Good day, everyone. My name's Stefan, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome you to the Kymera Therapeutics first quarter 2026 results call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there'll be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, and if you've joined via the webinar, please use the raise hand icon, which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. If you've joined by phone, please dial star nine on your keypad to raise your hand. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Justine Koenigsberg, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Good morning, welcome to Kymera Therapeutics quarterly update conference call. Joining me today are Nello Mainolfi, our Founder, President, Chief Executive Officer, Jared Gollob, our Chief Medical Officer, and Bruce Jacobs, our Chief Financial Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions from our covering analysts. Please use the raise hand icon to indicate you'd like to ask a question, and we kindly ask that you limit your question to one so we can accommodate everyone. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties described in our most recent Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. Please note any forward-looking statements speak only as of today's date, and we undertake no obligation to update them. With that, I will now turn the call over to Nello.
Thanks, Justine, and thanks everyone for joining us this morning. Next week marks the 10th year anniversary of Kymera's founding. It represents more than just a milestone. We have stepped into a new chapter where we believe the strong foundation we've built over the past decades positions us to deliver transformative medicines for patients around the world. In the past 10 years, we've built unique capabilities, including our hit finding approach to identify ligands to historically undrugged proteins. Building on that, creating new rules on how we identify drug-like, highly specific, and potent degraders. Importantly, key insights to deliver high fidelity of clinical translation. Finally, created early clinical studies to de-risk clinical development, late clinical development. We have continued to refine our target selection strategies, such as we believe we built one of the most compelling oral small molecule pipelines in the industry.
As we look to the next decades, our guiding principles remain unchanged. We'll continue to focus on both signs, demonstrate early proof of concept to support our investments, and build medicines that we believe can change the standard of care for many diseases. We'll obviously be looking to make the final step, becoming a fully integrated global commercial company that delivers groundbreaking medicines for patients around the world. It's these principles that have shaped our innovative and increasingly differentiated pipeline. We're laser-focused on our wholly owned programs such as KT-621, KT-579, where we're applying Targeted protein degradation to well-validated disease-relevant pathways in immunology. At the same time, we're extending our reach through partnership like our work with Gilead advancing KT-200, our first molecular glue program, and Sanofi with IRAK4 .
What ties it all together is our commitment to pursuing high-value disease-driving targets with precision and to do it repeatedly across different therapeutic areas. The sharp focus and the consistency of result we've delivered is what gives us confidence, not just in individual programs, but in our ability to broaden and expand our pipeline. We've done a lot of groundwork over the past few years. As we sit here today, we're well-positioned to execute on our strategy and deliver on the groundbreaking promises of our programs. Our immediate priority is execution of the two KT-621 phase II-B studies. In atopic dermatitis, we're on track to complete enrollment this year in the BROADEN II study, and we expect data by mid 2027.
We continue to be encouraged by the level of interest from both investigators and patients, and it's clear the enthusiasm for the trial is high. We're tracking with our internal expectations for asthma as well, where the BREADTH study readout is expected by the end of 2027. As we advance these studies, we'll continue to assess a broader development strategy, including areas such as COPD, EoE, chronic rhinosinusitis, and others to maximize the value of the program. Turning to IRF5, we expect to report healthy volunteer data from the KT-579 phase I study in the second half of 2026. The overall goal is to demonstrate that we can safely degrade the target, and the biology translates in humans in a way that's consistent with what we've seen pre-clinically.
IRF5 has been a target of particular interest across the industry for a very long time. Jared would spend more time on the opportunity, what's compelling here is that by selectively degrading IRF5, we have the potential to impact multiple key drivers of disease with a single mechanism. If we think about lupus specifically, we're addressing autoantibodies, type one interferon, pro-inflammatory cytokines, all through one pathway. While individual drugs can address each specific pathway, we believe a single mechanism such as an IRF5 degrader has the potential to address all pathways and potentially have greater therapeutic potential. We also have several opportunities emerging in our early research pipeline and expect to disclose the next target later this year when we reach development candidate. Before I move on, I wanted to touch briefly on our Gilead collaboration.
We recently announced that Gilead has made the decision to advance KT-200, our CDK2 molecular glue, which could enter the clinic as early as next year. This program is a great example of the power of Kymera's R&D capabilities. Our ability to reach a target like CDK2 with a highly selective molecular glue really speaks to the depth and reach of our capabilities. CCNE amplified tumors need specific agents to address the underlying biology. CDK2 selective blockade has not been achieved by any investigational drugs, in my opinion, mostly because of the homology and cross-reactivity with CDK1. We designed an absolutely selective molecular glue degrader to achieve this target product profile. I'm thankful to Gilead for believing in this program early on and now for taking KT-200, Kymera Therapeutics discovered development candidate into development.
Special thanks to our CDK2 team for delivering this molecule in record time. Everything we're doing across all this program is to build long-term value. This isn't just about incremental progress. It's about our commitment to developing medicines that we believe can change treatment paradigms and expand access to important treatment options. KT-621 is the best example of our strategy in action. Our continued engagement with KOLs reinforce the growing anticipation for a therapeutic that can potentially fundamentally change the treatment paradigm in type 2 inflammatory diseases. As you all know, we have shared compelling data sets, including most recently AAD. With that as a backdrop, I thought it was worth stepping back and framing what makes this opportunity so compelling. When it comes to treating these conditions, patients and physicians are often forced to make trade-offs.
