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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Aug 6, 2020

Operator

Good day, everyone. Welcome to the Kura Oncology 2Q 2020 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn things over to Mr. Pete De Spain, Kura's Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Pete De Spain
VP of Investor Relations, Kura Oncology

Thank you, Kellyanne. Good afternoon, and welcome to Kura Oncology's second quarter 2020 conference call. Joining me on the call from Kura are Dr. Troy Wilson, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Dr. Marc Grasso, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Business Officer. Jim Basta, our Chief Legal Officer, Kirsten Flowers, our Chief Commercial Officer, Kathy Ford, our Chief Operating Officer , and Dr. Bridget Martell, our acting Chief Medical Officer, are also with us and available to answer questions. Before I turn the call over to Dr. Wilson, I would like to remind you that today's call will include forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Such statements represent management's judgment as of today and may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expected results.

Please refer to Kura's filings with the SEC, which are available from the SEC or on the Kura Oncology website for information concerning risk factors that could affect the company. With that, I will now turn the call over to Dr. Troy Wilson, President and CEO of Kura Oncology.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you, Pete, and thank you all for joining us this afternoon. At Kura, we're committed to advancing two exciting programs, our farnesyltransferase inhibitor, tipifarnib, and our menin KMT2A inhibitor, KO-539, each with the potential to make a significant impact on the lives of patients with cancer. We're advancing these programs during an exciting time in oncology drug development, with an increased understanding of biology, better uptake of precision medicines, and a sense of urgency to bring new and better therapies to patients. At the same time, we continue to operate against the challenges of a global pandemic as we adapt to an ever-evolving remote working environment. We expect this disruption and uncertainty to continue for the foreseeable future as the threat of COVID-19 remains. In response to these challenges, we've implemented a number of mitigation steps, as outlined on our call last quarter, including streamlining our clinical development program.

These efforts have enabled us to focus our efforts on those programs with the highest potential to create value for patients, to create greater operational leverage, and help to ensure a strong cash position as we approach important catalysts. The result of this exercise is a focus on our two major pillars, tipifarnib in HRAS-dependent head and neck squamous cell carcinoma, or HNSCC, including HRAS mutant and HRAS overexpressed HNSCC, and KO-539 in acute leukemias, including KMT2 rearranged AML and NPM1 mutant AML. These programs share key attributes, namely small molecule drug candidates targeting oncogenic driver mutations in disease indications of high unmet need that have characterized a number of successful precision medicines in oncology. Let's start with an update on KO-539, a program that continues to generate significant interest. KO-539 is a potent and selective small molecule inhibitor of the menin-KMT2A protein-protein interaction.

Preclinical data support the potential for potent anti-tumor activity in genetically defined subsets such as KMT2A fusion and rearrangements, as well as NPM1 mutations. As a reminder, KO-539 has received orphan drug designation from FDA for the treatment of acute myeloid leukemia. We believe KO-539 represents a differentiated approach with the potential to target at least 35% of patients with AML. We were pleased to see the presentation of a competitor program at the American Association for Cancer Research annual meeting in April, which represented the first public report that a menin-KMT2A inhibitor can drive meaningful anti-leukemic activity in KMT2A rearranged AML patients. The encouraging data underscores our excitement around KO-539, which is a chemically distinct molecule with different physical, chemical, and drug-like properties. Our phase I/II-A clinical trial of KO-539 in relapsed/refractory AML, which we've named KOMET-001, continues in dose escalation.

We remain focused on our goal of reaching a recommended Phase II dose and schedule, after which we intend to open expansion cohorts in NPM1 mutant and KMT2 rearranged AML, selected patient populations where we believe KO-539 has potential to demonstrate increased clinical benefit. In addition, we're exploring options to expand the label, potentially broadening the opportunity in the treatment of acute leukemias in both children and adults, as well as the combination of KO-539 with chemotherapy and targeted therapies. We intend to submit an abstract for presentation of the KO-539 program at the American Society of Hematology annual meeting, and pending acceptance of the abstract, look forward to sharing the initial clinical data in December. In the meantime, we continue to add clinical sites to the study in anticipation of moving into the expansion cohorts. Now let's turn our attention to tipifarnib in HRAS mutant HNSCC.

