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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Oct 26, 2022

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to The Kraft Heinz Company's third-quarter results. At this time, all participants are in a listen- only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there'll be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you need to press star one one on your telephone. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Anne-Marie Megela, Head of Global Investor Relations. You may begin.

Anne-Marie Megela
Head of Global Investor Relations, The Kraft Heinz Company

Thank you and hello everyone. This is Anne-Marie Megela, Head of Global Investor Relations at The Kraft Heinz Company, and welcome to our Q&A session for our third quarter 2022 business update. During today's call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding our expectations for the future, including related to our business plans and expectations, strategy, efforts and investments and related timing and expected impacts. These statements are based on how we see things today and actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties. Please see the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in today's earnings release, which accompanies this call, as well as our most recent 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K filings for more information regarding these risks and uncertainties. Additionally, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures which exclude certain items from our financial results reported in accordance with GAAP.

Please refer to today's earnings release and the non-GAAP information available on our website at ir.kraftheinzcompany.com under News and Events for a discussion of our non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures. Before we begin, I'm going to hand it over to our CEO, Miguel Patricio for some brief opening comments.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Well, thank you Anne-Marie and thank you everyone for joining us here today. We are excited. We are proud. We delivered another quarter of strong results and we see consumer demand remaining strong and elasticities, they continue to hold. We see our portfolio of iconic brands strong and very adequate for the moment that we are living. We continue investing in these brands and seeing that this investment is paying off. Yet at the same time, we realize, we know that supply chain remains challenging, particularly with inflation and material shortages. I'm proud of the teams as they continue to anticipate and adapt to these challenges. Where we improved capacity and were able to meet demands, we actually gained share.

At the same time, we continue to advance our transformation, and including modernizing our marketing and transforming our portfolio. As we look ahead, we continue cautiously optimistic. We are providing our consumers with solutions that they value and we continue to unlock efficiencies and reinvest in the business, all of which makes us stronger and positions us well for whatever challenges are still to come. With that, we are very happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you ladies and gentlemen. If you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star one one on your touch-tone telephone. We'll pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Andrew Lazar with Barclays. Your line is open.

Andrew Lazar
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Great. Thanks so much. I guess maybe to start, the company had moderated its EBITDA expectations back in September for its third quarter, when you were already about two months into the quarter. Today, you not only beat those expectations but came in above the initial guidance as well. So what came in better than you thought? Are there any timing issues to be aware of that might impact 4Q as a result? Maybe more importantly, do these fluctuations give you any pause with respect to visibility into the business with the understanding that it's obviously still a very dynamic environment?

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Andrew, thank you for the question and, you may answer this one.

Andre Maciel
EVP and Global CFO, The Kraft Heinz Company

Sure. Good morning, Andrew. Good morning to you. Andrew, first of all, we feel, as Miguel said at the beginning, I think we feel very excited and pleased with the results we achieved in the quarter. I'll tell you that a lot of things happened in our favor throughout the month of September. First of all, if you might remember, we had executed a new price increase in the month of August, and the elasticity turned out to be stronger than what we anticipated, which resulted in strong top line. Shipments were very good. I think our team did a great job in the month of September to be able to ship in a much better pace than earlier in the quarter, which also helped it.

We end up spending less promotion also that we had initially anticipated, which is a sign as well that we're being very prudent to put only the promotion that makes sense in our portfolio. Finally, we did have about $30 million one-time FX gains in the P&L, 80% in cost, 20% in SG&A. Those are mostly anticipations from Q4. Okay. That we're able to do in assuming Q3. Obviously, we also had a little contingency, the number given the volatility, right? All in all, I think we're able to have a lot of those things play in our favor. I think it's a testimony here that our organization is moving with the speed and reacting faster to adversities.

Remember that we maintain the guidance for the year in Q3, right? So I think we felt confident about the number that's delivered, and I think we're just reinforcing that now by raising the floor. You can count on us always to be maintaining a transparent dialogue and being timely, in a very timely fashion, like we did back in September when we had the first news about the new inflationary pressure. Great. Great. That's very helpful. Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.