What they want most is simple: a safe, effective, and convenient option. We believe KT-621 is well-positioned to meet that need, with the potential to deliver the efficacy of biologics and the convenience of an oral pill. That matters because patients preference is clear. Given the option, many would choose oral therapy over the burden of injections, especially for chronic diseases that require long-term treatments. In fact, most patients are being treated with suboptimal therapies, such as topical creams, which can be massively ineffective, so with inhaled medicines, often because they or their prescribers are not comfortable moving to advanced systemic injectable therapies. KT-621 can change this dynamic completely, allow patients that are not well treated by these local therapies to access a simple, accessible, effective, and trusted oral pill.
When you put it all together, the mechanism, the clinical profile, and the simplicity of administration, we believe KT-621 can stand on its own as the potential to represent a true paradigm shift. As a result, our focus is to expand the market and redefine what patients and physicians should expect from treatments. When you take a broader view, the scale of opportunity really comes into focus. This is a slide you've seen before, but it's worth revisiting because it highlights just how much untapped potential still exists in type 2 inflammatory diseases, particularly for new entrants that can expand the market. Importantly, nearly 50 million patients could benefit from better therapies. This opportunity is not just about taking share from existing treatments. It's about reaching the much larger population of patients who are untreated or undertreated today.
We're already doing the work to better understand the patient population, market dynamics, and access landscape, and these insights are guiding our development and ultimately our commercial strategy. If successful, KT-621 could become the preferred option and potentially shift treatment earlier in the disease course, where earlier intervention can meaningfully reduce disease burden and progression. At AAD and through recent advisory board meeting, the feedback has been consistent. There is clear demand for a convenient, effective oral option and strong excitement around this mechanism. With that, I'll turn it over to Jared to discuss our clinical pipeline a bit more, including KT-579. Jared?
Thanks, Nello. Given the growing focus and attention on our IRF5 program, I'd like to use most of my time this morning to highlight why we are enthusiastic about this program and target. There is a significant unmet need in autoimmune diseases like lupus, which are characterized by broad immune dysregulation rather than disruption of a single pathway. While biologics have successfully validated individual targets such as type 1 interferon, proinflammatory cytokines, and B cells, these approaches act downstream and only narrowly address the underlying disease biology. As a result, many patients continue to experience inadequate responses. This is where IRF5 becomes particularly compelling. It is a genetically and biologically validated transcription factor that functions as a master regulator and central amplifier of immune responses across multiple autoimmune diseases.
When dysregulated, it drives coordinated activation of multiple inflammatory pathways, effectively locking the immune system into a persistent inflammatory state. Importantly, human genetic data connect increased IRF5 activity to these pathways that are known drivers of autoimmune disease. This biology supports our confidence that modulating IRF5 has the potential to translate into meaningful clinical benefit. KT-579 is designed to selectively degrade IRF5 and thereby rebalance immune activity by simultaneously modulating multiple downstream disease-driving pathways. Our goal is to rebalance the immune system more comprehensively and deliver a durable response compared to injectable biologics that target single pathways, while also offering the convenience of oral dosing. We continue to generate compelling preclinical data demonstrating activity across multiple disease-relevant models. These results reinforce our confidence in IRF5 and support the potential for KT-579 to offer clinical benefit.
We plan to present preclinical data, including new data in IBD models, at DDW next month and focus at EULAR in June. We have already generated a robust preclinical data package and have shown that we can effectively and selectively modulate this central node of inflammation. As you'll see here in our lupus models, KT-579 demonstrated strong and durable activity associated with deep IRF5 degradation. Importantly, the level of activity observed compares favorably to both approved therapies and other clinically active agents evaluated in similar preclinical settings. Taken together, these data further support the potential of IRF5 degradation to drive meaningful disease modification in autoimmune conditions like lupus and IBD.
I should also note that from a safety perspective, IRF5 is not essential for host defense against infectious pathogens, which suggests there may be an opportunity to modulate the immune system through IRF5 targeting without the risk of bacterial or viral infections. IRF5 knockout mice do not show any susceptibility to infections, and in our four-week GLP tox studies in non-human primates and rodents, we did not observe any adverse findings. We've now advanced KT-579 into the clinic. The phase I healthy volunteer study is designed to evaluate single and multiple ascending oral doses with a focus on achieving greater than 90% IRF5 degradation in blood and a favorable safety profile.
We will also assess pharmacodynamic activity using ex vivo stimulation assays to understand the impact of IRF5 degradation on key inflammatory pathway biomarkers upregulated by TLR7, TLR8, and TLR9 agonists, including type 1 interferons, proinflammatory cytokines, and inflammatory pathway gene transcripts. It's our expectation that we should see a 50%-80% reduction in these biomarkers across the 3 TLR pathways assessed if we're engaging IRF5 effectively, which would suggest the potential for IRF5 degradation translating into clinical activity in subsequent patient studies with KT-579. Looking ahead, we expect to report phase I healthy volunteer data in the second half of 2026. Following that, we are planning a proof of concept study, likely in lupus, where genetic and biological rationale for IRF5 targeting is particularly strong. We will share more details on the plan design later this year.
Before I wrap up, I did want to touch briefly on our STAT6 program. There continues to be a lot of excitement around new mechanisms in AD, and KT-621's profile continues to resonate well. Last month, we had the privilege of presenting the KT-621 phase I-B BroADen data at AAD during a highly attended late-breaking trial results session. In addition to the presentation, we had a strong presence at our booth at AAD and meaningful engagement with the AD patient community, including patient support groups, which reinforced the real need for new treatment options and excitement over the potential of KT-621 to provide an effective and safe oral therapy for AD.