We reported updated clinical outcome data from our phase II RUN-HN study of tipifarnib at the American Society of Clinical Oncology Virtual Scientific Program in May. The data showed a median overall survival of 15.4 months, median progression-free survival of 5.9 months, and an overall response rate of 50% among the 18 evaluable patients with recurrent metastatic HRAS mutant HNSCC. Patients in the study had a median of two prior lines of therapy, and robust activity was seen despite prior resistance to chemotherapy, immunotherapy, and/or cetuximab.

Outcomes for three FDA-approved therapies for relapsed metastatic HNSCC are poor, with reported median OS of five to eight months, PFS of two to three months, and ORR of 13%-16% in the second line. We believe a median OS of 15 months is unprecedented in this patient population and represents a substantial improvement compared to historical benchmarks with current standards of care. These data support our efforts in HRAS mutant HNSCC, a population in dire need of effective new treatment, and they reinforce our confidence in the ongoing AIM-HN registration-directed trial. As discussed on our last quarterly call, we've amended the AIM-HN trial to enroll all HRAS mutant HNSCC patients, regardless of variant allele frequency. The amendment expands the proportion of HRAS mutant HNSCC patients who are being treated in the registration-directed trial.

It's worth noting that the trial's primary outcome measure, ORR in patients with high HRAS mutant variant allele frequency, remains unchanged. However, the amendment enables us to assess the potential clinical benefit in the overall HRAS mutant HNSCC population as well. We believe tipifarnib has the potential to provide a meaningful benefit to these patients. In addition to pursuing the first registrational opportunity in recurrent or metastatic HRAS mutant HNSCC, we're also planning for how we can expand the use of tipifarnib into larger patient populations. In particular, we're increasingly interested in HNSCC patients whose tumors are dependent on HRAS and/or PI3Kα , as evidenced by overexpression of the HRAS protein or PIK3CA mutation or amplification. HRAS and PI3Kα are believed to be co-dependent pathways in HNSCC.

Our preclinical data support this notion and suggest that a combination approach has the potential to provide meaningfully better antitumor activity than inhibiting either target alone. Specifically, additive or synergistic activity was consistently observed with administration of the combination of tipifarnib and a PI3 kinase alpha inhibitor in a panel of 16 patient-derived xenograft models representative of these HNSCC genotypes. These patients may represent significant subsets of HNSCC patients with distinct biology that may be targetable by tipifarnib. It's estimated that up to 20% of HNSCC patients have tumors that overexpress HRAS, and an additional 35% have PIK3CA-dependent tumors. Although the precise overlap between the HRAS overexpressed and the PI3K dysregulated HNSCC populations is still being evaluated, we believe the total addressable population for tipifarnib may be as high as 50% of HNSCC.

Based upon the unmet need and our encouraging preclinical data, we're prioritizing clinical development of tipifarnib in combination with a PI3K inhibitor as a strategy to treat both HRAS and PI3K-dependent HNSCC patients. We continue to do more work on this front and anticipate presenting our preclinical data at an upcoming medical meeting. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Marc Grasso for a discussion of our financial results for the second quarter of 2020.

Marc Grasso
CFO and Chief Business Officer, Kura Oncology

Thank you, Troy. Good afternoon, everyone. I'll provide a brief overview of our financial results here on the call and invite you to review our 10-Q file today for more detailed discussion. Research and development expenses for the second quarter of 2020 were $13.7 million, compared to $11.4 million for the second quarter of 2019. The increase in R&D expenses was primarily due to an increase in clinical development activities related to our ongoing clinical trials and personnel costs and other expenses. General and administrative expenses for the second quarter of 2020 were $7.5 million, compared to $4.5 million for the second quarter of 2019. The increase in G&A expenses was primarily due to increases in professional and legal fees, pre-commercial planning expenses, personnel costs, and non-cash share-based compensation.

