Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome, everyone, to the Lockheed Martin Second Quarter 2012 Earnings Results Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Jerry Kircher, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, Karen, and good morning. I'd like to welcome everyone to our Q2 2012 earnings conference call. Joining me today on the call are Bob Stevens, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Chris Kubasik, our Vice Chairman, President and Chief Operating Officer and Bruce Tanner, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Statements made in today's call that are not historical fact are considered forward looking statements and are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of federal securities law. Actual results may differ.
Please see today's press release and our TC filings for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to vary materially from anticipated results. We have posted charts on our website today that we plan to address during the call to supplement our comments. Please access our website at www.lockheedmartin.com And click on the Investor Relations link to view and follow the charts. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Bob. Thanks, Jerry.
Thanks, everyone, for being with us today. We'll proceed on the assumption that you've had an opportunity to review our releases this morning. Since we last spoke in April, We've undertaken a fair amount of international travel to talk directly with our customers and government leaders consistent with our strategy to increase Our international work while we rebalance national security spending here in the United States. While all governments are clearly watching the global economic environment, All are keenly aware of growing security challenges. As we assess our portfolio, We believe we possess the systems, the capabilities, the skills and the resources to support our security cooperation partners around the globe.
And I was very gratified to see strong broad based operational performance in the Q2 throughout the company Based on solid execution and disciplined focus, we believe our portfolio gives us opportunities to continue to expand international sales. Relative to the government fiscal year 2013 defense budget, the House has marked in committee both the defense authorization creation bills, including defense. And the Senate has marked the Defense Authorization Bill and Committee and will likely mark The defense appropriation bill by the end of this month. At this point, however, we do not expect the bills to be in place at the beginning of the government's fiscal year on October 1, but rather have a continuing resolution that will commence on 1 October And likely extend through the end of the calendar year, enabling the Congress to convene a lame duck session after the election, Where we believe a broader number of very important issues like the debt limit extension, entitlement reform, tax policy and spending levels, Together, sometimes referred to as the fiscal cliff issues will be addressed. Sequestration continues to be of great concern to us.
There is at present very little insight or detailed understanding as to how sequestration will be implemented, even though this law Requiring an additional $55,000,000,000 reduction in both defense and in non defense discretionary accounts in the Congress to stop sequestration and replace it with a more constructive process or if sequestration is to occur, Provide the necessary planning information so we can properly and responsibly prepare to act. I'll be happy to cover these or any other Thanks in more detail during our discussion. But first, let's turn to Chris for the operational report and Bruce for the financials. Chris? Thanks, Bob.
From an operating perspective, we had a very strong quarter in an uncertain and challenging environment. In the area of new business, we had several multi year awards that allow us to offer innovative, relevant and affordable solutions to our customers. In Electronic Systems, the U. S. Navy awarded a 5 year $1,000,000,000 contract to provide more than 200 digital cockpits and integrated And sensors for the new M860 Romeo and Sierra Helicopters.
DimAVI will realize significant savings due to the multi year contracting vehicle. In Information Systems and Global Solutions, our team continues to build upon their impressive string of competitive wins over the last 6 months. We were previously awarded the National Science Foundation and Arctic contract and the DoD Cybercrime Center contract. This quarter, we won the Defense Information System Agency contract to manage the transformation of the DoD's global data network. IS and GS also achieved another milestone with its recognition as the top IT service provider to the federal government for the 18th consecutive year.
Let me just now turn to some of our key operational achievements in the quarter. Electronic Systems delivered the 2nd Littoral Combat Ship to Fort Worth. Our team successfully completed acceptance trials and delivered the ship to the U. S. Navy in June, 2 months ahead of schedule and under cost.
Our LCS team achieved another important milestone when the Navy's Board of Inspection and Survey completed their review of our first ship, The USS Freedom and declared the ship fit for duty. I just returned from Singapore and there is much excitement and anticipation for the USS Freedom arriving Expand critical capabilities in the growing area of missile defense with intercepts of targets by 2 of our systems. Our Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system successfully intercepted a target missile using the upgraded AEGIS system for the first time. Additionally, our PAC-three missile successfully And destroyed a cruise missile target demonstrating the unique ability of the system to detect, track and destroy At extended range, missile defense is a growing market internationally and we are well positioned with our broad portfolio of Aegis, Patriot, MEADS and THAAD along with the related command and control and battle management systems. In our Space Systems business, The 2nd advanced DHF military communication satellites for the U.
S. Air Force was launched and we delivered 2 commercial satellites in the quarter. Let me wrap up with the F-thirty five status. Overall, the program continues to gain momentum in developmental flight testing, production activities and international interest. Flight tests on the development program are progressing at a solid pace.
Year to date through June, Test flights are significantly ahead of plan by 150 flights or 34% and test points are also ahead of plan by over 900 points or 24%. Software development is another area of progress on the program. As we've mentioned on previous calls, Software development is a critically important element of the F-thirty five program. We discussed some schedule pressures during our last call And I'm pleased to report that we are seeing improvements to the schedule. As a further showing of software maturity and deployment, We began flying the Block IIA software on the first Stovall aircraft in June.
This block is now flying on CTOL and Stovall aircraft. Production activities are continuing to progress. In our Q2, we delivered 3 production aircraft. Since then, we've delivered 7 additional aircraft bringing year to date production deliveries to 12. Included in this total is the 1st international aircraft Delivered to the United Kingdom.