We also connected with a number of KOLs and investigators who shared their enthusiasm for KT-621 and viewed it as one of the most promising new approaches to treating AD. New in the AAD presentation was the first detailed look at impact on body surface area, or BSA, a measure of the extent of AD skin lesions. We saw an overall mean reduction in BSA of 49% at four weeks across the two dose groups, reflecting a substantial reduction in disease burden. This, like other key clinical efficacy endpoints, included EASI and pruritus, was in line with published data for dupilumab at week four. These early data continue to highlight the potential of KT-621 in AD. We look forward to learning more in our randomized placebo-controlled phase II studies.
We are actively enrolling the KT-621 phase IIb BROADEN II and BREADTH studies in AD and asthma and look forward to sharing data from these studies by mid-2027 and late 2027, respectively. Overall we are highly encouraged by all the progress with both KT-621 and KT-579 and look forward to keeping you updated as these programs progress in the clinic. With that I'll pause here and turn the call over to Bruce.
Thanks, Jared. As I walk through the first quarter results, please refer to the tables found in today's press release, which was filed this morning. Collaboration revenue in the first quarter of 2026 of $34.4 million is attributable fully to our Gilead partnership. More broadly, with respect to Gilead, we received an upfront payment of $40 million upon signing the licensing and option agreement last year, which now has been fully recognized in our revenue. As Gilead has exercised its option on KT-200, we are due to receive $45 million investment from Gilead, which is expected to be recognized as revenue in the second quarter of 2026. As a reminder, under this agreement, we are eligible for approximately an additional $700 million in total milestone payments.
Also on the partnering front, we continue to expect Sanofi to advance KT-485 into phase I testing this year, which will include the receipt of a milestone upon dosing the first healthy volunteer. As a reminder, under the structure of the Sanofi agreement, we have the potential to realize nearly $1 billion in total milestones. With respect to operating expenses, R&D for the quarter was $98.2 million. Of that, approximately $8.6 million represented non-cash stock-based comp. The adjusted cash R&D spend of $89.6 million, which excludes that stock-based comp, reflects an 18% increase from the comparable amount in the fourth quarter of 2025. On the G&A side, our spending for the quarter was $20.4 million, of which $7.4 million was non-cash stock-based comp.
The adjusted cash G&A spend of $13 million, again, excluding that stock-based comp, reflects a 30% increase from the comparable amount in the fourth quarter of 2025. I should note that this quarter's G&A growth was elevated relative to our typical run rate, primarily driven by the timing of certain expenses. With that said, we expect G&A growth to moderate in the coming quarters. Finally, we ended March with a cash balance of $1.55 billion, providing a runway into 2029. This allows us to complete both the KT-621 phase IIb trials in AD and asthma, and to fund a large part of the first phase III trial for KT-621 in AD.
The runway also allows us to advance KT-579 through initial proof of concept testing, to progress our research pipeline, and to grow our organization and build our capabilities as we prepare for later-stage development and ultimately commercialization. Overall, we remain well-positioned and well-capitalized to execute on our clinical programs and pipeline. With that, we'll pause while we regroup in our conference room and assemble the queue for your questions. Thank you.
Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please click on the raise hand button, which can be found on the black bar at the bottom of your screen. If you've joined by phone, please dial star nine on your keypad to raise your hand. When it's your turn, you'll receive a message on your screen inviting you to join as a panelist. Please accept and wait until you're promoted to panelist. Please unmute your audio, turn on your camera, and ask your question. As a reminder, we are allowing analysts only one question today in order to accommodate everyone. We'll now pause a moment to assemble the queue. Our first question will come from Eliana Merle with Barclays. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Hi, this is Jasmine Fels on for Eliana. Thank you so much for taking our question. I just wanted to ask a bit more about the IRF5 data in healthy use we expect later this year. In your remarks, I know you said you're looking for 50%-80% modulation of the biomarker pathways in the ex vivo stimulation assays. Can you help us understand a little bit better how you get to that threshold and elaborate on what you would expect this to translate to clinically?
Thank you. Maybe I'll start and then pass it to Jared to spend a bit more time on the details. Obviously, whenever we set out these expectations are always based, especially for the first human translation around or our preclinical data. Just remember, this is a critical node that actually intersects three key pathways. We see that when we block this node, even we don't need to even get above 90% degradation, we're able to see modulation of a series of downstream biomarkers. Maybe, Jared, you can speak to how we come up with those numbers.
Yeah, y ou know, we assess these pathways, in particular the TLR7, TLR8, TLR9 pathways, with ex vivo stimulation of whole blood. That's how we're planning to do it in phase I, using agonists to the TLR7, TLR8, and TLR9 receptors. Essentially, the way we came up with 50%-80% is that, you know, our expectation based on our preclinical in vitro data is that if we're able to degrade IRF5 by at least 90%, we should be able to see that range of blockade of these particular pathways. Now, that 50%-80% is approximate. You know, whether we end up seeing within that range or more than that remains to be seen.
That's an approximate level that we would expect to see of inhibition, in conjunction with at least 90% degradation of the target.