Net loss for the second quarter of 2020 was $20.5 million, or $0.40 per share, compared to a net loss of $14.9 million or $0.38 per share for the second quarter of 2019. As of June 30th, 2020, we had cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $338.9 million, compared with $236.9 million as of December 31st, 2019. This includes net proceeds of approximately $134.9 million from a public offering completed in May 2020. We anticipate the additional proceeds will extend our cash runway by at least 12 months. We are therefore updating our guidance that our current cash equivalents, and short-term investments will be sufficient to fund current operations into 2023. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Troy.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you, Marc. Despite the continuing challenges posed by the pandemic, we remain steadfast in our commitment to advancing our tipifarnib and KO-539 drug development program and improving the lives of patients with cancer. I'm pleased by the progress we're making and look forward to sharing further updates with you in the months ahead. With that, operator, we're now ready for questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, if you do have a question, please signal us by pressing star one. Again, that will be star one for questions. We'll hear first today from Martin Auster with Credit Suisse.

Tiago Fauth
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Hey, guys. It's Tiago, on for Marty. I was curious if you could provide us any updates on the impact of COVID-19 in enrollment for tipifarnib in the AIM study. I'm curious if you have seen a pickup in enrollment at some clinical trial sites or any other metric that may help to inform or estimate potential timing for that data. I know there's a lot of uncertainty, but any color will be helpful. The follow-up will be just on what's the actual mechanistic rationale for the synergy that you're actually seeing in preclinical models of tipifarnib with the PI3K inhibitor. Thank you.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thanks. Great question. On the enrollment in the AIM-HN study, we are seeing some improvements in the number of patients who are presenting to our clinical site. Just to remind everyone, this study is operating in 90 sites around the globe. We saw a pretty significant drawdown in the number of patients presenting as COVID was rolling through various geographies. That's coming back. I don't think it's all the way back, but we've definitely seen some improvement. I don't think we're at a point yet where we can give clear guidance on the timing for full enrollment. I'll also just remind you that with the implementation of the amendment to the protocol, that typically takes three to six months to work its way through the sites around the globe.

Between the amendment and COVID-19, at this point, I think we're still a little bit too uncertain to give guidance. We are seeing improvement and continuing to execute against that study. The second question that you asked on the mechanistic rationale. The RAS proteins, HRAS, NRAS, KRAS, they all interact with PI3 kinase. HRAS appears to have a special and co-dependent relationship with PI3 kinase. We'll have more to say about this, as I said, in the prepared remarks in the scientific meeting. Suffice it to say, there's a couple of interesting pieces of data. If you delete the binding domain between HRAS or PI3 kinase, you can't transform cells with mutations in either oncogene. Another way of saying that is you need the presence of both of those oncoproteins in order to be able to drive tumor genesis with either HRAS mutations or PIK3CA mutations.

As you'll see, we've updated our corporate presentation. The combination is active, as we indicated, in the HRAS overexpressed, in the PI3 kinase, either mutant or amplified population, as well as even interestingly in the wild type population. I think that speaks to probably the importance of those two oncogenes in head and neck squamous cell carcinoma. Note that all of that data was generated at doses that are less than either drug used as a single agent. Again, speaking to the additivity or the potential for synergy. Be interesting to see. I think we're looking forward to seeing whether we can replicate that data in the clinic. Obviously, if we can, it opens up a very expansive opportunity in head and neck cancer.

I think there's very strong scientific and clinical rationale, and we are working very diligently to prepare for starting that study probably sometime early next year.

Tiago Fauth
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Understood. Thanks again for taking the question.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you.

Operator

We'll hear next from Peter Lawson with Barclays.