In the area of new production contracts, we were pleased with the award of $490,000,000 for long lead on LRIP 7 this quarter. This authorization enables procurement activities to begin for 35 aircraft And add stability to the supplier base and production line. Internationally, the F-thirty 5 program continued to receive strong support. This quarter Norway announced their initial order for 2 aircraft, which is expected to be followed by up to 50 additional aircraft. After the close of the quarter, Japan reaffirmed their intentions to purchase the F-thirty 5 and signed a letter of offer and acceptance to order 4 initial aircraft.
Additionally, international new business opportunities continue to emerge on the F-thirty 5. This past quarter, we submitted a proposal to supply The aircraft to South Korea. The announcement of the winning aircraft is scheduled to occur before the end of the year. Overall, the program is demonstrating increasing maturity and tempo and the global F-thirty five team looks forward to providing this critical asset To our nation and allies, with current aircraft deployment of 19 operational aircraft to Eglin Air Force Base, including the UK Aircraft, Plus 8 test aircraft at Patuxent Naval Air Station, 6 more test aircraft at Edwards Air Force Base And just over 70 aircraft in production flow, the F-thirty 5 program is making good progress. With that, I'll turn it over to Bruce to discuss our financials.
Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. As I highlight our key financial accomplishments, please follow along the web charts We included with our earnings release today. Let's begin with Chart 3 and an overview of the Q2. We grew sales for the company by 3% versus the second Quarter of 2011. I'll describe the drivers behind that growth on the next chart.
Our segment operating profit margins improved by 60 basis points to 12.3 percent and I'll also provide more color on that improvement in a couple of charts. Earnings per share from continuing operations increased by 10% driven by the higher sales volume and margin improvement. We generated $845,000,000 in cash from operations while contributing more than 6 $100,000,000 into our pension plans. This amount completes the $1,100,000,000 in required contributions for the year. And as you saw in our earnings release, we've increased our outlook for operating profit, earnings per share and cash from operations.
On Chart 4, we'll look at sales by the 4 business areas. As in the first quarter, sales were slightly ahead of our with 3 of our 4 business areas growing. Aeronautics grew 1% in the quarter led by additional quantities of S-sixteen deliveries. This growth was dampened by the labor strike in Fort Worth, particularly on the F-thirty 5 program. Electronic Systems had 2% growth in the quarter, driven by our Mission Systems and Sensors business unit, which had higher volume for our persistent threat detection system or PTIDS, along with higher activity on our LCS and MH-sixty programs.
Space Systems had significant growth in the quarter driven by the delivery of 2 commercial Satellites versus none in the Q2 last year. We also had higher volume on the Orion program compared with last year. And finally, IS and GS declined by 4%, driven mostly by a reduction in sales for the AMF jitters program. As with the Q1, IS and GS' sales reduction was less than we had expected with continuing growth in our intelligence line of business, particularly in federal cyber activity, Helping to lessen the decline. Chart 5 shows the segment margin levels for each of the 4 business areas.
The primary reason for the overall margin increase to 12.3% was due to improvements in our Aeronautics and Electronics Systems business areas. I'd like to discuss these in a little more detail. Within Aeronautics, there were several factors that resulted in 1st, we reduced our profit booking rate for the F-thirty five SDD contract from just Over 4% to just under 4%, which yield an inception to date $85,000,000 reduction in profit in the quarter. While we had previously assumed a decremented amount for the remaining fee would be earned, this adjustment reduces that amount even more. We made this adjustment as there is currently no plan in place with the government for how over $500,000,000 of remaining fee can be earned We are nearing the point where the amount of profit recorded would exceed the amount of fees received to date on the contract.
In addition, we've been disappointed recently with the amount of fee available to be earned for developmental milestones and the government's evaluations of our performance against those milestones compare with our own assessment. Importantly, because of where we are from percent complete basis on the development contract, The vast majority of the profit adjustment affects the current year. The lower rate has little incremental impact on future margins and earnings for Aeronautics. This FDD adjustment was substantially offset by contractual resolutions on other firms such as the F-twenty 2, Leaving outstanding performance on our C-one hundred and thirty program, particularly on international contracts, is the principal reason for the improved margin performance in the quarter. And as Chris mentioned, we're pleased with our progress on the F-thirty five program as a whole.
Looking at the margin for Electronic Systems, the story is similar to Aeronautics. Improved performance on a number of programs drove the higher margin as contractual resolutions offset profit rate reductions on a few programs And severance costs for workforce reductions at MS2. Within IS and GS, the higher margin results from a Slight improvement in our intelligence line of business across a number of contracts and the reduction in the margin at Space Systems primarily reflects lower equity earnings due to Higher earnings associated with risk retirements on the Orion program helped to partially offset the lower equity earnings. Turning to Chart 6 and earnings per share in the quarter. EPS from continuing operations grew 10% over the amount reported last year And adjusting our reported EPS for the effects of the FAS CAS adjustment increases our earnings per share to $2.77 per share.