Maybe just to add, if this was a single pathway like we've seen, for example, KT-621 with STAT6, and we have a downstream biomarker that is activated, obviously we expect complete blockade of that one biomarker. Given that these are multiple pathways, and these pathways also signal to other receptors, this is why there is a range because it depends on what pathway, what stimuli, what biomarkers. That's why there is a bit more nuance into this biology.
Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. One quick follow-up. Should we expect enrollment completion for the KT-621 AD study as more of a near-term event or likely later in the year based on the trends that you're seeing?
Yeah, great question. Look, I think we've said it from the beginning of the study, we expect to complete enrollment by the end of the year. We're gonna stick with that guidance. I think the expectation will be that when we complete enrollment, we will communicate it.
Okay. Thank you.
Our next question will come from Brian Cheng with JPMorgan. Please unmute yourself and go ahead.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking our questions this morning. You know, it's great that you have laid out the expectations for IRF5 degradations in healthy volunteers. Just kind of looking ahead into lupus patients, do you have a sense of the level of IRF5 degradations that we need to see in lupus patients where you start to see some clinical benefits? You know, in other words, is there a minimum threshold of IRF5 degradation that you need to hit in patients? For this mechanism, how translatable is it from healthy volunteers to patients in terms of IRF5 degradations? Thanks for taking our questions.
Thanks, Brian. Let's start with what we're trying to do here. As we've done now, this is the 6th program. The human translation is focused on understanding key parameters, which is, what is the exposure in those needed to achieve a level of degradation X? What level of degradation X translates in terms of clinical benefit as well as safety in patients. We always do this in multiple steps, as you know. Right now, what we're trying to figure out is what is the dose and exposure that gives us the level of degradation that we believe is therapeutically relevant. Based on preclinical data, as you know well, if the preclinical model animal model data would always translate in humans, we would have cured all diseases.
All this preclinical data have to be taken with a grain of salt. What we've learned preclinically is that, you know, as or as low as, let's say, 80% degradation is sufficient to drive, let's say, efficacy benefit in this mouse model. Benefits that actually are comparable, in many cases, superior to standard of care or drugs in development. With that in mind, our goal is always to being able to demonstrate more than 90% degradation, because that gives us the flexibility to then titrate back in a dose-ranging study and establish, as we're doing for KT-621 now, what is the level of degradation needed to achieve maximal and minimal efficacy. That's the same we're gonna do with KT-579. I think we want to establish, as Jared said, robust degradation.
We want to see more than 90%, knowing that that might not be necessary, but for us, I think it's important to demonstrate that. Translation of degradation between healthy and patients, which was the second part of your question, historically, we have never seen a difference of degradation between healthy volunteers and patients. Remember, these are catalytic molecules that do not perform depending on expression of targets, but actually perform depending on exposure of drug and thresholds of exposure. We expect that whatever we see in healthy volunteers will translate in patients. We've shown that with KT-621. We've shown it with IRAK4. We've shown it also in other programs in other disease areas.
Great. Well, thanks, Nello.
Thank you. Thanks, Brian Cheng.
Our next question will come from Faisal Khurshid with Jefferies. Please unmute your line and go ahead.
Hi, guys. This is Anant Karandikar for Faisal. Just wanted to ask about the initial enrollment in BROADEN II. Have the initial patients tracked with your expectations with respect to the baseline characteristics? Thanks so much for taking our question.
Thank you. Great question. You know, I think we're not gonna comment on, you know, what, where we are with baseline characteristics. I think it's a bit of a futile exercise until we complete the study and share the data. What I will say, historically, we've said that if you look at the early dupilumab studies, the baseline entry criteria in terms of severity of disease, you have been historically higher, meaning more severe than more recent studies. That has been, we said also historically, that there are maybe two main reasons. One is that given that there are drugs on the market, more severe patients, especially in these, you know, highly advanced, sophisticated clinical centers, more severe patients have access to these therapies.
Generally, the other main reason is to build because of the competitive landscape and the general way that sites and investigators enroll in these studies. You've seen a bit more of a less severe population in studies. I'm not talking about our studies. I'm talking about studies in the past, I would say, five to six years. We continue to have this expectation that a study that is run today, a global study, has a mean baseline that is in the mid-20s based on what we've seen historically, what we've seen in the phase Ib. I'm not going to comment about what we're seeing in the current study. We'll do so when we release the data.
Great. Thank you so much, guys.
Our next question will come from Bradley Canino from Guggenheim Securities. Please unmute your line and ask your question. Okay. Whilst Brad is just asking his question, we'll just move on to Biren Amin with Piper Sandler. Please unmute your line, turn on your camera, and ask your question.
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Thank you, Biren. I will move on to Bradley Canino with Guggenheim Securities. If you could unmute your line and ask your question. Thank you.
Hey, great g ood to see everyone. Good developments with Gilead and the molecular glue for the CDK2. I'm wondering if you could just discuss what technology advances the Kymera scientists have been able to unlock for this technology and how to achieve the needed protein-protein interactions. Should we expect more named pipeline molecules to emerge as glues over the next few years? Thanks.
Yeah, t hanks Brad y ou know, I think you know Kymera well enough to know that we've always looked at the technology as a mean to unlock value for patients through going after difficult to drug or on drug targets. We always look at what is the right technology for the right target. CDK2 is a very interesting problem, right? We know that, you know, if you have CCNE-amplified tumors, you know, there is a mechanism of resistance to CDK4/6 that goes through CDK2, that if you can get to CDK2, either alone or probably more excitingly in combination, you can really have profound effect in breast cancer and other type of solid tumors that unfortunately affect lots of women.