Operator

One moment for our next question. The next question comes from Ken Goldman with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Ken Goldman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi. Thanks so much. You know, you mentioned that your supply chain tightness is still mostly caused by, you know, factors from your upstream suppliers. This is not an uncommon refrain. We're certainly hearing this from, you know, many of your peers. I'm just curious, can you maybe help us better understand what the specific issues are? You mentioned disruptions, I guess, on ingredients and packaging. Does this suggest that the issues are somewhat temporary, they can fade when the disruptions have passed? Or are there maybe some structural problems, I guess, that could take longer to fix? Thank you.

Andre Maciel
EVP and Global CFO, The Kraft Heinz Company

Okay, Carlos, I think that's related to you. Go ahead, please. Yeah. What I would say, first of all, thank you for the question. You know, what I'll say is that I think you can see that the environment continues to be challenging. What I'm really proud is the fact that our team is doing a terrific job of working through the wave of challenges. As we speak, we are both rebuilding inventory and improving service levels. And we have done that through the quarter sequentially in this quarter. I think we continue to see that going forward. I think if I take a step back in terms of overall constraints, what I see is about 80% of those challenges are really due to upstream supply disruptions on ingredients and certain packaging materials.

At the same time, what I'll say is it's very asynchronous the way they're recovering. You'll see that in some cases, we are moving quickly and recovering overall in our supply chain. There are a few ingredients that have been a little tighter for us. You know, I point to things like have affected us in the past on things like cold cuts and cream cheese. At the same time, even in those categories, we now have recovered and feel good about kind of our position as we go towards the end of the year.

Ken Goldman
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Got it. Thank you.

Andre Maciel
EVP and Global CFO, The Kraft Heinz Company

Thank you.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Bryan Spillane with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Bryan Spillane
Managing Director, Equity Research, Bank of America

Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. Maybe build on the previous two questions. As you're kind of looking at the current environment now, you know, dealing with what you're dealing with with you know suppliers and you know seeing what you're seeing in the marketplace, is there any reason that we shouldn't expect that your long-term targets, which you know you laid out back in or you talked a bit about back in September are achievable you know are targets that we should expect that those are achievable for 2023? Is this environment still maybe too volatile to be in line with what your long-term targets would be?

Andre Maciel
EVP and Global CFO, The Kraft Heinz Company

Andre may want to answer this question. Sure. Good morning, Bryan. Look, as we said back in CAGNY, when we unveiled our new long-term growth algorithm, we expect to get there over the years. Think of it in terms of three years or so. We feel good in our continued improvement in our performance, and we expect to continue to move towards the algorithm the way that we have communicated back then. We are obviously not ready to give any guidance around 2023, but yes, the environment is still volatile, as you have been hearing from us and probably from others in the sector about supply chain volatility, which has consequences on availability and the speed of easing of costs.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Chris Growe, Stifel. Your line is open.

Chris Growe
Managing Director, Stifel

Hi. Good morning. I just had a quick question for you, in relation to, you showed in one of your charts, in the slide deck, private label gaining more share in your categories. It also showed Kraft Heinz doing much better in its categories as well. As we look across the store, private label share has been up at a lesser rate over the past few months, although it seems like it's gone up a little bit more so in your categories. I just want to get a sense of if you see incremental risk in your categories from private label share gains as you take more pricing, or you have more pricing that's been put in place. Then just any change in your thoughts on elasticity in relation to your pricing, which has been very favorable for your business. Thank you.

Andre Maciel
EVP and Global CFO, The Kraft Heinz Company

Good morning, Chris. Andre, do you wanna answer that question? Sure. Thanks for the question. On private label, a few things. First of all, as you have been continuously reiterating, our exposure to private label have reduced significantly after the two divestitures we made last year. Now the average market share in our portfolio is about 11%, whereas across food and beverage, 20%. That we are more protected. Second, during the past three years, as part of our transformation, we have been redirecting a lot of our effort and energy around the core. Resources have moved there. We have been renovating the core in a very systematic way, so our portfolio is stronger. Third, the private label have been increasing the price together with the rest of the players.

