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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

Apr 26, 2018

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Q1 2018 Kilroy Realty Corporation earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone, and to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note that today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tyler H. Rose, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. On the call with me today are John Kilroy, Jeff Hawken, David Simon, Steve Rosetta, Heidi Roth, Tracy Murphy, Rob Paratte, Eliott Trencher, and Michelle Ngo. At the outset, I need to say that some of the information we will be discussing is forward-looking in nature. Please refer to our supplemental package for a statement regarding the forward-looking information in this call and in the supplemental. This call is being telecast live on our website and will be available for replay for the next 8 days, both by phone and over the internet. Our earnings release and supplemental package have been filed on a Form 8-K with the SEC, and both are also available on our website. John will start the call with a review of the first quarter.

Jeff will discuss conditions in our key markets, I'll finish up with financial highlights and a review of our updated 2018 earnings guidance that was published yesterday in our earnings release. We'll be happy to take your questions. John?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Thank you, Tyler. We're off to a great start this year, are particularly encouraged by the strength we continue to see across our West Coast markets. We've reported solid first-quarter financial results, with both FFO per share and same-store results exceeding our expectations. Across our stabilized portfolio, we signed new or renewing leases on approximately 300,000 sq ft of space that were up 26% on a GAAP basis and 15% on a cash basis. We continue to backfill our four material 2018 expirations ahead of schedule. We re-leased approximately 70% of the expiring space in Bellevue and are making excellent progress on the two San Diego expirations. As we reported on our last call, we commenced construction on phase one of The Academy on Vine, our mixed-use development project in the Hollywood submarket, acquired three lab buildings in South San Francisco's major biotechnology hub of Oyster Point.

Let me provide some more color. Market conditions are showing remarkable strength across the West Coast region. Generally, we're seeing declining vacancy rates, higher leasing volumes, increased rents, limited supply, and increased demand across our markets. The fundamentals are amongst the strongest we've seen in the cycle so far, with big tech and big content creators continuing to grow and the FIRE category following. Seattle remains one of the best-performing markets in the country. Bay Area fundamentals continue to improve both on the office and life science fronts, and new supply remains limited. Los Angeles continues to be the recipient of growth from many industries, including entertainment and content creation. In San Diego, we're seeing the leasing velocity increase over the past six months coming from a broad cross-section of industries, including defense, technology, life science, and the FIRE category.

The market's strength is evident in our leasing success, where we continue to make progress on our 2018 expirations as well as future expirations. As a reminder, late last year, we backfilled all of the expiring Delta Dental space at 100 First Street with Okta. In Seattle, we signed 97,000 sq ft of leases so far this year with various tenants at Skyline Tower and Bellevue. The majority of these leases will replace the 111,000 sq ft move-out we had in February by Valve Corporation. Cash rents on the new leases were higher by 59%, and GAAP rents were higher by 86% when compared to the prior lease. In San Diego, we are in advanced discussions to backfill more than half of the expiring Bridgepoint Education space on the I-15 corridor.

Assuming we are successful in completing these transactions, we will have effectively completed the re-leasing of the Seattle and San Francisco 2028 expirations and be well ahead of schedule on the San Diego expirations. We've also made some tremendous progress on future expirations, including our only two 2019 expirations that are greater than 100,000 sq ft. ISB, an affiliate of Providence Health & Services, a life science tenant at 401 Terry in South Lake Union, signed an early renewal for 141,000 sq ft, extending its expiration from 2021 to 2031. In Silicon Valley, we signed renewals totaling 169,000 sq ft with two life science tenants, both of which were scheduled to expire in 2019. We received notice that Microsoft will move out of our Westlake Terry building in South Lake Union in 2019, thereby triggering Amazon's must-take for all 125,000 sq ft that will now expire in 2030.

At our Stanford Research Park asset in Palo Alto, the existing biotech tenant has signed its 116,000 sq ft lease under the same terms to Stanford University, significantly improving the credit profile of that asset. These transactions on a combined basis will generate rent increases of 14% on a cash basis and 33% on a GAAP basis. Moving to development, we remain on track with our current construction projects. At 100 Hooper, as we previously reported, we executed a 314,000 sq ft lease with Adobe last year for the entire office portion of the 400,000 sq ft project. We delivered the core and shell to Adobe earlier in the month and anticipate occupancy in phases late in the year.