What has been the challenge with CDK2 has been that there is a high structural homology between CDK2 and CDK1. CDK1 doesn't actually bring any benefit to efficacy. It actually only brings safety issues. The comment I made earlier, which I'm really comfortable standing by, I don't believe there are absolutely selective CDK2 agents out there, at least in our hands. You're gonna run into those limiting toxicity. I'm sorry if I'm going too long here. We're gonna run into those limiting toxicity because CDK1 comes in play, and you'd actually do not exploit fully the power of CDK2, either alone or in combination. Why are we using molecular glues for this target is because in the traditional binding site that people use for CDK2, which is the ATP binding pocket, there is just high structural homology.
We have published on a ATP binding site-based bifunctional degrader. While we were able to have enough selectivity, it wasn't good enough for us. We moved on from that effort. We said, "How do we get absolute CDK1 selectivity?" We did it through a protein-protein interaction-enabled molecular glue that is outside of the ATP binding pocket. This is the kind of the premise to my answer, which is yes.
I mean, you should expect Kymera to have other programs from our pipeline that will use this concept because this is just a continuation of protein degradation. It's just, again, solving a different problem with a slightly different solution. Yes, we expect to see more from there in any therapeutic areas. This is not just relegated, let's say to oncology.
Thanks.
Our next question will come from Geoff Meacham with Citi. Please unmute your camera and your audio and ask your question.
Hey, guys t his is Nishant Gandhi on for Geoff Meacham. Thanks for taking the question. I want to go back to the data you presented at AAD. In terms of the body surface area, you saw higher reduction at 100 mg versus 200 mg , you didn't see much dose response. Is this simply like a small sample noise, or is there, like, a pharmacological explanation such as, like, maximal degradation plateau effects?
Yeah. I actually let Jared actually speak to the data. I just wanna remind you and everybody that 100 mg and 200 mg gave the same degradation; hence we expect to see similar activity. Jared, maybe you can speak to BSA.
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Which I actually don't remember the numbers.
Yeah. If you look at the error bars, you know, on those graphs, they're actually overlapping. Differences between 120 mg are really not significant differences, and it's probably, you know, a function of the small ends. I think whether you look at BSA or EASI or the other clinical endpoints that we looked at through four weeks in that study, you know, you don't always see complete overlap of the curves, but you do see overlap of the, of the error bars. I think that tells us that, you know, we're seeing comparable activity across both doses, across multiple different endpoints.
Got it. Just to follow up on that, in terms of EASI versus BSA, you see like a gap in magnitude. Again, given, like, it's a small sample size, is this expected given that, you know, EASI captures both extent and severity while, you know, BSA measures just extent alone? Does this suggest to you that there is deeper severity improvement with this molecule versus surface area clearance at four weeks?
Can I just jump into this, Jared? I'm not gonna actually address the specific question. I just wanna say that we've said, I've said multiple times, let's try not to overinterpret the individual numbers in such a small study with, as Jared said, the confidence interval between the two doses were almost completely overlapping. I think the important take-home from the study is that all these measures show the robust effect, consistent across all measures and consistent with upstream biologics. Jared, if you wanna add on the particular topic.
I think, I think your point is the main one. I think, you know, BSA and EASI, they are overlapping but sort of distinct measures, right? As you said, BSA is looking more at the extent of disease. EASI is taking into account both the sort of severity of individual lesions as well as the extent of disease. There's an overlap there. The bottom line is that we're seeing a comparable robust effect on both of those endpoints with KT-621.
All right. Thank you.
Our next question will come from Mayank Mamtani from B. Riley Securities. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Yes. Good morning, team. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. On STAT6, you know, there's a lot of activity in the inhibitor landscape, for example. I was just curious what questions, Nello, you have, you know, for some of these highly potent, you know, claim to be selective approaches emerging. You know, from the preclinical data, KT-621 does stand out based on whatever's available. We'll probably get some clinical data next year from you and others. Just curious, how do you expect the clinical data here to, you know, maintain your leadership? Then just quickly on the KT-621, you know, physician excitement maybe between AD and asthma. Recognize you are yet to present your data at ATS next month.
Any thoughts on, you know, between the two indications, the importance of oral versus maybe less frequent injectable, like, you know, if you have teased out what matters more to the different set of clinicians?
Okay. Well, those are two robust questions. On the first one, thank you. On the first one, small molecules, degraders we've you know touched on these also extensively in the past. First of all, recognize that STAT6 has been seen as a key difficult and drug target, but huge potential for more than a decade. It's actually quite exciting to see so many companies, large and small, pouring, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars into this mechanism. Mostly, I would say, following the exciting data that we started to share as early as January of 2024. Obviously, we've been working on these targets for multiple years. I think it's great, first of all, that there is a lot of enthusiasm around this target.
The reason why we believe that degraders are gonna be highly differentiated is because we are so fortunate that while obviously technology requires a level of understanding that is not easily commoditized yet. These molecules, though, with the, obviously the challenge that it takes to make highly specific component degraders, the upside is that they are catalytic in nature and require exceptionally low exposures. We're talking about nanomolar to picomolar to completely remove STAT6, which allows us to have complete degradation at very low doses, and importantly, at very low exposures, so that we can deliver a drug once a day. Actually, technically, you could probably deliver a drug less frequently than once a day. With a small molecule inhibitor, as you know, you're inhibiting stoichiometrically the target. One molecule blocks one protein.