Speaker 9

Hi, this is [Mitch Wason] for Peter, and thank you for taking our questions. The first question is, what kind of data for KO-539 are you expecting at ASH? Any comment on how many patients and if you expect there to be any NPM1 patients?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah. Thank you for the question. We anticipated. I'm going to leave you deeply unsatisfied. At this point, given that we're now under the embargo, we're not going to comment on the numbers of patients or the composition of sort of the genetic backgrounds. I'll tell you that the investigators made a determination that the data we have to date, they thought was worthy of presentation at ASH, and we agree with that wholeheartedly. We are still working our way toward a recommended phase II testing schedule. We're not there yet. We're looking forward, hopefully, if the abstract is accepted, to providing a fuller update at ASH.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you. Could you just comment on the go-forward plans for the development of tipifarnib with PI3K inhibitors and just kind of like what trial designs might look like or any color on what we can expect going forward?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah. Happy to try to give you some more color on that. It'll look, I think like a traditional sort of phase I/IIA escalation. We need to, of course, determine that the combination can be given with a tolerable regimen that allows you to drive antitumor activity. The toxicities that have been observed for both the PI3Kα inhibitors and tipifarnib appear largely to be non-overlapping, maybe with the exception of some myelosuppression that one can deal with in the clinic. What we'll do, of course, is to start and see whether we can combine the two agents together. Then at that point, we're considering a couple of different approaches. One is to enrich for the various populations, either an HRAS overexpressed population or a PI3 kinase dysregulated population. We are developing assays for the HRAS overexpression.

The PI3 kinase mutations can be detected using traditional next-generation sequencing. Still working through exactly the details of what that trial design looks like, as well as the partner compounds. There are multiple PI3 kinase inhibitors out there that could be good potential partners for tipifarnib in this indication. We're in the midst right now of determining which of those we want to move forward with. Hopefully we'll have more information to share with you either later this year or early next year.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you very much.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Sure. Thank you.

Operator

From SVB Leerink, we'll hear next from Jonathan Chang.

Jonathan Chang
Analyst, SVB Leerink

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just first a clarification question. The intent to submit Language. Is that a reflection of the extension of the ASH exhibition deadline to Monday?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

It is, Jonathan. That's exactly what it is. For everyone's benefit, ASH extended the submission deadline from this week to Monday of next week. I think it's Monday at midnight. We'll, of course, take advantage of every last day we can to update data and so forth. We intend to submit an abstract by the deadline.

Jonathan Chang
Analyst, SVB Leerink

Got it. Just one last question. Has the COVID-19 pandemic impacted enrollment and operations in the KO-539 study?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah, it did actually, early in the study. It affected it in that it was difficult to initiate clinical sites and to access a couple of the sites that were participating in the study. There were certain sites that just shut down completely and weren't even in a position where they could do remote site initiation visits. We seem to largely be through that now, Jonathan, thankfully, although we saw some disruption in the initial setup for the study as the pandemic was breaking, I think we're through that and on a steady pace now. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, actually continuing to add sites to the study in anticipation of moving into the expansion cohorts if and when we reach the recommended phase II dosing schedule.

Jonathan Chang
Analyst, SVB Leerink

Got it. Thanks for taking the question.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you.

Operator

We'll move on to Chris Shibutani with Cowen.

Speaker 10

Hi, everyone. This is [Pam Barris] on for Chris. Couple questions on the upcoming ASH presentation, hopefully, if it's accepted. Congratulations on the almost submission. I know. How long will you continue to enroll all comers, and are you seeing any drug-drug interactions to date?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Let's take those questions separately, Pam. Thank you for the congratulations on the almost submission. We will enroll all comers until we formally move into the expansion cohorts. The protocol is designed specifically not to enrich for particular genetic subtypes in the dose escalation, and then the phase where we determine and validate the recommended phase II dosing schedule. That's the whole point of then moving into the expansion cohorts. In terms of have we observed any drug-drug interactions, is that another way of asking, for example, about CYP3A4 metabolism? As you know, this is a monotherapy study in the relapsed refractory population. We're deliberately not doing any combinations or looking formally at any drug-drug interactions. Is your question kind of getting to that?