The remaining 86,000 sq ft of project is PDR space, and we just signed two PDR leases totaling 33,000 sq ft, bringing the overall project to 87% leased on a square footage basis and 93% leased on an economic basis. At The Exchange, we expect to deliver the core and shell to Dropbox in late May. Work also continues at our three other construction projects, 333 Dexter in South Lake Union, submarket of Seattle, phase 1 of The Academy on Vine, and phase 1 of our One Paseo mixed-use project in Del Mar, where we've now leased 51% of the retail space and expect to be over 80% committed next quarter. As a matter of interest, The Shops at One Paseo was recently voted best new retail in the region, highlighting the much-anticipated delivery of our One Paseo project.

To summarize, these five projects currently total just over 2.1 million sq ft of office space, 120,000 sq ft of retail space, and 237 residential units. Together, they represent a total estimated investment of $1.7 billion, with remaining incremental spending of approximately $700 million. More than half of the office space is leased and on schedule to deliver by year-end. Overall, we expect to generate over $120 million of NOI from these five projects. As we discussed on last quarter's call, in January, we purchased three office and lab buildings for $111 million in the Oyster Point submarket of South San Francisco, an acquisition that takes us into one of the most vibrant life science markets in the U.S. today. It is approximately 80% occupied and represents a mid 6% yield upon stabilization.

As most of you know, we are pursuing a development opportunity directly adjacent to our new Oyster Point acquisition. We have a confidentiality agreement that prohibits us from discussing details at this time, but we are very excited about this opportunity given the strength of the life science sector as well as this particular location. We expect to be able to provide details on this land acquisition and our development plans at our June 4th Investor Day in New York City. We're also making progress on our capital recycling goals for 2018. We're in the process of taking to market a combination of non-core and core assets and expect to meet our previously stated objective of $250 million-$750 million of dispositions with closings in the second half of this year.

To summarize, four months into 2018, we are seeing rising demand, shrinking supply, and upward pressure on rental rates for top-quality properties across our West Coast markets. We have the youngest and most sustainable portfolio geared toward the modern worker and continue to see opportunities to earn strong returns and create shareholder value, largely in development, and we remain committed to pursuing these opportunities with prudence and financial discipline. That completes my remarks. Now I'm going to turn the call over to Jeff for a closer look at our markets. Jeff?

Jeffrey Hawken
COO and EVP, Kilroy Realty

Thanks, John. Hello, everyone. Let's begin in San Francisco, where the city's high-tech job growth has increased nearly 40% over the past two years, where robust demand and shrinking supply continue to characterize one of the strongest real estate markets in the nation. It was evident in the city's first quarter numbers with total leasing activity of more than 2.1 million sq ft and solid net absorption. Supply has meaningfully decreased, with the last remaining near-term delivery believed to be in discussions with a prospective tenant. Given these dynamics, brokers expect rents to further increase. Class A direct vacancy rates in San Francisco SoMa, South Financial, and Mission Bay districts were 5.5%, 8%, and 2.5%, respectively. Vacancy in South San Francisco was 2%, and in Silicon Valley, Class A direct vacancy was 7.9%.

We are currently 97.9% leased in the Bay Area, and our in-place rents for the region are approximately 26% below market. It's much the same story in Seattle. Last fall, PwC and the Urban Land Institute predicted Greater Seattle would be 2018's top-performing real estate market in the nation, and it's proven to be true. With a young, educated workforce and twice the U.S. average for science, tech, engineering, and math jobs, Seattle continues to experience rising demand for modern workspace while new supply is very limited. Similar to the real estate dynamics of San Francisco, Seattle rental rates are poised to grow even further given the lack of available space and growing demand. Class A direct vacancy in South Lake Union and Bellevue are currently 3.7%. Our Seattle portfolio is currently 94.7% leased, reflecting the Bellevue move-out in February. Our in-place rents are approximately 8% below market.

In San Diego, the market continues to strengthen. Job growth is positive and VC funding set a new record. Rents were up 4.7% last quarter across all San Diego submarkets, and there's minimal new office supply in the region. In Del Mar, which commands the region's highest asking rents, Class A direct vacancy was 12.5%, a majority of which is south of the 56 freeway and not competitive with our product. Our San Diego portfolio is currently 99.2% leased, and our San Diego in-place rents are approximately 7% above market. In Los Angeles, the evolution of traditional entertainment and media firms into technology-focused techtainment firms continues.