For this type of protein, you require a large amount of molecules in the body, in all tissues, for 24 hours. This becomes a challenge with regards to PK, exposure, safety, therapeutic index. In our experience, and I think we've said this publicly, we've invested actually quite heavily in small molecule inhibitors to actually answer the question, do we need a degrader if an inhibitor is good enough? Our answer is yes, you need a degrader because inhibitor can't quite reach the level of pathway blockade that a catalytic degrader can. I think the beautiful thing about drug development is at the end of the day, I can spend the next, the next hour trying to convince you that I'm right.
The best thing is that we'll generate data soon enough, and I think that will be the final nail on the coffin on this argument for us, I hope. With regards to your second question, you know, we've had the fortune and hopefully with it also something good about generating and importantly presenting our data in many medical conferences. We were fortunate to be selected at the podium at EAACI, which I believe was probably the first time for healthy volunteer data. I might not be sure. We presented at AD, we presented at ATS last year, preclinical data we'll present later. There is a very high appreciation from the medical community, both AD and asthma, about the potential of an oral drug in this space.
I just wanna remind you, whether it's AD or asthma, the majority of patients are not controlled well or not treated well with either local therapy like inhalers or topicals, and not enough of them are on advanced systemic biologics. Our goal is not to compete with less frequent dosing. That might come in play as just the market dynamics. We're actually trying to mobilize the millions of patients that are sitting on the sidelines because they feel, or their prescribers feel, they're not ready for an injectable biologics. We offer that biologic- like oral pill that will change their lives. I think we're seeing in other disease area, it's a complete different paradigm shift, and that's really what we're focused on.
I think this is obviously resonates with investigators, and more importantly, resonates with patients based on our experience.
Thank you, Nello.
Thank you.
Thank you. Just as a reminder, if we could just stick with one question just to accommodate everyone today. Our next question will come from Judah Frommer with Morgan Stanley. Please unmute your line and go ahead.
Yeah. Hey, guys, thanks for taking the question. You know, maybe just building on the last one, I think it's fair to say you've established a sort of playbook for phase I studies in AD. Just curious to get your take on that excitement for KT-621 on the oral aspect versus the mechanism aspect. There are others going after oral drugs, but maybe in more novel targets. The level of excitement for the oral nature of the drug, but also the fact that you're hitting IL-4/IL-13, which is so well understood by docs. Just within the landscape, curious specifically maybe on anything around IL-18 that you see as interesting within AD or more broadly, and how that could apply to the IRAK4 program. Thanks.
Yeah. Thanks, Judah. I like your 90 years in your backdrop. You're 80 years older than Kymera at Morgan Stanley. Yes, to answer your question, I think you put it exactly right. The reason for the excitement for KT-621 is not just about the oral drug. I think it's the combination of oral, which is, you know, needed in this still early markets, but combine it with the sense of understanding and comfort of a well-validated pathways like IL-4 and IL-13. I think that's really what's making this drug and this program very unique in the space. I mean, as you know well, there are several other potential oral mechanisms out there, which to be honest I hope that they have a path forward beyond early phase I data.
I think obviously what the burden of proof for a mechanism in the IL-4 and IL-13 pathway, I assume is a bit less than it is for completely new pathways with completely unproven efficacy and safety. I don't know, Jared, if there was anything to add to the second part.
Yeah, yeah, t he only thing I would add, you know, to the first part too is just around, you know, cause you talked about mechanism, Judah, and I think there is an appreciation that the unique TPD mechanism, that catalytic mechanism of action that can lead to durable, maintained, complete target suppression or pathway suppression that equals what you can get with upstream injectable biologics. I think that's a big selling point here with regard to, you know, degraders versus small molecule inhibitors. You asked about IL-18. I mean, IL-18, you know, some of those initial data coming out of Ilumya, you know are interesting, right? I think it sort of speaks to the fact that AD you know, does not have just one flavor of inflammation, right?
Obviously, Th2 is one of the main drivers of the pathophysiology but, you know, other types of inflammation, whether it be, you know, Th1, Th17-driven, probably have some contribution as well. Seeing activity with a drug targeting IL-18, you know, probably speaks to that. Again, you know, it's not as well-validated a pathway here in AD. It's interesting to see the results coming out of that, and it, you know, makes one think of interesting possibilities down the road maybe for combination therapies, you know, by bringing on other drugs that are hitting other types of inflammation in addition to type 2 inflammation.
Thanks.
Our next question will come from Biren Amin with Piper Sandler. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
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All right. on BROADEN II, I noticed in the press release that you're also including adolescents in addition to adults in the trial. I think more recently there was some inclusion criteria changes in the trial where you're now requiring, I think adult patients you know needing at least three years of chronic disease, whereas with adolescent it's a requirement of at least one year. Can you just maybe talk about the implications of that change?
Yeah. I mean, the addition is the inclusion of adolescents to the study. Again, this is part of our overall strategy to change treatment paradigm for adult and more importantly, I would say, for young children. Adolescents is step one, right? This is a disease of young children usually diagnosed in your first probably six years of life. A drug like KT-621 could have a huge potential in children. That's the main reason why we want to study this drug in younger population as early as possible. Jared, I don't know if you want to comment to.
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About the inclusion, exclusion criteria.