If you'll turn to Chart 7, you can see our operating cash flow performance in the quarter compared with last year. Adjusting for the higher Contributions we made this year compared with last, our pre pension cash flow was more than $1,400,000,000 And after considering the strong performance during the first half of the year and our expectations for the rest of the year, we increased our guidance for operating cash flow by $100,000,000 to greater than or equal to $3,900,000,000 for the year. On Chart 8, we'll discuss our updated guidance. We're maintaining our sales outlook, although we are updating 2 of the business areas within this guidance level as we'll discuss shortly. We increased segment operating profit by $125,000,000 We also increased our earnings per share as I'll detail on next chart.
And again, we increased our cash from operations by $100,000,000 Chart 9 shows our EPS outlook reconciliation. The segment operating profit increase added $0.25 to our outlook. Several items partially offset that increase, making the net increase to our annual EPS $0.20 resulting in a new range of $7.90 to $8.10 per share. Chart 10 shows our sales outlook where we lowered aeronautics $200,000,000 for the year, primarily reflecting the effects of the strike. About half of the reduction is for lower F-thirty five volume and the other half is an expected slip of 3 F-sixteen aircraft out of 2012 into 2013.
Offsetting this reduction is a $200,000,000 increase in space systems, reflecting their strong performance year to date. Slide 11 shows our new segment operating profit guidance. Again, the total increase is $125,000,000 with Aeronautics and Electronics Systems both increasing $50,000,000 for the year, while Space Systems increased $25,000,000 And finally, we wrap up with our summary on Chart 12. We've had an excellent first half of the year, which reflects the strength of our portfolio and the affordability Looking ahead to the Q3, we expect sales will be about $1,000,000,000 lower than 20 11 results, primarily due to decreases in Aeronautics We expect segment operating margins to be comparable to last year's and cash from operations to exceed $1,000,000,000 With that, we're ready for your questions. Karen?
Thank you, sir. In the interest of time, we are limiting you to one question. Please return to the queue for any follow-up questions. Our first question comes from the line of Heidi Wood from Morgan Stanley.
Good morning. Bob, A tactical near term question and a second strategic question for you, if you don't mind. The Anti Deficiency Act precludes the government from Spending more than Congress authorizes and many contracts are incrementally funded, which means warrants should start affecting 3 and 4Q results. To what extent does the 2012 guidance reflect this? And can you help us understand your key assumptions?
Will you pay employees out of profits and assume retroactive authorization? Or Does your guidance presume stoppage of many of your large contracts? And can you touch on which large contracts are most at risk under warrant?
That's a comprehensive question. Hi, good morning. I think the details of your question highlight many of details that have gone into our requests for additional guidance because there is considerable uncertainty in understanding exactly How sequestration would be implemented and how, for example, unobligated balances might be affected, how those on Excluded or included in the total amount to be sequestered because that has a fairly significant impact On the percentage reductions, so I think your question is front running a little bit of the detail we have. I'm sure that our government customers are thinking about their responsibilities under the anti deficiency See provisions, I think they understand that pretty well. And I think the final part of your question was which Contracts, particularly the significant ones might be most affected.
And here again, I think the devil lies a little bit in the details of understanding exactly The across the board reductions, perhaps net of funds flowing from unobligated balances versus new obligational authority subject Sequestration will impact our individual contracts. So of course, we have significant portfolio areas. Chris mentioned missile defense. Chris mentioned the tactical aircraft portfolio, our airlift capability, our space systems programs. We think some of our Classified activity likely will all be subject to sequester and which programs will absorb what percent of cost reduction is not yet clear to us.
Hey, Heidi. I'll jump in on one comment. As Bob said in his opening remarks, we have We are contemplating a continuing resolution in the Q4 of this year. And I'll say that affects our business areas Differently, depending on sort of where they are in the lifecycle. The one that's the most impacted is IS and GS, typically because it's a shortest cycle business that we have.
So I would say we're probably being a little cautious perhaps in the guidance that we're giving considering the fact that we do believe that continuing resolution is likely
And our next question comes from the line of Jason Gursky from Citi.
Good morning, everyone.
Hi, Jason.
Bruce, I just was wondering if we could talk a little bit about cash And maybe start off with some comments around the FASCAS and the harmonization of that system. I know that Starting back in February, you were able to begin raising your rates and including FASCAS harmonization Going forward, just wondering how that process is going and whether the outlook that you've talked about in the past and the impact that FASCAS will have for you Going forward, what that kind of looks like? And then just on the cash topic, the use this quarter on the Share repurchase still has you pacing below the $1,000,000,000 that you've talked about targeting for repurchases. Can you just give us an update on that as well? Thank you.
Yes, sure, Jason.
So as far as sort of the current status of how CaaS is going and is it tracking to what we talked about in the past? I would say yes, it is. That law I think was signed February 27th of this year, we've already negotiated across the corporation a number of what we call our forward pricing rate agreements that have the effects Of cash harmonization included in them. So I'll say that is that's sort of the business as usual at this point right now. You've seen as we've all seen the effects of lower interest rates through the first Half of this year, they're definitely lower probably than where we were at the end of last year.
Of course, we don't set those rates until the end of this year. But if we were to set them today, they'd be lower than where we were last year. Our asset returns, I think are doing actually fairly comparable to what our expectations were. The one thing I think that's Change, Jason, that's important to consider not necessarily this year, but in future years Excuse me, the Highway Bill that was passed recently, which had a consideration for reducing some of the funding required by ERISA. And that has the effect of lowering the requirements for our ERISA contributions beginning next Sure.