The region is attracting entrepreneurial talent with Silicon Beach now home to more than 500 tech startup companies in Hollywood and Culver City, now home to the large content creators including Netflix, Amazon, and Apple. Class A direct vacancy in West L.A. was 5%, West Hollywood was 6.2%, and Hollywood was 8.1%. Our Los Angeles portfolio is currently 95.5% leased with in-place rents approximately 9% below market. On a portfolio-wide basis, our estimated average in-place rents are 14% below market. As John discussed, we are making good progress in reducing our exposure to 2018 expirations. Additionally, we have further addressed our larger 2019 through 2021 expirations with terrific rent increases on those transactions. Specifically, in 2019, we now have only three expirations greater than 75,000 sq ft and none greater than 95,000 sq ft.

All three are in the San Francisco Bay Area with rents that are approximately 15% below market. That's a snapshot of our markets. Tyler will cover our financial results in more detail. Tyler?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Thanks, Jeff. FFO was $0.94 per share in the first quarter. We were ahead of our internal expectations, primarily driven by lower bad debt expense, lower operating expenses, and $0.02 of timing differences related to expenses in G&A. Same-store NOI increased on both the GAAP and cash bases in the quarter, driven largely by higher rental rates. GAAP NOI was up 5.4%, and cash NOI increased 4.8%. Occupancy at the end of the first quarter was 94.3%, reflecting the move-out in Bellevue that John and Jeff discussed earlier. In January, we used proceeds from our term loan to fund the acquisition of Oyster Point Tech Center. Earlier this month, we launched a $250 million eight-year debt private placement that includes three and six-month delayed draw options. We expect this transaction to close in May and fund in July and October.

We currently have $625 million available on our credit facility, which is expandable by $600 million under an accordion feature. Our debt-to-market cap is approximately 26%, and our debt to EBITDA quarter end was approximately 5.7 times. Before moving to guidance, I'd like to comment on the new lease accounting change that will become effective next year. Under the new rules, all internal leasing costs and third-party legal fees associated with leases will be required to be expensed. Lessors will only be allowed to capitalize contingent leasing costs, such as third-party broker commissions. While this is a noneconomic change, it will both negatively impact future earnings and positively impact our yields. We are working to quantify the impact on our 2019 projected earnings, and we'll have more to color to provide next quarter. Let's discuss in more detail our updated 2018 guidance provided in yesterday's earnings release.

To begin, let me remind you that we approach our near-term performance forecasting with a high degree of caution, given all the uncertainties in today's economy. Our current guidance reflects information and market intelligence as we know it today. Any significant shifts in the economy or markets, tenant demand, construction costs, and new supply going forward could have a meaningful impact on our results in ways not currently reflected in our analysis. Projected revenue recognition dates are subject to several factors that we can't control, including the timing of tenant occupancies. With those caveats, our updated assumptions for 2018 are as follows. The midpoint of our projected dispositions of ventures remains $500 million. We anticipate remaining 2018 development spending on our projects under construction to be approximately $350 million-$400 million.

As we've reported on prior calls, we project no FFO contribution in 2018 from the Dropbox lease and revenue recognition from the Adobe lease at 100 Hooper later in the fourth quarter. Given advanced discussions at the Bridgepoint buildings, we are now assuming that about 50% of the square footage will be leased before Bridgepoint's expirations in July and October. Under this scenario, we would no longer take the buildings out of service. This new assumption would negatively impact 2018 earnings by about a penny and a half, cash same-store results by about 1%, and year-end occupancy by about 90 basis points. The overall economics of the project will be much improved, with shorter-than-projected downtime and significantly lower capital costs. Given the better-than-expected leasing activity across the portfolio, even with the change on Bridgepoint, we remain comfortable with our year-end office occupancy guidance of 94%-95%.