Speaker 10

Yes. Specifically, have you seen?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah

Speaker 10

CYP3A4 inhibition?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah. I would say let's hold that question until we get to the presentation of the data. As we've said, the hope and expectation when the data's presented is it will speak to, of course, the safety and tolerability, the pharmacokinetics and exposure, any pharmacodynamics, and then the anti-leukemic activity. As we've also said, most of these patients are on strong CYP3A4 inhibitors. It is something, of course, that we have been paying attention to since the protocol was initially prepared and run through the sites. I think we'll save the answer to that question until we're able to talk about it in the context of the full ASH data set. Again, presuming that the abstract is accepted.

Speaker 10

Got it. One more question, if I can.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Sure

Speaker 10

on the menin inhibitor. Do you have any plans at this time to go into ALL?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

It's definitely a population with very high unmet medical need. That population is treated quite differently than AML. It's something that I think we are looking at very actively. We haven't made any public announcements of an intent to enroll a cohort. Certainly, if one sees activity in the KMT2 rearranged myeloid phenotype, you would expect to see it also in the lymphoblastic phenotype. I think it's a matter of when rather than whether, if we reach a point where we've got activity that justifies moving forward. Something we're looking at, haven't yet made a commitment to move into ALL in parallel.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you, Pam.

Operator

We'll move next to Joe Pantginis with H.C. Wainwright.

Joe Pantginis
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Hey, everyone. Good afternoon. Hope you're all doing well. Wanted to focus on KO-539. If you could provide a little bit of a reminder and maybe some color with regard to sort of the early discussions with the FDA in determining the starting dose. What I'm getting at is, obviously with a new drug, you want to potentially start as low as you can, but then you're also balancing having to potentially start as close as you can to a potentially efficacious dose in such an advanced population in AML.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah. Joe, thank you for the well wishes and for the question. This phase I study was pretty plain vanilla. In discussions with the agency, we proposed starting at a fraction of what we believe the human efficacious dose to be, and that's driven completely by the preclinical models. People have asked, how many cohorts do you expect? My answer's been, more than one and fewer than 20. I think we're making good progress in that regard. Sometimes you see compounds going in, and you have a pretty good expectation that you're going to be at a human efficacious dose right out of the gate. That wasn't where we started based on the predictions from the preclinical models.

Of course, I want to be respectful of ASH and not speak to any of the clinical data. It was a traditional design where we start a number of cohorts down. Then as it was drafted, it's single patient escalation until we either experience a DLT or reach what we predicted the human efficacious dose to be.

Joe Pantginis
Analyst, H.C. Wainwright

Got it. Thanks for that.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Okay.

Operator

Once again, for questions that have come in at this time, we'll hear now from Reni Benjamin with JMP Securities.

Reni Benjamin
Analyst, JMP Securities

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the progress. Troy, maybe just starting off with KO-539. You have two genetically defined patient populations. Can you just talk a little bit about the need for differentiating those two? Do we expect vastly different sort of efficacy or safety between those two patient populations, or the biology is such that they should relatively be in line? Maybe related to that, you're looking at the relapse refractory patient population. What are your thoughts in regards to the potential combination and moving it front line?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yeah, Reni. Thank you for the question. We can speak to what we see in the preclinical data and the rationale. To remind everyone, at a dose of 50 milligrams per kilogram dosed once a day orally via oral gavage in the patient-derived xenograft models, we saw curative effects in both the MLL or KMT2 rearranged models as well as the NPM1 mutant models. There wasn't a differentiation as far as efficacy is concerned pre-clinically, and it's hard to draw conclusions in terms of tolerability in those models since they're not really designed for that. We would have an expectation, I think, on the basis of that there's a good reason to believe you would see a similar phenomenon in patients. You never know until you run the experiment, which is what we're doing now.