Yeah. I think in terms of exclusion, you know, the Hanifin and Rajka criteria, right, for AD, like you wanna make sure that your patients have AD. One element of that to make sure you're getting patients with that diagnosis is they need to have a diagnosis for a certain number of years. For adults, obviously, cause they're older, you know, the cutoff there is at least three years. With adolescents, because they're younger, have had the disease for a shorter period of time, there's a one-year cutoff. Again, the reason for both of those is to give you, like, increased certainty that these patients truly have a diagnosis of AD.
Got it. Then maybe just one question on IRF. There's clearly, you know, IRF translocation in Naïve B cells, plasma blasts and monocytes in patients with lupus. I know you know, translocation healthy volunteers is low, but is there anything you could do ex vivo to evaluate the impact of IRF degradation on translocation?
Yeah. It's unlikely that we're gonna see activation or translocation IRF5 in healthy volunteers. I don't think that's what we're gonna be looking for. We're gonna be, as Jared said, looking at ex vivo stimulation of the blood, with or without translocation. Again, I think there's probably close to 0% chance we'll find that in healthy volunteers, but we'll interrogate the pathway regardless of that. All right, next one.
Our next question will come from Alex Thompson with Stifel. Please unmute your line and go ahead.
Great. Good morning, thanks for taking our question. You know, maybe again on the ongoing, you know, AD and asthma studies. Could you talk a little about kind of, you know, more color on enrollment progress, site activation, your level of oversight of these sites? Maybe, could you know, tell us how many patients have been dosed at this point across both studies? That'd be helpful. Thanks.
Yeah. No, obviously, great question. As I said, we're trying not to comment on these things, not because we're, you know, wanna be secretive. I think it's only productive to do it at the end. I think what I can say is that the studies are on track in both in terms of set activations and patient enrollment. The timelines that we've that we put out are obviously still relevant. As I said, I think the best way to manage this particular question is, you know, as soon as we complete enrollment, we will communicate, and then maybe then we can, you know, answer more specific questions about, you know, what we've seen and pace of enrollment, activation, et cetera.
All right, thanks.
Our next question will come from Marc Frahm with TD Cowen. Please unmute your line and ask your question. Marc, please unmute your line and ask your question.
Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just back to prior comments about, you know, the attractiveness of oral options and the, you know, the enthusiasm also for the mechanism. I mean, can you contrast KT-621 with the IL-23 space? We're seeing that launch you know, just starting now in the psoriasis space, and just how much should we view the success hopefully of that product as a proxy for KT-621 versus how different do you think these markets are in terms of their you know, eagerness for an oral therapy?
Yeah. Thanks, Marc. I don't want to hitch our wagon onto any other mechanism or drugs because we don't control those. It is a fair point that I think we're seeing finally something we've been saying for a while, which is, you know, novel oral mechanisms that can deliver, in some cases close to biologics like activity having a ton of enthusiasm. Obviously the psoriasis market is very mature. There are drugs that you can dose every three months or even less in some cases that are extremely effective. We're seeing even less frequent dosing. Obviously, you start to wonder you know, what's the driver for that, but that's likely it's not what we're working on. You know, the question is very mature market.
Can an oral drug with good efficacy and safety even impact the landscape? It looks like it will. I mean, I was at AAD and lots of, not to advertise for Johnson & Johnson, our friend at Johnson & Johnson but lots of dermatologists were super excited by that drug. Clearly, even in a well-established, super mature market where there are already multiple blockbuster drugs, a drug like that seems to be highly differentiated. We're talking in AD, where there is no oral drug with good safety and efficacy. There is really only, like, two categories of drugs approved, an IL-4, IL-13, and then all the other IL-13's that are not differentiated and JAK inhibitors. This is where psoriasis was 10 years ago.
Bringing to the market something that is so differentiated so early in the treatment, in the, in the market evolution, I think will have a much bigger effect than what we might be seeing with IL-23 in psoriasis. I think it validates, but more importantly, I think our opportunity is probably much more impactful given the, again, the maturity of that market. You know, one could point to the obesity space, but that's a whole different market dynamics. You're seeing also there, these new orals are activating whole new mostly new patients, right? And that's really what our, I think what many of these oral drugs are there to do, is to really serve the millions of patients that are not on these advanced therapies.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Joseph Catanzaro with Mizuho.
Hey, great thanks guys. Appreciate you taking the questions. quick one from me on along the lines of KT-579's preclinical data at DDW and maybe also your comments on mechanism earlier. There seems to be a growing effort towards developing combination therapies in IBD, so wanted to ask about IRF5's mechanism and where you see it as most orthogonal or complementary with existing mechanisms in IBD like alpha-4 beta-7, IL-23, TL1A. Thanks.
Fortunately, I'll let Jared answer this one. Jared, I give you 30 seconds to come up with the answer while I say what I'm gonna say. Fortunately, I think what we're trying to do here at Kymera is bringing a completely new mechanism to the IBD space, hopefully. Obviously, we haven't committed to developing in that space yet, but versus obviously you know, combining existing mechanism or other things. Jared, maybe you can speak to the science of it.
Yeah. I mean, I think one of the great aspects of IRF5 is that it really controls signaling through multiple different pathways. We talked about type 1 interferon, we talked about B cells and autoantibodies, but also myeloid cells, you know, monocytes, potentially neutrophils, also dendritic cells. When it comes to inflammatory bowel disease, the myeloid component in particular is very important in diseases like ulcerative colitis, for example, where you have cytokines like IL-12, TNF, IL-6, and others that are driving that inflammation.