As recent as the last four weeks, including already three weeks of October, looking at sellout data, our sellout price is about 17% up, whereas private label is 16% up. Price gaps are widely preserved.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

You might have seen as well in one of the schedules that we provided that comparing Q2 to Q3, the price gap to private label remains the same. We do not see any category where our price gap expanded versus private label, except ketchup, certain vegetables, which honestly, the interaction is limited and we can't share in both of these categories. Yes, I think we feel good about that. Obviously, we don't wanna be naive and overly optimistic that depending on how consumers eventually shift behavior in a very drastic way, things can change, but there is no indication of that as of right now. Honestly, I mean, despite all the environment, food is proving to be very resilient. The brands are yet being very resilient.

With unemployment the way it is right now, when I was here back in 2008, 2011, we only started to see accelerated shift in behavior when unemployment started to go up, which is far from the reality today. Yeah. I think what I would say is, you know, we have continued to invest in the equity of our brands, which, you know, if we think about the fact that, you know, some companies really don't have pricing power. Brands have pricing power. The investment we have made with the quality of the marketing we have improved here at Kraft Heinz and the commitment we have to continue to invest in our brands going forward, also gives us some confidence as we continue to manage through the current environment. Thanks for your question. Thank you.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Alexia Howard. Your line is open.

Alexia Howard
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Bernstein

Good morning, everyone.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Morning. Morning, Alexia.

Alexia Howard
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Bernstein

Okay. I look at the lineup of products on page 19 of the presentation, and they really do seem to be meeting the moment in terms of the consumer need for convenience and affordability. I'm just wondering about your thoughts on the recent White House conference on hunger, health and nutrition that happened last month for the first time in 50 years, I think. There were a lot of initiatives coming out of that with respect to front of pack labels, a very tight definition of what a healthy food is, educating consumers and health professionals on the importance of good nutrition. I wonder just how your

It may be too soon, but how you're thinking about those types of developments in the industry over the coming months and years, and how that might shape your plans for innovation, and the portfolio going forward. Thank you, and I'll pass it on.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Let me, Alexia, start answering this question, and then see if Carlos wants to comment. Nutrition is part of our long-term strategy. It's part of our agenda. It's a very important part of our ESG goals for the future. We've been renovating our portfolio throughout the years, you know, reducing or eliminating dyes and artificial ingredients. We have, you know, a global agenda, a very specific agenda on reducing salt and sugar, which are two critical things in our portfolio that we have a responsibility to do. We are on the way to achieve the targets that we put in place until 2025. I mean, just to give you an example, we changed the formulation of our Capri Sun this year.

We reduced 40% of sugar content, and that, to put it in perspective, just that is 40 million pounds of sugar per year that we reduced. We continue committed to that for the short, the medium and the long term to make our products more nutritious. Yeah. What I would add to Miguel's point, which I think is right on, is the fact that this is a commitment we have for the long term. You know, every single time we are renovating our portfolio, we're putting in kind of the view of how do we continue to improve our products overall, not just because it's the right thing to do, but also because that's what consumers want us to do. I think that is happening, and you obviously can.

You can see it very clearly in terms of commitment to sugar reduction, to salt reduction, how do we continue to work with communities in improving the food insecurity situation. This is something that as a company we are committed to and we'll continue to as we go forward. We are, you know, the biggest buyer of tomatoes and beans and in the heart we are an agricultural company and we've been investing a lot in that sense in plant-based. I mean, you see what we are doing in Europe with our beans, with the project of launching new beans-based products with Heinz beans burgers, with Heinz beans hummus, protein pots, and a portfolio of innovation for the next five years related to that.