Similarly, we continue to project office same-store cash NOI to be between 0% and 1%. While including the Bridgepoint campus in the same-store portfolio negatively impact these results, the better operating performance offsets the negative impact. Last quarter, we provided initial earnings guidance for 2018 of $3.45 to $3.65 per share, with a midpoint of $3.55 per share. Positive changes to that midpoint include the $0.02 positive impact on the first quarter results and three and a half cents from better projected operating activity over the rest of the year. Negative changes include the $0.015 from leaving the Bridgepoint buildings in service and two and a half cents from the debt private placement. Taking these updated expectations into account, we are increasing our FFO midpoint to $3.57 per share with a range of $3.49 to $3.64 per share. That's the latest news from KRC.

We will be happy to take your questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause for a moment to assemble our roster. Our first questioner today will be Craig Mailman with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Laura Dickson
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Everyone, this is Laura Dixon here with Craig. Congratulations on the quarter. Quick question on the timing differences that you mentioned for other expenses in G&A. When those will occur instead?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. It's roughly $0.02, and it's related to professional service fees primarily. We can expect to see that in the third and the fourth quarter.

Laura Dickson
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Just curious about the PDR space at 100 Hooper. Can you elaborate on what that is and the tenants, and how do the rents there compare to traditional office space?

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Sure. This is Rob Paratte, Laura. PDR stands for production, distribution, repair, and it's San Francisco's attempt to keep makers and workers in the city, and Kilroy's a big supporter of that. We're going to have some at the Flower Mart. We have it at Hooper. The two leases that we've signed, one is a publicly traded reprographics and printing company, and it's a relocation and expansion. The other tenant is actually a really great amenity for the project. Adobe's going to be excited about it, and it's a boutique distillery food purveyor. Without getting into more detail, but it's going to add life and amenity, which we said we would do with the project, but it will also be additive to the neighborhood. We're excited about both those.

With the space we have remaining, we're seeing activity from smaller technology companies that manufacture and create things. We're really pleased with what we've accomplished so far.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

On the rent side, this is John speaking. On the rent side, it's not as high as office space. It's not as highly improved. It can range depending upon the type of PDR, anywhere from the low $20s to multiples of that, on a per square foot per annum basis. Ours is higher quality stuff, we think we're going to do pretty well on it. I made it in my comment that with approximately 55% of the PDR to be leased, we're already at 93% of our pro forma income for the property. That's because the office space does rent at a higher space.

As part of that deal, we actually made possible a 50,000 square foot facility that's not in our 400,000 square foot calculation that we were required to do as part of the entitlement, that we helped develop and sold at cost to a NGO that provides space at a subsidized basis to craftspeople. Everything that's in the Central SoMa area that displaces any kind of PDR space will have to reproduce it on-site as part of their development. That's now official policy and rules of the city.

Laura Dickson
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Interesting. Great. Appreciate the color.

Operator

Our next questioner today will be Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thanks. Good morning out there. Great job taking care of some of these move-outs. Now that you guys have backfilled the Delta Dental space, and it sounds like a good part of the Valve space, can you give us any sense of when we should expect those leases to commence? Is there any contribution in 2018?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah, this is Tyler. I can take a first crack at that. For the Delta Dental space, Okta is moving in later in the year, so it would be very little contribution in 2018 on probably a December timeframe. Rob, maybe you can comment on the Valve space.

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Sure. The Valve space should be in large part. We just signed 55,000 feet between two tenants, which will be late in the quarter, fourth quarter, in terms of their commencement. The remaining space, we have about 34,000 feet. I expect we should have those signed probably by June, July, something like that. We've got a lot of activity. Bellevue is seeing a real uptick in activity over the last six weeks or so.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay, great. Just continuing on that vein, can you give any more color on the leasing progress at the Fish & Richardson space in Del Mar? I think that was a long-term lease that's expiring, so is there any work that needs to be done at that space?