I think being able to target IRF5, you know, in IBD really helps get at that particular component of inflammation that's really important in ulcerative colitis and will lend itself, you know, to potentially combining with other mechanisms that go beyond those particular proinflammatory cytokines if you wanna, you know, be able to tackle multiple different aspects of the pathophysiology of a disease like UC or Crohn's. I think that's the beauty of it. I think the other aspect is the potential safety profile of IRF5, you know, and being able to knock IRF5 down hard and not really having there be risk of infectious complications. That also will lend itself to combinations.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Jeet Mukherjee with BTIG. Please unmute your line and go ahead.
Great. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe coming back to the market opportunity for KT-621. Nello, before you mentioned you're looking to mobilize patients on the sidelines because they aren't ready for an injectable, could you maybe put some numbers or quantification around how big that population is on the sidelines due to needle aversion or phobias around that, particularly in atopic dermatitis? Thanks.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and to be clear, I don't think what's driving that is needle phobia. I mean, there is a percentage of it. I think it's probably relatively a small percentage. I think most of it is, again, it's the barrier to an advanced systemic injectable therapy that both prescribers and patients have for you know, just accepting or feeling like there is a need of having a protein injected in your body for a disease like atopic dermatitis. I think that's really what's blocking people from transitioning from topicals into advanced systemic therapies. The numbers are out there. You know, we talk about. You know, if you just talk about AD, there's probably 40 million patients, with moderate to severe AD.
Maybe it's easier to do. You know, we have the number of 50 million that includes also other type 2 inflammatory diseases. Really only almost less than 2 million patients have received dupilumab, Adbry, Rinvoq in these, in these, in these diseases. You know, some companies do the math differently, but those are the numbers. If you look at diagnosed moderate to severe patients, we're talking about tens of millions of patients. If you look about treated patients with this advanced systemic therapy, we're talking about less than 2 million. That's the opportunity, and that's far greater than, for example, the opportunity in psoriasis these days. I think it's really hard actually to put the value on KT-621 right now.
I think, you know, a lot of us are being quite conservative for, you know, a good reason. We're still relatively early in the development of the drug. I believe strongly that post this phase II-B data, we need to get much more, I think, aggressive with what we're really talking about. I think maybe that would be a good time to talk about more discrete numbers.
Okay. Thanks folks.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Sudan Loganathan with Stephens. Please unmute your line and go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, Bruce, Nello and Jared. My question is on the KT-621 program for asthma and related downstream indications. You know, as we get our first look at asthma data in the late 2027, does that outcome dictate read-through and investment in going forward with COPD and other related indications? Also, are there any other go, no-go decisions much like this coming in the next 12 months as we start seeing more data for KT-621? Thanks.
Yeah, no, I think as we said thank you multiple times, it's really about dose selection. We hope to be able to take the phase III dose that we'll use in asthma in other diseases. We have absolute confidence that the drug will work in all type 2 diseases. We're really waiting for the phase III dose that will come out from the phase II-B asthma study.
Thanks.
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Hi, guys. This is Anna on from Truist. Thanks for taking our question. Just one question on KT-621. I know you haven't disclosed the doses that you're going to be pursuing, but I was just wondering if you could give us a sense of the dose response range you're hoping to show with the three doses.
Yeah. You know, I don't think we're gonna get into it. I think we always think about, you know, the opportunity to explore a lower dose in which you'll see less activity for, you know, both kind of mechanistic and regulatory reasons, and then obviously a dose that would be optimal to move forward within the three doses. That's how we're thinking about the dose selection.
Thanks so much.
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Evan Szakos with RBC Capital Markets.
All right. Thank you.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. On KT-579, as you think about optimizing its therapeutic window, you know, you mentioned you're going to be looking at degradation and some of the biomarkers. Anything specific that you're going to be looking out for on the side effects side there, just based on the mechanistic or preclinical data? Is it just over suppression over the immune system or any other things that IRF5 or the other IRFs may be involved in metabolism, epithelial cells, et cetera? Thanks.
Thank you. Based on pre-clinical data, we really haven't seen, in animals at least, adverse event of meaningful impact or any actually. The question is always this theoretical infection risk. We know that all the IRFs are contributing to pathogen surveillance, and so we believe that removing only one should not have an impact on that. I think that's what we'll see obviously as things progress, but we don't expect any particular adverse event here with this drug of note.
Thank you.
Our next question will come from Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America. My apologies, we now have Derek Archila from Wells Fargo. Please unmute your line and go ahead.
Good morning, this is Hal calling in for Derek, thank you for the question. We were at AAD that we hear also KOLs noting KT-621's, you know, the most promising candidates in AD. A question on, you know, the efficacy. I think they wanted, you know, perfect safety. On the efficacy side, I think we are hearing that even if it's less effective as Dupixent, some of them point to, you know, 70% as effective, others using, you know, or Adbry as example, you know, they will still be very excited. I guess my question is like what you are hearing on what's enough to kind of really mobilizing those patients, you know, with not on biology, but be open to this oral option?
Yeah, I mean, you've said it. I think I agree with you and obviously we've heard the same things, which is you don't need to have biologics like efficacy to mobilize millions of patients from a topical therapy. The only reason why we keep pointing to a Dupi-like profile is because this is the data we've seen so far. If we end up seeing less, I think this could still be a huge drug in the space.
Awesome. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Well, that is all we have time for questions for now. I would now like to turn the call over to Mainolfi for closing remarks.
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