I will remind you that in the case of the KMT2 rearranged population, that is a very negative prognosis. Those patients typically do not respond well to anything, which I think is why we may have seen an enrichment in the SNDX-5613 study that they presented at AACR. In the case of NPM1 on its own is actually a favorable prognostic as far as AML is concerned. Once you develop co-mutations, FLT3, DNMT3A, for example, it switches and becomes a moderately negative prognostic. You would expect that if you were seeing patients in the relapsed refractory setting, those patients are likely going to be NPM1 with various co-mutations. I shouldn't speak generally, but that would be your expectation in terms of the basis of the standard of care.

As far as that's concerned, both of those populations are pretty high unmet need in the relapsed refractory setting. The second or third part of your question was how do you think about moving forward. There are really three big buckets. There's chemo intensive, there's chemo ineligible, and then there's secondary AML. Each of those segments has its own established standard of care. We would expect that initially we'd likely combine with those standards of care, again, in genetically selected populations. I think the goal in oncology generally is to move to a chemotherapy free regimen. You might imagine two or three targeted therapies together, but I think you're going to do that stepwise. We're doing all of that work now, in addition to opening sites in anticipation of expansion cohorts.

We are talking with key opinion leaders, with our investigators, and with others about the standards of care, the unmet need in the front line, and how one might think about developing 539 in those various populations. I'm hopeful that we'll have more to say about that in the months and years ahead. Does that answer your question?

Reni Benjamin
Analyst, JMP Securities

It does. Just switching gears and as a follow-up with Tipi, the combination approach, I think you mentioned it would be a PI3 kinase alpha inhibitor. I'm kind of curious from a biological perspective why an isoform specific versus a pan PI3K inhibitor? Have you chosen which PI3K inhibitor that's out there you want to combine with as you move forward? How that study could look just given that, correct me if I'm wrong, that there currently aren't any PI3K inhibitors that are approved for head and neck?

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Yes. Again, two good questions, and maybe we can tease them apart. As far as the isoform selectivity of the PI3 kinase inhibitor, remember that those isoforms are restricted in their expression in various tissues. Delta and gamma, for example, you typically see in the immune compartment, which is why they're used for B-cell malignancies, potentially for T-cell malignancies, as well as the hope of inflammatory disease. Alpha and beta are much more what you would think of as solid tumor isoforms. Alpha in particular, PI3Kα , I think it's the second most frequently mutated oncogene after p53. The results as a monotherapy have been modest, but that's maybe not surprising now that we kind of understand how these different signaling cascades can compensate for one another and there's feedback and so forth.

I think you'll end up with the same answer, Ren, from an efficacy perspective, combining a pan PI3 kinase inhibitor as an alpha selective inhibitor with tipifarnib in HNSCC, where they may differentiate is in terms of tolerability. If you're not hitting, particularly given that tipifarnib does have some mild suppressive effects, if you can spare the immune compartment, you'd rather do that. It's a combination of you get all the efficacy and better tolerability by going with the isoform selective inhibitors. You're correct that there is currently no PI3 kinase inhibitor, either alpha or any other flavor that is approved in head and neck. There are a number of PI3 kinase inhibitors that are in various stages of development. A quick search of PubMed will show you.

I don't want to say too much about our evaluation and selection process, but there are a number of options out there that we're actively evaluating, and I think we'll be in a position to say more, hopefully later this year or early next year.

Reni Benjamin
Analyst, JMP Securities

Great. Thank you for taking the questions and congrats on the progress.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you, Reni.

Operator

With no other questions, I'd like to turn things back to you, Dr. Wilson , for any closing remarks.

Troy Wilson
President and CEO, Kura Oncology

Thank you, operator. Thank you all once again for participating in the call today. We'll be participating in the Wedbush PacGrow Healthcare Virtual Conference next week and look forward to speaking with many of you then. In the meantime, if you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact Pete, Marc, or me. Thank you and have a good evening, everyone.

Operator

Again, that will conclude today's conference. Thank you all for joining us.