The modeling of that's a little complicated and I won't get into it. But basically think of a band of around the sort of a 25 year average Of interest rates and if you're outside that, if your current interest rate or discount rate is outside of that band and you use the 25 year average, We're definitely outside of that band as we go into 2013. And so we'll use that 25 year average, which is a much higher rate than what we're currently experiencing. That has the effect of I think I tried to tee up on the call in the Q1 that we had Arista required contributions of more than $2,000,000,000 going into next year compared to $1,100,000,000 this year. That change in the funding consideration change including the highway transportation bill would lower The required contribution to about the level comparable to what we're seeing this year.
So somewhere in the 1.1 ish Range, there may be a little flexibility there because we haven't quite seen the final rates come out of that yet. So there may be a little bit of play, but not much I would guess. And so just as we get bigger hits sort of for negative events due to the size of our pension plan, we also get bigger benefits when there are positive Events as well. I'll remind you also that the pension the reduced pension brings with it a reduced Tax deduction as well. So you shouldn't think of the $1,000,000,000 as being a pure cash because there will be less tax deduction associated with that $1,000,000,000 less.
You also asked With that $1,000,000,000 less. You also asked about share repurchases and we are a little bit light in the first half of the year. We've made no change in our commitment to the $1,000,000,000 outlook and I won't expect to make a change between now and then to year on that.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Carter Copeland from Barclays.
Hi, good morning, gentlemen. Good morning, Carter. Bob, you seem to have taken a sort of leadership role for the industry in your comments that you've made publicly about sequestration. I'm wondering what sorts of You've been having with Congress about potential possible outcomes and timelines. And I'm wondering if you can sense any sort of incremental change in language or Posture recently that you that's detectable or have we made no progress over the last quarter?
Well, thanks for the question, Carter. I know that many in industry are experiencing exactly what we are right now, Carter, and that I think it's best characterized by a huge amount of uncertainty for a long cycle business like ours to be unable to see 6 months into the future For a pretty dramatic reduction of resources available to our customers is significant and for us unprecedented throughout I think that reaction is similar. I will say, the awareness about the more detailed Aspects of sequestration, I believe, is growing and has grown. And it's important to remember that sequestration is not just A reduction in discretionary defense accounts. It's also a reduction in non defense discretionary accounts, which affect Lots of civil government agencies.
So I believe we're hearing more detailed descriptions From agency heads and leaders in the government about the potential adverse impacts In their ability to meet their mission responsibilities or fulfill their commitments under sequestration. For our part, We are trying to model internally. But to be very candid with you, that model is filled much more with our assumptions About what might happen than any detail specifically given to us about what will happen. The facts are Sequestration is the law. It goes into effect January 2.
It requires $55,000,000,000 in each of defense and non Defense discretionary accounts. Beyond that, we're still struggling with exactly how this will impact our business. We are very concerned about the supply chain, particularly small disadvantaged minority owned businesses at What we regard as the edge of that supply chain. I know we're having discussions here about what kind of business we'll have if we are compelled To implement sequestration. I think they're
asking if they'll even have a business.
Will they have an enterprise? So I think there's Significant shocks to the industrial base. And very honestly, we've simply tried to describe them To our best professional capacity, not to incite any particular level of Overconcerned, but we are very, very concerned about the across the board nature with an automatic trigger and that's what we've tried to voice.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rich Saffron from Buckingham Research.
Hi, good morning.
Good morning, Rich.
Just a question on book to bill. So it was about 0.9 times, A bit less than the one times, but still an improvement versus Q1. I just wanted to gauge the confidence in finishing the year with book to bill of about one times, Maybe highlight some of the contracts you're expecting to book in the second half now. Also, did I hear you say that you thought South Korea would be booked by year end? And is that one of the things that's giving you the confidence?
Hey, Rich, it's Bruce. I'll take that one on.
Hey, Rich, it's Bruce. I'll take that one on. Your assessment of where we are in the Q2 relative to orders is correct. And I'll say probably what's not apparent in just the absolute numbers reported is we are actually ahead of where we thought we'd be at the 2nd quarter this I tried to tee up on the first call that we thought the second quarter would be down a little lower than normal. The results might lead you to believe that that's the case, but that's actually a little better than we expected it to be.
We also mentioned that we thought the 3rd quarter would be A higher rebound than we historically have in years past and we still think that'll be the case. You asked about some of the what are the Contracts we're looking for, most of them frankly are in the category what I would call follow on contracts or contracts to be left with the new fiscal year. So The ones I'm watching to close between now and the end of this year are the F-thirty five ORF-five contract, Getting additional funding in the form of undefinitized contractual action or other means on the LRAP 6 contract. We'd like to close the THAAD, the combined buy of THAAD missiles for both the U. S.
Government as well as the UAE. And we've got a whole slew of new fiscal year contracts that usually pop up in the Q4. Think of that as the fleet ballistic missile and Three contracts that will play there. I think was there a second part of the question there?
Yes. Rich, this is Chris. I had mentioned South Korea There's competition for the F-thirty 5. We were told the down select would be at the end of the year, but the actual contract Would be in the latter part of 2013 at the earliest. So that would not be in our orders of backlog in 2012.