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. On the one building deal that we're working on, that is the long-term lease, you're correct, Blaine. There is work that's being done. You'll recall also we're doing a little bit of a refresh on the project regardless of that, in terms of the lobbies and landscaping and that sort of thing. For the tenant itself, there will be some rework, but they're putting money into the space also. That's about 144,000 feet.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

You're talking about the

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

The single building.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. He asked about Fish & Richardson. You're talking about-

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Oh, I'm sorry. I was talking about Yeah, I'm sorry. Switching to Fish & Richardson, we have about 54,000 feet of leases that are being negotiated right now, so expect those to be signed fairly shortly.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay, got it. John or David, if he's on, we've seen a couple of big deals trade hands in L.A. recently, and there's, I think, more on the market. Can you just talk about your interest in those deals and in expanding in that market in general outside of, obviously, the development you're doing at The Academy?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Well, yeah, we have a number of things we're looking at. We'd like to expand. We think the pricing and the quality issues on some of the deals that have recently traded, we weren't interested. We know those assets intimately well. We've looked at the numbers, we understand the numbers, we understand what's going on, we understand things. Others saw things in there that we didn't, so we didn't have any interest. Zero.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. That's fair. Last one for me, John. On the Flower Mart, first of all, what's the latest on entitlement there? Can you give any update on the interest or activity you're seeing around that project?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Well, let's start with the schedule. The Central SoMa approval status or timeline is, and all that has to be done through the board of supervisors here, it's before the planning commission. They're scheduled to vote on the Central SoMa plan for adoption on 5/10 of this year, May 10th. The board of supervisors are currently scheduled to vote, hopefully, for approval in mid-July. Assuming that happens, we are expecting entitlements late this year or early next year. In terms of the Central Subway, which is part of that whole thing, as you know, it's been under construction. The official date is completion late 2019, well before we'd have the Flower Mart complete. I think realistically, it's probably mid to late 2020, but that's not official.

In terms of interest, I'm not going to get into specific companies and all that, of course, but we have a lot of interest from the investment community, from the investors in real estate that want to co-invest with us. We evaluate everything. With regard to tenants, I can tell you that I think we're teed up beautifully for some major tenants. As I've said for the last couple of years, I think it'll be a handful of tenants or maybe one. Obviously, we're going to do some pretty serious pre-leasing before starting. The phasing of that project, we think, is the first phase will be roughly 1.7 million sq ft of office, the 125,000 sq ft of Flower Mart, and roughly 100,000 sq ft of market hall, retail, restaurants, et cetera.

The second phase will come later, which is about 300,000 sq ft of office.

Blaine Heck
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Got it. Thanks for the color.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next questioner today will be Manny Korchman with Citi. Please go ahead.

Manny Korchman
Analyst, Citi

Hey, everyone. John, maybe sticking to the transaction environment, there's been some press reports of you looking to expand to San Francisco as well, specifically at 345 Brannan, as well as the Ferry Building. Maybe you could share your thoughts on both of those assets.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Ferry Building's a great building. Love to own it. We are not proposing on it. That's a misread. In terms of whoever published it, I don't know if it's a broker or whatever. We've evaluated it in detail. We just don't think there is a money-making proposition there for us. With regard to the other building you mentioned, I'm not going to comment on prospective deals that might be in play or not until they're done.

Manny Korchman
Analyst, Citi

Okay. Tyler, one for you. Let's say you go down the path on the building that John just mentioned or didn't mention. You've got Oyster Point, which is a big project. You've got the Flower Mart, which is a big project. Understanding that you have some dispositions teed up, how do you think about funding over the next couple of years as a few of those big projects start to come to fruition?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. Well, one of the reasons we did the private placement a little ahead of schedule is we wanted to lock in some funding for some of these future opportunities. I think we've talked about our disposition strategy of $500 million. We did the $250 million private placement of debt. We'll continue that same strategy going forward. Some of the projects you talked about in that list won't need money for several years. We're going to continue the same strategy, and ventures are an option as well as additional debt. We've raised equity when it made sense, and we'll do that. We'll obviously evaluate that if that comes up as well.

Manny Korchman
Analyst, Citi

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

The next questioner today will be Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead. Jamie Feldman, your line is open for questions.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Oh, sorry about that. You guys sound very positive on market conditions and leasing demand from tenants, I assume, especially for new assets. Is there a chance we could see you do one-off developments that are not right now on the future development pipeline? Are there conversations going on for tenants that just need now and want to get started and do not want to wait?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Well, San Francisco is pretty tough because it is an entitlement game, right? With Proposition M, there is just the only thing that you could develop, there are a couple projects that have Proposition M that have not started that we have looked at, but we are not players. Elsewhere, we have a lot of discussions going on regularly, and we always do, with some of the big tenants, and we have been asked to go into other markets and so forth, and nothing is signaled there. We have a lot of discussions, Jamie. Nothing is imminent.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Can you talk about, just generally, the rent growth in the markets? What do you think we could see this year across the major markets?

