We will now open the floor for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from David Campbell with Thompson Davis & Co. Please go ahead.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for doing such a great job managing the company without the help of our friend Geoff Hedrick. He's looking on and must be very proud of what you've been producing. Congratulations on a great quarter.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

I just wanted to ask you this question, a couple of questions about the cargo market. There's no immediate concern, I think, but Can you tell us what aircraft types that you've been providing the new flat panels for the conversions?

I am a little concerned about the cargo conversion market because, you know, right now it's been boosted a lot by the lack of capacity in the air freight market between the United States and China. That's bound to end sooner or later. We'll get flight capacity back there. I don't know whether the air cargo conversions are ready for that, for that increase in capacity that's likely to come later. Do you have any comments on all that?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

I mean, so far what we're seeing is that new airlines actually adding cargo capacity and introducing cargo services. They seem, still, there is a heavy reliance on the 757, 767 platform. We continue seeing orders on those platforms from various airlines internationally as well as domestically.

We every quarter receive orders. Indications that we get is more cargo conversions. Obviously, what limits it is at the rate they can do cargo conversions on the 767 and 757s. There's only a few places in the world that can do that conversion. Our market shows that, at least for foreseeable future, there's no slowdown of that activity.

We constantly look at what other features and capabilities we can add to our existing base. We have over 500 existing customers with our cockpits in 757 and 767 platforms as well as 737. Our product development efforts, we look at additional features that we can provide the existing customers as well as the new customers.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

Have you seen any demand for 737s and Airbus models for the conversions?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Look, currently, we don't have a solution for the Airbus models. We do have a solution for the 737. We see from some of existing customers that they're growing their fleet, and we get indications that there will be future procurements of some of our equipment. For right now, majority of what we see is from the 757 and mainly 767 conversions.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

All right. Well, there seems to be an increasing interest in Airbus conversions, so, is there something that keeps you from getting into that business? You just had to develop the product?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Yes. Again, we continually look at the market, the competition, and whether there is a need. When we see that something like that is gonna become feasible, then we deploy our engineering resources towards that platform.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

Right. Rell, these profit margins are 61%. As long as revenues are this high, do you see any reason why those margins should go down?

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

I don't see that. I mean, the only thing and the way we quote and stuff hope it won't affect us would be any kind of a material cost, but we seem to be handling that very well. I don't see why it can't stay in that range. You know, we've been, you know, lately in what, the 58%-60% range. It depends on product mix a little bit. Yeah, if the sales hold, I think we'll be fine.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

What about a tax rate the rest of the year? Did you say 23%?

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Well, 21%.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

21%.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

More like 21.4%, you know, some state tax effect. You know, if you want to ballpark, it's 21%. I think it was 21.2% the quarter before, you know. It inched up a little bit, but for big picture, 21% works.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

Well, that's great. The King Air conversions, I assume you've been getting orders for those King Air conversions, and now you can do it faster. You'll probably get more orders. Is that the way to look at it?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

That's what we are anticipating. Once we get this, we're right now seeking approvals from FAA that allow us to do our own installation.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Right

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

remotely. Once we get that, again, what we've seen from the marketing efforts that we did, there is reasonable interest from the customer base to utilize that remote installation capability that we will have.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

They like the convenience of it, you know.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

All right. The last question is, with the company growing as fast as it is and demand for services increasing, are you adding new employees in engineering or in sales or what, where are you to help speed that along?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

We do that on an as-needed basis. I think it's more important to find the right people to add on than just add on people. We spend a lot of effort in the interview process as well as judiciously looking at potential candidates. We grow our employee base steadily, and we continue to do that as revenues grow.

David Campbell
SVP Research Analyst, Thompson Davis & Co.

All right. Thanks. I'll let someone else have questions.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thanks, David.

Operator

Again, as a reminder, if you have a question, please press star then one to be joined into the queue. The next question comes from Michael Friedrich with a private investor. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning, everyone. Wanted to get back to a little more information on the new retrofit process. Can you give us some idea of the amount of time it will take for the conversion to take place? I believe last month, or the last call, we had talked about the idea of you folks keeping more kits on hand, and there was other attempts to speed up the process.

Just maybe give us an idea of how quickly this can be done. Also, you know, a little more information on the feedback you've been hearing from potential customers on how quickly the uptake will be on this.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Sure. Our internal process to do the installation, we're looking at a one-week installation. We're looking at doing that at customer's facility. There is a level of convenience that provides the customer. Number one is that they don't have to fly their airplane somewhere. It's done right at their facility.

They don't have to go through the inconvenience of putting their airplane down in a third-party location and then go back home and then go back over there to get their airplane and come back. As well as, it's the installation is gonna be done by the factory experts where we actually train other installers. Those people are gonna go do the installation for them.

I think about something like 75% of the people that we approached directly and did a survey on indicated that this would increase their decision-making process because of the convenience. We decided based on that to go ahead and get approval from the FAA so we can offer this service.

Speaker 5

Okay. You said the people who will be doing the installation, will they be ISSC employees or will they be a third-party vendor?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Right now we plan on them being ISSC employees.

Speaker 5

Okay. Approximately how many like crews or how many of these can be done at a time? Will you just hire as needed, or are you ready to go with a couple of teams, or how many are we talking about here?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

We always start with one team and then grow the team as market demand. We see market demand.

Speaker 5

Okay. Real quick, guys, you had touched a little bit on the military end for the King Airs. Can you give me an idea of approximately how large that marketplace is?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

I think if you look at it internationally, there's probably close to 1,000 King Airs out there in the military service.

Speaker 5

Oh, nice.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Various government operations.

Speaker 5

Okay.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Some of the features we provide for special mission as part of our autothrottle functionality makes it very attractive.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Got it.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

I guess in this last quarter, in Q2-

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Yes.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

We had a fleet operator which actually leased out their airplanes, I believe, to the U.S. government. They bought for their fleet our autothrottle.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Yeah.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

They're in the process of installing it. So we're beginning to see. Of course, on the military side, everything takes a long time. They gotta approve it, then they got to want it.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

It's a process.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Then they gotta put in for the budget. It takes. It doesn't happen overnight.

Speaker 5

Right. Yeah. Sure. Do you have to get approvals in every country, or are you able to use FAA approvals to be able to provide these upgrades in other countries?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

It depends on the country, but right now I think we got approvals for about 40 countries.

Speaker 5

Okay.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Um-

Speaker 5

Oh, that's great. That's great.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

If you offer FAA, they take FAA. Some have their own. It all depends on the country.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Some of them accept the EASA approval.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Yeah, that's true too.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Uh, so.

Speaker 5

Great. Well, congratulations, guys. I mean, one nice part is that it's nice to see sales coming back a little bit, but there's no question about it by looking at the income statement that the company's being run very efficiently. Hopefully when those numbers kick in on the top line, most of that'll go straight to the bottom. Keep going, guys, and congratulations.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you so much.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you very much.

Operator

One final time, if you have a question, you may press star then one if you would like to ask a question. The next question comes from Roger Goldman, a private investor. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Good morning, and well done, guys. As you know, my dad started investing in the company about 10 years ago, and my sister and I have inherited that and also inherited the belief in the company, and it feels like all systems are go. Nice job. Our patience is being rewarded. Just a couple of questions.

Obviously, the future is very bright. Also, obviously, you have a lot of cash, and that cash has real value, particularly as we go into a recession, and particularly with rising interest rates. I'm not necessarily lobbying for a dividend. I am lobbying for good use of the cash. I would actually hope that you guys are actively looking at acquisitions and maybe more rapidly expanding your distribution.

I think in this kind of environment with the product mix and margins you have, fortune favors the bold. With 5 months' worth of, soon to be 6 months' worth of cash and no bank debt, you're in a really great position to take care of this location. I would just encourage you, and again, I certainly would like a dividend, but frankly, I'd rather see you use the money to expand faster.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Yeah.

Speaker 6

You wanna comment on that?

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Without making too much comments on that, we do plan to use the cash judiciously. I don't believe there is any plans on paying out any dividends.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

No. No.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

At the moment. I'm in your camp with regards to use of cash.

Speaker 6

Yeah. I mean, if you said on the next call, "Hey, we're gonna invest $1.5 million or $2 million in something, you know, to expand our distribution network or expand the R&D or whatever," you know, I'd vote for that.

I don't think stock buybacks are a good idea because that says you have nothing better to do with the money, and I don't think dividends in a growth company are necessarily a good idea. Frankly, I don't think six months' worth of cash on the balance sheet, no public plans to spend it, and no bank debt is a good idea either.

I'm speaking as somebody who spent his career in banking, so, I'd really like to see you guys be more aggressive, I guess, is what I'm saying. I think you have a lot of room to be aggressive without betting the company. I just wanna encourage that. I mean, you know.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you very much.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you for those comments.

Speaker 6

Yeah. I mean, you guys are doing a great job, just more. Remember when everybody else is running away, that's when you should run towards. We're gonna be in an economic condition now where a lot of people are gonna get very scared. That creates nothing but opportunity for small, nimble competitors.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Hear you.

Speaker 6

You know, I can just speak for my sister, and we're with you on that.

Relland Winand
CFO, Innovative Solutions & Support

All right. Well, thank you for your confidence in the company and us. Appreciate it.

Shahram Askarpour
CEO, Innovative Solutions & Support

Thank you very much.

Speaker 6

Okay.

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