And Rich, I don't think I answered just kind of the last part of your question, which was what's the confidence level we have for sort of ending the year at 1.0. I still think as we sit here today even with all the caveats that we did relative to sequestration and so forth, we thought we've got A fairly good chance of achieving the same level of backlog at the end of this year as we started the beginning of this year.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Nadel from JPMorgan.
Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to dive a little bit into the some of the details on the F-thirty five contract Profit accrual rates. And so Bruce, you gave a good description of what's going on with SDD. Just want to confirm that essentially what you're assuming now is that Your future fees will be about 4% of future revenues because you're pretty much at At the crossover point right now where that's true looking backward.
And then more importantly, over on the LRIP side, which contracts Drove the $20,000,000 risk retirement and where do we stand on specifically on LRIP5?
Thanks Joe for the question. I think you had it assessed pretty right. The change that we talked about, I think it's important to note that obviously you've understand that very clearly. This is only affecting the development contract. The production programs are not impacted by that.
The production programs typically don't have much, If any, award fee, they're typically kind of cost performance driven. And so that's, I'll Different than the rates that are the change that we talked about for the F-thirty five FCD contract. I made the comment that we were booking Higher than 4%, it's a little bit higher than 4% going into this quarter. We came out a little lower than 4%. And that's That's the adjustment that does bring our down if you will below the amount of earned fee that we have at this point in time.
The 2 programs on the production side where we had some performance improvements or booking rate increases This quarter for both Lot 3 and Lot 5. And I think we're as we progress throughout the year, I think I made Comment either last quarter or the quarter before about the number of deliveries and Chris highlighted that as well in his prepared remarks. We're going to finalize deliveries of all the LR2 aircraft, all the LR3 and a pretty good portion of LR4 aircraft this year. So typically as with most production programs that'll give you the offer give us excuse me the opportunity to assess our performance on that and see if it's Coming in line with our expectations and enables additional risk retirements. Let me take one other part of your question there, Joe?
I've lost track what it is to be honest with you. I'll go on to the next caller.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Doug Harned from Sanford Bernstein.
Good morning. Hi, Doug. I wanted to get your thoughts on cost reduction. It's something that you've emphasized quite a bit over the last 6 to 9 months. Can you talk about what you're doing in that area, whether it's overhead reduction, supply chain, facilities?
And are there certain targets you have and certain progress against those? In other words, is there any way to quantify the kinds of actions you're taking?
Yes, Doug, this is Chris. Thanks for the question. We've been focused on the affordability for the last several years and it really is All encompassing, we start with the employees and the leadership team. If you go back a little over a year ago, we had our voluntary Executive separation program where 26% of the leadership team was reduced and that was over 600 people. Of course, there's the slowdown impact of that.
We're looking at the layers. We're looking at the span of control As it relates to the personnel and the organizational structure, and we're continuing to look at How best to organize and you will recall a couple of years ago, we exited the Eagan Minnesota facility. We consolidated WIGO into MS2. All those things are on the table. We've focused quite a bit on facilities and our Actual footprint, we've taken out over 1,500,000 square feet of our facilities both owned and leased.
We have another $2,900,000 to go that we've identified. And obviously, if there are further cuts to the budget, there could be significantly more Reductions. In the supply chain, you mentioned, clearly, that's an area that we focused both internally with Category management, as we call it, consolidating our suppliers and Holding them accountable for the quality and timely delivery. So I see some of these as being shorter term, Some midterm and then of course, we're always looking out on the long term. And you know back in 'six, we replaced Our defined benefit pension plan with defined contribution pension plan and that will, I think position us well for the long term.
So that's just kind of an overview of what we're doing. I think when I last look, you can easily Calculate several $1,000,000,000 of reduction that we benefited from and that we passed on to our customers as a result of these actions.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Arment from Stern AG.
Yes. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Question, I guess either Bob or Chris, really wanted to focus on information systems and our IS and GS. Just regarding, we've seen the most erosion there in terms of the backlog and I get it regarding being impacted by the CR.
But I guess following up on Doug's question in terms of your ability to reduce costs and preserve margins there, you've done a nice job at At 9%, but we're still seeing that's the only segment that's not growing. Can you give
us a little more color
on that? We're hearing about a lot of predatory practices amongst your peers in terms of bidding Contracts pretty aggressively about preserving those margins. Thanks.
Yes, Peter, it's Chris. Thanks for the question. I guess We were very satisfied with our margins in IS and GS this quarter and we seem to have Been able to maintain at or around 9%. Relative to top line growth, you're right. We are experiencing some decline there.
It's not unexpected for the reasons that both Bob and Bruce mentioned and you suggested in your question. We will continue to bid what we think are appropriate business cases for our business. And I must say we've been very successful in winning some significant opportunities of late and the protesting It's continuing probably more so than the predatory bidding practices. So I think we have 3 major wins currently under review that we had previously win. So our strategy is to win all the business We can at the appropriate returns.
We'll let the 100 day protest cycle run out and then We will move forward. So I have very high confidence in our ability to execute on these programs. We're hitting all of our milestones. But as I look forward to additional growth opportunity, we're really focused on cybersecurity. And I mentioned that we won the what was referred to as the DC-three contract.