Here in the U.S., we are very proud to announce this week that we are launching our plant-based cheese, which by the way is an incredible product, very different from what is in the market. It melts, it tastes like cheese. It smells like cheese and melts like cheese. It is very different from everything that is in the market. We're absolutely committed to the nutritional agenda.

Alexia Howard
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Bernstein

Wonderful. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Steven Powers with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Steven Powers
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yes. Hey, good morning. I wanted to ask on gross margin progression. Across the consumer goods space broadly, I think we're beginning to see more signs and evidence of gross margin stabilization, if not recovery, with results across many companies either coming in ahead of consensus expectations or improving sequentially, or even starting to improve year-over-year. You know, every portfolio is obviously different, but you're not yet in that position. I'm curious as to just how you're thinking about the progress of gross margin, what kind of framing of expectations we should have going into the fourth quarter, and the prospects for improvement as we build into fiscal 2023.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Andre, you may answer this question, please. Sure. Thanks for the question. Look, as I said all along, we have been pricing to protect the dollar inflation, so dollar for dollar. We have been doing that now for the second quarter in a row. Both in Q2 and now in Q3, price was in line with inflation and price plus gross efficiencies was ahead of inflation. Given that we had in Q3, as we initially said back in September, some incremental pressure in selected places, and we took action already on it, there is this continuous lagging effect. We expect Q3 to be the bottom of our gross margin, and you should expect to see a sequential improvement in Q4 in comparison to Q3.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from David Palmer with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

David Palmer
Senior Managing Director, Evercore ISI

Thank you. Just to follow up on some of the supply chain stuff. Your case fill rates in your slide deck, you say they were in the low 90s% in the third quarter, and that's better than the high 80s% that it was in the first quarter. I was slightly surprised to see that fill rate was the same as Q2. Is that a result of that upstream supplier effect that you're talking about? I'm wondering, you know, how you're thinking about progress there. Do you have visibility to getting that fill rate back? I'm sure you wanna get back to the high 90s%. When could we expect bigger leaps and improvement in fill rates? Thanks.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

David, thanks for the question. Carlos, please. Yeah. Listen, what I'll say is that's exactly what you said. It is connected to the availability of certain ingredients in the upstream, but at the same time, you know, our commitment with our customers is to continue to improve that. I'll tell you that as we continue to navigate the situation in terms of those capacity constraints, what I'll say is that we also are looking to see how we differently with the capacity that we have available to us. Let me give you a couple examples of how we're doing that. We actually are ingesting data directly from our customers in a way that allows us to better deploy our inventory to reduce out of stocks.

We started that with a pilot with one particular retailer, and that allows us to actually reduce the amount of inventory by 40%, the out of stocks in their stores, but by 40% in a period of about eight weeks. We now have expanded that program, and now we're ingesting more data from different customers that allows us to then make sure that we are then putting the right inventory in the right stores and bringing the right signals into our production so that we can maximize the availability capacity that we have in our plants. It's both working upstream to the supplier, but it's also us being smarter and better capabilities internally to deploy our inventory to improve overall, service levels, which we're committed to do. Thanks for the question.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from John Baumgartner with Mizuho. Your line is open.

John Baumgartner
Managing Director and Senior Consumer Equity Research Analyst, Mizuho

Good morning. Thanks for the question. Miguel, wondering if you can touch on the nice reversal you had in Q3 regarding market shares relative to your branded competition. How would you break that down between the benefits from some of the supply chain constraints easing, the pricing differentials in the market, as opposed to how much of that is derived from just underlying changes to your execution in the market on more of a like-for-like basis? How sustainable do you think that performance will be in the share gains versus brands going forward? Thank you.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Thanks for the question. Let me give you my perspective and then Carlos can go further on that answer, all right? We are excited to keep the levels of market share even with the problems that we continue facing on supply. I mean, we would be gaining a lot of share if we would not be facing still shortages on raw materials. A good proof of that is like Capri Sun and Lunchables, where in previous quarters we had problems with supply, shortage of raw materials, we lost share, and now we are rocketing record share gains on these two brands. I actually am optimistic that we can move further on market share. Carlos, please. Yeah.

Carlos Abrams-Rivera
EVP and President, The Kraft Heinz Company

I would say is to build Miguel's point, you know, this is a combination of the continuing investments that we have made in renovating our brands. Investment in improving the quality of our marketing communication, and then, as you said, unlocking some of the capacity in some key brands. I think the example Miguel gave around Lunchables about the Capri Sun, in which we saw the improvement on inventory and CFR, and then our ability to actually then go into market and then drive event-based promotions that allows us to then continue to grow those particular categories during the back-to-school period, which was basically a phenomenal result for us in terms of performance.

As we go forward, you know, when you see the places that we continue to have challenges in terms of capacity, we know that once we unlock those, we also have an opportunity to then continue to grow our consumption as we go forward. Those, as I said before, areas like our cold cuts and cream cheese that are slowly getting into better position in our inventory, and now as we go into the holidays, making sure we protect the ability to then go into those event-based promotions, it's during the time of year that consumers are looking for our brands.

You know, when you take a step back, I will say it's a great combination of the work we have done over the last year and a half for us to improve internally the equity of our company, and at the same time now see the benefit of us being able to now go back into the marketplace in a more aggressive way, that allows us to then continue to drive consumption and whole penetration in our brands.

Operator

Thank you.

Anne-Marie Megela
Head of Global Investor Relations, The Kraft Heinz Company

Operator, we have time for one more question.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

For one moment.

Reduce about half of our SKUs that we had in 2019. At the same time, we have improved quality. Then finally, we continue to enhance our rural distribution, overall. Now, part of the point that you made around how do we continue to unlock some of the opportunities we have in QSR is us continue to invest in the capacity of the business. We're also making strong investments in CapEx in order for us to support the opportunity for us to continue growing, in our food service channel. Over the last two years, that number is over $100 million we have invested. So that allows us now the opportunity to have those conversations with QSR in a way that truly unlocks opportunities for us to continue growing. Now, that's a view of North America.

Let me pass it on to Rafael to give you a view also of our international side.

Rafael Oliveira
International Zone President, The Kraft Heinz Company

Yes. Look, it's not very similar to that. The opportunity in food service is significant, and you can see has been a core pillar for our results in the last few years, and the quarter is no different. You can see that, the numbers we released, we are growing actually very fast and twice the size of the industry, twice the rate of the industry. You can attribute that part of it was the slowdown that happened during the pandemic. A lot of the, across international, we do compete with some global players, but also with some local players, and a lot of them specialize in food service, that during the pandemic, they suffer a lot, and some of them either went bankrupt or had to downsize significantly their operations. We didn't.

We maintained the same level of investments and consequently coming out of the pandemic in most of the countries across the world. I mean, we are riding ahead of it. We continue to be excited, and QSR is the core. Our products, especially within the sauces environment, goes very hand in hand with the QSR industry. We still have a long way to go. I mean, our estimate with the data available is that we are about between 3% and 4% market share of the sauces category of food service. There is significant room ahead, and we are gonna continue to do that, driving our chef-led model, where we have invested in chefs that partner with those customers, drive innovations that have been very well received.

It should be a continuous source of growth, sustainable growth for us.

Operator

Okay, great. Thank you.

Anne-Marie Megela
Head of Global Investor Relations, The Kraft Heinz Company

Thank you, operator. I'm now gonna hand it over to Miguel for some closing commentary.

Miguel Patricio
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, The Kraft Heinz Company

Well, I would like to finish with a quote from a famous legendary car racer on Formula One that once said, "If it's raining, I can pass 15 cars, but when it's sunny, I cannot." Let me tell you, it's not raining, it's pouring. We are super excited at this moment because we are seeing this a great moment of opportunity, and we've been able to navigate through the uncertainties of the short term and adapt and rebuild very fast at the same time that we are continue building our future. We are excited with what we have ahead of us. Thank you very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.

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