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Hey, Jamie, it's Rob Paratte. Just given the strength of the markets, this is kind of up and down the West Coast. Clearly, the West Coast is a technology gateway now, more and more tech is moving here. It's the world-renowned leader in tech and attracting that kind of talent. With the limited space availability from Seattle down to San Diego, generally, we think there's opportunity for significant rent growth, particularly San Francisco. San Francisco, even brokers now are saying, upwards of 8%. Seattle, I think, would be in the same ballpark in terms of percentage increase in rents. Los Angeles, a little bit more moderate, but I think it depends on the sub-market you're in, whether it's Santa Monica on the West Side, where conditions are very tight.

Hollywood is also poised for, I think, improved rent growth, probably in the 5% range, San Diego, probably in the 4%-5% range. Again, very dependent on the sub-market you're talking about.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Jamie, this is John again. One thing I'd say is that Rob's talking about sort of the market, the general likelihood of rent increases sort of on the average product. Obviously, the modern user is very discerning of the type of product they want, they're going to pay a lot more for state-of-the-art stuff than they are for generic office space. That could be many multiples of those rental increases. We've always been conservative with regard to projections, we always like to be surprised by higher rental increases that happen. A lot to be seen. I think it's teed up. It's classic economics 101, right? A lot of demand, very little supply, tends to be a pretty good time to be a landlord.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Finally, just more color on leasing at 333 Dexter and The Academy.

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Sure. I'll start with Dexter up at South Lake Union. Seattle has a lot of the same market dynamics that the Bay Area has, that John and Jeff mentioned in their commentary. We have a significant group of tenants that were prospects that we're talking to, all of which are over 100,000 feet. In fact, we're able to sort of selectively prioritize those that we're really focusing on and others that we'll continue to talk to. There are some just based on the type of tenant, type of business that we're moving forward on. The project itself is now just getting above grade, so it's going to start coming up on the skyline here over the summer, and we're really pleased with that activity. On Academy, I'd say, in a similar vein, we have four to five different prospects.

Some could take the entire project, some could take components of it. It's situated in a perfect location in that Hollywood sub-market, adjacent to Columbia Square. A lot of good interest considering we just started in January.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Are these markets where you tend not to see the pre-leasing until the building's almost done?

Rob Paratte
EVP of Leasing and Business Development, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. Pre-leasing in a lot of markets is a tough sell, but in these markets I don't want to predict when we're going to be announcing things, but the activity that we have on both these developments is as strong as I've seen it.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Jamie, let me put in context the completion of the shell and core at 333 Dexter is scheduled for the end of the third quarter of next year. Revenue recognition, we forecasted, is the fourth quarter of 2020. The Academy shell and core completion is scheduled for some time in the first quarter of 2020, with revenue recognition in late 2021. What I like is that we're building great product in markets with very little demand, with very little new supply, with big creditworthy tenants out needing space and rising rentals. We've got quite a bit of time, so we're going to try to be thoughtful with regard to how we fill these particular buildings.

Jamie Feldman
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next questioner today will be John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Just sticking with Dexter. Given the strength and upward pressure on rents in Seattle, can you just comment on where rents and yields are versus your original underwriting for that asset?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

On rents had historically, they've been sort of in the low to mid-$30 triple net plus parking. Rents now have jumped to $40 per square foot per annum plus parking. I personally think if you look at San Francisco, where rents today on a triple net basis are, for a similar product, are sort of in the mid-$60 a square foot plus parking. I think Seattle rent growth is poised to grow pretty tremendously over time. With regard to underwriting, obviously, we've said that we expect to be in the high sevens, low eights, sort of that area, and I think we'll achieve that.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. Then just given your maintaining of your same-store NOI guidance, I realize there's a lot of moving parts that you may have. Just given your current occupancy levels and what you achieved in the first quarter, what are the components that would cause same-store NOI to decline and be negative for the remainder of the year?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. It's really the expirations, the move-outs that were related to the expirations in our portfolio. We have Valve Corporation moved out in the first quarter. We've got Fish & Richardson and Bridgepoint Education moving out in the summer and the fall. As someone else noted, Delta Dental is moved out, and we're not going to backfill that until the very end of the year with Okta. It's really that profile of expirations.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Which total roughly 725,000 feet.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

What would be your guidance range if the Bridgepoint Education asset was taken offline?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

It was about a point higher. If we hadn't decided to make this change on Bridgepoint Education, assuming we do this deal, we would've raised our number by about a point.