That was the largest Department of Cyber contract awarded to date. We have numerous engagements with Fortune 100 Corporations And we're also continuing to look in healthcare, IT and the energy lines of business as additional growth areas. So I think we have a good strategy. We're executing on it and I'm optimistic that we'll find a way to grow over the long haul.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Strauss from UBS.
Good morning. Good morning. I guess this is probably a question for Bruce. You obviously benefited from a significant amount of Positive contract adjustments in the quarter. Could you talk about what the guidance for the year assumes for positive adjustments and Which business areas
have the
biggest opportunity for positive adjustments moving forward? Thanks.
Yes. Thanks, David. I think I said At the start, I'll lose track which quarter I made these comments on. But I think I said in the Q1, we were looking at 2012 I have maybe comparable levels of performance improvements is what we saw in 2011. And we actually saw A pretty big increase in those performance improvements, mostly coming in electronic systems in the Q1.
In the Q2, we had some good performance, both particularly in aeronautics and electronic systems, also Space Systems on the Orion program as well as the contractual resolutions that we mentioned that also caused us to come in higher than what we started at Beginning of the year are expected at the beginning of the year. Our expectations for the second half of the year are probably to be down A little bit compared to the second half of twenty eleven. But again, as we get into the quarter and we Do our assessments of where we stand on program performance, that's when we would have unexpected both performance improvements as well as potential Reductions in profit rates. But from a planning perspective, as we sit here today, we expect it to be a little lighter In the second half of the year compared to 2011 and by definition lighter in the second half this year compared to the first half of this year.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Robert Stallard from Royal Bank of Canada.
Good morning.
Good morning. Good morning, Ram. Bruce, just a quick follow-up on the pension. I think previously you said you expected the FASCAS charge Next year, it'd be roughly half what you're booking this year. Has that situation changed given the moving metrics of contributions, interest rates and the new legislation on ERISA contributions?
Yes. We're probably about 6 months before I'd like to be in this conversation, Rob. But definitely, as I said earlier, interest rates are If I was to put a number on them, they're probably down about 75 basis points on a year to date basis. Your guess is probably better than mine at this point as to What they will have or what they will do between now and the end of the year. You're right on the quantification that I've given in the past, all that assumes As I like to call it sort of current course and speed with the same level of discount rate as we ended last year and an 8% return on assets.
Again, as I mentioned in the earlier remarks, I think our asset returns are actually holding pretty steady to that level. But the discount rate if we were to pick it today would be lower than what it was at the end of the year. That would have the tendency to increase FAS, which would make a smaller drop, I still believe it'd be a drop at this point from the FAS CAS adjustment from 2012 to
then comes from the line of George Shapiro from Shapiro
Research. Yes. Good morning. Bruce, if I take a look at the guidance you have for the second half of the year, you're assuming maybe Flattish revenues with the first half and a 10.9% or so margin. I guess that's consistent with David's question About what's embedded in the second half of the year for ECAs.
But my question is that if you go back to last year and your prior years, it's Highly unusual for the second half to have a much lower margin than the first half and yet that's what's being projected. So is there something else that's in there besides the comment about assuming no incremental ECAs?
George, let me try to address a couple of things I think embedded in your question. One is just the second half versus the first half in general and then I'll On the margins, especially, I've taken a look at where we sit today and what our expectations are relative to the a revenue side in the second half of the year, the first of those is again we had 2 commercial satellites in the first half of the year and we're expecting no commercial satellites in the second half. Think of that as Probably a little less than $300,000,000 or so that won't be repeated. Within electronic systems, all 29 of the persistent Threat Detection System or PTID systems that were under contract actually delivered in the first half. So that contract is essentially finished.
There will be no PTID deliveries in the Think of that also as in the $300,000,000 range. So there's sort of $600,000,000 of pressure going from the first half to the second half of the year. We also have in the second half probably 9 to 10 fewer S-sixteen deliveries second half of the year again versus 1st half, but that's probably offset in large part maybe even more so because we expect to have 4 to 5 more C5 deliveries in the second half than the one we had in the first half. So those kind of push probably. I think as I look at the year, it's easier to understand if you sort of do a sequential quarter to quarter, it's easier to understand that.
So We did roughly $23,000,000,000 of revenue in the first half. And I think if you just went to the midpoint in the guidance, it's 45.5. So you can say, if you just double the 23, we're pretty close to the 45.5, but for those two items I mentioned Previously, I think the issue is that the comparison with the second half for twenty eleven is a tough comparison. Both the 3rd and 4th quarter of last year were much higher than the 1st and second quarter of last year. And Just for example, we did $22,000,000,000 roughly into sales in the first half.
We did $24,500,000,000 Roughly in the second half. So obviously, we tremendously outperformed in the second half relative to the first half, whereas 2012, as I said before, is going to be a little In the second half, I also said we might be a little bit conservative as we sit here today with expected continuing resolution in the 4th quarter and the prospects of Sequestration on January 2, but we'll see if that actually changes and we'll update accordingly. Relative to the margins, George, you said we don't have Tennessee to have a lower second half than the first half. And I'll say that's we'll still Trying to make that come true, but we've had again, just taking a look at the increased Profit rate adjustments as well as the contractual resolutions that we had happened in the first half of the year. Our expectations as we Today is that those won't replicate at the same level for the same reason I told David in the second half.
And that's what will drive margins. Again, maybe a little bit conservative on the top It would drive some EBIT, but I don't know if the margins would change all that much from the second half of the year.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Sam Pearlstein from Wells Fargo.
Good morning.
Hi, Sam.
Can you talk a little bit just about some something around the cash flow, which was around the continuing resolution last year? You certainly moved to build cash levels and seeing the buyback activity weaken. I guess the first piece is, are you doing that now? And second piece is, does that have any implications for how we should be thinking about the dividend decision that the Board typically takes in September, Where the last few years we've certainly seen an acceleration from 10% growth to 20% to 30%, how should we be thinking about the appetite for an increase this year going into potentially sequestration and continuing resolution?
Thanks, This is Bruce. I'll try that and Chris or Bob can pile on if they want to. I think as far as cash balances are We probably are going into the second half of the year with a little higher cash balance than we might otherwise have expected. And I think we're trying to be Mindful of what could happen under both the continuing resolution as well as a potential CR. And again, our position is We don't want to induce behaviors that would cause program performance issues, cost growth.
If we can avoid those perhaps with some balance sheet help. And so we're mindful of that. And again, I would think we want to have the flexibility in order to accommodate them. We don't See, as I said earlier, I don't see us backing off the $1,000,000,000 share repurchase. That's still our plan and goal for the year.
Even though we were a little bit lighter in the Q2, I still think we're going to achieve that $1,000,000,000 number. You asked about the dividends in September. We revisit that every year with our Board of Directors. We've had some preliminary conversations with them, but that's a decision that we'll make with our board members and that'd be premature to have that discussion with you right now.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Rob Syngarn from Credit Suisse.
Good morning. Good morning, Rob. Bruce, on Yes. You talked about some of the things that benefited the first half, but that looks like the segment that does retract the most in the second half. Is it are you being a little conservative there?
And then the other thing I was going to ask is really where I think Joe was going before is just the latest on LRIP5. I knew I missed that one. I'll catch that one on this one, Rob, and I apologize for Joe. I realized after I went to the next speaker that I missed that one. So ES, second half, again, the ES, electronic systems is where we have the PTEDs.
Again, we've got about $300,000,000 Headwind because all those units delivered as I said earlier in the first half. I'd like to think Rob that we have A chance to do a little better there. That's yet to play out and we'll watch that closely. I'll say I've been pleasantly surprised by the performance of electronic Systems in both the Q1 and the second quarter, electronic systems Historically and going into the future years always has had our highest international content. I think that there's some still some potential National awards this year that could help us with the sales growth in the second half of the year.
But those as usual are a little harder to predict at this point in time. Are we conservative? I hope so, Rob, and we'll see as that plays out for the second half of the year. LRF5 Negotiations, again, I apologize, Joe. We're continuing the process.
It is a long process. We've been at it now for At least a year and a half. So I'll say I think we're making slow and steady progress. I think both sides I have a desire to get this closed and to get this closed in the not too distant future and we're clearly on that page that we'd like to do that as well. I think we will close in a manner that's beneficial to both parties in the not too distant future.
Now I'll just add on the international And whether these quarters get closed this year or 2013, I personally just Back from a 2 week trip in Maryland Houston and all of our execs have been increasing their international travel to the Far East and the Mideast and there is definitely A concern relative to the threat environment and I believe our portfolio and the interest they have in our fighter aircraft, whether it's the F-thirty 5 or the F-sixteen, The C-one hundred and thirty, everybody loves and of course our missile defense and command and control systems. There is It's a big appetite out there based on the portfolio that we have and I believe we have the experience and the know how and the relationships to do business Internationally and to grow and when they hit the books is to be determined, but I can assure you there's a lot of interest And it's a focus of ours going forward.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Cai von Rumohr from Cowen and Company.
Yes. Thank you. So, Bruce, could you quantify how big were the cum catch Estimate changes in total in the second quarter and kind of what are you looking for, for the full year? And then the notional question that you've been at this 30% more or less level for so long. Is that sustainable in 2013 2014 in this current environment?
Yes. So Kai, I think in the I'll stick with what we have in the release, which says we had about $160,000,000 $170,000,000 in Improvement in our profit rate adjustments this quarter compared to the Q2 of last year. And again, several performance improvements that I've elaborated on already across all four business areas, but Maybe just to reiterate, C-one hundred and thirty International Programs, we had as you might expect because of the end of The PTIS contract, we recognized some performance improvements on that. We also had nice performance on our vertical launch system, kind of electronic systems. We had, as I mentioned earlier, performance improvement because of a risk retirement for a developmental milestone associated with the Orion crew associated with the Orion crew exploration vehicle.
And then on top of that, we had, again, I'll say Unusually high level of contractual resolutions that resolved this quarter. And so that's the one that Is making the numbers probably a little higher than last year's Q2. As far as sustainability, you mentioned the 30%. I still think that we're able to maintain that level. If you look back at our We've done that every year.
I mean, I look at it again from sort of what is in our planning going forward in terms of Planned risk retirements, planned profit rate increases and I'll say they approach that level today and Where we differ from that level is when we have unplanned beneficial improvements above what we already had considered Or when it goes the other way, we have a negative or decremented profit rate adjustment. Thankfully, this year, we've had few of those. Those were offset again Primarily by the contractual resolutions and we were left with the overall performance improvement. So I still see that Trend is what was going to happen the latter half of this year and going into 2013 and for that matter beyond as well.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank.