John Kim
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Understood. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next questioner today will be David Rogers with Baird. Please go ahead.

David Rodgers
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Good morning out there. On the lab acquisition that you did in the first quarter, going-in yield and stabilized yield on something like that, is that really just kind of a lease-up stabilized asset, or is that part of the bigger plan with what you've got adjacent to that?

Tracy Murphy
EVP, Life Science, Kilroy Realty

Hey, David, Tracy Murphy. Yes, our going-in was just over a three. We've got 20% vacancy at the project, 30,000 feet in shell condition, which we've got really healthy activity on. I think our year two stabilized rate is 63 or 64, something like that. Tyler can correct me if I'm wrong, yeah, your observation is correct.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

The bigger play is that it's next door to the property that we have an option on. Ultimately, we have a plan that those two assets working together will be very synergistic, more to come. Come to our investor day, learn all about it.

David Rodgers
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

I realize you have the confidentiality on it, I don't know if you can answer this. Is that confidentiality with a developer, a landowner, or is that an actual potential tenant?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah. I am not going to comment. We just can not talk about it.

David Rodgers
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Lastly, just down to San Diego on, I think Bridgepoint and Fish & Richardson. You had said 25% potential roll-down in rent. The speed at which you re-leased it and kind of not going through redevelopment, how does that change that math?

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

The math on the rents is roughly what we had projected. The rents really have not moved much. We are having lower, as I mentioned on the Bridgepoint tenant that if we complete that deal, we will have much lower CapEx, lower TIs, and they would move in a lot earlier than we had projected. The rent levels are roughly the same as we had originally talked about.

David Rodgers
Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Okay. The next questioner today will be Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisors. Please go ahead.

Jed Reagan
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Hey, good morning, guys. Just back on the Flower Mart, it sounds like you've got close to 2 million square feet planned for phase 1. Do you have contingency phasing plans for that project where, in a scenario where entitlements are maybe spread more broadly, and you get, say, half that amount or less, that you could kind of accommodate that?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Jed, I'm not trying to be coy. I just don't want to go down that road.

Jed Reagan
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Okay, fair enough. There's been a push recently to put a repeal of Proposition 13 for commercial properties on the ballot in California. Just curious to get your thoughts on how you think that might play out, and can you frame up how a repeal could impact your financials over time, potentially?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah, let me deal with the first part. Tyler can deal with the financial impact. The last four or five attempts at this all ended in failure with them polling the people who are proponents of repealing Proposition 13, polling it off, never getting it on a ballot. That's what happened this time. Does it come back in 2020? I'm sure 2020 or 2022, somebody will bring it back. Politics is kind of a blood sport out here. As you know, you live in California. You got the idiots running the whole place, both sides of the fence, sort of the microcosm of the bigger picture. We're gonna continue to see stuff like this, and we all got to work to defeat it, and we've been successful in that as an industry time and time again. The crazies are running the joint.

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Jed, on the financial-

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Tyler, the potential impact.

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Yeah, on the financial side, it is a difficult calculation because if it's 2020 or 2022, it depends what you own at the time, what are the age of those properties, what have we sold between now and then, how you value that. We have a lot of new product that doesn't have a reassessment. A lot more to come on how that number will shake out down the road. If we were to have it today, a reassessment right now, it's roughly $0.03 or $0.04 a share. That number would grow over time as leases roll. Obviously, it's just the triple net leases and nothing in the state of Washington. It's a complicated calculation, but it's so hard to predict what it could be out in 2021, 2022, given that our portfolio may be different.

Jed Reagan
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Okay. Appreciate that. Maybe just one other one from me. About 60% of your office NOI is now in the Bay Area and Seattle. I guess, looking five years down the road, do you feel like that proportion stays roughly steady, or is there a top-down strategy to shift that mix over time?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

I've always said that I remember when we were all in Southern California, you used to get asked that question as we started growing Northern California and Seattle, "What do you expect the mix to be?" I said, "Well, I don't know that I can say precisely," because development dispositions, acquisitions, all the rest affect everything. I used to say sort of 50% Southern California, 50% Northern in Seattle. Obviously, it's grown in Seattle and San Francisco. They're the two best markets in the country. We've sold off a lot down in San Diego, and we'll be selling off some stuff that'll mostly be Southern California-based. Right, Steve?

Steve Rosetta
EVP, Chief Investment Officer, Kilroy Realty

Right.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

That'll change the numbers a little bit. Then, of course, as we develop or venture, the number's going to bang around. I don't know that there is an ideal number, but we do look at it. We will continue to look at it and make sure that we're feeling comfortable about it.

Jed Reagan
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Great. Appreciate that. Thanks, guys.

Operator

The next questioner today will be John Guinee with Stifel. Please go ahead.

John Guinee
Analyst, Stifel

Great. Hey, David Simon. The other David Simon. Academy on Vine looks like it's coming in at close to $800 a foot to build. That seems to be a lot higher than my recollection of a couple years ago or Columbia Square. Is that correct? What's happened to hard costs and land costs in the last few years in your backyard there?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Maybe before you answer that, the one thing to consider here is that the first phase includes all the parking for both phases.

John Guinee
Analyst, Stifel

Oh.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

That's all subterranean parking at about $50,000 a space.

John Guinee
Analyst, Stifel

Gotcha. That'll make the difference. Okay. 333 Dexter still coming in at under $600 a foot. Did you get that at a low land basis, or is that land at market to come in at $600 a foot?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

We bought the land at a pretty favorable basis compared to where things have gone today, plus we've seen construction costs escalate and whatnot. I think I used to say, you're going to see values go over $1,000 a square foot in San Francisco, and that happened faster than I thought. I think you're now going to see them. I don't think it'll be terribly long before you see them at $1,500 or $1,600 a foot in San Francisco. I think you're seeing trades in Seattle now at upwards of mid $800 a foot. All that stuff is going to be reflected as you have construction costs increase and diminishing supply of land and as cities invariably impose more exactions on properties and development. You're going to see costs continue to go up.

We got a very favorable cost structure there. They're very efficient buildings. That's all subterranean parking as well. That's what's going on.

John Guinee
Analyst, Stifel

All right. Thank you.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Bye.

Operator

Our next questioner today will be Rob Simone with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Rob Simone
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. John, just a quick follow-up on your commentary around 333 Dexter. Did you say that you guys were budgeting revenue first quarter 2020 or fourth quarter 2020?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

Michelle, help me out. I don't know whether I think I said late 2021 for revenue recognition on-

Rob Simone
Analyst, Evercore ISI

That was Academy, I believe.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

fourth quarter 2020 for 333.

Rob Simone
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got it. Okay. My question then on 333 Dexter, are you guys, because it's a spec project, kind of budgeting a longer build-out period at this point? Because if you're delivering it in the third quarter of 2018, it feels like six to nine months to build out and then maybe 12 months free. You should be looking at booking revenue maybe the first or second quarter of 2020. Am I thinking about that the wrong way, or is it just kind of?

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

No. When we underwrite spec stuff, we assume that it's going to take a lot longer to lease up than if we do a pre-lease or a significant lease during construction. We just underwrite it more conservatively, which I think.

Rob Simone
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got it.

John B. Kilroy, Jr.
Chairman and CEO, Kilroy Realty

is a prudent thing to do.

Rob Simone
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got it. Okay. Makes sense. Tyler, just a quick follow-up. On the Bridgepoint impact, just want to understand why, if you're re-leasing up to 50% of that space versus taking it fully out of service, there'd be a $0.01 drag on FFO.

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Well, because there's two buildings there. We would be getting the rent from the building that would be leased, but the other building, which we had originally were taking out of service, that we'd be capitalizing interest on, now would be staying in service empty until we lease that. It's that other building that would be the drag.

Rob Simone
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got it. Okay. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

Operator

This will conclude our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tyler Rose for any closing remarks.

Tyler H. Rose
EVP and CFO, Kilroy Realty

Thank you for joining us today. We hope you can join us for our Investor Day on June 4th in New York City. Goodbye.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.