ULA, you commented in the release that it would pick up the contributions into the second half. Bruce, can you talk about What that's going to look like sequentially into the second half? And also, is that a headwind into 2013? And then to squeeze another one in, the Pullback in rates, the disconnect now that exists between CAS and ERISA and FAS, do you think mark to market Approach on pension expenses is making more sense given all the changes that have happened over the last 6 months.
Thanks, Kai. You got both ends of the spectrum was your question there. I'm going to try to address I'm sorry, I think it's Miles. I'm sorry, I know it's Okay.
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make it called worse. Sorry about that. So, yes, I did Trying to write some comments in my prepared remarks about ULA and USA relative to the equity earnings we're expecting. We had a little lower equity earnings in the 2nd quarter, as I said, mostly because of timing issues and There was actually a nice performance improvement out of our ULA operation last quarter that wasn't replicated this quarter, which made that comparison year A year a little more difficult, but this quarter had just lower earnings based on the launch vehicles and the like in the second quarter. We do expect a fairly significantly higher second half of the year relative to the equity earnings, with most of that Coming in the Q3, you didn't mention USA, but we're also expecting sort of with The close out of the United States Alliance activity to have an additional improvement relative to that equity earnings Higher than what we've experienced in the first half of this year.
So both of those are going to cause, I'll see a little spike in the Q3 and then we'll come back down in the Q4, but Again, collectively higher in the second half than the first half. You asked about going forward and I'll say, we lose that spike Relative to the USA going into 2013 and beyond, but what we're seeing within the Space Systems Company and I've said this on a couple of occasions is We're getting finished with a number of developmental parts of programs such as the Muos contract, The SBIRS contract and some others and we're getting into sort of the sweet spot of production vehicles for all of those And we're doing very well on those. And that performance on the production coming out of the development that as you can expect, the margin improvements Appreciate with that, are helping to mitigate the downward pressure resulting from the lower equity earnings next year, Such that I don't expect a large change in the margins to occur because of that lower equity amount. CAS and Arista and a lot of moving pieces that you Tries there and mark to market. We've looked at that multiple times.
I'm not sure this is why I think I keep preaching that You've got to look through the accounting and get to the economics of it. And frankly, I personally favor sort of we all get on the same page there. But I don't know that I see a change on the horizon for us to get to mark to market as a company.
Karen, this is Jerry. I think we're coming up on the air. Maybe one more question in the queue.
Certainly, sir, our final question for today comes from the line of Howard Ruble from Jefferies.
Thank you very much. Sort of related to what you've talked about in Space and then one other thing. In Space, you've made some management reorganizations and you could address what that Does also in terms of taking out costs. And then can you reconcile, Bob, you alluded to it that You've had some great performance metrics on the F-thirty 5 and yet you're not getting, I guess compensated for it. Okay, Howard, it's Chris.
Let me take the space question. As I mentioned in an earlier Yes, sir. We are constantly looking at our organizational structure and looking how best to streamline and And consolidate and get synergies both from a revenue and a cost side. What we basically did there was flatten the organization And I think we went from about 7 or 8 lines of business directly reporting in to our EVP to 4 or 5. The goal there was to reduce the overhead and the infrastructure to support the businesses and we also appointed a Deputy Rick Ambrose, Long time executive with the corporation to help Joanne as we focus on the strategy and the execution.
So The overall goal there was better alignment with the customer and cost savings. And I guess I'll Turn it over to Bob here for the F-thirty five and the wrap up. Yes. Thanks, Chris and Howard. Thanks for the question.
So relative to the 35 and our earning potential. What we all recognize and you all recognize, this is a complex demanding Program, really a one of a kind type program that is unfolding in an increasingly tough environment. So we're held to very High standards and we expect to be held to high standards. We look back at the last 18 months performance and found it We're ahead of our planning. I think we're meeting our marks.
There's much more to go. So we're very realistic About the overall performance. Bruce's comments about the system design and development phase, I think reflect the reality that we're looking at. But increasingly, our earnings potential will be defined by our ability to produce and deliver the production aircraft lot over lot, and we're very focused On achieving that goal because that's what's going to give our customers the force structure and the capacity that they need that they expect from us. So All of us are very focused on the entire F-thirty five program.
We've tried to give the best balanced assessment and accounting of How we expect to earn profit? I will tell you, we do expect to earn profit. We think when we deliver high quality products, That is an appropriate economic response so that we can share in the value of that performance with the investors in the company. So For all of us, we thank you for your time on the call today. We appreciate the questions.
Thought they were challenging and good and really insightful about our business. I'll tell you, we're all very pleased That the company has remained strong and focused in a really challenging environment. We think that's great credit to the women and men who work here. They exhibit great dedication on a daily basis We have a really strong portfolio. Chris mentioned his international travel along with our other executives where We believe we're well aligned with both global and domestic defense and security priorities.
Our backlog, our cash resources, the financial strength of our company provide, we think, a degree of certainty in an Certain environment as we look to deliver increasing value to shareholders and to customers, and we'll stay very focused on high levels of discipline. And as Bruce said, we'll update you as soon as we possibly can as to these changes in our environment and what they might mean to us. So Karen, thank you for your help on the call today. Thank you all for participating and we'll sign off here.
Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference.